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The disc contained an Education Department report called "Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities," published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.
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Oh shut up glass. You know damn well WE are not creating terrorists. I know this is hard to grasp but our actions are not making our enemy happy... Yes I know.. shocking. We are not trying to make our enemy happy... yes, again... shocking. Glass, I have one question for you. Would you want to fight terrorists in Iraq or in the US?
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DQR, the terrorists in Iraq are being NEGOTIATED with right now..splain dat one....
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i wish you wouldn't imply that i am weak on terorism DQR.... this is a guerrilla war.... the keys to success lie in each and every one of US.....
this is a war for hearts and minds, and we have already let the genie out of the bottle....
Bush has proven that he has no clue.....you think i am happy about this stuff??? it's making me sick.....
did you know Britain tried to colonise Afghanistan awhile back?????
didn't work out too good......and Britain was the best there's ever been at this game...
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i wish you wouldn't imply that i am weak on terorism DQR.... this is a guerrilla war.... the keys to success lie in each and every one of US.....
this is a war for hearts and minds, and we have already let the genie out of the bottle....
Bush has proven that he has no clue.....you think i am happy about this stuff??? it's making me sick.....
did you know Britain tried to colonise Afghanistan awhile back?????
didn't work out too good......and Britain was the best there's ever been at this game...
Glass, YOU have proven by your own words that you are weak on terrorism. You have proven you are weak on national security. You have proven you are a fiscal socialist. I have merely pointed these things out. I have implied nothing... Flat out told... I have.
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Oh yeah, and it's really a toss up between Britain and France for best colonizer award. Thinking maybe Britain edges them out a little, but the margin is close.
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you might like these books DQR... i have read most of them, and intend to read all of them eventually...
it's the Sharpe's series by Bernard Cornwell.
gives a fictional account of a single British soldier's view of the Napoleonic wars. fiction with historical accuracy... makes no judgement about the human condition but displays it pretty well...
there was some TV made from it, but the books are much better...
quote:Originally posted by glassman: you might like these books DQR... i have read most of them, and intend to read all of them eventually...
it's the Sharpe's series by Bernard Cornwell.
gives a fictional account of a single British soldier's view of the Napoleonic wars. fiction with historical accuracy... makes no judgement about the human condition but displays it pretty well...
there was some TV made from it, but the books are much better...
Sounds interesting. LOL, I'm not reading them if they turn me into a commie like you though.
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there you go with the commie stuff again... LOL
Sharpe, the main character is the ******* son of a whore, who, by acts of intelligence and bravery on the battefeilds earns a commission from the ranks of the enlisted. By using common sense he snatches dozens of victories from the mouthes of defeat and never get's the recognition he deserves...
pretty much real life in the military...throughout history.... until Aug 6th 1945...that really changed the way we have to fight war....
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sorry, i didn't think of the need to ***** that one. his mom and dad weren't married...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: the news the last week seems to be one major bombing after another....
it's just proof that the war on terrorism is NOT working...
we needed cooperation, and didn't get it...
i guess it's everybody elses fault....
Bush isn't to blame..he's just the only one who did everything right --according to him...
I don't know how your thinking works, but here it goes. Bush and the world agreed that Sadam needed to be ousted. Were there terrorist ties to Iraq, without a doubt. Do some DD. Bombings, yes, why? well how about for the first time ever this country is going to have democratic elections. And not the kind that 100% of the peole vote for one sadistic murderous leader (laff). They (the terrorirst) are out of power and on the run, I would kill inocent civilians as well if I were them, But I have morals and believe in democracy. The war is working, the war has been working, and it will see this through. People are getting hurt, I dont like it anymore than the next person. But when you go into a country and help free it, people are going to get hurt. The world agreed that this needed to be done, then when the came, some backed down. They did not have the foresight to see somethign so important through. France for example, was laying 35 million dollars of fiber-optic cable through iraq ( I think against UN santions) before the war. So for them going there made no sense. They will not go there under any circumstances or any leadership. Also why make more problems helping to free muslim people from leaders who opress them? Why you might ask? well france wants to opress them, in fact they have taken away some of the religous rights of those people in their own country. This war is just, this war is right, and this war will be finished one way or another. This is not so much about attacking on person or people, its about changing the "mind-set" of groups of people. For the first time, in their lives they will have the freedom to make their own decisions. And I applaud our President in taking the steps to secure our countries long term saftey.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: By using common sense he snatches dozens of victories from the mouthes of defeat and never get's the recognition he deserves...
pretty much real life in the military...throughout history....
It is funny that the one thing all commies have in common is their obscene reliance on pessimism.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: futuresobjective.... there is one minor flaw to your argument ...
Saddam was NOT a MUSLIM leader....
this one of the key pivot points that UNHINGES the PROPAGANDA campaign......
you see Saddam HATED the muslim clerics and was MUCH harder on them than we are prepared to be.....
he was actually an ally on that point....SICK, i know, but true....
now we are NEGOTIATING with Al-sadr....a terrorist Muslim cleric, still think we are winning????
furthermore the DEMOCRACIES that are being set up have no relationship to OUR democracies, other than in NAME....
being the optimist that i am, i hope they succeed, but watch to see how they function...it will not be what you are being told is going to happen..
Optimist? Just a quick quiz to justify your proclamation. How's the economy? How's the war on terror going? Who are you voting for? Are you sad? Have you ever watched the lifetime channel without a gun to your head?
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As one thinketh, one is. All of life is created. America is as it is die to the whole. We all create america and by us doing what we are doing we are fueling the creation of more terrorists.
And in addition, by bush constantly sayin, better there than here invites terror here.
The genie has been set loose but hope remains. Every moment is creation so we can create diffrently if we choose to.
We need a plan to win in Iraq. That the first agenda in this war. and how best to win. What is it we want there?
Who are we to say what is best there? How about we focus on America and self defend?
Saddam didnt do 911. Our main target should of been al qaeda. But instead we went to iraq and made the world a scarier place.
But, there is hope and dont be fooled that what we get here is our creatuion.
It dumfounds me that the bush admin dont get it - by us doing what we are we are creating more terrorists and fueling the fire And again by saying better there then here invites them even more to come here. Psychology. i got 2 young ones - teel them what they can not do and they are determined to do it.
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Dont put words in my mouth. I find We went to war for the wrong reasons and now we as a nation have got to make the right choices.
I disagree with your thinking but you are childish (remove think from your name). I have a right to my opinion and because you are childish I no longer will respond to you. I can discuss with folks but when you got to personally attack, it tells me your thinking is negative, not mine.
I care about this nation and YES we are at war at the expense of America. I want my children to have a nation, a nation that is at peace not WAR.
if i refuse to bury my head in the sand, that makes me courageous.....
heck no, i'm not happy....only the devil himself is happy right now....
i am willing to try to sort out the hard questions.....
Kenneth Lay had access to the Clinton White House too.... and i have found some very disturbing facts underlying why ENRON really went bankrupt..... it's sickening..... am i whining about it? no.... do you think i am getting some perverse joy posting all this stuff?? no....
if you read thru my posts you will find that my goals have been to TRY to peirce the spin....
i am just doing what i a can.... which isn't much, i agree...
the internet is changing the world... i suspect that without people logging on and raising these issues, we would have had a very different campaign here.....
last spring, i posted clearly that i thought it would be a mistake for Bush to campaign on terrorism... i stated why too....they didn't listen... they campaigned on terrorism......
now they are paying the price....Bush has this tendancy to go against the prevailing common sense view..not my fault.....
Bush failed to win the popular vote in 2000, he has behaved as though he won by a landslide.... big mistake..just reality, not my opinion...
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Popular vote means nothing in a republic. This is a republic in which we live. Bush has campaigned on terrorism because it is the most important threat to this nation at the moment. He is the man for the job. Kerry has a history of voting against what the millitary needs to be victorious. Kerry has a history of aiding any enemy this country has ever faced. Kerry has all the will power of a jellyfish.
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quote:Originally posted by thinkmoney: Dont put words in my mouth. I find We went to war for the wrong reasons and now we as a nation have got to make the right choices.
I disagree with your thinking but you are childish (remove think from your name). I have a right to my opinion and because you are childish I no longer will respond to you. I can discuss with folks but when you got to personally attack, it tells me your thinking is negative, not mine.
I care about this nation and YES we are at war at the expense of America. I want my children to have a nation, a nation that is at peace not WAR.
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I am not childish.. I am witty beyond compare. You are right, you have a right to your opinion... you even have the right to proclaim that opinion as loudly as you wish... but it doesn't mean you are right. I am betting Kleenex sends you monthly thank you letters for your business.
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quote:Originally posted by keithsan: LOL-thanks DQR, i needed a day off from arguing with glass
Sorry I have taken the last couple months off... had more pressing issues to deal with. Noticed you have been holding your own with his public refusal to accept reality.
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quote:Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco: Popular vote means nothing in a republic. This is a republic in which we live. Bush has campaigned on terrorism because it is the most important threat to this nation at the moment. He is the man for the job. Kerry has a history of voting against what the millitary needs to be victorious. Kerry has a history of aiding any enemy this country has ever faced. Kerry has all the will power of a jellyfish.
DQR, you know as well as i do that the budget surplus, and the booming economy in the second Clinton Admin was direct result of the (what did they call it? i can't think of it, maybe a 'boro would help...LOL not....) the end of the cold war...Dems and GOP's argued over who's bases would get closed so on and so-forth...neither party is responsible for the cuts in MIL spending..they both were....Cheney cut just as hard as Kerry and if Bush were Senator he would have too..the biggest arguments were over which states would lose the bases....and you know it...
Bush's campaign on terrorism was a BIG mistake...he went to NYC so we would remeber he was in CHARGE when we got hit....
funny how he managed to dodge the bullet on his CULPABILITY there too. cuz the intel community DID give him warnings... 911 commission covered that too....
Bush spent his energy looking to revive the cold war stuff anti-missile sytems more nukes, etc....... Dr. C. Rice is a Russia expert, not a mid-east expert...
POPULAR VOTE.....hmmmmm i don't really want to get too deep into this...because the more you know about that, the more you DON'T want to know.....i am a republican and i won't be changing because of Bush... i was pretty ticked at Gore... he undermined public confidence pretty badly, and IMO started the bursting of the market bubble... that said, he could have triggered a constitutional crisis that we would still be reeling from, had he so chosen... it might happen this time, and i suspect Bush would be willing to do what Gore was not.... he has shown willingness to "do the right thing, no matter what"
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: DQR, you know as well as i do that the budget surplus, and the booming economy in the second Clinton Admin was direct result of the (what did they call it? i can't think of it, maybe a 'boro would help...LOL not....) the end of the cold war...Dems and GOP's argued over who's bases would get closed so on and so-forth...neither party is responsible for the cuts in MIL spending..they both were....Cheney cut just as hard as Kerry and if Bush were Senator he would have too..the biggest arguments were over which states would lose the bases....and you know it...
Bush's campaign on terrorism was a BIG mistake...he went to NYC so we would remeber he was in CHARGE when we got hit....
funny how he managed to dodge the bullet on his CULPABILITY there too. cuz the intel community DID give him warnings... 911 commission covered that too....
Bush spent his energy looking to revive the cold war stuff anti-missile sytems more nukes, etc....... Dr. C. Rice is a Russia expert, not a mid-east expert...
There was never a budget surplus. There was the projection that we would have a surplus if 9/11 never happened and we did not engage in a global war. You are grasping at frayed straws to avoid your impending fall. You are right in that there was a plan in place to reduce our millitary build up if and when we felt we won the cold war. We have (for the most part) won the cold war. Those plans were set in place and our millitary has moved from active force to reserve force. None of this explains or gives excuse for Effin Kerry's voting record.
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President Clinton announces another record budget surplus From CNN White House Correspondent Kelly Wallace
September 27, 2000 Web posted at: 4:51 p.m. EDT (2051 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year's record surplus of $122.7 billion.
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4. The Budget Surplus and Fiscal Discipline In 1998, the Federal budget reported its first surplus ($69 billion) since 1969. In 1999, the surplus nearly doubled to $125 billion, and then again in 2000 to $236 billion. As a result of these surpluses, Federal debt held by the public has been reduced from $3.8 trillion at the end of 1997 to $3.4 trillion at the end of 2000 and to an estimated $3.2 trillion in 2001. With continued prudent fiscal policies, the budget can remain in surplus for many years. Under the President's budget proposals, $2.0 trillion in Federal debt held by the public will be retired over the next 10 years—all of the debt that can responsibly be retired http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2002/guide04.html
quote:Originally posted by glassman: [b] 4. The Budget Surplus and Fiscal Discipline In 1998, the Federal budget reported its first surplus ($69 billion) since 1969. In 1999, the surplus nearly doubled to $125 billion, and then again in 2000 to $236 billion. As a result of these surpluses, Federal debt held by the public has been reduced from $3.8 trillion at the end of 1997 to $3.4 trillion at the end of 2000 and to an estimated $3.2 trillion in 2001. With continued prudent fiscal policies, the budget can remain in surplus for many years. Under the President's budget proposals, $2.0 trillion in Federal debt held by the public will be retired over the next 10 years—all of the debt that can responsibly be retired http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2002/guide04.html
is this enough? or do you want more?[/B]
Yeah OK there was a surplus. I have two words to explain it. Dot Com
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this is probly a good time to bring up a personal sperience.....
we were living in So Cal in 2000, 2001....
we were involved in a genomics project...
we were invited by the State to apply for a 100 million$ grant... cuz CA had several hundred million$ of surplus budget...
it disappeared OVERNIGHT...to ENRON et. al. cuz of the electricity crisis.... oh yeah the FAKE crisis that happened AFTER the White HOuse Energy Policy initiative....
HMMMMMM.... and CA had JUST passed a law requiring 5% of the cars available for sale to be ELECTRIC, and those cars are NICE....
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