link to old thread what's the new? did i miss something??
Posted by MTPromises on :
BB, Bob wanted us to start a new thread.
Posted by MTPromises on :
oh, and btw, thank you glassman and tex for the posts last night - very informative. I can't say that I completely understand all the scenarios that can play out through using PIPEs but I know more than I did before.
Also, I'm not sure I'm clear about the theory about the loan and their actions being intentional and the possibility of this being a "well thought out" endeavor. My main question would be "is this good for us or bad for us?" I know 10 mentioned that it looked good - but I'm not following why.
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
Heh, i step away for a good night of sleep and what happens here?!?! Posted by MTPromises on :
premarket 4 x 1.04 2 x 1.05 3 x 1.09
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Alright, MT is ready to jamb today it looks like to me! ha ha ~
Good Morning All ~
Posted by DMOST on :
Still holding strong and long. I've been in this sense avrg. buys .08, so its all profit and found monies. However I would admit that I would like this to move on to the next stage. Still hanging and swanging waiting for the ranging.
"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY, YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE" Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't want a new thread... happy feeling returning... well it is shorter, I mean we were over 200 pages... Ok all better. Morning All. Posted by Peaser on :
S t o c k l e m o n updated their site Aug 2.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Peaser: S t o c k l e m o n updated their site Aug 2.
Oh Nooo! The dreaded lemon!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by Peaser: S t o c k l e m o n updated their site Aug 2.
Oh Nooo! The dreaded lemon!
Well as we have stated before... a 10K would clear this up. Rufas where is the 10K?
Posted by djg7 on :
Falling premarket 1.02 x .975.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
why is the bid staying above the ask?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning! I hope the other FHAL thread doesn't drift too far in case we need it. I quoted 2nd hand info on the possible new symbol to be used today.
Someone on ihub quoted someone on fhalboard. com who said they talked to Rufus. We'll see! Too much speculation lately but, as we have seen before, some of this pans out.
GLTA!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh it is gonna fall hard if these bashers have free reign on a Friday with no PR of filing. People are going to get scared right out of their shares.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
whats everyone doing here? holding or selling or buying more? I'll be holding throughout the whole transactions and I will take a lesson from this adventure.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am holding, but it is going to be a scary day. Bashers won the night and early AM it seems.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Everyone should read the last 2-3 pages of info...there was some information on the last thread that MIGHT be worth reading...start on about page 230...GLTA!
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
Im holding as well, but also worried about the bashing that will take place today.
The theory that rattled us all last night is just that, a theory. But, its a feasible enough theory to cause massive confusion today. This morning would be a good time for an official update but im not holding my breath. It doesnt have to be a 10k, just a tid bit of info whats going on. Rufus? Hello?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Why did we move over to this thread anyway? I know someone asked... But someone does that every week and we never have... why on page 232?
Posted by Stock on :
the more the ceo delays the transaction or even keep us uninformed ( he could have at least put out a PR saying why they are late ), the more he keeps promising things and not doing them on date, the the less credibility this whole company has, the more the price will drop each day till it tanks at some point. He needs to get this together, at least a PR...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This is getting frustrating as everyone knows. A little info could go along way
Posted by cassity on :
I'm not worried about this. My brother who is a fellow shareholder in FHAL, gave me some really positive news yesterday(that I know is true). I will speak to him and see if he wants me to post it. No worries. Do your own DD.
Posted by cassity on :
By the way, it's not the companies fault, that things have been delayed.
Posted by Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: By the way, it's not the companies fault, that things have been delayed.
they can always say WHY they are late in one single short PR to confort the shareholders and gain more trust...
Posted by cassity on :
They already have. Ticker PROBLEMS.
Posted by Sandusky on :
Let it tank...been there done that. It will recover if all is still progressing (even if later than we thought). Either way this guy Rufus has some great big giant marbles. No turning back now for me.
Posted by MTPromises on :
the orders are flyin'!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: whats everyone doing here? holding or selling or buying more? I'll be holding throughout the whole transactions and I will take a lesson from this adventure.
I'm holding! 1-day doesn't scare me out! I finally learned that...
PATIENCE!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning all!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: the orders are flyin'!
Yeah...but look at the volume...nor reason tohave fallen this much...
Posted by luvforever on :
Hmmm.... Everyone found their way to the new thread! LOL Good morning...Also american bull says sell (hmmm,what to do?) I'm just holding and holding. How bout you? LOL This really ought to get exciting soon, I know we miss all of that but hopefully it all comes together... Smile
Posted by lostone on :
did i miss something? was there bad news?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
no news.
Posted by luvforever on :
If going down isn't? LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I hate coincidences but according to OTCBB BBANE symbol was deleted this morning.
what does it mean when two orders go through at the same time but different prices? At 9:37:53 an order went through at the bid of 0.931 for 2919 shares. An order also went through at the exact same time and shares between the bid/ask of 0.94.
Posted by milliam on :
You don't really think that means anything do you Tax?
Posted by vinnie1 on :
anyone know if this lemon crap is true?
Posted by Hannibull on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: what does it mean when two orders go through at the same time but different prices? At 9:37:53 an order went through at the bid of 0.931 for 2919 shares. An order also went through at the exact same time and shares between the bid/ask of 0.94.
that's called a mirror trade, some say that's MM manipulation to drive a stock down
Posted by 10of13 on :
MT...it could be just that they "averaged an order"
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
No just odd I stumbled on to it this morning. I only posted it to see if anyone else thought more of it.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I hate coincidences but according to OTCBB BBANE symbol was deleted this morning.
Wasn't that the company that "took Rufas" to court to have him removed as CEO?
Yea, thats the one. Odd coincidence for sure
Posted by RyanPBF on :
if this thing follows it's pattern for the past couple of days we open at HOD and never see it again that day get close but don't hit it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by vinnie1: anyone know if this lemon crap is true?
Just posting a bunch of stuff questioning what is supposed to be in the upcomming 10K filing. If it's true we will never see a 10K. If it is false we will see it in the 10K and de lemon can eat my shorts, and go to jail. I am tempted to sell a single share this morning just so I can join the class action.
TB
Posted by CRab on :
Morning everyone...
Don't join the class action! Didn't you read the lemon sucker website! You'll have to pay for his legal fees!
hehe...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Looks like we could test those lower support levels I was talkin about yesterday..
.80 is top dog... pretty solid..if breached, we could dip below .60 like in the .54 - .55 area today...that level gets higher as time passes..same with the .80 level
Posted by maumee river rat on :
if it does blow thru th .80 line.....I'm outta here
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: Morning everyone...
Don't join the class action! Didn't you read the lemon sucker website! You'll have to pay for his legal fees!
hehe...
Like he could find a lawyer to take that case. Sadam's lawyer is too busy right now and all the rest of the lawyers out there that like to protect scumbags who steal from innocent share holders are still busy defending Enron.
A 10K is alllll weeee neeeed Rufas...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: if it does blow thru th .80 line.....I'm outta here
Is this just a prediction? looking pretty stable right now at.93 with little or no volume. You expecting a break?
Posted by dog on :
I may not sit and watch... gets me too emotional along with the rest who are looking to dump.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hope not Tax!!! I just don't really like what I'm seein' on the longer term charts...It can hit .80 without losing any integrity..IMO In fact, it may be healthy... Below that, I will have to think again...
Posted by luvforever on :
I was assuming charts don't mean a lot with this situation nor am. bulls etc. Don't you all agree? Posted by 10of13 on :
It makes no sence to me why these are "buys" comin' in and yet it won't move...this morning fell like crazy on little volume...
Posted by dog on :
Anyone call Rufus yet?
Posted by Vin on :
Hey all. Post number one for me. Have been following a number of threads here, but this one has GOT to be the most interesting one around. VERY new to this stuff, but am learning a ton from your comments. I'm in light at .78, so this is more just a learning experience for me. Trying to focus on my own DD (takes a while to really understand and apply what you're reading), but I'll get there at some point. Just wanted to say hey, and wish ya'll the best on this thing.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Hope not Tax!!! I just don't really like what I'm seein' on the longer term charts...It can hit .80 without losing any integrity..IMO In fact, it may be healthy... Below that, I will have to think again...
Geez I leave for a minute and you guys let the stock drop? Who'z azz do I kick! lol ~
Hey... "BOTTOM LINE" If we still have a good deal here (10k would PROVE that) then why all the glum? When this goes through it doesn't matter WHERE the price is at am I correct?!!
So as lemon head and the gang do their deal let us keep our heads. This is still the same deal, the same stock is it not?...
This storm like all the others will pass. Try to get pass looking at the price...
-And I'm not seeing ANYTHING that suggests that we are going to plunge in my charts, everything is holding and the market is holding too, LOW VOLUME! -that should tell you everything you need to know!
Chill out, let's get through the day
Until there is REASON to believe otherwise. I'M LONG STILL, No reason not to be, even with no 10k because we have heard of the problems they are having. IMO we'll be fine, and yes I agree, some kind of PR update would be nice Rufus buddy old pal....
Posted by cassity on :
Brother told me that he called OTCBB yesterday, and there was a problem with the cussip and ticker symbol(just like the company said). They said that they are working on it, but it was a real problem. It should be fixed soon(couple of days) so just RELAX. Things come up that the company can't control(part of business). In my opinion, I think Rufus wants to release PR's after ticker change to sustain PPS at or above $15. If you can't relax, please sell so you have peace of mind. JMO
Posted by RyanPBF on :
anyone else see a hod of 1.01 out of nowhere. I didn't sell a buy at that price
Posted by 10of13 on :
Welcome Aboard Vin!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Hey all. Post number one for me. Have been following a number of threads here, but this one has GOT to be the most interesting one around. VERY new to this stuff, but am learning a ton from your comments. I'm in light at .78, so this is more just a learning experience for me. Trying to focus on my own DD (takes a while to really understand and apply what you're reading), but I'll get there at some point. Just wanted to say hey, and wish ya'll the best on this thing.
RUN AWAY!!!!!
Don't do it!!!!!
It will ruin your life!!!!!
have fun Vin..
Posted by dog on :
I agree.. am I'm not just being obstinate... what does everything point too? Just cuz timeline off and confidence drops. It could only take 10 or less trdes to drop it to 80... doesn't change anything, unless you think the PPS accurately delineates the value of the company ( which is like .08 BTW). 1oK is the only thing that matters.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Welcome Aboard Vin!
Hey Vin Posted by 10of13 on :
Cassity..that was also on the old thread..just more verification of the truth! Thanks!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by vinnie1: anyone know if this lemon crap is true?
Just posting a bunch of stuff questioning what is supposed to be in the upcomming 10K filing. If it's true we will never see a 10K. If it is false we will see it in the 10K and de lemon can eat my shorts, and go to jail. I am tempted to sell a single share this morning just so I can join the class action.
TB
Tax, I thought I read that if the report caused you to trade or even swayed you not to trade you could join the suit. Didn't need to take action but if the article changed your thought process at all to where you didn't do something, that was enough.
Maybe I should join the suit only because I think that I thought something that wasn't. Or was it?
Posted by luvforever on :
Ok folks, I'm gonna take a lil nap...Wake me if anything exciting happens tia Posted by cool AZ on :
Hey Vin, pay attention now, you may make some good money! Welcome!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Looks to me that this is a very big attempt by the ole MM's to sart a panic shake...Don't think it worked out as planned...yet..
looks like someone wanted to fill that gap a little too.
Easier to bring it down without that gap overhead..they are a bit like a magnet sometimes..
Just thinkin out loud...this is gettin more strange every day..
Posted by unclerudy on :
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: anyone else see a hod of 1.01 out of nowhere. I didn't sell a buy at that price
yes. for 500 shares. but my L2 shows it as a conditioned trade (and I don't know what that means)
Posted by portman on :
Welcome Vin!
Posted by vinnie1 on :
Hmmmmmmmm lets roll i can use the money
Posted by unclerudy on :
From IHUB...
Posted by: Valis In reply to: None Date:8/4/2006 10:39:49 AM Post #of 29654
*** CUSIP UPDATE ***
The new CUSIP will be 21254V100
The S&P rep stated that there was confusion as to who the surviving entity was goign to be, fronthaul or conversion solutions, but that it was cleared up and Conversion SOlutions Holding Corp is the survivor.With this new CUSIP he doesn't see a problem with gettin the new ticker symbol and having trading begin (of course that's a generalization).
Posted by portman on :
I am just checking in periodically. Cassity's info does not surprise me. Nor does the delay with a lack of verifiable contradictory information. If the stock moves based on activity into the range of MRR's charting levels I will simply buy more if DD remains unchanged.
Posted by MTPromises on :
so, even though it's stated in the 8-k and reverse mergers are nothing new, there was confusion about who the surviving entity was going to be???? Unbelievable.
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: From IHUB...
Posted by: Valis In reply to: None Date:8/4/2006 10:39:49 AM Post #of 29654
*** CUSIP UPDATE ***
The new CUSIP will be 21254V100
The S&P rep stated that there was confusion as to who the surviving entity was goign to be, fronthaul or conversion solutions, but that it was cleared up and Conversion SOlutions Holding Corp is the survivor.With this new CUSIP he doesn't see a problem with gettin the new ticker symbol and having trading begin (of course that's a generalization).
Well hold the fort... I'll be back later Posted by unclerudy on :
Oops... Forgot to post the link. Thanks for CMA with it.
Posted by milliam on :
Well, no new cusip number shown on the streaming banner over at www.cusip.com .
Thanks Sceptor for the page.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Well hold the fort... I'll be back later
NO!!!! You gotta stay right here with the rest of us... No time for part time stupidity here,,,All or nothin buddy!!!
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
In theory i think this CUSIP fix could very well put us into a position of halting today. Now they have the go to switch the symbol so....any other hold ups? I hope not.
This is all IMO of course.
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
Actually Conversions Solutions Holdings Corp JUST went across on the streaming banner!!!
Anyone else catch that?
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: Actually Conversions Solutions Holdings Corp JUST went across on the streaming banner!!!
Anyone else catch that?
I just saw it, also.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I am just checking in periodically. Cassity's info does not surprise me. Nor does the delay with a lack of verifiable contradictory information. If the stock moves based on activity into the range of MRR's charting levels I will simply buy more if DD remains unchanged.
Yup!!!
Don't know if it will dip that far.....Just sayen I can see how it could...
I am cool with what I see so far..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: Actually Conversions Solutions Holdings Corp JUST went across on the streaming banner!!!
Anyone else catch that?
Nope!! But this is a good thing, Eh??
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
Yea, i believe so. Im pretty sure that this means they can activate the new symbol now....someone please correct me if im wrong?
Its on the banner right after "Cook school...blah blah". It only takes a minute or two to make the round trip through the straemer. http://www.cusip.com/ Posted by CRab on :
Over on IHub there is actually some good info regarding the CUSIP numbers and proof that they actually had the new fronthaul number then got this one...
apparently they are issued to the companies in alphabetical order and all the numbers lined up...
although since you guys posted the Cusip flashed across the screen this is all kinda moot...
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
Heh, and with that news the pps drops. Nothing new LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
No panic here... I think that was a feeble shake attempt. Reading last night before Glass and Tex I really felt we would see .53 this morning. Glad to see the shake was not significant and our little stock have a backbone of strong handed investors.
Thanks for the brother report Cass, if you can’t trust family who can you trust. I just like the fact that it is coming from OTCBB. Third party confirmation is always a plus.
If what StockStar said is true then I am real happy, because I now don’t have to sell my one share to get some fresh squeezed lemon juice. (Not to mention it would have been a pain breaking up my blocks) Yep, now I can say that I never believe anything that comes from da’ lemon and by him posting word one about this stock I was forced to buy, or even worse think about buying more share!!! I think today’s posting has caused me to consider going Long!!! Definitely longer than I already was.
The saying still stands... I got a vice grip on my slips.
TB
Posted by unclerudy on :
Quick question about CUSIP... Are they printed on the certs? What happens to those people who have requested the hard certs when they change the CUSIP? Or is there no effect on the stock like that?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
FYI: If I can buy 201 shares of PAIV and commission for 20 bucks yesterday and sell for a profit of $707.50 today then I can damn well dream about FHAL and $15 bucks a share.
And I did this with three different accounts but will now wait for $12 the rest of my 200 shares.
NEW CUSIP NUMBERS ASSIGNED TODAY: CASEY CNTY BK INC LIBERTY KY...ANCHORAGE ALASKA...ADVISORS INNER CIRCLE FD...COOK CNTY ILL CMNTY CONS SCH DIST NO 118 PALOS...CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HLDGS CORP...FLAGSHIP CLO V LTD / FLAGSHIP CLO V CORP...TORNILLO TEX INDPT SCH DIST...FLAGSHIP CLO V LTD...FT...NATIONAL BK S C SUMTER...HORIZON BK OSKALOOSA IOWA...NEW HOLSTEIN WIS ELEC SYS REV...LASALLE BK N A CHICAGO ILL...WRENSHALL MINN INDPT SCH DIST NO 100...LASALLE BK MIDWEST NATL ASSN TROY MICH...UPSALA MINN INDPT SCH DIST NO 487...CLEARY CAP LLC...POWERSHARES DB COMMODITY INDEX TRACKING FD...STERLING HEIGHTS MICH...HSBC BK CDA...DUBLIN OHIO CITY SCH DIST...G-FORCE CDO 2006-I LTD / G-FORCE CDO 2006-1 CORP...STANDARD BK & TR CO HICKORY HILLS ILL...UBS AG JERSEY BRH...G-FORCE CDO 2006-1 LTD -144A...KENTUCKY HSG CORP SINGLE FAMILY MTG REV...MARYLAND ST CMNTY DEV ADMIN DEPT HSG & CMNTY DEV...BILLINGS MONT SPL ASSMT...TOBACCO SETTLEMENT FING CORP N Y REV...HOUSTON TEX WTR & SWR SYS REV...G-FORCE CDO 2006-1 LTD / G-FORCE CDO 2006-1 CORP...HSBC INV FDS...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nice catch Cat... I have been watching this site pretty closely for this change.
Posted by milliam on :
I see it now on the banner...turns out you have to refresh the screen DOH!!!
GLTA!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by portman: I am just checking in periodically. Cassity's info does not surprise me. Nor does the delay with a lack of verifiable contradictory information. If the stock moves based on activity into the range of MRR's charting levels I will simply buy more if DD remains unchanged.
Yup!!!
Don't know if it will dip that far.....Just sayen I can see how it could...
I am cool with what I see so far..
I understood (For once...lol). You always temper and explain your chart comments well. I really appreciate it!
Posted by bloodykitten on :
From hsm
From N*M on Paltalk:
new2market: CVSU AUDITOR:Thomas Benson (IA) Email:BensonTh*michigan.gov Telephone: (517) 335-4236 Fax: (517) 241-2986 Mail:Natural Resources Internal Audit vision 530 W. Allegan Street Lansing, MI 48933
Posted by cool AZ on :
I like the news on the cussip! It is communication that says despite a few left turns, we are making progress.
Posted by CRab on :
jeese how many phone calls you think that poor man is being barraded with right now, lol...
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by bloodykitten: From hsm
From N*M on Paltalk:
new2market: CVSU AUDITOR:Thomas Benson (IA) Email:BensonTh*michigan.gov Telephone: (517) 335-4236 Fax: (517) 241-2986 Mail:Natural Resources Internal Audit vision 530 W. Allegan Street Lansing, MI 48933
Nice. Rufus did say the guy was from Michigan in one of his interviews. Another big step there.
Posted by CRab on :
an audit completed by Mr. Benson...old but proves he IS at least a real person...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey Cat!!! Are you guys gettin anything engineered lately???
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: Yea, i believe so. Im pretty sure that this means they can activate the new symbol now....someone please correct me if im wrong?
Its on the banner right after "Cook school...blah blah". It only takes a minute or two to make the round trip through the straemer. http://www.cusip.com/
Yep just saw it also right before Flagship!
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: FYI: If I can buy 201 shares of PAIV and commission for 20 bucks yesterday and sell for a profit of $707.50 today then I can damn well dream about FHAL and $15 bucks a share.
And I did this with three different accounts but will now wait for $12 the rest of my 200 shares.
GO FHAL!!!!!!!!
Ouch, that was all good in theory but it appears PAIV (now PAVC) gapped down to $7? I dont want to compare the two!!
Posted by cool AZ on :
Several days ago we were prepared to expect a possible 10k at noon and halt at 2 ... wonder if that type of scenario could be in play again? Is there anything holding them back at this point other than the 10k?
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Hey Cat!!! Are you guys gettin anything engineered lately???
Haha! Shhhhh. Actually, im in a relatively small office and lately there has been a lot of "desk work" so if im sitting here i might as well have some things open.
But since you asked, yes...2009 Dodge truck power window switch. Coming soon to a truck near you!
Posted by SherriT on :
Hi all,
I have a software release Monday, so I haven't been able to stop by much - thanks for continuing to post all of the happenings with this stock. I am holding tight too, and patiently waiting. Have we definately confirmed the new ticker to be the old Cash Can? CSHC, right?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: FYI: If I can buy 201 shares of PAIV and commission for 20 bucks yesterday and sell for a profit of $707.50 today then I can damn well dream about FHAL and $15 bucks a share.
And I did this with three different accounts but will now wait for $12 the rest of my 200 shares.
GO FHAL!!!!!!!!
Ouch, that was all good in theory but it appears PAIV (now PAVC) gapped down to $7? I dont want to compare the two!!
hmm, well theory is fact if I have my cash . I even sold half X 8.5 and the other 6.05 making it $727. Dang if I sold now I'd have 23 more bucks.
Thats over 35 times the 20 I put in. I want more from FHAL.
And it didn't "gap" down to $7, it was taken down.
Posted by milliam on :
I know what you mean the Catia. I've been busy on the computer more than usual . Of course it could just be that our office is AC'd and the shop isn't (right now, its probably 98 degrees out there now). Power window switch, eh...sounds like a blast!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
THIS BLOWS!!!!
just thought I would share that...
Posted by CRab on :
I concur...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
great news on the new cusip. Now do they change the symbol and release the 10k is that how it's supposed to go.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: THIS BLOWS!!!!
just thought I would share that...
So nice of you to share...LOL! I'm going' outside to "play"...too nice out to sit and watch this do nothing...I have a buy in at a low bid..just in case... Posted by dog on :
aaaaaarrrrrggghhhh.....
Posted by dog on :
If I have to go thru the weekend with nothing to keep me snuggly at nite about this stock I'm gonna have to... wait just like everybody else.
Posted by dog on :
Still no halts listed
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I was looking at pinksheets.com and looked up cshc which we all know is for cash can but it said this :
CSHC -- Cash Can, Inc Com ($0.001) Primary Venue: Other OTC
Other OTC Or otherwise known as the "Grey Market" is the trading of a security that is not listed on any stock exchange or quoted on the Pink Sheets or the OTCBB. Other OTC trades are reported to the NASD so investors can track price and volume, however bids and offers are not collected in a central spot so Best Execution of orders is difficult.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Wow we broke a million trades before noon. Action is really picking up... LOL /jk
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Wow we broke a million trades before noon. Action is really picking up... LOL /jk
Oops it wasn't before noon no milestone I guess. Hee hee.
Posted by MTPromises on :
geez, I've heard of watching paint dry but I think the paint has already withered and is ready to be replaced . . . a fresh coat of PRs should do it
Posted by luvforever on :
ok now it's just bs! When is this ceo gonna do something?? Ok I vented. I really don't much care but darn it I want news like everyone else. Why would he do this then let the shareholders hang?????
Posted by luvforever on :
He can't be tht dumb?? Or could he?? I mean a lil updatewould be great instead of just sitting here. He'd want the same if it were him..#!x#x#!
Posted by dog on :
I just can't take it anymore.... this is the last time I day trade at work!
IMO, do not expect anything to happen until Monday, ticker needs to be assigned to new cusip number (done in seperate places), ticker by nasdaq, cusip by s&p. I would expect monday at earliest for halt and 10k, maybe Tuesday open under new ticker for trading.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
thought you were done venting..
Posted by luvforever on :
ugh!!!!!! okay I'm smiling... think I'll go tan for awhile... LOL Posted by dog on :
That seems reasonable... wonder how many will get shook loose by that.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor: IMO, do not expect anything to happen until Monday, ticker needs to be assigned to new cusip number (done in seperate places), ticker by nasdaq, cusip by s&p. I would expect monday at earliest for halt and 10k, maybe Tuesday open under new ticker for trading.
That BLOWS TOO!!!!
I would like to see sumpthin before that....Monday/Tuesday will make this dip hard before then..IMO
Hard enough to flip...if you dare!!
Posted by dog on :
It just sux that I'm not buying this as it dips.... don't want more stock than I have... but can't sell it at a reasonable price, a flip could get you locked out of the whole deal. After all this wait... I'm not chancing that.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Did my post from pinksheets.com make sense to you guys. That cshc is not a symbol on any stock market? I just want to make sure as I put it up on Ihub and low and behold some people are tearing into it.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Maumee, your right it sucks but if you believe in this the PPS dropping should not matter, only makes your account look bad, lets hope it is temporary. Things are progressing, i believe Rufus had every intention to get this done by the 1st, but in business stuff happens that is out of your control, unfortunatly lots of shareholders have to suffer the consequences as well.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It just sux that I'm not buying this as it dips.... don't want more stock than I have... but can't sell it at a reasonable price, a flip could get you locked out of the whole deal. After all this wait... I'm not chancing that.
The lack of volume and obviose manipulation(IMO)by MM's to hold it down... kind of supports your thought ...and everyone elses..
Nobody has the menards to buy, sell,or flip..
Again....
THIS BLOWS!!!!
that is the phrase of the day for me...
P.S.
Trading range gettin tighter....sumpthin' has got to give here soon..IMO
Posted by dog on :
Its more a blow to the ego to watch the PPS dwindle... I know it doesn't mean a damn thing until the 10K
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I just can't take it anymore.... this is the last time I day trade at work!
dang, why does everyone think im a "her". Do i come off that feminine in my text?!?
Posted by CRab on :
thats kinda funny...i think you've defended your masculinity five or six times in the last couple weeks, lol...
Posted by dog on :
my bad... doh I never get it right. If I would have said "his", I'd have been wrong too. I'm wrong alot. I have "I'm Sorry " tattoed on my forehead just to save time.
This a great stock though....
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: thats kinda funny...i think you've defended your masculinity five or six times in the last couple weeks, lol...
Twice actually but i dont want to start a trend. Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: my bad... doh I never get it right. If I would have said "his", I'd have been wrong too. I'm wrong alot. I have "I'm Sorry " tattoed on my forehead just to save time.
This a great stock though....
haha, im just kiddin. Its not like we have banners stating our sex all over the place. I think Catia throws people off or something.
But anyway....yea great stock though
Posted by dog on :
Hey did we resolve any of those concerns about the defaulted loans, PIPES, and Mr. 78% owner? Just seemed like a way to get this deal done IMO. Sure these guys are going to make a sheizeload of money, but I just didn't see the smoking gun. Plus Glass and Dust were getting a bit testy, so I went to bed...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It just sux that I'm not buying this as it dips.... don't want more stock than I have... but can't sell it at a reasonable price, a flip could get you locked out of the whole deal. After all this wait... I'm not chancing that.
Agreed dog...I was able to sell half of my position yesterday at a whoppin' 1.03...Thursday was my "cut off date" for this thing...in light of all that is happening...I figured that there would be a sell off due to the lack of info and "strangeness" surrounding what little info there is...so I sold half...hoping to get it at a much lower PPS today...we'll see if it works...other wise...I still am in with half...and I will hold that until I see absolute that this is a scam...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah the handle is kinda girly... Go to your profile and change it to "Mr.CatiaEngineer". or "HeyImaDude" that should do the trick.
Posted by CRab on :
SenorCatiaEngineer
CatiaMan
CatiaBoy
SirCatia
lol...are we there yet?
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: dang, why does everyone think im a "her". Do i come off that feminine in my text?!?
hey, at least people believe you're a real person!
everybody thinks im pretending to be someone else
~BB
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Damn.... I'm suprised 10 isn't gettin in on this manhood thing....It's like a hobby of hers I think!! Posted by CRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: dang, why does everyone think im a "her". Do i come off that feminine in my text?!?
hey, at least people believe you're a real person!
everybody thinks im pretending to be someone else
~BB
oh hush up...you know you're just some web developer that does that poor woman's site...that's why you can put up all that info...she never REALLY looks at her own website...
Posted by dog on :
Nah girl... you have your own website and everything. That's gotta be real! I believe pretty much about everything I read on the internet. Makes life interesting.
Posted by unclerudy on :
Hope that clears up some misconceptions...
Posted by betting babe on :
poor woman??? im sorry CRab, but why am i a "poor woman?"
and fyi i knew what CATIA was or kinda, its some kinda CAD thing. like Google sketchUp! lol
~BB
Posted by dog on :
and begin...
Posted by CRab on :
because some crazy web developer is stealing her identity!!! you should be ashamed!!!
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Did my post from pinksheets.com make sense to you guys. That cshc is not a symbol on any stock market? I just want to make sure as I put it up on Ihub and low and behold some people are tearing into it.
My gut reaction to that is that it is a non-issue. As long as the company name is listed as CashCan, that is.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Here is what CATIA is...
Thanks unclerudy... I will never get that three minutes of my life back. Posted by dog on :
Hell... you'll never get this week back!
Posted by betting babe on :
i guess i set myself up for this even making the comment. but it's not funny.
anyway, boring day. thought of adding some but waiting to see where the pps goes later today. if i wasnt sitting in a hotel room id probably find something better to do...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: because some crazy web developer is stealing her identity!!! you should be ashamed!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
on p al talk
makemyday_4: Spoke with TA again. Besides everything being in the hands of various agencies, he said the new company symbol will be out by Monday or Tuesday and start trading with new symbol Wednesday or Thursday. He said there are 74M shares outstanding and 200M authorized. He was not aware of any dilution.
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Here is what CATIA is...
Thanks unclerudy... I will never get that three minutes of my life back.
Just trying to shed light on the darkness of ignorance.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I'm not sure if that is new news....or even true.
Posted by CRab on :
Posted by CRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i guess i set myself up for this even making the comment. but it's not funny.
anyway, boring day. thought of adding some but waiting to see where the pps goes later today. if i wasnt sitting in a hotel room id probably find something better to do...
quote:Originally posted by CRab: because some crazy web developer is stealing her identity!!! you should be ashamed!!!
I really was kidding...didn't mean to offend...I believe you are who you say...just poking fun...
Posted by dog on :
Could be BS to make people think trading will go on for 2-3 more days. Probably tryin to jumpstart something. I want a formal PR . . or a 10k
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
BB "poor woman" just means if some sadistic web developer is out there stealing your identity... We as a whole would feel sorry for you... oops there we go again.. We as a whole would have sympathy for said victim of said hanus crime. Even if the said web developer had cool comments like "Oh, I am gonna be late for my shoot." to back up their sick and twisted game, the heartfelt feelings go out to the pretty model, not intellegent "sick and twisted" web developer/penny stock investor.
My head hurts.
TB
Posted by CRab on :
yeah what he said...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Wow!!! Get off of BB!!!
Lets pick on Catia some more... Posted by dog on :
There's way too much "news" being leaked about this... yes some have proven to be true, but I'm not ready to believe anything that's being purported, until a formal press release.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I spoke to an individual with the intials of T.A. and he said nothing of any major importance.
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by CatiaEngineer: dang, why does everyone think im a "her". Do i come off that feminine in my text?!?
hey, at least people believe you're a real person!
everybody thinks im pretending to be someone else
~BB
Thats the price you pay for being our sexy resident "celebrity". Quit complainin' Posted by maumee river rat on :
Did I miss sumpthin dog ??
Posted by betting babe on :
yeah lets pick on catia some more Posted by new2stocks on :
yeah, I odn't like word of mouth myself, I like to see it on paper! Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote: yeah lets pick on catia some more
Nah, let's leave her alone, too. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
My step daughter has a sister named Catia... and yes she is a 11 year old girl of Russian decent. Now that I think about it... I think she would like to grow up to be an engineer.
/jk about the being an engineer part no kid wants to grow up and do that for a living. That is just something they get suckered into in college when they find out how much teachers and firemen make.
Posted by dog on :
This... more "news" what I was referring to:
new2stocks Member
Member Rated: 5 Icon 1 posted 08-04-2006 13:40 Profile for new2stocks Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote on p al talk
makemyday_4: Spoke with TA again. Besides everything being in the hands of various agencies, he said the new company symbol will be out by Monday or Tuesday and start trading with new symbol Wednesday or Thursday. He said there are 74M shares outstanding and 200M authorized. He was not aware of any dilution.
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: poor woman??? im sorry CRab, but why am i a "poor woman?"
and fyi i knew what CATIA was or kinda, its some kinda CAD thing. like Google sketchUp! lol
~BB
Haha! Now im a woman with google sketchup. I started on etch-a-sketch and upgraded to google, its a pain in the arse shaking the monitor to clear it.
Posted by Sandusky on :
...and if college doesn't work out they become models.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Catia!! maybe you should change your screen name to..
Ivan the Lumberjack or sumpthin...
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My step daughter has a sister named Catia... and yes she is a 11 year old girl of Russian decent. Now that I think about it... I think she would like to grow up to be an engineer.
/jk about the being an engineer part no kid wants to grow up and do that for a living. That is just something they get suckered into in college when they find out how much teachers and firemen make.
As the evening sky faded from a salmon color to a sort of flint gray, I thought back to the salmon I caught that morning, and how gray he was, and how I named him Flint.
Posted by portman on :
Somehow Sandusky...I don't think BB fits that comment.
She seems pretty smart and nice to boot!
Posted by Mr. CatiaEngineer the manly man on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Somehow Sandusky...I don't think BB fits that comment.
She seems pretty smart and nice to boot!
Popcorn for the soul....thats a hoot. Posted by betting babe on :
go where the big bux are my dear... doesnt take a college ejucashun to figure that out
speaking of big bux, any guesses on eod pps?
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: ...and if college doesn't work out they become models.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Mr. CatiaEngineer the manly man Member
Anyone that has to state clearly that they are a "manly man"....
must be a cross dresser!!!
J/K
Posted by Mr. CatiaEngineer The Manly Man on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: go where the big bux are my dear... doesnt take a college ejucashun to figure that out
speaking of big bux, any guesses on eod pps?
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: ...and if college doesn't work out they become models.
Well, if we follow the trend id guess .99
This, of course, means we need that 2:30 regain of confidence to push it up a bit. So yea...my not so confident guess is .99
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My step daughter has a sister named Catia... and yes she is a 11 year old girl of Russian decent. Now that I think about it... I think she would like to grow up to be an engineer.
/jk about the being an engineer part no kid wants to grow up and do that for a living. That is just something they get suckered into in college when they find out how much teachers and firemen make.
Man, does that shoe fit....wanted to be a teacher my whole life until college then my Dad (who was a teacher), and my professors convinced me computers was a better career choice. Can't argue with them actually....was a good move.
Now I just need to make money trading so I can teach for fun! Posted by Mr. CatiaEngineer The Manly Man on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Mr. CatiaEngineer the manly man Member
Anyone that has to state clearly that they are a "manly man"....
must be a cross dresser!!!
J/K
Haha, i was epxecting that reponse! I thought i would "go big" and then throttle it back to a more reasonable name.
Posted by Sandusky on :
Just taking the rib session full circle. I know nothing...college was worthless, I have no looks or money...hoping Rufi takes care of the latter.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: go where the big bux are my dear... doesnt take a college ejucashun to figure that out
speaking of big bux, any guesses on eod pps?
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: ...and if college doesn't work out they become models.
Posted by bb also known as a poor model pp on :
awwww thx portman ur my new best friend Posted by maumee river rat on :
Go for the Lumberjack thing catia,,,,
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Apparently BB prefers to be called smart over sexy. You live and you learn i guess. Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by bb also known as a poor model pp: awwww thx portman ur my new best friend
Sumpthin lacking sincerety here...
Posted by MTPromises on :
Some entertaining dialogue going on here. I'm going to expand my invite beyond WI and invite all of you to the "I Love Rufus" celebration. We have quite the group of personalities on this thread . . . I can only imagine what some face to face interaction would be like combined with some alcohol.
BTW, I'd like to qualify that I am from Wisconsin, so if any of you are a little taken back from my constant tendency to revert back to comments about alcohol and partying and think that I may have a problem - the answer is yes, I'm from Wisconsin.
Posted by bb also known as a poor model pp on :
u got it catia.
boy, we sure are bored today.
mmmm MT beer and cheese wisconsin rox!
Posted by new2stocks on :
I live in Wisconsin too! Posted by cassity on :
Catia, why don't you just tell them what it stands for. I believe it's a engineering program. Haven't had a chance to use it in school yet, probably this year.
Posted by jos_tul on :
FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
Posted by portman on :
Mr. Catia
Truth be told I stole the "popcorn for the soul" part from a Dilbert strip.
So, I can't take credit Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by bb also known as a poor model pp: u got it catia.
boy, we sure are bored today.
mmmm MT beer and cheese wisconsin rox!
BB...there isn't anything poor about you...Looks like you have it all (no that's not my opinion...it's a fact). BB stands for Brains & Beautiful!
Posted by jos_tul on :
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
Just kidding Guys..to keep away from Boredom Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
When did CVSU become an invalid ticker symbol?
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul:
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
Just kidding Guys..to keep away from Boredom
dang, I liked your first message better Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
What???? JOKING RIGHT???
Posted by BULListic on :
Come down to Madison and I'll take ya all down to State Street for a Brat and a Beer....hell, find Roofy and bring his clan as well, nothing much else going on right now.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I live in Wisconsin too!
Posted by new2stocks on :
I was born in Madison
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Catia, why don't you just tell them what it stands for. I believe it's a engineering program. Haven't had a chance to use it in school yet, probably this year.
I think Rudy put something up. But, since boredom is heavy here.
It simply means "Computer Aided Three-dimensional Interactive Application". DaimlerChrysler, Ford, Honda, Toyota and I believe Boeing use it as their design software. BB was close in a silly kinda way....its a 3D CAD software package.
But, im seriously considering Lumberjacking now thanks to Rat. Or maybe log recovery...in say, the Amazon? Wouldnt that be a nice idea?
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Apparently BB prefers to be called smart over sexy. You live and you learn i guess.
All women know that they are sexy, no matter if it is true or not. But some are smart enough to take being called smart as a complement.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Come down to Madison and I'll take ya all down to State Street for a Brat and a Beer....hell, find Roofy and bring his clan as well, nothing much else going on right now.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I live in Wisconsin too!
Can you still drink on the "L" from Madison to Chi'-Town???
That used to be a blast...
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
When did cvsu become an invalid ticker?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by bb also known as a poor model pp: u got it catia.
boy, we sure are bored today.
mmmm MT beer and cheese wisconsin rox!
Hmmm how about stunning? Is this still considered a compliment?! Its tough to keep up with those Do's and Dont's ya know!
Posted by portman on :
Catia...I'll go with if I can drive the boat!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: Some entertaining dialogue going on here. I'm going to expand my invite beyond WI and invite all of you to the "I Love Rufus" celebration. We have quite the group of personalities on this thread . . . I can only imagine what some face to face interaction would be like combined with some alcohol.
BTW, I'd like to qualify that I am from Wisconsin, so if any of you are a little taken back from my constant tendency to revert back to comments about alcohol and partying and think that I may have a problem - the answer is yes, I'm from Wisconsin.
That sounds great to me but lets make sure we really love him before making the commitment!! Hey, all I have to do is drive around that lil pond over there. ------->
Posted by cassity on :
The company I work for uses Pro-E. CAD work is the funnest thing I do at school. By the way today sucks. BBBBORRINNNGGGGGGGGG!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: Some entertaining dialogue going on here. I'm going to expand my invite beyond WI and invite all of you to the "I Love Rufus" celebration. We have quite the group of personalities on this thread . . . I can only imagine what some face to face interaction would be like combined with some alcohol.
BTW, I'd like to qualify that I am from Wisconsin, so if any of you are a little taken back from my constant tendency to revert back to comments about alcohol and partying and think that I may have a problem - the answer is yes, I'm from Wisconsin.
My pal Jim Beam and I spent 4 years in the U.P. of Michigan when I was in the Air Force...
I know your pain, Don't cha know!!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Come down to Madison and I'll take ya all down to State Street for a Brat and a Beer....hell, find Roofy and bring his clan as well, nothing much else going on right now.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I live in Wisconsin too!
great idea . . . we can hit up the Red Shed and enjoy some of their infamous long island iced tea!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul:
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
Just kidding Guys..to keep away from Boredom
Had me scrambling there for a few minutes...FUNNY...NOT!
Actually it was. Much longer and we won't have to joke about it thought...Right? Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: When did cvsu become an invalid ticker?
quote:Originally posted by portman: Catia...I'll go with if I can drive the boat!
Yea, sure. So then i have to get in the water with the crocs, snakes and little tiny jiggys trying to find a warm hole? No thanks. Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by bb also known as a poor model pp: u got it catia.
boy, we sure are bored today.
mmmm MT beer and cheese wisconsin rox!
Hmmm how about stunning? Is this still considered a compliment?! Its tough to keep up with those Do's and Dont's ya know!
Yes... STUNNING works in her case!
Posted by betting babe on :
jos_tul! you freaked me out! a halt would be a nice way to end the day tho!
if we can get this halt thing going i can post a pic with my new ferrari.
~BB
ps, thx for the stunning ill take that AND the smart greedy greedy
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wow..you guys have been board.. Cat...i think that You have a "nice" tone to your posts...most guys come across a little cocky...Hense the "her" thing...I think you are a "gentleman"
BB...if they don't believe you...screw them...you have looks and smarts...everyman's nightmare...LOL...
Maumee...in your own words.."PUTZ"....
So are we going to get a dip in the end of day...for Friday sell offs?
Posted by betting babe on :
every friday i think theres gonna be sell offs and there never seem to be.
but ill be down at the spa by then so *shrugs shoulders*
~BB
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...in your own words.."PUTZ"....
WHAT??? Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wow..you guys have been board.. Cat...i think that You have a "nice" tone to your posts...most guys come across a little cocky...Hense the "her" thing...I think you are a "gentleman"
BB...if they don't believe you...screw them...you have looks and smarts...everyman's nightmare...LOL...
Maumee...in your own words.."PUTZ"....
So are we going to get a dip in the end of day...for Friday sell offs?
HEY!! Now ive found MY new best friend!
Thanks! Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
BB...if they don't believe you...screw them...you have looks and smarts...everyman's nightmare...LOL...
I wouldn't call that a nightmare, more like a dream come true lol.
Posted by BULListic on :
Roof is giving us all a reason to drink, but as they say, it's not illegal if you don't get caught. It's almost Blatz time
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Come down to Madison and I'll take ya all down to State Street for a Brat and a Beer....hell, find Roofy and bring his clan as well, nothing much else going on right now.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I live in Wisconsin too!
Can you still drink on the "L" from Madison to Chi'-Town???
That used to be a blast...
Posted by 10of13 on :
news out....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
So are we going to get a dip in the end of day...for Friday sell offs?
That would depend on wether YOU post again EOD..
Get it? hehehe
Posted by Johnwayne on :
News - good luck guys
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders. We had a few extended delays that were caused by confusion over the merger; generally the trading entity name and symbol survive in this type of reorganization. The delays involved the reorganized entity name and CUSIP number; all problems have been solved and the New CUSIP is as follows: ISSUER: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP CUSIP NUMBER: 21254V 10 0 ISIN NUMBER: US21254V1008 ISSUE DESCRIPTION: COM The required documentation was submitted to NASDAQ for the new Symbol and merger requirements. We should have our new symbol as early as Monday, August 7, 2006. "I would like to thank each and every sustaining shareholder for their support. All business should move in an expeditious manner from this point forward," stated Rufus Paul Harris. About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CSHC is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHC's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHC is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Contact Information: Rufus Paul Harris of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, +1-770-420-8270, or Harris*cvsu.us
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 04, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders. We had a few extended delays that were caused by confusion over the merger; generally the trading entity name and symbol survive in this type of reorganization. The delays involved the reorganized entity name and CUSIP number; all problems have been solved and the New CUSIP is as follows:
The required documentation was submitted to NASDAQ for the new Symbol and merger requirements. We should have our new symbol as early as Monday, August 7, 2006. "I would like to thank each and every sustaining shareholder for their support. All business should move in an expeditious manner from this point forward," stated Rufus Paul Harris.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHC is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHC's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHC is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CONTACT: Rufus Paul Harris of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, +1-770-420-8270, or Harris*cvsu.us
Copyright (C) 2006 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
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KEYWORD: Georgia INDUSTRY KEYWORD: FIN SUBJECT CODE: TNM
Posted by dog on :
Time to get ready for happy hour anyways... brie, tartare, and a nice cab. Nothings going down today by the sound of it, except ouor PPS.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It's doing something...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
no dip now IMO....unless 10 posts again...hehehe
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: no dip now IMO....unless 10 posts again...hehehe
bite me Posted by dog on :
oohhh... nice run there LOL... I'm going to hit the shower. Somebody scream if anything happens...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
This was a very wise move by Rufas.....I'm starting to like this guy!!!
Posted by mnvestor on :
Anyone want to call last chance under a dollar to buy?
Posted by dog on :
wtf?
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Time to go back up for the weekend! New HOD!
Still lots of wiggle room in this PR. It states:
quote:We SHOULD have our new symbol AS EARLY AS Monday, August 7, 2006. (emphasis mine)
Doesn't say that they WILL have the symbol then, so I hope everyone doesn't freak out on Monday if it isn't changed by then.
Posted by dog on :
Any news we don't know about?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Good deal, finally they shed some light on things. Im headed home soon then probably the local drinking hole for a few. I dont want no fightin' and bickerin' amongst ya'all tonight now k?
(ok who am i kiddin, you know ill be checkin in off and on)
Posted by new2stocks on :
Anyone want my shares... I am selling them at a cheap $35.00 a piece. Thanks for the news Rufas!
Game on!
Posted by dog on :
Ok...it's the weekend. Now I want everybody to promise that they won't be workin on this stock or checking anything out this weekednd. Go have fun....
yeah right
Posted by new2stocks on :
I don't know if anyone new this
Posted by mnvestor on :
Tax, I will sell mine for 34.99
Posted by ruthie on :
Mine I will let go for a steal......30.00
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It's bumpin' its nose on that gap....strong resistance....It will break it...
If this news didn't come out, I think we would have moved just as hard the other way...
Way to save the day Rufas!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
OH sorry I guess eveyone does!! lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
Whoo Hooo...keep it moving!
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I don't know if anyone new this
I posted this exact senario earlier today, bottom line, patience will pay off.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Ok...it's the weekend. Now I want everybody to promise that they won't be workin on this stock or checking anything out this weekednd. Go have fun....
yeah right
I already decided I am cleaning the crud out of my garage. It should take me 2 days easy. It should keep me away from this broad most of the time, but unlike most people I have a computer out there too. Posted by CRab on :
someone is going crazy with the buys...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
nice pr. I'm glad they did that
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Close over 1.07 would be wonderful
Posted by dog on :
More entertainment! Damn this week has been fun
Posted by unclerudy on :
Green Day it shall be!!!!!!
WOOT!!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by dog: It just sux that I'm not buying this as it dips.... don't want more stock than I have... but can't sell it at a reasonable price, a flip could get you locked out of the whole deal. After all this wait... I'm not chancing that.
Agreed dog...I was able to sell half of my position yesterday at a whoppin' 1.03...Thursday was my "cut off date" for this thing...in light of all that is happening...I figured that there would be a sell off due to the lack of info and "strangeness" surrounding what little info there is...so I sold half...hoping to get it at a much lower PPS today...we'll see if it works...other wise...I still am in with half...and I will hold that until I see absolute that this is a scam...
10, just wanted say that what you described above is pretty much what I did today - I couldn't take it anymore! Because I've been torturing myself by having everything riding on this. I feel much better now. Won't get as big of a bang but as you say - I still have half. I wasn't carrying as big a position as lostone but probably more than most.
Posted by jos_tul on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul:
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: FHAL HALTED !!! FINALLY !!!
Just kidding Guys..to keep away from Boredom
Had me scrambling there for a few minutes...FUNNY...NOT!
Actually it was. Much longer and we won't have to joke about it thought...Right?
Looks like this joke is going to become realty Monday ...I meant the realty Posted by dog on :
Smart move... if you can't go out and have fun tonite... you were in too deep. Still gonna end up in the plus column.... and there will always be more opportunity and more money.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Posted by unclerudy on :
Now he just needs to release the 10K at 3:59, halt trading for the day, and open on Monday at $15.00. Should be good to watch over the next hour.
Posted by SherriT on :
We had a few extended delays that were caused by confusion over the merger; generally the trading entity name and symbol survive in this type of reorganization. The delays involved the reorganized entity name and CUSIP number; all problems have been solved and the New CUSIP is as follows:
The required documentation was submitted to NASDAQ for the new Symbol and merger requirements. We should have our new symbol as early as Monday, August 7, 2006.
'I would like to thank each and every sustaining shareholder for their support. All business should move in an expeditious manner from this point forward,' stated Rufus Paul Harris.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHC is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHC's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHC is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
Haven't been able to verify it, except on one board, but it is a reliable one IMHO.....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Push through...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Just bought 500 more shares for 1.04
Posted by dog on :
Rudy... hadn't thought of that. the plot thickens
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Got some good resistance btween 1.07 and 1.11
Posted by portman on :
singing, "... run ruunnn runnn run run..." <wash, rinse, repeat>
Posted by SherriT on :
Sorry guys - I should've looked at page 6 too :-(
At least we are all SURE everyone knows about the PR
Posted by lostone on :
well, i've learned to stop beating myself up b/c of profit taking, no matter how small it is.. i now have a relatively small position and secured my profits.. it's hard not to be greedy.. but hey, i can't expect to retire b/c of pennies.. it's not practical.. be nice to get a BMW out of it tho =), but i'll be extremely happy to pay off all student loans..
Posted by dog on :
We get to 1.15 and its awwnnn....
Posted by dog on :
Don't pay back the student loans as they are likely at the lowest interest rate you've got... Do the highest rate debt first... Buy a good bottle of scotch... And jump back in the fire, using all you've learned with this stock!
Posted by MTPromises on :
thanks for the support dog and lostone - the $15 price is hard to ignore when you multiply it times the number of shares you own. But keeping half of my shares will still be a nice chunk of change.
Posted by lostone on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Don't pay back the student loans as they are likely at the lowest interest rate you've got... Do the highest rate debt first... Buy a good bottle of scotch... And jump back in the fire, using all you've learned with this stock!
well, this time i'm making sure i'm gonna use my profits.. PGPM pissed me off so much, so i learned my lesson.. i'd rather spend some, than just lose all.. and from now on, no more investing from my own money.. only profits.. so technically, i won't ever lose
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Don't pay back the student loans as they are likely at the lowest interest rate you've got... Do the highest rate debt first... Buy a good bottle of scotch... And jump back in the fire, using all you've learned with this stock!
Not to mention when you go to buy a house they look at every other form of debit you may have, but never student loans. I agree they are a pain but they should be delt with last. OK second to last.
Posted by Stock on :
if and only if Monday the stock opens at 15$ AND we are allowed to trade the same day, im selling all my shares and throwing a crack party.
Posted by portman on :
I will certainly be there for a nice bottle of Macallan Millenium....mmmmmm tasty!
Posted by mnvestor on :
Anyone else thing ARCA is trying to cover??
Posted by maumee river rat on :
1.07 bein a F-er
Posted by dog on :
It just won't break... don't those people know that the may be the last chance to get in?
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
could the 15$ shares be restricted in anyway?
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: could the 15$ shares be restricted in anyway?
No restrictions for current FHAL shareholders
Posted by CRab on :
haha! there it goes...
Posted by 10of13 on :
MT...IMO..we all have to do what we are comfortable with...I got the other half back just as the news hit today....08 less than what I sold at..so it was an itty bitty flip...if you feel more positve next week...you can always grab it back...I also don't hold quite the large position as many here...but I am not one to put all in one basket...too many variables...GLTA!
Posted by mnvestor on :
good call 10, possibility of 10k over weekend, would be just like Rufus to really hurt those who are short, JMO
Posted by CRab on :
woohoo! finally broke...
Maumee...where we going since it broke?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
1.11 would be nice now ...COMMON BABY!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Thanks M N 1... they just mentioned the news and pushed us through 1.07. HA!
Posted by Stock on :
i am on my cell phone right now and driving ...can someone tell me what the ask/bid is at the moment
Posted by mnvestor on :
stock, moving to fast, 1.11 x 1.12
Posted by maumee river rat on :
geeeez Could we get a HOD close???
Can you say 1.22
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
1.11 x 1.12
Posted by 10of13 on :
1.11/1.12 Get the hell off the phone ...YOU ARE DRIVING!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
maumee you see a possible 1.22 close
Posted by maumee river rat on :
They are gunna really try to put the brakes on now...Not sure they can,,,,,
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...buys comin through and they are taking it down BS!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
what's up with ARCA's 1.1001 sell ... weird number
Posted by portman on :
walking her down... last shake.
Posted by Stock on :
i got the PR on my phone...so they are saying and explaining to WHY they have been late...good. They also said, Monday the symbole AKA the PPS would change also i assume. In other words we can expect the price we were promised next week AND trade it ?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm sure they can get a little retrace but I agree probably not much of one though
Posted by 10of13 on :
1.07/1.08 that's the hope Stock
Posted by DDA on :
quote:Originally posted by Stock: i am on my cell phone right now and driving ...can someone tell me what the ask/bid is at the moment
As a man I can't multitask. How do you do this ?
Posted by Stock on :
do u guys see any accumulation of buys, any pressure...on the L2s, do u see any MM accumulation so that we can at least KNOW they are grabbing as much as they can for monday
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by DDA:
quote:Originally posted by Stock: i am on my cell phone right now and driving ...can someone tell me what the ask/bid is at the moment
As a man I can't multitask. How do you do this ?
He's still a boy... Posted by kt325ci on :
I bet the symbol change will cause a big gap up on monday like it did for LFWK -> SLJB
Posted by Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by DDA:
quote:Originally posted by Stock: i am on my cell phone right now and driving ...can someone tell me what the ask/bid is at the moment
As a man I can't multitask. How do you do this ?
He's still a boy...
HEY THERE!
Posted by Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by DDA:
quote:Originally posted by Stock: i am on my cell phone right now and driving ...can someone tell me what the ask/bid is at the moment
As a man I can't multitask. How do you do this ?
cruise control, use the knee, and just check my TREO for the updates Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: maumee you see a possible 1.22 close
In a perfect world...
No I can't see them lettin that happen,,1.075 would be a good bet...unless peeps are afraid of the week end
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by kt325ci: I bet the symbol change will cause a big gap up on monday like it did for LFWK -> SLJB
I hope all understnad that this is not the "closing of FHAL"...they just reported that the "symbol" for CVSU has been changed and they should have it by Monday...we will still be trading as FHAL...at this moment...
Posted by skip on :
quote:Originally posted by Stock: if and only if Monday the stock opens at 15$ AND we are allowed to trade the same day, im selling all my shares and throwing a crack party.
best post I have read all day, crack party, brilliant!
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
GEEEEZ !!! This is pure Bull Chit!!!
MM's still gotta few tricks left in um...
Posted by jos_tul on :
Based on L2, I guess this will close at 1.07 - 1.08
Posted by RyanPBF on :
It really seems like the mm's are trying to contain this.
Posted by portman on :
MMmmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooooooo
Posted by BooDog on :
Already 8 pages...I have seen millions go in in the last 10 minutes on a few stocks...wondering if this was one of them.
And that's millions on the buy not sell side
Posted by maumee river rat on :
missed it by a 1/2 penny....1.07 it is
Posted by jos_tul on :
quote:Originally posted by jos_tul: Based on L2, I guess this will close at 1.07 - 1.08
bingo..closed at 1.07
Posted by RyanPBF on :
that's it no cupie doll for you rat. You should be ashamed of yourself making predictions and being that far off Posted by fryyguyy on :
I have it at 1.054
Posted by MTPromises on :
some sizable after hour trades (50K, 15K)
Posted by 10of13 on :
YESSSS!!!!
Tick Tock! Weekends here! And Rufas pulled it off again!
Posted by lostone on :
well, i guess the MMs aren't worried at all.. i'm sure they havce their ways ...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
you know if I wasn't afraid of being left out in the cold with this thing halting. I'd be a millionaire by now with the way this has traded. Well maybe not a millionaire
Posted by BooDog on :
good luck you guys.
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: you know if I wasn't afraid of being left out in the cold with this thing halting. I'd be a millionaire by now with the way this has traded. Well maybe not a millionaire
no, but we all get your point - for sure!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: I have it at 1.054
Ya me too....At the bell it was at 1.07...MM's sneakin in a down tic after the bell took it to 1.054
Posted by cassity on :
Peace out fella's, enjoy your weekend and hopefully Monday brings us good news. Later
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
So will this new symbol be trading on monday at $15 Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't think the new symbol will start trading on monday. It'd be nice way to start the week but I don't think it'll happen.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: So will this new symbol be trading on monday at $15
No...Not at this moment...We are still waiting on Financials..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Wow all of that for a 2% gain.... Crazy!!!
See ya gang!!
have a great weekend!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
What a day! Have a great weekend everyone! See you on Monday!
Posted by Stock on :
they never said nothing about financials, all they said flatly and as easy to understand as possible was : after the merger, the symbole will change with the new PPS...why do we now have to wait for anything else to get the pps to the 15 we have been waiting on for weeks.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
everyone have a great weekend and hopefully we'll get some news before monday.
Posted by cool AZ on :
I believe mm's buy at the bid and buying to cover their shorts could be why it didn't run as hard as it should have.
Good day everyone! (Someone go down to the spa and tell bb.)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Can I bring my snorkel??? Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Wow all of that for a 2% gain.... Crazy!!!
See ya gang!!
have a great weekend!!!
With that PR today i was hopping to see this at the $1.40's + at the close
what happend?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It did alright....
Needed a little more meat and time for the killer run... A follow up p.r. sayen anything would have gave it the gas it needed.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Didn't someone say that if it held above $1.00 for 20 days, and then price was reset above $4 it could be listed on nasdaq? That can't be right can it.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stock: they never said nothing about financials, all they said flatly and as easy to understand as possible was : after the merger, the symbole will change with the new PPS...why do we now have to wait for anything else to get the pps to the 15 we have been waiting on for weeks.
First Stock...are you still driving? Second..the thing with the symbol is that CVSU needed to get a new symbol..."They" are now getting one (thats what this pr stated)...The merger between "CVSU" and FHAL will not take place until the audited financials for FHAL have been recieved...and then the 2 will merge and the reset the PPS and it will open and start trading under the "new" symbol that they will be getting on Monday or so...
the audited financials are needed to show that FHAL is in bankrupt statis...that is how they will be able to "reset" the PPS...because they will be able to then show the "higher" value of CVSU's assets...that is the only way a company can stop trading and "reset the PPS"
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
10 has been keeping notes!! Nice recap!
Anyway, and im sure most people feel this way, they probably have the 10k sitting in someones desk....completed. But, as 10 said they had that whole symbol change to deal with first so IMO they put the 10k aside. He has pointed out a few times that when this takes off he wants a flurry of press behind it. It would make sense to rlease the 10k at the very last minute, halt trading, PR the merger, reset the PPS followed by some massive PR showing whats coming up....hopefully the AISS stuff. Releasing the 10k now only allows another run in the $1.50 range or so....but released at the right time....BAM! At least this is my take on things.....
I do know that im going to keep myself busy this weekend. I'll stop in every once in a while to see if any more news slipped out but dog's right....need some time away.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Mr....Go take a break...I think that you should have gone with Sir...more repectful...
But Mr. will do!
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
cough cough
Posted by betting babe on :
here i am!!!
i stared at this thing all day and it runs when i leave. go figure.
well, that spa appt just paid for itself
see what happens when we shower people? money. we make money.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: I believe mm's buy at the bid and buying to cover their shorts could be why it didn't run as hard as it should have.
Good day everyone! (Someone go down to the spa and tell bb.)
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stock: if and only if Monday the stock opens at 15$ AND we are allowed to trade the same day, im selling all my shares and throwing a crack party.
Don't know about a crack party, I'd buy a ring for BB (PP) and pop the question! Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by Stock: if and only if Monday the stock opens at 15$ AND we are allowed to trade the same day, im selling all my shares and throwing a crack party.
Don't know about a crack party, I'd buy a ring for BB (PP) and pop the question!
i already poped the question, and we look too damn good together. But now i wana show up with a nice car and more nice things. Fhal better make it happend!
Posted by betting babe on :
ewwwwwww
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
eww wat ?
Posted by CRab on :
Posted by betting babe on :
heheah. CRab i love that icon.
eww, there are naked people on my stock page.
Posted by sceptor on :
well shes hot at least LOL
just kiddin man.
Posted by betting babe on :
but is she smart. eh sceptor? Posted by CRab on :
haha...yeah...i decided i'd stay out of this, lol...star crossed lovers and all that, lmao...
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: heheah. CRab i love that icon.
eww, there are naked people on my stock page.
ok here are the same people with clothes if it makes u happier Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: well shes hot at least LOL
just kiddin man.
...thanks? ...lol
Posted by betting babe on :
oh those are real people. sorry dean i thought it was a joke. i wasnt really following the convo.
im out all, have a great weekend! ~BB
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: oh those are real people. sorry dean i thought it was a joke. i wasnt really following the convo.
im out all, have a great weekend! ~BB
those people are me and my fiancee...lol take care
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Dean you are ghetto!
Posted by betting babe on :
yes, i got that after reading, im sorry didnt mean anything mean. um, congrats on ur engagement
im gonna go see how my other foot tastes now Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Dean you are ghetto!
ghetto ?
lol, im wearing polo all white with shades on, how is that ghetto ?, its..clean
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
not the clothing, you just look like a spanish thug especially with the glasses, pimp style
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
well if im a thug, the only thing i hustle are stocks lol, i know what u mean though..its those damn shades
Posted by new2stocks on :
are we sharing pictures now?
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
no one else is posting any but me, so its not really sharing but why not...market is closed and im bored talking about stocks all day
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Sorry I missed today board.... I was busy typing up that PR and sending it in!! LOL KIDDING!! What a wonderful finish. The good old EOD run! ha ~ Thanks Uncle Rufus!
Posted by luvforever on :
Well, now I am happy... so is everyone else!? We got news and I would like to say thank you Mr. Rufus for giving us some information. It was greatly appreciated. Thank you. Everyone have a great weekend. Posted by 10of13 on :
What's up with the DEAN thing Stock? and is that the girl you spoke of last month? All is good?
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What's up with the DEAN thing Stock? and is that the girl you spoke of last month? All is good?
yea all is good for now..took some time but seems to be all good. I like Dean better than sir or Mr. Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hows that bump on your head Stock???
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
if u look close to my pic u see a scar on my forehead, most the big scar is on my head, hair kinda covers it up...its doing a lot better . Thank you for asking
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thats why In asked,,, I noticed the beauty mark... Glad all is well..
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Sorry I missed today board.... I was busy typing up that PR and sending it in!! LOL KIDDING!! What a wonderful finish. The good old EOD run! ha ~ Thanks Uncle Rufus!
you call a 2% gain a run at the EOD?
LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Boat load better than a 25% loss...I truely believe that had that P.R. not come out,....We would have been closen around .80...or less
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
just to be clear ONE last time...when the symbole changes, the pps changes also, then if he says the symbole change "should" be monday, then kinda expect the price too. correct me if im wrong
Posted by 10of13 on :
"Mr. Dean" ...I'm glad it worked out..Congrats!!!and she is very pretty!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: just to be clear ONE last time...when the symbole changes, the pps changes also, then if he says the symbole change "should" be monday, then kinda expect the price too. correct me if im wrong
Wrong...(Financials)...the symbol chnage is for CVSU...we are Still FHAL..."we" haven't merged yet...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey 10!!!
Much fun today ,huh! NOT!!
What cha think it will do monday???
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: just to be clear ONE last time...when the symbole changes, the pps changes also, then if he says the symbole change "should" be monday, then kinda expect the price too. correct me if im wrong
Wrong...(Financials)...the symbol chnage is for CVSU...we are Still FHAL..."we" haven't merged yet...
agh...waiting waiting waiting...i hate being an "investor"
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: "Mr. Dean" ...I'm glad it worked out..Congrats!!!and she is very pretty!
....and me ? Posted by 10of13 on :
I've already seen pictures of you...remember with the tiger?.... Fine..Son...you are very handsome... (and since you claim I am your mom...that would mean that you take after your mother....)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Yoour handsome 10??
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Thanks Uncle Rufus!
But will it catch on?
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I've already seen pictures of you...remember with the tiger?.... Fine..Son...you are very handsome... (and since you claim I am your mom...that would mean that you take after your mother....)
well i might wana stop to claim that, because its weird if a mom thinks her son is handsome while he wants to tell her she is also appealing...i dont want this to get awkward lol. you can be my mom here and there, but if i compliment you or put a move on you then you are not related to me anymore lmao
Posted by 10of13 on :
yes..very!
(Smart azz)
And i think the stock will...pretty much trade between .98-1.25 from now until the financials and the merger are announced...IMO...pretty much what it did all of this week...
[ August 04, 2006, 18:59: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...Yes...stock...you can have one or the other...not both..because that is just wrong! (in so many ways!)
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: if u look close to my pic u see a scar on my forehead, most the big scar is on my head, hair kinda covers it up...its doing a lot better . Thank you for asking
does that also explain the hospital ID bracelet? this was recent?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Didn't mean to rattel you 10....You Quoted the wrong post...hehe
I have that effect on people...
Usually results in total anger...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Bye the way 10....
I don't know if I mentioned it in the PM
But yes we are neighbors....I live off 295
so be nice... Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO...Yes...stock...you can have one or the other...not both..because that is just wrong! (in so many ways!)
if we lived in west virginia maybe having both would be normal lol . but yea, i think we can handle the change here and there
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: if u look close to my pic u see a scar on my forehead, most the big scar is on my head, hair kinda covers it up...its doing a lot better . Thank you for asking
does that also explain the hospital ID bracelet? this was recent?
the accident was in June 30th, i was in the coma for a little bit, then couldnt really move or walk, i took all my 4 or 5 bracelets they had on me except this one, just to remind me that one day i was at the bottom of my life.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Bye the way 10....
I don't know if I mentioned it in the PM
But yes we are neighbors....I live off 295
so be nice...
(Oops..fixed the other post...)
yes you said that...and I now lock my doors!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Didn't mean to rattel you 10....You Quoted the wrong post...hehe
I have that effect on people...
Usually results in total anger...
and cottage cheese sandwiches! Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: if u look close to my pic u see a scar on my forehead, most the big scar is on my head, hair kinda covers it up...its doing a lot better . Thank you for asking
does that also explain the hospital ID bracelet? this was recent?
the accident was in June 30th, i was in the coma for a little bit, then couldnt really move or walk, i took all my 4 or 5 bracelets they had on me except this one, just to remind me that one day i was at the bottom of my life.
not a bad idea...
sometimes takes a jolt to remind us how sweet it is to merely be walking around, eh?
congrats on "making it through"
Posted by maumee river rat on :
don't forget the saurkraut
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: if u look close to my pic u see a scar on my forehead, most the big scar is on my head, hair kinda covers it up...its doing a lot better . Thank you for asking
does that also explain the hospital ID bracelet? this was recent?
the accident was in June 30th, i was in the coma for a little bit, then couldnt really move or walk, i took all my 4 or 5 bracelets they had on me except this one, just to remind me that one day i was at the bottom of my life.
not a bad idea...
sometimes takes a jolt to remind us how sweet it is to merely be walking around, eh?
congrats on "making it through"
trust me Tex, i even appreciate the fact of breathing with my own lungs, having a tube down your throat that gives u Oxygen whenever the machine decides to will make a person think twice before giving up anything. Thanks for the words though.
Posted by T e x on :
got the T-shirt, man...
no thanks necessary... Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
the accident was in June 30th, i was in the coma for a little bit, then couldnt really move or walk, i took all my 4 or 5 bracelets they had on me except this one, just to remind me that one day i was at the bottom of my life. [/qb] __________________________________________________
Or just the beginning of it.. Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
the accident was in June 30th, i was in the coma for a little bit, then couldnt really move or walk, i took all my 4 or 5 bracelets they had on me except this one, just to remind me that one day i was at the bottom of my life. __________________________________________________
Or just the beginning of it.. [/QB]
i lost arround $13,000 while in the hospital because i couldnt get out of my stocks on time. ever since ive had people giving me large ammounts of money to trade for them...no, i think its a good biginning
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...are you still on "shift duty" that is why you are on this thing at night? Don't you have a bar or something?
Stock...I hope that you keep the memory of this accident...very close in the front of your mind...and never forget...how lucky you really are!
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maumee...are you still on "shift duty" that is why you are on this thing at night? Don't you have a bar or something?
Stock...I hope that you keep the memory of this accident...very close in the front of your mind...and never forget...how lucky you really are!
i know Kat, it was a wake up call for me, and trust me i know how so lucky i am to be alive, head on collision and scalp laceration, glad i still think the same way i used to ( and yes its a good thing..lol)
PS: u know my name, so u can call me by it if u want:)
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: don't forget the saurkraut
heh...making me think of Pirmanti Sandwiches...
Pretty much any warm sandwich you can think of with cheese frys and vinegar slaw on fresh sliced italian bread...add some red hot....heaven man. Great sober...better drunk...oh those college days.
Posted by sceptor on :
Establishing The Initial Stock Price - Once a reverse merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, the "sex appeal," track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management’s ability to relate the company’s potential to investors are of key importance.Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock.
Posted by Sandusky on :
If we're as heavily shorted as some think we sure won't have MM support behind $15. This is vague...there has to be more concrete rules about resetting pps...
Posted by glassman on :
sceptor: that was posted here awhile back too...
sandusky: if the company is cash strong? you should be able to relax on that...
if this was all just a gimmick? then you will see the price drop rapidly...
the audited financials are the key....
Posted by Sandusky on :
I think chartwalker said once this would come down to Rufus vs. Shorts. If shareholder confidence (percieved value)is that important Rufus better be pounding the pavement (with good PR's, not interviews!) harder next week than he did this week. A big fat juicy 10k would help!
Posted by Sandusky on :
Sorry for dupe...froze, refreshed, who knows?
Posted by glassman on :
it's happening a lot the last few days...
Posted by sceptor on :
sandusky, recall that he said the pr's would begin after the completion of the merger. Everything is designed to support a healthy share price. The 10k, the squeeze, the pr's, the move to nasdaq...
Posted by dollar13 on :
if this is moving to NASDAQ... I think fhal should be pps at $5 at least today...
my opinion...
Posted by dollar13 on :
any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..?
Posted by sceptor on :
thats been one of the claims of bashers for the past 3 weeks. All have been fruitless.
The stock price is where it is simply because there are no audited financials to mull over. when the 10k comes out and the value of cvsu is fully revealed it will trade where it belongs. Rufus thinks it should trade at $30 or better, the bashers hope for $1 or less. The market will pick somewhere in between.
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..?
ANY BODY WITH ENOUGH BRAIN PLEASE...
Posted by BooDog on :
Boo...don't yah love that site? It has most everything!
Posted by BooDog on :
nice 10, I like the short version lol.....short attention span. Posted by dollar13 on :
ok it said that the minimun bid price of the stock must be $5 at least as a requirement...
right?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I've already seen pictures of you...remember with the tiger?.... Fine..Son...you are very handsome... (and since you claim I am your mom...that would mean that you take after your mother....)
well i might wana stop to claim that, because its weird if a mom thinks her son is handsome while he wants to tell her she is also appealing...i dont want this to get awkward lol. you can be my mom here and there, but if i compliment you or put a move on you then you are not related to me anymore lmao
Now you cut that out! Your engaged!!! This is a family website.
[ August 04, 2006, 23:27: Message edited by: MoneyMoneyMoney ]
Posted by BooDog on :
that's a part of it dollar, they must meet at least 1 of the rules minimum requirements. Also see page 11 of 10's link above. There are other coorporate governance rules. I'm still learning all also. 400 shareholders of 100+ shares also...can't count anyone from the company yada yada yada You might look at the delisting rules also. check out the links
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: ok it said that the minimun bid price of the stock must be $5 at least as a requirement...
right?
Yes...but there is more to it than Just $5...the site that Boo gave you is the "short" version...as he said...but the other site gives you all the actual requirements...just because a stock "closes on Monday at $5 does not mean it will qualify for the Nas on Tuesday...there's alot of variables and things that enter into it...
It will be a while before CVSU will be able to go to a higher exchange...if that is what you are looking for...
Posted by dollar13 on :
FHAL wont be in NASDAQ and that $15 rumor that all it is a rumor...
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..?
ANY BODY WITH ENOUGH BRAIN PLEASE...
hey dollar calm down...why don't you go find out for yourself...yes we don't have a brain..hey at least me and 10of13 know when to get out of XKEM lol...are you're still a bag holder in XKEM? .05-.08?..heh 1.07 better then .03..
Posted by 10of13 on :
Dollar...FHAL...going to NASDAQ...is a "goal/desire" stated by Rufas...the $15 is in the 8K...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I went to the nasdaq site 10 of 13 posted and punched in FHAL and the Beta is at -25.09 what is "beta" and does the negative mean undervalued or what??? Thanks guys and gals... just getting caught up here been gone much of the day. I did manage to add to my shares today and have been holding strong for a couple weeks. I'm hopeing and thinking this will materialize! btw I love the knowledge base here and the absense of unnessacary bantering like on some other boards. This is where it's at!
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..?
ANY BODY WITH ENOUGH BRAIN PLEASE...
hey dollar calm down...why don't you go find out for yourself...yes we don't have a brain..hey at least me and 10of13 know when to get out of XKEM lol...are you're still a bag holder in XKEM? .05-.08?..heh 1.07 better then .03..
yep i am a bag holder in XKEM LOL i got more chances
but i wont be a bag holder in FHAL lol" like you"
Posted by dollar13 on :
anyway why you have to bring that up?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Imapoor...beta is an tech indicator...
"Beta values greater than 1 indicate that the price of the security changed by a larger percentage than the market as a whole. Values less than 1 indicate that the price changed by a smaller percentage. Negative values indicate that the price tends to move contrary to the market."
I don't use it so I can't explain...sorry..
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Dollar...FHAL...going to NASDAQ...is a "goal/desire" stated by Rufas...the $15 is in the 8K...
give me a link ,when rufas say that....
Posted by JohnDoe on :
dollar thanks..but i'll take my chances..but just to let you know i have taken out my profit already at 30G and still have 1500K left for the free ride..but you know what? Those are the money that i gain from XKEM. Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Dollar...FHAL...going to NASDAQ...is a "goal/desire" stated by Rufas...the $15 is in the 8K...
give me a link ,when rufas say that....
dollar..I get the feeling you have "something" against me...not to sure what...but right now...saying ; "give me a link, when rufas say that"
Find it yourself...I'm not sure I qualify in the "brain department"...good night...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Thanks again 10... from what I understand according to the link is that because FHAL is such a fast rising stock it is prolly not a very good indicator at this time, but might be helpful we we are reguarly trading a a higher price when we get to the Nasdaq.
Posted by JohnDoe on :
hey 10 did'nt we both have fun with xkem and chdt? We both makes a boat load did'nt we?..and yes we don't have a brain..LOL
Posted by Dreamer0708 on :
FHAL wont be in NASDAQ and that $15 rumor that all it is a rumor...
are you a spychic ? i dont think so, perhaps you should let us find out on our own...
sounds to me like someone isnt in such a good mood by reading the last few post's lol... someone is in a cranky mood.
Good Night!!
Posted by dollar13 on :
i any body ask me right now :
would you buy FHAL OR XKEM ?
i choose XKEM 0.03 ....
FHAL buy at $1 it's a suicide LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
John Doe...Yes it was fun...gotta have fun to make $ IMO...
Imapoor...the way I read the -25...the market was up...and we didn't climb the % that the market did? (but I am guessing) as i said..I don't use them..so i can't help...and thanks for saying thanks...even though I really didn't help much...LOL
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: i any body ask me right now :
would you buy FHAL OR XKEM ?
i choose XKEM 0.03 ....
FHAL buy at $1 it's a suicide LOL
dollar true..i guess you miss the bus..most of us got in at .16 - .25 most of us have already taking out our profitssssssss already..just leave some for the free ride.Now if anyone do their DD would better chosen SLJB better then xkem...lol
PS: i choose SLJB Posted by dollar13 on :
10 i don't have nothing against you but thanks anyway for the the link.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: i any body ask me right now :
would you buy FHAL OR XKEM ?
i choose XKEM 0.03 ....
FHAL buy at $1 it's a suicide LOL
Then why are you over here asking questions and being rude? I really don't want to start turning this into a "nasty", word throwing disagreement...I attempted to help answer your questions...and then you throw this out...I hope the answers will benefite some one when they read this stupidity...Dollar...don't continue...we can all let it go...
If you want the answers...go read the links, the 8k and go listen to the M N 1 . com talks... or mabe someone else will "waste their time"..so you can then make a comment like that...
GLTY! And may your road to riches be challenging... Posted by dollar13 on :
JOHN he is the one than bring XKEM here not me ok..
Posted by JohnDoe on :
10of13: did you know even Purl-Gurl who everyone fears even going on board with SLJB..think she put 30G in SLJB that's gotta tell us something lol this is our next multi bagger after FHAL. Posted by dollar13 on :
i am selling my shares monday you people are rude here .
you can have my shares
GOOD NIGHT
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
are my shares $7 yet .. rufus promised that shares i bought at 0.145 were worth $7.. so i am holding strong .. gud luck to everyone holding.. and dollar.. time for you to whine elsewhere!!!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: 10of13: did you know even Purl-Gurl who everyone fears even going on board with SLJB..think she put 30G in SLJB that's gotta tell us something lol this is our next multi bagger after FHAL.
interesting.... where did you pick that tidbit up?
PG put 30 grand on a pinksheet?
i seriously doubt it unless she posted it somehwere, and then? i would question the authenticity... PG likes audited filings...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
goes to show he is still spouting off ignorant statements. She knows her stuff so I would lend an ear to learn something. She has very good points.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Imapoor...beta is an tech indicator...
"Beta values greater than 1 indicate that the price of the security changed by a larger percentage than the market as a whole. Values less than 1 indicate that the price changed by a smaller percentage. Negative values indicate that the price tends to move contrary to the market."
Sizzzzzzzle crack snapple pop! Ouch She's HOT!
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13: JOHN he is the one than bring XKEM here not me ok..
Look at your past posts...it's you're trying to say bad thing about fhal..lol...ok let's stop.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
in lfwk at 0.045 john.. and yes. i do know 10 holds heckova amount of shares around 0.025 range
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: 10of13: did you know even Purl-Gurl who everyone fears even going on board with SLJB..think she put 30G in SLJB that's gotta tell us something lol this is our next multi bagger after FHAL.
interesting.... where did you pick that tidbit up?
PG put 30 grand on a pinksheet?
i seriously doubt it unless she posted it somehwere, and then? i would question the authenticity... PG likes audited filings...
check out ihub board for SLJB you'll find it and i'm not B/S
Posted by glassman on :
OK, i will...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: 10of13: did you know even Purl-Gurl who everyone fears even going on board with SLJB..think she put 30G in SLJB that's gotta tell us something lol this is our next multi bagger after FHAL.
Did she say this some where? I am surprised at that...and I am not sure it doesn't make me nervous...LOL...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: OK, i will...
Glass...I already showered...would you post it if you find it?...LOL
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by ruskin_muskin: are my shares $7 yet .. rufus promised that shares i bought at 0.145 were worth $7.. so i am holding strong .. gud luck to everyone holding.. and dollar.. time for you to whine elsewhere!!!
R|M....charts..... do you see this dipping? what kind of time frame are you looking at?
Posted by glassman on :
i'll do better than that 10
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by ruskin_muskin: in lfwk at 0.045 john.. and yes. i do know 10 holds heckova amount of shares around 0.025 range
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm sure you will Glass...LMAO!
Posted by JohnDoe on :
10of13: damn it why are you always jump in so hurry what's your trick?lol share with us, i got in at .05:(
Posted by JohnDoe on :
i've got 20k at .05 when it was lfwk and 80k at .08 after symbol change.
Posted by BooDog on :
I'm out. watching the charts.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
Boo.. IMO.. chart seems decent for run. however, too many bashers impacting psych of people holding, which is common. it happened in many stocks .. it will happen every time an oppurtunity for making such quick money would come. IMO it will continue to hold above 1.03 for quiet some time, unless rufus really screws up. if he screws up, then we all drown.. either way, i shall hold to see if $7 becomes reality. I have taken my investment out though, and am riding frees.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
when i bought lfwk at 0.025 and it dipped to 0.017 on one fine friday.. i thought it was going all the way down and i was a bag holder.. lol.. same thought i had with fhal too when i bought it at 0.095 and it would move past 0.085 .. so i guess offlate patience is really paying ..
Posted by 10of13 on :
John...I have been lucky...and I have no secret...when a stock runs...i will try hard to jump in on that run..I don't always make it...but if I do..and I make money off of it...I research the heck out of it..and alot of times...I will leave some free shares there...and yes..it goes red..always does after a run...but if the company looks like it will be good down the road...i just wait...the free shares were never mine until I sold...so i don't look at it as "loosing $"..I never sold..never "mine"...if it runs...if it moves up slowly...great...if not...well...when i sell those shares...it's money..and now it's mine...
Lfwk..had a little run a few months ago...that's when I got in...made bank and flipped...let a portion ride...Luck and patience...
Posted by dollar13 on :
i don't even know why you bring that up
Posted by glassman on :
dollar 13 has issues...
lots of issues everywhere lately...
13 if you were to take breathaliser right now? would you be more or less intoxciated than me? i'm down to tyoing with one finger and one eye closed... i have to hold my typing finger hand bythe wirst with my other hand... LOL
Posted by JohnDoe on :
ruskin_musking wasn't you in xkem too?I know alot of us make a bunch on it.I have nothing against "dollar" i think he break the rules on penny by falling in love with xkem..lol.Me and other people have warn them to get out but no one listen oh well what can we do right? Posted by 10of13 on :
Glass..how many fingers am I holding up?
And are you back from ihub so soon?
Posted by glassman on :
I will leave some free shares there...and yes..it goes red..a
90% of the "free shares" i have held? really are free now...
there was only one or two out of a couple hundred that i am gald i kept free shares...
if you ever ask me again? i will deny this...
but its a fact....
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
yeah.. was in for short bounce time in at 0.03, out at 0.044... i was little on suspicious note on xkem from begining, because ihub pumpers were working hard on it.. didnt know when they would dump.. so when chart showed me end of run.. i exited.. hehe.. i am sure it has little more juice left in it... but am sure, unless raw financials are released, it shall trudge around 0.02-0.03 area..
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Glass..how many fingers am I holding up?
And are you back from ihub so soon?
i went over there and looked...saw 30781 posts... she wasn't on the first four or five pages...
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: ruskin_musking wasn't you in xkem too?I know alot of us make a bunch on it.I have nothing against "dollar" i think he break the rules on penny by falling in love with xkem..lol.Me and other people have warn them to get out but no one listen oh well what can we do right?
why you keep bringing XKEM IN THIS BOARD?????
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
ditto glass Posted by 10of13 on :
Yep..you are right..few will "make it" but lots will eventually have another run...stocks seem to "cycle"...or should I say...MM's seem to cycle... Posted by BooDog on :
I'll be watching. They need to hold shareholder intrest through the next few months. That's not going to be easy. The post merger filing should help me with a better picture. I see a pretty rocky road ahead.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Well glass...you better go shower...LOL
John..if you find that post about PG...will you post it? Not calling you a BSer...just would like to see it...TIA!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: I'll be watching. They need to hold shareholder intrest through the next few months. That's not going to be easy. The post merger filing should help me with a better picture. I see a pretty rocky road ahead.
So Boo you are just following this? I had to stay in...for the learning experience...once I sell completely out of a stock...I tend to leave it and not look back...I will say I am learning alot...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yep..you are right..few will "make it" but lots will eventually have another run...stocks seem to "cycle"...or should I say...MM's seem to cycle...
upcoming splits all the time checking you pennies...
it is good for finding 25%ers tho...
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: dollar 13 has issues...
lots of issues everywhere lately...
13 if you were to take breathaliser right now? would you be more or less intoxciated than me? i'm down to tyoing with one finger and one eye closed... i have to hold my typing finger hand bythe wirst with my other hand... LOL
THANKS glass.
i was asking for info and every body turn around, that is way i am dumping monday f**** this
Posted by glassman on :
dollar? it's friday night...
i don't post buy or sall ratings anyway..
this one is crazy... i missed your question when it was fresh.. i don't blame you for selling at all Posted by BooDog on :
sorry wife and girlfriend were hunting for poison music....I got my piece and sold it. I don't leave shares layin around, Cover yes but for the run, once the run is done...outsies. am watching now. My mind won't stop. Once I'm into something I like to check and follow up. There is potential here. IMO it will take longer than people are saying. By October would be optimistic. Keeping track of this will help me with a couple others I am watching that will be doing the same thing soon.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cool glass...I will keep the link...Thanks...
Posted by glassman on :
no prob... if one has patience? that link is pretty effective...boring, but effective...
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Well glass...you better go shower...LOL
John..if you find that post about PG...will you post it? Not calling you a BSer...just would like to see it...TIA!
You and Glassman want me to post in this thread or the SLJB.I don't wan everyone on my ass for postin diff stock on diff thread?
Posted by glassman on :
LOL JD what's the post number?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yeah..i decided to "get dirty" and went over there...I'm still lookin'...luckily i am just lookin' at the names...not the posts..LOL
Posted by JohnDoe on :
OK, 27123,27052,27038,27022,26964, on ihub SLJB board
Posted by glassman on :
thanx JD...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: OK, 27123,27052,27038,27022,26964, on ihub SLJB board
Thanks...you saved me..LOL
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
not that tough 10, i realised if you search for purl, you will get to her posts easily..
Posted by JohnDoe on :
10of13 and Glassman: now tell me that isn't her...heheheh i recognize her wordings anywhere. Posted by glassman on :
i agree it's her style.... i am shocked about her playing a pink... think i'll drag myself to bed...if i can make it Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
Glass.. interesting link you have posted.. i already bookmarked it a while ago, when you had posted it on NDOL thread, but wasnt using it effectively.. shall do it with more regularity..
Posted by 10of13 on :
RM...i tried...but it says I have to be a member...so it didn't work for me...
John ...it's her...I read the very first one... 26964...this is interesting...you should post the comments on the thread...It would boost the confidence...(as afraid as most are of her...)IMO... and thanks again...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by ruskin_muskin: Glass.. interesting link you have posted.. i already bookmarked it a while ago, when you had posted it on NDOL thread, but wasnt using it effectively.. shall do it with more regularity..
it's a good place to start dd'ing for strong co's....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:]
THANKS glass.
i was asking for info and every body turn around, that is way i am dumping monday f**** this
dollar...sell because that is what you Feel is the best thing to do...not because you are "mad" at posts on the thread...
I apologize if I read your "tone" wrong...
GLTY!
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm goin' to bed all...Sleep well and talk to you later...
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
NITE ALL.. Better Monday for FHAL!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Thanks RM...Night!
Posted by JohnDoe on :
RM: thank you. Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe: RM: thank you.
Posted by MTPromises on :
new2stocks and chartwalker, great time tonight . . . thanks for hanging with me and great to meet you
Posted by cool AZ on :
Food for thought: Listened to some of Kramer at MaD Money last night on my way to San Diego (Xm).
He was talking about sectors and business cycles ... that it's up to 50% of the stocks performance can be infuenced by being basically at the right place at the right time.
What is AISS? I'd think defense is a big sector right now ... as for the cycle, it seems there may not be much of a cycle - just always alot of conflicts going on.
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Thanks RM...Night!
Y'all so thweet. Nighty nite.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
[ August 05, 2006, 10:09: Message edited by: TaxBack04 ]
Posted by maumee river rat on :
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 18:23 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Chartwalker: Sorry I missed today board.... I was busy typing up that PR and sending it in!! LOL KIDDING!! What a wonderful finish. The good old EOD run! ha ~ Thanks Uncle Rufus! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
you call a 2% gain a run at the EOD?
LOL
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 21:56 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by dollar13: any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ANY BODY WITH ENOUGH BRAIN PLEASE...
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 23:35 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by BooDog: start here
FHAL wont be in NASDAQ and that $15 rumor that all it is a rumor...
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 23:57 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by 10of13: Dollar...FHAL...going to NASDAQ...is a "goal/desire" stated by Rufas...the $15 is in the 8K... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
give me a link ,when rufas say that....
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 05, 2006 00:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i any body ask me right now :
would you buy FHAL OR XKEM ?
i choose XKEM 0.03 ....
FHAL buy at $1 it's a suicide LOL
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 05, 2006 00:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i am selling my shares monday you people are rude here .
you can have my shares
GOOD NIGHT __________________________________________________ That last one is my favorate post... I also like the one where you say "GIVE ME A LINK" instead of ...Do you have a link,,,oorrrr can someone GIVE me a link .....oorrrrr PLEASE give me a link.....you know, sumpthin POLITE.
After jumpin in from the get go with nothing but attitude, You say the people are rude...
I say
BUH-BYE NOW!!!! putz
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
lol he said buy xkem... xkem will never pass where its at right now, the more PRs they come out with the more the PPS drops lol... a grown ass dude calling people rude...where did the real men talk go
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO..maumee...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: lol he said buy xkem... xkem will never pass where its at right now, the more PRs they come out with the more the PPS drops lol... a grown ass dude calling people rude...where did the real men talk go
ahem...!! and for the record..I was the one that first called him rude... Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: lol he said buy xkem... xkem will never pass where its at right now, the more PRs they come out with the more the PPS drops lol... a grown ass dude calling people rude...where did the real men talk go
ahem...!! and for the record..I was the one that first called him rude...
well i guess u just got more balls than he does... Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
he said he is going to "dump"...lol. selling 10k shares isnt really dumping cuz someone else will pick them up
Posted by MTPromises on :
some posters have indicated that they have shorted this stock - I was just reviewing the margin account agreement on Scottrade and they do not allow shorting of stocks below $5/share. Which BDs allow shorting of penny stocks?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Off shore brokers allow shorting of penny stocks I believe.
Posted by 10of13 on :
MT..I don't know how this is done...perhaps some of the "old timers" could explain it to you...but it may be better to PM them...IMO...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: some posters have indicated that they have shorted this stock - I was just reviewing the margin account agreement on Scottrade and they do not allow shorting of stocks below $5/share. Which BDs allow shorting of penny stocks?
gotta have mucho dinero.... did some research a while back... you can hire an MM direct if you got the bread....
Posted by wallymac on :
FYI-Since the subject was brought up. I was listening to Subpenny yesterday and Simon, The host, called TDAmeritrade to get some info on stocks that were under restricted trading status. So during his call he asked the agent about shorting. Lo and Behold, the agent stated that TD Ameritrade allows shorting of OTCBB and Pinks. He said not all of them can be shorted but that many can. This policy has been in effect for about 6 months. Interesting wouldn't you say.
Posted by glassman on :
mucho dinero...
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 18:23 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Chartwalker: Sorry I missed today board.... I was busy typing up that PR and sending it in!! LOL KIDDING!! What a wonderful finish. The good old EOD run! ha ~ Thanks Uncle Rufus! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
you call a 2% gain a run at the EOD?
LOL
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 21:56 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by dollar13: any body here know what are the requirements for a OTCBB to get listed in NASDAQ..? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ANY BODY WITH ENOUGH BRAIN PLEASE...
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 23:35 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by BooDog: start here
FHAL wont be in NASDAQ and that $15 rumor that all it is a rumor...
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 04, 2006 23:57 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by 10of13: Dollar...FHAL...going to NASDAQ...is a "goal/desire" stated by Rufas...the $15 is in the 8K... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
give me a link ,when rufas say that....
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 05, 2006 00:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i any body ask me right now :
would you buy FHAL OR XKEM ?
i choose XKEM 0.03 ....
FHAL buy at $1 it's a suicide LOL
dollar13 Member
Member Rated: posted August 05, 2006 00:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i am selling my shares monday you people are rude here .
you can have my shares
GOOD NIGHT __________________________________________________ That last one is my favorate post... I also like the one where you say "GIVE ME A LINK" instead of ...Do you have a link,,,oorrrr can someone GIVE me a link .....oorrrrr PLEASE give me a link.....you know, sumpthin POLITE.
After jumpin in from the get go with nothing but attitude, You say the people are rude...
I say
BUH-BYE NOW!!!! putz
I want my BAH BAH..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: lol he said buy xkem... xkem will never pass where its at right now, the more PRs they come out with the more the PPS drops lol... a grown ass dude calling people rude...where did the real men talk go
ahem...!! and for the record..I was the one that first called him rude...
Ya gotta call a spade a spade.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
im going to DUMP 2 heavy shares on monday so i can screw you all MUAHAHAHA Posted by portman on :
Stock, let me know if you need to borrow the fork lift for those "heavy shares".
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rat... YES I call a stock that was buried that takes off like a rocket in the last hour a good EOD run! lol ~
Good thing I wasn't watching, it was forming a DEcending triangle and a breakout to the bottom WAS on the way!!
But if you all remember I've said that I'M LONG LONG LONG with this baby so the price TO ME doesn't mean much, I've bet that this goes through and I'm sticking to it. Until a 10k tells me it isn't worth it,-which I doubt!!
Nice to see you all in better moods. I bet after that slow decline all day some more bailed, and like I said before, be comfy with what you have on the line. IMO there is nothing more we can do but wait, the DD is done, the game playing will go on and the price will continue to bounce so just get comfy then sit back and watch the show!!!
And what a show it is! This one will make it to the grandkids when the time comes
See you all bright and early Monday morning!!!
Now let's get a 10k and a IPO listing and see just how much this bad boy is gonna make us
Hope you all are enjoying your weekend ~ GLTA!!!!
Posted by cool AZ on :
Chart, I am with you on this deal! I've been involved in about 7 or 8 penny stocks of which only the last 3 I have done well in. I "parlayed" the profits into FHAL. I'm all in on this baby, and you want to know why? I've seen the stocks that are cruising in development, just about to do this or that, etc, etc, etc. ...
For once, I really appreciate being a part of something, despite all our diligence on this one, which really has something going for it. I truly believe there is so much more we will discover in the next few days - hopefully all beyond our imagination. I will truly be shocked if the news is anything to the contrary!
We have looked at every angle and exameined every corner ... if there is anything left to see, lets do it. If not, maybe we should soon start talking more about the true potential to this stock, whatever it may be. Like for instance, what are other similar stocks valued at on the NASDAQ?
It recall hearing something on CNBC about a company of about 2 billion was selling at about $40 pps. Certainly the 10k will help to define this better, but, we do have information to start with which can be recalculated when better information comes out.
It is my observation that we need to be ahead of the game here, especially when we do not know exactly when all this is going to come down - obviously we know it's going to be "as early as Monday". It would sure be nice to have some sort of range of "agreed value" based on best info as to where this stock should rest. At least have a idea of it's potential.
I want to wish good luck to you all! I'am looking forward to the run, change, 10k, halt, run, #, %, *, and $$$. See you all in the trenches!
I'm still in San Diego and heading to LA tomorrow evening - see you all bright and early on Monday from LA. Peace & solitude!
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
i need to swtop drinking
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Rat... YES I call a stock that was buried that takes off like a rocket in the last hour a good EOD run! lol ~
Good thing I wasn't watching, it was forming a DEcending triangle and a breakout to the bottom WAS on the way!!
That is what I was sayen to Mr Personality earlier...
That was a fantastic revovery EOD...It all happened in less than 30 minutes...I call it a RUN...We would hve been down at least 25% without the late day news.. More than likely on the way to .60 monday morning ....I think we are safe now...
Thanks Rufas!!!
Don't screw it up RUFAS!!!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Cool AZ - Where are in you in Arizona ? I'm in Ahwatukee...
Posted by dog on :
Just wanted to say "hey" on a Sunday.... oddly enough I haven't thought about this stock much since Friday. Must be confident. See you all Monday mornin.
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Trying to temper my excitement for tommorrow.
I think though it all will happen Tuesday, but that just my opinion based on the past activity.
GLTA
Posted by portman on :
IMHO...This happens when it does. PPS and trading actions are now pointless to me without new information.
Posted by VoodooNola on :
and pr's that don't preceed 10k's, symbol change, and PPS resetting.
Posted by cassity on :
I'm very disappointed people, I was expecting to get back from my weekend vacation and see our new thread with at least 40 pages. ONLY 14 come-on. Doesn't anyone have any questions about this merger, reverse splits, how are we getting $15 a share? J/K all, glad to see most took a break over the weekend, I was beginning to wonder if you all are as pethetic as me. Hopefully everything is settled this week and we can enjoy life after FHAL. GLTA tomorrow. -Cassity
Posted by CRab on :
Hey you guys really still in this...
OMG...it is SUCH an obvious SCAM...RUN AWAY FAST PEOPLE!!! Posted by VoodooNola on :
People had to take a break, exhaustion was the key word Fri night.It will all pick up Mon and conclude Tues. Hopefully!
GLTA
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Funny Crab! Stay on the westbank!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I'm very disappointed people, I was expecting to get back from my weekend vacation and see our new thread with at least 40 pages. ONLY 14 come-on. Doesn't anyone have any questions about this merger, reverse splits, how are we getting $15 a share? J/K all, glad to see most took a break over the weekend, I was beginning to wonder if you all are as pethetic as me. Hopefully everything is settled this week and we can enjoy life after FHAL. GLTA tomorrow. -Cassity
amen to that, Cassity!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: some posters have indicated that they have shorted this stock - I was just reviewing the margin account agreement on Scottrade and they do not allow shorting of stocks below $5/share. Which BDs allow shorting of penny stocks?
gotta have mucho dinero.... did some research a while back... you can hire an MM direct if you got the bread....
thanks, Glassman . . . so, odds are if someone on here says they're shorting any of these stocks they're probably full of it?
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Yes, full of it!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: some posters have indicated that they have shorted this stock - I was just reviewing the margin account agreement on Scottrade and they do not allow shorting of stocks below $5/share. Which BDs allow shorting of penny stocks?
gotta have mucho dinero.... did some research a while back... you can hire an MM direct if you got the bread....
thanks, Glassman . . . so, odds are if someone on here says they're shorting any of these stocks they're probably full of it?
will not speak for Glass ( or others, for that matter...), but that's *not* my take from reading Glass's posts....
Posted by MTPromises on :
Tex, not suggesting that some people here don't have the "bread" (as Glass puts it) just saying "odds are" they don't
Posted by T e x on :
I *think* we agree...the shorters one should consider are prolly not posting here.
Posted by MTPromises on :
that was my thought - at least, I would have no idea why they would.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
today should be one of the "big" days...at least we can hope so
Posted by Drumdude101 on :
quick question! what actualy will happen....i have shares of FHAL now that it turned in to a new thing will my shares be gone....what is happening please explain!
Posted by VoodooNola on :
I think Tuesday will be bigger, but I'm still up and waiting for the bell!
Runny shorts...ewwww
Posted by VoodooNola on :
quote:Originally posted by Drumdude101: quick question! what actualy will happen....i have shares of FHAL now that it turned in to a new thing will my shares be gone....what is happening please explain!
10k,PR,HALT,SYMBOL CHANGE,PRICE RESET TO ?
Not promised in that order. Your shares are fine, just watch them the next two days. Depending on your broker you might have to call in a sell order.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning People!
Ok, so now we hunt down our 10k, wait for a IPO listing and then get drunk on a tropical island...
So, until that happenes there will be games, price to me right now doesn't mean anything, the question is do we get the symbol change and a reset?
EVERYTHING is pointing to the reset!!! STILL LONG! GLTA ~
Posted by MTPromises on :
glad to see everyone laid low this weekend and relaxed
well, this should be the week - good or bad - we should know where we stand
Posted by liquidmetal on :
Rufus is just sitting down to some champagne prime rib and eggs this morning. In a couple hours he is going to push that big red button at his desk and make me wealthy. Any predictions this morning? Are we going to see the price reset today?
Posted by coalkickin on :
no...it will happen after hours....
Posted by sceptor on :
wasnt that just a prediction? LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I may be wrong but I believe we need a 10k filed and then a IPO listing for the price to reset.
We may or may not have an interesting week. Doesn't Rufus have untill the end of August to file the 10k???
I'm hoping once the 10k comes out that Rufus will start with a parade of PR's also to help support the $15 share price.
I just wonder what he all has on his desk and how he's going to play his cards.... -cause you KNOW he's planning this, this is what he's been waitting for... -to take his baby to the market!
So as far as predictions... -anything goes IMO!
GLTA
Posted by MTPromises on :
Chartwalker - did you get my PM?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Good morning all... ready for a big week?
I just want enough profits to pay for gas. And with the way things are looking... that is alot of profits!
TB
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: Chartwalker - did you get my PM?
Yep!
Nice party MT, next time we meet may our pockets be stuffed ~ Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Waiting and watching...Not patiently but what can I do?
15 minutes till ?
Posted by portman on :
Lost me L2s on TDA for FHAL...obviously something is different.
Posted by MTPromises on :
premarket 5 x 1.07 on the ask the bids have loaded up at 5 x 1.065
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
no symbole change yet, i thought the pr said monday, or...as early as monday
Posted by RyanPBF on :
morning everyone let's here's looking for a good week.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: no symbole change yet, i thought the pr said monday, or...as early as monday
PR was that we have the symbol.... It's not going to the market till after the 10k is filed and it gets on the IPO list ~
Posted by MTPromises on :
all the asks at 1.07 dropped now 1 x 1.08 2 x 1.09
Posted by unclerudy on :
What does the premarket L2's look like?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm not expecting the symbol change yet Dean. I think they did say as early as monday, but we know how those as early as come to fruition.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
But I sure like seeing the price jump up even if I'm not flipping Posted by 10of13 on :
up tic!
Posted by MTPromises on :
now 4 x 1.09
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Yep Chart it makes waiting a lot easier when you see the price climb doesn't it.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
so we pretty can wait as much as the last day of August to see the 10k. If thats the case, from here to whenever the 10k comes out, i HOPE this will be trading sideways
Posted by MTPromises on :
2 x 1.10
Posted by RyanPBF on :
some big blocks went through at 1.10
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Yep Chart it makes waiting a lot easier when you see the price climb doesn't it.
oh yeah ~ even with riding through the symbol IPO I still do hate it when she falls. I know I say I don't worry about the price, -but yet I do feel the burn when she falls but I've told myself that it won't effect me emotionally... But it still does! ha ~
BUT I'M LONG! Have a good one MT ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
just a shake or are they trying to really bring us down again?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
-as long as someone will sell for a low price it will fall. IMO this will make the stock stronger in the long term, Rufus seems to have alot going for him. Get comfy, we'll get to where we want to be IMO. But we have to ride this out to get there...
This week should really test your "traders gut"
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I agree I've been on this roller coaster since early-mid June. I actually believe that this will go much higher. No one knows how high but if they are sitting on some blockbuster pr's and maybe signed contracts plus a possible move to NASDAQ I can't even attempt to put a price on this.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: -as long as someone will sell for a low price it will fall. IMO this will make the stock stronger in the long term, Rufus seems to have alot going for him. Get comfy, we'll get to where we want to be IMO. But we have to ride this out to get there...
This week should really test your "traders gut"
Well, maybe i should invest a little bit i whoever makes Tums then.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I agree I've been on this roller coaster since early-mid June. I actually believe that this will go much higher. No one knows how high but if they are sitting on some blockbuster pr's and maybe signed contracts plus a possible move to NASDAQ I can't even attempt to put a price on this.
just put 15 on the price, im pretty sure thats PLENTLY for all of us, lets just hope one day VERY soon we see that on the ask and stay there for couple days at least
Posted by CRab on :
seems to be alot of support at 1.07
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: -as long as someone will sell for a low price it will fall. IMO this will make the stock stronger in the long term, Rufus seems to have alot going for him. Get comfy, we'll get to where we want to be IMO. But we have to ride this out to get there...
This week should really test your "traders gut"
Well, maybe i should invest a little bit i whoever makes Tums then.
ha... I like Rolaids myself! Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by CRab: seems to be alot of support at 1.07
support as in a lot of sells
Posted by fifteen on :
yeah...didn't llast to long, lol...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Comforting thought... We are at right around a dollar, after the IPO I really don't know what will happen, yes I think they can adjust the price and IMHO I DO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SELL WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO FOR MORE THEN A DOLLAR!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus is on record saying $15! -and he thinks his company is worth double that right now, "and" he even thinks it will hit triple digits...
Our D & D people here seem to think the same IMO.
With Governmental contracts (remember his new board members this may be possible.
This is why I tell myself (not by choice:) that the price right now doesn't matter. I can't see this thing selling for a poultry $2-3 once we IPO.
So chill ~ "IT'S ALL GOOD ~" Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
2 - 3 bucks would be a big desapointment, i dont even wnat it to 'climb' up to 3....i want an open at 15 off the bat and stay at that price for couple of days...if it "climbs" to couple bucks, we will get so much sell offs it might just not be healthy
Posted by cool AZ on :
Uncle Smelly Member
Member Rated: posted 08-06-2006 11:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cool AZ - Where are in you in Arizona ? I'm in Ahwatukee...
I'm in Burbank right now, but live in Fountain Hills. Good to know your in the neighborhood, so to speak. GLTY&A
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...are you around? See anything in your charting worth noting?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
But that's what I mean... Even at $2 profits DOUBLE for a buck, and I don't think anyone see's it falling to that!!!
I think $10-$15 will be the deal cause scared money will dump, but Rufus said he has institutional investors at $15.... So who knows what will fly.
But IMHO, it WILL BE MORE then what it is now! HOLD'EM! IMO ~
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I just found the short interest...Doesn't really seem like it's that much.
FHAL FRONTHAUL GROUP INC OTCBB/Pink Sheets
07/2006
45,105 short 2,128,542 daily volume
Posted by vinnie1 on :
Hmmmmmmmm seems to easy 2 or 3 would be more like it.my thoughts
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It can get into the mid to low .90's without killin the long term picture 10....
I would like it to make an effort to stay above .95
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: It can get into the mid to low .90's without killin the long term picture 10....
I would like it to make an effort to stay above .95
At an APEX now with the 1 min... -looks like a break to the up will come. -hey there it is
-but will it last?..
Posted by ruthie on :
Sure would love to see it get up to at least a couple points above where we closed at friday (1.07) and stay above that point..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: It can get into the mid to low .90's without killin the long term picture 10....
I would like it to make an effort to stay above .95
Thank you sir...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Not sure Chart walker...
We will get a boat load of little swings untill the big news...IMO
I'm basing my levels on the daily and weekly charts...Those are the support and resistance levels that I am concerned with now...
I'm not flippen this, so I could really care less what the little intraday swings do...You know what I mean??
It keeps my nerves at bay too...LOL
Posted by ruthie on :
Gotta get away from this computer for awhile and hopefully when I check it next I will be seeing some upward movement.. See ya'll later.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Not sure Chart walker...
We will get a boat load of little swings untill the big news...IMO
I'm basing my levels on the daily and weekly charts...Those are the support and resistance levels that I am concerned with now...
I'm not flippen this, so I could really care less what the little intraday swings do...You know what I mean??
It keeps my nerves at bay too...LOL
I hear you ~ Since I'm long no matter what, I'm just practicing daytrading flips... passes the time Posted by dog on :
Yes... flippin is risky if you see the long view. Could get ya shut out!
Posted by fifteen on :
even if people are flipping here though...it would be kinda hard to miss out...
i mean, I seriously doubt that the stock will be halted before some sort of news comes out...in fact i would think news HAS to come out...enabling all that wish to get in...
now...i don't even have an opinion as to how high or low this could go upon worthwhile news being released...but people should have time...
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
ouch
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO..it falls this hard on this volume????
Posted by cassity on :
We will see a huge move towards the end of day. A lot of people believe that tomorrow could be the big day. I truely hope so, but I'll be waiting all week. This has been a flippers dream, but I'm to lazy. GLTA
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO..it falls this hard on this volume????
We're OK.....Low to mid .90's now....Must stay above .95 EOD...MO
Support on an asending line
Posted by thisisboring on :
which chart are you looking at when drwing that ascending line Maumee?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
If it does break below the .90's....Nextlevel just above .80... then around .55....That would suck....
Weekly and Daily charts ....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO..it falls this hard on this volume????
We're OK.....Low to mid .90's now....Must stay above .95 EOD...MO
Support on an asending line
Just seems like MM's tricks...volume is fairly low...but I guess it could flippers...
Posted by thisisboring on :
oh ok thanks...wasn't sure if it was the 60min or something like that...
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO..it falls this hard on this volume????
We're OK.....Low to mid .90's now....Must stay above .95 EOD...MO
Support on an asending line
Just seems like MM's tricks...volume is fairly low...but I guess it could flippers...
Most trades are going through at the ask and the pps drops = MM manipulation
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: oh ok thanks...wasn't sure if it was the 60min or something like that...
I'm watchen intra day too...
Like I said earlier...I'm not flippen this, so I'm not gunna torture mt heart with the little intraday moves..
As long as we stay in the long term perameters...I'm cool with it
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
It is tempting to jump in and out though. I'm thinking about it.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
That 50K trade at 1.02 was just a couple bucks, eh?... About 5 cents over the ask too...hmmmm
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote: "I would like to thank each and every sustaining shareholder for their support. All business should move in an expeditious manner from this point forward," stated Rufus Paul Harris.
Anyone else feeling a bit less than expidited? Grass has grown 0.0005mm this morning. 618 SEC Filings this morning and none of any major interest...
TB
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: It is tempting to jump in and out though. I'm thinking about it.
Keeps moven like this and I will be joinen ya...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by thisisboring on :
P Rowds wanna call Rufy, lol? get a little progress report perhaps...
oh wait even better...why don't the boys over at M N 1 give him a call...that always seems to help us out...
on a side note QUIN seems to be working this pretty hard today...
Posted by thisisboring on :
an interesting read on ihub...a bunch of bud750's posts from yesterday...
he seems to have an in somehow...or he's very creative, lol...
Yep, interesting.
Posted by new2stocks on :
yes that was interesting to read.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I will say that if Rufas has the nards to open this thing at $21 or $28 then $15 may just be a decent settle price if the numbers on the 10K add up. $15 will seem like a bargain, especially if he can show a possible $30 value through contract and spin-offs.
TB
Posted by new2stocks on :
Who is "Bud" anyway?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Who is "Bud" anyway?
He's My BEST FRIEND!!!
We get close about a dozen times a day!!!
Starting around 4:00p/m
Posted by new2stocks on :
ummm that's a little too much info maumee, but thanks for sharing.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: $15 will seem like a bargain, especially if he can show a possible $30 value through contract and spin-offs.
TB
This was repeated by Rufus a couple of times.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I never share My BUD with anyone.......b.y.o.b
Bring Your Own BUD!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
oh THAT Bud.....
Posted by thisisboring on :
haha...Bud...Bud Light...Budweiser...a popular spirit now-a-days...
there ya go Maumee...I layed it out for ya...so people wouldn't get the wrong idea or anything, lmao...
oh...and I have no clue who Bud750 is...could be Rufus' house keeper for all i know...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Actually I like BYOBB.
Where's BB? Off jetsetting or at the spa again?
Posted by new2stocks on :
lmao
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ummm that's a little too much info maumee, but thanks for sharing.
he has very "little" to share... Posted by thisisboring on :
ohhhhhh....BUUUUUUUUUURN!!!
haha...so when is recess?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: oh THAT Bud.....
The kid is Quick!!! Gotta foul mind ....but quick!!! LOL
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I never share My BUD with anyone.......b.y.o.b
Bring Your Own BUD!!
LMAO! Hate it when people want me to share my BUD. I think BUD is also good friends with Mary Jane!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: ummm that's a little too much info maumee, but thanks for sharing.
he has very "little" to share...
No thanks to you there Razor Lips!!
Posted by thisisboring on :
but seriously...when is recess...i'm craving a juice box...
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...You're just jealous of the 10" Johnson
Posted by Synastar on :
bud750 = attention whore IMHO
EDIT: Not that my humble opinion is worth much... Posted by thisisboring on :
could be...everything he states is just a confident rehash of information that has already been stated...
Posted by djg7 on :
I'll get some some more at the next dip. I think it's worth the risk at this point.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO...You're just jealous of the 10" Johnson
'specially when it's on a girl..
Oh!! How do you like those new Non-Chafing Straps they put on that thing? And the new colors???? Matches your eyes.....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
With talk like this we may need a credit card to stay in here!! lol ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
I didn't know they had green ones...guess I'll have to go shoppin'...
Speakin' of green...we seem to be stayin' above a buck
Posted by sceptor on :
nasd, 203-375-9609. Call and see what you can find out.
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: P Rowds wanna call Rufy, lol? get a little progress report perhaps...
oh wait even better...why don't the boys over at M N 1 give him a call...that always seems to help us out...
on a side note QUIN seems to be working this pretty hard today...
sorry guys just checkin in... no time to do anything... sorry:( runnin all over green bay right now.... bbl...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Didn't really want to push that any farther ...Did ya 10?
No punn on the PUSH thing
Posted by djg7 on :
I got in at he bid 1.025.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Didn't really want to push that any farther ...Did ya 10?
Did you really need to use the word PUSH?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I'm gunna go grab a smoke...
later
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Looked like a reverse head and shoulders set off this latest little run Starting to look like a classic uptrend! But on a down side it is just in the minute charts... BUT.. that is where trends start Posted by maumee river rat on :
Watchen this chit is much like Flogging ones self, today..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'm gunna go grab a smoke...
later
Het Rat, is your house on fire or what?!! I'm seeing a big smoke cloud by your place on Doppler radar! LMAO! ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO...You're just jealous of the 10" Johnson
Buwhaaa?! tsk tsk!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sorry Sir Cat! My last name is Johnson...and maumee made mention of putting the " after my screen name 10...and adding my last name...his fault..not mine...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'm gunna go grab a smoke...
later
Het Rat, is your house on fire or what?!! I'm seeing a big smoke cloud by your place on Doppler radar! LMAO! ~
Not Funny man....Last fall I woke up about 11:00p/m only to see abot 2 acres of woods on Fire...It was only about 10 ft from the barn and already had the tires on the mower burnen'...Hell of a thing to wake up too... another 10 minutes of snooz time,it would have had the truck on fire ..That surely would have lit the gas tank ...the house and ME.....
You ever see a Polock do an Irish Clogg dance in the woods, in his underware,in the middle of the nite???? Not pretty....I assure you..
Crazy thing is that when the Fire dept got here,and when they ran out of water, .. They asked Me where the nearest Fire Plug was,,,,
That will make ya sleep well at nite..LOL
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sorry Sir Cat! My last name is Johnson...and maumee made mention of putting the " after my screen name 10...and adding my last name...his fault..not mine...
Nice recovery! With finger pointing and all!! LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
"You ever see a Polock do an Irish Clogg dance in the woods, in his underware,in the middle of the nite????"
Thanks for the visual buddy!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
It's getting pretty heated over on Ihub again. And Rat I'm Polish and Irish so I've done that just not in the woods or in my underwear for that matter I was actually in a kilt.
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
LOL * "Mr."
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I can almost hear the music playing.......
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Had that fire gotten any bigger 10, You would have been able to see it (the dance that is.)LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'm gunna go grab a smoke...
later
Het Rat, is your house on fire or what?!! I'm seeing a big smoke cloud by your place on Doppler radar! LMAO! ~
Not Funny man....Last fall I woke up about 11:00p/m only to see abot 2 acres of woods on Fire...It was only about 10 ft from the barn and already had the tires on the mower burnen'...Hell of a thing to wake up too... another 10 minutes of snooz time,it would have had the truck on fire ..That surely would have lit the gas tank ...the house and ME.....
You ever see a Polock do an Irish Clogg dance in the woods, in his underware,in the middle of the nite???? Not pretty....I assure you..
Crazy thing is that when the Fire dept got here,and when they ran out of water, .. They asked Me where the nearest Fire Plug was,,,,
That will make ya sleep well at nite..LOL
well, I guess we can have a laugh at that now that things turned out alright. You running around in your underwear gives BURNING BUSH a new meaning tho ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Had that fire gotten any bigger 10, You would have been able to see it (the dance that is.)LOL
Well..some things are better off unseen...and some are just to "small" to see... Posted by thisisboring on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: well, I guess we can have a laugh at that now that things turned out alright. You running around in your underwear gives BURNING BUSH a new meaning tho ~ [/qb]
now THAT is a visual no one wants,lol...thanks for that...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
I had hoped for a PR of some sort today...I loosing patience...ARGH!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I hear ya ....It was pretty funny after I got it under control...I just wake up from a long day of drinkin Still sportin one hell of a buzz...do the clogg dance.... singin Johnny Cash...Burn Burn Burn...The ring of fire , the ring of fire...... Wish In had it on video...
I supose that "Chestnuts roasting on an open fire" may have been a better musical choice, At the time, X-mas was only a couple months off..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Well in that case walker I'm sure rat was the Belle of the ball. Posted by Chartwalker on :
hey ~ Stochastic is showing we "could" start an upswing here ~ Let's see ~
Posted by coalkickin on :
I have a question...rufus said that he has investors lined up to support the bid at $15.00...correct? Why would someone wait to buy at 15 when they could buy at 1.00 today? Am I missing something?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Well in that case walker I'm sure rat was the Belle of the ball.
I must say, up till now I never heard of a hot SACK lunch before! lol ~~~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: I have a question...rufus said that he has investors lined up to support the bid at $15.00...correct? Why would someone wait to buy at 15 when they could buy at 1.00 today? Am I missing something?
Yea, thats a popular question. A lot of holes in that there plan
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: I have a question...rufus said that he has investors lined up to support the bid at $15.00...correct? Why would someone wait to buy at 15 when they could buy at 1.00 today? Am I missing something?
I believe those type of investors have to wait for the symbol change, I don't think they can buy Pinks... This is only my guess ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Haha, this thing is moving .001 at a time now?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Possibly restricted shares in exchange for part of the company? Kind of like long term bonds?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: I have a question...rufus said that he has investors lined up to support the bid at $15.00...correct? Why would someone wait to buy at 15 when they could buy at 1.00 today? Am I missing something?
Or it could be that they are willing to put in the 15 IF he pulls this off...some have indicated that it could go much higher...$60 and up...and I am just guessing as the rest of you are...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Well in that case walker I'm sure rat was the Belle of the ball.
I must say, up till now I never heard of a hot SACK lunch before! lol ~~~
You gettin hungry there Chartwalker??
Posted by new2stocks on :
how do we know that they aren't buying it now?
Posted by thisisboring on :
the way he presented it...i just saw it as the institutions or whoever...are probably waiting for certain perameters to be crossed...like a price...or audited financials for instance filed, lol...
or...they could already be buying...
and of course...i'm guessing like everyone else...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: hey ~ Stochastic is showing we "could" start an upswing here ~ Let's see ~
Now even though I can call things like this all day long, I still get people telling me that charts are BS.... Thank goodness there aren't any of those here....
I believe if someone truly thinks that, they just don't know what they are doing... -case in point.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Well in that case walker I'm sure rat was the Belle of the ball.
I must say, up till now I never heard of a hot SACK lunch before! lol ~~~
You gettin hungry there Chartwalker??
LMAO.... not for that! Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: did you at least have boots on to complete the outfit rat?
Volume seems to completely have dried up.
Yep! -and with his best TUBE TOP and hand cuffs on! LMAO ~
Well in that case walker I'm sure rat was the Belle of the ball.
I must say, up till now I never heard of a hot SACK lunch before! lol ~~~
You gettin hungry there Chartwalker??
He wanted to know if the nuts were salted or unsalted. Posted by vinnie1 on :
Hmmmmmmmm YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE,WELL YOU KNOW THE REST.i hope it works out for every one in this
Posted by 10of13 on :
Charts are BS...
(Sorry I had to)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Charts are BS...
(Sorry I had to)
-never thought that today we'd be talking about Rat's twing and berries... Who started this anyway? ha ~
Posted by thisisboring on :
wait is Rufus selling berries? i wasn't paying attention?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumme did!
-never thought that today we'd be talking about Rat's twing and berries... Who started this anyway? ha ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I have the bid and ask at !.01, yet 3 buys came thru... wth?..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by vinnie1: Hmmmmmmmm YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE,WELL YOU KNOW THE REST.i hope it works out for every one in this
For most of us this already has... but thanks for the concern.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
if nothing comes out tomorrow who thinks that the market is really going to react badly?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
By the sound on "the street" this is going to be an interesting week IMO Posted by RyanPBF on :
are you hearing something Walker. Outside of everything we know already
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: are you hearing something Walker. Outside of everything we know already
Nothing new.. I always share... Just more talk like that link that was provided a page or so ago... Did you read it?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: are you hearing something Walker. Outside of everything we know already
\The Voicesssss..... some one STOP THE VOICCESSSS!!!!!AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: are you hearing something Walker. Outside of everything we know already
\The Voicesssss..... some one STOP THE VOICCESSSS!!!!!AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
LMAO! ~~~~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
About bud? if that's the one I read it. I just think it's really getting into cruch time for when investors are going to start to lose confidence quickly if they don't start seeing stuff get filed. Right now on Ihub they are really attacking the audited financials. Here's a link to at least one.
"\The Voicesssss..... some one STOP THE VOICCESSSS!!!!!AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! "
Maumee...when you went out to have a smoke a little bit ago...exactly what was in it?
Posted by djg7 on :
Maummee, if the smoke is good chit pass it my way.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
last think I need is to be paranoid too.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Everyone has questions... That's why the bottom line is the 10k.
We all wait for Rufus to throw us a bone. If that looks good, I'm doing this full time
I think some things happened to Rufus personally, cause he standing up and yelling, and when there is a scam you just don't do things like he did, so public, JMO ~
But that's the million dollar question, or for me 6 digit question
I think we're fine ~ And I'll think that till the 10k tells me otherwise ~ GLTA ~
Posted by portman on :
Once a thread on IHUB reaches the "Springer" threashold I stay away.
That particular IHUB post reference has been delt with in previous DD here some 50-100 pages ago. I don't think I will rehash it.
I don't care what teh pps is today unless it goes low enough for me to want to buy more.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Even IHUB has slowed to a crawl today. Im used to seeing hundreds of posts an hour but today is just idle chat. Mostly just people idolizing Bud or vice versa. At least everyone has someone to believe in or yell at if need be. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Agreed chartwalker... 10K needs to be released. I am not leaving till I see it is not comming.
I have a vice grip on my slips till then and if it shows... till I see a spin-off. OK I may let loose a few to buy me a bottle of that scotch, but after that AISS spin-off.
TB
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm not going anywhere either I've been here since .095 range. I'm way up right now.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
So just for giggles where do we all think this will go today via the typical eod run? I know it doesnt matter to any of us but what else do we do now that we haev run out of things to DD?
Ok, ill say... 1.0750
edit : Dont get me wrong, a new HOD is reasonable but i think regardless it will nestle into the 1.07 range afterwards. Based on what we see almost every day!
Posted by 10of13 on :
and do we have a small jog?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Posted by 10of13 on :
guessing..1.09
Posted by Chartwalker on :
-Right in the same boat with ya guys... My lowest and biggest buy in was at .10, flipped it that first time then bettered my position and bought in again at .18
So yeah I feel the burn when she drops, and smile when she gets wings
--So any guesses on what the EOD run may bring?...
Posted by mnvestor on :
EOD 1.105
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a stick and see what happens..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
EOD $1.07
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a sick and see what happens..
not nice!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: EOD $1.07
wtf is this price is right? You under bid me a half a penny!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a stick and see what happens..
I have to have a guarantee of at least 15.00. Unless you're in you Irish Clogg dancing outfit then I'll take a free poke in the eye with a stick Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: EOD $1.07
wtf is this price is right? You under bid me a half a penny!
Gonna laugh if I get that one right too! -would be my first one Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
1.065 LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a stick and see what happens..
I have to have a guarantee of at least 15.00. Unless you're in you Irish Clogg dancing outfit then I'll take a free poke in the eye with a stick
YOUR FREAKIN ME OUT MANNNN!!!!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a stick and see what happens..
I have to have a guarantee of at least 15.00. Unless you're in you Irish Clogg dancing outfit then I'll take a free poke in the eye with a stick
That's the first thing that has made sense to me today!
Posted by thisisboring on :
.0001 Posted by ruthie on :
guessing... 1.10
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I turned away for half a second and it jumps up .03 what was that
Maybe we should poke you in the eyes with a stick and see what happens..
I have to have a guarantee of at least 15.00. Unless you're in you Irish Clogg dancing outfit then I'll take a free poke in the eye with a stick
YOUR FREAKIN ME OUT MANNNN!!!!
meaning I didn't want to be able to see you in that outfit.
Posted by djg7 on :
EOD 1.055.
Posted by new2stocks on :
orignally posted by #3139 barczyk HSM Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The liberal hell of Upstate NY Posts: 36 Ok... I just got off the phone with someone at the Office of Filings and Information Services at the SEC. I first asked about Furia filing any S-4 of 10K recently and it not being updated on the website. He said, "Not that I can see here." I asked how long it should take to be updated on the searchable EDGAR database and he said, "Should be there as soon as they accept the filing". I said ok... could they have flied under a new name, and gave them the list of possible names/symbols and he said, "nope, can't see any of those here".
I did a little more DD checking out filings that have been accepted. All the filings I see that have been accepted all had filing dates of the SAME DAY.
I want this thing to happen as much as the rest of you, but RPH needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat pretty soon or it's going to scare a bunch of people off.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
LMAO!!! I know what you meant ryan...I was freakin out because I did see me in that outfit..LOL
Posted by tyleemary on :
EOD .985
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am guessing higher... Just because I think Rufas will release something 1 hour before EOD again today. (Which is any minute now) If it does not happen then I say 1.09, but if there is news 1.24.
Posted by ruthie on :
That would be good news indeed TaxBack04!!!!!
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
holly sh|t, i was taking a nap, i had a dream this was at 7.5 because it fell from 15 when i was sleeping and i tried to sell then it fell to 6 dollars...what a nightmare
Posted by maumee river rat on :
1.04 no news
1.175 with news
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: holly sh|t, i was taking a nap, i had a dream this was at 7.5 because it fell from 15 when i was sleeping and i tried to sell then it fell to 6 dollars...what a nightmare
That's a nightmare?!!!! Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
if news is only going to put it at that level maumee, then that news just blows, because it will just come back to a buck the day after.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: holly sh|t, i was taking a nap, i had a dream this was at 7.5 because it fell from 15 when i was sleeping and i tried to sell then it fell to 6 dollars...what a nightmare
That's a nightmare?!!!!
yes because i had missed the 15 tag price Posted by maumee river rat on :
Yup!!! Anything they release today will be a feather pillow PR... Somethin like RUFAS SAYS HOWDY!!!
This will be unpredictable with sumpthin solid
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah know what you mean... I always am afraid of selling my shares in my sleep. I know it is not a good idea to wake a sleep walker, but I told my wife to use a baseball bat if she sees me trading in my sleep. Posted by Chartwalker on :
EOD might start ~
Posted by thisisboring on :
i'm thinking it runs up over ten...then drops back in the morning again with no PR...to much anticipation by to many people not wanting to miss out...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, EOD predictions aside here is my second prediction.
If we get news before close today, everyone will hold and see what happens next.
If we dont get news before close today, everyone will hold and see what happens next.
The man sure has us by the jibblets
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: EOD might start ~
??? Well EOD will start sometime...???
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Leave walker alone. I thought that was a pretty strong observation 10!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey walker!!! Can you let us know when it's over too???hehehe
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee you thought?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Chart is right... Need some buyers Posted by 10of13 on :
Walker...we're playing...well I am...Maumee might really need you to tell him...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
HUH??
Posted by Chartwalker on :
everything is in place...... -maybe a drum roll?.. -with Rufus!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I can't wait for this thing to go. I mean I hope everyone makes a ton of money. I just think it'll be amazing to watch all of the action that would accompany a move like this.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Agreed Ryan...that's why I am staying...it's a learning tool...Wanting to see how it all turns out...and hopefully make $$$
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I can't wait for this thing to go. I mean I hope everyone makes a ton of money. I just think it'll be amazing to watch all of the action that would accompany a move like this.
Maybe this is all the action? We are all going nuts over something that has not happenned yet.
CHILL!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I'd be happy with a jelly roll ....I'm hungry
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I can't wait for this thing to go. I mean I hope everyone makes a ton of money. I just think it'll be amazing to watch all of the action that would accompany a move like this.
Yea, like this small group of us keeping the thread open to talk about where our new thousands are going?
Nothing earth shattering here. A very large chunk is going towards things im tired of paying on.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'd be happy with a jelly roll ....I'm hungry
Munchies!! LMAO!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'd be happy with a jelly roll ....I'm hungry
i could say so many things....
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'd be happy with a jelly roll ....I'm hungry
Munchies!! LMAO!
Haha yup, not long after the smoke the jelly rolls come to mind. So, you never said...how did that fire start anyway? Did jelly donuts come after the irish jig?
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO..Chart...I was trying to refrain
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I believe it was an omlett
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...why is it that you get "picked" on in every thread that you are on? LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
too funny people Posted by RyanPBF on :
let's see things I'm tired of paying for. If this goes let's say to the $15 mark. I'd be able to pay my house off and be able to upgrade my house substantially. If it goes where some people dream about I'll be retired at the ripe old age of 31 woohoo
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Trouble makers everywhare....The society is doomed!!
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
if it goes to 15$ ill be able to pay off my 42,000 hospital bill! KICK 4SS !
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Anyone see the NEW Corvette's?... Whoa ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: let's see things I'm tired of paying for. If this goes let's say to the $15 mark. I'd be able to pay my house off and be able to upgrade my house substantially. If it goes where some people dream about I'll be retired at the ripe old age of 31 woohoo
Yea, if i play this correct i should be able to pay off anything that carries an interest rate. No retirement in the near future but at leat my paycheck would be going towards moving someday. I drive 52 miles one way to work and with gas prices where they are today i would benefit a lot from moving.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Anyone seen my bowl??
Posted by RyanPBF on :
new vette that'd be nice I just bought my wife a new mini-van. You think she'll buy the well you have a new van dear it's only fair I get the new vette lol.
Posted by Financial_Engineer on :
Is it too late to get in on this thing before it goes to $15??
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by Financial_Engineer: Is it too late to get in on this thing before it goes to $15??
send me the money, ill talk to some MMs for u to get in.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Anyone seen my bowl??
-saw a "cup and handle" earlier...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
ear..earrr...hit diss...ear,ear
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Q. Can I change my EOD?... LOL ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Financial_Engineer: Is it too late to get in on this thing before it goes to $15??
Well, in theory....until this thing halts its possible to get in. But, as for the $15....we are all as hopeful as you.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
below a dollar we are headead >_<
Posted by ruthie on :
Maybe I should change my EOD price guess too...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: below a dollar we are headead >_<
no... coming around again IMO weak, but coming around ~ 50/50 shot
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Ya!! you may be right Dean....My first guess for EOD was 94....I didn't want to post it..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
me too... new EOD guess... hmmm I say 4:00PM EST.
Posted by ruthie on :
Allright, It is time to get this price out of this rut before EOD>>
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I'll stand bye my firsyt guess....What did I say??
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
im alwyas right u bunch of beetches
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Maybe that $1 theory is being tested. The theory that "someone" is keeping it above a buck every day for whatever reason. Maybe to show consistent over $1 closes for a period of time? Again....theory.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I'll stand bye my firsyt guess....What did I say??
You said....
ear..earrr...hit diss...ear,ear
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: im alwyas right u bunch of beetches
Didn't you get hit hard enough in the head last month???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
So much for trying to be positive ~ ha
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: im alwyas right u bunch of beetches
Didn't you get hit hard enough in the head last month???
better than getting hit hard in the 4ss last month, at least i keep my manhood maumee, try that sometime
Posted by maumee river rat on :
hehehe.....dry mouth....can't LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Testy....Testy...LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
talk about wait till the last minute ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
how is it this goes from 1.035 on buys and the next transaction is 1.01 in about 40seconds
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Maybe that $1 theory is being tested. The theory that "someone" is keeping it above a buck every day for whatever reason. Maybe to show consistent over $1 closes for a period of time? Again....theory.
You may be on to something. Do you know how many times I read that a company gets a warning from the SEC because the stock price has fallen below allowable limits for that exchange? They run the risk of getting delisted.
Posted by dog on :
About the same trading volumes again today...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
What was that? bid and ask imediately jumped 2 pennies.
Posted by thisisboring on :
i missed that...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Caught you all later... Posted by maumee river rat on :
see ya...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I will make my new EOD guess in a couple of minutes.
Posted by 10of13 on :
OMG...the thread has gone mad...ear, ear, hit in the head, dry mouth, testy, jumped 2 pennies... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OMG...the thread has gone mad...ear, ear, hit in the head, dry mouth, testy, jumped 2 pennies...
Dont forget "poke you in the eye with a stick"
Posted by thisisboring on :
who is poking who again?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
yeah that one stings a bit
Posted by 10of13 on :
And polish people in skirts...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
and the jelly roll please
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: And polish people in skirts...
Not JUST Polish people now! This is specific to one particular Polish person. Posted by thisisboring on :
30k after hours at 1.0249, lol...
Posted by dog on :
So you think we'll be trading in the AM? Guess so... got to bew a tank day coming the longer this gets drawn out.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
wasn't me....I was in my underware...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
EOD guess 1.03!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Geeze maumee...go change your skirt and get something to eat...and keep your stick out of peoples eyes....and change your under wear!
have a good night all!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I have nice legs I'll have you know Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I have nice legs I'll have you know
Maybe you and Maumee should meet.... Posted by unclerudy on :
And a 10 inch Johnson also...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
10of13 I thought you were leaving? Posted by thisisboring on :
20k at 16:04:11 at 1.023
boy they sure like those crazy three and four place prices ehh?
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
there really needs to be a serious PR, they are being pretty bad with their timings
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
What the hell is the deal with this one...been in long since the beginning, tired of catching up. When are we trading on the new name and the 10Q coming out. I thought it was available today
Posted by new2stocks on :
is everyone sleeping finally?
Posted by thisisboring on :
more like waiting unpatiently...
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
-_-ZZZzzz...
Posted by new2stocks on :
stop snoring, you're gonna wake everyone up!
Posted by thisisboring on :
haha...impatiently rather...
Posted by dog on :
CVSU.com website has changed... Fronthaul financials and press releases not on front page anymore... must be making changes
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: CVSU.com website has changed... Fronthaul financials and press releases not on front page anymore... must be making changes
Im confused, was there a glitch cuz i see them?
Posted by thisisboring on :
yeah i'm getting the same thing as well Mr.Catia...
Posted by new2stocks on :
I see them!
Posted by dog on :
mine not coming in...lemme see again
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
We're silly. We all checked without readin dog's tagline. Posted by dog on :
I've clicked on each of the pages after delting history and cookies.... the Fronthaul page with the graph and newswire releases is not coming up.... doubt it means anything. just wondering if you all are seeing the same thing.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Rufus and his crew had better update us soon or we are going to crash down hard NDOL style. The ONLY reason we are staying above $1 is that the majority of shareholders still 'believe' in this merger...at the first hint something is awry this is over... I really don't know what to think. We've been waiting patiently now and still no 10K or halt.
Patience is going to start wearing thin I fear ! But what the hell, I'm holding my shares, if I lose $ so be it. Made a little cash in ATWT today, enough to pay the rent another month and aviod the street life...
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I've clicked on each of the pages after delting history and cookies.... the Fronthaul page with the graph and newswire releases is not coming up.... doubt it means anything. just wondering if you all are seeing the same thing.
lol, it could mean they have taken the money and run...
Or it could mean update and the 10K and halt.
Who the hell knows at this point, for I all know Rufus and Ben aren't even real people !
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, i deleted cookies, temp files and history but still see the same. However, it was fun trying to find my login and password info since deleting the cookings ruined my relationship with allstocks!
Posted by dog on :
With as much as I have in this (latecomer by most), I'm half tempted to catch a plane to the negotiations site and do some RECON.... photos, bugs, fingerprints, hair samples ... the whole deal. This operation may cost more than the original reported budget. Thus, it is recommended that all shareholders who have gained monetary benefits from the buying and selling of this stock, send their profits via Paypal to the e-mail address below. We will send you progress updates via the PR Newsire. Stay tuned and GODSPEED.
account e-mail: seemedlikeagoodideaatthetime2006*yahoo.com
Posted by dog on :
Sorry for the sabotage CATIA, you may be interested in Operation Fronthauled. SEE ABOVE
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: With as much as I have in this (latecomer by most), I'm half tempted to catch a plane to the negotiations site and do some RECON.... photos, bugs, fingerprints, hair samples ... the whole deal. This operation may cost more than the original reported budget. Thus, it is recommended that all shareholders who have gained monetary benefits from the buying and selling of this stock, send their profits via Paypal to the e-mail address below. We will send you progress updates via the PR Newsire. Stay tuned and GODSPEED.
IF YOU CAN FIND THEM.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: With as much as I have in this (latecomer by most), I'm half tempted to catch a plane to the negotiations site and do some RECON.... photos, bugs, fingerprints, hair samples ... the whole deal. This operation may cost more than the original reported budget. Thus, it is recommended that all shareholders who have gained monetary benefits from the buying and selling of this stock, send their profits via Paypal to the e-mail address below. We will send you progress updates via the PR Newsire. Stay tuned and GODSPEED.
Well, id love to help but i wont have profits til i sell and im not sellin til i see some progress so can ya follow the catch 22 we have here? Posted by dog on :
It's Ok... $20,000 would not have lasted for 2 weeks gambling in Vegas.
Seriously, I could have gotten out anytime and made a little dough, but after exhaustive DD... this one has as good a chance as any of being th White Whale.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, thats what has me here still as well. Other than the 2 basher sites no one can really nail down a good reason for this not to happen. Its holding together regardless of SERIOUS attempts to break it down.
One thing that has never settled well on my mind though. I dont get why Rufus took the time to answer tons of calls and emails so early in the merger plans. I mean, our money meant peanuts at that time. If everything was in place as he has said then it didnt matter at all if fhal holders stuck around or not. I talked to the guy myself and im confused about it. I dont like the idea that i feel "necessary" in the plan. Sure, if he knew we were big money investors then he would take some time to please us, but he knows MOST of us bought a modest amont of shares at a verrrrry low price. If he isnt being so open with us because he needs us then he is just one heck of a Saint.
Ok, thats my weekly mental breakdown. Im over it.....
Posted by dog on :
Exactly. I think he ran into some aspects of this merger that initially had errors and paperwork that needed to be re-submitted. That cusip number problem could have added 3 business days in itself. He kinda stopped talking and posting soon after the M n 1 day of drop.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Anyone know what happened after the Conversion Solutions / Waatle Holdings merger? In the article there is a comment about how (meaning June 2005)its now a publicly listed company under symbol OTC CVSU but as we all know it was privately held when they approached Fronthaul.
I know, i know...i should stop the digging but im headed out for Margaritas and im waiting for the person thats going with me so im bored again.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Yea, thats what has me here still as well. Other than the 2 basher sites no one can really nail down a good reason for this not to happen. Its holding together regardless of SERIOUS attempts to break it down.
One thing that has never settled well on my mind though. I dont get why Rufus took the time to answer tons of calls and emails so early in the merger plans. I mean, our money meant peanuts at that time. If everything was in place as he has said then it didnt matter at all if fhal holders stuck around or not. I talked to the guy myself and im confused about it. I dont like the idea that i feel "necessary" in the plan. Sure, if he knew we were big money investors then he would take some time to please us, but he knows MOST of us bought a modest amont of shares at a verrrrry low price. If he isnt being so open with us because he needs us then he is just one heck of a Saint.
Ok, thats my weekly mental breakdown. Im over it.....
IMO..the phone calls? Rufas needed and hoped for this to really move quite high...if the PPS had moved up and stayed up...the PPS after the merger would have been much closer to the $15...and the chance of it staying at $15 or above...would have had a better chance...now? I don't think that he anticipated the "bad press" affecting the PPS as badly as it did...IMO...if he openly took phone calls and reinforced those callers...then it would stabilize the PPS...I think that it has...but not as high as he had hoped...
Keep in mind..that "he" can still back out of this...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Yea, thats what has me here still as well. Other than the 2 basher sites no one can really nail down a good reason for this not to happen. Its holding together regardless of SERIOUS attempts to break it down.
One thing that has never settled well on my mind though. I dont get why Rufus took the time to answer tons of calls and emails so early in the merger plans. I mean, our money meant peanuts at that time. If everything was in place as he has said then it didnt matter at all if fhal holders stuck around or not. I talked to the guy myself and im confused about it. I dont like the idea that i feel "necessary" in the plan. Sure, if he knew we were big money investors then he would take some time to please us, but he knows MOST of us bought a modest amont of shares at a verrrrry low price. If he isnt being so open with us because he needs us then he is just one heck of a Saint.
Ok, thats my weekly mental breakdown. Im over it.....
IMO..the phone calls? Rufas needed and hoped for this to really move quite high...if the PPS had moved up and stayed up...the PPS after the merger would have been much closer to the $15...and the chance of it staying at $15 or above...would have had a better chance...now? I don't think that he anticipated the "bad press" affecting the PPS as badly as it did...IMO...if he openly took phone calls and reinforced those callers...then it would stabilize the PPS...I think that it has...but not as high as he had hoped...
Keep in mind..that "he" can still back out of this...
Yea, i keep thinking that if certain criteria isnt met he will just give up and move on to the next shell. If everything is legit i could still see him feeling like he is fighting a losing battle.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well wtf....i didnt read this one before either!! This is like Deja friggin Vu!!!!
Cat..IMO...he won't back out and move to the next shell..he would never be able to pull it off if this one falls through...
The only reason I see him not going through...is if he feels the PPS is not going to hold near the $15...it would be better for him financially to say screw it...I'll wait the 9 months and pay the higher fees to get listed on the NASDAQ...
The other factor is the FHAL audited financials..if they are not VERY bad...and they show even a remote possible chance of not being in bankrupt statis...then the deal has to be stopped...because he wouldn't be able to "stop and reset the PPS"...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Well wtf....i didnt read this one before either!! This is like Deja friggin Vu!!!!
keep diggin there Cat..the only thing that you need to find Is an 8K filed for this...not just a PR
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I thought that he said they could not back out of this even if they wanted to. I believe everything is registered in Maryland as being complete. OTCBB also posted that fhal had acquired cvsu. Acquired sounds like a done deal. But how the heck knows anything right now.
Posted by portman on :
A couple fo comments...
When CEOs talk about share price I always figure reality is at 25% - 50% of whatever figure they are talking. If I am good with that number I am in. Therefore, I am in on this.
Yes, Rufus can back out bit it seems like too many items are in motion for that to happen. I think that is a low probability unless the FHAL financials are far worse than what was "sold" to them. Remember they are assuming the debt.
There are any number of points where this can have issues still. Everything has to be just right for the day to be picked and S&P, SEC and NASD to all be happy.
So far, everything has happened just not to our schedule. This all should have been expected to some degree. I at least expected some delay. You just can;t anticipate all the potential issues.
One of my PE investments has been hung up for 6 months at a state level. All sorts of things can happen.
Posted by dog on :
True....this is way far along... hope it means something. Again, profit is profit... that's all I'm looking to see.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hmmmm, well how about the fact that in the article about Conversion solutions and Waatle merging the dates are 2005. Notice, Ben Stanley is the COO of Waatles, Rufus CEO of CVSU. A year earlier they were partnered up in a company called Enhancement Holdings and had the BBANE fiasco. I wish i knew how that timeline was played out.
I need to stop before i convince myself to sell.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
For the love of ___ Rufus is posting on Ihub again! Someone tell him to shutup, he posted this as part of his response; "GODSPEED everyone and stand fast, all is very well and will slowly work through the system"
The "slowly" part has me now convinced this will not happen this week - if at all this month. This thing is one step away from collapse imo. Forget this nonsense, I'm dumping my shares in the am.
Good luck guys I hope you make out well, but I've had it.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cat...I think that most of the "holdings" that they have now were all "acquired" in the same manner...I just haven't been able to find where they actually followed through as far as they have with this one...to me the 8K makes all the difference... and Portman is right..things take time...
Posted by portman on :
sweetsplat: Mr. Harris is gonna call me back and confirm that he will come to paltalk in approximately 3 hours.
I will update as I get more on traders-corner. It's almost like the IHUB board.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Cat...I think that most of the "holdings" that they have now were all "acquired" in the same manner...I just haven't been able to find where they actually followed through as far as they have with this one...to me the 8K makes all the difference... and Portman is right..things take time...
Im not worried about an 8k with the previous merger nor am i concerned how far along they made it. The fact is, the articles are written much like the articles today....with hope and future goals. But, i cant seem to find where any of that materialized. I just wish Rufus was squeeky clean.....i only hope he has just been unlucky!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: sweetsplat: Mr. Harris is gonna call me back and confirm that he will come to paltalk in approximately 3 hours.
I will update as I get more on traders-corner. It's almost like the IHUB board.
Ahhh that might be nice actually. Im off for a few $1 margaritas but hopefully ill be back to see if he shows up.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
The only thing I know is that I won't be looking back someday thinking that was the most idiotic thing I've ever done was sell those FHAL shares right during the dealings and then it shot up.
If I lose 500 bucks so be it. If I make 7000 then thats even better but my chips are in.
Risk what you can afford to lose!!!
[ August 07, 2006, 19:27: Message edited by: MoneyMoneyMoney ]
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Rufus's counsel advised against him coming into paltalk due to "upcoming events"
I just heard that in paltalk.
Ok, im off for some drinks
Posted by portman on :
Ok, Harris' laywer called TC back and indicated he had advised Harris not to go on and discuss upcoming events.
So, it is a no go.
Posted by dog on :
Maybe Smelly will hold out til Rufus speaks?
Posted by dog on :
Uh oh... see ya round Smelly.....
Posted by dog on :
Wait a minute... so now he's listening to his lawyer? Was his counsel on vacation during the *** fiasco? Hmmm....
Posted by dog on :
m n 1 fiasco
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Good luck guys I hope you make out well, but I've had it.
Thanks for your thoughts US I know we are all getting tried. I can't say that this looks all that catastrophic just yet. So I am going to hang in there a bit longer. I would hate to miss a huge payday if it is out there, but we all have to play to our own limits.
I know for a fact that a few weeks from now I will look back on even these comments as tidbits of unknown wisdom or just spouts of plain stupidity. The line we walk is just that thin. GLTU and GLTA. Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
The Bud guy (seems to have inside info) is on Ihub again and is telling everyone everyhting is good... no more days and weeks but matter of hours. He said something about being somewhere on thursday??? I don't know if this guy is legit or what but it sounds good. Check it out...http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12509031
Posted by sceptor on :
bud is not a legitimate source. Just how enthusiastic would you be to tell someone what color the sky is after they threatened to sue you?
Posted by dog on :
So he was lucky with the previous info? it seemed to be right.
Posted by dog on :
I still think talk is cheap at this point....file some paper.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Man, Come back after a few days and everybody has grey hair and is going through minipause. Everybody go and get laid and then tomorrow will look so much brighter. Whatever happens will happen.
Posted by portman on :
Rumors and more rumors. What was that B5 episode called? Ahh Yes, "Rumors, Bargains and Lies".
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I still think talk is cheap at this point....file some paper.
And thats exactly what Rufus said to do. Watch the wires (not the morons).
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
i just got back ...can someone update me on wtf is new since the close today ?
Posted by portman on :
Nada Stock...vague rumor something is up Tues...but that is all. Nice X-File episode going on in traders-corner.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
something is up as in something BAD or good...cuz i didnt see any pr ...that idiot rufus is a pos
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
That article is from June 2004... R U just trying to show that they are wrong. If so I agree Our- Street is bad news.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
i have a question that i dont think anyone asked yet...why in the hell would there be "institutions" to buy at the $15 level...whats their gain...plus, whats FHAL going to be "making" after the merger...they are bankrupt, every company has some kind of service or profuct...whats FHAL has after the merger...shares ?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
That article is from June 2004... R U just trying to show that they are wrong. If so I agree Our- Street is bad news.
Sorry July 2004
Posted by portman on :
We have a profit on ptalk on TC.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
who's the profit?
Posted by portman on :
groveton...sez halt tomorr0w...24-36 hours..maybe longer...then big payoff.
<large can of salt provided here>
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: something is up as in something BAD or good...cuz i didnt see any pr ...that idiot rufus is a pos
interesting post. You do that a lot?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Everyone take a deep breath...(I would love to take Fryyguyy's advise but...never mind)
In anycase...we go one whole day with no PR or info and all begin to get nervous...relax...b itch if you feel better...but remember that you are also "encouraging" others to get in an uproar...and then as Moneyx3 said... "The only thing I know is that I won't be looking back someday thinking that was the most idiotic thing I've ever done was sell those FHAL shares right during the dealings and then it shot up."
Think before you react...protect your capital...and play the game...GLTA! Posted by portman on :
Aye...wise course of action.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
True 10... oh so true.
I like the game, and the second the 10K is released all will be able to get their breather.
I am still here and still holding.
Posted by dog on :
I for *hic* one think everything's fine....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I for *hic* one think everything's fine....
Oh no... thats a bad omen. Posted by lostone on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: i have a question that i dont think anyone asked yet...why in the hell would there be "institutions" to buy at the $15 level...whats their gain...plus, whats FHAL going to be "making" after the merger...they are bankrupt, every company has some kind of service or profuct...whats FHAL has after the merger...shares ?
ppl didn't ask b/c it was already answered in the interview.. CEO says that institutions will buy b/c the value is much greater than $15.. and we are not interested in FHAL.. we all know it's bankrupted, that's why the other company is using it to do a reverse merger for cheap, saving them lots of time and money in applications trying to do it on their own, get it? why do i even bother with these guys..
Posted by portman on :
What the disclaimor wasn't enought for you... Posted by dog on :
Monday - Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking. Tuesday - Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking. Wednesday - Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. Thursday - Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines
-Steve McCroskey - Airplane (1980) during the week of the reverse merger between Fronthaul and Conversion Solutions.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock: i have a question that i dont think anyone asked yet...why in the hell would there be "institutions" to buy at the $15 level...whats their gain...plus, whats FHAL going to be "making" after the merger...they are bankrupt, every company has some kind of service or profuct...whats FHAL has after the merger...shares ?
you should exert even the smallest of efforts and read the 8k. when you depend on others to make your trading decisions for you you have no one to blame but your own laziness.
the 8k specifically instructed fhal to stop doing business, so they wont be producing anything.
Posted by dog on :
They are saving millions of dollars in the process, as well as jumping into the public market in one fell swoop. The real question is why now? They got something up their sleeves... and the DD whispers "big-ass gubment contrax".
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Okay, there is news on my etrade pro from dowjones just relesed. Not sure what all this means yet I'll try to copy and paste it
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Okay, there is news on my etrade pro from dowjones just relesed. Not sure what all this means yet I'll try to copy and paste it
waiting Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just checked fhal on yahoo and saw nothing. What do you have.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"You got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em.
Know when to walk away, know when to run..."
The Chartwalker is still LONG!!! NO reason not to be yet Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "You got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em.
Know when to walk away, know when to run..."
The Chartwalker is still LONG!!! NO reason not to be yet
Oh my! LOL..I could almost "hear" you singing...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
can't copy and paste so I'll type it Form 144 Fronthaul Group Inc FHAL Filer: Laminack Tony & Kelly Title Shareholder Broker Edward D Jones &Company Restricted Shares to sell 37,500 Date Regestered: 8/3/2006 Aproximate date of sale: 7/31/2006 The form 144 is filed with the Securities and Exchane Comission to reflect the intention of any holder of resricted stock to sell those share. After the 144 is mailed to the SEC the filer is permitted to sell the shares, or any fraction of them, within 90 days. Form 144 Data Source: The washington Service (info*washingtonservice.com or 301-913-5100) (end) Dow Jonew Newswires 08-07-06 22:51 080706
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "You got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em.
Know when to walk away, know when to run..."
The Chartwalker is still LONG!!! NO reason not to be yet
Oh my! LOL..I could almost "hear" you singing...
Good thing you didn't! LOL ~~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Walker that just made me think of plastic surgery gone bad. Has anyone seen Kenny Rogers lately. Horrible plastic surgery
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Walker that just made me think of plastic surgery gone bad. Has anyone seen Kenny Rogers lately. Horrible plastic surgery
I'm a Rock & Roll nut.. The song just came to mind. I think people should just grow old with grace myself ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
So some more decided to sell...HMMM...Does anyone remember...the 8K..they said something about the restricted shares...and I can't remember what it was...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
There is one more just like that also... The first one (that I typed up) was titled Holder Laminack Register 37500 of fronthaul group Inc.. the 2nd one it titled Holder Hites Registers 75000 of fron..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Walker that just made me think of plastic surgery gone bad. Has anyone seen Kenny Rogers lately. Horrible plastic surgery
I'm a Rock & Roll nut.. The song just came to mind. I think people should just grow old with grace myself ~
You and me both. I just happened to see him in a picture somewhere. Bad just Bad
Posted by sceptor on :
LOL you are a very poor basher indeed.
You should read the 8k. FHAL no longer exists, if you are referring to Conversion Solutions then you need to address them properly. Failing to do so make the ignorance ooze from your pores.
Posted by sceptor on :
Do your own DD. We are not here to console you.
Posted by sceptor on :
this new company is gona make wat ?
a moron out of you, it's working well too.
Posted by beechwood on :
DMOST:
If you're "holding it strong and long" I don't want you standing anywhere near me,,lol . (sorry, I just couldn't resist..lol).
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
CVSU is a holding company... they are going to make holdings LOL
Posted by sceptor on :
I have plenty to say to those that need it said to.
Look up georgia aerospace, then look in the mirror.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Conversion Solutions Holding Company won't make anything. They are a holding company that owns either interests wholly own or have a partnership as with AISS Georgia Aerospace. The Berkshire Hathaway stock doesn't make anything I believe they are a holding company. Now I'm not comparing this in anyway to Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway, but I believe it's the same basic idea.
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Conversion Solutions Holding Company won't make anything. They are a holding company that owns either interests wholly own or have a partnership as with AISS Georgia Aerospace. The Berkshire Hathaway stock doesn't make anything I believe they are a holding company. Now I'm not comparing this in anyway to Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway, but I believe it's the same basic idea.
thats what Berkshire Hathaway does, but thats BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY...i was just looking at the role cvsu is having managing other companies and firms...the other idiot still doenst get it, thank for understanding my point though
Posted by Tmoney on :
isnt FHAL a trucking company, they dont make anything they haul stuff, right?
Posted by lostone on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: isnt FHAL a trucking company, they dont make anything they haul stuff, right?
yea.. LOL.. i wonder if they could haul that idiot out of allstocks
Posted by Tmoney on :
FHAL was suppost to have an contract to haul timber out of the amazon, right?
Posted by DEAN_Stock on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: isnt FHAL a trucking company, they dont make anything they haul stuff, right?
they dont do squad anymore...lol
Posted by kt325ci on :
One thing that amazes me is the strength that remains in the stock. I thought for sure the pps was going to the crapper when it broke $1 today.
Posted by lostone on :
quote:Originally posted by DEAN_Stock:
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: isnt FHAL a trucking company, they dont make anything they haul stuff, right?
they dont do squad anymore...lol
we're all just looking to get lucky.. for pennies, even if you do major DD, it only gives u higher chance, still doesn't guaranty sqat, b/c there are loopholes and things like that.. there is nothing that WE can ask or do right now, only to wait.. especially for the 10K .. no point arguing
Posted by Tmoney on :
i got a question, and i am not a basher, just something thats been on my mind lately, if you were rufus and this was such a sure deal wouldnt you tell your family and friends to buy as much stock as possible, even to take out a huge loan, because this thing is going to $15, then they would tell their friends uncle rufus is promising us this 1500% gain who would tell their friends and so on, that alone should be creating some major buying pressure and the pps should be going up, if it is such a sure thing wouldnt he want all of his family and friends to capitalize on this? and they should be holding alot, i know if he was my uncle or pawpaw and he promised me $15 i would do it, and no it wouldnt be insider trading, because he has told us this information,
Posted by lostone on :
are you delusional? you were the one with the rude comments to begin with.. calling ppl names and such.. and i only responded to that once you insulted me..
Posted by Tmoney on :
cant we all just get along
Posted by lostone on :
dude, whatever.. i think i'll take your advice and go to bed..
Posted by glassman on :
hey BB, the natives are restless huh? Posted by VoodooNola on :
This great board has gone to the Ihub level,hopefully only this will end soon.Please lets end this unproductive arguing and get back to good DD,intelligent opinions,and MAKIN' MONEY!
GLTA
Posted by betting babe on :
the natives need a bar of soap. and a PR. yeesh.
Posted by DMOST on :
DMOST:
If you're "holding it strong and long" I don't want you standing anywhere near me,,lol . (sorry, I just couldn't resist..lol).
I can dig-it, and that would be wise. I like to get deep off into things, enjoy the excitment,the humor, the uncertainity all with a common goal, which is to satisfy my needs. At this point, they have not been satisfied, so I'm still long and strong. Hopefully with good end results. But, I like minEs wet not muddy.
"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE"
Posted by SYGY on :
back!from the wood's! so i better see whats been going on in the last few days????
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: the natives need a bar of soap. and a PR. yeesh.
i hear thru the grapevines that some of the natives will be in time out for awhile....
allstocks has a policy about namecalling....
same one they had in kintygerten... Posted by betting babe on :
well that restores some confidence glass.
goodnight all - sweet dreams of PRs and 10Ks
~BB
Posted by dog on :
woof....
Posted by SYGY on :
hope i came back from camping just in time for tomorrow!!cause nothing seemed to have changed YET!
Posted by portman on :
Yawn....G'morning...
Will someone let the dog out.
Oh, BTW...it's like waiting for Christmas when you were 8.
I'm going back to my padded cell now. Posted by Chartwalker on :
GGGGGoooood Morning Board! See I missed a "party" here last night (not). Well let's hope we all got some needed sleep Posted by Chartwalker on :
Someone on HMS stated this, DD people is there anything to this?... ---------------------------------------------- The 8k that they filed is incorrect. It quotes the old rule; the rule the SEC changed because pump-and-dumpsters were abusing it. Under the old rule, you could announce a merger and then have 60 days to pump the stock (government contracts, institutional investors, inflated pps, short squeezes [Wait, where have I heard this before?]) before you had to release the true info on the new company. Now the SEC only gives you 4 days before you have to spill the beans.
Posted by sceptor on :
we resolved that last night. fhal was not a shell, it was an operating company with 9 employees. The new shell rules do not apply, it is a simple reverse merger in the eyes of the SEC.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: we resolved that last night. fhal was not a shell, it was an operating company with 9 employees. The new shell rules do not apply, it is a simple reverse merger in the eyes of the SEC.
Thank you sir ~
Posted by dog on :
Morning everyone...looking forward to another day of gains? Hope so.....
Posted by 66inxs on :
who let the dogs out ? who? who?
what rufus may be trying to do is two reverse mergers- fhal - to cvsu - to chsc. look on deleware sos website to see origins of corps. dean has a valid point although he did a poor job of stating it - what is being done other than promises to create value to shareholders?
GLTA today - and we can certainly do better than ihub. use your brains and not your butts and we will all make money.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Good morning!
I went for drinks last night and avoided the board when i got home. It looks like everyone should have tried that!! LOL
Posted by 66inxs on :
morning mr. catiaengineer. yep some of our buds didn't do too well here last night but maybe today will be better. we'll all find out together when the market opens in about an hour. maybe sttc and cbay will keep rocking too ! GLTA !
Posted by djg7 on :
Looks like shaking will take place at opening bell this AM. Premarket Bid 1.01 Ask .9999. Good thing I'll be gone in a few minutes.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
So, anyone bored today? Ive just been reading stuff to pass the time and thought this was an interesting read. It mentions our money bag AISS a bit. Sorry 10, still no official docs like an 8k but gives a peek into the past of Mr Harris some more.
I wonder who William Tay is.....
Posted by Sandusky on :
Can we revisit GA Aerospace again? Part of this deal is a big JV between CVSU and them correct? I work in the govt. contracting arena and have been trying to find info on them. They have 20 employees and ~$5 million gross revenue (as of 07/05). I can't find any past performance, contracts awarded or task orders on existing contracts. Not that unusual for small businesses.(from input.com)
The point is that they are not a big company with loads of money. Classified as small business, minority owned, veteran owned. These are all "set aside" factors, which is a good thing. DOD is supposed to "set aside" 30% of ALL contract spend for these companies (billions of $) but rarely meets that number.
They very well could have partners (ie. Lockheed) that hold major contracts, my question is to what extend this merger, our new pps etc., rely on the JV with GA. A penny for your thoughts...
Posted by sceptor on :
Nice read. Notice this part?
On August 19, 2005 CVSU entered in to an agreement with Georgia Aerospace, a Georgia Corporation with 4 subsidiaries and 50,000,000 in tangible assets to jointly form a new corporation called American International Smart Structures. The new JV Corporation will manufacture composite plating and other products for Strategic and Stealth Defense contracts and some commercial applications. The shareholders of CVSU will hold a 40% equity position in the new corporation.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Nice read. Notice this part?
On August 19, 2005 CVSU entered in to an agreement with Georgia Aerospace, a Georgia Corporation with 4 subsidiaries and 50,000,000 in tangible assets to jointly form a new corporation called American International Smart Structures. The new JV Corporation will manufacture composite plating and other products for Strategic and Stealth Defense contracts and some commercial applications. The shareholders of CVSU will hold a 40% equity position in the new corporation.
Yea, the part about CVSU shareholders holding 40% equity in the new corp stuck out. But it says "will" and this isnt an official document as far as i cant tell so its tough to place a lot of weight on it.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Nice read. Notice this part?
On August 19, 2005 CVSU entered in to an agreement with Georgia Aerospace, a Georgia Corporation with 4 subsidiaries and 50,000,000 in tangible assets to jointly form a new corporation called American International Smart Structures. The new JV Corporation will manufacture composite plating and other products for Strategic and Stealth Defense contracts and some commercial applications. The shareholders of CVSU will hold a 40% equity position in the new corporation.
Yea, the part about CVSU shareholders holding 40% equity in the new corp stuck out. But it says "will" and this isnt an official document as far as i cant tell so its tough to place a lot of weight on it.
the merger agreement that was filed later does say 40% so it can be be given it's fair weight.
Posted by Sandusky on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Nice read. Notice this part?
On August 19, 2005 CVSU entered in to an agreement with Georgia Aerospace, a Georgia Corporation with 4 subsidiaries and 50,000,000 in tangible assets to jointly form a new corporation called American International Smart Structures. The new JV Corporation will manufacture composite plating and other products for Strategic and Stealth Defense contracts and some commercial applications. The shareholders of CVSU will hold a 40% equity position in the new corporation.
These numbers and the info I found (published within one month of each other) don't seem to add up. Who/what are the subsidiaries? 50mil tangible assets but only 5mil gross rev? I'm just asking questions here.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: So, anyone bored today? Ive just been reading stuff to pass the time and thought this was an interesting read. It mentions our money bag AISS a bit. Sorry 10, still no official docs like an 8k but gives a peek into the past of Mr Harris some more.
William Tay is definitely the source for most of the funds. I DD him a while back and he has some seriously deep pockets. Made a mint off the Internet Bubble from what I can tell. Has International contacts galore. I think he is a silent partner but definitely the source for a major portion of the funds.
Posted by sceptor on :
read further in the doc. It lists the 4 subs.
By the way Tay sold Rufus the shell (via shares), he didnt invest. 7. The Issuer has effectuated a change of control.
On April 22, 2005 Mr. William Tay, President & CEO and the Majority shareholder entered into a Stock purchase agreement with Rufus Paul Harris, CEO of Waatle Holdings Corp for the purchase of his 22,890.000 shares, the agreement had an original closing date of May 4, 2005. Thru a contract extension the closing date was moved to June 7, 2005. On June 7, 2005 all closure documents were finalized.
A shareholders meeting was called on June 7, 2005 and Mr. Rufus Paul Harris was appointed as Chairman and CEO of the corporation and Mr. William Tay resigned. Posted by thisisboring on :
QUIN really seems to be on this pretty hard...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I started chasing William Tay when I found his name in the 8K.
Posted by sceptor on :
I suspect they know today is their last chance for cheap shares.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I hope it's their last day for cheap shares. Although I'll be convinced when it happens.
Posted by thisisboring on :
does anyone else not believe in the short story now? didn't someone have a link to the short list stating there were only 23k or so shares short for july?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
bid is more than the ask
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well I for one will be glad when this is over one way or the other (hoping for the BEST!!) -cause for the average Joe with kids and a mortgage this can be a ride from hell as you watch money come in and go out ~
Still LONG Posted by RyanPBF on :
a couple of times already some buys going through above the ask ?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
William Tay is not out of this story. From the looks of it he may be Rufas's mentor/boss/financer but definitely not out of the story. I found his name in over 80 companies, and he is always a very silent "angel" investor.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning ... good to be home. Hey Chart, just don't hit refresh on your account balance.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Good Morning ... good to be home. Hey Chart, just don't hit refresh on your account balance.
Don't worry, I'm seeing it through! GL ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: William Tay is not out of this story. From the looks of it he may be Rufas's mentor/boss/financer but definitely not out of the story. I found his name in over 80 companies, and he is always a very silent "angel" investor.
Yea, thats the same thing im seeing. He has his hands in a whole bunch of things. And, he seems to "make things happen" as far as Edgar is concerned.
Don't get me wrong I do not think William Tay is significant in this merger at all. But I do think he is an integral part of Rufas's organization. Everyone needs a "Daddy Warbucks".
apparently *** was tlaking about fhal this morning and talking positively about the merger and the $15.00 open
anyone listening to it?...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: apparently M N 1 was tlaking about fhal this morning and talking positively about the merger and the $15.00 open
anyone listening to it?...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
No I didn't but someone posted the same thing on Ihub no real information on what they were saying though.
Posted by betting babe on :
william tay writes in his b log (seems to be the same guy?)
Random Acts of Kindness ? Are we missing the point?
This article may seem to speak of well-intentions at first. But once you sit down and think about it, it is a distortion. The word "Random" plays a stronger role here and the term "Kindness" is just an end-effect of the Flash mob syndrome.
Acts of kindness should be generated at the people who need it at a particular time and place. While I agree that all parties involved, including the conduits, benefit from the overall act, I believe that the act should be dished out by a party voluntarily via a conduit (or not) to another party in need to be the recipient of that act. The Pay-it-Forward movement can only reach a high maximization point when people give away what they dont need to the ones in need. It doesnt matter whether it is random or intended. I can give it away to an intended charity or the next poor person I see on the street. ....
~BB
Posted by RyanPBF on :
We just had about 20k shares bought in under 30sec for a buck and they dropped the ask. WTF is that all about.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: william tay writes in his b log (seems to be the same guy?)
Random Acts of Kindness ? Are we missing the point?
This article may seem to speak of well-intentions at first. But once you sit down and think about it, it is a distortion. The word "Random" plays a stronger role here and the term "Kindness" is just an end-effect of the Flash mob syndrome.
Acts of kindness should be generated at the people who need it at a particular time and place. While I agree that all parties involved, including the conduits, benefit from the overall act, I believe that the act should be dished out by a party voluntarily via a conduit (or not) to another party in need to be the recipient of that act. The Pay-it-Forward movement can only reach a high maximization point when people give away what they dont need to the ones in need. It doesnt matter whether it is random or intended. I can give it away to an intended charity or the next poor person I see on the street. ....
~BB
Wow, kinda does sound like the same guy eh? A "pay it forward" personality works for me in this case. It looks like Tay has had some winners along the way so we can hope this is one of them I guess.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Listening now... but they are talking to some Silver minning company.
Posted by ruthie on :
Looking back at a couple weeks ago when this stock was at 1.60, sure would like to see that again. I guess I should have flipped a little bit a that time. Oh well, let's see what this brings today or through the end of week...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Anyone haven probs with microcap????
Posted by thisisboring on :
damn...I was hoping to come back from my meeting and find all kinds of sugarplum PR's and gumdrop 10K's...oh well...
still waiting patiently...although this volume is crazy...the minute chart looks rediculous, lol...just all over the place...
Posted by new2stocks on :
no such luck
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, its all over the place but one thing is for certain....its being held at $1 still. Coincidence?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: damn...I was hoping to come back from my meeting and find all kinds of sugarplum PR's and gumdrop 10K's...oh well...
still waiting patiently...although this volume is crazy...the minute chart looks rediculous, lol...just all over the place...
yeah, I dropped into a 2 minute chart to clean up the noise, helped.
Posted by thisisboring on :
if someone is "maintaining" this level...what would be required to do so? a ton of cash or just a really savvy trader or both?
[ August 08, 2006, 11:26: Message edited by: thisisboring ]
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Whoah, read this too. Warrior Capital LLC is also listed on in the Conversion / waatle merger link i provided earlier. And, Darrel Uselton seems to pop up in various places too. Read this regarding shorters and focus on the name dropping in the last few sentences.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Whoah, read this too. Warrior Capital LLC is also listed on in the Conversion / waatle merger link i provided earlier. And, Darrel Uselton seems to pop up in various places too. Read this regarding shorters and focus on the name dropping in the last few sentences.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Whoah, read this too. Warrior Capital LLC is also listed on in the Conversion / waatle merger link i provided earlier. And, Darrel Uselton seems to pop up in various places too. Read this regarding shorters and focus on the name dropping in the last few sentences.
Im saying that CVSU was apparently "assisted along" in the beginning by Warrior Capital LLC which seems to have a good deal of bad press.
Now, if i can just figure out where i saw Darrel Uselton in association with all of this.
Im just throwing info out and trying to link it all up. Disregard if you feel its meaningless.
Posted by dog on :
Any news??? Can't seem to get this below a dollar....
Posted by dog on :
Where is the pressure coming from to hold this price? Guess noone wants to sell.
Posted by thisisboring on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: if someone is "maintaining" this level...what would be required to do so? a ton of cash or just a really savvy trader or both?
Posted by dog on :
So what was the last comments on FHAL on m n 1?
Posted by dog on :
Someone keeps putting small orders thru at around 100 sshares to pull it up over a dollar every time it dips.
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning everyone....YAAwwnn... I am discouraged, as I do believe, we all are. It seems to be taking forever. I realize it takes time, but Mr. Ruffas should give his shareholders a lil insight. He'd want to know as to what is the hold up. Does he really have faith in the shareholders or is this a game with him? hmmmmm.. Smile if it happens then it does... Or we are all fools??? LOL
Posted by jos_tul on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Someone keeps putting small orders thru at around 100 sshares to pull it up over a dollar every time it dips.
I doubt it could be MM (or daytraders..but belive it is more of the MMs) ... rufus has a tieup with MMs to keep it up 1 $ range to move it into Nasdaq listing requirements ? Just a thought ...
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Good morning everyone....YAAwwnn... I am discouraged, as I do believe, we all are. It seems to be taking forever. I realize it takes time, but Mr. Ruffas should give his shareholders a lil insight. He'd want to know as to what is the hold up. Does he really have faith in the shareholders or is this a game with him? hmmmmm.. Smile if it happens then it does... Or we are all fools??? LOL
I remember a PR on Friday, PRs everyday do more damage than good, relax and let it happen. Apparently those who are anxious have never been in a situation where there are circumstances that may delay the outcome, if you are uncomfortable holding, then it may be a good idea to sell and relieve yourself of your anxiety.
Posted by 10of13 on :
IMO..with each day that passes and no "remarkable" news...this will slowly move down...it doesn't mean it won't happen...but the "faith" of the investors and traders will be tested and we shall see results of that test...
This may take a while...to know if we are to trusting (fools) or patient and wise...
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Im just throwing info out and trying to link it all up. Disregard if you feel its meaningless.
my input MrCatia (urs is never meaningless):
i dont see a 'good deal' of bad press, i see 2 companies that had problems... and they seem to have consulted for hundreds of companies.
one had a ton of spam mail/faxes sent out to pump the stock (in 2002) and one was shorted to death on 5 mil outstanding shares according the the owner's letter to the SEC.
# My organizations & I have sponsored over 600 companies to go public over the past 10 years, AND served as their “primary” market maker;
# My organizations & I have "made a market" in literally thousands of companies, as a former NASD institutional broker/dealer owner (National Capital - "NATC");
# I built that brokerage company from startup to $35 million in annual sales in 5 years;
# I took it public in less than five years from start up;
# I've founded and managed three other public companies as well, therefore have extensive experience on YOUR side of the desk too;
# My associates and I know pretty much every real small-cap player on and off Wall Street,
# There's probably not many better micro-cap stock traders anywhere, than myself and a couple members of my team.
is that they same guy? or are there two of em in Houston?
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hey, thanks for the support BB! After reading a bit further i did realzie i jumped the gun on the "good deal" of bad press. It could be that someones business failed and they just needed someone to blame. For giggles I shot an email off to one of the companies that cried foul at Warrior and Uselton just to see what ever happened after the claims. The reasons for my posts today arent to prove Rufus or CVSU are "pulling something", im more concerned that someone is pulling something on them. It seems Rufus has a good handle on everything so maybe im just being paranoid.
And yes, its the same guy for sure....protrading.com.
Posted by SYGY on :
a little action NOW!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Dog, though a small bet, I bought one of the 100 share trades this AM before the anticipated halt and change-over. Hope to realize a small gain for some pocket change. Perhaps others are thinking the same????
quote:Originally posted by dog: Someone keeps putting small orders thru at around 100 sshares to pull it up over a dollar every time it dips.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
is it twice now we touched the hod that hasn't happened here in awhile.
Posted by dog on :
Wow big order at 1.015... sorry just trying to glean some entertainment orders from this
Posted by Chartwalker on :
ok what's going on?? Price up?
Posted by dog on :
possibly Bucky.. still someone had to decide to sell.
Posted by thisisboring on :
big order at 1.04 as well...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
something is happening!
Posted by SYGY on :
somethings UP!
Posted by thisisboring on :
did anyone else read that protrading.com site and what he actually does?
it's pretty interesting...and actually kinda explains the pricing here...and how it's staying where it is...well the pricing above a dollar...not this run specifically...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: did anyone else read that protrading.com site and what he actually does?
it's pretty interesting...and actually kinda explains the pricing here...and how it's staying where it is...well the pricing above a dollar...not this run specifically...
fill us in ~
Posted by luvforever on :
No, not selling...I have nothing to lose. LOL sometime it's just gotta be all or nothing with a lil faith!!!!!!!!!! Though it keeps your blood pumping LOL Posted by dog on :
"What the f**k is this s**t?"
- the Juggernaut
Posted by jos_tul on :
somethin's up...we might see 1.07-1.08 soon
Posted by new2stocks on :
THis is all I could find....on P A l talk
new2market: Just spoke with TA. They expect the symbol later today or tomorrow morning. She said they are working frantically to get it done. float is a little over 25 mil now. GLTA! Hopefully not long now. --
Posted by thisisboring on :
basically they take companies that wanna enter the otc markets and make it possible...they have connections with market makers and the like...who shorts and all that...and advises on how to make it happen...
if all his qualifications checkout the company sounds pretty useful...
they actually go through and list all of the things that kill companies...it's pretty neat...it's like reading about all the worst stocks in the OTC market, lol...I don't know...it just seems like a great idea if it's for real...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
some big block buys coming in Posted by jos_tul on :
wow...l2's ask scrolling up...1.10 soon ?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: THis is all I could find....on P A l talk
new2market: Just spoke with TA. They expect the symbol later today or tomorrow morning. She said they are working frantically to get it done. float is a little over 25 mil now. GLTA! Hopefully not long now. --
Thanks dirt digger! Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hmmm, a bit of a lunch run? WTF is that all about?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I have no idea what's going on I like it. Just no idea why it's happening right now.
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Today could be the day!
Posted by SYGY on :
it's all good!! wait till we really roll!!
Posted by buckstalker on :
Buying above the ask...Good Sign!
Posted by jos_tul on :
PR to be out soon ? or MM knows symbol change to be done soon or Halt ? MMs know more insider info than traders..I guess
Posted by thisisboring on :
anyone else notice 4 or 5 more MM's are in this now? not front runners or anything but in nonetheless?
Posted by betting babe on :
ok brought it over
according to Darrel Uselton's website
# My organizations & I have sponsored over 600 companies to go public over the past 10 years, AND served as their “primary” market maker;
# My organizations & I have "made a market" in literally thousands of companies, as a former NASD institutional broker/dealer owner (National Capital - "NATC");
# I built that brokerage company from startup to $35 million in annual sales in 5 years;
# I took it public in less than five years from start up;
# I've founded and managed three other public companies as well, therefore have extensive experience on YOUR side of the desk too;
# My associates and I know pretty much every real small-cap player on and off Wall Street,
# There's probably not many better micro-cap stock traders anywhere, than myself and a couple members of my team.
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: did anyone else read that protrading.com site and what he actually does?
it's pretty interesting...and actually kinda explains the pricing here...and how it's staying where it is...well the pricing above a dollar...not this run specifically...
fill us in ~
Posted by thisisboring on :
yeah BB actually summed it up good as well...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisboring: basically they take companies that wanna enter the otc markets and make it possible...they have connections with market makers and the like...who shorts and all that...and advises on how to make it happen...
if all his qualifications checkout the company sounds pretty useful...
they actually go through and list all of the things that kill companies...it's pretty neat...it's like reading about all the worst stocks in the OTC market, lol...I don't know...it just seems like a great idea if it's for real...
Yea, and they are associated with Warrior Capital which links back to CVSU but no direct link that i can find. Interesting stuff to say the least.
Posted by SYGY on :
someone really wanted those shares!!GETTING CLOSE NOW!
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...I grabbed some shares yesterday..on a dip..I had a sell in at 1.12...went to change the order...they had already taken it..BLASTARDS...but I don't see it on the L2's... Oh well..I got them to "play" with...I'll just have to get more on the dip...
Posted by dog on :
Hell, I was waiting on a dip in the 90's... was hard to get any reasonable amopunt of shares.... volume was so low..
Posted by dog on :
This defies the entire pattern of this stock....always dipped at the lunch hour...
Posted by ruthie on :
UP UP and Away!!!
Posted by dog on :
So by "symbol change" they mean "halt".. correct?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
something happened.. alot of volume, big orders.. Whew ~ ABOUT TIME!!! LMAO
Posted by SYGY on :
as fast as that happened! will be the halt and pr's!!!! looks like it is poised,,,alot of on lookers! ready to buy! or is it big money?
Posted by jos_tul on :
buy above ask...somebody is on frenzy time
Posted by buckstalker on :
It appears that someone put in a very large market order...
Posted by dog on :
Amazing.. I got in deeper too today at the lowest point... maybe a smart move... maybe I should just turn off the computer and go to work.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
buys above the ask again!
Posted by betting babe on :
and my level2s were down all morning.
thx somebody for waiting
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
So, any guesses? 2pm today we see a major step forward? Any takers? Posted by Chartwalker on :
This could be it ~ -where is the 10k?!!!!!!!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
oh hell YES ! here we go!
Posted by The Phat Man on :
is there news or something creating this run? i can't find anything. maybe a leak. maybe just a huge group play. anyone know anything?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
it really looks like frantic buying. Maybe shorts really are starting to cover.
Posted by jos_tul on :
Tried searching PRnewswire for any updates..nope..so far no news..for Conversion solutioins...
I guess by 2pm...could be a halt..lets hope so...Wow..my L2s are rocketing...with buys pouring in
Posted by dog on :
I'm going to be late for work now... gotta stop watching.. THIS COULD FINALLY BE IT!
Funny how that line stirs the emotions isn't it? So much pent up emotion on this.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
my guess is MM's heard something.. -no news out that I can see ~
Posted by mnvestor on :
IMO, we will halt, 10k, then PRs to maintain new price...10k prior to halt makes no sense, if they are confident in numbers releasing after halt will bring in buyers..
Posted by glassman on :
kinda wondering who would be flipping this late in the game...
Posted by jos_tul on :
1.15 coming soon
Posted by 10of13 on :
Dropping pretty fast..could be a fake...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
yea, but this seems to happen before the 10-k comes out. Someone always gets a few shares just before!
Posted by SYGY on :
results MUST OF COME IN!!! this has gotta be GOOD NEWS!
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: kinda wondering who would be flipping this late in the game...
Either very dumb or very smart traders...
Posted by jos_tul on :
did they get any million order buy... ?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
makes new HOD again woohoo
Posted by 10of13 on :
Where the heck is Maumee...? LMAO..he must be havin' a smoke again...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Me thinks we may not be fools after all Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: yea, but this seems to happen before the 10-k comes out. Someone always gets a few shares just before!
The stock ran exceptionally well the day before the merger was announced.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Me thinks we may not be fools after all
Shhhh don't tell anyone...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Hey rat this thing looks like it's on fire are you doing your Irish Jig
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Shave your legs baby, Daddy's coming home tonight!!" LOL ~
Posted by luvforever on :
Geeze... this is strange! But I guess there won't be any real pattern, cause no one knows what will happen...LOL
Posted by jos_tul on :
1.17 comin up in l2 soon
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, none of us knows whats causing this but its sure nice to see eh?
Maybe its Darrel manipulating the price cuz he knew i was on to him!! LOL. Who is the mole? Out yourself!! Posted by Matrix Trader on :
I just have 200 shares for $1 each. (Just for fun) If it goes to $15 then 200 * $15
But I wld be happy for you big rollers Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Yea!! and I got a few more this morn also. Looks like someone is trying to entice the sellers! HA, Holdin, rollin, holdin lol.
Lets roll!!!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by buck*******:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: kinda wondering who would be flipping this late in the game...
Either very dumb or very smart traders...
it must be both
which is which? i can't wait to find out...
dang buck, your last name is censored? never saw that before...
Posted by new2stocks on :
rumor on HSM and P a l talk that news is coming out at 1:00 (12:00) central time.
Posted by jos_tul on :
1.19 coming up..fun to watch..after those boring days
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: rumor on HSM and P a l talk that news is coming out at 1:00 (12:00) central time.
-great job
Posted by mnvestor on :
This activity is much more than traders on Paltalk, allstocks, HSM, or IHub
Posted by RyanPBF on :
it must be the good vibe m n 1 gave to us this morning lol although no one can really remember what they said
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: kinda wondering who would be flipping this late in the game...
Either very dumb or very smart traders...
it must be both
which is which? i can't wait to find out...
dang buck, your last name is censored? never saw that before...
Yea Glass...I am really interested to see how this plays out... I played it twice and doubled both times...just letting the freebies ride to "see what happens" Don't know why allstocks doesn't like the name...had it for damn near 4 years now
Posted by cool AZ on :
Chart, I agree ... mm's know something ... too much continuous volume and rise, baby, rise!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I thought 1.20 by 1pm for sure. Now its all over the place. Puuuuuuuuuuush Posted by ruthie on :
Yep....Sumpin is definitely up!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Chart, I agree ... mm's know something ... too much continuous volume and rise, baby, rise!
Yeah, SOLID orders coming in! Who the heck would sell?!!!!!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
It's fun to watch the stock go up by the penny... Will be more fun to watch it go up by the dollar!
Posted by SYGY on :
and poeple were saying earlier WHO'S GONNA BUY OUR SHARES AT 15$,,,here's the sample of IT!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Dog....whatever it was with the small orders, well, demand does seem to have picked up a bit....Heh heh Go Babbbbbeeeeeeeee
quote:Originally posted by dog: possibly Bucky.. still someone had to decide to sell.
Posted by cassity on :
I had a order in for 4000k shares at 1.2 and it took about 5 minutes to fill.
Posted by SYGY on :
shoulda got-em at .98-.99
Posted by dog on :
got 6k more at .97 . . hopefully turns out to be lucky...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: rumor on HSM and P a l talk that news is coming out at 1:00 (12:00) central time.
if this was done on rumor...it will be dropping soon...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I so want to attempt a small flip. Either we get news and close over 1.20 or we dont and go back to $1 IMO. What could i do with a .20 a share flip.....hmmmm Posted by BULListic on :
That's 4 million shares, now that is taking a stake in Project Rufus
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I had a order in for 4000k shares at 1.2 and it took about 5 minutes to fill.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: rumor on HSM and P a l talk that news is coming out at 1:00 (12:00) central time.
if this was done on rumor...it will be dropping soon...
not this quick and fast on just a rumor... we've had several....
Posted by betting babe on :
50,000 * 1.1799 ????!!!
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
.000x trades here????
quin and view got some 'splainin to do...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: 50,000 * 1.1799 ????!!!
~BB
that's just waht I did! ha ~
Posted by sceptor on :
I just got off the phone with nasdaq.
The new ticker will be CSHD, ummm now you guess when
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sceptor...what's up with you postin' over there first? LOL
Posted by a surfer on :
phil called
Posted by sceptor on :
over where? hsm is my home forum.
Posted by portman on :
lol, I am going to an appreciation lunch for me more often.....Nice to come back to my desk and see this...Not unexpected though.
Posted by SYGY on :
no more dips,,,up from here ,,can't be many shares for sale at these levels!!??
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Volume just pouring in
Posted by mnvestor on :
Good luck to us, we shall be called CSHD
Posted by betting babe on :
wow this is crazeeeeee
the walls are just fallin like cows being tipped in a pasture
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
casey jones rides again...
Posted by cassity on :
Sorry guys, but did you all see the news on SLJB. A company is buying 25% of the company on the open market. HUGE. Anyways, I love when both my stocks are kickin a$$.
Posted by betting babe on :
CSHD looks like CASHED when i read it Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: wow this is crazeeeeee
the walls are just fallin like cows being tipped in a pasture
~BB
How would you know about that city girl? Posted by betting babe on :
im from CT mrCatia
Posted by portman on :
SLJB (I'm in), Cow tipping in the city and FHAL rampaging....what a day!
Posted by betting babe on :
34,900 * 1.18 41,000 * 1.17
hrmmm
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Port, I'm in both also!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: im from CT mrCatia
Hey, i stand corrected. Big move to New York City eh?
Ok, back to pushin cows over!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
babe what part of CT are you from.
Posted by betting babe on :
im from Mystic. been in nyc for 15 years tho havent seen many cows lately. Posted by luvforever on :
I'm confused, but guess that's good!! LOL Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm from East Haven not far from you at all Mystic or NYC. CT in play here
Posted by Doniboy on :
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE TODAY????????
Posted by 10of13 on :
Now what's goin' on?
Posted by betting babe on :
doh! i dunno me confusededed now
~BB
Posted by cassity on :
Doniboy are you still in SLJB?
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Nice day today SLJB is green and FHAL is green.
Posted by luvforever on :
doh! i dunno me confusededed now
~BB
AREN"T WE ALL????
Posted by thisisboring on :
figures...I come back from lunch and miss all the fun...and now it appears the sale is over,lol...
i'm bad luck, lol...
Posted by a surfer on :
man they are both going goooooood
Posted by 10of13 on :
Man...these are nice "little" flips...
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Cass,
Nice day in SLJB land today, eh???
Posted by a surfer on :
yup I like
Posted by thisisfun on :
i guess whomever was buying has their shares?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Once I get my 15 dollars for a few shares I will place that little chunk into SLJB.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Cass,
Nice day in SLJB land today, eh???
So nice, I don't know if people realize how big that news is, especially if there is a short squeeze. 25% of the company, or 50 million shares. HUGE. $1 is going to come up real fast. GLTA. I hope we halt trading on this soon, I'm ready for double good news.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
looks like someone just fat fingered a buy at 1.43 instead of 1.143
Posted by ruthie on :
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by ruthie on :
Now I see what happened...
Posted by VoodooNola on :
2 fat fingers? someone must be really excited.
Posted by thisisfun on :
way to mess the charts up...putzezz
what just happened?
Posted by banah18 on :
OK THIS STOCK IS GOING to 1.50
Posted by thisisfun on :
did everyone else see all those zero share transactions?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Watch for halt, this is next step in puzzle
Posted by betting babe on :
* cue the deflation process please * Posted by thisisfun on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: * cue the deflation process please *
ok...back on track now, lol...i think...
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
Whatever, time to pick more shares up!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Oh GOD ! I overslept today and forgot to sell ! THANK GOD !! LOL ! Nothing like being in PST to save your ass on a dumb sell based on emotions.
That being said I'm still in and ready to sell my CSHD shares for $15. HEY HO LET'S GO !
Posted by djg7 on :
We should probably make a new thread later for CSHD.
Posted by betting babe on :
uncle i was thinking that, after what you said yesterday...
congrats on sleeping in it worx for ya!
~BB
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: uncle i was thinking that, after what you said yesterday...
congrats on sleeping in it worx for ya!
~BB
Damn allergy season here in AZ, woke up at 8am my time (11 est) and saw the action... Luck of the draw I was ready to dump right at 6:30 had I woken up, lol. Sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
got to love it when a plan comes together. Hopefully this is it.
Posted by thisisfun on :
haha...i wonder who bought up all those shares with that two hour notice they had?
Posted by unclerudy on :
So, who is going to sell at the open, and who is going to hold on for a potentially better price during the day? Just want everyones thought on when to sell.
Posted by casviper on :
what happened... the ride up stopped.
Posted by portman on :
US...is is SO nice to still have u aboard...
Woot!
<No sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired>
Posted by ruthie on :
I'm hanging in there.........
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Anyone know if P Rowds is still in or did he sell?
Posted by luvforever on :
I'm holding... especially if this happens, mo is that it will be even better than $15 if all happens as stated so I think I will wait it out... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
WTF?! I just got an alert to my phone that says FHAL is trading at 1.43, up 38.835%
A glitch in MSN alerts mabye?
Posted by thisisfun on :
haha...you took my advice and upgraded the phone?
and no there was a fat finger...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisfun: haha...you took my advice and upgraded the phone?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So, who is going to sell at the open, and who is going to hold on for a potentially better price during the day? Just want everyones thought on when to sell.
That's a game time decision for me. I will say that IMO. I've felt if everything came true, and the pr's that they plan to release are as big as Rufus alluded to. Then I'd probably be holding the majority of my shares and there's nothing wrong with selling a few to put some cash in my pocket.
Posted by portman on :
OK, gotta share this....
So I call my dad to tell him what is going on...
He says he ended up with 600 more shares of FHAL. He ment to put in an order yesterday for 300 more and somehow doubled it.
He thinks he needs a new pool now.
Posted by ohio_trader on :
where will this go tmrw an the rest of the week?
any thoughts?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: WTF?! I just got an alert to my phone that says FHAL is trading at 1.43, up 38.835%
A glitch in MSN alerts mabye?
OK, this is gonna piss you off...
BUT? here it is:
if you went to work this morning and left a sell order at 1.40$ that could have triggered your order..
even if the next trade was really 1.14$... pretty nashty huh?
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
Fat finger....I guess MSN alerts are incompetent
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: WTF?! I just got an alert to my phone that says FHAL is trading at 1.43, up 38.835%
A glitch in MSN alerts mabye?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: WTF?! I just got an alert to my phone that says FHAL is trading at 1.43, up 38.835%
A glitch in MSN alerts mabye?
OK, this is gonna piss you off...
BUT? here it is:
if you went to work this morning and left a sell order at 1.40$ that could have triggered your order..
even if the next trade was really 1.14$... pretty nashty huh?
Ahh yea the 1.43 fat finger earlier caused that. Odd, and yes im sure some people would be P'd off about that
Posted by portman on :
It's the HOD
Posted by skip on :
I flipped this in the pre $1 days, been watching the drama unfold on the sidelines ever since... I might buy 50 shares just to see what happens...
Posted by ruthie on :
Hopefully the EOD will be a little bit higher. At least around 1.17
Posted by Chartwalker on :
EOD I think will be high today Posted by ruthie on :
Last Tuesday the EOD was at 1.19 It would be great if it ended at the previous week when it ended at 1.60 (on july/24)
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: So, who is going to sell at the open, and who is going to hold on for a potentially better price during the day? Just want everyones thought on when to sell.
I am thinking that I will have to hold 2-3 days...because it will rake that long for the brokers to do the symbol change...
Posted by SYGY on :
1.30 would be awsome!!!
Posted by skip on :
alright, I bought 50 shares
I have choicetrade, so I will likely be able to sell right away if I want to, they are usually quite quick about it. (same day change from LFWK -> SLJB and PAIV -> PAVC)
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by skip: alright, I bought 50 shares
I have choicetrade, so I will likely be able to sell right away if I want to, they are usually quite quick about it. (same day change from LFWK -> SLJB and PAIV -> PAVC)
That is good to know...the majority of my shares are with them...etrade is slow at the change...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by skip: alright, I bought 50 shares
I have choicetrade, so I will likely be able to sell right away if I want to, they are usually quite quick about it. (same day change from LFWK -> SLJB and PAIV -> PAVC)
PAIV - PAVC was just a R/S
But GLTY ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm still waiting for JPHC shares to PAIV shares!!
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I think you can do it the same day in etrade as well if you have power etrade???
Posted by Jmoove on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: I think you can do it the same day in etrade as well if you have power etrade???
nope, i have power etrade and you cant, but if you jsut call them they let you sell it even if the symbol/shares havent loaded in the system yet, supposing they have all the info
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: I think you can do it the same day in etrade as well if you have power etrade???
The last symbol change that I was involved with was with etrade...it took 3 days for them to get it done... But..I believe that you can "trade" over the phone...via their help...as long as they have the information...
My hope is that etrade has "improved" their system since the last time I went through this...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I'll be on the phone with etrade first thing in the morning once we see the new symbol. Actually, even if i dont see the new symbol i will call them.
Bah, im calling them now.
Posted by skip on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by skip: alright, I bought 50 shares
I have choicetrade, so I will likely be able to sell right away if I want to, they are usually quite quick about it. (same day change from LFWK -> SLJB and PAIV -> PAVC)
PAIV - PAVC was just a R/S
But GLTY ~
I understand that, just making the point that choicetrade is much faster than other brokers at symbol changes from what I have seen.
Posted by cassity on :
Oh my gosh, there hasn't been a trade in one minute, they must have halted trading-J/K. Anything new yet?
Posted by Jmoove on :
we need a PR about the symbol change and the rest, traders are cautious right now about buying bc the otcbb notes on the symbol change did not make a note stating that there would be a price adjustment
Posted by betting babe on :
i just called TDAm.
he said that the symbol change hasnt "actually" taken effect yet, which is why FHAL is still trading. he said it will probably take effect overnight. when i see it online is when they see it in the system... they don't have any 'special' information.
TDAm said that i may find it difficult to sell, as the shares are not tradeable until they receive (electronically) the new shares from the transfer agent.
he also said all brokers will be about the same, cuz it is up to the transfer agent.
i asked in a pinch, could i sell by phone?
he said they could consider making an exception if they had enough info, but it isnt guaranteed.
that said, im holding. but wanted 1st hand info.
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, i called and talked to a Rep at Etrade. She spoke with a trader there and confirmed that once the new symbol is made "active" it will take them a couple of days to update the system. BUT, she also confirmed that i will be able to call in and make the trade over the phone immediately. Just an FYI..........
For what its worth, i havent decided how many shares i will hold after the reset. I will NOT sell off all my shares though. This has been too crazy of a ride to get off now!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, i called and talked to a Rep at Etrade. She spoke with a trader there and confirmed that once the new symbol is made "active" it will take them a couple of days to update the system. BUT, she also confirmed that i will be able to call in and make the trade over the phone immediately. Just an FYI..........
Same info here from eTrade.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, i called and talked to a Rep at Etrade. She spoke with a trader there and confirmed that once the new symbol is made "active" it will take them a couple of days to update the system. BUT, she also confirmed that i will be able to call in and make the trade over the phone immediately. Just an FYI..........
Thanks...same as before...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
It could take a couple of days for the new symbol to become active correct? So I would imagine that the would pr the symbol change and then halt it. You never know though.
Posted by thisisfun on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: For what its worth, i havent decided how many shares i will hold after the reset. I will NOT sell off all my shares though. This has been too crazy of a ride to get off now!
i think thats what most are doing...i'm in the quiet group that doesn't really wanna sell anything though, lol...
but i think i'm looking too far ahead...probably will take out a few grand just because though...but I am going to let it settle before i do anything...
Posted by mnvestor on :
If Rufus is able to pull this off why sell at 15, he did state their is much more to come, the way I see it if everyone sells as soon as we open at 15 the price will be <5 in no time. If this goes through as planned, I will hold the majority until the dust settles and wait for CVHC to PR the price to 30
Posted by Jmoove on :
there it is
Posted by mnvestor on :
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders. We have received the New Symbol for Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD). The change will be effective Wednesday, August 9, 2006. About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Posted by 10of13 on :
News out!
Posted by Jmoove on :
now they just need to PR teh $15 per share change
Posted by SYGY on :
goody!
Posted by SYGY on :
let's rock! 1.30
Posted by skip on :
sweet, made over $3 on my 50 share buy already! Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Glass..or anyone... This new symbol is not for FHAL as we stand corrct? It is for CVSU...and nothing will change for "us" until the merger is completely announced...and the Audited financials are in...Correct?
Tomorrow..Fhal still trades as Fhal...?? The merger is not complete...Right?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Hey chartwalker....how ya doin?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
The change will be effective Wednesday, August 9, 2006.
Do we halt Wed? Rolling change?... Any ideas how this will play out?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I wonder 10 that might be the case.
Posted by portman on :
Where's the bashers? I almost miss them...NOT!
Posted by thisisfun on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Glass..or anyone... This new symbol is not for FHAL as we stand corrct? It is for CVSU...and nothing will change for "us" until the merger is completely announced...and the Audited financials are in...Correct?
Tomorrow..Fhal still trades as Fhal...?? The merger is not complete...Right?
that is what i got...but since FHAL was already acquired wouldn't that really just be CVSU anyhow?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Hey chartwalker....how ya doin?
Great day today! Just ran out of Rolaids too! ha ha ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I wonder 10 that might be the case.
I think that I am...but just looking for varification...everyone else seems to think that this symbol change is for FHAL and it's for CVSU...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Glass..or anyone... This new symbol is not for FHAL as we stand corrct? It is for CVSU...and nothing will change for "us" until the merger is completely announced...and the Audited financials are in...Correct?
Tomorrow..Fhal still trades as Fhal...?? The merger is not complete...Right?
On the otc website it clearly says FHAL is the old symbol and CSHD is the new one on 8/9. Maybe im just reading it as a laymen but i think FHAL finishes trading under this symbol today. IMO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
EOD should be unreal.... Can't even imagine what will happen!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Wow!! Between this and SLJB I am going to be rich!!! $15 in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
Posted by SYGY on :
we run up on basically nothing!!!!same stuff ,,can't wait TO ROLL!!!!UP WE GO FROM HERE ,,, HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR SHARES!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Wow!! Between this and SLJB I am going to be rich!!!
"Savor the flavor ~"
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This has been a nightmare... (for me only)
I got kicked off Allstocks last night because my Internet Explorer started to crash after about five link clicks. Ran anti virus on it and was struggling all morning litterally getting five or less IE clicks in before IE would crash. It barely allowed me into Allstocks, and Etrade but not both at the same time.
I litterally just rebuilt my laptop from the ground up in the last 50 minutes just so I wouldn't miss all this.
Anyway I am back... I know you missed me. You should know I really!!! missed all of you.
:)TB
Posted by mnvestor on :
10, 13:25 08/09/2006 FHAL Fronthaul Group, Inc. (The) Common Stock CSHD Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. Common Stock Says FHAL > CSHD, we (FHAL) trade as CSHS
Posted by dog on :
Press Release for Fronthaul Group Inc
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Updates Shareholders 8/8/2006 2:38:20 PM KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 08, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp ( FHAL ), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.
We have received the New Symbol for Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD). The change will be effective Wednesday, August 9, 2006.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions
Posted by RyanPBF on :
For some reason I'm not sure this is going to open at $15 tomorrow. I would think we would need the 10k filed correct.
Posted by Jmoove on :
Until they say in a PR that we open at $15, im not going to believe it. There were no notes or special instructions included in the otcbb notification. Be careful here, that is why the price isnt jumping like crazy, too many questions STILL
Posted by new2stocks on :
Originally Posted by Boo Radley "We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share." - Rufus Paul Harris, July 20, 2006
The halt should happen any minute, according to Mr. Harris.
Posted by thisisfun on :
yeah...the symbol is definately for FHAL...read the first line of the PR...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by thisisfun: yeah...the symbol is definately for FHAL...read the first line of the PR...
FHAL acquired CVSU...that is why it came acrossed to FHAL news...but the SYMBOL change is FOR CVSU....NOT FHAL....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Originally Posted by Boo Radley "We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share." - Rufus Paul Harris, July 20, 2006
The halt should happen any minute, according to Mr. Harris.
Good stuff new2stocks ~
Posted by Jmoove on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by thisisfun: yeah...the symbol is definately for FHAL...read the first line of the PR...
FHAL acquired CVSU...that is why it came acrossed to FHAL news...but the SYMBOL change is FOR CVSU....NOT FHAL....
read the otcbb page FHAL -> CSHD
Posted by RyanPBF on :
fhal was the surviving entity correct. So I guess the only thing that could have a symbol change would be fhal. That doesn't change the fact that we need this to be halted 10k filed and pps reset.
Posted by thisisfun on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by thisisfun: yeah...the symbol is definately for FHAL...read the first line of the PR...
FHAL acquired CVSU...that is why it came acrossed to FHAL news...but the SYMBOL change is FOR CVSU....NOT FHAL....
but read the PR...in the first sentence it says "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL )"
Posted by vinnie1 on :
this thing should be trading at 5 or more if its true that its going to 15
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: fhal was the surviving entity correct. So I guess the only thing that could have a symbol change would be fhal. That doesn't change the fact that we need this to be halted 10k filed and pps reset.
Well we still have an hour left for all of that. Posted by SYGY on :
eod 1.30 over 5 million ,,,my guess???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Guys you are hurting my head... read the back posts this has all been talked about before. Do your DD.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
1.20 4.9 mil
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Catia I've seen 10k's get filed much later than during trading hours. I guess they could let the day finish out file the 10k and reset it tomorrow. Without halting it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: fhal was the surviving entity correct. So I guess the only thing that could have a symbol change would be fhal. That doesn't change the fact that we need this to be halted 10k filed and pps reset.
Well we still have an hour left for all of that.
Actually we have more than that, they can file til 6PM est
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Guys you are hurting my head... read the back posts this has all been talked about before. Do your DD.
YUP!!!!
and
Hi Everyone!!!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, i suppose it would make sense to just let today run out. It would be nice to see something just after the bell though, its a long drive home!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I agree I can't wait to see a pr after hours
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Guys you are hurting my head... read the back posts this has all been talked about before. Do your DD.
YUP!!!!
and
Hi Everyone!!!!!
Wow...that was one hell of a long smOke!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Personally I think Rufas has been holding that "Halt" fax in his hand since August 1. It would not surprise me if he uses it.
I got my eye out for the 10K... we won't miss it.
Posted by SYGY on :
eod winding up!!!!SPRING!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Personally I think Rufas has been holding that "Halt" fax in his hand since August 1. It would not surprise me if he uses it.
I got my eye out for the 10K... we won't miss it.
Good man Tax!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Guys you are hurting my head... read the back posts this has all been talked about before. Do your DD.
YUP!!!!
and
Hi Everyone!!!!!
Wow...that was one hell of a long smOke!
Ever see Cheech and Chong??? Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, i kinda believe that he has both the halt fax AND the 10k. The 10k should be released with the project PPS for open....same thing we have always been saying i think
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: eod winding up!!!!SPRING!!!
I second that!
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for
being so nice to this newbie, the DD etc has
been very helpful. Positive attitudes even when
it looked questionable keep me going.
Not implying that it's over, far from it!
This is the best board, thanks again.
GLTA
Posted by thisisfun on :
so did anyone else look at the run up on the chart and look at volume and all?
the two million shares that traded in that hour...what do ya'll think happened there? i mean MM's with advance notice or an individual or group that got notice? can anyone tell who was actually buying?
Posted by SYGY on :
because they know where this is headed!!!15+ land!!!
Posted by SherriT on :
I just want to add that I have chewed 4 large packs of gum watching this thing, and this board, over the last few days....I'm on a sugar high that even $.50 a share couldn't touch, but here's hoping that promises ring true...
Hope that this week will be a big day for all of us!
Posted by cassity on :
So is there going to be a reverse split? J/K
Posted by betting babe on :
1.22 4.7mil
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: 1.20 4.9 mil
Posted by Synastar on :
Others have mentioned this, but I find it humorous that Absolut, PurlGurl, and other bashers in general are nowhere to be found at this point in time. I'm sure they'll resurface if Rufus hoses us over tomorrow.
Posted by betting babe on :
i worked with cheech he's really nice.
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Ever see Cheech and Chong???
Posted by Tmoney on :
has anyone called scottrade and asked them about the symbol change, i just got off the phone and they said they havent received anything about that
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: has anyone called scottrade and asked them about the symbol change, i just got off the phone and they said they havent received anything about that
Then why would anyone else call?? Do you think they lied to you... They probably have not recieved anything yet.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i worked with cheech he's really nice.
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Ever see Cheech and Chong???
Exactly our point! Doobie smokers aren't violent!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
e-trade confirmed---can be done over phone if it isn't automatic,,could take 2 days,,but can tradeover phone so thats OK!!!
Posted by Tmoney on :
different branch offices could receive informatiion at different times ever thought of that
Posted by sandor butosi on :
I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS MONSTER FOR 3 WEEKS AND FLIPPING FOR GOOD MONEY! REMEMBER CHOICE A B C. CHOICE A STATES THIS STOCK WILL OPEN AT THE LAST 20 DAYS AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE.
THESE DELAYS IN FILING ARE INTENTIONAL AND RUFUS IS WAITING FOR > 20 DAYS CLOSING AVERAGE ABOVE $1 SO WHEN CSHC OPENS IT WILL START AT ABOVE $1.
THE 10K SUCKS SO THIS IS HIS ONLY VIABLE OPTION THAT WILL BE ALLOWED BY ALL PARTIES INVOLVED!!!!!!!
I AM HAPPY THAT I WILL HAVE 1 MORE WEEK TO FLIP THIS THING.
Posted by betting babe on :
hey, thx for yelling, have a nice day
ps- please send me a copy of that 10K that you saw in advance of the rest of the world, tia!
~BB
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Actually if the deal goes through and we see our $15/share I'll hold 3/4th of my holdings until $20 or higher. Tis the reason I sleep well at night.
Posted by SherriT on :
I just called my Scottrade office, and they said "a simple symbol change should be seamless - not even have to trade by phone, though that is an option...a change in CUSIP or reverse split might take two days". I mentioned FHAL, and he didn't seem to know anything specific...
Posted by sandor butosi on :
bb THEN WHY THE DELAY?
Posted by portman on :
Oh. look I spoke too soon.
Posted by Tmoney on :
thanks SherriT
Posted by Jmoove on :
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: bb THEN WHY THE DELAY?
Stop using caps, and youve never posted anything useful, all you ever do is talk about how many times youve flipped each stock and how much money youve made. If its not in my account I dont care, stop talking.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: bb THEN WHY THE DELAY?
Actually READ the 8K...read the definition section and learn what you are talking about before you speak next.
Posted by betting babe on :
sandor, to which 'delay' are you loudly referring?
seems to me we are virtually on schedule.
~BB
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
EOD runnin' is here
Posted by 10of13 on :
Whooo hooo...let's roll!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I love the thought of Shorty picking this up today, and not being able to get out.
Posted by SYGY on :
here we GO!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: 1.22 4.7mil
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: 1.20 4.9 mil
It looks like its gonna be close BB..... Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: sandor, to which 'delay' are you loudly referring?
seems to me we are virtually on schedule.
~BB
BB, I agree with you. As there is much going on and no definitive timeline (that I know about) things are progressing nicely.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Whooo hooo...let's roll!!!
Here we go again 10!!! rollin, rollin, rollin Posted by betting babe on :
and she's comin around the corner, 15 laps to go... it's BB in the lead and MrCat at her heels, wheres the volume going folks it's any (wo)man's race... can i get a 19 theres a 19er oh yes can i get a 2, do i hear a 2, we need a couple 2's to put BB thru the gate...
(cue the announcer please)
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Whooo hooo...let's roll!!!
Here we go again 10!!! rollin, rollin, rollin
LMAO....it's just starting...roll a little..stop and wait...Roll alot...stop and wait...and then ROLL, ROLL, ROLL, ROLL!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: and she's comin around the corner, 15 laps to go... it's BB in the lead and MrCat at her heels, wheres the volume going folks it's any (wo)man's race... can i get a 19 theres a 19er oh yes can i get a 2, do i hear a 2, we need a couple 2's to put BB thru the gate...
(cue the announcer please)
~BB
Haha, another good sound mind lost to the woes of the FHAL saga
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: and she's comin around the corner, 15 laps to go... it's BB in the lead and MrCat at her heels, wheres the volume going folks it's any (wo)man's race... can i get a 19 theres a 19er oh yes can i get a 2, do i hear a 2, we need a couple 2's to put BB thru the gate...
(cue the announcer please)
~BB
you're a riot!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Cat...you need to change your tag line with the symbol change...
Posted by luvforever on :
ok, sorry I call $1.19 eod LOL
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Cat...you need to change your tag line with the symbol change...
wait for it.........waaaaaait for it.......waaaait for it.
I will as soon as i see it in my portfolio. Good idea
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
wow...we're really rolling now...moving in .001 intervals, lol...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Goin the wrooooong way heh
Posted by 10of13 on :
people jumping out...takin' profits...
Posted by betting babe on :
ptttttttthhhssssssttt <-- sound of deflation Posted by sandor butosi on :
BB HEY LOOK
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: wow...we're really rolling now...moving in .001 intervals, lol...
lol, green is green smarty pants..............
Posted by betting babe on :
what am i lookin at? your ONE STAR?
oh sry i yelled
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: BB HEY LOOK
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah i know, lol...they just can't seem to let us keep 10%...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ptttttttthhhssssssttt <-- sound of deflation
Yea i heard that too. Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, you were almost spot on with the volume there BB. The PPS would have been closer too but i think the people that were holding for an eod PR bailed last minute. Oh well, means nothing to us
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
That could have been those traders smartest, or dumbest flip ever... I am leaning toward the latter.
Posted by betting babe on :
officially close at 1.125
...and then they start passin 14s around. go figure.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
is anybody expecting tomorrow to be the day of a $15 open?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
22500 at 1.13 at 4:02
125000 at 1.0876 at 4:03
Posted by SYGY on :
well still a very good day!!
Posted by fryyguyy on :
1.0876 is the close
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: what am i lookin at? your ONE STAR?
oh sry i yelled
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: BB HEY LOOK
You just have four stars because, MOST of these guys think your hot! J/K Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i gave her 4 cuss she's really, really smart!!!
the fifth one cuss she's hot Posted by MTPromises on :
125,000 at 1.0876 after hours (ave. price)
Posted by portman on :
Expect it when you see it. Not sooner.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: and she's comin around the corner, 15 laps to go... it's BB in the lead and MrCat at her heels, wheres the volume going folks it's any (wo)man's race... can i get a 19 theres a 19er oh yes can i get a 2, do i hear a 2, we need a couple 2's to put BB thru the gate...
(cue the announcer please)
~BB
BB...You just keep getting better. Beautiful, brains and now a sense of humor to boot. WOW Posted by Synastar on :
Not sure if this means anything, but e*trade is showing the extended hours stats as Bid 1.15 x100 Ask 1.50 x1,000
Posted by unclerudy on :
I gave her 5 stars because she does NOT look like a bag of antlers.
Posted by betting babe on :
i see the after hours but i also show TDAm closing at 1.13
hey- i had those stars long before i put up my picture! i earnded them
~BB
Posted by MTPromises on :
1.1645 100,000 shares
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
100k at 1.1645 at 4:07
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh Man! that last SEC filing made me look twice. A form 3 from CONVERSION SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC.
Oh so close.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Ok this is just cruel that is two CONVERSION SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC filings now.
Posted by betting babe on :
it's a sign TaxBk. waaait for it Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It is like the SEC knows I am watching and sitting at their computer... going... SIKE! Made you look.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: it's a sign TaxBk. waaait for it
Dammit.....she stole my line
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
CONVERSION SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC 8-K
Now they file their 8K... COME ON!!!
Posted by Synastar on :
Everyone start praying to Rufus. Posted by Sean on :
quote:Originally posted by Synastar: Everyone start praying to Rufus.
haha...when I read this all I can think about is "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"...and a bunch of sleepless zombies chanting RUFUS...RUFUS...
for the humor impaired...i'm not calling everyone zombies...it's much more comical in my head...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is not fair... CVS Corp just put out their 10-Q... SIKE! AGAIN.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
damn, they're laying it out today...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by Synastar: Everyone start praying to Rufus.
haha...when I read this all I can think about is "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"...and a bunch of sleepless zombies chanting RUFUS...RUFUS...
for the humor impaired...i'm not calling everyone zombies...it's much more comical in my head...
I might resemble that remark tonight. Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Now the question is, will their be a price reset?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Now the question is, will their be a price reset?
This will be the next crisis for Springer I mean IHUB and traders-corner.
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: bb THEN WHY THE DELAY?
Actually READ the 8K...read the definition section and learn what you are talking about before you speak next.
Kinda like when a movie makes front page news about how they made at the box office opening weekend, I DONT CARE , unless I am getting a royalty on it.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by sandor butosi: bb THEN WHY THE DELAY?
Actually READ the 8K...read the definition section and learn what you are talking about before you speak next.
Kinda like when a movie makes front page news about how they made at the box office opening weekend, I DONT CARE , unless I am getting a royalty on it.
Read both his posts. he quotes the 8-k incorrectly.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I actually do not care if it opens at $15. Most people are saying they are selling there anyway which means it is not going to stay there. I am much more interested in a 10K that describes a company that should be priced at $15. Now that is something HUGE!
TB
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I feel the same way TaxBack. I'll sell 3/4 to cover my investment + little profit and I'll hold for higher than $15 dollars.
Everything happens for a reason.
Posted by SYGY on :
i'd wait for higher than 30$! anyone else??
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I just think that if this company has 500,000,000 US Dollars either in a bond or in the bank then a market cap of 69,000,000 is an insult. Investors are going to see the potential.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They might as well buy back their shares and keep it private if that is all the public funds they can muster. then there is the claim of 1.5 or 3 Billion in assests (I have heard both). That is just insane value.
Posted by SYGY on :
3.5 i believe before spin off revenues
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Heck I would be extatic with one solid Billion... I like to keep my expectations low. LOL Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I actually do not care if it opens at $15. Most people are saying they are selling there anyway which means it is not going to stay there. I am much more interested in a 10K that describes a company that should be priced at $15. Now that is something HUGE!
TB
Agreed. I'm enjoying the ride and comical banter of everyone.
Say it with me...
RUFUS... RUFUS... RUFUS... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This must be "official afterhours SEC Filing day". There are a ton of filings tonight.
Posted by SYGY on :
FHAL
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC Daily Commentary
Our system posted a BUY-IF today. The previous SELL recommendation was issued on 08.03.2006 (4) days ago, when the stock price was 1.0900. Since then FHAL has fallen -5.50% .
The BUY-IF alert is still valid. A confirmation today however is denied. The pattern is not rejected yet since the day was not a long black candlestick one. The market is currently testing your patience. Continue to do your homework by digesting all available information around.
The final judgment about the evolving pattern waits the next session. Either the alert will be confirmed by one of the valid confirmation criteria or the bullish alert will be void and null.
It is still your duty to check the confirmation criteria when the next session opens. Reminding briefly; a white candlestick with an upward gap, a white candlestick closing above previous close and a long white candlestick with a big downward gap is sufficient to confirm the BUY-IF alert though with a one day delay. Go long in any of these cases by respecting the benchmarks. In any other case, simply ignore the BUY-IF alert. The next session is the last chance we allow for confirmation. A confirmation failure renders the assumed bullish pattern totally invalid and starts the process of searching for a new pattern.
We do not yet suggest any new short positions given the bullish alert. The short sellers should consider covering their positions if the market confirms the BUY-IF signal. Otherwise, existing short positions should be carried.
Data provided by: End of Day Data
american bulls had a ?
BUY-IF
1.0300 -0.0400 -3.74%
Posted by BooDog on :
nice run .... congrats
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Does not look good for the 10K tonight. SEC has begun there last thirty minutes where they usually run through a bunch of Form 4 filings.
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Say it with me...
RUFUS... RUFUS... RUFUS...
don't you know you catch more flies with honey, honey?
rufus, please..........
rufus, si vous plait..
rufus, por favor......
cmon now there rufie, you can do it
~BB
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
SO seriously - what happens now ? The symbol changes but without the 10-K we are still trading at the same levels? Jesus if they would just put out the damn 10K and get this freakin' thing over with ! Just nuts ! Anyone talk to any of the brokers ?
Look I'm glad we went up, but Rufus needs to get that 10K out. I think this guy is really trying hard to trap the shorts in a hell of a pickle. Or they are going with option 'a' and not resetting the price. At which point will we collapse back to .08 in no time.
The symbol is changed. Next page please....
Posted by 10of13 on :
So, I stand corrected... Wednesday will be a very odd day...this will probably be moving quite quickly wish I'd be able to trade my old shares for some flippin...but oh well...this way i can't get caught out during the halt!
And also doing it this way means it will give the brokers time to get the symbol changed in order to trade after the reset of the PPS...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
so 10 do you think the PPS will change?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
What happens if this thing opens at $15 with no 10K. Shorty buys in so fast no one can drop what they have, and then he releases the 10K and the PR's. We get the ride back up and Shorty eats his own sack right?
I don't know this is difficult to speculate even.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Other than a CEO who hasn't lied to us yet and an 8K that hints heavily at reseting the price... there nothing pointing to $15 tomorrow morning.
Posted by milliam on :
The only problem with Shorty buying in at $15 is that they would actually be selling at $15...just like tons of others who actually own the stock. I just don't see the potential there for shorting unless the MM's can make a market at that price. No doubt there could be a few sells there, but I don't see many happening. Unless...Rufie's institutional buyers come in and then the shorts would have their buyers (as well as us, maybe). If that happens though, it might just hold up around that level.
So many scenarios!!!
GLTA
Posted by 10of13 on :
They can't re open this with a "reset" PPS...in the am..unless the audited financials come out tonight...Seems tomorrow will be a green day as people rush to get in...I'm kinda glad that some of my shares sold today...it gives me $ to by under the new ticker symbol in the am...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
3444 SEC filings before 6PM EST with none of any interest. Have noticed a few form 4's comming in after 6PM so there may be some opportunity to get things in afterhours. I am not betting on it. I am going to go talk to the guy who files for my company.
Posted by T e x on :
"yes, *they* can"
"NO, they *can't*
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i thought since there will be a new ticker and this is trading below the book value they are able to adjust accordingly? how would they do that after trading under the new symbol is already underway? or that what the halt is for? i guess that could be what i'm getting confused with...the ticker change and the halt...
also...in order to get that new ticker isn't it true that they have to be a fully reporting entity? meaning they already have the 10K?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
has anyone attemped to call for any type of clarification?
Posted by skip on :
it was certainly worth $63.25 to buy 50 shares and be a part of this, no matter what happens...and if I can turn that into $750 soon, well then, my girlfriend gets her engagement ring earlier than I planned... Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
I saw my name mentioned earlier.
Hi everyone.
Just established a short position earlier today at $1.20. Ever heard of a 'long squeeze'????
IMHO should be getting ready for the next leg up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS BABY'S GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLTA!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: I saw my name mentioned earlier.
Hi everyone.
Just established a short position earlier today at $1.20. Ever heard of a 'long squeeze'????
IMHO should be getting ready for the next leg up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS BABY'S GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLTA!!!!!!!!!!
wheeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
going to da moon? established a short position?
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:[/QUOTE]wheeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
going to da moon? established a short position?
[/QB]
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Sarcastic and ironic isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
GLTA!!!!!!!! ESPECIALLY ME!
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
Who's holding the most shares here anyway? Anyone have at least 50,000-100,000?
That'd be sick!
/rings register
Posted by SYGY on :
15,000 here
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "yes, *they* can"
"NO, they *can't*
LOL..Tex...did you get some new toys?
And In your opinon...don't they have to wait for the audited financials in order to use that 368 rule or what ever it is called?
I must admit...I am very confused now...because IF this is going to be trading under the new ticker...and the new name...and they have already verified that FHAL has "acquired" CVSU...
then the assets of CVSU are now the assets of FHAL...but then again they are waiting for audited financials for the end of what may of 06?
So that must be the key to them halting the PPS and showing new assets...they acquired this AFTER the time frame?!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Who's holding the most shares here anyway? Anyone have at least 50,000-100,000?
That'd be sick!
/rings register
do you post ingenuously?
are you saying you're "hedging," by going short and going long?
seriously? how are you both short and long?
Posted by 10of13 on :
tex...can you shoot em with that arrow?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: tex...can you shoot em with that arrow?
sure...
lol, kinda into slings at the moment, dah'ling...
are you an archery buff?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Not really...but I enjoy it some...I saw your arrows on the other thread...
Posted by Firedog on :
I have been holding this for a while and for a newbie I have been trying to keep up and understand what is going on. I think for the most part my dog paddeling is not keeping my head above water. Does anyone have a definate date that this should be over. Or is their just no telling.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Firedog: I have been holding this for a while and for a newbie I have been trying to keep up and understand what is going on. I think for the most part my dog paddeling is not keeping my head above water. Does anyone have a definate date that this should be over. Or is their just no telling.
LOL..not laughing at you...laughing with you...no one really knows..wish we did...but we don't...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK talked to the PR lady at my company and she said that they are able to file any time of the day or night to make a deadline if they have too. SEC only looks at them from 6 to 6 everyday so anything filed tonight will be looked at first thing tomorrow morning. So I am going to talk to my wife about cleaning the basement tonight since I already cleaned the garage and I am obviously not sleeping tonight. Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: tex...can you shoot em with that arrow?
"'em" is actually the abbreviation for "them" so you'd actually want to write, "'im" for "him" unless you are pluralizing me? But that still wouldn't make sense.
Thanks.
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Who's holding the most shares here anyway? Anyone have at least 50,000-100,000?
That'd be sick!
/rings register
do you post ingenuously?
are you saying you're "hedging," by going short and going long?
seriously? how are you both short and long?
No, man. I am simply making a play. I sold a couple thousand shares short at $1.20 and will cover when I make .20 ticks.
Just padding my wallet.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So how much os the float is in the hands of people like us and how much is in the hands of insiders and other much larger entities? Any guesses? The reason I ask is becasue, if we don't hold the lions share then a sell off at $15 won't be very hard to keep at bay. Just a thought. Any thoughts from the vets here?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Bud is back on Ihub again...now he's saying something about the train being fully loaded. I guess he has to speak in code to avoid giving away info. Sounds to me like this guy is in the know and is confident about what is going to happen.
Onto tomorrow ! Wheeeee ! Man we are all going to need a few drinks by Friday I have a feeling...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: But that still wouldn't make sense.
Thanks.
I was thinking the same about you...
Good luck on going long, or short, or shorting or what ever you are attempting...
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
Thanks, you too.
This thing is volatile and usually good for a day trade, almost every day.
Posted by cassity on :
It's gunnna be hard to sleep tonight! Man, this has been one heck of a ride. I can't imagine how enjoyable my summer would have been if I wouldn't have met my darling FHAL! I hope for the best for all of you that sucked it up and held with me! I hope Rufus is as ready to rock as the rest of us. GLTA
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Absolut_swing did ya' get a new broker?
Absolut_Swing Member
Rate Member posted July 28, 2006 14:02 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by cool AZ: What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Full disclosure, I have no position whatsoever in FHAL.
I originally heard about it on a forum at myspace when it made a little bounce at around .15 cents(?) and then paid no mind. Later on, I realized this same stock that was at $1.50 was actually the one they mentioned on myspace.
I would have loved to have been on this ride, but truthfully, at this point, if my broker allowed me to, I would be short this stock. -------------------- Paranoia, fear and greed is good.
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Absolut_swing did ya' get a new broker?
Absolut_Swing Member
Rate Member posted July 28, 2006 14:02 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by cool AZ: What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Full disclosure, I have no position whatsoever in FHAL.
I originally heard about it on a forum at myspace when it made a little bounce at around .15 cents(?) and then paid no mind. Later on, I realized this same stock that was at $1.50 was actually the one they mentioned on myspace.
I would have loved to have been on this ride, but truthfully, at this point, if my broker allowed me to, I would be short this stock. -------------------- Paranoia, fear and greed is good.
Here's my thinking... I'm sure you will all correct me if I'm wrong, or possibly question my sanity..
It's official that tomorrow in the market there is no longer FHAL, as it will now be CSHD.
Most brokerage firms in the past threads (Scottrade, Ameritrade, ETrade) do not have any info or changes at end of day to change the symbol, by my recollection and double check with my Scottrade.
Either a symbol change is dirt simple (a couple of key strokes on a computer) and we all wake up with FHAL replaced by the letters CSHD in our portfolios... and we trade as normal. Problem... no way do I see them all being "equal" and on time in this change. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if some are trying to trade FHAL while others are getting CSHD. I really feel like they would have to halt for this... at least for a half day, maybe a whole day. Whether the price is reset is another question.
Also, as in previous posts, a symbol change for the company is only done to clarify a financially viable new entity... hence there has to be a finished 10k that would support this change in order to allow future trading of this new company stock.
I just can't see this trading tomorrow in the AM, unless the change to the new symbol is easy and UNIVERSAL in timing (which I doubt). Even if the symbol has appropriately changed for all.. would this not point to a positive for this new company... increasing interest and hype... PPS goes up. To what I have no idea.
The logical thing would be to halt immediately in the AM, release the 10K, let Rufus hype the company to the MM's and the world, open Thursday as CSHD without confusion and improved financial specs.
I just can't see us trading in the AM... FHAL is no more... and not everybody is even on the same page yet.
Whatever... don't see it staying near the dollar mark anymore... Posted by dog on :
CSHD = CaSh in HanD ... soon I hope!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: But that still wouldn't make sense.
Thanks.
I was thinking the same about you...
Good luck on going long, or short, or shorting or what ever you are attempting...
10, I am pretty sure he, him, they is/are short. I hear XKEM has some "herbal drugs" to fix that. He might want to call Pandy first though.
Posted by dog on :
Scottrade does not as yet have CSHD as a viable symbol yet... please let us know as soon as someone is able to pull it up on their online trade account. In the research or "watch" section... not the ticker as it shows up there for me.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL portman...I don't think there's anything to "fix" this particualr condition...(BS syndrome)...
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: I saw my name mentioned earlier.
Hi everyone.
Just established a short position earlier today at $1.20. Ever heard of a 'long squeeze'????
IMHO should be getting ready for the next leg up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS BABY'S GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLTA!!!!!!!!!!
Enough of 'to the moon' garbage. Why not to Pluto ? It is further away.
Posted by Firedog on :
I have been holding this for a while and for a newbie I have been trying to keep up and understand what is going on. I think for the most part my dog paddeling is not keeping my head above water. Does anyone have a definate date that this should be over. Or is their just no telling.
Posted by portman on :
Firedog, Read the newbie section, watch, listen (er read) and ask questions.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well I have had dinner and a couple beers and I think I have a perfect picture of the most perposterous, wild, speculative, and wishful outcome for the remainder of the evening. So here it goes.
Rufas submits the 10K tonight and it is first thing on the SEC's desk tomorrow. CSHD apears in all our accounts and the open price is set to $15, just like the CEO promised. As soon as the bell rings there is an army of institutional investors waiting for cheap $14 shares after reading the promised "glowing" 10K including Rufas and Ben, and Georgia Aerospace. When selling pressure picks up and the price begins to slip, a barrage of two or three meaty PR's to let it close at the new high of the day. We all scream we love Rufas, and go to our brokerage accounts to look at our montains of money.
I told you it was wild, perposterous, speculative, and wishful.
Floating back to reality... hmmm I wonder what will happen. Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: 125,000 at 1.0876 after hours (ave. price)
Is this larger than the normal after hours volume, MT?
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Anyone know if P Rowds is still in or did he sell?
Still in fryyguyy... been busy busy on this end. when i got in this i was in pittsburgh with all the time in the world for DD/tele calls to Rufus and Ben. Then i had to fly to denver for a week, then to wisconsin where i currently am, then this sunday i fly to atlanta for 3 weeks, and after that nice little stay i'll be in baghdad, iraq as a civie contractor. Who knows, if all goes well before i take off in september i'll see if rufus and ben want to get a drink or some dinner:). My work office is probably about a 20-30 min drive from theirs;) sorry all for not pitchin in anymore... wish i could but just too busy. Nice to see some good ppl are still in here putting out some good info... gl all and i'll check in from time to time...
Posted by sceptor on :
Shake their hands for all of us.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
P Rowds,
Civie here also will be flying in Iraq here in the fall on an AF A/C
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Where's my buddy MT?... Goodnight all catch ya in the AM ~
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
As defined in Rule 203(c)(6) of Regulation SHO, a “threshold security” is any equity security of any issuer that is registered under Section 12 of the Exchange Act, or that is required to file reports under Section 15(d) of the Exchange Act (commonly referred to as reporting securities), where, for five consecutive settlement days: There are aggregate fails to deliver at a registered clearing agency of 10,000 shares or more per security;
The level of fails is equal to at least one-half of one percent of the issuer’s total shares outstanding; and
The security is included on a list published by a self-regulatory organization (SRO). A security ceases to be a threshold security if it does not exceed the specified level of fails for five consecutive settlement days.
Posted by portman on :
A short sale is the sale of a security that the seller does not own and any sale that is consummated by the delivery of a security borrowed by, or for the account of, the seller. In order to deliver the security to the purchaser, the short seller will borrow the security, typically from a broker-dealer or an institutional investor. The short seller later closes out the position by purchasing equivalent securities on the open market, or by using an equivalent security it already owned, and returning the borrowed security to the lender. In general, short selling is used to profit from an expected downward price movement, to provide liquidity in response to unanticipated demand, or to hedge the risk of a long position in the same security or in a related security. Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Where's my buddy MT?... Goodnight all catch ya in the AM ~
Chart - just catchin' up - not as busy as P Rowds but my big move to Minneapolis is Friday so I spent yesterday and today moving a 17-ft U-Haul worth of stuff we "don't need right now" - makes me laugh because a lot of stuff fits in a 17-ft U-Haul!
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: I saw my name mentioned earlier.
Hi everyone.
Just established a short position earlier today at $1.20. Ever heard of a 'long squeeze'????
IMHO should be getting ready for the next leg up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS BABY'S GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLTA!!!!!!!!!!
I'm curious about what broker you're using and what requirements they have for short selling of penny stocks. Thanks.
Posted by sceptor on :
Etrader's check your fhal bids and asks. you are first to change it seems.
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: 125,000 at 1.0876 after hours (ave. price)
Is this larger than the normal after hours volume, MT?
Kitty, As of late, the answer for FHAL is yes. There were over 270,000 shares traded after hours today. Without going back and checking I want to say that the after hours shares prior to today was typically under 50,000.
Posted by 10of13 on :
My etrade account show FHAL and the number of shares...and 0.00 for the value...
Posted by Vin on :
Ok, my etrade account has dropped the entire value for FHAL, and shows a current price of 0. Somethings going on!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I hate how scottrade is so slow Posted by Vin on :
...sorry 10, didn't see your post. Looks like we're seeing the same thing. etrade also cancelled my GTC order.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Fidelity now shows "invalid symbol" with a zero balance. (this is on the Active Trader Pro ticker....it still shows as FHAL in my balance and positions screen, although it you try and get a quote, it tells you it's an unknown symbol)
Jo
Posted by betting babe on :
TDAmeritrade hasnt changed a bit Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You Etraders are seeing things I am looking at my Etrade and it shows zeros on the day's range but I can still quote FHAL and the numbers are still good. I do expect it to change soon but currently it doesn't look that out of place.
Posted by Vin on :
Etrade here. Hoping things update further soon. Showing $0 value, which reflects a -100% total gain. Damn UGLY to have to look at! Plus, my entire account value has been reduced by the amount of my FHAL stock. Wondering where in space my money is hanging. I'm sure this will clear up by morning. Well, at least hoping it will.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I have gone to etrade, ameritrade, fidelity, and otcbb and all still quot FHAL as it closed today.
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Bud is back on Ihub again...now he's saying something about the train being fully loaded. I guess he has to speak in code to avoid giving away info. Sounds to me like this guy is in the know and is confident about what is going to happen.
Onto tomorrow ! Wheeeee ! Man we are all going to need a few drinks by Friday I have a feeling...
Uncle Smelly: thought you're gonna dump your shares today what happened?Change of mind? Posted by Vin on :
So have we pinned down that for right now, we'll be trading at todays close? Would sure love to see that $15 pop up there when etrade updates, although timing without 10k would probably not help things at all.
Posted by betting babe on :
uncle smelly's allergies made him money today
i wish i had that kinda luck!
Posted by JohnDoe on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: But that still wouldn't make sense.
Thanks.
I was thinking the same about you...
Good luck on going long, or short, or shorting or what ever you are attempting...
10, I am pretty sure he, him, they is/are short. I hear XKEM has some "herbal drugs" to fix that. He might want to call Pandy first though.
hahaha good one..
Posted by betting babe on :
looks like TDAmeritrade has started the changeover.
if i click on the "other balances" tab it appears that i am in the red for my entire balance of the FHAL shares value.
um, thats kinda scary.
not only did they take my money but they have it listed as a big ol' red negative margin equity
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
it'll be negative 'till the shares are delivered....
they consider your position short, because the new shares aren't in yet...
this discourages selling....
if you sell and the shares never show up? yuk...
not trying to be negative just pragmatic...
i went thru that last year on a dividend...
the dividend shares were slow arriving, but they did arrive...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Whhaaawhaaa....I want my money back...!!!! I have a bunch of FHAL that are valued at nothing...in my etrade account... But good old choicetrade still has them valued... Posted by 10of13 on :
JohnDoe...I don't think that he actually got the joke...
Posted by MTPromises on :
I know there was some speculation recently about how we've been able to maintain a closing price above $1 and why that may be beneficial. But in regards to listing on the nasdaq, the $1 price only pertains to a "Continued Listing". The following link shows in detail the requirements for initial listings and continued listings on the nasdaq.
No value? Maybe those bashers were right afterall! Posted by glassman on :
never know until you sell it vin....
could be worth 15$ for ONE trade of 100 shares...
everybody knowed that when they bought...
this place is has more bluffers than the world championship of poker... Posted by betting babe on :
glassssssss dont say thaaaaaaaaat
positive thinking, positive thinking Posted by glassman on :
sorry BB, i guess it's late for goofing around huh?...
after all this? we both know it already is what it is .... it's just a matter of finding out where we are going...
i have enough to be interested here... and let's just say if it doesn't work? i won't be kicking the dog... Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Bud is back on Ihub again...now he's saying something about the train being fully loaded. I guess he has to speak in code to avoid giving away info. Sounds to me like this guy is in the know and is confident about what is going to happen.
Onto tomorrow ! Wheeeee ! Man we are all going to need a few drinks by Friday I have a feeling...
Uncle Smelly: thought you're gonna dump your shares today what happened?Change of mind?
John as I posted earlier today, I had planned to get up at 6:30am (9:30 Est) and sell. Well because of my bad allergies I overslept and didn't wake up until later. By that time things were looking great so I held. Luck of draw ! I will hold for now.
BTW Schwab still shows my 5K FHAL shares and a value for them. Why do I have the feeling these bozos will be the last to change ?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
God help any shorts caught after this halts. Can you imagine being short 5k shares + and we open at 15, and only go down to 7 or 8 ? I tell you what if I were short I would be covering my ass off tomorrow morning, too many things are now leaning in the direction of this actually happening.
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Whhaaawhaaa....I want my money back...!!!! I have a bunch of FHAL that are valued at nothing...in my etrade account... But good old choicetrade still has them valued...
Don't worry, the symbol FHAL has no meaning as of today...
Posted by SYGY on :
FHAL
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC Daily Commentary
Our system posted a BUY CONFIRMED today. The previous SELL recommendation was issued on 08.03.2006 (5) days ago, when the stock price was 1.0900. Since then FHAL has gained 3.21% .
BUY-IF is confirmed by a white candlestick with a lower open and a higher close. The buying price is the previous close ( 1.0300 ) according to the Rules of Confirmation.
Patience pays off. The market wavered a bit but finally confirmed the recent bullish formation. The dose of the previous day was not enough for a BUY-IF confirmation but today it is. Though the market opened lower today, the day’s activity created a white candlestick that closed above the previous close. This is a valid confirmation criterion. The market seems ready for a new bullish move.
The slight failure of the previous SELL signal is currently confirmed, too. We closely monitor the performance of the signals, but a few shots missing the target slightly are inevitable when you deal with the stock market. However, such signal failures are more unlikely for higher rated stocks.
We hope that you acted quickly and already bought this stock . Your important benchmark today was the previous close. Today you were supposed to watch the session carefully, feel its bullish tendency despite the lower opening, and go long after making sure that the prices stay over the previous close.
If you bought, continue to hold this stock until the confirmation of the next SELL-IF signal. You are on relatively safe grounds as long as the future prices continue to trade above the benchmark price and if an emergency warning is not issued. What to do if you did not buy? Maybe you did not have time to follow the session or you simply delegated the delicate job of confirmation to us. Well, it is a bit late, but not too late. You may still find suitable prices for buying in the following sessions.
Stock Quote Day's Close 1.1250 Previous Close 1.0300 Previous Open 1.1050 Change +0.0950 % Change +9.22% Volume 5,044,954 Stock Activity Day's Open 1.0030 Day's High 1.4500 Day's Low 0.9600 50-Day Close M.A. 0.8990 200-Day Close M.A. 0.4094 65-Day Volume M.A. 2,800,160
Posted by sceptor on :
this should help to see the next couple of days.
quote:I guessing trading as FHAL is done...we'll know in a few hours.
I'm also guessing, Mr. Harris will need a bit of time to get his paperwork edgarized and out to the public. 10K's are massive documents.
But most importantly, the DTC will control whether or not this trades tommorow or some other date...I wouldn't be surprised if they put things on hold for a couple days to get everything together...an interesting note...even if we can't trade the stock publicly...the MM's are still able to trade amoungst themselves. Theoretically, curing their shorts if they so choose. With out wild swings from the DT's.
I wouldn't expect the stock to actually trade until Friday or maybe even Monday depending on the MM's.
Peace
quote:Very good however, My stance is the DTC has already halted the trading. Not Rufus. Generally, the DTC will notify the Broker dealers of the ticker change and they don't want a bunch of trades to keep up with...especially if what Mr. Harris says is true about the new price...
1. Already Halted 2. 10K and S-4 3. PR's 4. Resume trading within a few days...with new stock price based on 10K info
Similiar to Mr. Radley's thoughts....
Posted by malchiang on :
how high can this stock go? looks very tempting
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
malchiang, when it looks to good to be true it is not true :=) just keep that in mind for fhal...personally i have no idea what is going to happen but what i don't understand is IF 15 dollars is the new price why insiders and other people did not buy more so the price would have been at a few bucks at least before the merger is actually a fact... but we will see :=)
Posted by DDA on :
*********,
Could be that they already have enough. Ref LFWK : they bought the float.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Etrader's check your fhal bids and asks. you are first to change it seems.
Sweet, my portfolio is all 0's and it still says FHAL. Thats sort of nervewracking.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by *********06: malchiang, when it looks to good to be true it is not true :=) just keep that in mind for fhal...personally i have no idea what is going to happen but what i don't understand is IF 15 dollars is the new price why insiders and other people did not buy more so the price would have been at a few bucks at least before the merger is actually a fact... but we will see :=)
Read the 8-k and the prior DD.
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Etrader's check your fhal bids and asks. you are first to change it seems.
Sweet, my portfolio is all 0's and it still says FHAL. Thats sort of nervewracking.
Yeah, that scared me this morning too.
Posted by portman on :
TDA has (*CSHD*).
TDA lookup still shows invalid symbol so it is in the works.
As of this PIT (Point in time).
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by *********06: malchiang, when it looks to good to be true it is not true :=) just keep that in mind for fhal...personally i have no idea what is going to happen but what i don't understand is IF 15 dollars is the new price why insiders and other people did not buy more so the price would have been at a few bucks at least before the merger is actually a fact... but we will see :=)
you need change your screen name, you are misleading others with it. You dont have the first clue about this stock, so please stop confusing others with your ignorance.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning All!!!
Yes, confusion will be the enemy on this in the up coming days, nice to have some things laid out at least with a timeline.
Sceptor, Taxback, 10of13, RProwds and even New2stocks (-just to name a few) have posted good solid questions and answers here. I look forward to even more adventures together in the future with you all
GLTA ~
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Well Etrade Cancelled my GTC trade in FHAL last night for $12. It has only been a week since I put that in. Usually they cancel after 30 days.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Scottrade shows FHAL# with 0 balance. I was able to add CSHD to my watch list but that's because it's a real symbol now/today. I emailed Scottrade yesterday to forwarn them to watch for the change but haven't heard back yet. They have always been very good about responding via email.
Today could get interesting. Posted by fryyguyy on :
CSHD.ob shows up on Yahoo Finance as Fronthaul Group.
Posted by djg7 on :
CSHD L2s
Bid 1 x 1.128 1 x 1.124 1 x 1.12 Ask 1 x 1.129 1 x 1.14 1 x 1.145
Posted by coalkickin on :
They better PR....people will panic being Rufus stated that after the symbol change, it would open at 15.00....could be a big sell off this a.m.
Posted by MTPromises on :
fryyguyy, that's weird because I have Scottrade and mine shows FHAL# but with my balance
I'm showing CSHD with the same Level II, djg7 - FHAL still shows up but there's no color coding - all grey
Posted by MTPromises on :
my GTC order I placed last night was also cancelled
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: They better PR....people will panic being Rufus stated that after the symbol change, it would open at 15.00....could be a big sell off this a.m.
Like I said, confusion will be the emeny. They can't reset the price till the 10k comes out, I wonder how many people know that?...
My guess is that we won't be able to trade today, I may be wrong, maybe it will trade, we will see...
But, what HAS NOT CHANGED is the deal and the company!!!
IMO I wouldn't sell off if we are trading, wait for the PR, the 10k and the reset ~
GLTA -and keep a cool head today, don't trade on emotions ~
Posted by coalkickin on :
Yeah...I know about the 10k, and I have no intention of selling...
Posted by djg7 on :
It seems that all the eggs are not in the basket at this time. I agree with Chartwalker at this time that the price can't be reset until the 10k is disclosed. Patience is a virtue in this case.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: Yeah...I know about the 10k, and I have no intention of selling...
-was writing for everyone here, been through this once before
Have a good one!
Posted by djg7 on :
Should we start a new thread "CSHD formerly FHAL"?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
www. otcbb . com/ marketwatch/
No current trading halts... FYI ~ NOT that I would sell!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Should we start a new thread "CSHD formerly FHAL"?
I don't think just yet, it may only add to the confusion. JMO
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: www. otcbb . com/ marketwatch/
No current trading halts... FYI ~ NOT that I would sell!
Yea, i saw that too. I guess we are going to open under the new symbol today. Im going to remain positive for as long as possible. Posted by Chartwalker on :
I still don't show that I'm a owner of CSHD stock yet in my account at Scottrade, so it may be active but we may not be able to trade it because we don't have them yet.
No need to panic IMO.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
My TDA account shows (*CSHD*) no fhal anymore. I don't have any L2's on CSHD though.
Posted by coalkickin on :
Still showing fhal in Choicetrade as well...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
If I type in FHAL in my streamer it shows me the L2's that you guys are talking about. It doesn't show them to me under CSHC
Posted by unclerudy on :
FHAL is showing in Fidelity, but if I look up the symbol, it says that it is not a valid symbol.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
The "ASK" price in Scottrade has gone up to $1.13
???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Interesting... in my Etrade account I pulled up the streaming quotes for open FHAL is 0.00 x 0.00 so I added CSHD for giggles. CSHD is 1.124 x 1.13
GLTA.
Thanks for the kind word Chartwalker hope to see you on the next play too.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I put in some stop limit sells on my other stocks this morning. If something goes I may buy more CSHD/FHAL (or whatever it is) if it dips.
Posted by MTPromises on :
yes, Chart, the L2s are changing premarket for CSHD
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: The "ASK" price in Scottrade has gone up to $1.13
???
Yea, in Etrade it shows FHAL at -1.125 and when i put CSHD on my watchlist it shows it as 1.125 up.
Edit : Ok, actually CSHD in my Etrade watchlist just shows ------
Posted by coalkickin on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: If I type in FHAL in my streamer it shows me the L2's that you guys are talking about. It doesn't show them to me under CSHC
try cshd
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Whatever fly's I'm LONG till the reset
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Sorry I typed it wrong on the thread. It just doesn't show up in my account with l2's if I type in the symbol it gives me the l2's
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I'm long also... gotta wait for the 10K... none of us can shore up anything till then.
Posted by coalkickin on :
ask creeping up
Posted by RyanPBF on :
well it looks like I'm dead in the water electronically. If anything happens I'll have to call an order in.
Posted by Danny_K on :
TDameritrade:
My portfolio shows (*CSHD*) I have L2s for FHAL and CSHD both are completly differnt.
Interesting.. hrmmmmm one step closer Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I have my eye on the SEC filing, but I have no clue what company I am looking for. I did filter all of this mornings SEC.gov filing by CIK number and both names so I know there is nothing yet. Posted by Chartwalker on :
As long as it keeps going up lol ~
Posted by MTPromises on :
now at 2 x 1.14
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning all! Looks like we'll be losing a friend soon, FHAL. It would be like falling in love and then someone tells you her name is no longer Meridith, it's now Sally. So, goodbye FHAL and hello CSHC! OK Scottrade, you can make the change now!
I personally plan on carefully watching, particularly how the fundamentals change from what we now know. If I sell any, I may sell a portion of 10 - 20%. The remainder I will decide as we learn more.
As to when to sell, considering the short positions to be covered, the low float, the news of the 10k and pr's, etc., I plan to watch and wait. GLTA
Posted by djg7 on :
I would think this would go up today in anticipation of the 10k. Of course, nothing seems to follow logic these days.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
No hold on OTCBB at this time... we are going to open CSHD.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Open at 1.13
Posted by coalkickin on :
I think it will dip if no explanation (10K) as to why it did not open at 15
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: I think it will dip if no explanation (10K) as to why it did not open at 15
Hope not, cause there really isn't a reason to sell IMO, we are one step closer to the filing and the reset now!!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
All stocks naturally dip. That is a very common thing just as going up. Most people understand since the $15 pps didn't happen so we'll wait till it does or the 10-k says different.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Bit of a climb here.
Posted by MTPromises on :
movin'!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I like what I'm seeing Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: All stocks naturally dip. That is a very common thing just as going up. Most people understand since the $15 pps didn't happen so we'll wait till it does or the 10-k says different.
Yeah and the rest of us can't do anything if we wanted too. Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: All stocks naturally dip. That is a very common thing just as going up. Most people understand since the $15 pps didn't happen so we'll wait till it does or the 10-k says different.
Yeah and the rest of us can't do anything if we wanted too.
Must be "new money"
Posted by mathis on :
for the people who have scottrade, when you view your balance does it say FHAL#? Also you cant trade with CSHD
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Actually I think you can if you call in and place an order through your broker. They most likely understand they will be getting their shares and will not have any problems with it.
Like I said I'll hold Posted by Stockstar69 on :
New thread up for CSHD!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: All stocks naturally dip. That is a very common thing just as going up. Most people understand since the $15 pps didn't happen so we'll wait till it does or the 10-k says different.
Yeah and the rest of us can't do anything if we wanted too.
Must be "new money"
If you read correctly I've been here before you . Just maybe not this thread.
Posted by MTPromises on :
so, if I make a purchase today - will I have FHAL# shares and CSHD shares in my account? - weird
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
CSHD shares. FHAL is no longer.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: All stocks naturally dip. That is a very common thing just as going up. Most people understand since the $15 pps didn't happen so we'll wait till it does or the 10-k says different.
Yeah and the rest of us can't do anything if we wanted too.
Must be "new money"
If you read correctly I've been here before you . Just maybe not this thread.
oh, no... I meant the one's buying it today
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Oh, I see. No, I've been trading FHAL since 06/14/06.
Posted by MTPromises on :
bunch of small transactions going through below the bid
Posted by djg7 on :
Looks like we'll be on a rollercoaster ride until 10k pr comes out. Enjoy the fun.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Wow, seems to be moving very well for not being able to trade online so easily today. hmmmm....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
has anyone who has shares placed a sell yet? Just wondering?
I'm LONG-long long Posted by mathis on :
sorry for the noob question, but cant this benefit us better by waiting on the 10k? Say the 10k is release a few days from now after everyones brokerage account has been updated and able to trade. When they release the 10k and then a reset on the price cant we all trade that same day since the hault on the new symbol already took place? sorry if this is confusing
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I would imagine most everyone is sitting in place waiting for that 10-k.
I'm long too. Looking for more than $15 pps!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by mathis: sorry for the noob question, but cant this benefit us better by waiting on the 10k? Say the 10k is release a few days from now after everyones brokerage account has been updated and able to trade. When they release the 10k and then a reset on the price cant we all trade that same day since the hault on the new symbol already took place? sorry if this is confusing
Thats what i was thinking as well. This could be beneficial so that all brokers have the new certs before the reset. It would be kind of nice if that was the case.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by mathis: sorry for the noob question, but cant this benefit us better by waiting on the 10k? Say the 10k is release a few days from now after everyones brokerage account has been updated and able to trade. When they release the 10k and then a reset on the price cant we all trade that same day since the hault on the new symbol already took place? sorry if this is confusing
I use Scottrade and mine says FHAL# as well...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I dont want to be able to sell but id sure like to watch this on my streamer!!! But, it wont stream in Etrade for me. Posted by Porkchop Jihad on :
On E-Trade, My Portfolio still shows FHAL,which is not trading, but I can also look * CSHD. Both Charts are exactly the same??? $1.14 WTF? I thought FHAL was going away??
Posted by icraig21 on :
I use choicetrade and I called them this morning and they switched my symbol for me. If you have choicetrade, give them a call, it took less than 5 minutes to do.
P.S. Etrade sucks (I'll bash them every chance I get. They screwed me twice so I switched to choicetrade and couldn't be happier)
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
my L2's and charts and everything else are all up and running for the symbol CSHD...
on Power E*Trade
Posted by MTPromises on :
I put in an order at 1.08 but I missed it as the price was rebounding.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
well.... The market seems to "like" our stock I think! We all may be having an early Christmas after all! Posted by mathis on :
WEIRD..on my scottrade for PREV CLOSE it says CSHD 1.12 FHAL 1.125 im confused i did not see this earlier
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Scottrade is all up and running, charts, quotes etc. But my shares are not there yet.
Just a FYI Posted by luvforever on :
Mine too! GOOOD MORNING! Let's see what the excitement is all about...LOL Posted by coalkickin on :
Same with Choicetrade
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i'm shocked...with no news I figured we'd be dead in the water...
Posted by MTPromises on :
OK. That's weird. That limit order I placed earlier did go through. so, yes, I now have FHAL# and CSHD shares.
Posted by SYGY on :
morning!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
love this! Back at the HOD!
Posted by luvforever on :
WOW! I want to know who is trading? Someone was waiting for the symbol change and was waiting. Is this considered nasdaq and if so could it be some institutional companies? Cause they usually don't trade pennies and this isn't considered pennies now is it?? Just a silly idea???? LOL I'll take everyones opinions TIA
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
So.....did getting the new symbol CHANGE ANYTHING??? Doesn't look like it. Wtf Rufus.
Posted by Synastar on :
Called e*trade. They said we should be good to go tomorrow.
EDIT: As discussed yesterday, if you want to sell today, you have to call.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: So.....did getting the new symbol CHANGE ANYTHING??? Doesn't look like it. Wtf Rufus.
Yes! Got us one step closer to the price reset. Waiting for 10k now Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
This blows. Im old school today with 20 minute delayed quotes!! Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: WOW! I want to know who is trading? Someone was waiting for the symbol change and was waiting. Is this considered nasdaq and if so could it be some institutional companies? Cause they usually don't trade pennies and this isn't considered pennies now is it?? Just a silly idea???? LOL I'll take everyones opinions TIA
Flippers are having a hay day with this...let them play now...and yes this is still a penny...anything under $5 is considered a penny...
Posted by Porkchop Jihad on :
On E-Trade, My Portfolio still shows FHAL,which is not trading, but I can also look * CSHD. Both Charts are exactly the same??? $1.14 WTF? I thought FHAL was going away??
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anyone using Choicetrade? We can trade this by going to our positions page...and there are our shares under cshd and TRADABLE! Whoo hoo!
Posted by coalkickin on :
Yep....Thanks 10...BTW, I just placed a call to Rufus and got his voice mail, I will try again shortly
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Anyone using Choicetrade? We can trade this by going to our positions page...and there are our shares under cshd and TRADABLE! Whoo hoo!
That is good news! Hopefully I'll be next, it would be nice to have everything ready for the BIG DAY $15
Posted by portman on :
Once again...Choicetrade shows us the way...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think that it is gunna take a bit for all the changes to be absorbed by the market... Things are bound to take a while to shift around...
I am not even gunna watch this today....I'll give um some time to get all the glitches out
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I think that it is gunna take a bit for all the changes to be absorbed by the market... Things are bound to take a while to shift around...
I am not even gunna watch this today....I'll give um some time to get all the glitches out
Going for another toke....er....smoke?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Catia...you're Power E*Trade isn't working? Like I said earlier...mine is up and running and realtime...maybe close your's and reboot it?
and I am refering to CSHD specifically...even my Acct Position box is fine...showing the gains and all...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Im not running Power Etrade. I started to set it up and then got distracted. Can only blame myself now eh? Posted by maumee river rat on :
Gave that chit up along time ago...LOL
Ameritrade is still all F-d up....
Shows the new symbol on positions pg, but when you click on it, it says it is invalid...
Gotta love that ....
idiots!!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I think that it is gunna take a bit for all the changes to be absorbed by the market... Things are bound to take a while to shift around...
I am not even gunna watch this today....I'll give um some time to get all the glitches out
Coward...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
oh ok...it's funny you mention that...it actually took me about three tries before I could get it to work for me...
Posted by malchiang on :
when is the news coming out?
Posted by betting babe on :
TDAmtrade told me yesterday that it wouldnt show valid until they received the certificates from the transfer agent.
anyway, good morning all look at my horoscope today!
~Here is your horoscope for Wednesday, August 9: Pack up those troubles and smile, smile, smile. A personal struggle that has plagued you for far too long is about to come to a happy conclusion. Your financial situation will take an immediate upswing as a result~
~BB
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: TDAmtrade told me yesterday that it wouldnt show valid until they received the certificates from the transfer agent.
anyway, good morning all look at my horoscope today!
~Here is your horoscope for Wednesday, August 9: Pack up those troubles and smile, smile, smile. A personal struggle that has plagued you for far too long is about to come to a happy conclusion. Your financial situation will take an immediate upswing as a result~
~BB
I suddenly really hope you're a Libra.
Posted by cassity on :
The word on the street, is everything is going down tomorrow. Who no's the guy I'm talking about has been right lately though. GLTA
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: TDAmtrade told me yesterday that it wouldnt show valid until they received the certificates from the transfer agent.
anyway, good morning all look at my horoscope today!
~Here is your horoscope for Wednesday, August 9: Pack up those troubles and smile, smile, smile. A personal struggle that has plagued you for far too long is about to come to a happy conclusion. Your financial situation will take an immediate upswing as a result~
~BB
Good morning BB. I like the horoscope.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Good luck with TDA and getting your shares in a timely manner with them.
I'm still waiting on TDA to get the transfer of PAIV/PAVC shares that ChoiceTrade Customers got last Friday.
My FHAL shares are with Fidelity and it looks like they are going to be just as slow. I have already put in my paperwork for a new ChoiceTrade Account
Jo
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: The word on the street, is everything is going down tomorrow. Who no's the guy I'm talking about has been right lately though. GLTA
I bet you gossip alot, hehe Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Synastar: I suddenly really hope you're a Libra.
aries, the opposite Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Thanks for that chart.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
so how is the weather out there?
Posted by new2stocks on :
nice in Wisconsin
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Nice in SE Michigan. Its finally "breathable air" outside. That 98F plus 80% humidity from last week is just silly.
Posted by sceptor on :
Now that was a great horiscope.
By the way byins.net has the short at 16+ million now.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
how do they arrive at that number?
oh and it's so how and humid here you can braise a damn roast in your car...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do they arrive at that number?
oh and it's so how and humid here you can braise a damn roast in your car...
mmmmm Braised Roast........
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: The word on the street, is everything is going down tomorrow. Who no's the guy I'm talking about has been right lately though. GLTA
Who are you talking about
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
looks like this has leveled off around ten maybe?
Catia...i read that and immediatly pictured a power window switch engineer that looks like homer, lol...
was that you with the switch? i know there are several engineers floating around...
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
When is DUFUS gonna file this ****
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: looks like this has leveled off around ten maybe?
Catia...i read that and immediatly pictured a power window switch engineer that looks like homer, lol...
was that you with the switch? i know there are several engineers floating around...
Thats kinda the look i was going for. Thanks for following.
And yes, you are correct about the Window switch.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: The word on the street, is everything is going down tomorrow. Who no's the guy I'm talking about has been right lately though. GLTA
Who are you talking about
BUD750, he has been on the up and up lately. Remember it's only a rumor until it comes true. It also takes a little time to get things in order. This is not like baking cookies, takes more than 35 minutes. GLTY Posted by betting babe on :
wouldnt the moisture make the roast mushy? ~BB
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do they arrive at that number?
oh and it's so how and humid here you can braise a damn roast in your car...
Posted by new2stocks on :
I think Rufus is waiting to file the 10k so the FHAL longs will be able to trade when the price changes. IMHO
Posted by new2stocks on :
BUD750 posts on IHUB
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...
Braising is a cooking method where meat or vegetables are first browned in a little fat, then slowly cooked in a tightly covered pot with a little liquid over low heat for a long period of time.
i was mostly refering to the heat part...the moisture just adds a pressure cooker effect in my car...
Posted by betting babe on :
ew
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
and the purpose of cooking in that manner:
This method of cooking is great for tough cuts of meat since the long slow cooking tenderizes the meat by breaking down the sinewy connective tissues without breaking down the muscle fibers while adding flavor at the same time.
oh and the L2's are still goofy...although looking at the minute chart a breakout one way or the other looks to be close by...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
no trades in like 10min I see L2's moving so I know were not halted but no trades hmm
as soon as I posted this a trade went through
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: and the purpose of cooking in that manner:
This method of cooking is great for tough cuts of meat since the long slow cooking tenderizes the meat by breaking down the sinewy connective tissues without breaking down the muscle fibers while adding flavor at the same time.
oh and the L2's are still goofy...although looking at the minute chart a breakout one way or the other looks to be close by...
So Crab!! Your an auto mechanic. are ya??
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...no...i'm an auditor...glorified accountant if you will...
Posted by cassity on :
Just a thought of mine. If Rufus follows through and opens this at $15 a share, this will show that everything he has been saying is true. If what he has said is true, then they really did buy up all the remaining float, so obviously there would be a very big short, because these MM's have been trading something. Also, if what he says is true, then he has investors that are already interested in buying what ever is sold, if you think about what is remaining in the float, it's not that much. Plus, I believe the 10k will show the share structure and if he has the PR's he claims to have, $15 could be just the beginning. This will all be subject to the halting, and opening at $15 a share. JMO and thoughts. GLT ME and everyone else. -Cassity
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Funny....I was just prepping a big ole Pot Roast when I came back to the thread....
Just got done Browning it with all the spices...
Then I come back here and you guys were talking about it.....
Freaky!!!LOL
Dinner at 6:00
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ew
Let me guess, your a veggie girl? Posted by betting babe on :
veggies rock!
OMG! CRab!? "sinewy connective tissues without breaking down the muscle fibers" ewwwwwwwww
~BB
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Just a thought of mine. If Rufus follows through and opens this at $15 a share, this will show that everything he has been saying is true. If what he has said is true, then they really did buy up all the remaining float, so obviously there would be a very big short, because these MM's have been trading something. Also, if what he says is true, then he has investors that are already interested in buying what ever is sold, if you think about what is remaining in the float, it's not that much. Plus, I believe the 10k will show the share structure and if he has the PR's he claims to have, $15 could be just the beginning. This will all be subject to the halting, and opening at $15 a share. JMO and thoughts. GLT ME and everyone else. -Cassity
I'm having trouble sleeping thinking about the $15... But yes, I too have thought about that because it just may be the real deal. Look... the market hasn't tanked us because everyone thinks this is going through IMO.
I'm Lov'n it! Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: veggies rock!
OMG! CRab!? "sinewy connective tissues without breaking down the muscle fibers" ewwwwwwwww
~BB
haha...funny thing is that is refering to the veggies as well...
oh, and did anyone else notice I called the break here, lol...i'm just saying...
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: veggies rock!
OMG! CRab!? "sinewy connective tissues without breaking down the muscle fibers" ewwwwwwwww
~BB
Looks like I need to post some pictures of myself, so I can increase my star count! HA HA Posted by cassity on :
Hey CRab, you should replace the bea in your name with "have" and add a "s" at the end. J/K Posted by betting babe on :
anyone notice all the trades at 1.15?!
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Fidelity is now showing the CSHD shares.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Funny....I was just prepping a big ole Pot Roast when I came back to the thread....
Just got done Browning it with all the spices...
Then I come back here and you guys were talking about it.....
Freaky!!!LOL
Dinner at 6:00
I'll be there... Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Hey CRab, you should replace the bea in your name with "have" and add a "s" at the end. J/K
funny, funny...someone stole my original name...so i had to change it up...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
So far it looks like it's happenning. Slowly but surely. Doesnt do any good to get the PPS to $15.00 if it can't be traded. You can't buy it if no ones selling it, right?
Once we are allowed to trade it, then I'll worry about it.
Posted by Tmoney on :
since trading has already begun with cshd, can they halt existing trading and reopen with a new price?
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: since trading has already begun with cshd, can they halt existing trading and reopen with a new price?
That's been the plan all along, so let's hope so. Posted by Tmoney on :
i thought the plan was with the new symbol would come the new price, can they just change the price since trading has already begun,
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: since trading has already begun with cshd, can they halt existing trading and reopen with a new price?
The way that I am understanding this...they are waiting for the Audited financials of FHAL...(I think through may of 06?) And then they can halt the trading and adjust the PPS because of the "368" rule...showing their "new assets" of CVSU...
Anyone is this correct? BB? Is that what you understand this as?
Posted by SYGY on :
--------------------------------HOPE NO ONE HAS FORGOTTEN THIS LITTLE BOND THING ON CVSU 's PRESS RELEASES!!!plus that is not taking into account the 800 million worth (book value) and money generated by subs!! awsome!!!!!!!!!----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------We have also received an offer for an additional 3 billion in Global and Euro Bonds from the Caracas Group and the Board is currently making the necessary arrangement for receipt and securitization.” stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris
Posted by new2stocks on :
some speculation from dgambar in chat,
CSHD is going to wait for the new ticker to settle before 10k, halt, reset.
Posted by portman on :
new...he was there in traders-corner when I advanced that theory last night. Posted by Tmoney on :
so i am assuming that we can stop existing trading in cshd and reopen with a new price
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: so i am assuming that we can stop existing trading in cshd and reopen with a new price
ONLY once the 10k is filled. Cause that proves it's worth.
Posted by new2stocks on :
oh I see portman....
Posted by portman on :
As long as the 10-k and s-4 satisfy the SEC regs for those conditions...yes.
Posted by new2stocks on :
In H s M they are discussing that matter now.
Posted by Tmoney on :
thanks chartwalker and we know you will let us know when the 10k comes out
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: thanks chartwalker and we know you will let us know when the 10k comes out
Taxback will be the first to know IMO!! LOL He's ALLLLL over that!
Dang I feel good today! -GREEN!!
Posted by betting babe on :
i understand it as it can trade all it wants now at these levels.
each of our shares will settle in approx the same amount of time, since the transfer agent will distribute them all at the same time.
i imagine they are waiting for that settlement, then:
* halt first * reveal the 10k * reset the price to $15 based on the new assets revealed in 10k * wait for all us greedy folk to dump at $15 * institutions pick up cheap shares at $15 * issue abundant PRs to increase the price further and make institutions happy & us kick ourselves
of course it is anybody's guess. but i am SURE they must have the audited financials already. i really think theyre just waiting for settlement.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: since trading has already begun with cshd, can they halt existing trading and reopen with a new price?
The way that I am understanding this...they are waiting for the Audited financials of FHAL...(I think through may of 06?) And then they can halt the trading and adjust the PPS because of the "368" rule...showing their "new assets" of CVSU...
Anyone is this correct? BB? Is that what you understand this as?
Posted by SYGY on :
lets break through the hod!!darn!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
arca buying up a lot of shares
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Charging the HOD again, wow, this is nuts! I mean that looking at the "Big Picture" Posted by SYGY on :
WHAT'S THE FLOAT NOW----LOL!!!!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
wonder what the next 15-30 minuites will bring... seems like when this happens some news comes out just after big buying starts JMHO
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I can't imagine what will happen if everything falls into Place. A huge short position the JV's and subsidiaries. If this really happens I don't know if any of can really fathom it I know I can't.
Posted by SYGY on :
1.19 AND UP!!I'M SMELLING NEW's
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: loganwolverine I_HUB In reply to: None Date:8/9/2006 12:40:10 PM Post #of 34641
short sign, I am skeptical, but watching level 2, when the bid is higher than the ask, it is a sign of naked covering called "Leap Frogging" and no shares availability. Very bullish sign if that is the case here. It has been happening all day today and yesterday.
Posted by djg7 on :
Keep on rolling!
Posted by betting babe on :
DUH! in TDAmtrade i was just clicking the ticker symbol in my portfolio, and it was saying 'symbol invalid' ...cuz it had brackets around it.
QUIN appears desperate for shares here...he is following the ask like a little puppy
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: DUH! in TDAmtrade i was just clicking the ticker symbol in my portfolio, and it was saying 'symbol invalid' ...cuz it had brackets around it.
typing it in manually TDAmtrade has it ACTIVE.
~BB
Etrade shows it as an active symbol and it shows that its trading. There just isnt a link between CSHD and FHAL in my portflio. Im told we should see it in the portfolio tomorrow. Im kinda glad this is going slow to be honest.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Go monkey Go!!! LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: thanks chartwalker and we know you will let us know when the 10k comes out
Taxback will be the first to know IMO!! LOL He's ALLLLL over that!
Dang I feel good today! -GREEN!!
Guilty... 1511 SEC filing and none of any interest... except another company MOBL that I have had my eye on for about two years now released an ammended 10KA this morning so I have something to read over lunch. What can I say I love the muni-wifi play. It's Google-lishous!!! Posted by ruthie on :
anyone having trouble with their scottrade??
Posted by betting babe on :
i dont show FHAL in my portfolio at all MrCatia.
My shares switched to CHSD like this:
(*CSHD*)
why dont the MMs just do one big chitload trade each, and get it over with
~BB
Posted by mathis on :
quote:Originally posted by ruthie: anyone having trouble with their scottrade??
me..my shares are not showing up anywhere..its only showing up as what fhal closed yesterday
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: thanks chartwalker and we know you will let us know when the 10k comes out
Taxback will be the first to know IMO!! LOL He's ALLLLL over that!
Dang I feel good today! -GREEN!!
Guilty... 1511 SEC filing and none of any interest... except another company MOBL that I have had my eye on for about two years now released an ammended 10KA this morning so I have something to read over lunch. What can I say I love the muni-wifi play. It's Google-lishous!!!
[sidenote] MOBL was my first trade back when... Made about $250.00 in about 5 minutes and the lights came on! :)I still watch that one to this day! ha ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, i have an engineering meeting and a training session that could last the rest of the day. Nobody do anhything til i get back!~! Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i dont show FHAL in my portfolio at all MrCatia.
My shares switched to CHSD like this:
(*CSHD*)
~BB
BB...mine are showing up the same....have you tried to trade it?
Posted by SYGY on :
1.75 come on,,,i wan't the nazdaq
Posted by 10of13 on :
I am thinking of flipping this...for no real reason than..I will have the actual new trading shares...not the "old" FHAL...
Posted by Sandusky on :
Brave...dicey time to flip.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I am thinking of flipping this...for no real reason than..I will have the actual new trading shares...not the "old" FHAL...
entertainment for the bored board...courtesy of ihub...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I am thinking of flipping this...for no real reason than..I will have the actual new trading shares...not the "old" FHAL...
gl 10! If you do I hope you may get back in without paying a higher premium.
Posted by Hannibull on :
i tried to sell 1 share * 1.45 (heah, didnt wanna take chances)
error message was: Please check your portfolio and/or open orders. Your sell order is greater than the quantity held in your account.
when i spoke to TDAm yesterday they said i couldnt trade til they got the certifs from the transfer agent, but if i needed to by phone perhaps they could make an 'exception'.
~BB
Posted by RyanPBF on :
makes another new hod
Posted by SYGY on :
funny stuff! CRAB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK going to lunch... taking my eyes off SEC filings for a while. Can't pry my eyes away...must eat... uuuurrrrggg.
{poof *gone*} Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by ruthie: anyone having trouble with their scottrade??
Symbol Qty Price Mkt Value FHAL# 18050 N/A 20,306.25
This is what my scottrade account says. Price doesn't move. GLTY Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: yeah buck i have tried to trade it.
i tried to sell 1 share * 1.45 (heah, didnt wanna take chances)
error message was: Please check your portfolio and/or open orders. Your sell order is greater than the quantity held in your account.
when i spoke to TDAm yesterday they said i couldnt trade til they got the certifs from the transfer agent, but if i needed to by phone perhaps they could make an 'exception'.
~BB
Thanx BB...that is what I figured.
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Loved the "you tubes"
Jo
Posted by betting babe on :
ciao everyone. hope i dont miss any action! ~BB
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ciao everyone. hope i dont miss any action! ~BB
no... Rat is running around in his underwear stomping out pretend fires outside in his cowboy boots again... LMAO ~ (it's all good Rat Posted by SYGY on :
stuck around 1.16---can't believe people actually are selling at these levels!!DUMB&DUMBMER i guess???
Posted by Danny_K on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: stuck around 1.16---can't believe people actually are selling at these levels!!DUMB&DUMBMER i guess???
When in doubt, sell. Thats what we are seeing, and you cant question the fact there is doubt going around right now.
Me on the otherhand, im hold my frees, wiht at stop limit around .93.
Im actually tempted to go up to CVSUs office again today and see if anyone will talk to me Posted by Chartwalker on :
Guess we are going to be on cruise till EOD huh?... That's fine, happy with today, VERY happy with today and all that happened!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
DANNY good idea,you live close then? still having issues with people having doubt on this,,we are on penny shedule for now and everything that RUFUS has said has been happening,just too slow for some that's all, roger out!!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
what is going on? no more trading??? i'll sell mine for 50.00$ each!!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
80000 shares went through at 1.06 like end of day then it was reset with that 1.175 for zero shares...
nevermind...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: 80000 shares went through at 1.06 like end of day then it was reset with that 1.175 for zero shares...
nevermind...
www. otcbb. com/ marketwatch/
no current halts...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, small break between meetings. And....i....see....nothing has changed. Posted by casviper on :
i looked at the pinksheet chasts and see no trades in the last 30 minutes. i thisnk we are HALTED.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
If we are, its not listed on the otcbb site. I doubt we are, its just moving VERRRRY slowly now
Posted by cool AZ on :
No halt yet ... maybe later.
Posted by djg7 on :
We are still trading 1.15 x 1.155.
Posted by Danny_K on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: DANNY good idea,you live close then? still having issues with people having doubt on this,,we are on penny shedule for now and everything that RUFUS has said has been happening,just too slow for some that's all, roger out!!!!
Yes i am about 15 min away from CVSU. I went there once, to make sure it was the same building as pictured on thier website, and it was. It was night time and the doors were lock, so i couldnt get in Posted by SYGY on :
darn shoulda broke in for info!!!LOL!LOL!
Posted by SYGY on :
10k and out,,coulda made major green with that!!IF YOU ONLY HAD A WHEELBARROW TO CARRY IT!!!lol!lol!
Posted by mathis on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: 10k and out,,coulda made major green with that!!IF YOU ONLY HAD A WHEELBARROW TO CARRY IT!!!lol!lol!
LMAO
Posted by SYGY on :
somebody is in major ****! over on I_HUB some guy put out a mojor pr(****er post) it was deleted and sent to SVSU fraud site!!! it was the same (site) as previous fake pr's!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Just go into the CVSU office and say "Hello, my name is Timothy Miles and i was wondering if i could have a moment with Mr Harris?"
I'll bet you get instant attention. Posted by SYGY on :
HERE IT IS >>>BUT REMEMBER THIS IS FAKE!!!OK!!!-------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------http://www.****ger.com/profile/77838
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Just go into the CVSU office and say "Hello, my name is Timothy Miles and i was wondering if i could have a moment with Mr Harris?"
I'll bet you get instant attention.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Just go into the CVSU office and say "Hello, my name is Timothy Miles and i was wondering if i could have a moment with Mr Harris?"
I'll bet you get instant attention.
Lmao
Posted by SYGY on :
b-l-o-g
Posted by cassity on :
Thanks everyone for keeping this site amusing during the slow times. I'm glad we never turned into what IHUB did. I hope for the best for all of you. GLtALL of US!
Posted by a surfer on :
I Love you man!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
that post on that b l o g site could have someone in some serious chit.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Now how about a nice EOD run!! Posted by SYGY on :
HERE IS ANOTHER L-e-m-o-n JUST OUT--THESE GUY's ARE IN MAJOR DOO! DOO!
August 9, 2006
********** Updates Conversion Solutions/ Fronthaul Group (OTC: CSHD)
NEW SYMBOL - SAME SCAM SAME FRAUD.
********** is amazed at the naiveté of many investors as they blindly buy a stock based on the word of a CEO who has consistently lied to shareholders and to the investment community in what ********** believes to be the most flagrant abuse of the markets we have seen to date. Please read the ********** archives for the first two reports on Fronthaul.
Today, good ole CEO Rufus Harris changed the symbol of Fronthaul Solutions to CSHD but when we pull the skin off this lemon, we see that they company is nothing more than a figment of his vivid imagination -- like one of those bad movies where you find out at the end the movie has been nothing more than someone’s dream. When the dust settles, many investors who thought they have found a get rich quick scheme are left broken hearted – finding out too late that Rufus’s dream has become their nightmare.
********** will take this opportunity to clarify what this company is that can be documented.
First and foremost is the bond asset. To this date we still have not seen anything from the company that would show any form of ownership of $500 million in bonds, or the source of any funds to buy such a portfolio of bonds. Or -- as Rufus now tells us -- $500 mil in cash. THIS IS A LIE. ********** has proven that the bond issue, as identified in a company press release by CUSIP number, has not been “cashed in” and more importantly does not belong to Rufus or Conversion Solutions. THIS ALONE MIGHT BE GOOD FOR 18 MONTHS IN CLUB FED, RUFUS.
I HOPE THEY SUE BIG TIME!!HOLD YOUR SHARES POEPLE!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
maybe that's why the price dipped? New money didn't do their D & D! ha ~
Posted by SYGY on :
i think so!! hard to believe it still has an impact,,only stall's us for a bit,,,but gives RUFUS more ammo!!!IT'S OFFICIAL THE B-L-O-G AND L-E-M-O-N ARE DUMB &DUMBMER
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: i think so!! hard to believe it still has an impact,,only stall's us for a bit,,,but gives RUFUS more ammo!!!IT'S OFFICIAL THE B-L-O-G AND L-E-M-O-N ARE DUMB &DUMBMER
LMAO!! ~~
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: maybe that's why the price dipped? New money didn't do their D & D! ha ~
I got money that was MM's making it look like a selloff. It was far too short to have been panic induced.
Posted by djg7 on :
It may have dipped a little bit but still holding strong at 1.15 x 1.13.
Posted by portman on :
The only greens on my screens are CSHD and CSCO. It's still a good day. Third day in a row that I will go home to my favorite 18 year old and celebrate.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Speaking of Rufas and all the true statments he has made. Here is one more that checks out completely, following the Symbol change. Rufas said that after the problems with the new CUSIP number the had been given a new CUSIP and that number was 21254V100. I had been checking on the Fidelity Symbol Lookup page for the last couple of days with the new CUSIP returning no symbol found.
Not today! Follow the link below, change the by: field to CUSIP Number and past 21254V100 into the Search Value field.
I love when things fall into place like they are supposed too.
as little effect as this one has had...make you think that the previous tanks were 100% orchestrated...by previous I mean M N 1 and the other reports that the lemon jockey's released...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: The only greens on my screens are CSHD and CSCO. It's still a good day. Third day in a row that I will go home to my favorite 18 year old and celebrate.
Well at least she is 18!!!
Sorry... sick and wrong.
Posted by SYGY on :
Rufus should pr something soon HE HATES THOSE GUYS AND WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT ,,,after hours probably!!
Posted by portman on :
lol...Tax...yeah I did that intentionally.
I was talking about the Macallan...I only get a 50 year old if Rufus comes through.
Posted by djg7 on :
Here comes a min-run.
Posted by djg7 on :
Keep going!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
nice choice portman on the scotch
Posted by SYGY on :
beer and t-oke here! BYEH!!!!BURP!!!
Posted by djg7 on :
Ditto, Sygy.
Posted by DEN on :
hi to all here,,i have read this board for a few weeks now,and was wondering if someone that uses scottrade ,could help me out....is it normal to show the symbol fhal# , and no current value.....and how long is normal ,,until it reflects the new symbol,,and value,,under the my positions chart...thanks for the help
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by DEN: hi to all here,,i have read this board for a few weeks now,and was wondering if someone that uses scottrade ,could help me out....is it normal to show the symbol fhal# , and no current value.....and how long is normal ,,until it reflects the new symbol,,and value,,under the my positions chart...thanks for the help
It will probably be a day or 2..but I would call them and ask...make sure for yourself... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I like how the last trade was 1.155 but the bid and ask sank to 1.13 before another trade... then there was a 1.22 that didn't move the bid or ask at all... actually it went down to 1.11 this is nuts.
Posted by portman on :
Ticking us down EOD again. Must be painting a line.
Posted by 10of13 on :
OT...Does anyone know how to find out who the MM is/are for a certain stock?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Listed on the OTCBB web site... if I find a link I'll post.
Posted by unclerudy on :
So, who thinks that Rufus is waiting for all of the major trading houses to be able to have all of the new stocks, so that anyone who wants to trade will be able to? To make sure that everyone, including the institutional investors, are able to buy and sell the stock? Because the normal holders are going to want to sell to make the money, and the institutional are going to want to buy, this waiting will ensure everyone will be on the side that they want to be on. Just a thought.
Posted by buckstalker on :
How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Yes but where did the shares come from that were being bought if no one or very few were able to sell?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Yes but where did the shares come from that were being bought if no one or very few were able to sell?
Scottrade said to hold till shares cleared because otherwise I would be short selling... I didn't flip any because of it. There was a big doing about this very thing with PAIV shares, some were told they now had to cover at market prices! But I think most were able to have the trades undone.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Yes but where did the shares come from that were being bought if no one or very few were able to sell?
float and air... float and air
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I was able to purchase 1K shares this morning at 1.09, I did this in case Schwab didn't turn over my 5K shares of FHAL and we halted and went to $15. I could at least make something !
Anyway it filled almost instantly. Schwab told me they will turn the symbol over tonight and it should ready to trade by Thurs or Fri.
I would bet good money (and I have) that Rufus is waiting for all the main brokerages to get their shares and iron this all out before the 10K and PR's are released. Once the CSHD shares are all tradeable then we should see the 10K.
Otherwise many will be screwed and the institutions won't be able to buy as none of us could sell. Fun times, eh ?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Btw...I bought these online. No call to Schwab was needed. I will try and sell 1 share tomorrow morning and see what happens, I'll let you all know.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wally...I have no way of telling who was able to sell and not sell...but there are so many people out there and different means of trading..and who really knows what the OS or float really are? And you gotta wonder if shorting has already begun?
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Yes but where did the shares come from that were being bought if no one or very few were able to sell?
That is precisely where I was going with my question...
Posted by SYGY on :
we've already made the short list ! but how many? no one knows?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Just talked to Scottrade (Scottsdale) and they said they turned FHAL shares back to TA and are awaiting CSHD certs. They, as of now, have no date of completion. All is in process and is usual business.
I'm wondering how long this will take to complete considering the possible 16 mil short shares to be covered. Given the current float, this may take some time.
Patience is the key to profitability here. I am tempted to buy a small order once the price is $15 to help enhance the outcome ... not that in and of itself it would make much of a impact, but, added into the short covering, the institutional buying and the low float, it will work towards the "long" interest. GLTA
Posted by SYGY on :
anybody notice this big buy block near the eod today...somebody wanted their shares and couldn't wait...even jumped the ask by a few cents.
1.08 3000 OBB 15:58:20 1.14 45000 OBB 15:58:15 1.07 500 OBB 15:57:59
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: anybody notice this big buy block near the eod today...somebody wanted their shares and couldn't wait...even jumped the ask by a few cents.
btw... isn't this the $500,000,000.00 Bond that lemon says isn't there? ha!
Posted by SYGY on :
--------HSM--- POST BY ORANGUSTANG!!!!----------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------Okay, I am concerned along with everyone else, but consider the following:
"We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share." --Rufus
S-4 has not gone through, so the merger is not complete. He says that we will come back out the next day under the new symbol, but he does not say that the new symbol will not trade at the FHAL price first. It's a technicality that everyone is missing. Rufus has not been wrong on this yet, and as far as I know, this is the quote that everyone is referencing for this info. Combine that with the other quote, which I will not take the time to find because my computer is slow, but Rufus said that progress would move expeditiously now that the issues were cleared up. I agree that the nothingness that happened today sure didn't seem expeditious, but we've come up with a few reasons, my favorite being that Rufus wants us all to be able to trade the stock after the reset. He wants us all to do well, but for those who are just going to jump out at $15, he would rather afford the institutions access to that many more shares, because he knows they will hold for the long haul. He knows that those who don't sell at 15 likely will hold on for quite a while. He's not stupid. Brokerages are saying 24-48 hours to change over the ticker, and some are saying as much as a week, so don't freak out if nothing happens tomorrow, but it seems like it very well could. This is delaying progress slightly in order for expeditious move in the not-too-distant future. By delaying this a little, he's also shaking out the weak hands and penny traders who feel uneasy about staying in a stock more than a week. He hasn't lied, and he hasn't been wrong, except on certain deadlines that were out of his hands, and even then, his estimates were correct, but there were unforeseen holdups. There almost always are. We're still good on this one, and IMO it will go off EOD tomorrow without a hitch. Don't fault me if I'm wrong on the date, though, because this is really just my take on it, and like I said earlier, it could take as long as a week, and they have until Sept. 30 before they really HAVE to do anything. Hope this helps to quell your impatience, and please, feel free to point out anything I've missed. __________________
Posted by SYGY on :
post the link CHART!
Posted by Sandusky on :
Damn dude...take a breath.
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: --------HSM--- POST BY ORANGUSTANG!!!!----------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------Okay, I am concerned along with everyone else, but consider the following:
"We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share." --Rufus
S-4 has not gone through, so the merger is not complete. He says that we will come back out the next day under the new symbol, but he does not say that the new symbol will not trade at the FHAL price first. It's a technicality that everyone is missing. Rufus has not been wrong on this yet, and as far as I know, this is the quote that everyone is referencing for this info. Combine that with the other quote, which I will not take the time to find because my computer is slow, but Rufus said that progress would move expeditiously now that the issues were cleared up. I agree that the nothingness that happened today sure didn't seem expeditious, but we've come up with a few reasons, my favorite being that Rufus wants us all to be able to trade the stock after the reset. He wants us all to do well, but for those who are just going to jump out at $15, he would rather afford the institutions access to that many more shares, because he knows they will hold for the long haul. He knows that those who don't sell at 15 likely will hold on for quite a while. He's not stupid. Brokerages are saying 24-48 hours to change over the ticker, and some are saying as much as a week, so don't freak out if nothing happens tomorrow, but it seems like it very well could. This is delaying progress slightly in order for expeditious move in the not-too-distant future. By delaying this a little, he's also shaking out the weak hands and penny traders who feel uneasy about staying in a stock more than a week. He hasn't lied, and he hasn't been wrong, except on certain deadlines that were out of his hands, and even then, his estimates were correct, but there were unforeseen holdups. There almost always are. We're still good on this one, and IMO it will go off EOD tomorrow without a hitch. Don't fault me if I'm wrong on the date, though, because this is really just my take on it, and like I said earlier, it could take as long as a week, and they have until Sept. 30 before they really HAVE to do anything. Hope this helps to quell your impatience, and please, feel free to point out anything I've missed. __________________
Posted by dog on :
yes...I think he's waiting on the confusion of the symbol change to clear. The free traders hold alot of this stock... and need to make them available to the major institutions. It would be pure chaos if the 10K and reset happened during the day today...
Scottrade says this could take up to 3 weeks... not sure if I believe them... but my FHAL shares are still FHAL shares until further notice. I could force a sell with a phone call however, but if any discrepency results and shares are not 1 to 1, the trader is responsible to make up the difference... so I'm stuck holding until this is cleared up. He may be holding the 10K on his desk until he's sure all the tradeable shares a re freed up.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: post the link CHART!
I did. Take out the gaps...
Posted by dog on :
Where does it show CVSU's involvement, Chart?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Where does it show CVSU's involvement, Chart?
Got the numbers off some old D & D here, this was sold wasn't it? That's where the $$$ came from and should show up on the 10k
-That is my understanding...
-heading out to eat, check back later. Posted by Stockstar69 on :
As of 5:00pm...On the pinksheets dot com site. just some general info...
CSHD -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. Com ($0.001)
Primary Venue: Dually Quoted on Pink Sheets and OTC Bulletin Board
Best Bid: Unpriced Best Ask: Unpriced
TRADE DATA Best Bid: 1.0760 Best Ask: 1.0800 Last Sale: 1.0900 Change: -0.0350
Trade data is delayed at least 15 minutes. Best Bid and Ask reflect prices between 8:00am and 4:00pm EST, after these hours the best Bid and Ask at 4:15pm is shown.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
I know people don't particularly like calling to bother these people...but has anyone attempted to contact them?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Wow Stock Lemon is at it again! He posted some blistering accusations on his site, this is getting pretty ugly.
All I know - is that someone is going to get sued out of all this mess on one side or the other. Really nuts.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, someplace some lawyers are freeing up some deliberation time to take some money from someone....someplace. Posted by ruthie on :
Have to admit this one is a hard one to figure out at this time!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I know people don't particularly like calling to bother these people...but has anyone attempted to contact them?
he one about the stallions...they rambled the studs they have available...and we were discussing things and my cell lost it's connection...never called back...what I didn't like was that on the website...they show pictures of a stable...with no horses...???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
wow, enough already huh?... (bashing) My head hurts, I'm going to walk away and forget about this till tomorrow. G-night, Peace
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Bud is playing serious mind gimes with the folks over at IHUB. He's telling them Santa is on his way and Christmas stuff. He must be getting through in some of his calls, i doubt he would be so ballsy to post "crap" so openly in IHUB knowing that Rufus also frequents there. Couple thread you can follow through if you are bored.
I would post the "false" **** news that was out today but i dont want to start widespread panic. Its over at IHUB and NOT TRUE! Posted by dog on :
Bud750 at it again too... this is the craziest ride ...
Posted by dog on :
Man... f**k it . . . I'm gonna drink beer on the back deck til the 10k comes out. This is giving me a headache.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I know people don't particularly like calling to bother these people...but has anyone attempted to contact them?
he one about the stallions...they rambled the studs they have available...and we were discussing things and my cell lost it's connection...never called back...what I didn't like was that on the website...they show pictures of a stable...with no horses...???
Im not personally sure he has horses but i did see some for sale under his name. Now, this could be good or bad....he sells horses or he is selling his horses. See the difference? Posted by Chad on :
so is it possible then to buy this stock under the new ticker?? if so, and say one day it does switch over in price, does it still count for those who bought the new stock or do you have to be a FHAL shareholder?
Posted by dog on :
Nope CSHD is the same stock... just had a symbol change . . yer on the right page buddy!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Mr. Cat was finding stuff the other night..not sure if he posted this one...
Very familiar...seems they have attemoted to "do this" many of times..but with FHAL, symbol change, 8k and all...this one seems to be moving further than the others...Maybe it will happen...maybe it won't???
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Still here eh dog? Posted by dog on :
Indeed... me, an Oberon with a slice of orange, and a beautiful pulled pork sandwich.
Life just doesn't get much better!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Mr. Cat was finding stuff the other night..not sure if he posted this one...
Very familiar...seems they have attemoted to "do this" many of times..but with FHAL, symbol change, 8k and all...this one seems to be moving further than the others...Maybe it will happen...maybe it won't???
No, actually i think that one is new to me(somehow?!?). I just wonder what ever transpired from that ya know?
Posted by betting babe on :
perhaps the horses were in the field posing for another photographer
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I know people don't particularly like calling to bother these people...but has anyone attempted to contact them?
he one about the stallions...they rambled the studs they have available...and we were discussing things and my cell lost it's connection...never called back...what I didn't like was that on the website...they show pictures of a stable...with no horses...???
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I wonder how Rats roast turned out. Hes just a short jog down the highway. Posted by portman on :
Still happy and pleased at this point. Just listening to TC and spending time with the only 18 year old The Wife permits me to hang with.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: perhaps the horses were in the field posing for another photographer
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I know people don't particularly like calling to bother these people...but has anyone attempted to contact them?
he one about the stallions...they rambled the studs they have available...and we were discussing things and my cell lost it's connection...never called back...what I didn't like was that on the website...they show pictures of a stable...with no horses...???
Or, or, or MAYYYYYBE the horse IS the photographer. And when hes not taking pictures he is auditing company financials!!
Posted by betting babe on :
lol.
or maybe the horse is hanging with dog who's eating pig.
(sorry i couldnt resist)
ewwwww. i mean bon apetit!
~BB
Posted by Chad on :
ok, So if I wanted to buy shares tomorrow, would I buy them as CSHD then? and can i?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chad: ok, So if I wanted to buy shares tomorrow, would I buy them as CSHD then? and can i?
Yes you can...you CAN'T buy FHAL...and I have both...and I will let you buy some for $14.99...
Posted by dog on :
BB.... I'm a healthy guy, and I just about gave up pork altogether when a patient of mine showed up with this big Ascaris worm in a jar from eating undercooked pork... but slow roasted pulled pork and Southern style BBQ are a particular weakness of mine.... Otherwise it's wheat grass, whole juices, fish and brown rice!
Posted by Chad on :
lol...thx 10....so CSHD is currently the new FHAL. Now if new investors buy CSHD now....and then one day the 10K come sout and they halt trading and change the price.... does that mean every shareholders of CSHD, new and old, get the price increase? or will it only be good for FHAL holders?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: lol.
or maybe the horse is hanging with dog who's eating pig.
(sorry i couldnt resist)
ewwwww. i mean bon apetit!
~BB
Nice.....on your toes there.
Posted by dog on :
10 your a genius... I'll sell my FHAL# for $15 if anyone is feeling nostalgic for old stocks!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: BB.... I'm a healthy guy, and I just about gave up pork altogether when a patient of mine showed up with this big Ascaris worm in a jar from eating undercooked pork... but slow roasted pulled pork and Southern style BBQ are a particular weakness of mine.... Otherwise it's wheat grass, whole juices, fish and brown rice!
Yea theres a shocker. See you at Trader Joes dog! Posted by 10of13 on :
Chad...every share holder...young and old...
What I am wondering is...once the meger is complete...will Rufas.."add" the CVSU shares to the current OS...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: 10 your a genius... I'll sell my FHAL# for $15 if anyone is feeling nostalgic for old stocks!
You kiddin me? Id sell mine for $14 right now and put this fiasco behind me!! Ok, maybe just some of them. Who was buying again? Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: 10 your a genius... I'll sell my FHAL# for $15 if anyone is feeling nostalgic for old stocks!
i don't know Dog...since they are no longer available...maybe the price should go up?
Posted by betting babe on :
good dog! and that was a truly gross story, thank u for sharing.
im going to bring up a question that is still bothering me, since were all just sitting on shares.
way back when rufus was doin his paltalk thing, several people tried to nail him on the 'joint ventures' and 'subsidiaries'. the gyst was that none were coming up in search engines, and none were established in any way.
on the day of the fiasco call to ben, in the subsequent phone call convo with rufus, the question was asked again - why cant we locate info on any of the subsidiaries?
rufus said 'i dunno, try rocky road records. rocky and his wife (beverly?)... they should be easy to find.
well, i have never found them.
and now i see it again in the former SB-2 link under current joint ventures.
anyone else find it in their DD?
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey BB...you may want to start doing your auction stuff again...
"Hey Bidder Bidder...do I hear $15...?"
Posted by dog on :
Trader Joe's and Whole Foods baby!
Posted by betting babe on :
10, we'll run the auction again when i can hear a 16
~BB
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chad...every share holder...young and old...
What I am wondering is...once the meger is complete...will Rufas.."add" the CVSU shares to the current OS...
Wouldn't we see an SB-2 on this?
Posted by Chad on :
ok, thx 10.... I figured if someone bought CSHD now and had shares and price changed later they'd get the price increase, but wanted to make sure from others. which seems like a benefit for those coming in late, cause it seemed like if you didnt buy FHAL awhile back, you'd have been caught with pants down....so to speak with the way they said price change would happen.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Trader Joe's and Whole Foods baby!
Ohhh yeaaaa, on Washtenaw if i remember correct. I can eat the soups at Joes every day. Im gonna have to hit there tomorrow....mmm
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: good dog! and that was a truly gross story, thank u for sharing.
im going to bring up a question that is still bothering me, since were all just sitting on shares.
way back when rufus was doin his paltalk thing, several people tried to nail him on the 'joint ventures' and 'subsidiaries'. the gyst was that none were coming up in search engines, and none were established in any way.
on the day of the fiasco call to ben, in the subsequent phone call convo with rufus, the question was asked again - why cant we locate info on any of the subsidiaries?
rufus said 'i dunno, try rocky road records. rocky and his wife (beverly?)... they should be easy to find.
well, i have never found them.
and now i see it again in the former SB-2 link under current joint ventures.
anyone else find it in their DD?
~BB
Im not sure what I am looking for...or your question...
just skimmed the past coupla pages, trying to catch up...
gotta question, in light of "options A, B, C" : is it possible that what we're saying is "A," now in effect? ie, "the average trading price."
iow, did the A option also include a "halt"?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chad: ok, thx 10.... I figured if someone bought CSHD now and had shares and price changed later they'd get the price increase, but wanted to make sure from others. which seems like a benefit for those coming in late, cause it seemed like if you didnt buy FHAL awhile back, you'd have been caught with pants down....so to speak with the way they said price change would happen.
Exactly Chad, and which is why everyone is so skeptical and taking valium to get through the day. We cant help but think....uhhhh, wheres the catch?
Nothing is a "sure thing" though Chad, as most will tell ya.
Although i sure as heck hope this one is........
Posted by NEL on :
Rocky Roads Records address (1234 Laurel Ln, Lafayette, CA 94549) shows an empty residential lot on google satelite maps!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Well, if i understand BB correct....the info on Rocky roads is kinda "shallow". There isnt much meat on the people involved or real details. I saw the site you posted 10 and it appears they have a business but....something large?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Hullo,
just skimmed the past coupla pages, trying to catch up...
gotta question, in light of "options A, B, C" : is it possible that what we're saying is "A," now in effect? ie, "the average trading price."
iow, did the A option also include a "halt"?
I see where you are coming from there Tex...oh by the way, welcome back.
Anyway, i would hope that if an A B or C decision was made it would have been PR'd in some way. However, you make a good point because in theory the other things took place, we are essentially merged. Does option A require the 10k right away?
Posted by betting babe on :
the rocky roads you all are showing is an old old label. ok sorry for those 70s listeners
i mean pretty historically established label.
that's not the one that he mentioned - i found that one while he was still on air.
his was in, like, chicago area. dang wish i could find my notes. ~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL..let's see...on that website for RRR..they have had 6111 visitors...and even if every visitor ordered at 3.50..that's a whoppin' $21388.50...which is very close to the amount that I have made off of this "stock"...guess i'm not going into that "business"... perhaps that is the wrong place?
Posted by dog on :
I usually don't try to push stocks or investments on any of my friends or family, but an investor friend of mine put it to me like this...
"If this company was legitimate, why doesn't everyone know about it? There's guys at the major brokerage houses who get paid $500 grand a year to just sit and watch SEC filings, plus these guys have tried it before..."
I feel like this is much further along than those instances....
God... I hope Rufus found the right shell company this time!
BB .... do you think there's still something in the DD that would bust our balloon?
I'll check out the "Rocky Road" situation as I'm involved in the recording industry... but I have to tell you that it looks like this guy is a friend of Rufus and he is bankrolling his studio. Plus record labels are a good place to "lose" some money... very high overhead on gear ... plus tough to get paid by the clients.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL..let's see...on that website for RRR..they have had 6111 visitors...and even if every visitor ordered at 3.50..that's a whoppin' $21388.50...which is very close to the amount that I have made off of this "stock"...guess i'm not going into that "business"... perhaps that is the wrong place?
Show off Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Hullo,
just skimmed the past coupla pages, trying to catch up...
gotta question, in light of "options A, B, C" : is it possible that what we're saying is "A," now in effect? ie, "the average trading price."
iow, did the A option also include a "halt"?
I see where you are coming from there Tex...oh by the way, welcome back.
Anyway, i would hope that if an A B or C decision was made it would have been PR'd in some way. However, you make a good point because in theory the other things took place, we are essentially merged. Does option A require the 10k right away?
Catia, I dunno...
am sorta relying on those who have been following closely... I haven't had to be away from trading, the board, and DD in general so much since about this same time last year...is quite frustrating for me, personally...wah wah wah
Posted by 10of13 on :
Was it a production company? her's one in Atlanta...
dog, my vp friend at merrill is watching this with me, jealous of my profits..
but it is too risky for him, and the profits are all hindsight, 1.
it isnt his money he is investing at work, 2.
it just isnt the way he was trained to invest, 3.
everyone has the potential to know about it, but the rep of the pinks makes it doubtful, so it will either be another 'pink scam' or 'a lucky break' in the brokerage house's books.
~BB
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Oh I hope it's not this guy
lol no the guy was definately named Rocky. not freaquilizer.
10of13, nope thats the same 'old' label.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
I was crying when I read the "freaquilizer" middle name -
Posted by T e x on :
"rufus said 'i dunno, try rocky road records. rocky and his wife (beverly?)... they should be easy to find."
I don't like that answer...to me? that's a punk'd answer: were I answering the question, I would say something like: "Try rock road records--here's the url, phone number, and address."
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by NEL: Rocky Roads Records address (1234 Laurel Ln, Lafayette, CA 94549) shows an empty residential lot on google satelite maps!
I have friends that have a house in Broken Arrow, Ok and their house is an empty lot also. Check that address in zillow.com and maybe it'll return something.
Posted by dog on :
BB... makes sense. AG Edwards is still not selling or buying this stock, even after the symbol change, they are blocking it from their clients. In my discussion with a broker friend, she stated that they are a very conservative company, pinks are often viewed as dubious, and they often won't allow trades of these stocks if they have "strange" activity (internet hype, merger situations, or possible SEC legal action). Someone at the main office pointed out the "insider trades" with the old CEO of the original Fronthaul, which I discussed in an early thread... Rufus stated that they had to "decide who got what and how much stock" in the merger. The CEO's of Fronthaul are not going to get a 1 to 1 interest from a bankrupt company as it is swallowed up by a successful, much larger private company. They had to work these details out early on in order to proceed... that is get them out at a reasonable price.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Oh I hope it's not this guy
Yea, and by the looks of it..backwards of forest is ALL it is. Its never really mentioned on its own. I think its almost bed time.
Posted by betting babe on :
Tex, had i liked the answer, i wouldnt still be dwelling on it weeks later.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "rufus said 'i dunno, try rocky road records. rocky and his wife (beverly?)... they should be easy to find."
I don't like that answer...to me? that's a punk'd answer: were I answering the question, I would say something like: "Try rock road records--here's the url, phone number, and address."
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ive posted this before too....I NEVER liked that The Brittenum Brothers were on board. Anyone here watch any American Idol by chance? Those guys, in my opinion, PLAYED that show. Then, to top it off...they buy a car using identity fraud and were arrested!
Is the Defense contract, that we're not even sure of, the only money maker here?!!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Tex, had i liked the answer, i wouldnt still be dwelling on it weeks later.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "rufus said 'i dunno, try rocky road records. rocky and his wife (beverly?)... they should be easy to find."
I don't like that answer...to me? that's a punk'd answer: were I answering the question, I would say something like: "Try rock road records--here's the url, phone number, and address."
nice "dwelling"
"dwelling* is a good thang...devil in the details, etc...
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: One of their subs is "Tserof Holdings Inc"
Tserof spelled backwards is "Forest".
yeah and you cant see the holdings, i mean forest for the trees Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: One of their subs is "Tserof Holdings Inc"
Tserof spelled backwards is "Forest".
yeah and you cant see the holdings, i mean forest for the trees
lol...
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I wonder why they haven't updated their website to indicate the symbol change. Before they did it even before the SEC filing. Curious???
Posted by betting babe on :
bad dial-up connection in fiji?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Actually, it would appear that "Your mortgage alternative" is a wolf in sheeps clothing, so to speak. Go to the http://www.yourmortgagealternative.com/ and click on a couple of different sites within the site. Now, by your "back" button click the down arrow so you can go back some pages. What does it say?
Another virtual office?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: www.yourmortgagealternative.com website is actually livemortgagefreenow.com in a masked frame
but ive already moved past that to this:
FEDERALCHAMBER.ORG = fedchamber.org = 12625 High Bluff Dr. Suite 318 = www.synergyworld.com
If you click "Contact us" in the "yourmortgage" or "live morgtgage free" site it leads you to "Advanced Marketing Concepts, LLC" - which seems to be nothing
If you click "Contact us" in the "Liberty Financial Solutions" site it seems to just loop without giving cintact info.
All of this is just so tacky
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Myra Chack Fleischer, Myra Chack Fleischer 12625 High Bluff Drive, Suite 318, San Diego Co., San Diego, California 92130 U.S.A. Attorney at law
Steven H. Lorber, Law Offices of Steven H. Lorber 12625 High Bluff Drive, Suite 318, San Diego Co., San Diego, California 92130 U.S.A. Attorney at Law
Condit Use Permit #: CUP03323 Construction Type:CUP1 Case Status: APPROVED 20001219 GENERAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Description:CONSTRUCT A 128,834 SQ FT RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER W Location:S/MURR HT SPRNGS RD N/RANCHO CA RD E/15 & 215 FWYS Applicant Info:LANDGRANT DEVELOPMENT 12625 HIGH BLUFF DR SAN DIEGO CA
aaaaaaaaagrgrgrgrhhhhhhhh!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Just got off of work... is it possible to get a quick recap of the last 7 hours???
Posted by dog on :
I hope the concert was free BB...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Just got off of work... is it possible to get a quick recap of the last 7 hours???
Theories, jokes, Paul Anka singing Nirvana and makin everybody hurl, virtual offices, run around web sites, pulled pork sammiches, beer, dope, rufus, what brokers are allowing what, speculation on the "deal" and when and Equine photographers .....that's all I have to say about that.
[ August 09, 2006, 21:34: Message edited by: Livinonklendathu ]
Posted by betting babe on :
i love paul anka. good recap livin.
ill take that as an 'it works' tex...
Posted by portman on :
Yeah, it works...it takes me back...waaayyy back. Posted by dog on :
You are one interesting potato.... I shouldn't talk .. I've seen Weird Al in concert before . . for free and not by choice though. Ahh the things we men do for beautiful women Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Just got off of work... is it possible to get a quick recap of the last 7 hours???
Theories, jokes, Paul Anka singing Nirvana and makin everybody hurl, virtual offices, run around web sites, pulled pork sammiches, beer, dope, rufus, what brokers are allowing what, speculation on the "deal" and when.....that's all I have to say about that.
And Equine photographers
Posted by portman on :
Guy who lives in bug land (Livinonklendathu ),
Best recap I have read yet...Pass me some dead pork and a beer will ya!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So pretty much nothin's changed since last week huh? Man if we all knew where we would be and how much (how little we know) now then we would all have had much healthier immune systems and sleep. I guess this whole thing is kinda like a drug. We can't get enough and when it's all over we'll prolly go through FHAL/CVSU/CSHD theory withdrawel... Thanks for the update, otherwise no significant news to speak of... No Rufus on IHUB or PalTalk, etc, etc.
Posted by portman on :
Love Weird All...dog. I actually have a wide and varied taste in music.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Oh hey, does anyone know anything about the after hours trades that went for 1.09 * 0 shares then 0 for 0 shares then 1.09 * 0 shares then 0 for 0 shares back and forth for about 10 times???
Posted by portman on :
They are freaking out about the bond on TC.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Basically they are saying that the stock lemon "bond" is not "ours" or is fake
from Ihub: Posted by: TallRob0 In reply to: None Date:8/9/2006 9:21:56 PM Post #of 35533
FYI: PDF. of CSHD/FHAL bond on **********.com seems to be a fraud ie,, someone at ********** made it all up.,.. can you say Hello to the RICO Act? I knew you could ................................................................ Today, 09:10 PM #2046 sweetsplat HSM Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: HMS Splat Posts: 1,276 Update
Update: I sent a copy of the bond in .pdf to a contact in Venezuala that I received from Senator John Thune. This source believes that the bond posted in ********** is fraudulent based on his contacts in the government. __________________ Sweetsplat
[ August 09, 2006, 21:53: Message edited by: mnvestor ]
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i love paul anka. good recap livin.
ill take that as an 'it works' tex...
lol...Anka fine by me...
covering Nirvana? Posted by glassman on :
somehow, that seems to complete the insanity BB...
With the higher volume of today...what does everyone think?
quote:Originally posted by buck*******:
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: How is it that if no one can trade this stock today through their broker...so many trades are going through???
People could buy the stock today...and then sell..(flippers) and some were able to call and sell through their broker...and choicetrade had trading on it with old Fhal shares...so lots of people were able to trade it...
Yes but where did the shares come from that were being bought if no one or very few were able to sell?
That is precisely where I was going with my question...
Posted by glassman on :
somehow Anka just isn't angry enough to pull it off for me....
#40. Have you ever wondered why the fluff in your belly button is a uniform blue? Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Someone told me recently that restricted shares covered under rule 144 can be transferred to a foreign broker and then sold after a 30 day waiting period. If i dont fall asleep at the keys here i might look into it more....anyone know if this sounds right?
Posted by glassman on :
catia: if this does hit big? you'll want to know about this stuff...
right now? it's not likely an issue... but i could be wrong, i often am...
Wow, thats some crazy stuff. Someone was just telling me about one of those a few days ago. I saved the link, i cant absorb right now but its amazing how complex this can all get.
Posted by T e x on :
"With the higher volume of today...what does everyone think? "
I think no one can rule out the possibility that "Option A" is in full-swing...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, ive had my fill...at least i managed to DD some other stocks for once. Kinda refreshing.....
gnite
Posted by betting babe on :
but i dont understand how options relate to restricted shares being sold by a foreign broker. did i miss it?
Posted by portman on :
Tex, like I said...would we not have still had to have a reset...to the average price of .98? Besides, the decision would not be tendered to teh company until 2 days prior where the decision would then be made. If the deal closes tomorrow....maybe, but still we did not see a reset.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: but i dont understand how options relate to restricted shares being sold by a foreign broker. did i miss it?
there's ways for insders to get around the filings FOR AWHILE....
but i doubt anybody would be taking options on this stock this year...even if the financials come out exactly as PRed...
but i could be wrong, i often am..
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "With the higher volume of today...what does everyone think? "
I think no one can rule out the possibility that "Option A" is in full-swing...
Hey all... and Tex... i'm on the same lines as you are right now. But obviously this is still up in the air. We need the 10k and everything for this to all fit in place... but anyways, i tried calling probably 10 times this morning before i had to leave. no answer... keep in mind, i have tried calling them almost everyday and still nothing. i even tried from different phone numbers;) but anyways, someone can stomp my theory out fast if they can remember what FHAL closed at yesterday...? i can't. CSHD opened at 1.13 right? now did that gap or was that the initial "average"? just something to ponder and it's late and i'm really tired. i'll try to keep posted tomorrow... busy packin for the big trip...
Posted by betting babe on :
1.125 yesterday close
to be exact, at close i saw/commented:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: officially close at 1.125
...and then they start passin 14s around. go figure.
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "With the higher volume of today...what does everyone think? "
I think no one can rule out the possibility that "Option A" is in full-swing...
Regardless of what "they" decide they "have to" give us a 2 day notice... this from the 8K 2.6
"..Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion,.."
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Actually, it would appear that "Your mortgage alternative" is a wolf in sheeps clothing, so to speak. Go to the http://www.yourmortgagealternative.com/ and click on a couple of different sites within the site. Now, by your "back" button click the down arrow so you can go back some pages. What does it say?
look at the disclaimer on both of these sites. The disclaimer is at the bottom of the page and for both sites is almost identical. This is not a unintentional. These sites are "cookie cutter" same developer different branding. Reuse of the wolf image is just that reuse of a bad animation.
TB
Posted by cool AZ on :
Am I mistaken? ... option A is conditional upon the pps is $15 or higher ...
Just visited IHUB .. cannot believe how many bashers supposedly having no stake in CSHD. They say they are just out to "save us". I could think of many things I'd rather do than spend that kind of time on a stock I have no involvement with!
It was mentioned on **********, as mentioned here earlier today that FHAL/CSHD is shorted 16 mil shares. Rufus bought up all the float except 23 mil shares of which he believes can be accounted for as owned by CVSU shareholders. Sooooo, the way I see it, about 16 mil shares are rest in short position. Where will these shares come from that the shorts are required to cover?
And, is that really all? Found this on IHUB:
Posted by: lasernat In reply to: h2omd0 who wrote msg# 35196 Date:8/9/2006 6:13:30 PM Post #of 35867
Yea Buyins states that whatever is posted as the short it is probably 20 times more as they only report 1 day. Dont know if it is true but from what I am seeing it probably IMO is!
Ok, then what happens when the brokerage houses ask for certs and the stock is not available? The shorts have to cover. It seems like the shorts and the possible institutional investors are going to be in stiff competition for relatively few shares.
Do you see where I'm going with this? I think in this situation the pps should go through the roof! Coupled with the next pr's and the 10k (which Bud says are ready to go) this may be one of the best setups I have yet seen!
Bud also mentions there are some other delails, "not on their end" which should be ironed out in the next couple days.
The details ... I wonder if that could have something to do with getting shares to the brokerages? Scottrade told me today they will be ready to go when they receive the certs.
Food for thought.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hmmm, im not sure if i follow your "cookie cutter" explaination but try something to see what im talking about. I think they are more than "cookie cutter", one is more like a clone.
Try a "View source" on each site. Or a "Properties" for that matter. They both come from Liberty Financial Inc.
Que : X-Files theme song
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Am I mistaken? ... option A is conditional upon the pps is $15 or higher ...
im not even gonna go here again.
wording in the 8K to me reads option A is not conditional.
rufus "said" they were going with C. rufus "said" ignore A. everyone "said" it was conditional, must be an 8K typo...
i debated this subject weeks ago and i was poohpoohed left & right.
so, whatever will be shall be. or a or c.
~BB
Posted by cool AZ on :
Yes BB, you're right, that's probably where I remember that from ... I know Rufus said it would most likely be C.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I followed both sites hosting companies and both ended on seperate cookie cutter templates, odd I would have expected them to be the same options but noticed only one thing that stood out. All web sites for this company are extreemly cheap.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Hmmm, im not sure if i follow your "cookie cutter" explaination but try something to see what im talking about. I think they are more than "cookie cutter", one is more like a clone.
Try a "View source" on each site. Or a "Properties" for that matter. They both come from Liberty Financial Inc.
Que : X-Files theme song
OK I see what you are talking about, but once again I do not see this as alarming. If anything it is validation that the wolf on both sites is being reused legally rather than illeagally. Basically, we are both right. The sites are cookie cutter, from the same developer "Liberty Financial" but are differently branded to sell different products. This is not uncommon. I remember working for an Underwriter for Automobile Warranty Insurance. They had a totally different department which auctioned off cars they reclaimed after disasters. It was branded so that from first and second glance they appeared as seperate companies, but in fact they were built in the same department and run from the same server. Disclaimers are similar because the legal department wrote it once and the developers reused it.
Anyway I still do not see it as x-file crazy, as I am now more suspicious of Liberty Financial and who they are.
Posted by betting babe on :
TB, website tonite is a very popular application that hosts offer their customers to create their own sites. goDaddy is a big one that offers it (and i believe they are secureserver.net)
that's prob why they all look the same... templates.
it's like 3 bux a month when you pay hosting. only prob is you cant take it with you
~BB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
There it is... look at the address given on the Seminar page. It is a Liberty Financial site.
quote:Liberty Financial Solutions, Inc. 27450 Ynez Road Suite 224 Temecula CA 92591
Feeling better... except that I do not know who Liberty is... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Night all big day tomorrow... or not. Posted by SYGY on :
who know's anything anymore!!!I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BIG I MEAN HUGE!PARTY WHEN THIS IS DONE!!if we lose we still get 3-4 bucks a share if we win we get 50-60 bucks a share maybe more!!!BUT MAN I CAN SEE EVERYBODY'S STRESSING-OUT!! i think we all need to get s-h-i-t faced very sOON!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: thehavenots--CUTE -I-HUB POST---========================================================================= ========================== In reply to: BuzzOnDaBeach who wrote msg# 35899 Date:8/10/2006 1:09:18 AM Post #of 35942
common, sing with me:
So close to 15 no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who CVSU are and nothing else matters
never opened my wallet in this way trading stocks is ours, we live it our way all these flips I don't just say and nothing else matters
trust I seek and I find in Rufus every day we wait for him to PR us something new open mind for a different view(moving slowly through the system) and nothing else matters
never cared for what they do (Wall Street) never cared for what they know (Money is god) but I know
so close to 15 no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who CVSU are and nothing else matters
Posted by portman on :
Tex...I did the 20 day closing price calc... it's 0.98....
From the 8-K
"Actual Average Closing Price" means, with respect to the Buyer's Stock, the average of the daily closing sales price thereof on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System during the twenty (20) trading day period ending three (3) Business Days prior to the Closing Date, as reported in The Wall Street Journal.
Posted by portman on :
TDA folks...
Our symbol is now N/A. Support says it is just part of the process. Call and you can still trade it at internet trade pricing.
Posted by djg7 on :
Mine shows the same in my etrade account. I would have to call and talk to a rep if I wanted to trade CSHD through etrade. Oh by the way, this won't happen because I'm holding strong. I like the risk and entertainment value of this stock at this time.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning Board ~ Glad I had a strong coffee this morning, alot was gone over and still we are LONG, Glad to hear it!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Still no new shares in my Scottrade account either... -Who all has there's???
And What Broker are you useing?
Posted by dog on :
My Scottrade still in limbo as well... damn.. not too helpful on phone either. When this is done.. have to find new online trader. Any recommendations?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Im with Etrade and today there is 35904R103 where FHAL was, or CSHD should be now. It appears thats a common situation with Etrade today.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
TDA and I have nothing. As a matter of fact yesterday if I typed in CSHC into my streamer it would show me L2's for CSHC. Now it shows me cash can again.
Posted by unclerudy on :
I keep hearing the theme from Eurotrip going over and over in my head after all of these posts...
"Scotty doesn't know. Scotty doesn't know. Scotty doesn't know."
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: TDA and I have nothing. As a matter of fact yesterday if I typed in CSHC into my streamer it would show me L2's for CSHC. Now it shows me cash can again.
Thats because it is Cash Can. You want CSHD. Posted by RyanPBF on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RyanPBF: [QB] TDA and I have nothing.
Posted by malchiang on :
I heard that $15 a share is the target by management
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I caught that right after I did it.
Posted by a surfer on :
ask 1.01
Posted by Chartwalker on :
gapping down today, thx lemon Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning All! I am seeing a bunch of early trades on L2's this am. Other than that all is well and Scottrade updated my balances but no CSHD appears yet. Onwards ....
Posted by Gameplayers on :
quote:Originally posted by malchiang: I heard that $15 a share is the target by management
Isn't the management = Rufus & Ben?
Posted by SYGY on :
morning!
Posted by dog on :
Still no news eh? If Rufus is waiting for the smoke to clear on this symbol change.. it may take some time. I'm thinking they might let this float til Friday, 10K and open on Monday. There had better be some real positive communication to support the current PPS though.
Posted by P Rowds on :
Hey thanks bettingbabe... should have seen that... sorry, hard to keep up lately. well, tex... gonna hafta see if rufus keeps his word with option C... GLA...
Posted by portman on :
and I ahve more cleared funds.... Might be my day to buy. maybe...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
bid and ask all screwed up ~
Posted by milliam on :
Halted???
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Halted???
Certainly not.
Posted by milliam on :
Nevermind...slow streamer or really low volume. It just didn't do anything when the market opened. After see all of the pre-market trades, I expected it to go right at 9:30.
Posted by milliam on :
Double post
Posted by malchiang on :
is there some news release?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WOW!!! just did an Edgar search on CSHD!!! All the old Furia filings are now CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HLDGS C.
anyone else see the gap between .08 and .17?
Posted by betting babe on :
my streamer started sales at 9:24am
TDA - also n/a on the ticker symbol in my portfolio.
g'mornin all would like to see some nooooz.
~BB
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i'm curious why this gapped down...only to come right back up to the close?
also...on the edgar page...when clicking on people...who exactly does that represent? employees?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Good morning peeps - and Paul Anka fans - Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: anyone else see the gap between .08 and .17?
crab... if this is indeed the old fhal chart. There was a small gap around .135 and .14 I havn't looked at the chart in a while but i *think* you may be talking about that one. Maumee was talking about it when this thing was at .16-.20 it never ended up filling....
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: anyone else see the gap between .08 and .17?
crab... if this is indeed the old fhal chart. There was a small gap around .135 and .14 I havn't looked at the chart in a while but i *think* you may be talking about that one. Maumee was talking about it when this thing was at .16-.20 it never ended up filling....
I'm sorry...i didn't clarify...that should've been written as 1.08 and 1.17 it was on the ask when it started to go up again...
Posted by dog on :
Here we are at the dollar mark again... pay attention everyone if ye can, I still think someone is always trying very hard to make sure the stock doesn't spend much time below a dollar... some interesting trade patters have happened on this before.
Posted by SYGY on :
looks like your right dog!
Posted by portman on :
Dog...let's assume an attemp to stay above $1.
What are you reading into that at this point?
Posted by SYGY on :
well if it goes under 1 buck that would put most of us in a negative situation! thats suck's!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
I have been checking the Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. website (CVSU.US) and the home page continues to display Fronthaul Group Inc. name and FHAL symbol. It appears that the website has not been updated with the new symbol CSHD.......Is there a different website that has launched in the last couple of days??????
Posted by Chartwalker on :
still seeing nice sized buys going thru ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
they don't have any email addresses on their website? did they take them off, or have they never been there?
Posted by dog on :
Option A possibility... Attitude towards this stock for MM's..
It just seems like when it's at the dollar mark.. someone buys 100-200 shares for 1.08 or 1.10..
Making us chase the dollar!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Option A possibility... Attitude towards this stock for MM's..
It just seems like when it's at the dollar mark.. someone buys 100-200 shares for 1.08 or 1.10..
Making us chase the dollar!
A couple of day ago I had posted that... The charts seemed to be "pushed"
And we are still seeing that, even on hard dips it slams back to that dollar in no time. Which I don't mind AT ALL Posted by dog on :
Yes it's being "manipulated"...
Posted by SYGY on :
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 329 Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Cell Phone: 678-255-7650
Ben Stanley
Chief Operating Officer
Cell Phone: 317-213-7700
Posted by Chartwalker on :
nice to be on this side of it for once!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
well...if that is the case...and it certianly appears that way...then they must have an MM working with them right?
Posted by P Rowds on :
Hey all... i just got off the phone with Ben Stanley. He said that the new ticker will halt and then open back up at 15 dollars, as some have conjured... I then asked if this will occur after the 10k and s4 was released and he stated yes. I asked him if there was a time frame they would be released and he said "we're working on them right now" Now... that kind of frustrated me because they were *supposed* to be released last week or so. What in the hell could they still be working on? I replied "oh thats great" and then asked him if there was a time frame when we can expect this as in this week or maybe next week and he replied "we're working on them as we speak"
He sounded a little aggravated. Now... keep in mind yes, i did get through and talk to them alot 2 weeks ago. since then i havn't really called too much and never got through. So, i guess what i'm getting at is i was a little unimpressed with his patience for a shareholder. but on the otherhand, i can accept his frustration due to hundreds of shareholders calling a day and probably asking the same question. So thats all i bring to the table for now. We'll see when this takes shape... I didn't want to ask too many more questions... as i said, he sounded irritated.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Sorry to ask this as I am sure it has been covered... Has there been any update or change or mention as to how long it will be halted...
I have been unable to follow the chatter the last couple days,,,
Thanks!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thanks prowds...
I guess that answered my question...
Posted by P Rowds on :
maumee i wanted to ask that but it was awkward talking with him. and in all honesty, it seemed everytime i talked with ben it was kind of like that. On the other hand, rufus was very nice and friendly every time i talked to him. guess ya just hafta catch ben on the right day;) i havn't been able to get a hold of rufus since the old thread was at page17 or so... and now he has a different phone number on the PR's that goes to a receptionist. He must have seen some bashers post "A real CEO doesn't answer his phone and talk to regular investors" Posted by maumee river rat on :
The answer is.... WE HAVE NO F-ING CLUE!!! Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
P Rowds...when speaking...did it sound like "working on it right now" was refering to working on getting it sent out...or workng on the document itself...or working on finalizing the documents...
meaning...were you able to feel out anything in the tone of the response other than frustration?
Posted by portman on :
PR...great work. Sort of what I expected. I would not be surprised if they are sparring with accounting over some of the past FHAL financials and trying to validate aspects.
The impression I have is Rufus has some backing on his side with cash in hand as we have discussed.
I really do not see a halt before EOW at best. But my new comfortable target is 1-2 weeks.
BTW, I think the $1 also represents a shareholder support level from a psychological stand point. If it dips to .9, .8 or .7 I see a lot of exits from this stock. I agree ... manipulated.
Posted by P Rowds on :
hard to say crab... i asked "any idea when the 10k and s4 will be released?" and he said "we're working on it as we speak" so... could be working on them as in documents right now... or could be working on getting them released right now... you guys can try calling and maybe getting some answers. good luck tho... i would imagine they're screening calls pretty heavily. I got through, but i think i may have a trick up my sleeve on getting through;) haha
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well, since all you guys like to quote "bud" from Ihub, he says "its finished" ......
Posted by 10of13 on :
So nobody thinks they will give us the 2 day notice?
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "With the higher volume of today...what does everyone think? "
I think no one can rule out the possibility that "Option A" is in full-swing...
Regardless of what "they" decide they "have to" give us a 2 day notice... this from the 8K 2.6
"..Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion,.."
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i thought that notice was part of the reg? although i suppose if this is all a farce...a little fine isn't exactly going to be the biggest concern...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
"Us" - nope, the "Company" yes. We won't know until it happens I'm thinking.
Posted by betting babe on :
does it say they have to give written notice publicly?
:-X i said i wouldnt discuss optionA anymore...
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I wonder if this stuff ever materialized. I tried calling the number at the bottom for more info and got voicemail that Pat is out of town today. I think ill try again later and tomorrow.....
No trades for 5 minutes?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Is this about nerv wracking, or what?
Posted by new2stocks on :
where's the rolaids?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: No trades for 5 minutes?
how ya watchen that???
Posted by dog on :
On level II's Trade at 10:39, next at 10:48
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
10:51:07 as well...lol...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
L2's arent showen up on microcap....Blank screen
Posted by 10of13 on :
Seems everyone is holding their breath...very few trades...I guess that is better than a "panic" sell...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Maumee ... nerve racking? ... can you imagine how nerv racking it must be for Ben and Rufus?
I know how it is to be in the midst of concentrating on something and then someone interupts and you lose your train of thought. I think these guys need a little break.
Hey P Rowds, I know what your trick is in getting Ben on the phone ... you just program your phone with the identity "Rufus". LOL
Hanging LONG! GLTA
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I might be giving more credit then what is due but.... If Rufus "REALLY" thought this thing thru this is really a perfect CEO powerplay!!!....
"""IF..."""
Rufus would have HAD TO buy out the float for someone to keep the PPS high for the Nas and for institutional $$$! -Then he could "promise" shares to Institutions by holding off on the 10k and accounts settling, institutions would be interested because of the assets and deals coming and (among other things) even that Trust that the Float is in goes way up in value which helps his bottom line with the 10k ALSO -right?!
Another PLUS!
Rufus was big on talking about "who is driving the boat" -remember ~
Did this all happen by accident?, or did he iron out "The Perfect Storm" by trying to do this before with other companies but ran into problems which FHAL doesn't have! -resetting the price and that loophole with FHAL -bankrupt...
Cha-ching!!!$$$$
If so then "The Eagle has landed" indeed! -as Rufus stated in one of his first PR's....
Just think about the DEPTH of this.... and yes you would expect that from someone who has been trying to do this very thing with other companies IMO. Has Rufus and his team learned as they went, then when FHAL came alone and it fit the bill they jumped on it, KNOWING that the price would reset to $15 and that would give them great POWER and LEVERAGE with institutional investors for his company?!!!...
Is that why he is so "buy the crap out of it!."? He talks BOLDLY, and wouldn't you if that is just what is going on BEHIND the scenes?...
Is this why Rufus PROMISED his people that they would get a 1 for 1 share of FHAL for every share they held of CVSU and that it WOULD be worth $15 or he would make up the differance after the first day of trading at $15?!!!!
"?"
How BOLD is that!!!
Time will tell if we are dealing with a REAL CEO, or not. This is what REAL CEO's do! That is why they get paid big bucks for powerplays and squeezes! CAUSE THEY ARE WORTH IT!!!
I think WE ARE sitting good!
This is perfect and all of our pieces are fitting together perfect. I got goose bumps!!! lol ~
I like you guys and all, but NO ONE is getting any of my shares!
Hope I'm right for all our sakes like I still think I was right about that dog barking at the dollar mark! GLTA! Peace out ~
Posted by dog on :
Another stall...10 minutes since last trade
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Another stall...10 minutes since last trade
LOL..every time you post that a trade goes through...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Right on Chart! You're thinking like Rufus ... that is the way these guys think.
Posted by dog on :
I know... my biz partner has 80k shares bid at around $1.00.... he may not fill today!
Posted by casviper on :
he is spending $80,000 on this stock. WOW!!! good luck to him. I hope he invites us to his new beach house. I'll bring the beer.
Posted by SYGY on :
he should bump his bid up just a little!!!if he's going to spend huge!go all out!!!lol!lol!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Great post Chartwalker!
Posted by dog on :
No sh**.. if he hits, it'll be sick...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Hey dog, low of day I see was $1.00 ...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I know... my biz partner has 80k shares bid at around $1.00.... he may not fill today!
haha...tell him to pop that back to 75k shares and bid of 1.06...give us a little boost, lol...
Posted by SYGY on :
CHART WAY TO GO! we need more people to post like that!
Posted by dog on :
The MM's see the volume of his bid... they keep trying to get him yo hedge up... that bump from 1.02 happened right after placed bid!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, nice post Chartwalker.....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thanks Board Posted by SYGY on :
has anybody talked to these guys lately??? Integrity Stock Transfer, Las Vegas, NV 89120 (702) 317-7757
Posted by dog on :
ARCA trying to pull it up...
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: sceptor HERE'S ANOTHER I-HUB POST!!-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- In reply to: Ziggydmz1 who wrote msg# 36350 Date:8/10/2006 11:30:38 AM Post #of 36368
This should help others understand the process of big business.
Here's how the process works,
Mr. Harris has his audited financials. He takes them to an outside objective third party (Financial Analyst) approved by all the appropriate parties...this third party looks over the financial docs, contract, 8K's, 10Q's, and validates all the other information at hand and the analyst says "I think this stock is worth XX.XX."
Mr. Harris takes this analyst report to major banks and Insurance companies and says..."I have this report and the supporting documentation that when I get though all this BS of report filing and ticker changes and all this other crap...My stock should be worth XX.XX." The banks, brokerage houses, insurance companies then respond...either they agree or dis-agree.
If they agree, a contract is written that they will buy the surplus Outstanding shares to a certain stock price...lets say 40.00 per share...like google...BTW these contracts should be in the 10K when it comes out as well.
So, just for grins lets hypothicate...the analyst says you got a book value of 10.00 per share, I believe with contracts and other crap you can have a stock of 30.00 per share. The price will come out at 30.00 in this case and people will start dumping shares...but thats ok because the banks, brokerage houses and Insurance companies want you to dump it because they are either gonna want to hold it for a later date or sell it to their clients or a hundred other things that can be done with stock...like sell it to short MM's.
And they are under contract to buy out the float to 40.00 per share...
All this is just an example...but Mr. Harris has already stated he has Instutional buyers in place...BTW these guys won't touch a stock under 5.00 per share...and they don't care about paying the difference at all. This no touch policy is written into their corporate charters etc...
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning...hmm maybe I will come back at eod to see what's happening?! I guess friday or monday we will see something to help out...mo Posted by dog on :
That gives me a warm tingly feeling like the first time I kissed agirl! Oh if it were true....
Posted by dog on :
Moving up.... are we going to see the contradictory lunchtime run once again?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Oh if it were true....
meaning you have info to the contrary or you really just want to see that happen? not being a prick or anything, lol...it's just that one can read that a couple of different ways...
Posted by dog on :
No... I really want it to happen... I'm in deep, and long
Posted by SYGY on :
No... I really want it to happen... I'm in deep, and long
ARE WE TALKING STOCK'S HERE!!LOL!LOL!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: No... I really want it to happen... I'm in deep, and long
ARE WE TALKING STOCK'S HERE!!LOL!LOL!
Yea, wtf dog? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
cool...i wish the internet had an inflection button, lol...
Posted by dog on :
Hey.. someone with intellect on iHub (no offense to posters there.. I just try not to participate on that board)
Posted by: Ziggydmz1 Post #of 36396
I am only going to say this one more time as I have already stated it before.
Institutions do not invest in stocks at this level. There are deals to be released after the stock reset happens that make this company just as much worth $15 pps as other companies with defense contracts and of the sort IMO. Institutions invest their client's money not their own so they would wait to see if the claims of what is to come are true. Why would they invest in it for 1.10 if it does not move higher than that. They want proof of the contracts that we will hopefully get after the 10K. Would you risk all of your client's money without proof if you had any clients. No so why don't you come back to reality wait until it unfolds and then get on your knees when you are wrong.
Posted by luvforever on :
Just my thoughts... Would be nice if Mr. Ruffus would at least tell us when this 10k might come to fruitation...that way we don't feel the need to sit and stare at our puter screen all day... Just a kindness that would be appreciated,I do beleive, he'd want that too if he were a shareholder....waiting.... Posted by dog on :
Judging by the amount of time I see you people on this board, including BB , you have to be ignoring your "significant others" this week.
Yes... we all have a deep and meaningful relationship with this stock... my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Significant other? Never would I ignore, I wash and wax it on a regular basis.
Posted by dog on :
LOL.... but I digress.."never fall in love with a stock"
I got rid of several significant others during my divorce... However they will be replaced if Rufus comes thru, for sure...
NSX and a Range Rover... back in da game!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Think the flippers have left the building! ha ha ~
Posted by casviper on :
my ameritrade account has this listed as N/A on my account. Does anyone else have ameritrade and how is it listed?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
is anyone else suprised the volume is even this high? aren't all of the shares being bought and sold right now technically short?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Hey luv, this is the work of it all! Enjoy the ride!
Posted by dog on :
I have Scottrade.. and my value of the shares of FHAL# is N/A as well.... no worries
Posted by milliam on :
My TDA account shows the N/A as well. Wonder for how long???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: is anyone else suprised the volume is even this high? aren't all of the shares being bought and sold right now technically short?
I think so.... -because of what Scottrade said.
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: None Date:8/10/2006 9:41:15 AM Post #of 36160
Update from Ben
Posted at HSM
I just got off the phone with Ben and he said they were going to make annoucement and to stand by. I don't know how long it will be, but he made ti sound liek it would be sometime today....
My exact questionw as though in the next few days would ther eby a pr, and he said they were going to pr almost immeaditily. i then asked him if fhals financials are back from auditor and he said said something like stand by..... take it for what it is worth. he seemed pretty busy. i should've asked more, but i really didn't expect him to answer the phone
Posted by dog on :
OK I'll get it moving...
NO TRADES for 14 minutes...
Posted by milliam on :
Make that 15 minutes.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
NEWS OUT!!!!!!!!
-just kidding! lol
What a dink I am huh? -hey beats falling asleep!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
OMG Chartwalker...that was mean!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
HA Ha......Mom always said "A watched pot does not boil"......wait'n on this one as it keeps simmering..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: OMG Chartwalker...that was mean!
-come on now.... All in fun ~
Posted by cool AZ on :
Woke me up Chart!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
If only I could wake the PPS up
BUT... I do see this as a great sign, now that flippers are gone we can see that no one is in a hurry to sell, and that means that everyone is happy to hold --which in turn means (IMO) that the market came up with the same conclusions we did here, that... ---"WE're going to $15!"
This is getting closer and closer to reality everyday IMO ~
Posted by luvforever on :
I know cool anyways just vacummed my pool and decided to see what I missed lol Posted by dog on :
Interesting !
Posted by: skeptic0 Post #of 36546
I just spoke to the transfer agent Don Madallon. He does not have any new shares to issue nor will there be new shares to be issued.
It's in the hands of the DTC - Depository Trust Companies. They need to settle all the Shares before the Symbol Change is Complete.
I spoke to Ameritrade and they first told me they were waiting for the shares from the Transfer Agent and I called them back and relayed the info I found.
Ameritrade now states that the DTC has provided a Swing Date of 8/14/06. So the 3 day rule is in effect and we should be able to trade them on Monday.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey... Doesn't this place "BUYINS . net" (take out spaces) count how many shorts there are for a price??? Alot of penny companies here post their reports as PR's, SMMW did that just a bit ago to name one.
Why couldn't one of us do the same?????????
Any ideas on this idea???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
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Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Is this thing on??? Posted by Chartwalker on :
no kidding! ha ~
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
tick tock.....tick tock....waiting patiently..
Posted by new2stocks on :
I just ate a hole container of pringles while sitting here waiting....LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Just something to read......
Vishamerica: you should said yes dg dgambar8: hahaha Hoju147: dogman has been around for a coulple weeks dgambar8: man Hoju147: he says he got in on a private placement of FHAL, 2 yrs ago new2market: no hes the one that started the first thread new2market: on hsm new2market: about fhal Hoju147: thru Mike Alexander dgambar8: 8/14 .... ameirtrade will recieve shares dogmando: you are right Hoju147: i didnt know that new2 new2market: yep netminder3: i found this on another site Hoju147: he hasn't changed his story...ive got no reason not to believe him dogmando: yes james i am James1342: dogman, i understand u got ur FHAL shares ages ago James1342: from Mike James1342: may i ask what u think of this merger deal? as in Rufus, and $15?? Vishamerica: 500k huh? James1342: did Mike tell u anything about it? wccharlotte: WNCP is a real teaser today Vishamerica: thats a lot of dough!!! dogmando: i bought them from the original company James1342: yea, so? he could have got it really really cheap James1342: some ppl got 150k and 100k here dogmando: i was the 5th guy in fhal 2 years ago James1342: all because they got in at 10 cents dogmando: i have 498,500 shares Vishamerica: 500k * .10 is still a lot of money dogmando: amen James1342: dogman dogmando: hard not to take profits Hoju147: u aren't the 5th guy in w/out something like 50K James1342: may i ask what u think of this merger deal? James1342: u took ur profit?? dogmando: no dogmando: i am holding James1342: what u think of this merger deal? netminder3: dam i thought my 122k was alot......500k wow James1342: Rufus? James1342: $15? James1342: did mike tell u anything? joker620: i got in last year...had over 400k...sold some at 1.50, now riding over 300k freebies dogmando: i won't sell below 15 James1342: i know 3 guys got 2.6 millions together, that's worth $39 million USD dogmando: i think this deal is great Vishamerica: hehe dogmando: that is col dogmando: cool James1342: is this real deal or a scam as some suggested? dogmando: real dogmando: very real James1342: did Mike tell u anything? James1342: about this deal beaches777: if he's holding, James,he must think it's real wccharlotte: this conversation sounds a little suspect dogmando: I wouldn't ask him too dogmando: why? dogmando: believe me or not I will be laughing to the bank James1342: thought u know Mike in person? no? dogmando: yes dogmando: friends and business dogmando: different Vishamerica: who is this MIKE? James1342: is Mike going to sell at $15 as well? dgambar8: 7.5 Mill dogmando: original ceo of fhal michael_ws: Of course its suspect...charlotte....if everyone who said they held over 100K is true...then we would be up to a flaot of around 1 billion Vishamerica: oh wccharlotte: just sounds scripted to me Vishamerica: doesnt MIke have a lot of FHAL shares too!! Trout31: ha..ha...michael_ws dgambar8: its does charlotte dogmando: give me a fax and I will prove it dogmando: what do you think dogmando: of course he has shares James1342: is Mike going to sell at $15 as well? Flipperbw: so...what's goin on my boys Flipperbw: and girls. dogmando: i have every certificate copied Flipperbw: mike? James1342: just talking about ppl with big load of shares dogmando: I don't know beaches777: y'all are so suspicious of everyone LOL dgambar8: 267 364 5109 dgambar8: fax James1342: dogmando, will get $7.5 million USD, at $15 a share Vishamerica: lol wccharlotte: side effect of penny land beaches777: y'all give him your fax number James1342: beaches, are u holding lots of shares as well? James1342: 100k? Vishamerica: hehe beaches777: he will prove it netminder3: what these ppl dont releaize is that the 3.5 billion rufus already lined up to buy when this hits the nasd at 15.00 for whoever sells is gona send this way aboove 15.00... beaches777: no James, nowhere near that many James1342: 10k? dogmando: dgam if I do this will everyone believe me then Trout31: thast pretty impressive if...true
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I just ate a hole container of pringles while sitting here waiting....LOL
SLOB! Posted by new2stocks on :
Originally Posted by legalnoob I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one Amp.
The one thing I find telling about the "is the merger complete or not" argument is that my FHAL shares we owned by Fronthaul Group; but the new symbol that took the place of my FHAL shares is owned by Conversion Solutions. Just a thought, if the merger was not finalized, why would my fronthaul shares be exchanged with shares of Conversion Solutions.
I have closed a couple of small private company mergers before, and the only time we exchange somone's shares for the shares of the surviving company is at the Closing. That is not to say that a Closing has occurred with Fronthaul and Conversion Solutions, its just my curious observation.
If this were merely a symbol change, wouldn't the current FHAL shareholders be trading under CSHD with Fronthaul Group as the owner of CSHD and not Conversion Solutions?
Any thoughts?
Posted by Jo4321 on :
quote: I just ate a whole container of pringles while sitting here waiting....LOL
That's a coincidence....me too! Mine were the ones with jokes on them, though. So I had something to keep me occupied.
Jo
Posted by new2stocks on :
I didn't have jokes on my pringles container....I feel robbed!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
the jokes are right on the chip themselves how about that. Now I bet you really feel robbed. j/k
Posted by portman on :
I have jokes in my Bazookka Bubble gum.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
They are printing jokes now on Pringles? I have to get out more often.
Posted by new2stocks on :
not to change the subject but check out FFPM!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: not to change the subject but check out FFPM!
WTF..... what happened there?!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
My only concern about "dogmando" is that everyone is quick to jump on board with someone talking "positive" things but if a negatve comment comes out they freak. Ok, not everyone....but some choice folks from choice boards. Anyway, so this guy comes along and starts talkin all peachy and hes everyones best friend. I hope he is sincere and i hope he knows what he is talking about, but my "hopes" and reality arent always the same. The same goes for the Bud guy. Two people who "leak" info in a very positive manner would have been labelled "pumpers" 2 months ago. Its funny how this has all changed, i hope it isnt clouding peoples vision too much.....you know what i mean?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Hmmm, now I have cash and want to buy moooore but since nothing is happenning I'm wondering WTF?
I'm CONFLICTED!
Posted by new2stocks on :
hellooooo?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
This is the quietest eod since i bought in i think LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
800K traded all day... WOW... Someone grab the defibulator.
I don't think I have ever been this happy with low volume.
Posted by sceptor on :
dogmando is simply a private investor from the days of furia. he's no pumper, he's not on the inside leaking information, he's just really happy that his investment choice from years ago is paying off far higher than he ever imagined. Just like the rest of us.
there are quite a few like him that come out occasionally and express themselves.
Posted by new2stocks on :
dogmando is one lucky guy!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: dogmando is simply a private investor from the days of furia. he's no pumper, he's not on the inside leaking information, he's just really happy that his investment choice from years ago is paying off far higher than he ever imagined. Just like the rest of us.
there are quite a few like him that come out occasionally and express themselves.
I wasnt calling him a pumper, i just have to wonder how much he actually knows. Im just remaining somewhat skeptical in the final hours is all. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't totally buy it either... You telling me this guy didn't sell a majority at 0.14, 0.40, 0.65, 0.80, 1.00, or even 1.61. Why put yourself through all this torture when you have made your money?
I don't know the guy and I am not bashing on his good fortune. I am just in awe that someone like that never cashed in.
TB
Posted by coalkickin on :
70,000 shares at 1.049....ummmm
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Didn't even break a million volume today... Heart Rate: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEE
Posted by unclerudy on :
Looks like we are flying in a holding pattern, until we get the authorization to land, or take off as the case may be.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: dogmando is simply a private investor from the days of furia. he's no pumper, he's not on the inside leaking information, he's just really happy that his investment choice from years ago is paying off far higher than he ever imagined. Just like the rest of us.
there are quite a few like him that come out occasionally and express themselves.
I wasnt calling him a pumper, i just have to wonder how much he actually knows. Im just remaining somewhat skeptical in the final hours is all.
It doesnt really matter at this point. Remember up until a month ago his shares were in a tailspin. Your signature actually represents his feelings perfectly.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I don't totally buy it either... You telling me this guy didn't sell a majority at 0.14, 0.40, 0.65, 0.80, 1.00, or even 1.61. Why put yourself through all this torture when you have made your money?
I don't know the guy and I am not bashing on his good fortune. I am just in awe that someone like that never cashed in.
TB
you knew all of this would happen? Man I need to follow your trades closely.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Looks like another great day in CSHD land, lol! C'mon Rufus, get that 10K out. Schwab now has a CUSIP # assigned to my shares, they told me not to sell until they recieve the shares and I see the ticker in my account. Otherwise if I sell now I could end up in a short position going into $15 ! Yikes !
The guy I spoke to seemed to think this was legit, and stated that he has seen pps reset's done before.
Anyway did you all see this article at Yahoo Finance today ? lol.
Sure, buddy, buy your 20 shares of Mickey D's...I trade my penny stocks for my 200% average gains over any blue chip anyday. Stay away from pennies. Please like the NASDQ, NYSE and AMEX stocks are any safer ! Give me a break.
Posted by Lauralai on :
can anyone recommend a good penny stock screener? i seem to remember a reference to one on the old FHAL thread, but after going through about 60 pages trying to fid it, my eyes are crossing. anyone care to help a newbie out?
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Oh no!! I have a 45 minute drive home!! Someone setup the VCR...im on my way!! Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Lauralai: can anyone recommend a good penny stock screener? i seem to remember a reference to one on the old FHAL thread, but after going through about 60 pages trying to fid it, my eyes are crossing. anyone care to help a newbie out?
smallcapcenter.com
stockcharts.com
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I don't totally buy it either... You telling me this guy didn't sell a majority at 0.14, 0.40, 0.65, 0.80, 1.00, or even 1.61. Why put yourself through all this torture when you have made your money?
I don't know the guy and I am not bashing on his good fortune. I am just in awe that someone like that never cashed in.
TB
you knew all of this would happen? Man I need to follow your trades closely.
I am just saying it is not often you see balls of pure hardened steel. I think the guy said he had 500K at $0.10 avg. That is $50k on the line, and two weeks ago when it hit a buck fifty his value was then $750K. One M N 1 broad cast and he lost $150K of value in 30 minutes.
I would be taking Nitro pills with my Valium if I gave away +150K in 30 minutes.
Additionally, to go through the last the past couple of weeks without cashing in some or most of his shares this guy has got to be either super wealthy, in which “I totally lose interest in his comments because this is considered chump change to him, and I can’t listen to him because we decide things based on very different factors.”, or he is has stones the size of Mount Rushmore in which “I have to question his stability and or investment advice when he has made outstanding money on his initial investment but has not withdrawn any profits to date.”
Occam's razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory. Paraphrased: "The simplest explanation is the best one".
So you tell me:
1. This guy is truely blessed after being duped into putting $50K into Furia. 2. This guy is super wealthy and spends his pocket change on Penny movie start-ups. 3. This guy knows many investors are gulible and is having fun getting attention.
You should know in advance that we are debating something I have little or no feelings towards. Frankly I don’t care who he is, how nice he is, or how wealthy or lucky he is. I just hope I get my sell order in before he dumps his shares for his millions because it is going to definitely have an effect when he does.
Peace, Love, and hug a tree... I don’t want to fight.... Today .
Posted by portman on :
Ok, if anyone captures the paltak session I will be happy to put it up on my personal web server tonight for us all to view...I am sure it will be too long to post here.
I have to take The Wife and kids to dinner now.
Posted by portman on :
Tax,
I explain it by Dumb luck. Simple and to the point.
Posted by Vin on :
I'm not familiar with Paltalk but it's on my computer. Do you need his name or id to log into this?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Just your own - log in and go to traders corner live
Posted by Vin on :
Got it! Thanks.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Rumor is Rufus will be in at 7:00 est
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Jesus Christmas why am I getting a bad feeling about this interview? Maybe it would be better if Rufus just does not do it and let's progress with the game plan as we have been doing...
What scares me is that he is going to say something like they decided to go with option a, and there will be no price reset after all. Of course most brokers haven't gotten the certs in and we won't be able to sell.
That is the nightmare scenario that scares me...someone make me feel better !
Everytime Rufus goes on one of these interviews it seems to do more harm then good...jmo.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
The way it seems to me is that Rufus has played this whole thing quite well, sure we have run into unforseen problems like the ticker not being avalible, but as covered in many above posts, he has seemed to mastered this whole situation, maybe ingeinously. He seems to know the way the market and penny traders work. Not to mention that dispite the ups and the downs Fhal/Cshd has mantained a high pps without dropping to like .10 or something. Rufus knows the game and if he feels confident going on PalTalk then I do to, maybe even moreconfident. maybe he is being nice inthis by allowing shorts to cover in extended hours or something or maybe finding some way to screw them over completly LOL. But I say let him speak and bring on the 10K! Let's turn the page...Oh look a new chapter! JMHO
Posted by Vin on :
We haven't really had the best of luck after he speaks... He's due!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Traders Corner is FILLIN UP! A lot of people are on the edge of their seats here it seems. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I rushed home got myself a beer plugged in the laptop and head phones. Ready to listen to RUFAS!!!! Posted by Chartwalker on :
Please post what happens for those of us who will miss it PAAALLLLEEEEEASSSSSSSSSE ~~~~
LOL Thank you in advance! GLT us all!! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They are going to try and record it, I will make mental notes, but I am not nearly the typist as BB and will not be able to provide detailed notes like the last interview.
I will do my best to catch the highlights. Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
I just wanted to let you all know we're counting on you. Good luck.
Posted by Vin on :
Sounds like they're concerned about the room getting filled...if they arent there already.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh lovely Absolut is not only back but he is wishing me luck... *{feeling sick}* Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Oh lovely Absolut is not only back but he is wishing me luck... *{feeling sick}*
If he acts up I got a suprise for em'
Posted by Vin on :
236 in the room so far.
Posted by dog on :
I am in the room now and will transcribe as best I can if you want
Posted by Vin on :
Hey Livin...as long as we're waiting for Rufus...how are those insurance rates down there. Sounds like you guys are getting surcharged to death!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Hey Livin...as long as we're waiting for Rufus...how are those insurance rates down there. Sounds like you guys are getting surcharged to death!
Unreal - Homeowners has gone from $178 to $4877 per year - good news is I'm outta here the end of the year as my contract is up, Arizona here I come.
Posted by Vin on :
Good idea. I hear that more 2005 surcharges for Citizens are coming soon. Run for AZ! Don't look back.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
QUOTE]Unreal - Homeowners has gone from $178 to $4877 per year - good news is I'm outta here the end of the year as my contract is up, Arizona here I come. [/QB][/QUOTE]
I live in Phoenix, I own a 4000 square ft house in a great area. Pool, basement. My insurance is about 1K per year. Taxes are under 3K. I won't even tell you what I paid for this castle.
Arizona is the best !
Posted by Vin on :
Sounds like a delay...Ruf's having computer problems.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
I live in Phoenix, I own a 4000 square ft house in a great area. Pool, basement. My insurance is about 1K per year. Taxes are under 3K. I won't even tell you what I paid for this castle.
Arizona is the best ! [/QB]
Sweet - I bought near Sedona a few months ago - can't wait to move.
Posted by lostone on :
so how much does a 4000 sq ft home costs around phoenix? if i get lucky with these pennies at the end of the year, i may get one.. =) i doubt it tho.. heh
Posted by Vin on :
Conference call in 20 minutes on an 800 number????
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I am in the room now and will transcribe as best I can if you want
That would be great...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, so far this is a total circus
Posted by SYGY on :
sounds good get that 800# UP!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Rufus says his cable is down. They are trying to setup some kind of call through a speaker phone or something. Posted by unclerudy on :
Stupid 250 person limit on the rooms... Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
They are trying to set up a conference call with Rufus via someone with a speaker phone and mic to get it into the room - does not sound good at this point.
Posted by milliam on :
Well, I was in the paltalk room, but I got booted for some reason! I was just sitting there for about an hour waiting for Rufus. Oh well, I guess the 800# would be better.
Posted by 10of13 on :
These things have been screwed up every time!
Posted by milliam on :
Yeah, pretty stupid of these guys. They never have their ducks in a row for this. I'm talking about the Paltalk guys. I think they end up making Rufus look bad because the talk is always so disorganised.
Posted by Vin on :
Not going well so far...this has all the makings of a falling PPS tomorrow!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, actually its not their fault. They expected Rufus to be logged in and he cant.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Not going well so far...this has all the makings of a falling PPS tomorrow!
Paltalk's falt...IMO
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Well, actually its not their fault. They expected Rufus to be logged in and he cant.
No we are blaiming Paltalk... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Well, actually its not their fault. They expected Rufus to be logged in and he cant.
No we are blaiming Paltalk...
Whatever you say lady!! Posted by SYGY on :
no # yet?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Mr. Cat says; Whatever you say lady!!
smart man!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
I blame 10 - she brokeded it
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
They either froze text in the chatroom or i got hung up. I was having some bad lag issues so i think it could be the latter. Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: I blame 10 - she brokeded it
I didn't brokeded nothin'... and...If I did..I would blame paltalk!
Posted by betting babe on :
i cant get in Posted by lostone on :
has it started yet?
Posted by VoodooNola on :
not yet
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Try Traders corner live 3
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i cant get in
See..BB can't get in and Cat got disconnceted...and Rufas will look like an idiot... Paltalk Sucks!~
Posted by mathis on :
rufus will not be joining chat but on the phone
Posted by betting babe on :
i dont see TC3! theres only one and its full and wont let me in.
this is stupid, it only gives limited info to privileged people.
of course i didnt mind when i was one of em.
Posted by Danny_K on :
i lost power. now i cant get back in.. I was gonna record and host the files too for everyone arghhh...
Posted by SYGY on :
an actual conference call would clear it up BIG TIME!
Posted by betting babe on :
im gonna join the TanClub room instead Posted by unclerudy on :
Can anyone start a new channel that mirrors the first one? That might be helpful if possible.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Do a search for Traders Corner Live 3 - there are 15 people in it now
Posted by lostone on :
has it started yet?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
my audio crapped out...what luck
Posted by mathis on :
nope has not started yet
Posted by mathis on :
someone is trying to get in touch with rufus..no go yet
Posted by betting babe on :
my internet went down. what the #%$$^Z%&^
cant find room3
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
use the lil search window
Traders Corner live 3
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
You know, i was thinking. One feasible way for them to legally set the price to $15 per share would be for them to do an insane reverse stock split in order to bring the o/s way down and pump the company's stock value way up.
Anyone see this as a possibility?
Posted by portman on :
heh, and me with a good speaker phone and noise cancelling mic Call me rufus!
Posted by milliam on :
Absolut...whatever! This has been gone over several times. I won't bother again.
Posted by VoodooNola on :
Ben wants in also in 10 minutes
Posted by mathis on :
apparently Ben will be joining also
Posted by milliam on :
I don't think that's a good thing. Ben and Rufus usually try to talk over each other. I'd rather it only be Rufus...but what do I matter?
Posted by dog on :
I'm in... and he hasn't called in... Rufus is a no show so far
Posted by dog on :
Any questions for Rufus?
Posted by Danny_K on :
hey I GOT IN!!!!!!!
add me to your yahoo and ill dub the audio in...
ATLhellrotM3 hurry
gonna try setting it up
Posted by betting babe on :
yeah can we have sound in the other friggin room?
Posted by dog on :
Anyone on Ventrilo?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
la la la... no Rufas to be found.... oh wait here he maybe?
Posted by dog on :
I could set up a spot on Ventrilo.. and everyone could hear...download Ventrilo
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This Paltalk thing just might be starting... Fianlly!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
so are you making a yahoo room or something?
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Absolut...whatever! This has been gone over several times. I won't bother again.
Like, OMGOSH! I'm SO SORRY! I haven't had a chance to catch up on the last 10,000 posts, so I missed that discussion.
Mea Culpa
Posted by dog on :
I'm setting up a group on "Ventrilo" download and I will give connection
Posted by unclerudy on :
Spam the Vent info dude...
Posted by betting babe on :
hes working on it, yeah it works just IM him
Posted by milliam on :
Is Rufus there yet???
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Spam the Vent info dude...
I think my WoW nerdiness is showing right now...
Posted by Vin on :
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CALL HIM!
Posted by dog on :
Ventrilo settings:
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Posted by SYGY on :
nothing yet!
Posted by dog on :
Ventrilo room on... use settings I listed
Posted by Vin on :
Rufus is IN THE HOUSE!!!!
Posted by mathis on :
here we go
Posted by dog on :
I have him streaming on "ventrilo" Use settings above
Posted by Vin on :
Rufus has an attorney with him
Posted by dog on :
His attorney is on with him.
Use group A on ventrilo room
Posted by GreenDay on :
Unable to download ventrilo - please post updates...
Posted by dog on :
Ventrilo settings:
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Posted by dog on :
who is onashkarn? Can you hear ok?
Posted by unclerudy on :
Thats me... I can hear ok...
Posted by betting babe on :
Q: can u verify with links the proof of the bond etc...
A: u can if u have the authority to get into euroclear. bloomberg brokerage can.
when is the 10K coming?
its all gonna be done in one swift transaction. we had to get a symbol first... nasdaq and cusips we had some problems w at first,... but there is going to be a process w **C .. that will happen tomorrow... so that all the shares hit at the same time
Posted by dog on :
BB download ventrilo... use the settings so you can hear
Posted by betting babe on :
Q: what is the status of AISS?
is it funded does it have contracts --------------------
...rufus is criticizing the person who asked the question
man rufie is hostile tonite he wants people's names who are asking questions, not just screen names
...i never heard the answer to this!
Posted by milliam on :
Dog, I can kind of hear, but its not the best. Something I did wrong? Just the nature of the beast?
Thanks though!
Posted by GreenDay on :
Thanks BB!! keep it comin' please
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
i had to bail out of paltalk....too much traffic and crashed my yahoo! Posted by dog on :
Nature of beast...their phone sux
Posted by Vin on :
"If you're in it for profit-making, I don't want you as a shareholder". Per Rufus
Posted by betting babe on :
Q Mr. Harris, what can you say to the people that are losing confidence because some deadlines have not been met? Most were expecting a 10K last week. And once shares are transfered will PPS be reset as well??
A muffled, something about take ur shares and go... look at the state of the market. (summary: tuff chit)
Posted by betting babe on :
Q you are the CEO and u have no rite to ask the name of the posters. period.
A well ..i can do what im gonna do if you dont feel that way dont ask the dam question
atty seems to threaten legal stuff in the bkgrnd here
Posted by Vin on :
Not a happy conversation. This guy asking the questions is an idiot. Stupid, stupid, stupid...
Posted by dog on :
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Posted by milliam on :
As usual...the just make Rufus look bad!
Posted by lostone on :
can't seem to log on using ventrilo, user/passw?
Posted by dog on :
use settings:
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Posted by betting babe on :
...the next step in the process is we work with DTC and what their timeframe is we dont know.
that timeframe once we get all the certificate recalls will take place
...usually 1-3 days
shareholders that are in for the longhaul... just sit tite shareholders that have been here long since the start of the company are happy just to be a part of the transaction
...at no point were (delays) due to the company theyre due to transactions
were done. were all done... we move forward at the pace of the 3 federal systems. it aint the same thing as u just puttin out the 10k
the auditor has to contact the SEC...
(basically theyre saying theyre following the rules of the fed regulatory boards and they cant predict dates)
they ask that u hang on for the long haul
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I like the Lawyer... he's smart too.
Posted by betting babe on :
JJSeabrook: Do you have $500,000,000.00 in the bank after cashing in the bond? You said the bond had been cashed in. How much cash is in the bank out of that $500,000,000.00 right now, and if it's less than that, where did the cash go?
rufus laffs. no response to that question, he says.
yeah, he says something about having credit.
Posted by unclerudy on :
Someone should ask if they are going to put out a PR tomorrow.
Posted by Vin on :
He wouldn't comment on cash but said he had "credit". WHAT????
Posted by unclerudy on :
Everyone should have their shares before the reset.
Posted by betting babe on :
will trading be stopped long enough for all shareholders to be able to trade when the trading is resumed?
DTC is the one that is responsible for that. its taken care of in an electronic format.
(i got distracted dropped the ball a sec sry)
Posted by betting babe on :
we did a euroclear transaction and have arranged for the hypothication of that interest...
????????????? i have no idea what that means did i hear it rite?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: will trading be stopped long enough for all shareholders to be able to trade when the trading is resumed?
DTC is the one that is responsible for that. its taken care of in an electronic format.
(i got distracted dropped the ball a sec sry)
Babe, not following here; SEC can "suspend"; NASD/NASDAQ can "halt" DTC not involved....
Posted by unclerudy on :
He said that it was an assumption that they bought the bond... I think...
Posted by Danny_K on :
i can hold more in my yahoo room.. seems to work just fine
ATLhellrotM3 add me if ya want
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
He just cleared up Grenelefe golf course! at least for me. Posted by betting babe on :
greenleaf...
with a bankruptcy.. the temporary receiver told us to pay the cash into the acct that she was writing the checks off of instead of an escrow acct. we refused to deposit the million dollars into that acct...
so thats why we didnt do the deal
(tons of what he said is missing in there not sure it was significant)
Posted by dog on :
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Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: greenleaf...
with a bankruptcy.. the temporary receiver told us to pay the cash into the acct that she was writing the checks off of instead of an escrow acct. we refused to deposit the million dollars into that acct...
so thats why we didnt do the deal
(tons of what he said is missing in there not sure it was significant)
The account was at a negative 400K, and didn't want to place the money into the account.
Posted by betting babe on :
these are the same people that were mixed up with fhal when it came to us. the timber situation...
dont sell ur shares, dont get crazy, cuz ur gonna lose a lotta money.
he's talking re: the false info posted.
Posted by milliam on :
Glad he has his lawyer there. He should have done this everytime!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Lawyer is AWSOME!!! Just caught Rufas in a Faux Pa... Posted by fryyguyy on :
The lawyer is awesome!!!!!
Posted by betting babe on :
what are u gonna use ur bonds for?
......sry i zoned out its just blah blah blah
exactly, lawyer speak.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Hey Dog thanks for setting this up. So who's confidence is rising a show of hands.
Posted by milliam on :
I think he started with no comment. I too zoned out after that.
Posted by mathis on :
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE 10K up to cpa
Posted by dog on :
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Posted by milliam on :
I'm liking it more. They sound like they know what they are doing. I don't hear much BS.
Posted by unclerudy on :
When are going to see the 10K...
It is in the hands of the CPA, when they have it, things are coming in FHAL that wasn't there before, dealing with profits.
Posted by Danny_K on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Hey Dog thanks for setting this up. So who's confidence is rising a show of hands.
not mine
Posted by betting babe on :
10k comes when it comes.
lawyer: this is not an interrogation as to what is in our bank account
they arent answering questions that you couldnt even ask a regulatory company
Posted by milliam on :
Could we just keep asking the same question until we get the answer we're looking for?
This thing stinks!!!! They need to stop going on Paltalk!
Posted by unclerudy on :
Might not need to halt... LOL from Rufas...
Posted by milliam on :
I think the lawyer should do the interview instead of Rufus and Ben!
Posted by betting babe on :
Q are we still going ot have a halt? what SEC code warrants it?
basically for this time, the way were looking at it, we might not need the halt... before fhal can trade again it needs to turn in its certs we may be completed in that transaction before...
we arent answering questions not based on fact
blah blah.. go look it up. who got what were supposed to look up???
Posted by unclerudy on :
What about the 368? Ask about that one...
Posted by dog on :
Yes... they can't answer specifics on most of these questions... have to wait for the filings
Posted by milliam on :
I think we're supposed to look up the SEC code.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Maurice Bennete is the Lawyer on the phone. He is part of a team.
Posted by betting babe on :
what is lawyers name? what is auditors name?
A: it is not confidential, instead of doing all these individual filings you do it all in your 10K
thats the reason we discussed halting the trading. all the info will come out at once
maurice pennico? bennico? whats the lawyers name?
Posted by unclerudy on :
Maurice Bennette (sp?) is the lawyer
Posted by dog on :
State your questions and I will type in
Posted by unclerudy on :
Can you ask about the status of the UCC promisory notes, and the general feeling that they are junk please.
Posted by dog on :
Type out a good question..if it has not been addressed...I will copy in
Posted by betting babe on :
its like borrowing money to get ur house. u take an asset and you hypothicate it.
(explaining bond)
man i missed the gyst of that. sry.
they're so muffled on their phones.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
6.62 Million shorts reported now.
Posted by betting babe on :
when the pps resets to $15 why wont the price fall when most will sell?
concerned about the statement that 500mil $ bond was cashed in
A: were gonna put the factual information out, the gov't contract and the values of those contracts. itll all be itemized. in our statements thatll be factual statements
you got the shorters, you got blah blah.. were stronger than any other company when they started. (compares self to goog when they started)
Posted by unclerudy on :
16.6M official shorts
Posted by atomictraders on :
I'm not in the interview. Can someone ask them who the auditor is? Is it one of the big four accounting firms? PriceWaterHouse, Ernst Young, KPMG, etc. Who is it?
Posted by dog on :
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Posted by milliam on :
Stronger than Google??? Is that what Ben just said?
Posted by betting babe on :
ATOMIC: they wont release name of auditor til they release it in the 10K was already asked.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Stronger than Google??? Is that what Ben just said?
Thats what i thought i heard
Posted by milliam on :
I'm holding until $300 Posted by betting babe on :
yup, goog when they started.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Basically,
They are finished with everything and are waiting on the various FED. agancies to get their paper work done.
Posted by unclerudy on :
Calling all of the creditor as the "RICO RING" I think he just said.
Posted by milliam on :
The audio is pretty good now. Fine.
Thanks again!
Posted by unclerudy on :
What is the status of the UCC bonds? And what is your feelings that most people consider them junk?
Posted by betting babe on :
theyre crackin themselves up. SO not taking this seriously.
and i feel slightly like were being dismissed in our concerns.
theyre being very holier than thou here IMO.
Posted by dog on :
Thank you Mr. Harris for showing up at PalTalk. I have bought the crap out of CSHD. What is the dollar value of booked assets in the 10K? What is the status of VEZD bond? What is the timeline and/or sequence for 10K, SB-4, halt, and PRs to happen? What is the total no. of authorized CSHD common shares? What is the status of FHAL audit?
Posted by dog on :
answer: move on next question
Posted by betting babe on :
2 minutes left.
heres TXprincess:
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
800 Million in assets is just the begining. WOW!
Posted by milliam on :
She didn't send him flowers did she?
Posted by betting babe on :
. okeeeee
Posted by fryyguyy on :
BB,
I think they are just tired of the same old questions and bet they can't wait to get everything out in the open to screw certain people.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Wow that was incredible... it is over.
Posted by betting babe on :
maybe fry.
so show tolerance. there were no bashers in there.
it just shows their ineffective communication thus far.
it should concern them, investors today are future investors with friends.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They are definitely tired of the same old questions but they handeled them and some new ones about some old topics.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
True,
But you have got to love the accent. I also think their tolerances from the 1,000s of phone calls and questions has lowered dramatically.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I was very satified with the clarification given on Grenelefe Golf Course and BBAN conflicts.
Posted by dog on :
There is no way we can get specifics on the finances... the 10K has to tell it all.
They sounded confident and relaxed... the best use of the interview was their attitude and candor...
they sounded good... but reserved... he can't say anything specific...
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I mean it takes all of my tolerances to read this board everyday
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Dog,
Would't you be relaxed waiting to become multi millionaires.
Posted by dog on :
I'm not that relaxed...
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I was very satified with the clarification given on Grenelefe Golf Course and BBAN conflicts.
agreed
Posted by dog on :
Yes satisfied on that answer..... the most direct answer in the interview
Posted by mathis on :
the question going on now is 500 million in cash or credit?
Posted by betting babe on :
JUST AN FYI: MY TRANSCRIPTION PROB WAS SLIGHTLY INACCURATE THIS EVENING DUE TO MUFFLEY SOUND.
~BB
Posted by dog on :
I didn't get the idea that it was in cash
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, nothing really came out of that interview to speak of but for me i needed to hear their confidence again. They had plenty of that.
I think tomorrow morning could be awkward though........
Posted by cool AZ on :
Thanks BB and all ... good information!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
great job BB thanks.
Posted by Danny_K on :
IM gonna do a replay if anyone is interested in yahoo chat, here in a min. While the audio is uploading to my server..
anyone interested? if not, im done Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think I understood a while back that they were borrowing against a giant bond. I heard him when he said they converted it to cash, but if I converted the equity in my house to cash. I would in effect be borrowing it. right?
Posted by luvforever on :
WOHOO..WE GONNA ALL BE HAPPY?!!!!!!! i'M IN THIS FOR A LOONG TIME ME THINKS HEHE TIA EVERYONE...
Posted by 4Given on :
taxback, somewhere on this thread, via interview I believe, rufy said they cashed in 500 mil in euro bonds.
Posted by luvforever on :
Sorry for yelling....
Posted by betting babe on :
i think thats what i heard... borrowing against equity.
was there anything hinted that something will be going on tomorrow...?
Posted by fryyguyy on :
This is from HSM on the bond.
About the $500m loan
God darn it the people at paltalk piss me off.
They don't know the slightest thing about finances. This is what has happened.
They had $500m which they used to buy a bond with that pays 13% annually. Instead of cashing the bond in forfeiting the $500m, they instead use it as collateral to borrow cash at a lower rate. They use this cash to fund the sudsidaries. People can;t get this through their darn heads.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They said they were waiting on the DTC for the next move in the total transaction. Originally they were told it could take three days. They said tonight it might take longer.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: This is from HSM on the bond.
About the $500m loan
God darn it the people at paltalk piss me off.
They don't know the slightest thing about finances. This is what has happened.
They had $500m which they used to buy a bond with that pays 13% annually. Instead of cashing the bond in forfeiting the $500m, they instead use it as collateral to borrow cash at a lower rate. They use this cash to fund the sudsidaries. People can;t get this through their darn heads.
Agreed.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Ihub like usual is turning into a PPV event. Worth the price of admission though.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: They said they were waiting on the DTC for the next move in the total transaction. Originally they were told it could take three days. They said tonight it might take longer.
Waiting for DTC.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Ihub like usual is turning into a PPV event. Worth the price of admission though.
No kidding
Posted by RyanPBF on :
One thing I know is that I am in this until completion. Unless I see this totally fall apart. At times I'll get frustrated wishing the pps was going up everyday. I am already up so I can afford to watch this for now. And what about the short position I know someone posted a number of 16million shorts? For arguments sake what could that do to the pps if this resets at 15 and they are forced to cover. I can't imagine what the pps will go to.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It will skyrocket when the reported 6 million have to cover alone. The other ten million unreported estimation will make it 6 or 7 times book value easy.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
If you throw PR's new contracts, Additional assets on their books. This is going to be a huge cash cow for us all.
I just added a second set of vice grips to my slips. Feeling very good at this point. Should be more movement tomorrow, I think PalTalkers are trying to scare themselves out of their shares, and doing a good job of it.
GLTA TB
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: This is from HSM on the bond.
About the $500m loan
God darn it the people at paltalk piss me off.
They don't know the slightest thing about finances. This is what has happened.
They had $500m which they used to buy a bond with that pays 13% annually. Instead of cashing the bond in forfeiting the $500m, they instead use it as collateral to borrow cash at a lower rate. They use this cash to fund the sudsidaries. People can;t get this through their darn heads.
OMG someone gets it! Man I was dieing in the room!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah I hate being in there without a Mic and alot of people. You just type and type to the brick wall. When all you want to do is yell at the fools.
One guy quoted them saying, "They might not need to halt the stock." and then somehow translated it into "So they are saying the price isn't going to be reset."
they clearly said the price will be reset, and that they might not need to halt if the DTC takes a long time.
Posted by portman on :
A couple of things...A good many of the questions they were asked they cannot answer. Some they did anyway...CEOs just do that I have seen...sometimes they need collared
I am happier that they did not cash the bond than I would be with the cash in hand.
Posted by portman on :
Did my mic sound ok tax?
I think I even commented on that one.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
That was a good interview and should provide confidence to the shareholders. The paltalk people are idiots though.
Anyway I'm more confident now. No lawyer would their client state some of the things that those two talked about tonight. This is legitimate, it's just going to take some time to come to fruition. I'm holding my shares.
Posted by portman on :
The harping on the bond was unbelievable. It is like these people have never been in the room (physically) with a CEO. YES they are cocky...and YES they say the stupidest things sometimes. The things I have heard CEOs say are incredible.
They have NO idea what it is to wait for something to clear. I have PE that will finally in the next week clear into stock. It's a year old but I have been in true flux on it for six months. Now I have to make a choice...all unrestricted...all restricted +25% more free ( restricted 1 year or move to new market) or a mix of the two. Oh, and I forgot...$25/month is free pizza for life! (UPZS). Sorry for celebrating too much...please do not let the zebra penalize me.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well I will purchase a few more shares tomorrow!! I can't wait for $15 or more.
Posted by portman on :
MMM...like I said...I have cleared funds and the bonus check in the account. If this dips on a few sellers I will be very happy to help push it back up.
Posted by dog on :
I agree... they are legitimate in my mind.... HOWEVER, it could still fall apart last minute... They could run into some financial obstacles that would be difficult to navigate easily and decide that this is not the right shell company to emerge from.
They also SMELL BLOOD in my opinion, based on the attitude they expressed in the interview. I do not doubt that they want to get this done.. the question is CAN/IF they get this done.
Good explanation on the bond, this is a holdings company.... thay manipulate finance adeptly and legally... they borrowed against the bond with cash from Europe... possibly SuisseBank, where the bond is held.
I wish we could have asked more questions about the subsidiary companies of CSHD, that is where a good portion of the asset base comes from, and where the future contracts will derive.
Posted by portman on :
They did acknowledge more issues than were disclosed by FHAL initially. Contracts and other items. Really what has happened is people who were not pursuing collection are now doing so based on anticipating deeper pockets.
You have to expect this to some degree. Working through that is likely adding time. Something not disclosed that is too bad to overcome is our only true risk right now...you are right, they smell blood and that was clear.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
To me Dog it doesn't seem that they can back out now. Fhal is no more. The symbol changed. Everything in delaware is mergerd into one company. Rufus said weeks ago also that it was a done deal and couldn't back out of it now if they wanted to.
Posted by dog on :
Til I have cash in my hands from this stock... it is not a done deal! Posted by RyanPBF on :
I agree. Just saying what they've said.
Posted by portman on :
Dog, more stars for you. Some guy selling soup said to do that.
Posted by dog on :
Take a rest guys... tomorrow's another long day of possibly nuthin... I'm gonna finish cleaning up the house before the cleaning service comes tomorrow (why I don't know).
Champagne wishes and caviar dreams!
P.S. Sorry about the audio quality... I threw it together in less than a minute... if there is another interview.. I'll have it hooked up in the studio and will stream it with better quality.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Dog thanks again for putting that up on ventrilo.
Newtomarket excellent job you handled yourself very well. Goodnight and glta.
Posted by dog on :
There was more to learn from their tone and candor, than the diction...
Nite..
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I freed up 20K to buy more shares tomorrow. This is the real deal.
Posted by SherriT on :
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the posts about the interview, and everything else going on over the last few days. My 4 year old is looking for a swimming pool, and I sure hope Rufus is true to his word - we'll all be sipping cool ones! GLTA!
Posted by betting babe on :
uncle smelly, you went from wanting to sell to a hefty investment in a matter of 48 hours.
what was the turning point for you, and how long do you expect to wait it out?
~BB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Listening to the interview again. Someone posted a 5MB MP3 of the entire interview that is very good. It is allowing me to go through each question in detail. Anyone know a good transcriptionist?
They really did do a great job addressing good questions and blowing off dumb or repeated questions.
Wish I had another 20K for this. TB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah that was a big tune change for US.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Thanks guys...I knew I could step away...and count on a detailed report of everything! We found an extra 300k that we were overbilled this year...so my day was pretty hectic after about one. I'm glad to come back and see what looks to be a bunch of very positive news.
Does anyone have a link to an MP3 of that interview? I'd love to be able to hear the tone?
Posted by JohnDoe on :
Guys when was the interview?Tonight on paltalk?...was it recorded..anyone know where i can get the interview and listen?
thanks
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Someone on Paltalk posted a link to a recording... I bet it shows on Traders-Corner sooner or later.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: uncle smelly, you went from wanting to sell to a hefty investment in a matter of 48 hours.
what was the turning point for you, and how long do you expect to wait it out?
~BB
The turning point for me was when I saw that the shares had changed in my account - well at least the CUSIP #. The interview tonight as well. There is no way in hell a lawyer would let them say the things they unless it is coming to fruition. The SEC would have pulled the plug on this, instead I'm seeing progress.
I believe this is going to happen now, and I'd rather be in with 25K shares than 5K shares.
Posted by betting babe on :
thx uncle Posted by TaxBack04 on :
True US that the Lawyer was a nice touch. I am feeling much better. Posted by SYGY on :
back from meeting what happened???
Posted by betting babe on :
...
[ August 11, 2006, 00:29: Message edited by: betting babe ]
Posted by SYGY on :
ps- oddly, someone commented that the guy didnt have a good demeanor cuz he wasnt a 'trial lawyer' but yes, indeed, he is a "former prosecutor-trial lawyer ie criminal attorney"
ruhroh.
[ August 11, 2006, 00:39: Message edited by: betting babe ]
Posted by SYGY on :
your on fire BB!
Posted by SYGY on :
half ways trough interview!!very impressed to say the least!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: OH MY GAWD I GOT IT!
the lawyer, the connection to the American Idol Brittenum brothers...
has anyone looked up the attorney Maurice Bennett? they were in atlanta rite?
ps- oddly, someone commented that the guy didnt have a good demeanor cuz he wasnt a 'trial lawyer' but yes, indeed, he is a "former prosecutor-trial lawyer ie criminal attorney"
ruhroh.
LOL..but they also claim to be good at mergers and acqusitions...
that loud clapping is BB spanking someone, shes kind of a weirdo. Posted by SYGY on :
16.6 million shorts !!!on the report!!! THIS IS GONNA BE HUGE DAMN IT!!!i'm so glad i bought more today!!!!!!LOVE THIS INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by betting babe on :
lol danny!
Posted by Danny_K on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: lol danny!
YOU said it, not me..
night all.. im gonna be out most of the day. just gonna be checking in on my phone from time to time.
Posted by SYGY on :
next they say! 16.6 million might only be 1 third of shorts!!! because there official report usually only show's less then actual!!WOW !!!!this is amazing we are in f-en good shape here board!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Thanks again SYGY for the MP3!
Just a few worthless observations that made me chuckle:
25:30 - The lawyer(high profile lawyer no less) steps up and corrects Rufus regarding his telling the shareholders to buy
33:58 - The first mention of a team of lawyers, they mentioned SEC specialists and few others
38:40 - Compared themselves to GOOG, and sounded like they actually believed it...
41:10 - Started cracking up laughing when they were asked why they went on Paltalk(they were asked) rather than releasing PR's
Just a few things that really aren't EARTH SHATTERING, but stood out as interesting none the less...
Night all!
Posted by betting babe on :
...perhaps they were laughing at us, not with us, eh CRab?
like, omg you gotta join me on this call listen to all these panicked people with their penny stocks asking nonsense questions...
(while he's making like billion dollar deals)
hrm?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah it's a possibility i suppose...
but that scenario doesn't make us all a lot of money
[ August 11, 2006, 01:38: Message edited by: usedtobeaCRab ]
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So I'm looking at buying more shares in the morning... Any guesses to a good buyin point??? btw I listened to the interview great stuff! Glad I'm in this!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
AWSOME THATS ALL I GOTTA SAY!!!!! I WAN"T TO BUY THE CRAP OUT OF THIS STOCK NOW!!!!!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
HELL I MIGHT JUST MORTGAGE MY HOUSE!!!!LOL!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
hell i could live in my RV!!hum????!!!!maybe i'll sell my house!!! and my sister tooo!!!
Posted by betting babe on :
CRab, i meant that on the contrary...
he's simply indulging us at this level knowing it is going to $$$$$$$
Posted by SYGY on :
Rufus Harris:
“When you are dealing with assets of this size and volumes of this size, you go through a whole new level of due diligence, it isn’t the same thing as just turning in a 10-k, your auditor has to contact the SEC AND HAVE THE ASSET BONDED ENTIRELY….”
“At the time of the halt of the trading, there will be SEC filings, and then the reset is official, that is when the market it reset, anyone who tells you that you can’t reset the price, they are lying to you”
“All JV agreements will be attached to the actual filings, so you will have that information in the filings. Ownership, shares… all that will be there…”
“Everybody will have their shares, before the reset. DTC is responsible for that. It’s in violation of regulations if it starts trading, and only certain shareholders have their shares.”
“The filings will show the availability of the cash that is facilitated from the line of credit. And this will be PRESS RELEASED SOON. We will have our own press release that will come along with the financial filings.”
“We are an asset holding company, the bond was brought in the company, as an investment, to arrange a hypothecation to support a venture…”
Ben Stanley:
“at this time we are trying to re-establish a market price, and we are trying to do it by OUR FILINGS….”
The Attorney:
“We are simply following the rules and regulations of the SEC the NASDAQ, and Federal Regulatory force… ”
“WE ARE NOT ANSWERING ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FACTUAL, WHAT WAS IMPLICATED HERE WAS NOT AN ASSUMPTION
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: Fhal or Die trying In reply to: Fhal or Die trying who wrote msg# 37432 Date:8/10/2006 11:45:12 PM Post #of 37617
One more point.
The bashers will be here in full force from this point out. Here is the reason why: 16.6M*15= You are fired ($249M) or s 16.6M + basher fees=(19M) and shareholders are screwed.
For the slow people. (Bashers) All the current shareholders that don’t focus on the wrong issues will make money on the short squeeze. Now if another 300% isn’t enough to wait for the 10K. GLTY
Posted by cassity on :
I think Ben Stanley should refrain from any public speaking!!! HOLY SHEET! This sounds great though. GOODNIGHT!
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: thehavenots In reply to: some_extra_dough who wrote msg# 37424 Date:8/10/2006 11:38:36 PM Post #of 37617
If you listen to the other interviews, Rufus talks about how much money people have in bonds, billions, in these large bonds, and they want to use them for investing. This is a complicated way to make a lot of money. The people who are posting the bonds into CVSU will probably be receiving stock in CVSU, stock in the JV's as well as backing rights from the bond as well, meaning that, it is a collateralized arrangement, there will probably be a time, when the owners of the bond will no longer have that collateral because the stock will be worth so much and the bonds will be liquidated or, I don't know, these securitization deals are very complicated, do you know how complicated finance has become? Asset-backed securitization is the most popular way of financing now a days, it's the new trend on Wall-Street, it's what I've been saying all along, these guys are smart, and this stock will probably be worth a lot of money
Posted by cassity on :
I am so GLAD THAT THEY DID THIS! I have been completely assured in this interview. I'm holdin tight! I can't believe more people weren't more excited about this. HUGE HUGE HUGE! Ben's, kind of a TaRD though. I've been LMAO listening. -Cassity
Posted by cassity on :
DAMN, THE PIECES ARE FALLING INTO PLACE!!!!! I think I'm going to buy another 10k tomorrow! YEAAAAAAAAAAA
Posted by cassity on :
BEN SHOULD NOT TALK, stop BEN, STOPPPPPPPP. I think he might be speaking in EBONIKS!
Posted by SYGY on :
all good!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: Cogitozen In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 37351 Date:8/10/2006 10:52:49 PM Post #of 37628
I'm a shareholder and even I was laughing with them. Some of the questions ppl asked were ridiculous. I'm amazed at how understanding and upfront and forth coming Rufus and Ben have been from day one.
Personally I think they came across as very confident - a sign to me that they know what they have in their hands. If I was in their position, I'd probably wouldn't even bother with the shareholders. These guys have done a great job. Many props to them for enduring all the ridiculous questions over and over day after day night after night.
Posted by SYGY on :
Been reading this board for awhile and over on IHUB but never felt the need to post until now...kind of new to this so this may be obvious...but what happens if Rufus et al have most of the certs in the CSHD vault and the MM's are still short? Price rises but not enough to go around...how does this scenario end? Hopefully, with rufus declaring victory and a 1000 buck share price or do they cut some kind of deal? TIA
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
This morning: Conversion Solutions' website homepage (CVSU.us) shows name to be Conversion Solutions Holding Corp where it said Fronthaul Corp yesterday. However it still shows FHAL ticker symbol on stock market graphics and CSHC in text of site's directory.....Looks like their in process of changing their website.....
Posted by portman on :
Good Morning. This should be an interesting day to follow folks.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Will this be the day or another day of waiting?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Good morning - From the sounds of the call last night I would not be suprised to see a PR today or Monday.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Good morning - From the sounds of the call last night I would not be suprised to see a PR today or Monday.
Personally, i would be surprised to see a PR today. Im leaning more on the idea of one Monday. IMO
Posted by portman on :
It seems to me all is in the hands of the SEC and Accountants. Rufus is waiting just as we are.
There was no reason for them to indulge us last night. I think they were confident and a bit giddy perhaps with relief this is almost done and most of the hard stuff is behind them. Just my read on it.
I am looking more mid week next week for anything.
Posted by cool AZ on :
timlaniryankristin, Rufus said they would not be selling any shares per the reporting of paltalk interview. Therefore, the only shares available are very few considering the buyback that has cut the float to approximately 23mil shares. Rufus says he knows old CVSU shareholders who can account for most of the float ... can you imagine the short squeeze coming?
Good Morning All!
Posted by dog on :
Everyone always sounds so confident in the AM! I tend to dwindle a little in the afternoon as my stock is still locked up by the DTC.
Good morning all!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Will this be the day or another day of waiting?
the dtc has given the brokerages until 8/14 to resolve share conversions. This will be a day of waiting for your pre cshd shares. You can buy and sell cshd shares outside of your other ones if your broker allows it, but many dont.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Everyone always sounds so confident in the AM! I tend to dwindle a little in the afternoon as my stock is still locked up by the DTC.
Good morning all!
Im pretty confident today i guess.
Last night was a refresher for me. I had totally intended to start depleting my position today if a) We heard nothing from CVSU and b) i was able to sell over the phone. It was planned as a slow depletion in hopes that news came out in time to stop me. Posted by dog on :
Man.. if we all hold on to our shares with a death grip...the shorties will spontaneously burn in flames! Man this is gonna get investigated at the end.. don't you think?
Posted by dog on :
This is the worst coffee ever... blecch
Posted by dog on :
So if there is no halt..or reset.. as it looks like there "doesn't need to be - Rufus". we get to watch this thing ride all the way up? Do you think we will still be trading arouond a dollar into next week?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Will this be the day or another day of waiting?
the dtc has given the brokerages until 8/14 to resolve share conversions. This will be a day of waiting for your pre cshd shares. You can buy and sell cshd shares outside of your other ones if your broker allows it, but many dont.
I put a buy in for a small amount of CSHD through S.Trade today. If it's filled I'll let you know.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Man.. if we all hold on to our shares with a death grip...the shorties will spontaneously burn in flames! Man this is gonna get investigated at the end.. don't you think?
Imagine...if you will. Shorties clammering to cover at $2.00, $3.00, $5.00, $7.00, $10.00, $15.00, $20.00, ??? They would be doing anything they could to get out of their positions.
It would be like the wild price run up seen in WALLSTREET. Posted by cool AZ on :
Ya Dog, we get to ride it up with a rather huge gap that doesn't need to get filled, so to speak!
Posted by dog on :
SEC gonna be watchin this like a hawk... I think they already are... that's why it's taking time.
HOLD ON TIGHT EVERYBODY!
It isn't often you got the uber-money men by the short and curlies!
Posted by DEN on :
morning all,,,anyone else on scottrade,,,,,,are youre cshd shares showing in your account yet...im still showing FHAL#,,AND NO VALUE....just checking ,,my broker isnt helping out much....thanks for reply
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Man.. if we all hold on to our shares with a death grip...the shorties will spontaneously burn in flames! Man this is gonna get investigated at the end.. don't you think?
Imagine...if you will. Shorties clammering to cover at $2.00, $3.00, $5.00, $7.00, $10.00, $15.00, $20.00, ??? They would be doing anything they could to get out of their positions.
It would be like the wild price run up seen in WALLSTREET.
Cool thought!!!! It will never happen...
The second this thing opens at 15.00 it is commin down....Everybody and there brother in law are gunna be dumping for huge gains....If you could get everyone to hold, you would see a short squeeze from hell... But greed will help the MM's cover IMO..
good morning!!
Posted by dog on :
Scottrade = FHAL#
Yet someohow the value of this stock in my portfolio adjusted to the current value of the CSHD stock? Interesting . . they tell me they are not the same stock yet... so why adjust the value then huh?
Posted by dog on :
Yes... but there is not going to be a reset in my opinion.... It will ride up and I think the shareholders will stick in this scenario versus a sudden jump to 15$.
Why would you want to get out if it's rising a buck a minute?
The best thing is NO RESET IMO
Posted by NEL on :
For once Fidelity actually has all shares showing as CSHD ready to trade!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Scottrade = FHAL#
Yet someohow the value of this stock in my portfolio adjusted to the current value of the CSHD stock? Interesting . . they tell me they are not the same stock yet... so why adjust the value then huh?
Etrade was the same way. It wasnt updating during the day yesterday but sometime last night it adjusted to the correct CSHD close.
Posted by NEL on :
I've got my first set of 500 shares set to sell at $13 just in case
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Yes... but there is not going to be a reset in my opinion.... It will ride up and I think the shareholders will stick in this scenario versus a sudden jump to 15$.
Why would you want to get out if it's rising a buck a minute?
The best thing is NO RESET IMO
Yea, thats a good point. I too would rather see it climb steadily than open at $15 and hope it stays there. But, do we really think that will be the plan...and, how many people are going to threaten legal action against Rufus' word that it would open at $15? Touchy subject im guessin
Posted by cool AZ on :
Maumee, I believe just the opposite may happen ... all things considered $15 could only be a flash as the price moves up! Guess we'll see won't we? GLTA!
Posted by NEL on :
Also putting in a buy order for 300 more shares to see if it takes.
Posted by dog on :
I don't think he can be held liable for that... he gave option A B & C, said we are going to do C, but if the SEC won't let it in the end,,, likely not his fault... waste of time and money trying to sue him... only the lawyers will make out
Posted by NEL on :
Just got filled at 1.039
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Yes... but there is not going to be a reset in my opinion....
Morning all... I have listened to the last nights interview four times now, slowly, fast, upside down and backwards. I am highly convinced that there will indeed be a reset, and that price will be $15 like stated in the 8K. Posted by dog on :
Why Tax? I got the idea when Rufus stated.. "there may be no need for a reset"
Posted by SYGY on :
morning!
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
Mine are still showing restricted with no ticker, will this clear after the DTC clears?
Posted by dog on :
If they get their 23 day average price above a dollar.... they may do option A as it would be easier than convincing the MM of an immediate opening value of $15.. but then again, Rufus stated that he could prove the value to the MM's with the 10K, and he had institutions ready for support.
Guess we will know in the next few weeks.
Still holding.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Why would they do option A
That means the price would be reset to the average closing price in the last 20 days, which would be like a $1
So a company that Rufus believes is worth $34 a share, would let it trade at a $1 per share. Doubtful. There would be a massive selloff as well
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Will this be the day or another day of waiting?
the dtc has given the brokerages until 8/14 to resolve share conversions. This will be a day of waiting for your pre cshd shares. You can buy and sell cshd shares outside of your other ones if your broker allows it, but many dont.
I put a buy in for a small amount of CSHD through S.Trade today. If it's filled I'll let you know.
OK...Got filled no problem at 1.03.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by DEN: morning all,,,anyone else on scottrade,,,,,,are youre cshd shares showing in your account yet...im still showing FHAL#,,AND NO VALUE....just checking ,,my broker isnt helping out much....thanks for reply
I'm showing FHAL#, no price, but the $ value seems to change daily = to what the CSHD price is...hope that helps!
Posted by SYGY on :
got a little star beside mine! don't matter got just as many soon on this side!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK this took me a good deal of time to transcribe. (I do not know how transscriptionist do it.) But this is a question from earlier in the interview, with his answer. you tell me if this sounds like there is not going to be a reset.
quote: Moderator: "Next question is aah... when might we expect a $15 dollar reset after this one swift transaction?... and umm what do you see in the future of this stock?"
Harris: "They {uncomprehensible sounds like "tell us"} when the reset is done. At the time of the halt trading, and with the annoucement, this will be Blagh, blagh, blag here's are filing with the SEC, and then the resets official."
I just heard it like 500 times while trying to write it. I am excited AGAIN! Posted by dog on :
OK Tax... I beleive you... I only listened once.
Either way... not selling my shares for less than $15.01!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Why Tax? I got the idea when Rufus stated.. "there may be no need for a reset"
Later in the interview they go on to say that they may not need the halt to reset. Which I took to mean that if all is done before the DTC gets done they could perform the reset over night.
Posted by dog on :
Yer right Tax... I remember now... they did say there may be no need to halt, not that there would not be a reset.. good clarification.
Posted by SYGY on :
are we setting up , for a run up!!! kindda feels like it!!!
Posted by Jo4321 on :
I had hoped something would have happenned with the halt/reset by now. I leave on vacation tommorrow and won't have internet access. Guess I will have to call TDA every morning.
Or maybe I'll just set my GTC Sell order at $15.00 LOL
Jo
Posted by SYGY on :
set half at that and the other at 100$
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning... So the ceo thinks this is better or as good as google? That means he's hoping pps will go off... the radar? MO
Posted by milliam on :
Nice steady climb up happening right now. Maybe a little too steady, but at least we haven't went down any. Much different than the trading days of past. No crazy jump all over the place trades going through. Hopefully a sign for great things to come!
GLTA!
Posted by jasbran on :
$1.25 by EOD
Posted by jasbran on :
Hopefully......
Posted by portman on :
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jasbran 1.25 portman 1.12
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
1.05 - no PR or 1.17 with pr.
Posted by evilmonkey on :
Can anyone post a link with info for the Caracas Group?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
eod = 1.03, volume 1,200,000
Unless of course some massive PR comes out then all bets are off. Posted by ruthie on :
eod= 1.06 but hopefully higher!!
Posted by dog on :
Sandor . . .are you watching?
Posted by cassity on :
Where is BB today? She was making me LMAO last night when I would read her posts, during the interview. Thanks for the effort though.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well, Bud750 is now saying he is out. My "feelings" about him yesterday were just confirmed in my opinion. He is trouble for anyone that have been listening to him. I hope Rufus counters his legal threats and nails him for stock manipulation. At least maybe now he will get out of the picture........
She was all over Maurice (the lawyer), probably knows what brand of boxers he wears... and the size too. She must have some time on her hands . . .plus a little OCD... hehe . . most successful people do.
Posted by dog on :
What? Bud cashed out? WTF?
Posted by betting babe on :
ok ill play
eod 1.07 volume 989,000
~BB
Posted by betting babe on :
i triiiiied i couldnt hear well it was all muffled. im a good typer but not such a good listener i kept zoning out.
Bud - i think Bud wasnt getting enough attn making up stuff anymore so now he needs to create another drama to get attn.
i was trying to find another play to busy myself today. thought HLEG would run, it's got one hoof outta the stable...
i just cant sit here watching this anymooooore!
the attorney stuff was a good find tho. about the american idol brothers and stuff. put substance behind the deals.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Where is BB today? She was making me LMAO last night when I would read her posts, during the interview. Thanks for the effort though.
um, dog? was i the ocd person ur referring to? lol and btw maurice wears BRIEFS :-P
Posted by SYGY on :
1.185 no pr----1.345 with pr -------------------- 872500 v-------1350000 v
Posted by luvforever on :
Mine is 1.20 at 2 million...... Posted by portman on :
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Peronally, im not looking into any other stocks right now. Im semi retired in the penny game until i figure out what it is ive already gotten myself into!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
1.06 and volume of 250,632... OH you want EOD predictions. Well that is a different story.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Ok - no PR 1.05 and 420,000
Posted by Vin on :
1.04 1,100,001
Posted by P Rowds on :
hey bettingbabe... you said looking at next position. i havn't been keeping up on this but WWEN may still be a good play once the 10k is released (sound familiar? ) well, last i read, it's supposed to be out in about.... a week in a half now. just something to put on your radar.
and question... so i moseyed on over to your myspace page... this is a personal question so don't feel obligated to answer... but how is it that your single? Posted by ruthie on :
WE need news!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
I have the transcripts from last night's interview on p a l talk.....you can read the questions and comments the people had. Apparently someone faxed them to Rufus today. If anyone wants a copy let me know.
Posted by portman on :
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Posted by: bluediamonds In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 38143 Date:8/11/2006 11:24:45 AM Post #of 38152
CSHD Surviving Officers from July 11, 2006 FHAL 8-K files with the SEC
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer
(b) Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer
(c) Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer
(d) Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary
(e) Romeo Venditti Executive Vice President of Global Investements
(f) Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments
(g) John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations
Rufus Harris - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer & President Mr. Harris is the Founder and originator of Waatle Holdings Corp, Arizona Corporation and Conversion Solutions, Inc a Delaware Corporation. The co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Harris has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 10 years.
Ben Stanley - Director & Chief Operating Officer Mr. Stanley is the Founder and co-originator of Waatle Holdings Corp and CVSU and the co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Stanley has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 15 years.
John Walsh - Director & Executive Vice President Administrations Mr. Walsh formerly served as Controller, Birmingham Southeast, LLC a subsidiary of Birmingham Steel Corporation. Prior to that, Mr. Walsh has more than 25 years of experience as a Controller and Administrator in several industries, i.e., molded rubber, chemicals, fibers, PVC film, and consulting. His experience includes more than 18 years with Hoechst Corporation, a Fortune 100 Company, with ever-increasing responsibilities. He last served as Director of Financial Administration at the Hoechst PVC Film Division.
Darryl Horton, CPA - Chief Financial Officer Mr. Horton is a graduate of Accounting (cum laude) from Michigan State University and has an array of experiences that include fifteen years working as an executive with the State of Michigan. Mr. Horton has served State Government as Director of Internal Audits and he is currently the Director of the Division of Licensing & Certification, which is responsible for the monitoring and regulation of all of the state's hospitals and health facilities.
Darryl Horton has earned invaluable experience as a Certified Public Accountant for over fourteen years and as Founder and CEO of Horton & Associates, a public accounting firm specializing in corporate tax planning. As an Associate Member of the Certified Fraud Examiners and as a Certified Internal Auditor, Mr. Horton has developed and monitored budgets in excess of 250 million USD, focusing on analysis of internal controls and utilizing risk assessment tools for various organizations in both the private and public industry sectors.
Mr. Horton is a highly respected member of his community who serves as Audit Chair for the local chapter of the American Red Cross; he is a member of the National Association of Accountants and the Institute of Internal Auditors, in addition to participating on the boards of several other organizations and charities.
As Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Horton will provide corporate leadership by directing treasury activities and with coordination of budget programs. He will assess the financial impact of functional initiatives and generate creative solutions. Mr. Horton will formulate and optimize the capital and tax strategy of the company and will be responsible for financial reporting by developing objectives for establishing a reporting system with controls and safeguards to protect company assets.
Jerry Bivens -- Corporate Secretary Mr. Bivens has a Masters of Education from University of Tennessee, and a Bachelor of Science from Tennessee Wesleyan College. His experience ranges from Director of Financial to Marketing Director for two publicly held companies. Mr. Bivens has taught at the United States Military Academy, WestPoint, University of Tennessee, Hiwassee College, and Tennessee Wesleyan College.
quote:Originally posted by portman: Closing Price Guess List (Open until 11:30 Eastern)
jasbran 1.25 portman 1.12
I'll say 1.13 EOD...I like 13's. Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: hey bettingbabe... and question... so i moseyed on over to your myspace page... this is a personal question so don't feel obligated to answer... but how is it that your single?
radared, thx. looking for something immed to kill the boredome tho.
single? u have noticed how much time i spend here or shooting right? & those website dont just program themselves... LOL
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: hey bettingbabe... and question... so i moseyed on over to your myspace page... this is a personal question so don't feel obligated to answer... but how is it that your single?
radared, thx. looking for something immed to kill the boredome tho.
single? u have noticed how much time i spend here or shooting right? & those website dont just program themselves... LOL
Takes a lot of time to be soooo Beautiful. Hey, I'm glad your here (and single).
Posted by portman on :
jasbran 1.25 portman 1.12 586,000 Livinonklendathu 1.05 420,000 Mr. CATIAEngineer 1.03 1,200,000 ruthie 1.06 betting babe 1.07 989,000 SYGY 1.18 872500 luvforever 1.20 2,000,000 dog 1.11 TaxBack04 1.06 250,632 (lol) vin 1.04 1,100,001 unclerudy 1.13 Jo4321 1.10
Posted by P Rowds on :
haha, understandable bb... i'm sure some poor sap out there would put up with it tho... Posted by SYGY on :
bkmp now 0.0003!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well I am not "beautiful or single", but I am here waiting to be "filthy and rich". Anyone see when the last trade went through? I think my watch stopped... Posted by SYGY on :
what do you guys show as level2??
Posted by betting babe on :
it's not a matter of them putting up w me, it's me putting up w them
*taps streamer* testing.. testing.. is this thing on???
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: haha, understandable bb... i'm sure some poor sap out there would put up with it tho...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I just hope I don't become so "filthy and rich" that my wife wants to become "beautiful and single". HA, ha, haaa.... HEY thats not funny...
TB
Posted by SYGY on :
i think this is a record ,for stall!!
Posted by betting babe on :
lol tax. just hand her the keys to the new beamer and she'll be fine.
OT: telling ya, HLEG. women's intuition.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
So...haven't really kept up with the last 2000 pages or so since the FHAL thread started. I know the merger is taking place...does it still look like you are going to see that $15.00 per share?
BF
Posted by SYGY on :
eod run or selloff???opinions???
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: So...haven't really kept up with the last 2000 pages or so since the FHAL thread started. I know the merger is taking place...does it still look like you are going to see that $15.00 per share?
BF
either that or the funny farm BF.
CEO brought his attorney into the online chat last night, laughed his butt off at our questions and still insisted all is well.
as did the attorney, basically.
havent been able to find any inconsistencies really, nor dirt.
everything is 'basically' on schedule, CUSPID changed, ticker changed...
CHSD is teetering on a $1 fence and could fall either way
~BB
Posted by SYGY on :
butmost would like to think the later!!we move up from here till 10k,,doubt it will fall !!
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: ifURmethanwhoami In reply to: Vet who wrote msg# 38218 Date:8/11/2006 11:53:31 AM Post #of 38242
Who knows. They claimed they were working w/ the CPA today to clear up old, un-justified claims on FHAL. That will probably keep them busy most of the day. Then, there is the DTC and the TA that have to coordinate the file feeds and updates. My gut tells me we see the 10K Monday or Tuesday. But, I could be surprised today. I like surprises.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Well, Bud750 is now saying he is out. My "feelings" about him yesterday were just confirmed in my opinion. He is trouble for anyone that have been listening to him. I hope Rufus counters his legal threats and nails him for stock manipulation. At least maybe now he will get out of the picture........
Personally I think Bud was full of crap from the beginning. I think he got a few lucky guesses on the PR's and that's about it. Last night's interview instilled more confidence in this, obviously we are green - and Bud claims to sell? C'mon! I have my doubts this guy ever owned shares, probably some teenager posting after school for fun.
And why would you sell now and risk getting caught with shares sold short if this really does happen ? Something never added up for me with this 'Bud' character, looks like I was right.
Posted by betting babe on :
just being realistic & impartial for bigfoot, sygy.
10K shoves us off the fence and sends us flying to $15 Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: it's not a matter of them putting up w me, it's me putting up w them
*taps streamer* testing.. testing.. is this thing on???
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: haha, understandable bb... i'm sure some poor sap out there would put up with it tho...
haha, good one bb... good personality too... i've come to the conclusion your lying;) no one goes by the name of paula patrice for 35 years and doesn't have a significant other:D
well g/l all... it's off to the lake for me. recommend you all do the same:D nice day out here in northern wisconsin. gonna dread going to atlanta this sunday...
Posted by betting babe on :
re: BUD
look at his first post on FHAL:
Posted by: bud750 In reply to: None Date:7/18/2006 5:46:24 PM Post #of 38243
Hello all i'm new to this stock, haven't bought any yet looking for a entry point looking to put my 60k profit from xkem into this what is going on with the buyout at what price and when they looking to do it any help would be great thank
NOT a post from an insider eh? didnt know anything, didnt know ticker change, etc etc
~BB
Posted by SYGY on :
BB the digging queen!!!!lol! you go girl!
Posted by dog on :
He's "out" doesn't mean he sold his position...
Most likely got contacted by some legal entity this AM, and was told to cut it out...
He left the board and won't be back... somebody scared him.
Posted by cassity on :
BB, you sounded like I do when I'm in class. It all begins to sound like Charlie Browns mom. Whawwha waha hawha. I think the longer your single the more difficult it is to share your life with some one.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I agree cassity.....I got married in 2004 and I am now divorced....it was hard to be married after being single for 34 years~
Posted by dog on :
Aaack had 11 years... got married at 24 (too young), divorced 6 months and doin great...
No reason to get married now... I can still have a deep, meaningful and committed relationship without it.
After a million plus dollars and 200 grand in legal fees... as my lawyer puts it.. "marriage is likely not a good business decision for you."
Posted by SYGY on :
married for 8 in the courts for 9 and counting!!yeh!!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I'm getting married this year for the first time, I'm 35. But I waited until I found the right one, so I'm not worried at all. If you know yourself and what works for you - and you're in love (duh) - it doesn't matter how long you have been single, it can work great.
Anyway I'm starting to agree with the theory on Bud being 'out', I don't think he sold, he claimed to have what 100K shares? I think that lawyer told him to shut the hell up or he would be sued. I would have done that to him from day one...
Well all I'm out for the weekend, GLTA and let's hope this finally gets done next week !
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: re: BUD
look at his first post on FHAL:
Posted by: bud750 In reply to: None Date:7/18/2006 5:46:24 PM Post #of 38243
Hello all i'm new to this stock, haven't bought any yet looking for a entry point looking to put my 60k profit from xkem into this what is going on with the buyout at what price and when they looking to do it any help would be great thank
NOT a post from an insider eh? didnt know anything, didnt know ticker change, etc etc
~BB
this phenomena is repeating itself over and over again BB....
it seems a few people have a memory just barely longer than? say, a seagull .... and the rest? they just say whatever comes to mind... Posted by betting babe on :
oooof. now im REALLY stayin single. thx for all the encouragement LOL
fyi, my women's intuition pick is up 30% since i mentioned it
~BB
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
One thing about getting married; create a REVOCABLE TRUST and put all your assets into it before you tie the knot. That is stronger than a pre-nup. Any money you make within the trust - even after your married - is yours. As well if you or your spouse ever gets sued, they can't touch anything in the trust. e.g. your HOUSE !
I hope most of you know this already, but that's what the rich people do - a group we'll all be added to once Rufus pull this off!
Time for my monthly shower ! Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
One more quick story on the trust...I know a guy who was worth about 2 mil. His wife got drunk one night and lost control of her car and hit a pedestrian. The pedestrian obviouslly went to sue her, and since they were married his 2 million was her 2 million. But, this person was smart and had 1.75 million in the trust. When they looked at the couple's assets they found 250K, the ped was able to get 100K out of them. A hit - but not too bad. If that 1.75 mil was not in the trust the ped would've gotten close to a mil out of them. Food for thought!
Posted by SYGY on :
just don't marry for money mine did!!and she want's it bad!!so does her new boyfriend that lost all his money in his prior divorce!!! the moral of the story!!!DON'T MARRY A CRAZY PERSON!!!!!lol!!!but that usually happens after your married so wtf is up with that!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
heh~I lost alot in my divorce! Car, house and $$....man it sucked.
Posted by glassman on :
i'm curious uncle? how bad was the pedestrian hurt?
Posted by SYGY on :
raining here!! gotta go pay my warrants today on a diamond stock!!!huh!lets get a pr or something!,,,
Posted by betting babe on :
omg i will now be a very stingy single person!
then again i have no car, no house, i dont like 'stuff'.
Posted by dog on :
I work every day (and I mean every day), while she sits home with no job, new car, and just cashes checks...
Oh well... havin fun, got it back and then some in 6 months. I'M FREE!
If this does well... more icing on the cake.
Yes.. I don't recommend marrying a crazy person either... unfortunately doesn't leave many to date.
I paid the price for telling someone with no plan or initiative, to do whatever she wanted to be happy and I'd pay for it....
Posted by SYGY on :
when it comes to relationships!!!it's all in the heart!!you have to accept totally who the other person is and likewise OR YOUR SCREWED!!!!thats all i gotta say!!!! go stock go!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
yeah it sucks when you're taken advantage of!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: heh~I lost alot in my divorce! Car, house and $$....man it sucked.
When I hear these stories I wonder what the other person would say... -starting to sound like Oprah in here! ha ~
Posted by SYGY on :
well now im depressed,,,i guess i'll sell all my shares!!!for a buck!!! NOT!!!!!lol!!!anybody got a good joke??
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i'm curious uncle? how bad was the pedestrian hurt?
Think a broken leg or something, was awhile ago. All I know is that the trust saved this guys ass.
Posted by new2stocks on :
well chartwalker, everyone has a story I guess.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Like I said before....
The # 1 cause of divorce is Marriage!!!!
Single is cheaper,,,,
Posted by SYGY on :
ben and rufus laughing!!!ya they have millions of shares each!!!!could i say laughing all the way to extreme freedom!!! 1000$ will be like a dime when this is rolling!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: well now im depressed,,,i guess i'll sell all my shares!!!for a buck!!! NOT!!!!!lol!!!anybody got a good joke??
-a joke?... sure! Why did cavemen drag their women back to the cave by the hair?...
-Cause if they dragged them by the feet they would fill with sand Posted by betting babe on :
pretty blonde is in the elevator at work.
guy gets in the elevator.
perky blonde says T-G-I-F!
guy says back to her S-H-I-T.
guy gets out, next guy gets in.
perky blonde says T-G-I-F!
guy says back to her S-H-I-T
and the blonde is like 'what is with everybody today??!'
the next guy gets in the elevator
perky blonde says even perkier T-G-I-F
guy says back to her S-H-I-T
perky blonde says 'what is wrong with you people? TGIF, thank gawd it's friday! duh!'
guy says back to her S-H-I-T ...sorry honey, it's thursday!
heeheeheehee
Posted by dog on :
I'm excited too SYGY... but cautious.
When I'm oceanside with a drink in my hand, and a fat portfolio..... then I'll get excited, and hopefully have somebody to share it with LOL
Posted by new2stocks on :
OMG! Chartwalker that's real funny stuff right there!
Posted by SYGY on :
lmao!!good ones!
Posted by dog on :
GREAT BB! Posted by new2stocks on :
bb that was funny!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Only have a few minutes to check on anything....Does anyone have a read as to when TDAmeritrade is going to get there chit togeather as far as trading this goes???
I'm starting to not like them much..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Anybody else having trouble with their eyes as this goes forward?... "I can hardly see working anymore!" LOL ~
Posted by SYGY on :
looks like the stock is wound pretty tight now!!should see a upward movement soon i hope,,woundn't want to not be holding over weekend!!
Posted by Vin on :
All kidding aside about the marriage stuff...my father once told me something that I'll never forget and has carried me through my marriage. He said that I would never know what happiness was until I got married....then it's too late!
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Like I said before....
The # 1 cause of divorce is Marriage!!!!
Single is cheaper,,,,
In my case it was definitely not cheaper to keep her . .
She drained six figures a year on God knows what...
Must have been the perpetual vacation she was on, and the weekend shopping trips to New York, daily Starbucks, Pilates, yoga, blahblahblah
Well now it's my turn... for once I'm spending on myself... and I know exactly where all the money is.
I'll say one thing for divorce... it wakes you up and gets you very organized!
Posted by new2stocks on :
lol chartwalker!
Posted by 10of13 on :
wow..are you guys that bored that you are posting of your loses after being married? Men aren't the only ones that "get Screwed" during a divorce...I "took" all debt (that he created)and the kids...he pays no child support...and 100% free...to enjoy his life...I am much better off with out him...
marriage with the right person can be wonderful...I've seen it with several people...
Posted by dog on :
That's why we are just jawing here... this thing is dead in the water til the 10K.
Posted by Vin on :
"happy married people"....the rarest breed!
Posted by new2stocks on :
dog...good luck to you! It only gets better!
Posted by glassman on :
you must know all three of them then 10 Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I flip back a forth between Ihub and here. frankly I'm getting sick of that board. There are some good boards on IHub but the CSHD board is completly annoying. The format, personalities, and real DD here is extremly refreshing. Kinda like a cold beer would be like in Atlanta (P Rowds is gonna feel the heat down there LOL). But thanks for the quality that I get to glean from and learn from.
Posted by betting babe on :
maumee im on hold w TDAm's reorg dept awaiting status info...
will update what i find out.
~BB
Posted by casviper on :
when did this thread become a marriage counseling thread????? Next we will see Ann Landers giving advise.
GO CSHD !!!!!!!!
Posted by Vin on :
Anyone think that this has a chance to drop to .99 at any point today? Looking for a few more, but not sure where I should jump in. Right now sitting at .99
Posted by Igor R on :
Atlanta has been so hot and humid lately, its annoying. Anyone got a summary of the past 40 or so pages, haha.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Geez, i was only gone for lunch and this placed turned into relationship advice and comedy central!
Its kind of refreshing though, no one arguing or panicking over a "down tick". Seems to be a lot of 30 somethings in here though, and unmarried at that. Is there some personality type we all might fit into or something?
Posted by dog on :
Seriously.. I'm not complaining... other than my marriage (there were good times too), this life has been incredible... and better every day.
The problem with marriage is that it takes 2 people to be committed to it....no one wants to work at anything anymore.
I agree with your comment 10 . .I'm not that jaded.
She get $5k amonth for 5 years . . sorry to piss you off 10, next time marry for money LOL Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Atlanta has been so hot and humid lately, its annoying. Anyone got a summary of the past 40 or so pages, haha.
Don't get married, BB was spanking some one and Rufas has a great lawyer.
Posted by dog on :
Sorry.. next subject ....CSHD!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Blond gets pulled over by a Blond state trooper>
Blond Trooper asks to see the blond motorists Liscense>
Driver says ...What does it look like??
Trooper says... It's about yeh big...square and has your picture on it>>
Blond driver .. Looks frantic as she rifles thru her purse....
A few minutes go by and she comes across a small mirror ...She picks it up and looks into it and says to the Blond police officer,,"Here is my liscense>>
The blond Trooper looks into the mirror and says.. Oh! I'm sorry officer!!! You can go....
Posted by new2stocks on :
great summary 10! lol
Posted by casviper on :
marriage is so yesterday.... who needs that piece of paper anyway, its just extra clutter.
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: wow..are you guys that bored that you are posting of your loses after being married? Men aren't the only ones that "get Screwed" during a divorce...I "took" all debt (that he created)and the kids...he pays no child support...and 100% free...to enjoy his life...I am much better off with out him...
marriage with the right person can be wonderful...I've seen it with several people...
What are you doing tonight ??
Posted by Vin on :
Damn dog, now we gotta come clean?! Ok, I'm 48 and horribly in love with my wife and best friend...and yep, they're one in the same. If she had any interest in this stuff and this board, I would score major points for that one, huh?!!
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Damn dog, now we gotta come clean?! Ok, I'm 48 and horribly in love with my wife and best friend...and yep, they're one in the same. If she had any interest in this stuff and this board, I would score major points for that one, huh?!!
She must be looking over your shoulder !
Posted by new2stocks on :
I am female.
Posted by Vin on :
No, just really love her. Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: maumee im on hold w TDAm's reorg dept awaiting status info...
will update what i find out.
~BB
Thanks BB
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one waiting...LOL
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I am female.
Commence the leg humping, .
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I am female.
Commence the leg humping, .
Shouldn't dog be the one to do that?? Posted by Igor R on :
Haha, good point.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Posted by SYGY on :
a little action on stock!!
Posted by Vin on :
Somethings up.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: No, just really love her.
See..happy marriage! they are out there...
Dog...no reason to marry for money...he might take it during the divorce...LOL
Tylee...givin the dogs a bath...whoo hoo!
Posted by betting babe on :
BB pulls a Bud: i have an update i have an update nah nah nahhhh nah nahhhh nahhhhh
i do actually, lemme type it out.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Does anyone here use Microcaptrade????
Whay can't we see L2's on this...or chart ???
Posted by luvforever on :
39......................... female lol
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
speaking of significant others... I convinced my girlfriend (who in NOT a risk taker) to buy $500 of this stock. Ended up with 450 for her. I know it's not much but if things go well it could pay for some graduate classes. And since it's in my account I can track CSHD easier than the # where my FHAL was. If this stock does well I souldn't have to hard a time staying out of the dog house when I spend to much time with stock Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Does anyone here use Microcaptrade????
Whay can't we see L2's on this...or chart ???
bump
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: bb that was funny!
Funny? but it's probably the truth!
Yah, I don't like blondes, learned from experience. They are not called dumb blondes by coincidence. Yes, I'm sure there are a few good ones out there.
Posted by SYGY on :
blonds are OK REALLY!!JUST TAKE 2 AT A TIME,,,covers your shorts!!!
Posted by Vin on :
Things seemed to be moving...then nothing at all.
Posted by SYGY on :
REVEREND TIMOTHY save our souls we are all siners'''''please show up at our profit party cause she'e gonna blow!!!toga !toga! toga!
Posted by Vin on :
Is anything happening??? I can't tell with my view. Looks like nothing has gone through for some time now.
Posted by SYGY on :
what youa'll shy!!???lol!!!
Posted by dog on :
What's up BB?
Posted by betting babe on :
spoke to a guy in TDAmeritrade's reorganization department.
he says TDAm wont list CSHD shares yet to protect us, the holders of the shares, from accidentally shorting the stock. or as he explained to me "if you sell some of your shares now, and someone buys them, but we dont actually get the shares from the company, then you will owe the shares to the person who bought them from you"
he went on to say this was a big 'chat board stock" and that the shares that are trading right now do not really exist - that i'd be surprised what goes on. that these trades are all "invisible shares"
the status: he says that TDAm is awaiting a "security transfer to us... the transfer agent sends shares to the DTC who swings the position to us. currently the DTC shows an anticipated swing date of AUGUST 14TH."
so, integrity hasnt transferred anything yet? i asked him.
he seemed surprised that i busted out the transfer agent's name and he said no, nothing has been moved yet. but when it does, it should hit all brokerages at the same time.
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Thanks for poundin the pavement there BB. I can make it through another weekend i guess. Seeing forward movement on Monday could be a great way to start the week!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thanks BB!!!
That would explain Microcap issue too,,,...I think..
Have a good day all!!!
Later..
Posted by glassman on :
he went on to say this was a big 'chat board stock" and that the shares that are trading right now do not really exist - that i'd be surprised what goes on. that these trades are all "invisible shares"
we'd be surprised? LOL....
Posted by Igor R on :
If we buy CSHD shares now, will we have any shorting problems? Im kind of confused on that whole deal.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: spoke to a guy in TDAmeritrade's reorganization department.
he says TDAm wont list CSHD shares yet to protect us, the holders of the shares, from accidentally shorting the stock. or as he explained to me "if you sell some of your shares now, and someone buys them, but we dont actually get the shares from the company, then you will owe the shares to the person who bought them from you"
he went on to say this was a big 'chat board stock" and that the shares that are trading right now do not really exist - that i'd be surprised what goes on. that these trades are all "invisible shares"
the status: he says that TDAm is awaiting a "security transfer to us... the transfer agent sends shares to the DTC who swings the position to us. currently the DTC shows an anticipated swing date of AUGUST 14TH."
so, integrity hasnt transferred anything yet? i asked him.
he seemed surprised that i busted out the transfer agent's name and he said no, nothing has been moved yet. but when it does, it should hit all brokerages at the same time.
~BB
And the plot thickens!
Posted by milliam on :
My thing is, if these are trades with invisible shares, what's going to happen when Integrity goes to transfer shares and there's not enough to go around? I know...a short squeeze, but who actually squeezes and is this the last straw for the shorts or do they have ways around this?
I know, my usual short fear stuff, but I just can't understand how all of this will go down.
BTW, thanks BB for the info...I'm with TDA as well.
Milliam
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
what happens if/when there are not enough real shares to cover? say the certs pulled by rufus and friends causes a squeeze but how does this eventually resolve if they are short to the point of not being able to cover at all? I am lost and confused but what else is new...thanks to anyone who understands this
Posted by dog on :
So my FHAL stock on lockdown is safer than if I have the new CSHD?
Posted by dog on :
Am I understanding this correctly? The documented FHAL shares are guaranteed by certificates, until the transfer is complete... CSHD does not have certs?
Posted by leanlow06 on :
that is what i thought the ceo said also, so as of now there is really no shares for either comp. on the market. So what happins to these million or so shares that have been sold and bought in the past few days. And if there is 16 million shares shorted and they open at 15$ will all the shorted shares have to be covered right away. So...someone said on this thread or somewhere else that if only 6 million of those shares were covered that after the 15$ open you could expect the price to go up 6 to 7x, well if all 16 million shares had to be covered, which i dont see how they could'nt, what price could we be looking at per shares??
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Am I understanding this correctly? The documented FHAL shares are guaranteed by certificates, until the transfer is complete... CSHD does not have certs?
Thats how it sounds to me. Is it normal for symbol changes to work this way? This seems messy with potential of getting VERY messy. Im not saying that CVSU is handling it poorly, the system itself seems strange.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by leanlow06: that is what i thought the ceo said also, so as of now there is really no shares for either comp. on the market. So what happins to these million or so shares that have been sold and bought in the past few days. And if there is 16 million shares shorted and they open at 15$ will all the shorted shares have to be covered right away. So...someone said on this thread or somewhere else that if only 6 million of those shares were covered that after the 15$ open you could expect the price to go up 6 to 7x, well if all 16 million shares had to be covered, which i dont see how they could'nt, what price could we be looking at per shares??
Yea, are the shorters actually going to keep the pps up for us? If so, does anyone think this could have been part of the plan from the beginning? This is interesting stuff.
Posted by dog on :
Glad I have FHAL shares and the docs to back the purchases with a large company (Scottrade) that has the ability and no choice in the matter from a legal standpoint to honor my shares....
Small trading firms can go bankrupt from this and you could be SOL.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by leanlow06: that is what i thought the ceo said also, so as of now there is really no shares for either comp. on the market. So what happins to these million or so shares that have been sold and bought in the past few days. And if there is 16 million shares shorted and they open at 15$ will all the shorted shares have to be covered right away. So...someone said on this thread or somewhere else that if only 6 million of those shares were covered that after the 15$ open you could expect the price to go up 6 to 7x, well if all 16 million shares had to be covered, which i dont see how they could'nt, what price could we be looking at per shares??
Yea, are the shorters actually going to keep the pps up for us? If so, does anyone think this could have been part of the plan from the beginning? This is interesting stuff.
It's nice to see that after a month of stating the obvious that some of our brightest students are just now catching up. LOL
they have been given 90-120 days to cover by cshd. If however cshd truly has investment money lined up to support the pps, the MM's will have to compete with them and the free market, and the price could spiral right on out of here.
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Am I understanding this correctly? The documented FHAL shares are guaranteed by certificates, until the transfer is complete... CSHD does not have certs?
yes, dog, that is how i understand it. i'm not touching this thing until certs are received.
i cant help but think this could be part of a master plan... which may have caused all that giggling last nite.
the TDAm guy did use the phrase "invisible shares" to describe the trading of CSHD thus far.
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
Small trading firms can go bankrupt from this and you could be SOL
.no.... shortsellers could go down...
this is still a precarious situation here..
who did the shortselling?
did stock publish their article to convince foolish retailers to short more? thereby allowing the older shorts to cover by buying shorts? (changing who had the short position?)
i believe so....
Posted by dog on :
BB... remember how he kept thanking the "original" shareholders in their confidence with holding the stock... With my old shares I feel like I have real "original" shares now!
Don't walk under any tall buildings of finance... it could soon be raining idiots.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I would think that some of the shares that have been traded are "real"...if they were original FHAL shares that would have been "phoned" in to do the trade...the first day or 2...
I have purchased some of the "new" shares...and have FHAL...guess I am going to see what it's like to be on both sides of the fence at the same time...LOL
Posted by luvforever on :
Hey folks now that jj guy? hmm 38464 post at ihub? Any takes... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by leanlow06: that is what i thought the ceo said also, so as of now there is really no shares for either comp. on the market. So what happins to these million or so shares that have been sold and bought in the past few days. And if there is 16 million shares shorted and they open at 15$ will all the shorted shares have to be covered right away. So...someone said on this thread or somewhere else that if only 6 million of those shares were covered that after the 15$ open you could expect the price to go up 6 to 7x, well if all 16 million shares had to be covered, which i dont see how they could'nt, what price could we be looking at per shares??
Yea, are the shorters actually going to keep the pps up for us? If so, does anyone think this could have been part of the plan from the beginning? This is interesting stuff.
It's nice to see that after a month of stating the obvious that some of our brightest students are just now catching up. LOL
they have been given 90-120 days to cover by cshd. If however cshd truly has investment money lined up to support the pps, the MM's will have to compete with them and the free market, and the price could spiral right on out of here.
This comes off a bit cocky, sarcastic and arrogant but its Friday and im not about to start my weekend off on the wrong foot. Remember there is a lot of "inexperience" in here k? Posted by wallymac on :
Well let's see. Share were trading since monday's change to the new symbol. Almost 10M. Say that they represent both buys and sells so 5M shares are out there that don't exist. Funny isn't how the volume crashed after the info came out. Planned, I wonder.
GLTA Wally
Posted by Igor R on :
So, its not safe to buy CSHD shares right now? Im still pretty lost.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
thans Babe. I have TDA also if there are the official number of shorts was something like 6.2 million I think Rufus said. He also stated that the actual shares shorted was something like 3x the official number so that puts us at 18.6million shares. If Rufus has the institutions in place to support the price and a couple of blockbuster pr's on top of this . I don't think anybody could put a price per share on this.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
If you BOUGHT CSHD shares over the last few days you essentially are fine, you have basically turned a short position into a long position - they are your shares and someone will have to cover for them! However if you SELL any FHAL/CSHD after the symbol change you could potentially be screwed ! Until the 10K comes out and the price is reset.
Posted by dog on :
Glass... I agree, but what if your trading company tries to back out of shares without certs? Is that possible? You could sue them . . that's what I meant by bankrupt.
If these are "invisible shares" .. why the hell is this symbol even on the marketand trading?
Just when you think you know the rules... you realize you're playing the wrong game.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: So, its not safe to buy CSHD shares right now? Im still pretty lost.
It's safe to buy - not to sell. Selling shares right now could create a short position that you will have to cover.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, thats my thought dog. I would have thought there would be some major law forcing the stock to halt until details were worked out. Maybe the lawmakers dont like shorters and this is their way to stick it to them? Posted by djg7 on :
Just keep your car in park for now.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
My broker, you may have heard of them, Charles Schwab told me that selling before the certs are in could result in a short position. Buying is fine, but if you sell the CSHD shares you bought, again you may create a short position if they aren't real. Flippers of this right now are going to be in a real pickle !
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I know I was late today and missed all of the blonde jokes and a couple of marriage ones. You guys and girls have to check this out this is might be my all time favorite blonde joke.
Oh and why do married guys die before their wives?
because they want to.
Posted by glassman on :
this is why i have been here for so long...
have read almost every single post...
i hold shares in a brokerage account that has big guns...
the DTC is not perfect...
they (MM's and CEDE and co) make mistakes and i think they made a big one here early on...
i have no idea which way this will go, but there is a lot of comon sense in allowing extra time for the shorts to cover...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Small trading firms can go bankrupt from this and you could be SOL
.no.... shortsellers could go down...
this is still a precarious situation here..
who did the shortselling?
did stock publish their article to convince foolish retailers to short more? thereby allowing the older shorts to cover by buying shorts? (changing who had the short position?)
i believe so....
That lemons killing me!
Posted by dog on :
EXACTLY... Smelly, hence the low volume and stability.
The previous poster was right: If they were trying to screw us... would that not be pumping this? Rufus and friends changed the CUSIP and symbol. I surmise that they fully plan on merging, 10K, and wait for the smoke to clear, then count the mountain of assets that the gained by climbing the backs of the short sellers!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Wow that will teach me to go away to lunch...
I love my wife, and my shares. No one can scare me outta either deal.
I gotta vice grip on my slips and my wife! Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: this is why i have been here for so long...
have read almost every single post...
i hold shares in a brokerage account that has big guns...
the DTC is not perfect...
they (MM's and CEDE and co) make mistakes and i think they made a big one here early on...
i have no idea which way this will go, but there is a lot of comon sense in allowing extra time for the shorts to cover...
This will give them time to sell the island, the houses, the cars and boats, the children, and everything else of value to cover this. Not that I'm gleeful of their demise, but they knew the risks.. so screw em. I won't be shorting stocks with my monies.
Problem? What if the bulk of shorters are in offshore accounts (like Osama and the airlines before 9-11)... how do they collect? And if they don't.. are we the ones that suffer?
Posted by glassman on :
now you are getting beyond my ability to answer..
the brokers have to work that out amongst themselves...
the brokers have their reputations to maintain...
we are still waiting on audited financials... the steady price is the only thing i have faith in.. i've seen it...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Its my understanding that the bulk of shorters ARE offshore. Im down with the demise of shorters as well but that little bit of info leaves questions eh?
Posted by dog on :
451,000 volume.... 294 trades? Wow.. dead in the water. Come on 10K.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, i guess my 1 mil+ guess in volume isnt likely
Posted by SherriT on :
Hi all - happily married, and I can guarantee we have worked our collective ends off keeping it together. If we aren't divorced now, don't think anything could cause it...if you aren't willing to sacrifice for your partner, you shouldn't get married (to someone that is also willing to sacrifice for you - one way streets do not work - had that with marriage #1)
Now, I am just ready to make the big $! Come on CSHD!
Posted by SYGY on :
I have never been so entertained by a board in my life! Thanks you guys. We should definitely get together and chiil when this is done....
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:This comes off a bit cocky, sarcastic and arrogant but its Friday and im not about to start my weekend off on the wrong foot. Remember there is a lot of "inexperience" in here k?
just being a wiseass, no harm intended man.
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: shavashava In reply to: None Date:8/11/2006 2:59:17 PM Post #of 38563
Just got off the phone with local ST. He said, "DTC has just wired some notification to brokers". He'll let me know after the bell after he finds out from home office. Could you verify with your brokers? DTC said to "get Corporate Action Information from your broker". It could be final clearance from DTC on switching of the shares, I don't know
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:This comes off a bit cocky, sarcastic and arrogant but its Friday and im not about to start my weekend off on the wrong foot. Remember there is a lot of "inexperience" in here k?
just being a wiseass, no harm intended man.
Yea, i thought about that after i read it again. I almost went back and edited so I didnt sound so harsh. LOL
You have been helpful to me along the way, just a misread. Posted by portman on :
Yes... very good group on the board. When we are sucessful it will be just one more plus in this journey. If we somehow are not. At least the trip will have been enjoyable.
Thanks gals and guys!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes... very good group on the board. When we are sucessful it will be just one more plus in this journey. If we somehow are not. At least the trip will have been enjoyable.
Thanks gals and guys!
Yea, we even watch each others backs in paltalk eh? Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
The shortys have never given a penny of my losses back, why should they have the right to cover?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Yes, I say a party at the Bellagio !
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Here's a survey when did everyone get buy this stock. I made my first purchase June 14th I believe.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Here's a survey when did everyone get buy this stock. I made my first purchase June 14th I believe.
OOOOH ya got me!! Im pretty sure my initial purchase was June 15th
Posted by milliam on :
Ok...what about this thing Rufus was talking about...they would put something on the website where we could go and do the proxy thing. Each individual (who holds their certs) would have their own indentification number. Others (who have their certs with the brokers) wouldn't be able to do as much, but still could. Did I hear all of that right?
Now, back to my favorite topic...if your shares are shorted, would it tell you this here? Can you even ask your broker if your shares are shorted?
Posted by betting babe on :
re: THE B LOG
that guy's b log is an RSS feed of DoD news.
it is an open forum where anyone can add their own "updates" (and obv they are)
the previous b logs were removed by the b log owner cuz the source was unknown.
i saw it, didnt even b other to read.
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: The shortys have never given a penny of my losses back, why should they have the right to cover?
good question... because shory has to have a lot of cash to play...
alot....
longs can only lose what they put on the table...
theoretically? shorty? can lose unlimited amounts...
margin is why the markets crash... but margin is also what keeps the cash flowing into the brokers pockets...
Posted by dog on :
Hell yeah... I'd go to Vegas in a hot second!
But Smelly, it's unfortunate that we can't bring any cologne, aftershave, toothpaste, or other toiletries on the plane.
Uh oh BB... no makeup. I'm sure you'll make due au naturale.
Posted by SYGY on :
those b-l-o-g-s are a funny read!!! amazing this time!!!
Posted by betting babe on :
i dont wear makeup dog. unless im paid of course.
OT: CTXI is a group something rite now for the bored folks
and im going to vegas to see the doobie brothers concert in 2 weeks Posted by RyanPBF on :
This has been the best board I've been a part of. For the most part everyone over here has been pretty level headed. I used to be over at Ihub for awhile. I just can't take it there for any extended period of time. It's to bad because there are some good people there. So did anyone check out my blonde joke.
Posted by dog on :
Excellent....
Posted by SYGY on :
this stock should start stiring SOON!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: re: THE B LOG
that guy's b log is an RSS feed of DoD news.
it is an open forum where anyone can add their own "updates" (and obv they are)
the previous b logs were removed by the b log owner cuz the source was unknown.
i saw it, didnt even b other to read.
~BB
Aww come on, it does have a bit of entertainment value. I especially like the one the other day with the SWAT team at the front door. There was a big rubber dongle sticking out of the barrel.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I did Ryan...it was funny.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
BB = Popular....and untidy with her PM box. Posted by dog on :
Catch you guys later today... don't see much happening until Monday (fingers crossed).
Posted by betting babe on :
oops. cleanup time eh? we should earn more PM server space the longer we're here!
cya dog woof woof meooooow
Posted by betting babe on :
c'mon tick. one tick come onnnnnnnnnn close at 7!!!
ok fine i lose who wins?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes... very good group on the board. When we are sucessful it will be just one more plus in this journey. If we somehow are not. At least the trip will have been enjoyable.
Thanks gals and guys!
Yea, we even watch each others backs in paltalk eh?
Yes, we do Don't mess with our BB man!
Posted by portman on :
Honorable mention Jo!
Posted by SYGY on :
green is good!!
Posted by Danny_K on :
I was out all day... Did i miss anything? Probably not, but figured i would ask. to lazy to read 10 pages Posted by Jo4321 on :
Well, off to Boston for vacation tommorrow. Won't be able to keep up with this stock unless I talk hubby into stopping at a library somewhere!
Have a great weekend everyone.
Jo
Posted by betting babe on :
hey Danny. didnt miss much, a few blonde jokes and some marrital strife...
and this:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: spoke to a guy in TDAmeritrade's reorganization department.
he says TDAm wont list CSHD shares yet to protect us, the holders of the shares, from accidentally shorting the stock. or as he explained to me "if you sell some of your shares now, and someone buys them, but we dont actually get the shares from the company, then you will owe the shares to the person who bought them from you"
he went on to say this was a big 'chat board stock" and that the shares that are trading right now do not really exist - that i'd be surprised what goes on. that these trades are all "invisible shares"
the status: he says that TDAm is awaiting a "security transfer to us... the transfer agent sends shares to the DTC who swings the position to us. currently the DTC shows an anticipated swing date of AUGUST 14TH."
so, integrity hasnt transferred anything yet? i asked him.
he seemed surprised that i busted out the transfer agent's name and he said no, nothing has been moved yet. but when it does, it should hit all brokerages at the same time.
~BB
Posted by Vin on :
Looks like something is finally showing up in my E-Trade account. In the Porfolio view, I lost the FHAL symbol and gain some number instead. But, at least now my money and shares are showing up again. I had purchased some CSDH shares, but that's still showing up on a separate line. I assume at some point, it will move over. At least they're moving forward. Progress is good!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Posting only because im sitting at 666 posts and its creepin me out.
Have a great weekend everyone!! Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
the next FHAL (CSHD) folks is SLJB!!! With contracts like FHAL (500mill) SLJB will run along the same lines.
maybe not the 15-1 but 4-.07 is not bad either!!!
Posted by 401k on :
Scottrade still shows FHAL# on the home page but in Gainskeeper it shows Conversion Solutions Holdings (CSHD... It seems Scottrade is always the last to receive changes...
Posted by MTPromises on :
almost done with my move to Minneapolis - just stopping to check this after two days . . . so what's up with the financials that were posted this morning at 9:04 AM? why are they only through March and why do they look like what we saw from FHAL?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
If these are the audited financials for FHAL and if I'm reading this right they look pretty bankrupt. Isn't this exactly what Rufus needed to show to enact that IRS code 368? If I am off on this please correct me.
Posted by Danny_K on :
Thanks BB..
I can also confirm the first part of BBs post with TDa. I talked to them thursday and got the same response. BUt I didnt get the date of aug 14th. COol beans BB Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: almost done with my move to Minneapolis - just stopping to check this after two days . . . so what's up with the financials that were posted this morning at 9:04 AM? why are they only through March and why do they look like what we saw from FHAL?
Where are these financials posted?
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: almost done with my move to Minneapolis - just stopping to check this after two days . . . so what's up with the financials that were posted this morning at 9:04 AM? why are they only through March and why do they look like what we saw from FHAL?
thats strange. they are for march 2006 tho?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: thats strange. they are for march 2006 tho?
Aren't they suppose to be?
Posted by SYGY on :
looks the same just audited!!!
Posted by betting babe on :
me confusededed Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Where does it say its audited?
Posted by SYGY on :
i run a business and i can pretty much show what i wan't on financials,,,so doesn't mean much
Posted by SYGY on :
arn't these on the website CVSU as audited??
Posted by milliam on :
Hmmm, I think I'm seeing something for the lemon to pick on.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
On CVSU website it does say the financials are audited, not the ones on yahoo finance, but what firm audited them?
Posted by SYGY on :
that has never been said!
Posted by SYGY on :
atleast we are seeing some movement in info so things are being processed
Posted by betting babe on :
those financials have been on the cvsu website for ages. and the link always said 'audited' there.
maybe they are just posting them for reference, for when they post the UPDATED AUDITED financials.
maybe.
false alarm, everyone go back to your weekend, nothing to see here folks
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL BB... all is good! enjoy your weekend all!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: If these are the audited financials for FHAL and if I'm reading this right they look pretty bankrupt. Isn't this exactly what Rufus needed to show to enact that IRS code 368? If I am off on this please correct me.
When I checked the CVSU.US website Thurdsay last, the financials page did not say audited anywhere on it when displayed....also I believe that the display of the B/S and Income Statement referred to FHAL....Now it says Conversion Solutions Inc..... My observation is that CSHD is continuing to update their website however they can not be finished as the home page still refers to the old ticker symbol of CSHC, which we know is no longer valid..... Also, I did not find any Balance Sheet data on the yahoo finance page, so if you look at just the income expense statement, things look pretty dismmal as the quarter endding numbers for March show a loss. But the B/S shows a sizable position of $843 million in assests with a debt position of $40 million, so you might conclude the combined company of CSHD is not heavily leveraged. My question (to anyone) is if these "audited" f/s's are of the merged entities of FHAL and COnversion Solutions? (I have only been tracking this play for a month.) ......And with the changes being made to the website with audited f/s, this suggests the information that would be seen in the 10Q is there, and as such, I'd expect that the 10Q is not too far away. Has anyone found anything concrete on when the 10Q is supposed to be released, or if already released where it can be reviewed.
GLTA
Posted by wallymac on :
I think the confusion here is that the 10Q for March have been out for a while. What we are truly awaiting is the 10K. The 10K will represent the combined figures for both companies. If I remember correctly the Fiscal year ended June 30th therefore the reason a 10K and not 10Q is due. Hope this helps.
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
This brings me back to something I posted early last week and Rufus touched on in PalTalk the other night. Since the DTC has not received nor released any shares of CSHD what was trading this past week? Shares that at this point in time do not exist. Everyone who sold shares into the market by calling in their order could be in danger here. I know when I called Scottrade they told me I could sell but would be creating a short position. It was enough for me to not place any type of order at any price. My thought of course was to place the order in the $10 to $15 range just to be safe and secure profits. Upon reflection the thought occurred to me that if I did that I could still possibly have to cover at a higher level. Using my best judgement told me it wasn't worth taking the chance.
Can anyone tell me how all the shares that were bought and sold can be covered IF CSHD and the DTC decide that those shares need to be cleared up before the trading of CSHD shares can begin trading? What affect COULD that have on the reset.
The more I have thought about the whole scenario playing out here the more I am seeing that this whole thing is and has been a setup to expose and trap the naked shorting of stocks on the OTCBB. The short position on FHAL was reportedly 15M shares, most agree that it is much higher than reported. Add to that the action of the past week and my estimate is there are at minimum another 5M shares short. So the true short position COULD conceivably be 20 to 60M shares. If they were forced to cover at $15 from the $1 range we are talking about anywhere from 20M X $14= $280M to 60M X $14= $840M. CSHD will have approximately 80M shares in the treasury that can be issued. If they issue those shares they would gain the $840M dollars at which point they could return both the Bond and UCC note and have $840M minus whatever interest they pay. Pure speculation but something to think about.
GLTA Wally
Posted by 4Given on :
talking about a short position, at bloomberg . com, conversion solutions has a float of 37 million, I thought the float was already gone, but, cshd did put more shares on the market,, right?? meaning the short position would be covered by the company, so we do not benefit from the short position. any thoughts ???
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
The shorts will still have to cover. CSHD didn't put any more shares on the market - the trading right now (or since the symbol change) is on invisible shares...meaning that if you sold CSHD you have created a short position that may have to be covered at $15 ! YIKES.
Anyway the CVSU shares will be put in, agreed, however those are restricted from what I understand so the trading CSHD float will be the old FHAL float which I thought was around 24 million, with 16 million short ? I may be off here but that's what I get from my DD.
Who the hell realy knows, we're all get back on the rollercoaster Monday morning, fun times at the amusement park that is the OTCBB, lol.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: talking about a short position, at bloomberg . com, conversion solutions has a float of 37 million, I thought the float was already gone, but, cshd did put more shares on the market,, right?? meaning the short position would be covered by the company, so we do not benefit from the short position. any thoughts ???
No they have not. I have no idea how old Bloomberg's info is but the last guesstimate I know of was that the tradable float was around 23M.
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: The shorts will still have to cover. CSHD didn't put any more shares on the market - the trading right now (or since the symbol change) is on invisible shares...meaning that if you sold CSHD you have created a short position that may have to be covered at $15 ! YIKES.
Anyway the CVSU shares will be put in, agreed, however those are restricted from what I understand so the trading CSHD float will be the old FHAL float which I thought was around 24 million, with 16 million short ? I may be off here but that's what I get from my DD.
Who the hell realy knows, we're all get back on the rollercoaster Monday morning, fun times at the amusement park that is the OTCBB, lol.
I posted pretty close to your post. But when I last talked to the Transfer Agent the Float was between 23 and 24 Million shares. IMO, those holding the old FHAL shares aren't really on a roller coaster since all the trading activity last week and this comming week until the DTC releases shares of CSHD are phantom shares.
All I can say is this is going to get more interesting by the minute. How will it end up. I HAVE NO IDEA! But I will be watching. I still hold a position here and find this whole thing to be intriguing to say the least.
GLTA Wally
Posted by T e x on :
I'm *still* watching, too
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: talking about a short position, at bloomberg . com, conversion solutions has a float of 37 million, I thought the float was already gone, but, cshd did put more shares on the market,, right?? meaning the short position would be covered by the company, so we do not benefit from the short position. any thoughts ???
No they have not. I have no idea how old Bloomberg's info is but the last guesstimate I know of was that the tradable float was around 23M.
GLTA Wally
Just trying to understand this. The cshd would have to be updated, because they just came online this week with the new ticker change.
We are all going to make out really well after all this anyway, just learning as I go, being a newbie and all.
Posted by SYGY on :
i own shares of both fhal and cshd !! your saying flipping cshd not a good idea? already been there done that!!!wouldn't TD be responsible? they sold them in the first place!!
Posted by silver2gold on :
Good post wallymac, I think your right on. I think the first time I heard Rufus speak on *** he said all investors should call for there certs and this really got everyone confused. Now as time goes on the Rufus & Ben plan comes in to focus, or in this case the MASTER PLAN and now we can start to see why he said that. I would think a few people are going to lose big time and I won't feel sorry for them at all. This should be one very interesting and exciting times for all longs and I'm sure glad to be one.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sygy...I haven't flipped them yet...but I own both the old shares and some of the new...the way that I understand it is that as long as we don't sell..."we" haven't shorted...I'm interested in finding out what will happen with the ones "i hold"...but since you sold.."flipped" I don't know...
Wow..the plot thickens...
Posted by T e x on :
"Wow..the plot thickens..."
lol...
Posted by portman on :
SYGY...if you sold your previous FHAL or CSHD since the symbol switch you have shorted those shares since you do not have the certs for those shares to cover them. Now if those certs arrive before you have to cover you are fine. If not you have to cover. Talk to your broker to verify.
I own both at this time and have not sold any to avoid that situation.
Basically once the symbol changed we all had to hold to avoid a short.
Next week is going to be a very interesting week.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sygy...I haven't flipped them yet...but I own both the old shares and some of the new...the way that I understand it is that as long as we don't sell..."we" haven't shorted...I'm interested in finding out what will happen with the ones "i hold"...but since you sold.."flipped" I don't know...
Wow..the plot thickens...
That's exactly my point 10. As long as you haven't sold or bought on margin under CSHD you should be fine. Anyone who has sold could be in for a surprise. That's the whole reason for my post. One thing that was very different this time than with what happened with PAIV is that everyone who sold was being informed that they ran the risk of being short. It is no longer the broker's fault because they warned you. See what I'm getting at? TD Ameritrade learned their lesson. People are being warned. I'll just give you the appropriate Dirty Harry Quote: " Do you feel lucky? Well do you?"
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "Wow..the plot thickens..."
lol...
I resemble that comment for some reason.
GLTA Wally
Posted by SYGY on :
havn't been warned of anthing by TD!!i purchased and sold via my online cash account 15000 fhal which i still have! bought--7000 shares cshd and sold 5000 for a gain and stil have 2000 cshd in acount over weekend!! any thoughts on this????never had to phone in! to buy or sell
Posted by wallymac on :
I posted because I think we need to look at this from all angles. When we invest we look at risk VS reward. Well people need to actually look at the short term reward VS the long term risk on this. I'm am NOT stating that everything Rufus and company is stating is true but we all need to understand the reprecussion if they know something we don't. At this point we stand to lose what we have invested but if it turns out they found a loophole and are attempting to burn Naked Shorts, I for one would not want to be in that position. At this point all I cant lose is the 2+K in additional profits and find the possibility of losing 14 to 15 times that unacceptable. Just want everyone here to think about it. Discuss and debate it while their is still time and then make the decision that best fits your situation.
GLTA Wally
Posted by glassman on :
short sellers often think they are shooting fish in a barrel....
this one could be real interesting...
BUT?
as wally said? nothing is for sure...
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: havn't been warned of anthing by TD!!i purchased and sold via my online cash account 15000 fhal which i still have! bought--7000 shares cshd and sold 5000 for a gain and stil have 2000 cshd in acount over weekend!! any thoughts on this????never had to phone in! to buy or sell
I'm guessing and only guessing that you will be OK it's the ones who sold shares they owned in FHAL who could be at risk. However that being said, I suggest you called TD Ameritrade Monday morning or at the earliest possible time and discuss this situation with them. they have the control. the one thing I have learned over the years is CYA(Cover Your #SS).
GLTA Wally
Posted by portman on :
SYGY...I would call TDA and be sure. That is the only way.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: SYGY...I would call TDA and be sure. That is the only way.
What do they say, Great minds think alike or is it insane minds think alike. I always get that confused.
Don't mind me now I think I just went over the limit with this post, as far as drinks and posts go. So take everything from this post on with a big grain(of alcohol} of salt.
GTLA Wally
Posted by SYGY on :
OK just got off the phone with a TD representitive and was very informed!!!allthough he could not tell me if i could actually sell my old shares via phone because TD's system is down till sunday evening!(not that i plan on selling those till atleast 50$ anyways) But as for the current cshd shares are a go!!you can buy them via phone or electronically doesn't matter same if you sell them doesn't matter THEY ARE YOUR SHARES EITHER WAY!!!i say and i repeat THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SHORT THIS STOCK IS WITH A MARGIN ACCOUNT .AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET CAUGHT WITH THIS STOCK IS IF YOU SHORT IT!!! i'm no shorter but the TD guy said this is how it is done you margin (through your margin account only)the stock(has to be on an up tick,,,,the last trade has to be positive in nature than you place your short trade that within a certain time the stock will go down' if this works out for the shorter,then they can actually buy the stock at this lower price!! IN NO WAY BY BUYING OR SELLING CSHD OR EVEN FLIPPING IT 100 TIMES WILL AN INVESTER OR TRADER BE RESPONSIBLE!!IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!!!!!!ONLY THOSE WITH A MAGIN ACCOUNT THAT ARE SHORTING RUN THE CHANCE!!!if there are ghost shares being traded ,,the broker will be reeponsible not US!!!!GTLA!!!!do not get scared into selling !!!if your a shorter,,GOOD LUCK ON THIS ONE CAUSE YOUR GONNA LOOSE!!!
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: OK just got off the phone with a TD representitive and was very informed!!!allthough he could not tell me if i could actually sell my old shares via phone because TD's system is down till sunday evening!(not that i plan on selling those till atleast 50$ anyways) But as for the current cshd shares are a go!!you can buy them via phone or electronically doesn't matter same if you sell them doesn't matter THEY ARE YOUR SHARES EITHER WAY!!!i say and i repeat THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SHORT THIS STOCK IS WITH A MARGIN ACCOUNT .AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET CAUGHT WITH THIS STOCK IS IF YOU SHORT IT!!! i'm no shorter but the TD guy said this is how it is done you margin (through your margin account only)the stock(has to be on an up tick,,,,the last trade has to be positive in nature than you place your short trade that within a certain time the stock will go down' if this works out for the shorter,then they can actually buy the stock at this lower price!! IN NO WAY BY BUYING OR SELLING CSHD OR EVEN FLIPPING IT 100 TIMES WILL AN INVESTER OR TRADER BE RESPONSIBLE!!IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!!!!!!ONLY THOSE WITH A MAGIN ACCOUNT THAT ARE SHORTING RUN THE CHANCE!!!if there are ghost shares being traded ,,the broker will be reeponsible not US!!!!GTLA!!!!do not get scared into selling !!!if your a shorter,,GOOD LUCK ON THIS ONE CAUSE YOUR GONNA LOOSE!!!
Were you talking to a rep in Canada? Becusae what you have reported may only apply to people in Canada> Just trying to cover all the bases not trying to say your info is wrong.
I am not trying to get anybody to buy sell or SHORT this stock or any other for that matter.
GLTA Wally
Posted by SYGY on :
TORONTO!! BUT WHY WOULD RULES BE DIFERENT!!?
Posted by wallymac on :
Becase they are
Posted by SYGY on :
what do they say for you that is different than canadian?
Posted by wallymac on :
It is easier for people in Canada and overseas to SHORT a stock then for people in the U.S.
Posted by SYGY on :
TD guy said they were pretty strict here on shorting,,,had to confirm borrowing of shares??on shorts!!
Posted by SYGY on :
gotta get some sleep!!see ya later!
Posted by djg7 on :
I called TDAmeritrade in Friday and a rep said I could even sell my shares. She also indicated that the CSHD symbol would be listed on Monday at which point the shares could be traded. I'll be out of town on Monday so it won't matter either way. It's a good thing that I get my car parked during the symbol change. Still holding this until a pr comes out.
Posted by dog on :
I have a margin account.... but did not buy FHAL on margin at any time. It is my understanding that Scottrade can loan out these shares because I purchased them with a margin account. However... these are still my shares and Scottrade has to recover them for me no matter what correct? If I sell these shares in my portfolio.. it doesn't matter if someone else has them in shorts correct? I should still benefit as usual because I'm the original shareholder. Scottrade officials did warn me that if I currently bought and sold CSHD stock, that I run the risk of shorting until the symbol/shares transfer was complete.. and as a U.S. trader, I would be solely responsible for this... not Scottrade. It is different in foreign countries I do believe.
Posted by glassman on :
for people that have questions about how clearing works?
Holy Canoli - All I can about this is that somebody is gonna get hurt really bad. If I had to place a bet right now it would shorty.
Posted by SYGY on :
DOG i would check ,and talk to another person at Scotttrade? if you bought or sold the responsibility should be thiers!! it makes sense that only the shorters will get heck<<<<all other trades should be fine,,the TD guy said all that i've posted is the same in U.S.!
Posted by dog on :
Cool...no worries then. Everything should be straight after DTC converts all the shares and everybody is on the same page.
Posted by SYGY on :
yes that will be agood day when all is transfered!!i would still call and confirm!!i would not wan't to mislead you in anyway!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Cool...no worries then. Everything should be straight after DTC converts all the shares and everybody is on the same page.
This is true!!!!
But do you think it will happen Monday???
Posted by dog on :
Monday or Tuesday... the DTC deadline is Monday 8-14
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Let the games begin!! Posted by SYGY on :
Rufus was just on pal talk! did not say muchjust looking mainly! then left
Posted by SYGY on :
he's back!! right now!!
Posted by SYGY on :
cshd traders lounge might actually be BEN
Posted by SYGY on :
HEY GROOP! I NEED INFO ON EUROCLEAR BOND 500 MILLION that we saw i beleive on old FHAL thread!!2-3weeks ago!!it had link to bond and CVSU's involvement in the actual BOND!!!! please post your info and i'll check back!!!thank you !
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Heres the old FHAL thread. I'll look for a little bit.
SYGY...what are you looking for?
Posted by SYGY on :
big time hassel on pal talk!!!i told them that the bond link was posted here some time ago!with cvsu involvement on the bond as was discussed here then got really slammed there for it!
Posted by SYGY on :
they would like to see the link and info that was tossed around here!! and i can't seem to find it !
Posted by SYGY on :
500 million bond at 13.6 % annual interest i believe
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: big time hassel on pal talk!!!i told them that the bond link was posted here some time ago!with cvsu involvement on the bond as was discussed here then got really slammed there for it!
be sure to post the bond info (link) here again in this thread OK?
Posted by SYGY on :
looking!!!i'm sure i'm not the only one that saw it!!!!
Posted by sceptor on :
I remember thats why I asked for you to repost it here. I also remember a post validating the bond on bloomberg as well.
Posted by SYGY on :
i'ma looking through those damn 200plus pages in old thread
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Here's the assets from the July 11th 8-k:
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS, INC. (A Development Stage Company) Balance Sheet As of March 31 2006
ASSETS:
Current Assets
Cash & Cash Equivalents $ 9,146
Interest Recivable $ 33,125,000 $
Total Current $ 33,134,146
Other Assets
Stables $ 277,000
UCC Security Notes $ 310,138,000
Total Other Assets $ 310,415,000
Long-Term Assets
Long-term Investment in Bonds $ 500,000,000
(see footnote)
TOTAL ASSETS $ 843,549,146
Posted by betting babe on :
2006-04-28 10:28:33 Conversion Solutions announces $500 million investment Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group
KENNESAW, Ga., /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU) announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.
CVSU would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group. The funding agreement brings 500 Million United States Dollar denominated Global, Bonds on the Republic of Venezuela with a 13.625% annual coupon, to CVSU's financials. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system with the following codes:
ISIN Number: US922646AT10
Common Code: 008975540
CUSIP: 922646AT1
BB Registration: A-989/08/01 to A-989/08/19
The bond also trades under symbol (VEZD) on the Deutsche Borse Frankfort market.
"We have been working diligently toward Hypothecation of the Bonds for liquidly. We have received written pre-approval for a credit line on the bonds and are in the final phases of execution. This process is very important to the launch of CVSU's business model for the funding of the projects and Asset Backed Security (ABS) origination," stated Ben F. Stanley, COO.
"The Board of directors has decided to complete the Credit facility prior to filing the SB-2; we feel that the addition of this asset is beneficial to the shareholders value," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
dot dot dot....
----------------------------------
REPUBLIC OF VENEZUE 13.6250 15/08/18 US922646AT10 008975540 13.625 USD 06 Aug 1998 15 Aug 2006 14 Aug 2006 G BOND 31 Jul 1998
Euroclear sitr posted above. 13.625 is the interest rate
i just knew we saw it!!it seem's not many others have seen it though!!! thank you BB and this is still my favorite place !!!gtla!!this week we fly!!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Schwab has not updated my shares yet.
Posted by SYGY on :
NOW FOR ALL THE BASHING I TOOK ON PAL-TALK !!!F-OFF!!!!! we here at allstocks don't f-around thanks to some purely superb poeple who can actually be asked and can give an answer REALTIME!!! thanks team!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
BB i owe you one!!! thanks again!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Pal Talk is just crazy, just like Ihub - stay away from both imo
Posted by betting babe on :
ur welcome, just a good memory of where i see stuff.
btw, iHub is actually bashing their own moderators this evening LOL
hey, did anyone ever notice that Arnie Epps who has a few of the CVSU sub's urls registered in his name is also a producer for clear channel radio?
CVSU would also like to announce Mr. Arnie A. Epps as Publicist for the Corporation. Mr. Epps is a current Director for Clear Channel Radio.
he was added when rocky roads records and brittenum brothers were added as subs.
like i said? a sweet genius and purtty too...
Posted by SYGY on :
how do you think cshd will play out this week? opinions day by day!!i think monday nothing tuesday pr then wed 10k and halt!!but only guessing
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Honestly I have no idea. I'm just going to hold my shares and check every hour during the trading session. I do believe this week will be the defining one though.
Posted by betting babe on :
thx glass
i expect to see some action starting tuesday, into wednesday. as in our shares showing up, maybe a lil PR pump. i think they'll give monday +48 hours for settlement.
i have to work tomorrow, so im hoping for quietness.
speaking of working tomorrow... g'nite all!
~BB
[ August 14, 2006, 01:20: Message edited by: betting babe ]
Posted by portman on :
As of 6a. No share changes at TDA. FHAL still N/A.
Posted by mathis on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: As of 6a. No share changes at TDA. FHAL still N/A.
Same with Scottrade, FHAL#
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by mathis:
quote:Originally posted by portman: As of 6a. No share changes at TDA. FHAL still N/A.
Same with Scottrade, FHAL#
I sent an email to strade the other day but received no reponse. That's a little strange not to get anything back from them.
Posted by Porkchop Jihad on :
Does anyone else using E-Trade still have "35904R103" in theur Portfolio where it should say "CSHD"?? Just wondering? Keeping my fingers crossed for a pretty productive week ahead. Just hope E-Trade doesn't drop the ball on this one.
Posted by dog on :
I thought I would awake to some CSHD shares on Scottrade... but I was mistaken Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yep no new shares here yet either ~
Posted by dog on :
So most likely another day of no action...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well.... The "check is in the mail" so to speak, so it's just a wait.
I can handle that ~
Posted by dog on :
Scottrade was polite enough to warn me that I ran the risk of shorting the CSHD stock if I traded it.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Dog... I was told that also. that's why I haven't flipped in a while. Don't want to risk screwing something up ~
Judging by the volume I think others are doing the same, IMO.
I do believe that things will go as planned, the only if that I have is what will happen after the reset, the more people check into things, the more I'm hearing people want to hold past $15 after taking a little "cush." Think that's what I'm going to do myself.
Posted by dog on :
We are all coming to the same conclusion in the end I believe... if this deal goes thru, it's bigger than we originally thought. Plus with the short buying pressure . . who knows?
Posted by dog on :
If we all held on like grim death... I know the PPS would rise... tough to coordinate though... hehe
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm sure Rufus and company are going over that right now. With him comparing our stock with Google has to be a good sign... Google did open and then doubled in price it's first day after it's IPO didn't it?! And Google came out at $100.00 I believe too!
I just don't see how if someone buys in at a dollar that you can lose money on this one. But that's JMO ~
Posted by dog on :
Got to be worth at least a dollar on this one...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning everyone. The DTC's deadline was today correct. So I imagine the certs could get to the brokers at anytime today. This week should be interesting to say the least.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hello all...I am a little concerned that when this is actually tradable with the old shares...there could be a "large" sell off from people that have gotten "impatient" and leary...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hello all...I am a little concerned that when this is actually tradable with the old shares...there could be a "large" sell off from people that have gotten "impatient" and leary...
Let them sell.....
Posted by SYGY on :
morning
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I guess it's possible. I also think when people take a step back and see that everything that's been said was going to be done has been done. The timeline has just been off. I think investors can take the time line being off but traders can't
Posted by 10of13 on :
Just stated that opinion so some wouldn't get overly scared and panic sell...Looking' forward to what this week shall bring....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
With a dried up float, people holding and flippers gone this is going to be a sleeper till payday ~
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by Porkchop Jihad: Does anyone else using E-Trade still have "35904R103" in theur Portfolio where it should say "CSHD"?? Just wondering? Keeping my fingers crossed for a pretty productive week ahead. Just hope E-Trade doesn't drop the ball on this one.
I still have that too. However, at least it now shows pps and the number of shares.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I like the calm... it is relaxing. But remember don't fall asleep. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I have 35904R103 too. Not worried about it though.
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Porkchop Jihad: Does anyone else using E-Trade still have "35904R103" in theur Portfolio where it should say "CSHD"?? Just wondering? Keeping my fingers crossed for a pretty productive week ahead. Just hope E-Trade doesn't drop the ball on this one.
Yes.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning to all! ... gone all weekend ... good to be home. Looks to me like we have 2 basic fundamental items to iron out.
First, we have the clearing of the shorts and second, getting our accounts balanced out and ready to trade.
I suspect that, if I was a short, I would be watching to see if there is going to be any pullback to buy to cover my short position. As there hasn't been such this am so far, I would still watch and see for a opportunity to do so.
If the pps slowly but steadilly rises, then we could start to see some increased buying to cover taking the pps up. The faster it starts to move, the more panic to cover may set in. It could become a rocket, kind of like when you try to catch (chase) a stock you want in on it.
This is what I expect to see. Could be today, depending on how firm the 8/14 date is for shorts to have to cover. GLTA!
PS, Las Vegas sounds good. With this group, anywhere would be cool!
Posted by bloodykitten on :
Called Schwab, they said that my FHAL is get changed today or tonight and CSHD will be posted for opening tomarrow.
Posted by SYGY on :
picked up 500 at 1.07 and 4500 at 1.08
Posted by SYGY on :
hope to see a gradual climb! if not oh well ,i'll maybe buy a few more on dips! don't wanna get caught if she run's
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Wow... what a "barn burner" LOL ~
But it is a good sign! Posted by SherriT on :
OK, all - I wasn't upset about the wait - I've learned patience, but would you believe of all days that if everything does go down tomorrow morning, I have kindergarten orientation, and will MISS the first hour of the market :-(
Maybe we will just run it up today and I won't care ;-)
Posted by betting babe on :
wow Sherri, you're just entering kindergarten and already trading. kids these days, they grow up so fast. heah
good morning everybodies!
i predict a quiet day. or at least i hope for one cuz i gotta get to work.
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Exciting chart today!! Hold me back!! Posted by RyanPBF on :
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Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I'm thinking 'bout putting a limit buy order in at $1.02. Seems every day the PPS goes up, then down to about a buck, then back up to close to where it started. Will today be any different without a PR???
Someone else mentioned that it really looks as if somebody (Rufus?) is trying very hard to keep the PPS over $1.00. May sound odd but the chart doesn't lie.
Posted by showme$ on :
do you guys know a website where i can get the lattest news on penny stocks?
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by showme$: do you guys know a website where i can get the lattest news on penny stocks?
*********.com: Morning Updates for Monday, August 14,2006 - While One Company Announces Date of Second Quarter Earnings Release Another Receives Purchase Orders
By M2 Last Update: 8/14/2006 7:03:29 AM The Furia Organization, Inc. (CSHD) - Friday's shares went up 1.80% to $1.06 with a total of 566,510 shares traded. On July 31, Conversion Solutions, Inc. updates its shareholders to the effect that, the Fronthaul Group has received a new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau. The old CUSIP number of 361060 20 5 was replaced by CUSIP number 35904V 10 4, the ISIN number is US 35904v1044. Additionally, a corporate name change is currently under discussion with NASDAQ officials, there may need to be a trading acronym change, in any event the company will update shareholders as the discussions progress.
The Furia Organization, Inc. is located in Rockwall, Texas, and expects to grow its business specifically in the areas of distribution of flatbed, dry van and refrigerated loads. The Company is the only referral based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 700 registered members. For additional information about The Furia Organization, Inc., visit us on the Internet at http://www.fronthaul.com. Posted by milliam on :
Ok, if these guys are going to give out "updates", shouldn't they at least research the company they are updating???
Sure puts into light the worth of some of these "news" services or whatever they call them selfs.
BTW, that's s t o c k g u r u
Posted by SYGY on :
agree with you Milliam
Posted by casviper on :
Where' the VOLUME?????
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: wow Sherri, you're just entering kindergarten and already trading. kids these days, they grow up so fast. heah
good morning everybodies!
i predict a quiet day. or at least i hope for one cuz i gotta get to work.
~BB
I know, huh?
Actually, I probably will teach her to trade once she understands the value of a $1. I'm going to be sure she can take care of herself and not depend on anyone....
Of course, if this does well, and she gets her pool, she may be interested in learning sooner - LOL!
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
won't this thing drag out if there are not enough shares to cover? maybe that's what mr harris was alluding to in the *** interwiew with the 2-3 month window. there gonna be short a significant amount (good for us!) and when the frenzy settles still be short. any thoughts?
Posted by portman on :
Well, I will admit my 3 and 5 yr olds wanted me to be FHAL around .12 ...I didn't listen. Posted by mothra on :
I called the TA this morning. She said the O/S is 97mil and Float is 25mil.. Only the O/S increased. I asked why it increased and she said because the number includes the CVSU shares. Does this mean the S-4 will be out shortly??
Sidenote: The lady also said she owns shares in Wells Fargo and can't trade also.
Posted by godzirra on :
there you are i've been hunting all over for you...
prepare to meet your doom mothra...
Posted by mothra on :
hahha....I like the screen name...you can't say the l's
Posted by dog on :
Hey the CSHD trader's lounge on Paltalk... room does not exist... they took it down
Posted by dog on :
This thing won't break 300,000 volume today LOL
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, its become rather......boring.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Yea, its become rather......boring.
Thanks...have a good weekend. Oh, wait, that video really confused me. No volume, hmmm, no sellers?
Posted by Hannibull on :
i just received my shares now at TD Ameritrade Posted by GlassCrasher on :
same here hannibull
Posted by RyanPBF on :
ditto
Posted by Sandusky on :
Mine are there as well...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Me too.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Etrade still taking their sweet time
Posted by SYGY on :
same mr.catiaengineer
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
40 MMs on the bid. Has it been that high the past week or so?
Posted by SYGY on :
how many on ask?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
41 on ask, delayed L2 is all i have however
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like we might see some more action once everyone gets their certs. I guess people were waiting to be able to flip this???
Posted by SYGY on :
what link do you use?for level2
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
ARCA on the bid X 1.055
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm showing 45 on the ask and 44 on the bid
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: what link do you use?for level2
Im using the link from the CVSU site.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Is Ameritrade the only new one to transfer over to the new shares?
Posted by portman on :
TDA has transferred.
Posted by portman on :
44 on bid 45 on ask per TDA L2's
Posted by 10of13 on :
Choicetrade hasn't...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just put all of my shares up for sale. Before everyone jumps on me I set them at $500. I know we'll never get there but it was nice to see what that order would be worth. I've heard different views on this but hopefully it will prevent my shares from being borrowed.
Posted by SherriT on :
Scottrade hasn't either...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
bid is above the ask
Posted by dog on :
What's ARCA doing?
Posted by dog on :
ARCA buyin it up
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Sitting on bid X 1.055 on ask X 1.078
Posted by dog on :
Anyone else watching the level II's?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Yup, 2 10k buys
Posted by dog on :
I got 4 here in last 10 minutes
Posted by 10of13 on :
I called choicetrade..and they said that these are completely tradable and have been for the past week...they told me that there were no issues what so ever as far as me shorting or anything else...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
It seems like everyone is getting different stories about that 10. From what most people were saying they believed that all the shares being traded of cshd were phantom shares?
Posted by Synastar on :
CSHD showing as FURIA ORGANIZATION INC now on etrade. Did they do another name change? I thought that was their name before FrontHaul?
Posted by dog on :
I have heard it so many different ways now... don't know what's right... so I'm sittin tight til my FHAL shares turn to CSHD in Scottrade, who by the way warned me that any buy and sells could possibly result in a short position and that Scottrade would not be held responsible, and that she just had to warn me about that first. Dunno, seemed like she was sure of herself at the corporate office.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Scottrade is in the money! CSHD, shares count and balances available! Yes!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: It seems like everyone is getting different stories about that 10. From what most people were saying they believed that all the shares being traded of cshd were phantom shares?
According to both the etrade and choicetrade reps that I spoke to...unless we have been notified that WE CAN NOT sell these shares or they are restircted in some way...then there is not a problem...the TA has "released" these for trading according to both of the reps i spoke to...
Sorry..but I can't help but wonder if the other places/brokers that were mentioned earlier...aren't the ones that might have had a "short" problem...and so advised that the share holders not sell...until that particular broker could get the shares to cover...Just a thought...
Posted by SherriT on :
I can confirm - my Scottrade is showing everything in CSHD as well ;-)
Now if I can just get through Kindergarten orientation in the morning - MAN, WHAT TIMING!
Posted by skip on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I called choicetrade..and they said that these are completely tradable and have been for the past week...they told me that there were no issues what so ever as far as me shorting or anything else...
yep, I have choicetrade, and all 50 of my shares show as CSHD and are freely tradeable...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Is there anyone who does NOT have CSHD, values, etc. in your account?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
E*Trade still a no go...
Posted by cool AZ on :
I'm feeling again people! Things are progressing ... this phase will be close to an end when we ALL have correct CSHD info in our accounts.
As I recall? ... on paltalk ... Rufus said he would not change the price untill we ALL could trade it. And, then I believe he said something about coming out in one swoop with the 10k and the pps change. A super GLTA!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Schwab has still not updated. They told me tonight or tomorrow morning, they are pretty old school and take time. They did warn me not to sell any shares until I see the change as that could create a short position.
There are a lot more brokers out that may take more time for this to get done, we may not reset tomorrow. Patience young Jedi's !
Posted by cassity on :
I'm a scottrader and my shares are good to go! GLTA
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Fidelity, Scottrade, and Choicetrade all settled and ready for me.
Posted by cool AZ on :
All we know at this time is that we are progressing in the right direction ... we will see what happens once all people get the correct account information. It is my understanding that all accounts should be updated within a reasonably quick time frame ... could be another day or 2 yet ... we'll see!
Posted by luvforever on :
Ok scottrade here and good to go too!!!!!! lol Posted by cool AZ on :
FYI: Check out the mad man Kramer tonite on CNBC ... seems to make some good points that coincide in a good way with what we are doing here.
Posted by SYGY on :
td waterhouse through webroker still not a go!!but did pick up 5000 more today
Posted by 4Given on :
etrade a no go, lowtrades - good to go........
Posted by wallymac on :
Scottrade account is updated. There are no restrictions. These are the shares and are free trading. Now we await the 10K SB4, halt and reset. Looks like this is the week.
GLTA Wally
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Jesus it's warzone again over at Ihub, looks like Bud just can't stay away, lol. There is more BS over there than Kansas cattle farm.
Well gents and ladies, see ya tommorrow, I'll check my Schwab account when I get up and let you know if they have changed over my shares yet.
Posted by dog on :
Nite Smelly...
Posted by unclerudy on :
Figured that I would do a little DD into the JV's and subs of CSHD, and did a little bit of a whois search on lotteryfever.com and loanshopper.com. Here is what I found...
Domain Name: CVSU.US Domain ID: D7912282-US Sponsoring Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: 39096528 Registrant Name: Songwi Trust Registrant Organization: Songwi Trust Registrant Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Registrant City: Adairsville Registrant State/Province: GA Registrant Postal Code: 30103 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Country Code: US Registrant Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Registrant Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Registrant Email: no.valid.email*worldnic.com Registrant Application Purpose: P1 Registrant Nexus Category: C32/US Administrative Contact ID: 39096528 Administrative Contact Name: Songwi Trust Administrative Contact Organization: Songwi Trust Administrative Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Administrative Contact City: Adairsville Administrative Contact State/Province: GA Administrative Contact Postal Code: 30103 Administrative Contact Country: United States Administrative Contact Country Code: US Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Administrative Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Administrative Contact Email: no.valid.email*worldnic.com Administrative Application Purpose: P1 Administrative Nexus Category: C32/US Billing Contact ID: 39096529 Billing Contact Name: Rufus Harris Billing Contact Organization: Conversion Solutions, Inc. Billing Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Billing Contact City: Adairsville Billing Contact State/Province: GA Billing Contact Postal Code: 30103 Billing Contact Country: United States Billing Contact Country Code: US Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Billing Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Billing Contact Email: harris*cvsu.us Technical Contact ID: 39096528 Technical Contact Name: Songwi Trust Technical Contact Organization: Songwi Trust Technical Contact Address1: P.O. Box 1402 Technical Contact City: Adairsville Technical Contact State/Province: GA Technical Contact Postal Code: 30103 Technical Contact Country: United States Technical Contact Country Code: US Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.6782557650 Technical Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4043939824 Technical Contact Email: no.valid.email*worldnic.com Technical Application Purpose: P1 Technical Nexus Category: C32/US Name Server: NS51.WORLDNIC.COM Name Server: NS52.WORLDNIC.COM Created by Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Last Updated by Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Domain Registration Date: Thu Jun 09 19:59:14 GMT 2005 Domain Expiration Date: Mon Jun 08 23:59:59 GMT 2015 Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 09 19:59:40 GMT 2005
>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Tue Aug 15 00:34:24 GMT 2006
Posted by unclerudy on :
I don't know if any of this means anything, but I figured that I would post this so that anyone with more knowledge on networking could do some DD with it.
Posted by kolabud on :
Okay, I've been reading the posts on this for a while. I've got some issues. First, I am holding CSHD. I would like someone to explain to me how all of the sudden the price will be "reset" to $15 a share. I'm not a trading expert, but that sounds like a reverse spilt. But that is not what is being talked about here. We are talking about a merger where once the company halts trading they will then "reset" the price to $15 pps. That would be awesome we will all make at least 15x our investment. Too good to be true, I argue yes. Then there is the talk about the shorts forced to cover to make it an even more spectacular play, doubtfull. If this were really going to happen wouldnt the big guys be all over this? Why would they just leave all of that pps gain to us penny investors? Maybe their was no issue with selling CSHD in the past couple of days (you know the talk about being cought in a short position if you sold). Maybe the people who were posting that were trying to keep people from selling. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Oh and none of that "come on people what so hard to understand" or "now you starting to get it" crap! Price prediction (remember I'm long) .57 pps 9.1.06
Posted by betting babe on :
been there, done that unclerudy. i think we exhausted the subs info last week.
however, should anyone see the CAYMAN ISLANDS info you just put up and think uhohhhhh...
check this out CAYMAN ISLAND$ COMPANY GOOD YEAH YEAH
Name Administration Inc. BVI (NAmedia) is a privately owned company based in the British Virgin Islands and the Cayman Islands. Our core business is acquiring and managing domain names for paid search (type-in traffic) and web development purposes.
If you guys are running this nice little business, doing the "right thing", how come you are hiding out in the Cayman Islands? This is our favorite. The Cayman Islands is nothing like what you hear about in the movies. We could just as easily ask, "How come YOU are hiding-out in the USA (or Canada or Europe or Australia)?" We are in the Cayman Islands because it is a great place to live. The weather is warm, the people are friendly and there is good Internet access. Everyone lives somewhere. We live here...
if you read back in this thread you will find all of the DD on the subs, their owners, their owners' lawyers, where they are located and how they are aliased.
~BB
Posted by lostone on :
another new member.. welcome
Posted by lostone on :
funny how some of these "negative" posts are from new members.. anyway, i'm scared too, but just hoping for the best =)
Posted by glassman on :
yes, lostone...
pretty strange behaviour... seeing a lot of that on this stock...
more than any two or three other stocks commbined....
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by kolabud: Okay, I've been reading the posts on this for a while.
ps- and kola, turn that frown upside down Posted by thecon00 on :
I’m new here but not new to the stock, just switched over from the useless IHub board. BIG waist of time.
BB - great find on the bond! That post was reposted tonight on IHub. I tried to DD Caracas group and Ismet Paez for over an hour and a half and have come up empty. I not concerned but you would think something of there previous existence would turn up if they are large enough to fund a 500M bond no?
BB, or anyone else find anything on them? Maybe I should be searching in Spanish? Posted by thecon00 on :
If you doubt how long I’ve been in this stock I’m on the first page (posts 1-50) of the IHub board. Got FHAL the beginning of May for an aver. of .104 a share, Still have 28600.
Do I have most of you beat?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: If you doubt how long I’ve been in this stock I’m on the first page (posts 1-50) of the IHub board. Got FHAL the beginning of May for an aver. of .104 a share, Still have 28600.
Do I have most of you beat?
Most but not the furia gang.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: If you doubt how long I’ve been in this stock I’m on the first page (posts 1-50) of the IHub board. Got FHAL the beginning of May for an aver. of .104 a share, Still have 28600.
Do I have most of you beat?
Well your first post I thought was a great start. Your second seems defensive and a little arrogant although no one has said anything in response.
I don't have many myself but X $15 is always nice for what one can afford.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Kinda curious...does anyone have a "due by date"? You know...the audited financials are going to need to be out by ??? date or I am dumping this stock?
Gotta be honest...mine has come and gone...and I find myself "lost" because this is not how I usually "play"... Just wondering...
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Kinda curious...does anyone have a "due by date"? You know...the audited financials are going to need to be out by ??? date or I am dumping this stock?
Gotta be honest...mine has come and gone...and I find myself "lost" because this is not how I usually "play"... Just wondering...
So now the plan is to follow? Just try to stay awake and play it as you understand the DD to date.
Posted by portman on :
10 no due date. I have another 2 weeks on my pain threshold. I am not too worried as I have repeatedly stated without any new provable negative data.
Posted by thecon00 on :
Sorry didn't mean to come off that way, just excited.
Posted by unclerudy on :
I believe they have until 9/30 to get out the audited financials. I am waiting until Labor day, then I will take my 200% gain that I am in at. Hopefully that will be a 3000% gain, but more than likely I will be out if nothing happens by then. But if there is more positive data, I will be holding for longer and longer. Hope that helps. Posted by P Rowds on :
kolabud... i believe this was addressed in the past about "why don't the big guys get all over this" many of the "big guys" are limited on what exchange they're allowed to trade on... how would you like to have someone put thousands of your dollars in a pink stock and you loose 50-100% in 20 min.? you'd probably quit trading with them right?
Posted by dog on :
For me the clock starts ticking when we all shares transfer, likely tomorrow... how long I'll let the clock run... not sure
Posted by dog on :
True P... big guys won't be all over this until it is off the pink sheets..
Posted by wallymac on :
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, the Company has concluded that it is the primary beneficiary of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as defined by FIN 46(R) and, therefore, will consolidate The FrontHaul Group, Inc and Conversion Solutions, Inc. financial results at the filing of the Company's Fourth quarter June 30, 2006 10KSB of fiscal 2005.
Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the Financial Statement of CVSU for the first quarter of 2006 January thru March, is attached hereto as Exhibit 9.1 and will be the starting point for the consolidated financial that will be filed for the Forth Quarter 2005 ending June 30, 2006.
I believe they have 60-90 days from that date to file the appropriate forms. So sometime between August 31 to Sept 30. Of course Rufus and Co have stated that it "should" happen by week's end.
GLTA Wally
Posted by P Rowds on :
droppin in to say hi all... nice to open my account and see progress to the "big picture" In atlanta now and in the office the whole day for the rest of the week... won't be watching this during open market all week so GL to you all... haha, you wanna talk about being distracted... goin to bed, night all
ps. sorry bettingbabe, didn't mean to open that can of worms... i think i'm gonna go single for the rest of my life now too;)
Posted by betting babe on :
Posted by dog on :
ditto....
Posted by Danny_K on :
Nice to see CSHD shares in my account, one step closer people Posted by dog on :
Nite all... back to watchin' "Swingers" and fallin' asleep.
Posted by cool AZ on :
I have to say I know people in this who are excited to make a few thousand dollars and those who are excited to make 100,s of thousands of dollars and those who may make millions.
This is not all a game as there is always someone who has more stock than another. The real game here is to learn how all this comes together ... and how well it works for each individual. Some are flippin excited to make a little extra to take the pressure off ... others are here to do much more - it's a personal thing.
The big key here (the way I see it) is to be in the game and learn all you can! Paraphrasing, don't just give one a fish, teach them how to fish. Unfortunately most of us do not have extensive funds to work with, but after one or two of these plays, you may have plenty.
I've seen plays on my watch list which have done very well recently ... I chose to be "all in" here because I believe in this stock and this board. As far as I'm concerned this board is liquid gold when it comes to knowing what is happening with any one stock.
I'm sorry kolabud, but it seems your impression here is we are heading down as you indicate your "holding". We're to think your long when you predict low future returns ... seems counterproductive to me. Oh, btw, was that long or short. And, btw, when you're in such a hurry, you spell your location "rocky mountian", I really have to wonder! GLTY.
Posted by 4Given on :
Kola, I am new to all of this too. Most of the people on this board know what they are talking about. Occasionally, you have bashers, but not all of them are. This can be a great learning tool for future stocks, as I have learned from them a great deal. Just kick back and enjoy the ride.
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
I am somewhat new to all of this and have a question on the squeeze that may be about to begin or is beginning...with the symbol change and the new certs required for this to occur, shouldn't the squeeze have been happening to acquire these certs?
I am not bashing just trying to understand...I have a ton of money in this and believe in Harris et al will be able to negotiate whatever the shorts throw at them...
I also was wondering if a company is able to choose what MM's they deal with?
any help would be appreciated
thanks tim Posted by romberry on :
People (I won't call them investors) who STILL think they are gonna suddenly get 15 bucks a share out of this scam (and it is more apparent every day that it is a scam with a capital "S") are idiots.
If you got in cheap, do yourself a favor and sell. When you look at this merger/deal, there is no "there", there.
Due diligence? What passes for "DD" here is an effin' joke.
Posted by cool AZ on :
True Romberry, most of us now believe we are heading for much more than $15. People here on this board have worked hard on excellent dd and have accumulated alot of information. So I guess you come aboard and we're just supposed to take your word and we should sell .... right!?
I would guess your purpose here is to shake the tree to: 1, cover your short position, 2, buy at a cheaper price, and/or 3, waste your time.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
seems like Etrade was one of the last to update. Well I have Etrade... My portfolio page is ready to go! No more Cusip number but everything is under CSHD! "There's somethin happening here... what it is ain't excatly clear... Everybody, Stop, now, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down." Come on Rufi... so your thing!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by romberry: People (I won't call them investors) who STILL think they are gonna suddenly get 15 bucks a share out of this scam (and it is more apparent every day that it is a scam with a capital "S") are idiots.
If you got in cheap, do yourself a favor and sell. When you look at this merger/deal, there is no "there", there.
Due diligence? What passes for "DD" here is an effin' joke.
You going to pay the difference if I sell today and it goes to $2 or $3? You got the funds to cover that?
And you're right about DD on here being a effin' joke. Look at what you brought to the "table", table.
Posted by portman on :
To the point sceptor.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, wtf happened in here?!?
Good to see all of the brokers switchin over to CSHD now. Hopefully this will push things forward a bit.
I wouldnt worry about dingleberry folks. His only purpose on this board has been negative since he came here. Id hate to speculate but im guessing he has personal reasons for posting things here, and its not because he ever held a position in FHAL.
A piece from one of his other posts.......
"I'm glad a lot of people here made a lot of profits. I don't have a dog in this hunt either way (I don't own the stock, I'm not buying the stock and I'm not involved with any person, business, institution or agency with any interest in this stock at all) but I have seen not a dang thing that leads to me to believe any of these claimed assets are at all "real". If I were in this stock, I'd be taking my profits and gladly getting out. The close today was not because of some interview that most people did not hear. The close was the sound of the pumpers becoming dumpers. It's downhill from here, baby."
Seems to me that everything is falling into place Posted by fryyguyy on :
Etrade has shares today!!! Yeah, Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice feeling having those shares!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well, the next step we can take is getting to know "How to" read a 10k so everyone can understand what they are holding
Anyone have any good links or info please post ~ Thanks in advance!
Posted by portman on :
Catia...yeah he said that on a 1.03 close day. We have been nice and stable since then.
I love 'savoirs' who come in with no play either way (supposedly) and try to save us. I admit we could be wrong here. We may never see $15 but I am confident we will make money. Profit is profit.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Mornin' everybody.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Well, the next step we can take is getting to know "How to" read a 10k so everyone can understand what they are holding
Anyone have any good links or info please post ~ Thanks in advance!
shareholder equity / O/S = Book. So those two are first on the list.
Then comes present and expected future earnings.
As for risks, anything with the word split is important.
Posted by dog on :
Mornin... check you out again when I get back from the bank. I see some bashers made it our way... hmmmm
Posted by Danny_K on :
one more quessing game for everyone..
what does everyone think will happen today with everyones new found shares in thier account?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Well, the next step we can take is getting to know "How to" read a 10k so everyone can understand what they are holding
Anyone have any good links or info please post ~ Thanks in advance!
shareholder equity / O/S = Book. So those two are first on the list.
Then comes present and expected future earnings.
As for risks, anything with the word split is important.
Thank Sceptor. I'm sure there is much to learn in the verbiage, so please feel free to talk to me like I'm 4 years old so everyone can understand (me too , after all, only a fool know's everything but a wiseman know's he has much to learn...
Thanks again Sceptor ~
Posted by portman on :
It will rise, fall or remain even as is the market's will.
Most people here have traded this responsibly. I do not see a lot (two words) of nerves on this site.
If I am making a mistake here...I will review, learn and move on to the next.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, gapping down a bit today. It looks like people have been anxious to gain control of their shares.
Posted by Vin on :
Looks like we're looking at a bit of a dip this morning.
Posted by SYGY on :
morning!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think everyone's been expecting this. Hopefully they don't wait to long to release the 10k.
Posted by ruthie on :
Any conversations with Rufus lately anyone?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Dipping down ...maybe because it seems all of the brokers have gotten the symbol changes complete....??? people are jumping...because they had to wait so long? Just a thought...
Posted by Vin on :
That's actually a good thought 10. I would think at some point people are going to be jumping on this, especially under a buck.
Posted by SYGY on :
no change here on TD!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
no reason I know of for the dip...
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Dipping down ...maybe because it seems all of the brokers have gotten the symbol changes complete....??? people are jumping...because they had to wait so long? Just a thought...
Agreed. I am looking to buy on the low part of the dip. Get scared people, help me out.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
-and right back to a buck we go Posted by portman on :
missed sub $1. Grabbed more at $1.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
gap is closing, classic...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Dipping down ...maybe because it seems all of the brokers have gotten the symbol changes complete....??? people are jumping...because they had to wait so long? Just a thought...
Agreed. I am looking to buy on the low part of the dip. Get scared people, help me out.
Not quite ready to...but good luck grabbin' some...! Posted by SYGY on :
looks like buying pressure at a buck!!!hell i bought more at 1.07 1.08 yesterday!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Morning all...jeese...I'm glad my work crisis happened when it did...I didn't seem to miss much over the last four days, lol...
The www.cvsu.us website is no longer taking people to the chart/ticker if anyone is interested...
[ August 15, 2006, 10:12: Message edited by: usedtobeaCRab ]
Posted by Vin on :
I miss the exiting days of 20 mil volume! I think 10 was right on about the dip. See what happens when you give people the right to trade stocks! They go and mess things all up. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
wow people...those L2's are hard to keep up with they're moving so fast!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: Morning all...jeese...I'm glad my work crisis happened when it did...I didn't seem to miss much over the last four days, lol...
The www.cvsu.us website is no longer taking people to the chart/ticker if anyone is interested...
I think thats a glitch. I saw it this morning and then the chart was back again. I see it now in fact.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, i stand corrected. I see the chart on the cvsu site but its no longer working. It shows the pps at 1.12
Its still linked to FHAL, they havent updated to the new symbol. Thats kinda silly.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Here's a thought...
Just like this stock bounces off of a dollar, -will it do the same at $15??????
Rufus has said that he had buyers to keep it at $15 once the reset happens...
Are we seeing what's to come?!!.....
Remember he even told his people if the share price was below $15 a share AFTER the first day of trading he would make up the difference to them in CASH?!!! Remember? I DO!!
I'm starting to believe him, can anyone think of a SOLID reason not to believe at this point???
Posted by SYGY on :
i see that too! darn chart
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Mornin! Do we all have correct account information now?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
LOL why do I get this feeling that we don't see a reset for another 60-90 days
Posted by SYGY on :
TD still shows fhal shares ----fronthaul group (the" -------" ---is a little star
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anyone notice the volume? a little low...to me it varifies the amount of shares in the float...it is moving a little sells(down) and buys(up)...IMO
People for the most part are still holding...hey Squire...or anyone...did you buy today...and if so was it done quickly? In patials? TIA
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: LOL why do I get this feeling that we don't see a reset for another 60-90 days
I believe they have too... -by Sept. 30th.
Posted by SYGY on :
Chartwalker--i think we get closer by the day to 15+ bucks ,,,but the roller ride for me with my U.S.money is one i like to watch closely!! i wish i was better at flipping this,,,could easily triple holding but i quess i'm in the same boat as many here!!! hoping the f-en boat captain leaves PORT soon!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
OH and by the way all respect for RUFUS just getting ancy to see a few bucks behind us that's all!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I hear you SYGY ~
Posted by dog on :
Action today huh? Just looked at the level II's.
Posted by cassity on :
Oh I can't wait until this is all over! Anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I hope this goes on forever I love the torture. Yeah right. I can't wait for this to be over.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Oh I can't wait until this is all over! Anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't see ARCA on the bid or ask
Posted by SYGY on :
over at i-hub they are puting sell order's at 100$ or as high as they can!! is this agood idea on this stock?
Posted by VoodooNola on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Oh I can't wait until this is all over! Anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember stressed spelled backwards is DESSERTS!
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Danny_K: one more quessing game for everyone..
what does everyone think will happen today with everyones new found shares in thier account?
Nothing, I have the same exact shares, just diff. symbol.
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
Any recent word from Rufus? I become more impatient with each passing day (I'm sure a good chunk of holders feel same).
Posted by portman on :
SGSY if TDA does not have your shares right call them.
I should have been more patient on the buy. Oh well.
Posted by portman on :
Remember ...these guys still supposedly need to cover shorts.
Posted by SYGY on :
oh i'm just patiently waiting for the transfer,,already called ! still long on this! those fhal shares are not for sale till 100$ maybe 200$ anyways have 7000 cshd to play with now!
Posted by SYGY on :
but can't really do much with this under a buck! just hold and wait or buy more!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
You can sure tell people have shares to play with today, welcome back to the yo-yo ride.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Once again watching the Edgar filings, now that I have my CSHD shares. Wondering when we will hear word on the 10K and SB-4. I am thinking it could be anytime... Anyone thinking any different?
Posted by luvforever on :
Well one thing is ...we seem to all be healthy!! LOL Posted by SYGY on :
healthy!!i think we are all CRAZY!!!! no pain no gain!!lol!lol!
Posted by luvforever on :
True, but has anyone gone to the er for heart problems? anxiety? etc??? LOL Posted by luvforever on :
maybe we should all go for counseling after this is over... if it ever ends!! This is too addictive and some may need help or we all do!! LOL Posted by dog on :
Can't get it down to to .973
Posted by dog on :
8k more at .974... that's it I'm done...not throwing any more money at this.... come on 10k!
Posted by cool AZ on :
Yes luv, maybe we should all get together after this ... only we have an understanding what we are going thru ... and, ofcourse, there will be the "desserts"!
Posted by dog on :
We're going to the Bellagio in Vegas after this! Remember?
Posted by dog on :
I'm actually partial to the "Rum Jungle" in Mandalay Bay.
Posted by Vin on :
Posted by cool AZ on :
Sounds good to me dog! ... and I do remember that possibility.
Posted by luvforever on :
after the bellagio, drunken from partyin then to counsel lol Posted by 10of13 on :
[ August 15, 2006, 12:09: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Hello everyone. Just registered here. I've been long FHAL/CSHD since July 18. I like the positive attitude compared to IHUB. GLTA
Posted by 10of13 on :
Welcome star...and GLTY!
Posted by Vin on :
Yea, I know. I'm stupid! I hit the back button and it reposted it. Sorry about that. I edited it so I didn't have to "keep" looking like a dumb *ss.
Posted by dog on :
No new news huh? I would think all certs have cleared after today... Oddly enough when I printed out the stock purchase history on my Scottrade... all came out as FHAL purchases... must be a glitch, cuz I just bought a chunk of CHSD.
Posted by dog on :
Yer right Vin.... this stock is atleast worth more than a buck post merger..... bashers doin a good job.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, I know. I'm stupid! I hit the back button and it reposted it. Sorry about that. I edited it so I didn't have to "keep" looking like a dumb *ss.
LMAO!!!!
Thats about as HONEST as you can get!! Posted by dog on :
I still feel like today or tomorrow will be last day til 10K. maybe they let it out Thursday, let everyone mull it over and reset (if they need to) on Monday.
Posted by dog on :
Wow.. see that jump? 22,0000 at 1.034
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Thank you, 10of13 - GLTY
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Yea, I know. I'm stupid! I hit the back button and it reposted it. Sorry about that. I edited it so I didn't have to "keep" looking like a dumb *ss.
LMAO!!!!
Thats about as HONEST as you can get!!
LOL..Oops sorry that I quoted it then...for all to see... Posted by dog on :
Interesting analysis of today from iHub
Posted by: Cowboy In reply to: None Date:8/15/2006 12:11:09 PM Post #of 41768
Most of these trades today are cover trades....small sells to bring the price down and then large buys to cover.
Ive been watching it all morning.
The brokerage houses that had sells called in during the symbol changeover had to sell short the stock because they did not have the shares but wanted to take care of their customers.
Now they are covering these trades today now that the symbols are correct and the DTC has released the restrictions.
We should trade back up to the same price we closed at yesterday by the end of the day. If we don't then they are not finished and we will have another day like today.
Personally I think the stock is holding up very well and once all the short trades are covered we will move up and start trading as we have been.
JMO
PS: In the mean time I am buying small lots of shares and my orders are on the bid..because I want them as cheap as I can get them while they last.
Posted by luvforever on :
Alright , now Mr. Ruffas should give some update as to when we can expect the 10k, if he knows, as he would like to be informed if he were in our shoes. Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Interesting analysis of today from iHub
Posted by: Cowboy In reply to: None Date:8/15/2006 12:11:09 PM Post #of 41768
Most of these trades today are cover trades....small sells to bring the price down and then large buys to cover.
Ive been watching it all morning.
The brokerage houses that had sells called in during the symbol changeover had to sell short the stock because they did not have the shares but wanted to take care of their customers.
Now they are covering these trades today now that the symbols are correct and the DTC has released the restrictions.
We should trade back up to the same price we closed at yesterday by the end of the day. If we don't then they are not finished and we will have another day like today.
Personally I think the stock is holding up very well and once all the short trades are covered we will move up and start trading as we have been.
JMO
PS: In the mean time I am buying small lots of shares and my orders are on the bid..because I want them as cheap as I can get them while they last.
I'm no expert by any means but when I went back a ways and examined the L2's the theory seems to make some sense. there doesn't seem to be as much selling as buying... If some of these MM's are in short and are trying to get out... they could easily be helping eachother out and pull out all there tricks to keep the price down in order to cover. Rufus is smart, the MM's aren't to dumb either. yet desipte the shorties, this stock will trade at what it's supposed to sometime (hopefully soon) but it seems like the meantime is all about the game. Just my humble opinion. No sweating here... okay, I'm alittle impatient, but I'm still holding and trusting in the DD and Rufi
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I just bought 500 more shares for the hell of it.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
This BLOWS!!!
I'm outta here....
See ya all tomorrow !!! maybe...
Later
Posted by 10of13 on :
Take care Maumee!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Good Day All, Been out for a couple of days....does anyone know what is going on with the CVSU.US website? ...This weekend the home page's graphics was titled Conversion Solutions, and now today it is saying Fronthaul again.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
......Sorry, should have included another question with pervious on that I'm wondering if it is related.....I see a news release timestamped arounf 12:18PM today which reads...."OTCBB: CSHD) The Furia Organization, Inc. is located in Rockwall, Texas, and expects to grow its business specifically in the areas of distribution of flatbed, dry van and refrigerated loads. The Company is the only referral based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 700 registered members." .... This was included in a "*********.com: The Pioneers of the STOCKUMENTARY, deliver the Movers and Shakers ****, Part 4:" posting that came up on my alerts page on Scottrade.....Is this old information witht the reference to The Furia Organization, Inc.....or is some additional name change taking place??????.. Can anyone help me understand quickly???
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: Good Day All, Been out for a couple of days....does anyone know what is going on with the CVSU.US website? ...This weekend the home page's graphics was titled Conversion Solutions, and now today it is saying Fronthaul again.
Didn't always say Fronthaul Group Inc.? I could be wrong.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
When I looked at the website on Sunday, it said Conversion Solutions where it now says Fronthaul Group Inc. on the top two lines of the stock market graphic ...."Quote Depth/LII Charts News Profile Financials Insiders Filings Historical
Fronthaul Group Inc. DL (8/15/2006 1:25 PM)" ..Pretty sure.
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: Good Day All, Been out for a couple of days....does anyone know what is going on with the CVSU.US website? ...This weekend the home page's graphics was titled Conversion Solutions, and now today it is saying Fronthaul again.
Didn't always say Fronthaul Group Inc.? I could be wrong.
Posted by new2stocks on :
I see Rufus has posted on Ihub today.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I see Rufus has posted on Ihub today.
Can you post it here?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: What did he say???
Thought you left...
Posted by new2stocks on :
Apparently responding to a o u r street statment I guess
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Why does rufas always post on Ihub...I always found that to be suspect.... He has to know that this board is a better place to talk to rational people...well.....sometimes ...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Thanks... "he" seems "grumpy today"...no "gods speed"
Posted by Sandusky on :
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Our-Str*et who wrote msg# 41739 Date:8/15/2006 1:40:26 PM Post #of 41887
A True DA you are;
This company copied CVSU; I now know who you are involved with.
We have been watching it for a while.
Got to love this one.
Joseph Cook Corporate Officer
Was involved with us at one time. He works for Duwayne Woods which was an officer of ours at one time. Ask them where they got the information from.
Another nail in your BS coffin.
Rufus Paul Harris Chairman and CEO Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC BB: CSHD) 125 TownPark Drive Suite 300 Kennesaw, Georgia 30144 Office: 770-420-8270 Fax: 404-393-9824 Harrris*cshd.us www.cvsu.us Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Why does rufas always post on Ihub...I always found that to be suspect.... He has to know that this board is a better place to talk to rational people...well.....sometimes ...
Well Maumee...why don't you email him and ask him to come for a visit? LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: What did he say???
Thought you left...
What!!!
I did....just had to take onelast peak before I locked the door....You know how it is...LOL
later...for sure this time...
Posted by glassman on :
bizzarre... again..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: bizzarre... again..
Nope...ALWAYS!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't think this has been our slowest day in terms of volume. I am however hard pressed to remember a more boring day in this stock.
Posted by Sandusky on :
I tried to call Rufus and Ben just for fun. Ben's box is still full, but Rufus picked up...then hung up. Not a word exchanged. Oh well.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Joseph Cook he is referring too is listed on the other site's executive officer page. As far as the plagerism accusation. Tons of companies steal the legal disclaimer page from other sites. Why hire a lawyer to write some verbage that is covered on another site a few clicks away. If all the bashers can find on this company is a few screens on their web site that have been scrapped from other places then I say either the bashers are running out of ammo, or the company is just that squeaky clean that no one can dig up real issues.
We have researched lots of things in this thread that were much bigger than this. And found satisfactory answers for all. I encourage the bashers to keep going because it is just forcing us to go out and look a little deeper and find out how good this deal really is.
Posted by glassman on :
quote: I tried to call Rufus and Ben just for fun. Ben's box is still full, but Rufus picked up...then hung up. Not a word exchanged. Oh well.
in the 70's?
we woulda said: you guys are all flipped out
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus said it best... "Another nail in your BS coffin."
Posted by redmax on :
Rufus, Timeline PR coming afterhours....
Posted by Sandusky on :
I may be slow but I'm not following...70's?
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote: I tried to call Rufus and Ben just for fun. Ben's box is still full, but Rufus picked up...then hung up. Not a word exchanged. Oh well.
in the 70's?
we woulda said: you guys are all flipped out
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by redmax: Rufus, Timeline PR coming afterhours....
Where did you see this?...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
The 1970's
Posted by glassman on :
flipped out= OD'ed on LSD...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Guess you had to be there? Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: The 1970's
The days of thai- stick, blond hash, purple micro-dot and boones farm wine.....
never heard of it...
Posted by glassman on :
yep....
seriously? re-read your post:
"just for fun" i pestered somebody at work?
sorry...
i'm just trying to shed some light on the dark dark side of the moon...
breathe....
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: The 1970's
The days of thai- stick, blond hash, purple micro-dot and boones farm wine.....
never heard of it...
orange sunshine, qualudes, panama red, columbian gold, jamacian collie, and yes blond lebonese.
me neither...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
are those Ben & Jerry's flavors or something... Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: The 1970's
The days of thai- stick, blond hash, purple micro-dot and boones farm wine.....
never heard of it...
orange sunshine, qualudes, panama red, columbian gold, jamacian collie, and yes blond lebonese. Haze, Northern Lights, G-13. Nope never heard of these.... me neither...
Posted by redmax on :
I'm sorry didn't mean to phrase that like a statement. Was typing in a rush. I meant to say Rufus, we need a Timeline PR after hours. Sorry guys
Posted by Sandusky on :
I figured if he actually has time to post on ihub he has time to talk to me. That would have been my first question.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: yep....
seriously? re-read your post:
"just for fun" i pestered somebody at work?
sorry...
i'm just trying to shed some light on the dark dark side of the moon...
breathe....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
that's ok Redmax, think I just screwed up my last post too!
Posted by redmax on :
I'm sorry didn't mean to phrase that like a statement. Was typing in a rush. I meant to say Rufus, we need a Timeline PR after hours. Sorry guys
Posted by luvforever on :
(_!_) what a moon! LOL
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...you put ihub in a tissy over that statement, lol...
Posted by glassman on :
don't take it personal sandusky...
how many times do you think his phone has rung?
somebody's "you know what" is stuck in the wringer...
whether it is Rufus or the shorts? that remains to be seen...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Guess you had to be there?
I guess so... cause I am still trying to figure out why Rufas hung up on him. Was his phone call part of the LSD trip? Personally the endless filings of "no interest what-so-ever" on this Edgar site has me a bit flipped out.
If I did see one from Conversion Solutions Holding Corp., I am sure I would think it was just some bad hallucenation brought on by polluted city air heated in 115 degree summer sun. I just might start slapping myself attempting to jar a bit of reality from the obvious illusions presented on my computer screen.
Oh no, who turned on the Van Morrison music in my head??? This is getting creepy. Posted by maumee river rat on :
Lucretia McEvil???
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Oh no, who turned on the Van Morrison music in my head??? This is getting creepy.
getting? Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Oh no, who turned on the Van Morrison music in my head??? This is getting creepy.
getting?
Well yeah this was bad enough when it had no theme music. Now I have "Rider's on the Storm" echoing in my skull, and no one to explain the meaning behind the half naked indian and all this sand. Ok creepy was an understatment. Posted by Chartwalker on :
LMAO ~~~~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
half naked indian...speaking of which...didn't one of those provide lemon sucker with all his "informative information"?
ok...i'm looking over my shoulder now...
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: The 1970's
The days of thai- stick, blond hash, purple micro-dot and boones farm wine.....
never heard of it...
I kinda remember that...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Everyone is now showing their age and their "habbits" from "way back when"...
It is now varified that all on this board have issues.... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: half naked indian...speaking of which...didn't one of those provide lemon sucker with all his "informative information"?
ok...i'm looking over my shoulder now...
OHhhh... yeah man. I see it now. The indian is an insider, and the sand is the vast cosmic vast-ness between me and any information regarding my investment. Wow Mannn that is cool.
Or is he just a half-naked short trying to get me to sell!
I still got a vice grip on my slips. Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
I thought that "issues" were the glue that binds?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
EOD run today???
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think this things feet are to stuck in the vast cosmic vastness sand to run right now lol
Posted by unclerudy on :
Oh man, is the indian a slurpee or a casino indian?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I think this things feet are to stuck in the vast cosmic vastness sand to run right now lol
You sure that is not quicksand? 0.93???
Posted by Vin on :
falling fast. What's up?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
this is really ugly right now.
Posted by SYGY on :
just been looking in from time to time today,,i guess we see red today,,the mother of shakes happening now!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: EOD run today???
Maybe we should have been more specific as to which way???
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think people are going to start to really lose confidence very shortly.
Posted by SYGY on :
crazy!!! we need something RUFUS!!! damn this is alot of bucks!!!
Posted by Vin on :
it's trying to come back a bit...
Posted by Vin on :
I agree. This looks to be the start of a no confidence vote. We need to start hearing "something" pretty soon. Still holding long, but it gets harder and harder every day.
Posted by SYGY on :
come on support at 1 buck! where the f are you????
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is just a shake. A slide on no news is just that. Nothing has changed.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
would love to be buying some... Far from a major selloff so chill.... low volume, same song and dance IMO...
Posted by laker08 on :
wow people are getting robbed off of their shares. something big is coming imo...lol how can measly 200 shares drop the price?...it's being manipulated..anyone agree???
Posted by RyanPBF on :
there's no float right so the smallest buys or sells are going to move the price.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
weak hands letting it fall.... Still happy that EVERYONE has their shares?... -half smile/laugh
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by laker08: wow people are getting robbed off of their shares. something big is coming imo...lol how can measly 200 shares drop the price?...it's being manipulated..anyone agree???
understatement of the day. Manipulated since the begining is more like it.
Posted by Vin on :
Got mine. Hate to see this happen, but not really surprised.
Posted by SYGY on :
bought another 1000 at .885 what the hay!
Posted by luvforever on :
he he Posted by Chartwalker on :
Days like this I'm glad the market ISN'T open 24/7! ha ~
Same stock, same deal... Still LONG! Posted by luvforever on :
I'm not sure, but you would think the ceo would say something...instead of letting the true share holders left wondering? hmmm he'd want that too.. Posted by 10of13 on :
This was not that big of a surpirse to me...however it is still UGLY!..LOL
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well I don't have the ability or the stomach to watch the afterhours tonight for news or filings. Hope we hear something. and that that something is good. I'll check back later. Bye all.
Posted by SYGY on :
make a good gain on fgfc and loose it here darn!!oh well such is the stock life!! we will have to see if we fly by the end of the week!!maybe just maybe after hours NEWS!!!cross those darn fingers stick your head between your legs and suck!!!OH AND DON'T FORGET TO PRAY AT THE SAME TIME!!!!LOL!!!LOL!!!LOL!!!
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
At least I still have my FGFC, that one will see huge gains over the next year or so.
While things are progressing Rufus has not kept the timeline he discussed. I have decided to give him one more week to make this happen. If we do not have that 10K and the price reset by 3pm next Tuesday I will sell my shares and never look back.
We can only give this guy so much time to make this happen.
Posted by Vin on :
Your right SYGY. fgfc, wwen and ipkl all had good days today. Even if this thing would have stayed flat, I would have been a happy camper. Oh well, will take your advice and cross whatever I can find to cross. Tomorrow morning should be interesting to say the least.
Posted by luvforever on :
lol, guess it could have been worse lol Posted by ruthie on :
Yep, this ended pretty darn UGLY.. afraid I am losing some of my confidence .Hanging in there a LITTLE bit longer..
Posted by P Rowds on :
hey all... new this was gonna happen with no 10k... existing fhal holders finally got to trade... and once that happened, i knew the volume would go up and confidence would be lost...
now what would be real interesting is *if* the 10k was released afterhours and the price reset occurred tommorrow morning... and that could be rufus' way of "sticking it" to the ppl who decided not to stay with the stock... just would be funny... doubtfull it will happen tho
Posted by SYGY on :
well on the upside,,it usually gets bad right before it gets real good !!just like fgfc so here's hoping !!!i'm still very confident just pissed!!!we could of all of been holding more on flipping but who's the real expert here that has ,and made huge flippin' this till now NOT ME!!!
Posted by luvforever on :
yeah well, this is boring and if ppl knew the truth they wouldn't blame the mms, but since when do any of us know the truth unless we see legal docs? Why can't life be easier? LOL Because we wouldn't know the difference..lol I don't know the truth... LOL
Posted by ruthie on :
Not me either. I did sell some awhile back but been holding on since...We will see...
Posted by dog on :
Everyone has been waiting for shares to be freed up to shake them loose.... it was manipulated all day. Bashers got some fuel, you see the result. Remember.. every share that's sold has a buyer... and they are not buying it to lose money.
Posted by dog on :
News tonite will make it right....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: News tonite will make it right....
Poet
Posted by thecon00 on :
Anyone find more info on the bond backers i.e. - The Caracas group and/or Ismet Paez since I posted yesterday?
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: SYGY In reply to: Rufus Paul Harris who wrote msg# 41848 Date:8/15/2006 4:38:35 PM Post #of 42153 ----POSTED THIS ON I-HUB TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOTHING------ hello RUFUS ! now that we are practically on our knees ,could you please send us SOMETHING!! we are holding and are inspired with your vision, but since we have been led to believe that (timelines are in SEC hand's right now) you could still reasure most of us, as i believe most are in need of your support now!! THANK YOU for this opportunity!
Posted by Claydough on :
Everytime this thing starts to drop a little too much Rufus shoots us a PR and it bounces right back. If I had settled funds right now I would be buying more to flip, because as soon as another PR comes we'll be right back over a dollar.
Posted by dog on :
I'd like to get the iHubbers who think that the bashers are "on the sidelines" to understand that they are actually in the game. Many of them ARE PAID TO SIT ALL DAY IN A CHATROOM AND BASH! How do we see the same bashers with the bad facts that are flimsy at best? Don't they have jobs? Why would they waste their time fighting with people all day? So they are either crazy or PAID TO BE THERE.
My guess is the latter. Shorts are covering now, or are lessening their risk if this resets. It was pushed down by 100 share buys only to have 5K and 10K buys fill a penny higher. They are slowly getting out, and unfortunately the shares are likely coming from longs that are shook loose by the delay that is only amplified by Rufus' silence.
Please release the 10k soon... I'm sick of the circus...
Posted by MTPromises on :
hey, everyone! things are finally starting to settle down on my end with the move.
Looks like the theory of holding above $1 was shot today.
I have not had a chance to read everything posted in the past 3 days. Has anyone been able to get ahold of Rufus? Why has he become so scarce? Just seems so odd since he was at our beck and call when this all started. Perhaps he feels that he's said enough and that the filings and PRs will speak for him as they come out. I'm obviously with all of you --- that 10K needs to come out very soon (or a Rufus update) or our faith will all begin to dwindle.
Posted by dog on :
I watched an experienced someone (that I trust) sit back and buy up 86,000 shares in the last half hour during the selloff. He's sure it will go up.. and still thinks he's making a great investment...
My cajones aren't quite that big... but it does make me sleep better at night to have witnessed this.
Posted by milliam on :
MT...I think maybe the lawyer has been holding Rufus back from stating much more. I do hope the PR's and 10K speak for him, but it would be nice if it happened soon.
Dang dog...that's one heck of a buy there. Not only would my cajones be big enough...my account isn't even close to being big enough, but maybe not for long :0.
Posted by dog on :
I know... it's crazy... almost gave me a heart attack but I watched him do it, as I was computerside when he did it.... he hasn't lost on any trade in the last year!
Posted by cool AZ on :
I see last trade * 16:09:45 for 10,500 shares * 0.95 ... nothing has changed people ... holding tight to mine!
Posted by dog on :
Really ... was the close adjusted?
Posted by cool AZ on :
Looks like last after hours trade of 8 total.
Posted by dog on :
All this low PPS means right now is flippers paradise... if they caught with a hault/reset... hey, now it's an investment.
Screw the price... everyone is trying to make money on this stock in their own way. It's just harder for us Longs to have the strength to see it through, but much easier for shorts/bashers to make it drop so they can cover. FEAR is the best manipulator. You can get people to do anything you want if you can make them afraid.
This is still the same stock until 10K or news that it's over. So if you bought this stock to see a 10K and a profit, your plan is still in play. If you bail before the 10K, then you should have never put money here in the first place.
Just my opinion . . GLTA no matter if yor still at the Poker table or not anymore . . . me, I'm trying to get to that final table, my hand is pretty good. Posted by portman on :
I know... I just put my first post on there... completely overlooked. It's like a broken record.... waah waah
Posted by cool AZ on :
Look at the fundamentals ... have they changed? No! All has happened, in chronology, the way it was said it would. The only thing that really changes is the timing of the events.
The proposed time lines in business are goals, expectations, and then plans. Usually something holds up the show along the way ... the only way to know what these things are is to move through the process.
For me the price is arbitrary as the fundamentals of CSHD are strong - much stronger than I've experienced in any other "penny" stock.
I cruised through all yesterdays, last nights and todays posts on ihub and was encouraged by the amount of bashing I saw ... seemed about every 3rd post was bashing! Nothing, I noticed, was of substance ... just trying to scare the weak.
These are people who may be trying to protect their own short positions or paid bashers who's job it is to bring pps down. Bottom line, their trying to minimize their (or for those they work for) pain from a bad investmnent on the short side.
Long and strong! GLTA!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Never thought I'd post a post from another board but I Just wanted everyone to stay aware and alert so they may pick them up, if even needed. There's still lots of unknowns to be established. Careful.
Posted by: terps71 In reply to: None Date:8/15/2006 6:40:44 PM Post #of 42365
if you sold today you might be short!!! not all shares tranfered
10k comes tomorrow you might be in big trouble
Posted by dog on :
I'm not selling until a 10k... not a good idea to make a couple thousand while flipping, then having to give up some of my long position to cover shorts...
Posted by silver2gold on :
I'm not sure if this has been posted but I found this article. Business Leaders Gather for Peace in Seattle June 5, 2006.
You will see a picture of Dr. Thomas Mensah about half way down. I have a very hard time believing he would be involved with any business deals that looked shady or as some say a scam. His name and reputation is worth far more then a fast buck.
quote:Originally posted by silver2gold: I'm not sure if this has been posted but I found this article. Business Leaders Gather for Peace in Seattle June 5, 2006.
You will see a picture of Dr. Thomas Mensah about half way down. I have a very hard time believing he would be involved with any business deals that looked shady or as some say a scam. His name and reputation is worth far more then a fast buck.
Found it...Good find Dr. Mensah is CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Dipping down ...maybe because it seems all of the brokers have gotten the symbol changes complete....??? people are jumping...because they had to wait so long? Just a thought...
Agreed. I am looking to buy on the low part of the dip. Get scared people, help me out.
Not quite ready to...but good luck grabbin' some...!
I grabbed some. Hopefully a gap up tomorrow, or I sell quickly. I had to buy during that sell off. Worth the overnight gamble if I PR comes out.
Posted by thecon00 on :
posted August 15, 2006 16:41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone find more info on the bond backers i.e. - The Caracas group and/or Ismet Paez since I posted yesterday?
ANYONE EVEN TRY OR CARE? it seems like the only concern right now to me. Other ideas?
Posted by thecon00 on :
Funding agreement with Will BB pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one again !!!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Funding agreement with Will BB pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one again !!!
Hey, con boy...move along, nothing to see here.
There is a requirement to read the 300+ pages of DD before you are allowed to post. Posted by thecon00 on :
???
Posted by portman on :
try again con...I added a little more for ya.
Posted by SherriT on :
Looks like everyone is still hangin' out ;-)
I have to say I am grateful we didn't see the reset this morning, but I am here for the long haul too (or should I throw in front haul for the pun?) Hope we have something to celebrate soon, but I am learning that patience pays off.
GLTA!
Posted by thecon00 on :
Found a similar type of bond being used to finance a similar merger.
Song Networks Holding: Telenor Business Solutions Holding... 2002-07-09 09:00:34…
Posted by portman on :
Con, this type of financing is all the rage on WS now. Bond is a dead topic here unless someone can actually prove it is not able to be used. The only think left to validate that is the 10k...so we wait.
Posted by thecon00 on :
You really think i'm new?
Like I said yesterday i’m long since early May and have posted several times in the first 500 post on IHub. Just left because they suck. I just staying w this issue because it is the only think you guy haven't found something on. I think you guys have done an unbelievable job on DD and have been reading you all along even though I was a member of the other board primarily because of JJ. He is out. I’m NOT!!!
Posted by thecon00 on :
You are not concerned about the lack of info on the backers?
Posted by luvforever on :
I still wonder about thatt jj? He couldn't even say why he jumped... I assume/ he was scared or madcause he didn't get the answers he wanted from Mr. Ruffas?? Hmmmmmmmm!!!! LOL Posted by portman on :
JJ... that boy ain't right...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: You are not concerned about the lack of info on the backers?
Con...like I said...unlike IHUB...there are pages and pages where this group has gone over all the questions you are asking...so often have we questioned ourselves over and over...we have tired of it. There are two threads linked here from page one of this one. Over 300+ pages of our discussions over the weeks.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: I still wonder about thatt jj? He couldn't even say why he jumped... I assume/ he was scared or madcause he didn't get the answers he wanted from Mr. Ruffas?? Hmmmmmmmm!!!! LOL
never saw the pm he was sending to his traderscorner team on ihub huh? He told them all to get out quietly so they could maximize their profit because he believed the 3rd attack by ********** was true.
It turned out to be fake and so did he.
Posted by luvforever on :
I mean did anyone ever find out why he jumped ship? It's his decision but he posted everything else the he was hush about his reasons and why? Was he scared? Who knows, but if your gonna talk and walk the walk why stop when asked why? LOL Posted by luvforever on :
I saw that but...I wan't following him! I make my own mistakes! I like blaming myself and not someoe else LOL Posted by thecon00 on :
JJ was as trust worthy as the best posters here imo. He did some great DD for us longs on IHub.
I saw in a PR that he got out because he no longer felt that the bond was legitimate. BB's find on the bond was very reassuring but im nervous about not finding anything about the group/people who we signed the bond with. That’s all sorry for perseverating on this.
Posted by portman on :
con...read Posted by 10of13 on :
No comments on this post? I thought it was a good find!
quote:Originally posted by silver2gold: I'm not sure if this has been posted but I found this article. Business Leaders Gather for Peace in Seattle June 5, 2006.
You will see a picture of Dr. Thomas Mensah about half way down. I have a very hard time believing he would be involved with any business deals that looked shady or as some say a scam. His name and reputation is worth far more then a fast buck.
What's up everyone, I was gone all day golfing, can someone enlighten me on what has been going on? From the looks of it not much! Thanks
Posted by betting babe on :
hey all, just checking in.
looks like we sprung a lil leak today. not bad for the first full day of trading on the new symbol.
ill assume from the lack of response to cassity above that there's no action & nothing new.
saves me a lotta pages of review
...theres always tomorrow!
~BB
Posted by SYGY on :
hey BB you sing too!!!isn't there a song like that??? kool profile~ my sis models too!live's in Ottawa, travels the world ,does sears and crysler car shows,,spends six months in spain every year for the last few...(theres always tomorrow!) just checking in too!
Posted by portman on :
I think all we have added was more meat to the Management teams for teh AISS JV.
Posted by thecon00 on :
The following release came from my alerts page on Scotttrade this AM. It's references to old dates and names indicates non-current information is beening circulated at at least TalkingStocks. It is not helpful, but instead just confusing and thereby may be making some folks jumpy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"TalkingStocks.com: Alerts for Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - Featuring Ion Networks, Pacer Health , OnScreen Technologies, Wealth Minerals and More
Dallas, Texas, Aug 16, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Talking Stocks Pre-Market Updates for Wednesday include The Furia Organization, Inc. (OTCBB:CSHD), Ion Networks Inc (OTCBB: IONN), ANTs software inc (OTCBB: ANTS), Wealth Minerals Ltd. (OTCBB: WMLLF), Pacer Health Corporation (OTCBB: PHLH), OnScreen Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB: ONSC). Talking Stocks Pre-Market Updates feature companies with significant moves in either volume or price in the past two trading sessions. In our update we analyze recent news about the companies featured and detail the movement in the stock. If you would like to feature your publicly traded company in our alerts or on TalkingStocks.com, email john*talkingstocks.com or call (469)252-3031.
The Furia Organization, Inc. (OTCBB: CSHD) Tuesday's market closed at a 16.43% decrease at $0.89 per share. There were 1,482,213 shares traded. Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders. We have received the New Symbol for Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. The change will be effective Wednesday, August 9, 2006. CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
The Furia Organization, Inc. is located in Rockwall, Texas, and expects to grow its business specifically in the areas of distribution of flatbed, dry van and refrigerated loads. The Company is the only referral based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 700 registered members. For additional information about The Furia Organization, Inc., visit us on the Internet at http://www.fronthaul.com." Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Alright! A new day, a new symbol, finally & officially.
Will to day be the day? Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice find really Bucky...
Neither site is working of course, and the symbol is wrong, I wonder just how many "dumb" things like this effect people's trading?...
Heck, people STILL show up here asking how the price can be reset!!!!
I can't help but see EMOTIONS all over this board. I thought we all liked this company AND THE DEAL WE ARE WAITING FOR?... So who cares about the price, with shorts that have to be covered http://tinyurl.com/qx2v8 (we are on the list) of course price is going to be driven down and yes with people getting their shares we will see selloff's like yesterday...
See the "Big Picture" nothing is happening that isn't expected...
EVERYTIME there is a dip or bump in the road panic sets in, as long as the price doesn't go down everyone is fine, quit trading your emotions.
Get comfortable with your position, know what you have, then take a stand and let the dice roll, heck we STILL have a CEO that is sticking up for his company on PUBLIC message boards people!!!
So once again let me state that this is the same company, same deal... TILL THE 10k says differently~
Stop trading emotions, trade the FACTS!
NO facts say to bale yet IMO...
Hopefully seeing the big picture and knowing that everything that was said is being done that can be done except things out of Rufus' hands tells you to ride this out.
In business IT IS NORMAL TO HAVE DELAYS.
Hopefully this post will help some find some peace ~
GLTA no matter what you do. Posted by portman on :
Not sure we have too much emotional trading on this one Chart. But a good post to remind us all every now an again is always appreciated.
TY!
Posted by Vin on :
Point well taken Chart, but for some reason I have a horrible feeling about today. Wish I could give you specific reasons why, but all I can think is that there are a LOT of people being scared out of their shares. I'm gonna hang in there, but I may have to tighten the belt up a bit.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think this is going to get real ugly real fast. This sucks I hate days like this.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yes, I see a rough road ahead with big money doing what it can. That's why I said get comfy...
Now that shares are free'd up there is alot to shake, and shake they will. But that doesn't change the fact that there will be a price reset.
Why would there not be?
Questions are... To what price? -and will it go up or down from there ~
It may be good for LONG- longs that these shakes are going on. I hate the shakes too, but it's all part of the game.
GLTA
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Looks to me like its gapping down already. If i didnt sell at 1.60.....if i didnt sell at 1.20.....if i didnt sell while it sat between 1.00 and 1.10 for DAYS then i guess i wont sell now. I hate that going down with the ship feeling but I think Rufus gave up on trying to keep people "comfie" and has decided to just concentrate on what he is doing. I feel pretty strongly that we will see something later today or early tomorrow. I dont think it will be in the form of another "updates shareholders" though, that has lost its thrill. Lets hope for something REAL.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I've heard that some people still haven't received their shares. I think mainly Canadian accounts can anyone verify this.
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
it will probably tank a little more today and hopefully stabilize...
they were saying over at ihub a few of the canadian brokers have not transferred over yet and are still waiting for certs possibly causing more of a hold up.
Posted by 4Given on :
hang in there guy's, ask my hubby for more money, he say's might be good to load up, looook at what we can make on this. you guy's have been great, I have had a super great time.
Posted by Vin on :
Oh the humanity! Posted by RyanPBF on :
we're down .10 in 10 min anyone see a bottom here. Besides the floor.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well I sure am glad I'll be gone till 1 o'clock. I hope it not down too far but think it could bounce off the 50 RSI like the last three times. Lets watch and see: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=DAILY&b=5&g=0&id=p Posted by Vin on :
There has GOT to be some buying pressure here soon. At these prices, people have to be searching for funds to put into this.
Posted by Squire38 on :
Well I sold quickly at the open, a little loss, but I'll rebuy once it bounces.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Calm down all unlike all you with the bad feeling I have a very good feeling about today. I am guessing EOD or possibly "halt" gain of 50% today.
Not baseing this on anything other than gut feeling. I think we are in for some great news. And those that are selling are going to be mad.
TB
Posted by RyanPBF on :
we have seen this before. A big sell off in the morning only to be followed by a big rally.
Posted by 4Given on :
nothing has changed, everything still going through, this company is awesome, and will happen, a double up would have been nice but I am happy with what my husband gave, never thought it could be so much fun.
Posted by Vin on :
Squire, I don't get your "I'll rebuy once it bounces" comment? We're really low right now. When you looking to get back in?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
I believe if he didn't get back in already...he may have missed it for today...
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Squire, I don't get your "I'll rebuy once it bounces" comment? We're really low right now. When you looking to get back in?
I sold at 83 at the open, then watched it fall, once it turned I rebought more shares (than I started with) at 77 once it hit 76 and turned around. I'm a flipper.
now I'll watch the L2s and if I see the buyer pressure stop, I'll wait till it turns down and sell again. Then rebuy, either same amount of shares or more shares each time, just depends.
Posted by Vin on :
Kinda figured that. Nice catch at 77. Hopefully we won't see that price anymore today though.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I believe if he didn't get back in already...he may have missed it for today...
Yea, i think we may have bounced already. Thinking back on how this all started I kinda feel a large chunk of shorters probably came on board in the .60's range. Right after the merger announcement this seemed to be the price range where it would have made sense. This is just a guess on my part of course but if its true the shorters are getting big chances to cover today IMO.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
hence the larger than usual volume?
by usual i mean last few days...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Morning! Needless to say, a great buying opportunity is at hand ... wish I could!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yeah, people "in the know" still want it Posted by Squire38 on :
Now buying is done, it will go down some.
My post are a bit delayed, since I would rather hit my buy or sell buttons than post.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Remember a couple weeks ago when I said that it could go for the .60 level.....I think we are gunna see it ....Support today around .62.....
Man this pizzez me off!!!
Posted by cassity on :
Has anyone spoke to Rufus lately? I've been thinking about calling him today, just to see when they are going to update US shareholders.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good idea cass ... GLTY!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well, if we give Rufus the benefit of the doubt, Rufus did say that he would wait till "everyone" had their shares to trade at the re-set.
Is it true that the canadians didn't get theirs?..
Anyone know?.....
Posted by SYGY on :
a little late getting here !!today ,,,yes TD Waterhouse through WebBroker still shows-------------------------------------------------------------------fronthau l group inc (the"---" as a little star
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: a little late getting here !!today ,,,yes TD Waterhouse through WebBroker still shows-------------------------------------------------------------------fronthau l group inc (the"---" as a little star
So yours just cleared today?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think that means that they are not cleared yet..
Posted by SherriT on :
That should make us all feel a bit better....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well then that may be the best thing I've heard today!
Posted by SYGY on :
not cleared!!!darn been like that for a while !!i gotta get some coffee or is that rye in me!! then i'll call them again
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: not cleared!!!darn been like that for a while !!i gotta get some coffee or is that rye in me!! then i'll call them again
Yes! Keep us posted here... SYGY you may be one of the last checks before we hear something, -that would make sense.
Posted by SYGY on :
got an ichy finger today ,,not sure when to hit the buy button on more shares got 15000 fhal and 8000 cshd looking at maybe 10000 more today or tomorrow just want to pick the BEST time???
Posted by SYGY on :
phoning right now then i'll be back!
Posted by portman on :
In the last two days I have not felt the urge to sell. No nerves or trouble sleeping.
I am excited for the resolution of the issues and movement to some level of higher value based on the 10K. I have not played this for the "to da moon" value. I am expecting a gain. Even a small gain works for me.
Posted by cassity on :
Has anyone tried to go to the company's website today? It not working for me, anyone else? The last time they took down the website, we got some news, who knows.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Its working for me Cassity
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Same - working ok
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Its working for me Cassity
What website are you going to, I tried www.cvsu.us and it takes me to a default screen, could be my internet. Thanks
Posted by cool AZ on :
This phase cannot be over ... and able to move on ... until all can buy ot sell. One would think that will happen soon depending on how the shorts work into the equation.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Just trying to put "all" the pieces together from a Rufus point of view.
Yes, Rufus would want everyone to have shares ready, why? So if he does have these institutional buyers, they can buy.... -why?... -Cause they HOLD!!
So Rufus would win because his shares wouldn't be going up and down like they are now. He must have thought about this, why on earth would he mention waiting till everyone's shares are cleared before the "one swoop" comes?
I don't think it's because he "cares" about you and me...
-It's business, pure and simple and he's looking after his company, I believe that is why he combs even the message boards for bashers, cause he can't wait to slam them ~ IMO
Yes I think the re-set will come, and I believe it will be more then a dollar when it does! Wasn't CVSU's shares valued at $30something per share??? -Thought I read that here a ways back...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
OK...call me crazy but I'm trying to get more at .77. If anything, I'm averaging down as I think it WILL go higher (eventually). Just need the news.
Hmmm, if I was an insider or "in the know" I'd be buying tons of this now. When the halt comes $500.00 will turn into $7500.00 fast.
Easy money.
Posted by cassity on :
Sorry, it's working for me now. False alarm people.
Posted by SYGY on :
WOW!WOW!WOW! TD is telling me from the 9th could 10-15 days but then could be sooner so take that for what it's worth!!sounds like crap to me! musn't be a stock that's traded to much here in Canada ,,otherwise i think they could get me a more definate answer than that!!! someone give me the transfer agent's # ,,they are Canadian i'll call them and see what they say????
Posted by cool AZ on :
I believe in the old thread, we saw CVSU mentioned at about 32pps and AISS at about 60pps.
Posted by SYGY on :
(THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE WORTH WAITING FOR) must be true then!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: I believe in the old thread, we saw CVSU mentioned at about 32pps and AISS at about 60pps.
Thanks. I hate to say something and not have the link... -but there are like almost 300 pages now! ha ~
So there you have it, we all read the SEC rule about resetting, this baby is ready, Rufus only has to lite the fuse IMO.
Posted by SYGY on :
someone transfer agent #?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: someone transfer agent #?
I got a number from my broker when I did that last. Tried that?
Posted by betting babe on :
Integrity Stock Transfer 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway Bldg 5 - Suite 527 Henderson, NV 89014 Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757 Fax: (702) 796-5650 Email: stock*integritynevada.net
is supposed to be the one the new company is going with.
~BB
thx for calling SYGY im working cant call... cant even read all this thread. wish i could...
Posted by portman on :
If you are calling get any share structure changes as well.
Posted by SYGY on :
ok! will do!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"This Board ROCKS!!!" Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
BB apparently takes good notes. There are some lessons to be learned there!!
Thanks AGAIN! Posted by SYGY on :
i'm getting answering machine! at TA
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: I believe in the old thread, we saw CVSU mentioned at about 32pps and AISS at about 60pps.
I think the $32.00 & $60.00 was irrational exuburance but the original value I do remember was $15.00.
Posted by SYGY on :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by cool AZ: I believe in the old thread, we saw CVSU mentioned at about 32pps and AISS at about 60pps.----Your correct we did see that,,, actually cvsu wanted 34$ pps
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: I believe in the old thread, we saw CVSU mentioned at about 32pps and AISS at about 60pps.
I think the $32.00 & $60.00 was irrational exuburance but the original value I do remember was $15.00.
I thought that was where the $15 came from? -half of the book value... -which was like $32. "?"
Either way it's alot more then what ANY of us have bought in at, which gets back to my point that there just is no way that Rufus is going to let "HIS" stock trade for a stinking dollar or two. IMO
Posted by cassity on :
I tried to call Rufus, I got his voice mail, but I left a message. Maybe he'll call me back?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I thought book value was $7 something and then we ould trade at $15 as a forward looking pps like many compainies that trade higher than their book value. and that 32 and 60 was a good pps that it could trade at given it's future buisness dealings... IMO
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
According to the 8K filed with the SEC on 7/11/06 it looks like we should be waiting for the S-4 REGISTRATION STATEMENT in addition to the 10K.
The S-4 would come around the same time as the halt...RIGHT?
FHAL's and FHAL intend to file with the SEC a S-4 registration statement / prospectus and other relevant materials in connection with the proposed acquisition of CVSU by FHAL pursuant to the terms of an Agreement and Plan of Merger by and among Conversion Solutions, Inc., and FHAL. The S-4 registration statement / prospectus and other relevant materials (when they become available), and any other documents filed by CVSU or FHAL with the SEC, may be obtained free of charge at the SEC's web site at www.sec.gov. (that's WWW DOT SEC DOT GOV) In addition, investors and security holders may obtain free copies of the documents filed with the SEC by CVSU by contacting CVSU Investor Relations, Ben F Stanley, (317) 213-7700 or Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris, (678) 255-7650. Investors and security holders may obtain free copies of the documents filed with the SEC by FHAL by contacting FHAL Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris, (678) 255-7650. Investors and security holders of FHAL are urged to read the prospectus statement and the other relevant materials when they become available before making any investment decision with respect to the proposed merger.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: I thought book value was $7 something and then we ould trade at $15 as a forward looking pps like many compainies that trade higher than their book value. and that 32 and 60 was a good pps that it could trade at given it's future buisness dealings... IMO
the only time I heard of $7 (and change) was a canadian posted something about that, I guess from a letter from his broker. ?...
-I'd be happy with that Posted by 10of13 on :
There was a statemnet ...I believe on Paltalk that the book value would be $7.21...and then it could/should trade up to 3x that...I will see if I find it...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I'm very surprised that this has crashed this much
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I'm very surprised that this has crashed this much
I see no support until 0.52 based on the 50 day SMA.
Posted by ruthie on :
I sure hope we all are not being duped on this one. It is quite distressing seeing this much of a drop....
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I'm very surprised that this has crashed this much
I see no support until 0.52 based on the 50 day SMA.
.52 Huh??? hmm lets see what happens. Its lunch time but still alot of activity. I don't mind getting some shares at his price
Posted by SYGY on :
got 5000 more at.70!!
Posted by Hustla on :
BTW why is it tanking this much, i got in way back at .233 and sold at 1.11 never lloked back.
Whats going on?????
Posted by SYGY on :
this is CLEAR MANIPULATION!!! what else could it be?? confidence gone for some maybe, but they'll regret it soon!!!
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
Rufus better step up to the plate soon.
Posted by SYGY on :
bottom bounce now hopefully!!
Posted by 66inxs on :
“If you don’t have confidence in what we are doing.. then sell your shares. Don’t own a stock in something you don’t have confidence in. If you are in it for a profit making, I don’t want you as a shareholder.”
- Rufus Paul Harris, August 10, 2006
guess he doesn't want me as a shareholder !! what's going on with this today? any ideas ?
Posted by djg7 on :
I think this is a shake to scare the living sh*t of those holding. I picked up a few more shares today. I wish I had more money freed up in my account. I have to wait until Friday for money to clear and will buy more in the dips and shakes.
Posted by ruthie on :
It is hard not to lose some confidence in this somewhat. I do think that most of us are keeping some of this stock anyway. This fast dropping rate is quite a bummer though..
Posted by P Rowds on :
the book value is only 7.21... you can see it posted in a past PR.... they got the $15 because they are allowed to open trading at 2 to 3 times what their book value is. That is what he told me when i talked to him long ago.
And you should know how the "sex appeal" and assets influence a stock pps.... and rufus believes he has that. watching very close now awaiting the 10k... but finger is on trigger... i knew this was gonna happen once past fhal shareholders could trade... i should have flipped... oh just fyi... tried calling both ben and rufus and no answer to my calls either...
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
Sometimes I peek in here and am reminded of the GTE message board from Oct '05 to Feb '06.
Oh well.
Posted by SYGY on :
well this is my take! remember the support at 1$ few days ago!! maybe MM securing longs,,then mother of all shakes NOW! hopefully longs buying these cheap shares,,Rufus now Laughing even more because LONGS will HELP the PPs to blow through the ROOF SOON!!!
Posted by 66inxs on :
i was waiting on the 10K to jump back in but it never happened. rufus needs to do something about this quick. i guess there is no s-4 filing, right ?
Posted by P Rowds on :
for those that need to see physical proof of what *they* said book value is, here is link...
my gut is telling me we got fukd. I REALLY HOPE I'M WRONG. My azz still hurts from QBID.
Posted by SYGY on :
book value alone is more than 10x where we are now!!! buy em up poeple??? when she POP'S you'll have a big f-en grin ear to ear!!(only my opinion,,buy only if you wan't too!! )
Posted by madmoney on :
word was the share price would be adjusted at the time of the symbol change, did`nt happen! word was the finacials would be released on or before the symbol change date, did`nt happen!. no public statement explaining the delay that i have seen only hearsay from phone calls, now rufus is not taking calls apparently. patience is wearing thin, hence the drop in price.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: i was waiting on the 10K to jump back in but it never happened. rufus needs to do something about this quick. i guess there is no s-4 filing, right ?
Nope...none
Posted by 66inxs on :
there is absolutely no relation between book value and market value especially in a pinkie. its worth exactly what you can sell it for -- .695 pps. right now. today's plunge should point out the risk involved in all this. btw i hope i'm wrong about this but we will all find out together.
most interesting play of the year imho, GLTA !
oh, the humanity............
Posted by cassity on :
Hey 10, in the 8K was there specified time line that the company had to release the 10k? I know I should know this but to much info to retain. Anyone that knows is welcome to answer. THANKS
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Sept. 30 is the deadline...
Posted by SYGY on :
credibility has already been established on this company!! many credible poeple and subs joining CVSU! market value means nothing to CVSU! till 10K from my understanding!?
Posted by luvforever on :
So we I wait for sept 30th as my last straw lol then we I cry.. lol;)
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I hate to say that I'm starting to lose faith, but a drop like this is getting pretty tough to take.
Posted by 10of13 on :
No real specified deadline... Bottom line right now...People have lost faith... the Pps is reflecting that...If nothing comes out today...it will fall harder on Thursday...IMO...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
The drop sucks, that's for sure.
I feel it... hard.
But I'm still in, zero sold. I knew it would get bad, -not saying it's over yet...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Do not discount the fact that the mm's are still in the play ... I've noticed some weird bids and asks ... particularly when they are both below the current price listed. This enhances the will of the shorts and shakes out the weak!
Bottom line, I gather, is if you know what you're in, your staying and looking to buy more. If your doubtful (often due to lack of knowledge) you may be the weak hand and sell.
I'm sure Rufus knows the strong and steady will stay for the duration ... I think he's looking for investors, not the typical flippers, dipppers (shorts), etc. He is probably pretty well focused on the change and future support for ongoing business - both stock support and, yes, there is still other business to run.
Posted by SYGY on :
can anyone see if it's all being bought on small chunks or has there been large block's!!!??? need some of the pro's to give analysis on whats been going on yesterday and today!!!is it weak hand's ,manipulation ,someone is buying WHO! little guys or big guys!! someone must have an idea?? if Rufus can't say anything now,,pro's can give us insight GOOD OR BAD!!thanks
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, so doom and gloom....thats about where we are today. Anyone care to speculate on how many of these folks try to get back in at the eod? Anyone care to speculate how much the MMs run it back up to profit heavy off of this shake? Im gonna try to refrain from anymore doom and gloom myself and watch around 2:30 to see just how many people have "lost the faith".
This is completely my opinion with nothing to back it. But, knowing how many people supported this the last couple of weeks i dont feel that the support wont be there this afternoon when people start to wonder again "is this the day?".
Regardless if it runs up or down eod i refuse to lose another moment of sleep over this. For all of you that have waited patiently for the 10k to prove our book value.....lets not forget that hasnt changed. Nothing has changed, just days have passed without a payoff. *shrug*
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: No real specified deadline... Bottom line right now...People have lost faith... the Pps is reflecting that...If nothing comes out today...it will fall harder on Thursday...IMO...
Thursday 10? wait till friday! i'm curious how this pans out but don't want my account involved unless it goes green... lol
Posted by betting babe on :
why? because there's been no news?
you really think rufus just isnt gonna show up again?
all that for nothing? just pthhhhhzzzzzzt down the drain huh?
frank olsen pumped the chit outta qbid. that's how you knew it was a scam.
here, no news. no pumping. people in a panic. they're used to pumping. they want their cheerleaders.
and people preying on those in a panic.
causing a drop.
sometimes you just gotta kick back and not buy into the nonsense.
have a good day all, my clients are getting suspicious of these bathroom breaks
~BB
quote:Originally posted by casviper: my gut is telling me we got fukd. I REALLY HOPE I'M WRONG. My azz still hurts from QBID.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...i'm still here...work has just been such that i haven't been able to interact as much...
still here...still holding...still not selling even after 10K is released...i expect more...
eventually...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
ok lunch time is over let's see what happens next. Tax are you still keeping your end of day prediction?
Posted by ruthie on :
okay, I guess we will just need to chill out. Not much else we can do.. I guess I will go back to my painting now..
Posted by SYGY on :
so legally they have until 9-30 to file the 10KSB
Posted by SYGY on :
only 2 MMs left on.70!
Posted by mothra on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
have a good day all, my clients are getting suspicious of these bathroom breaks
~BB
does that mean they think you are purging to maintain the figure? lol
Posted by SYGY on :
mothra--SICKO!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by mothra:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
have a good day all, my clients are getting suspicious of these bathroom breaks
~BB
does that mean they think you are purging to maintain the figure? lol
I'm sure this was meant as a joke...to me...not funny...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by mothra:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
have a good day all, my clients are getting suspicious of these bathroom breaks
~BB
does that mean they think you are purging to maintain the figure? lol
I'm sure this was meant as a joke...to me...not funny...
Yea, its sad that someday she will probably decide to remain anonymous to avoid such things.
Posted by portman on :
I have been watching last trades all day./ very few abouve 1000 or 2500. Most are clearly 500, 300, 200, 100 which are always suspicious.
A couple 600 and 700 thrown in.
Looks manipulated to me.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I have been watching last trades all day./ very few abouve 1000 or 2500. Most are clearly 500, 300, 200, 100 which are always suspicious.
A couple 600 and 700 thrown in.
Looks manipulated to me.
I've been watching that too like a hawk... Oddball amounts to, not in even blocks, just weird.
Just now, 2, 920 amounts at different prices. What are the chances of that???
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I have been watching last trades all day./ very few abouve 1000 or 2500. Most are clearly 500, 300, 200, 100 which are always suspicious.
A couple 600 and 700 thrown in.
Looks manipulated to me.
If the PPS were in the double zeros then I would agree since 500 shares of a stock at 0.001 is 50 cents (not worth the comission fees). But 500 shares of something around $1 is $500, which is what quite a few people trade with.
Posted by portman on :
Well, consistent small trades on down tick: 100 and 200.
Bigger trades on the up tick: 2000, 1700
Big trades also on horizontal moves as well.
Rarely a large trade on a down tick.
You agree Chart?
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Just now, 2, 920 amounts at different prices. What are the chances of that???
Mirror trades. The first person sold at 0.6700 and a second person bought at 0.6710 (the MM was nice enough to keep the difference). The MMs are showing both sides to increase the volume.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Well, consistent small trades on down tick: 100 and 200.
Bigger trades on the up tick: 2000, 1700
Big trades also on horizontal moves as well.
Rarely a small trade on a down tick.
You agree Chart?
Yep... And still seeing some people taking advantage of these prices here and there that is for sure.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
20,040 * .67 and 10,000 * .68
How sweet would that be Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: 20,040 * .67 and 10,000 * .68
How sweet would that be
I seriously think thats just the beginning today. IMO we will see more of that as the day moves on. Historically it seems that 2:30 is crunch time so 45 minutes from now i think we will know how the day will end.
Posted by portman on :
approx 25K bought on ask at .68.
Posted by portman on :
lots of on ask buys coming ...MACD coming around.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Great.. On HSM and Ihub and paltalk bashers are thick as thieves ~
Posted by portman on :
I still think thecon here was a basher. Dinged me a star to... I should have shut that off long ago.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I still think thecon here was a basher. Dinged me a star to... I should have shut that off long ago.
Yea, the star system doesnt work so great when bashers can rate you. I think Absolut gave me 1 shiny star too.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I said screw it I'm gonna start making phone calls agian... I called Integrety Stock. He was enlightening on the situation. Btw Port, there are no new share structure changes. Numbers I got from him were out of 97.2 mil shares 25 mil are in the brokerages and the rest are in paper form held by individuals (not sure if those paper ones are held by company or Joe Blow investor or mix). Also I tried to get his feel for the validity of this company. He obviously could not give out any insider knowledge if he did know but communcated that the sec did appove them as a viable company (hence the allowance to do the merger, also as he said on the BB, not just some little penny (where his words)). He said that his dealings with the company were professional. It seemed he sensed that I was trying to get a feel of the legitness of this company (which I was) and he went above and beyond in explaining things to me to the point that I zoned out for a second or two (I wish I wasn't so ADD:). nonetheless he didn't just give me a quick answer to get me off his back as if he were sorry he had to deal with the company and that he was sorry for me as an investor. It was nothing like that. HE said that he understands that the 10K is being finallized and would be relesed when it's done. I remember Rufi saying something like having a few little things to tie up or finalize. Any busness that I've ever been involved with takes it time on majior moves, that's why they are still in buisness. I would much rather wait of CSHD to take their time and get it right then to throw out a 10K then have someone point out their error and the stock plumit to pennies because of being rushed. I see no reason (other than feeling sick to see the pps drop, btw not a good reason) to doubt the validity of this company. TImeliness would be nice, but this is the real world. Long and Stronger.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Been watching the L2's...sorry...people can say what they want...but IMO...this is total Manipulation...no doubt...
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: bluediamonds--I_HUB--POST In reply to: CBGB who wrote msg# 43438 Date:8/16/2006 1:58:51 PM Post #of 43455
CR spoke with Ben (COO)
FWIW:
Posted by: chevyrider In reply to: None Date:8/16/2006 12:19:59 PM Post #of 43187
Just spoke with Ben he is in a meeting and he had to go and I asked him a quick question. Asked If everything is going as planned he stated yes. and we got off the phone.
Posted by vinnie1 on :
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: Valis In reply to: None Date:8/16/2006 2:00:12 PM Post #of 43466
This says it all
as of 1:30 buys 1,057,000 sells 1,104,000
Down around 25% on 47,000? lol?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Been watching the L2's...sorry...people can say what they want...but IMO...this is total Manipulation...no doubt...
Thats what i thought!! The L2s do NOT match what im seeing in PPS decline! I often attribute this to my inexperience but something is horribly wrong IMO. Again, im looking at delayed L2 but something doesnt look right.
Posted by Squire38 on :
I'm looking to re-enter. L2s looking to come around.
Posted by Squire38 on :
Here we go.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
a 50k buy at .64
Posted by ruthie on :
Surely this thing has GOT to bottom out soon.....
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, still working on my theory from earlier about the .60 shorters. Now, ill cross my fingers and watch it walk back up in about 15 minutes. If we are still dropping on buys by 2:45 im shutting my PC down. Posted by milliam on :
I sure hope so. Getting close to .50 and my limit!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
are we going to make a new LOD again
Posted by vinnie1 on :
SOMEONE IS F IN WITH THIS TO BRING IT DOWN
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Can someone get the number to the Lawyer that was with Rufus in the last interveiw? Maybe we could call him up and ask him was bits of info we could legally recieve concerning the 10K release, the setbacks they are having etc. Gotta go to work will check back tonight. GLTA
Posted by Squire38 on :
Lots of selling.
Posted by SYGY on :
maybe shorters worked out deal With Rufus and MMs to cover shorts,,,wouldn't they have lost like billons at 100$$$??
Posted by casviper on :
i think this type of agreement would be illegal.
Posted by P Rowds on :
my god...
Posted by SYGY on :
damn shouldn't of bought at .70
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Took it down to .58 on a trade of 200 shares. This is funny but I'm not laughing today.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anyone have info on the Bond stuff? I am looking for a link to the stuff that BB posted a while back....Trying to see if it matches the one on that great lemon site
Posted by Igor R on :
Looking at l2s theres a lot of support in the .50's, but how long will that last?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I would like to think that +50% is still in the cards if that is your question. I think any good word would spring this puppy back and beyond at this point. I just filled another buy order at 0.63 so I am really hoping for something soon.
Not real happy to see the manipulators getting away with this that is for sure.
Posted by 10of13 on :
These L2's are a joke..so is this trading....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This is rediculous
Posted by djg7 on :
Resistance may be at .51 or .52. Something's going on behind the scenes and I don't like it. This is acting a lot like NDOL. I hope not.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
been watching this stock and thread for awhile now. I pulled the trigger when I saw .58 and loaded up with 50K shares!! Hope we bounce from here
Posted by cassity on :
I think that the MM's are picking up all the stop loss orders. They wouldn't allow to go up and it sure did come down REAL fast. B/S. I bet they are scaring a lot of people out of money. GLTA
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Resistance may be at .51 or .52. Something's going on behind the scenes and I don't like it. This is acting a lot like NDOL. I hope not.
I thought the exact same thing dig. I hope not too
Posted by RyanPBF on :
down 34% so far and It looks like it's going to keep falling.
Posted by SYGY on :
WTF-K is this another miracle stock????
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: been watching this stock and thread for awhile now. I pulled the trigger when I saw .58 and loaded up with 50K shares!! Hope we bounce from here
Wierd how we all seem to be buying but it is having no effect.
Posted by Squire38 on :
My L2 streamer quit for fifteen seconds, I thought trading was halted and I don't have any shares.
Posted by SYGY on :
we need a miraclei tell ya!
Posted by cassity on :
I think we'll be back at .7 or higher by close. JMO
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Any time Rufas... you shook the shakable, but let's not get F'n rediculous.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I'm going away for a bit. This is painfull and I don't want to watch.
Wake me when we are back up to .75.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
looks like we heading back up!
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Cass,
Want to bet that case of beer again???
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: been watching this stock and thread for awhile now. I pulled the trigger when I saw .58 and loaded up with 50K shares!! Hope we bounce from here
Wierd how we all seem to be buying but it is having no effect.
Yep, looks like pure manipulation
Posted by luvforever on :
fry ya still gotta give up the boxers!! LOL
Posted by SYGY on :
IM DRINKING BEER NOW!! maybe change to hard stuff ,,,oh the pain!!LOL!LOL!LOL!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Cass,
Want to bet that case of beer again???
You estimate and I'll estimate, whoever is closest! I'll say .72! Posted by cassity on :
I gotta go make some Macaroni and cheese!
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I'll say .65.
And fur LOV, the boxers are now my tray holder. Little stiff!!
Posted by dog on :
Just poured a nice glass of scotch . . .
Fukit.... I paid to see a 10k which I still think is coming, not gonna fall off now.... down $15,000, still lettin it ride!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I will feel better when we are over 0.63, great when we are over 0.80, super when we are over 0.99, and numb when we are over $15.00. This has to be one of the worlds best roller coasters.
Buck up little campers, these MM's can't stop a train. They can slow it down, send it in reverse for a bit, but if I have to remind all that 3.5 Billion (with a "B") in assets was the number. and ben Stanley said and I quote, "With alot more than that soon!"
Posted by casviper on :
and on the beach when we are at 30.00
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I will stick with my original "gut feeling" even tho it seems way out there at this point in time. EOD +50% or $1.26
TB
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
this reminds me at ndol..is this the drop before the take off or what is going on here...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well I grabbed 1000 more earlier. Something needs to be said or done but RSI at the 40 with maybe a little more room to fall. Who knows but I will keep accumulating shares! My order filled in 1 sec flat.
Didn't that JJ and Bud750 dude's seem to predict this they both got out!!! earlier how the f did they know,,,has to be manipulation BUT HOW THE HELL COULD THEY HAVE KNOWN??? is my question because this is a master manipulation!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
You'd be the F'N man tax if that happened and you called it.
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
manipulation or something is going on which is not good.. rufus better comes out with something
Posted by djg7 on :
Rufus had better come out with something to stop the bleeding.
Posted by luvforever on :
Ok , well my lose! LOL!! I am sticking with my gut and hanging in here to the end. I always leave when I get the bad sick feeling. If this one doesn't do the magic that I feel is coming ... then I will never trade stocks again. Imo I just feel too relaxed with this particular stock. It is all based on my feelings and it is the strangest. I can't explain it all, but I do know it's gonna magically happen. When.. is when I am not watching...LOL but I just know because I don't feel that gut wretching feeling about any lose with this and I did flip once for a small amount but haven't since .33 . Take with a grain of salt only my feelings.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
manipulation or HORRIFIC insider news is the only thing that could be doing this...
there are so many people with a stick up their ass about this stock I doubt very seriously that insider info is the culprit here...
Posted by luvforever on :
Hey who gave me a star?!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Idea: Thinking about gathering $$$ from where ever I can and putting it on the side, then when the 10k hits BUY LIKE A DOG!!!!!!! LOL ~
Q. Can I get the $$$ in there in time??? Talk about QUICK/EASY money!!!
MUH HU HA HA ......
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Looks like the Bollinger Bands are about to cross again. Could be a buy run coming. They crossed at 70 earlier and we all know what happened after that.
Posted by SYGY on :
tried calling Ben rings then says mailbox is full,,called Rufus doesn't ring ,goes to mailbox right away!!!
Posted by dog on :
Too many people watching...inside news doesn't explain it...its being manipulated for the second day in a row and regular traders have gotten weak in the knees . . . pull up your britches and run! Did you think it was going to be so easy? Nah... I'm stickin around to watch my own funeral (must be the scotch kickin in).
Only thing that would dissuade me is actual news....
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I think it's simple : This is a scam and many of us got duped. I sold at .70 and took my loss like a man. IMO Rufus and Ben are now criminals - they are guilty until proven innocent and it appears they have duped many people out of a lot of money. This is just my opinion, and if they put out a 10K it will be changed. However, I don't expect to see one, and I agree with some of the 'bashers' that Rufus probably will go to jail over this. Good luck to you all here ! See you around - Smelly.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Too many people watching...inside news doesn't explain it...its being manipulated for the second day in a row and regular traders have gotten weak in the knees . . . pull up your britches and run! Did you think it was going to be so easy? Nah... I'm stickin around to watch my own funeral (must be the scotch kickin in).
Only thing that would dissuade me is actual news....
Amen!
Posted by dog on :
We are making news with our precipitous drop! LOL
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Looks like the Bollinger Bands are about to cross again.
Cross what?
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
What if the $15/share price switch thing fell through?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Too many people watching...inside news doesn't explain it...its being manipulated for the second day in a row and regular traders have gotten weak in the knees . . . pull up your britches and run! Did you think it was going to be so easy? Nah... I'm stickin around to watch my own funeral (must be the scotch kickin in).
Only thing that would dissuade me is actual news....
Day off there Dog?
So, when do we hit Ashleys? Im tired of waiting for celebration as an excuse.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Looks like the Bollinger Bands are about to cross again. Could be a buy run coming. They crossed at 70 earlier and we all know what happened after that.
What do the bands say about scemeing shorties, and corupt MMs? Posted by dog on :
Hey Chart... no guts no glory! Victory is never awarded to the weak!
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Squire,
The upper and lower B Bands crossed each other at .70 and we dropped like a rock. Now they are getting ready to cross again, which may indicate we are moving up.
Posted by dog on :
Nah... I was watching at work... my friend was signed in... so I didn't post... I been here the whole time.
Ashley's for sure no matter what... we'll plan it.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
What do the bands say about scemeing shorties, and corupt MMs?
-------------------- Una Mas!
It says snap 'em in the a%% Posted by Squire38 on :
I've never seen the upper and lower B Band cross each other. I've seen the lower ones cross SMAs and I've seen the uppers cross SMA, but never seen them cross each other.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: What if the $15/share price switch thing fell through?
Its possible if the audit didnt go as planned. But, it would mean that some insider info got out and this will come to everyones attention soon enough. I dont like the possiblity but its hard to not think about it.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Between this and AMHD I'm going nuts. AMHD is doing what CSHD should be doing.
I'm so flippin' confused, I mean conflicted.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Absolut is back... now there is a good sign! That guy couldn't bash a baby seal with an oversized bat. We should be back to a dollar quick now.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Squire your right. They touched at .70 and we tanked now they are getting ready to touch again. Must have been the Whiskey Sours that i'm drinking!!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Squire38: I've never seen the upper and lower B Band cross each other. I've seen the lower ones cross SMAs and I've seen the uppers cross SMA, but never seen them cross each other.
They must have meant to say something else lol ~
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
It'a all over, and we longs lost. Get over it and move on to the next runner.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: It'a all over, and we longs lost. Get over it and move on to the next runner.
Sounds like YOU need to get over it, we think YOU fell for the scam. -sorry
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like the volume has dropped back off. Hopefully this indicates that the pull back is done or atleast has slowed considerably.
I would love for Rufus to do something about this, but do we really want a CEO that's out to pump this up? Like BB indicated, I think its better that Rufus isn't pumping. Makes me feel a little better, but then again, a 10k would make me feel a lot better!
Smelly, Over??? Nothings over until we say it is. When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...
Posted by dog on :
Nice "Animal House" reference Mill...
Greatest movie of all time.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
-When the going gets tough.... Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: It'a all over, and we longs lost. Get over it and move on to the next runner.
Sounds like YOU need to get over it, we think YOU fell for the scam. -sorry
Yea man seriously. Did you learn this over it Ihub? It seems to be catchy, as soon as a so called "long" sells out they instantly turn into a basher. You are diseased, get help.
We may all get toasted on this but no one appreciates your swing from one side to the next in like 10 minutes. Geez.
Posted by portman on :
If there is insider info out there it might not be bad. Might be that the shorts have found out this is the last chance to cover and the weak hands were ripe.
Posted by portman on :
Give him some time Catia...he feels robbed. Leave 'im be.
Posted by dog on :
There will always be more money, hell... I'm young, I'll make it back. I'm in until someone tells me there is no 10K.... gonna buy more at .50.
Weeeeeeeeeeee. . . . . having fun yet?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Give him some time Catia...he feels robbed. Leave 'im be.
Yea, i guess i can follow that. Things have been quite emotional lately and today has been brutal. Im trying to keep my emotions out of it as well but as you can see its not working. Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: If there is insider info out there it might not be bad. Might be that the shorts have found out this is the last chance to cover and the weak hands were ripe.
I honestly believe that because of the amount of money SOMEONE would have to pay should this thing go ANYWHERE NEAR $15!! The amount is unthinkable ~
That would make me do ANYTHING, wouldn't you if you were in their shoes? -Think about it ~
Posted by portman on :
I still have not been inclined to sell.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: -When the going gets tough....
...the tough get calls from their spouses saying "WTF is up with YOUR stock"?
;-)
My gut says I have placed my trust in a pink that is sure to let me down again, but I am gonna hold tight and pray that we see a reversal soon. So much for that short squeeze we were expecting....
Posted by 4Given on :
man, trying to reach hubby on phone, I want more of this, he gave me 15000 shares, come on hunny, call me back............ Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Hey who gave me a star?!!
Someone who loves the group safety mentality. Someone who is afraid to think for himself. Someone who feels strength in numbers.
Someone who is a fool.
I am sorry for all of you who have taken losses in this stock expecting a miracle of instantaneous, forewarned gain.
But i guess no one wants to hear "i told you so." From $1.66 to $.59 cents???
Hey, you can always jump on board ADNL and make some money back. It's heated like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
A good sign of what is happening today could be the number of shorts by the end of today. If the theories are all correct the number should be much lower right? How is it that we find that info again?
Posted by portman on :
New inspirational siggy for all of us Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: -When the going gets tough....
...the tough get calls from their spouses saying "WTF is up with YOUR stock"?
;-)
My gut says I have placed my trust in a pink that is sure to let me down again, but I am gonna hold tight and pray that we see a reversal soon. So much for that short squeeze we were expecting....
Oh I think we ARE seeing the effects of the squeeze, and "they" are scared for once
There is no news out and nothing has changed... Why the drop?...
Posted by dog on :
Luckily.. I no longer have that issue.
I can only blame myself.....
Posted by dog on :
I'm just pissed that the shorties are getting away!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
There is no way they will completely cover today. Gut tells me 10k soon...It is also calling for a Milky Way so it could be lieing just to get one.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus did say that the shorts would have a chance to cover didn't he?.....
Might explain why we lost our $1.00 stop that we have been enjoying! Cause all of a sudden it was GONE!
-Just thinking out loud...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I'm just pissed that the shorties are getting away!
Didn't Rufas say that he would "give the shorts a chance to cover"? Would you want to "reset" your stock to have it automatically shorted...from the get go?
Posted by portman on :
lotsa buys on ask...no movement
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL Chart...Great minds...
Posted by SYGY on :
i wanna see this move up just as fast!!! as down WTF! today
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: -When the going gets tough....
...the tough get calls from their spouses saying "WTF is up with YOUR stock"?
;-)
My gut says I have placed my trust in a pink that is sure to let me down again, but I am gonna hold tight and pray that we see a reversal soon. So much for that short squeeze we were expecting....
Oh I think we ARE seeing the effects of the squeeze, and "they" are scared for once
There is no news out and nothing has changed... Why the drop?...
I think you are right - should have specified my reference to the hope that the price would rise on them trying to cover. I, too, would rather grit my teeth and let them cover now than walk the price back down after the reset....
Posted by luvforever on :
Just wanted to tell everyone what a great job on dd they have done. How you all seemed to look out for each other and helped reassure each other when it seemed bad. How you seemed to make a nice lil family here..sniff, sniff..and how you look out for each other, etc. Haven't seen that with any other stock or board. now that is precious and I appreciate how you have made me feel welcome also...sniff...sniff...blows nose I wish you all the luck and maybe a tenfold payout is coming your way for all the hard work and kindness.Maybe even more... Posted by dog on :
I'm not the kinda guy that gets off on the misfortunes of others. I'm not really concerned about how others do it... I'm only concerned about MY backend, and if I can lend a little honest DD and fact for others to use in their decision-making.. I am blessed.
You guys have been great, good enough to keep me in the game.
Everything points to a 10K coming, only direct news that it's not will make your investment worthless. Right now every share is worth at least a dollar, and if your share average is less than that... I'd stop sweating.
The current price means ****... it's public opinion, and it's been beaten to death by the shorties, bashers and MM's.
We knew this would happen in the backs of our minds.. so deal with it. Get out if you are too uncomfortable, but you would be getting out without accurate facts in DD... the truth is what brought you here in the first place..
the truth will set you free... rich or poor after this LOL
Posted by SYGY on :
ok take my shares damn it ,,.62 OH THATS 100.62 lol!!!!!holding till 10k
Posted by unclerudy on :
Nice Dune reference in your sig Portman.
Posted by luvforever on :
sygy the dream ...it's coming... wait imo remember the dd remember the 10k must come out!! sometime.. Posted by portman on :
Rufus..."you mussssstttt ssshhaaare with usssssss."
lol...price today does not matter. Only the price after 10K matters.
Posted by SYGY on :
right after bell today we hear something ,,and those that sold gonna CRY!!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Just wanted to tell everyone what a great job on dd they have done. How you all seemed to look out for each other and helped reassure each other when it seemed bad. How you seemed to make a nice lil family here..sniff, sniff..and how you look out for each other, etc. Haven't seen that with any other stock or board. now that is precious and I appreciate how you have made me feel welcome also...sniff...sniff...blows nose I wish you all the luck and maybe a tenfold payout is coming your way for all the hard work and kindness.Maybe even more...
This board is really awesome - I barely bother with any others, save one. My naivete' tends to get me into trouble on occasion, but I have learned a great deal from people here - and you generally can tell those who are genuine and willing to help.
Posted by portman on :
They want to break us for tomorrow...time is short...heh.
Posted by portman on :
here's the dump.
Posted by luvforever on :
My eod at 4pm is .632 anyone?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
what if...
If I remember correctly I thought somebody said that if after the name change you sold BUT before the name change was "official" (within that 3 day time frame) the shares that were sold were actually shorted.
What if the shorting part wasn't actually true but instead the sells were piling up until the official date and they all hit at the same time.
The 3 day settlement date affects both ends, both the buy and sell to avoid the shorting issue. If I remember correctly you can't short unless you have a margin account so how could you short without a margin account just because you decided to sell what hadn't settled yet?
Does any of that make sense? I've been here tooo long.
Com 'mon Rufus.
Posted by 4Given on :
we must wait for canadians to be on board........right.
Posted by luvforever on :
Hopefully after the canadins are on board the stampeed begins!!! Posted by SherriT on :
Oops - duped it...
Posted by Vin on :
The mere fact that I'm still on this stock is testimony to this board. To all my brothers and sisters still holding, good luck to us all! Posted by luvforever on :
Any takes, not that price matters.LOL eod predictions? Posted by SherriT on :
SYGY, did your shares convert yet?
Posted by SYGY on :
no!!
Posted by dog on :
If we all lose out... you are all welcome at my place for hard alcohol and community sobbing.
Posted by ruthie on :
well, at eod I always think that tomorrow will certainly be a better day with this stock. I fugure it HAS to go up. Right? Then the next day...........
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: SYGY, did your shares convert yet?
So Sygy...You are the reason for this mess?....LOL J/K Posted by luvforever on :
Thanks dog! That's what I mean about this board love you guys and gals.LOL Posted by SYGY on :
no!
Posted by unclerudy on :
Looks like whoever sold today is not going to be having a party with hookers and blow from the profits.
Posted by 4Given on :
Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago?? Posted by Chartwalker on :
darn... missed all the group hugs! LOL ~ Was away from computer. 10of13.. I had a laugh at our statements too
This board does ROCK!!
Posted by dog on :
It will drop initially with no news....if no news = buying opportunity.
Posted by SYGY on :
ok! so if you bought before symble change ''if your not long on this wouldn't you of sold prior!! yesterday and today is all f-up thats clear!!23 million float i just don't believe anything but MANIPULATION OF SOME SORT!!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
Posted by dog on :
Do I dare look over at iHub?
Posted by ruthie on :
Maybe if I stay away from my computer for a few days, I will have a pleasant surprise..Not sure if I can do that though. This stock has gotten under my skin.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Do I dare look over at iHub?
Take a club to beat off the bashers if you go...
Posted by dog on :
Hey...I'm down 15 grand, more like "crushing blow to the skull"...
Treatment : anesthetize the area... oh... hello Bacardi.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Here is the buys v sells today:
FINAL:
buys: 2,281,663 sells: 2,202,465
Posted by SYGY on :
something on traders corner about meeting with Rufus (BUT NOT SURE YET)pal talk
Posted by SYGY on :
i quess maybe NOT!
Posted by Hustla on :
This wasn't just bloodshed for all CSHD'ers holding today...it was total massacre. I gotta give it to all of you who held. WOW!!!
Be strong folks better days are coming with this stock. Man, I'm still amazed at what happened today.
GLTA
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Now where it my favorite frosted mug at?..."
Catch you tomorrow board! Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Hustla: This wasn't just bloodshed for all CSHD'ers holding today...it was total massacre. I gotta give it to all of you who held. WOW!!!
Be strong folks better days are coming with this stock. Man, I'm still amazed at what happened today.
GLTA
It was definately painful, but a lesson in patience for sure...I think this was just a warm up. We don't see some concrete news or a reset in a week or two, and the women here will need a sex change for the balls required to hold.
Posted by dog on :
Just put an order in to buy more in the morning . . yes, I'm sick like that.
Worked so far in my life, gotta take chances every now and then. I'm definitely outside of my comfort zone.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Here is the buys v sells today:
FINAL:
buys: 2,281,663 sells: 2,202,465
where does one get that data?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
and were the other 79,198 just one sided transactions? i'm an accountant, lol...i can't follow that logic...are these numbers just related to above and below bid or ask?
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Here is the buys v sells today:
FINAL:
buys: 2,281,663 sells: 2,202,465
where does one get that data?
Tex are you in on this play? I know you Mod but you've barely said a word all day. Or maybe its because I was away most of the day
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I had my eyes closed did we close at +50% * $1.26 like my "gut feeling" said it would? ....
Awww chit!!! That is it! My gut is getting a feeling-ectomy!
Posted by dog on :
Supposed Paltalk at 8pm. If so I'll set up vetrilo broadcast with direct wiring... aka, it will be clearer.
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Hustla: This wasn't just bloodshed for all CSHD'ers holding today...it was total massacre. I gotta give it to all of you who held. WOW!!!
Be strong folks better days are coming with this stock. Man, I'm still amazed at what happened today.
GLTA
We don't see some concrete news or a reset in a week or two, and the women here will need a sex change for the balls required to hold.
Funniest post of the day goes to SherriT...lmao
Posted by luvforever on :
Chart you didn't miss any they'll be plenty more at the party!! After the magic takes place LOL Posted by luvforever on :
UGh never mind that sounded a lil off LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Supposed Paltalk at 8pm. If so I'll set up vetrilo broadcast with direct wiring... aka, it will be clearer.
I don't want him on PalTalk, I want him on PR Newswire, or Edgar, or SEC.gov or any place of any matter. iHub and PalTalk is not it. Posted by SYGY on :
dog from what i see at paltalk no meeting!! just bs
Posted by luvforever on :
over at ihub that bud guy said hed be giving out password with princess did i see right hes baaack lol Posted by sansotta on :
hope we are near the bottom for the time being, because I'm placing a large buy order for the am. If anyone thinks this is a bad decision please bop me on the head before we open.
Posted by luvforever on :
43853 # there but i think just a meeting among stockholders that want some info or gossip?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
just so no one asks for it...
Posted by cool AZ on :
At these prices, I want to get all I can ... time for me to take inventory ... think I'll be buying more at these prices! Just got the feeling there is something iminent .. could break-out anytime. Don't want to be less than prepared ... off to Scottrade! Later.
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better .... Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Dude...we closed down 24.4%...the last trade that made it an uptick...not green was only 329 shares...and was at .66
and honestly it did sound as if you may have been refering to another stock from the way that first post was worded...
Posted by skip on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: Here is the buys v sells today:
FINAL:
buys: 2,281,663 sells: 2,202,465
where does one get that data?
I would like to know where to get that kind of data as well...
Posted by SYGY on :
we're waiting for the room assignment for CSHD - password is "princess"
Posted by luvforever on :
is mr. ruffie gonna be there too? tia
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: Dude...we closed down 24.4%...the last trade that made it an uptick...not green was only 329 shares...and was at .66
and honestly it did sound as if you may have been refering to another stock from the way that first post was worded...
not a dude here...... sorry if it were offensive, I just do not see how it would have been. this is a great company, no one loses until sold, just trying to put some positive into this, today's down day do'es not affect the outcome of where I want this to go. this could go to a penny and my mind will not change until there is news to prove it. Posted by thecon00 on :
I NOT A BASHER AND HAVE NOT SOLD. CHECK THE IHUB PG. ONE IM THERE!
Posted by SYGY on :
i quess it's on at 8pm not sure the room but pasword is there -re paltalk meeting
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: is mr. ruffie gonna be there too? tia
I'm sure he'll call in from the Cayman Islands or wherever he's gone. What a scam.
Posted by milliam on :
Smelly, can we expect you to turn sides again if the 10k comes out?
I don't blame you for getting out, that's probably the right thing for you. I don't think you need to come in here pumping the scam theory though.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Smelly, can we expect you to turn sides again if the 10k comes out?
I don't blame you for getting out, that's probably the right thing for you. I don't think you need to come in here pumping the scam theory though.
You're absolultey right - I apologize for stating that I felt it is a 'scam' outloud. That was my emotions getting the better of me and it was wrong to do so.
I will not be re-purchasing shares in CSHD, I don't believe that if the 10K does come out that it will fully represent what Rufus has publicly stated. I have my reasons - but you're right, this is a civilized board and again I should not have been so rude.
I truly hope you all make money on this, I've done my DD and am not comfortable holding a position. GLTA and peace.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Idea: Thinking about gathering $$$ from where ever I can and putting it on the side, then when the 10k hits BUY LIKE A DOG!!!!!!! LOL ~
Q. Can I get the $$$ in there in time??? Talk about QUICK/EASY money!!!
MUH HU HA HA ......
Hey looks like I'll be buying more as soon as the tansfer clears! Yes!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Is this meeting 8PM Eastern, Central, or Cayman Island Time? LOL I now know where Smelly got his name... sometimes his attitude stinks.
Posted by milliam on :
Uncle Smelly, that's more what I expected. I do hope you're wrong, but I respect your decision to get out.
Care to share what DD made you un-comfortable?
Thanks for keeping it civilized...and good luck to you!
good post here...not sure if it's already been shown...tells about Darryl Horton...CVSU's CFO...I think I may have seen this info before though...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't know why I am asking I am not going to be able to make it anyway. got chit to do. Someone listen in and let us all know if we missed anything beyond "Red Day" complaints.
Smelly, I am glad you appologised for the outloud "scam" comment. (Not really necessary if it is your real thoughts.) But I would really be interested in why or what you have found that has you now so uneasy now?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better ....
I think you misunderstood me....I really did think you were accidentally on the wrong board. I have a large % of my penny money here, and am keeping it here. One thing you will learn about me as our paths cross - I am not now, nor will I ever be a basher. Mama always says "if you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"....words to live by. GLTY!
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better ....
I think you misunderstood me....I really did think you were accidentally on the wrong board. I have a large % of my penny money here, and am keeping it here. One thing you will learn about me as our paths cross - I am not now, nor will I ever be a basher. Mama always says "if you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"....words to live by. GLTY!
Posted by thecon00 on :
fryyguyy -
Where can i get this info from? buys: 2,281,663 sells: 2,202,465
thank you in advance.
-CON Member
Posted by portman on :
Two things...If I misjudged you Con...all the better Sorry for doing so.
Uncle Smelly, all the best... hope to be in another stock with you someday.
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better ....
I think you misunderstood me....I really did think you were accidentally on the wrong board. I have a large % of my penny money here, and am keeping it here. One thing you will learn about me as our paths cross - I am not now, nor will I ever be a basher. Mama always says "if you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"....words to live by. GLTY!
good words to live by. sorry if I come off as a dumb blonde, I actually have a degree. my hubby gave me his shares in this and two other penny's and I don't have the pressure I know some of you do. sorry for mentioning the "B" word and know that you are not !!! I have been following your and everyones posts here. and appreciate the DD everyone put in this. this baby is going to move, where my husband gets his info Im not sure but he picks a few winners every year and do'es very well. good luck to us all, however, my husband say's this is gonna go, well, it will gooo. Posted by dog on :
Wow, a guy takes a nap and all hell breaks loose.
I don't get it... nothing different than yesterday or last week....
We meeting in a chatroom with a Princess or something... what's all this about?
Just gimme a chance to wake up and catch up.
Posted by dog on :
What room on Paltalk?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
From Pal talk: "The deleted message..." Sounds like a whiner to me!! ========================================= Posted by: txprincess7 In reply to: bud750 who wrote msg# 43853 Date:8/16/2006 5:50:53 PM Post #of 43997
As of today I have lost $9,833.00 and enough is enough. This post is not to the bashers of this stock as I think they are a gang within themselves nor it is directed to the day flippers. I have not listened to the bashers nor do I even bother reading their posts unless they directly use my name. Many day flippers are nice people and that is just their style of trading and more power to them. This meeting is not about you or your style of trading.
This decision is based solely on things that have come to the surface this past week. More and more it seems that proper answers and communication have vanished. I know some of you will say that they were waiting for certs to be distibuted. Well as of August 14th,2006 DTC distributed the certs. No one has any control over when a broker posts accounts but the key here is the certs were distributed at the same time to all brokers.
I got into this stock solely because of Rufus Paul Harris and I was foolish enough to believe every word he said about the direction and the future of this stock. At our first shareholds meeting someone asked him why FHAL and he responded they were in the right place at the right time. Now we find out after the last Paltalk meeting that BBan players were involved with FHAL. If I had been told that to begin with I never would have touched this stock. At first I was impressed with the way he stood up to the bashers/shorters naively thinking he was protecting long term serious investors. The actions of the company and the lack of answers regarding several areas that are important to us have not been answered. I listened to the first shareholder meeting notes again and Mr. Harris was quite clear that this would all be done between July 28th and August 1st. Many of us justified the delay saying it was out of their hands mostly because we wanted to believe him. The fact is if he didn't know those delays would happen then he SHOULD have known those delays would happen.
He asked us all to submit basher material for a lawsuit he claimed he was going to pursue. Many of us faithful longs spent hours getting him that information. The fact remains if he did pursue a lawsuit against them naming us as hurt individuals we would see nothing. You can't get blood out of a turnip...simple Texas talk. In the end the only thing that cost us money was him not doing what he said he was going to do in the first place.
On Sunday I was sent a Instant Message from someone posing as Mr. Harris. I became suspicious as this person typed away and called Mr. Harris's cell phone number. He as usual did not answer. I left a message asking if he was on Paltalk and asked that he call me and let me know. A few minutes later a woman called me saying she was his assistant and that it wasn't him. I notified a few other people in the room that this person was a fake and pretty soon they admitted it. One of the persons in that room said they got his ISP number. The next day I find out that about the same time my computer had been hacked into and an email I had sent to Mr. Harris was posted on a **** site giving my email address and full name. You can't iamgine how upset I was. I have no way of knowing what other personal information they hacked from my computer. Several people on the board tried to help me protect my computer and I have a computer tech coming to do a more indepth investigation to see if we can track who did this.
By this time I was pretty upset and many things were coming to light. The reality of what took place this last month was like waking up. Like many of you I still was hoping against hope that this was the "real thing" and I thought I will give it one last opportunity. I knew the certs were going to be distributed Monday, August 14th and I thought if the 10K appears or a PR telling us it had been submitted maybe there was one last hope that this was legit. As we know that did not take place. Ths like the answers to the bond quesiton JJ posed...still no answers.
I tried calling Mr. Harris multiple times and didn't get one single response. The fact is he has never answered any calls I have made to him. I then got Mr. Stanley and by this time between my computer being hacked, no 10K and no PR I was terribly upset. When I told Mr. Stanley how upset I was I got the same stock answer he used so flipply in the Paltalk room. "It's being executed,, we're executing, we'll just exucute when the time is right, we're a executing." Guess what folks that isn't a professional answer from a COO of a company. I am an investor who put in $20,258.00 and that is not an adequate answer.
I then called Maurice Bennett the attorney and left word that I was worried about the stock price falling, no 10K and that my computer had been hacked into and I needed some answers. No response. I then called back again and this time I said my computer was hacked into and I feared that maybe Mr. Harris might have the same problem. Then I got a call back from someone in the firm saying he would call me. When he didn't call I called back and this time was put through to him. I told him the entire story about how I got involved in this stock. I asked him if this was a scam and his response was "oh no, no, you just need to settle down. Get your nerves under control." Not once did he say the 10K is done, on it's way, in process...nothing. I gave him all the information about the hacker and the information that was forwarded to me about it. I gave him the WEB site. He said he was going to contact Mr. Harris immediately and arrange a conference call and asked if I would be home. I told him "yes" and then he said they would call me back in one hour. No call ever came. I finally left a message on his work message that I had had it and was going to get legal advise. This morning the pps kept going down and again I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt and I called numerous times and no response. I finally was able to sell half of my investment to salvage some money. My loss is still almost 50% of what I put into this. I cannot afford to lose that much money because Mr. Harris did not keep his word.
It was at that time a few shareholders called me and we decided to do something positive. Bud750 has set us up a Paltalk room and sent out a notice to all of you. If this Mr. Harris isn't going to do what he said in the first place we need to organize and figure out a course of action. The room will be limited to those that want to recoup loses they have based on Mr. Harris's promises and projections. If you didn't lose money on this stock and never held a position you will not be allowed to be in the room. Bud is going to set up a password that authorized people can use to enter. Together we can arrive a plan of action and decide who will do what
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
This was deleted on IHUB...the post is no longer there or I would post a link...
Sounds like this lady is just being kind of a crybaby not weighing the risks and all that...
Oh...and it doesn't look like there is going to be a Paltalk with Rufy...just txprincess7 and a bunch of like minded folks...
I do not endorse nor agree with the following messege, lol...
HAHA...look above this post for the deleted txprincess7 post I'm refering to...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
The "deal" isn't even done yet one way or the other... How can you sue? And you wonder why Rufus doesn't answer his phone! ha ~
Sounds like a whack job this txprincess... IMO
Posted by sansotta on :
i wish i could sue anytime i lost $$ on a forward looking statement.
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: The "deal" isn't even done yet one way or the other... How can you sue? And you wonder why Rufus doesn't answer his phone! ha ~
Sounds like a whack job this txprincess... IMO
Yes, what a wack job.
FHAL -> CSHD -> $15/share -> Strattelites and Blimps in the air offering WiFi Internet service partnered with GTEL and crazy Ivan Russians in Siberia will be the next PR on this puppy.
Good luck to all.
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
It amazes me the amount of rationalization people support themselves and each other with.
I could tell you guys the sky is blue and you'd say, you're crazy!!!
Posted by dog on :
RPH's phone must be ringin off the hook... that's what you get when you let every yahoo in the universe know your cell number.... geez
If you can't live with the money you put up and lost... shut th f**k up! Do you go to the pit boss in Vegas and ***** when the dealer pulls a 21?
There is no recourse to sue, unless rules were broken, and the SEC will let the public know. I just don't think these young guys are willing to be in a 6x6 with Bubba as a roommate for the next 25 years.
We haven't heard a thing yet... it sux, I know . . . I'm down 15 grand, but I haven't lost until I sell.
Lemme get this straight... Bud750 goes from being Rufus' buddy , to a revolutionary hero leading the fight against corporate tyrrany? I just don't get it... sounds like weird manipulation to me.
I am about ready to stop talkin about this thing all together, keepin my eyes peeled for a PR or a 10K.
I don't need to go into a room full of hysterical people who are freakin out without the end of the game in site. If you sold your shares... give us some factual DD, other than you were tired of waiting. Last I checked, Rufus was not my life partner, and isn't gonna call me every time he has a hiccup.
I understand if people are getting cold feet... losing money is not easy, but putting up your house for the pie in the sky deal of all time based on trusting someone is the bonehead move of all time.
Have a drink and relax... plan how you are going to make the money back. No one twisted your arm to join this...
I'm more worried about my friend who has $130,000 in this . . .it makes me feel better.. (sorry RS), but it ain't over. It's the 4th quarter with freezing rain and muddy conditions, I will not sit on the bench and ***** about it!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by sansotta: i wish i could sue anytime i lost $$ on a forward looking statement.
Supposedly Mr. Harris guaranteed folks $15 per share. Be careful of what you write and never write anything you wouldn't want anyone to read. This, if proven, could in fact bite Mr. Harris in the arse. But as stated in an earlier post, the transactions aren't yet complete so I do not believe now is the time to take action.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: It amazes me the amount of rationalization people support themselves and each other with.
I could tell you guys the sky is blue and you'd say, you're crazy!!!
You appear at only the bad times...if you get off on it fine...do it on IHUB...
Firstly, it is not your money so STFU. Secondly, <rinse, wash and repeat).
Posted by MagicK on :
"I could tell you guys the sky is blue and you'd say, you're crazy!!!"
Actually, we would. The sky is not blue, it is the reflection of water molecules which makes it appear that there even is a sky...and one that's blue.
Posted by dog on :
I hope there is no news and this thing drops to .18, cuz I'll be ready . . . so will the shorts that we let back in the game cuz we decided to get weak.
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: RPH's phone must be ringin off the hook... that's what you get when you let every yahoo in the universe know your cell number.... geez
If you can't live with the money you put up and lost... shut th f**k up! Do you go to the pit boss in Vegas and ***** when the dealer pulls a 21?
There is no recourse to sue, unless rules were broken, and the SEC will let the public know. I just don't think these young guys are willing to be in a 6x6 with Bubba as a roommate for the next 25 years.
We haven't heard a thing yet... it sux, I know . . . I'm down 15 grand, but I haven't lost until I sell.
Lemme get this straight... Bud750 goes from being Rufus' buddy , to a revolutionary hero leading the fight against corporate tyrrany? I just don't get it... sounds like weird manipulation to me.
I am about ready to stop talkin about this thing all together, keepin my eyes peeled for a PR or a 10K.
I don't need to go into a room full of hysterical people who are freakin out without the end of the game in site. If you sold your shares... give us some factual DD, other than you were tired of waiting. Last I checked, Rufus was not my life partner, and isn't gonna call me every time he has a hiccup.
I understand if people are getting cold feet... losing money is not easy, but putting up your house for the pie in the sky deal of all time based on trusting someone is the bonehead move of all time.
Have a drink and relax... plan how you are going to make the money back. No one twisted your arm to join this...
I'm more worried about my friend who has $130,000 in this . . .it makes me feel better.. (sorry RS), but it ain't over. It's the 4th quarter with freezing rain and muddy conditions, I will not sit on the bench and ***** about it!
Now I can offer respect to that post. Cheers to you Dog! At least you aren't bullsh*ting yourself and others.
Posted by P Rowds on :
.18 is pretty low... i didn't mind the lingering dollar range:D
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by MagicK: "I could tell you guys the sky is blue and you'd say, you're crazy!!!"
Actually, we would. The sky is not blue, it is the reflection of water molecules which makes it appear that there even is a sky...and one that's blue.
I see that you've missed entirely the point of my post.
All in a days rationalizing. Keep up the good work.
Posted by dog on :
I guess I should have called Rufus' cell phone to get the timeline, cuz I knew if it took this long.. the price would drop. Could've waited and bought $30 G's at 30 cents instead of at 97 cents and had 3 times the shares I have now.
Hey can I sue somebody for this too?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I hope there is no news and this thing drops to .18, cuz I'll be ready . . . so will the shorts that we let back in the game cuz we decided to get weak.
Speak for yourself dog. I accumulated more myself and hope this stock goes up to 2 dollars before the reset to $15.
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better ....
LMFAO * "goe's"
What.the.hell???????
Posted by dog on :
I am Money, truly I'm not meaning to upset anybody, but I am used to being in situations where cooler heads prevail. You know if there is no news tonite that most seem like they are going to freak....
People just dealing with emotions . . .gimme something real to sink my teeth into.
Like I said before... if this doesn't go thru.. we will see a negative press release and the price will drop so fast that no one will be saved.
Everyone will make their own decision, don't listen to me or anyone else.
I just abhor the hysterics....
Posted by glassman on :
hey absolut, don't you have some flies to go pull the wings off of or something Posted by 4Given on :
My goodness, canada needs to be able to trade thier stocks, rufus also stated everyone will be on board. unfortunatley, this stock is in trouble, lack of confidence. it might go down more because of lack of communication with management. this stock is not ready, the canadians need to be able to trade, he has made this fair for all traders. BUT, he needs to keep his current shareholders informed, this is now a public company. in a sense it is bad bussiness, but maybe after 10-k he will feel more comfy with talking to us. Posted by dog on :
Well..I'm sure I have something wrong with me, but being anonymously judged on the internet doesn't really get my dander up.
C'mon Absolut.. don't go there.
I've been watching mispellings for the last 3 weeks and it doesn't detract from the content.
Posted by dog on :
TRUE! 4... again.. the transfer is not complete until all certs are accounted for by the DTC.
My clock will start ticking then....
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: hey absolut, don't you have some flies to go pull the wings off of or something
lol.
Ok, enough with the making fun of the horribly bad grammar. I get very annoyed by bad grammar because in print it just makes the person look even more uneducated and illiterate than they might really be.
Nasty. Ok, well good luck with your stock everyone.
Posted by 4Given on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 4Given: Yesssss, we closed in the green. didn't this happen at this price a few weeks ago??
You are very definately on the wrong thread...today was bloodshed on this stock....
you are so negative, glad I don't have your bashing attitude, yes you are right, big down day, we could have closed with a red or down tic, be thankful at least that was positive. sorry for the post was not uplifting for YOU............ hope the rest of your day goe's better ....
LMFAO * "goe's"
What.the.hell???????
YOU need to pull the wings off of flies, don't worry about my typing, be a good little girl and go away...... Posted by dollar13 on :
i might buy back this stock when goes down to $0.15 ,looks like is going to be soon. Posted by GreenDay on :
I found this on ihub. Anybody know anything about this????
PEOPLE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE IPO QUITE PERIOD. RUFUS IS NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO SHAREHOLDERS FOR THREE DAYS PROIR TO THE 10K RELEASE
Posted by dog on :
OK more DD to do people... let's find out if this is true...
Posted by glassman on :
try to stick to the stock folks...
Posted by portman on :
not an IPO...but I do not doubt his lawyers want him quiet...and yes I would expect it to be very quiet before the release.
Posted by dog on :
In our society, we adore and put on a pedestal the idea of Capitalism. Most people here are Republican Conservatives who live by Capitalism as your main religion. Capitalism is beautiful because a person can attain independent wealth by working hard for themselves and earning their way into independence. No Capitalist wants to give someone else a free ride. Capitalists hate taxes! They hate legislation that requires them to pay welfare or support or equal wages to lowly workers making minimum wage. Capitalism is all about greed! Right??
So, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Wait, one last thing:
In our society, we adore and put on a pedestal the idea of Capitalism. Most people here are Republican Conservatives who live by Capitalism as your main religion. Capitalism is beautiful because a person can attain independent wealth by working hard for themselves and earning their way into independence. No Capitalist wants to give someone else a free ride. Capitalists hate taxes! They hate legislation that requires them to pay welfare or support or equal wages to lowly workers making minimum wage. Capitalism is all about greed! Right??
So, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
absolut... he never said he was buying back... for as much as you post, have you read past posts? He only guaranteed resetting the price at 15 a share. now how long that will hold...? the market will decide that as we all know. sooooo, no buyback... just a reset. understand? if that was the basis of your irritability for this stock... then get informed...
Posted by dog on :
P Rowds . . . is it your understanding that a quiet period does not apply here due to the reverse merger status?
Posted by GreenDay on :
Yea, I know not an IPO but the price reset sorta falls under similar regualtions, right? I wonder if there is any kind of gag rule before a 10K in the type of transaction we are doing?? most likely not, but I'll keep dd'in...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I found this on ihub. Anybody know anything about this????
PEOPLE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE IPO QUITE PERIOD. RUFUS IS NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO SHAREHOLDERS FOR THREE DAYS PROIR TO THE 10K RELEASE
I'll join the crowd and DD this point but something sticks out about this. Remember a while back Rufus was asked to go into Paltalk and he said he would call back later? Then, his lawyer called and said something along the lines of "Due to upcoming events Mr Harris can not speak with the shareholders right now". Maybe at that time they thought they were almost ready to release the 10k and thats why they declined. Some problems obviously occured and delayed it but maybe we are in the same situation today.
Gosh, i hope i didnt make too many grammar errors.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: P Rowds . . . is it your understanding that a quiet period does not apply here due to the reverse merger status?
Im not sure this applies the same as an IPO but does it say the quiet period is before or after the reset? It says "from"....
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Wait, one last thing:
In our society, we adore and put on a pedestal the idea of Capitalism. Most people here are Republican Conservatives who live by Capitalism as your main religion. Capitalism is beautiful because a person can attain independent wealth by working hard for themselves and earning their way into independence. No Capitalist wants to give someone else a free ride. Capitalists hate taxes! They hate legislation that requires them to pay welfare or support or equal wages to lowly workers making minimum wage. Capitalism is all about greed! Right??
So, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
glassman Member
posted 16 August, 2006 19:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- try to stick to the stock folks...
Posted by dog on :
Don't know if this helps... see this section.
14. Quiet period a. Quiet period begins when the registration statement is filed with the SEC. b. Company cannot give information to potential investors that is not in the prospectus
As long as he talked about only the things in the prospectus... he's ok
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Wait, one last thing:
In our society, we adore and put on a pedestal the idea of Capitalism. Most people here are Republican Conservatives who live by Capitalism as your main religion. Capitalism is beautiful because a person can attain independent wealth by working hard for themselves and earning their way into independence. No Capitalist wants to give someone else a free ride. Capitalists hate taxes! They hate legislation that requires them to pay welfare or support or equal wages to lowly workers making minimum wage. Capitalism is all about greed! Right??
So, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
absolut... he never said he was buying back... for as much as you post, have you read past posts? He only guaranteed resetting the price at 15 a share. now how long that will hold...? the market will decide that as we all know. sooooo, no buyback... just a reset. understand? if that was the basis of your irritability for this stock... then get informed...
It's my cynical, contrary nature that leads me not to believe the price of a stock can be reset and all the while before this event tons of shareholders can purchase stock at sub penny prices to have them magically reset at a 1500% gain.
But I truly feel bad for everyone holding this stock and I'm just a little irritated or maybe more frustrated. I will stop posting on this thread and leave the longs be.
Good luck.
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: P Rowds . . . is it your understanding that a quiet period does not apply here due to the reverse merger status?
not too sure dog, but i was going to post and clarify that this isn't an IPO... so not all those rules will apply. however, someone brought up that they are sure his lawyer would want him quiet and i believe that too be true. if you think about it, when this first started... rufus was spewing out information... now that this is getting down to the wire, i can definately foresee rufus not saying too much just to cover his ass. i do agree that shareholders need to be "in the know" but, i don't agree shareholders need a PR everytime a price drops stating, "it's ok, everything will be alright." we should all know that things take time but i am definately watching close and almost exited today... with shaky ppl on board, god knows how low this may go IMO. However, as rufus stated... he doesn't care what the pps is at before the reset... so i guess thats food for thought...
Posted by dog on :
When you get paid is not in the prospectus...
Posted by atomictraders on :
What i the heck is going on, all non-pumping post on i hub are getting deleted and I can't find the HSM thread, this stock is a massive fiasco tonite. Major haircut for CSHD in the AM. ARggggg!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
maumee river rat Member
posted August 16, 2006 09:58 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember a couple weeks ago when I said that it could go for the .60 level.....I think we are gunna see it ....Support today around .62.....
Man this pizzez me off!!! __________________________________________________
I didn't mean it!!!!!
What a biotch!!! Sorry gang!! I'll keep my thoughts to myself from now on....
Truth is ..... Support was breached..... I will rip the charts up in a bit and toss a thought out at ya.... (for what it's worth)
I'll be back in a bit....I hope..
God! I hate commin home to see this much carnage.. Especially when I saw it commin'...
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:Originally posted by dog: P Rowds . . . is it your understanding that a quiet period does not apply here due to the reverse merger status?
not too sure dog, but i was going to post and clarify that this isn't an IPO... so not all those rules will apply. however, someone brought up that they are sure his lawyer would want him quiet and i believe that too be true. if you think about it, when this first started... rufus was spewing out information... now that this is getting down to the wire, i can definately foresee rufus not saying too much just to cover his ass. i do agree that shareholders need to be "in the know" but, i don't agree shareholders need a PR everytime a price drops stating, "it's ok, everything will be alright." we should all know that things take time but i am definately watching close and almost exited today... with shaky ppl on board, god knows how low this may go IMO. However, as rufus stated... he doesn't care what the pps is at before the reset... so i guess thats food for thought...
I'd prefer silence to "it's ok..everythings alright".
That's the kiss before getting fu****.
It only pacifies the simple minded... gimme the 10K in the next week....
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea dog, thats what i was trying to say earlier. Im tired of the same old spoon fed unofficial information that has been thrown our way to appease us temporarily. If they dont have concrete news then they should just hold off til they do.
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
quote: o, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
Because they can dilute at 15.00 and make 1500% more than diluting at .50.
Posted by dog on :
Hey CAT... I would just shut up, then put up... I think Rufus warned us that it's going to get bumpy.
I don't see how these guys made any money out of this deal so far... the monster pay off is in the backend for them. They can't just cash the bond and run off to the Caymen's like people are alluding to.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Agreed. I think the methods of them "getting paid and running off" have been beatin to death. I havent seen one good explaination as to how they made out on this deal thus far.
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by atomictraders: What i the heck is going on, all non-pumping post on i hub are getting deleted and I can't find the HSM thread, this stock is a massive fiasco tonite. Major haircut for CSHD in the AM. ARggggg!
could it be because it's all nonsense posting... i rarely see a good post quoted here with good DD...
Posted by P Rowds on :
and for all those that claim rufus isn't sticking to his word.... i do remember hearing an interview from him saying, something on the lines, well who knows... maybe we won't even release the 10k before the ticker change. maybe we'll do it afterword. sooooo, that knocks that out. Remember... i could be wrong, but i do remember him saying that.... i think...
Posted by dog on :
Hey where's BB? She always seems to dig up something juicy. Maybe we should send her down to Georgia as an emissary. I'm sure Rufus would at least say "Howdy". Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Absolut_Swing: Wait, one last thing:
In our society, we adore and put on a pedestal the idea of Capitalism. Most people here are Republican Conservatives who live by Capitalism as your main religion. Capitalism is beautiful because a person can attain independent wealth by working hard for themselves and earning their way into independence. No Capitalist wants to give someone else a free ride. Capitalists hate taxes! They hate legislation that requires them to pay welfare or support or equal wages to lowly workers making minimum wage. Capitalism is all about greed! Right??
So, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
hahahaahahahhahah...you would be very surpised here....clearly you do not read here enough.
Posted by P Rowds on :
alright, i'm going to the gym... i'll check back in later tonight. you guys have fun and good luck to us all tomorrow... (pretty sure we'll need it)
oh, i do hope everyone *does* have an exit plan... i'm fortunate, got in early, just losing profits so not a big deal to me. but i'm seeing alot of "reassurement" by others... you don't want to end up making premature accusations like txprincess... i know most of you know this, but just afraid some are "falling in love" with the stock... thats all
Posted by cassity on :
Damn, you boys have been busy this evening! I'm not worried YET. Very, very, very, impatient people. There is always tomorrow! GBE
Posted by portman on :
PR is right with the exit plan...unlike IHUB I see most here prepare....because all the old timers and some of the newer drum it in to you from the start.
Posted by dog on :
Yup... I'm going to chill out, then check the newswire just before bed....give it a rest people.
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
I bought 300$ worth as a gamble, thinking it would go down quite a bit if no news. I figured I was in enough to make good money if it opened at 15$.
Now I can buy more and have the same potential. I am learning a little at a time.
How far will it fall?
Posted by betting babe on :
hey dog im here. had a lot of catching up to do!!!
johnny's is my favorite post that ive read. it kinda says it all to the panic-y bunch.
isnt txprincess the chick that mortgaged her house to invest? if i remember correctly.
sounds like the iHub popular clique got a room. it reminds me of school. silly.
Question: if only people that suffered losses are allowed into the palTalk room tonite... how do they prove it? sillllllyz!
absolut must be a teacher, what with the grammatical fanaticism and all.
well, that was kind of a waste of time, so long story short...
nothing happened today eh?
maumee, whats the report? let's remember most news for this company comes on fridays.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
quote: o, tell me this: Why in the HELL would the CEO of a company buy back a bunch of shares for YOUR BENEFIT and give YOU a free ride to hundreds of thousands or even millions without you even lifting so much as a finger in support?????? Not a very Capitalistic ideology, is it?
Get a damn clue, people.
Ok, i'm done.
Because they can dilute at 15.00 and make 1500% more than diluting at .50.
Posted by tyleemary on :
I sold all my 6000 shares * 1.37 awhile back, that I had bought * 0.10
Bought back a measly 1000 share at a buck.
Glad I did not buy more.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I wouldnt say NOTHING happened BB. We did watch CSHD bleed profusely for hours as we could do nothing but watch.
But no, nothing of any importance. I speculated an eod run and eod PR and got skunked.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
So, am i understanding this right? Some folks created a private room to discuss their losses and attempted to invite Rufus to the room?!! Riiiiiiiight
Posted by kolabud on :
My only post from Monday: Okay, I've been reading the posts on this for a while. I've got some issues. First, I am holding CSHD. I would like someone to explain to me how all of the sudden the price will be "reset" to $15 a share. I'm not a trading expert, but that sounds like a reverse spilt. But that is not what is being talked about here. We are talking about a merger where once the company halts trading they will then "reset" the price to $15 pps. That would be awesome we will all make at least 15x our investment. Too good to be true, I argue yes. Then there is the talk about the shorts forced to cover to make it an even more spectacular play, doubtfull. If this were really going to happen wouldnt the big guys be all over this? Why would they just leave all of that pps gain to us penny investors? Maybe their was no issue with selling CSHD in the past couple of days (you know the talk about being cought in a short position if you sold). Maybe the people who were posting that were trying to keep people from selling. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Oh and none of that "come on people what so hard to understand" or "now you starting to get it" crap! Price prediction (remember I'm long) .57 pps 9.1.06
Too bad my average pps is .87 should have listened to myself. It looks like it may all be true!
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by atomictraders: What i the heck is going on, all non-pumping post on i hub are getting deleted and I can't find the HSM thread, this stock is a massive fiasco tonite. Major haircut for CSHD in the AM. ARggggg!
It's not the stock that is a massive fiasco it's some of the people posting about it. Massive bashing and personal insults are what closes threads. CSHD was not the first thread ever closed on HSM. They usually send them to something called the Twilight Zone so that moderators don't have to spend all their time cleaning it up.
As far as Rufus talking, what can he say that hasn't already been said. The last time Rufus and Ben spoke they said the 10K would PROBABLY be out the end of this week. They also said that they would not divulge anything as to an exact time or date. The inference was so as not to give (naked) short positions the advantage of knowing when. This was said right after they had discussed the fact that the DTC did not have any certificates for the new symbol so how were any shares trading.
It has also been stated many times that this is NOT an IPO and those rules do not apply. The basis, for the reset from my understanding is the reorganization which will add assets to the stock and therefore increase it's value. Can this be done? Many say no. Yet Rufus, Ben and their Attorney have said yes. Before any possible reset can occur the 10K followed by the SB4 must be filed.
There is a lot we don't know. There is a lot we do know. Extensive DD has been done by many individuals. No one enjoys seeing a PPS decline and it does create a sense of panic. Those who feel this is too risky should consider selling their positions. Those that feel the Reward is worth the risk will probably hold.
GLTA Wally
Posted by dog on :
Damit... I'm bak. Thawt I wuz thru fer da nite, but I had to see how evryone was doein.
LOL
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
anyone know the password to the CSHD meeting room?
Posted by dog on :
princess
Posted by dog on :
Actually thats not right...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
This is a great read for folks that are having a rough time with the idea of Reverse Mergers. Its amazing how many quesitons ive had or seen the past few weeks that are answered here.
Anyway, i think ill store this one in my favorites........
EDIT : Here are two significant paragraphs. Did someone post this site before? It looks familiar to me now
Tax Implications & Initial Share Price
Almost all Reverse Mergers take advantage of the tax free, stock-for-stock reorganization provision of the Internal Revenue code. Capital gains tax is paid when the individual shareholder sells the stock in the public stock market (usually after the minimum one year holding period for control persons). That is, the shareholders of the newly merged company do not recognize a capital gain until after they sell the stock, even though the stock may have a much greater value after the merger is complete. The timing of the stock sales can be determined by each individual investor to suit their investment or tax consequences.
Once a Reverse Merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, can determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management's ability to relate the company's potential to investors are of key importance. Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock.
Posted by 66inxs on :
mr engineer, about 2 weeks ago tex and myself posted irs code 368 and other links that stated that the BOOK VALUE of the pps could be reset after audit, NOT THE MARKET PRICE. the irs could care less about the market value of a firms stock on their tax returns or financial statements. but what do we know? its probably around page 40 of this thread. feel sorry for the longs but experiences like this made me a day flipper. GLTA
Posted by dog on :
Hey CAT... got to give this to my accountant... I don't have to pay tax on any profits of this stock as long as I don't sell it? Correct?
Posted by 66inxs on :
hey dog what's shakin man? you are right. profits and/or losses on sales of stock are recognized for tax purposes when the stock is actually sold.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: mr engineer, about 2 weeks ago tex and myself posted irs code 368 and other links that stated that the BOOK VALUE of the pps could be reset after audit, NOT THE MARKET PRICE. the irs could care less about the market value of a firms stock on their tax returns or financial statements. but what do we know? its probably around page 40 of this thread. feel sorry for the longs but experiences like this made me a day flipper. GLTA
If you had actually read what Ciatta posted? Please reread this part.
Once a Reverse Merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, can determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management's ability to relate the company's potential to investors are of key importance. Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock
Posted by 66inxs on :
i understand what you are saying wallymac. except the stock in already being traded.
Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock
this has already been done as the pps as actually traded is something like .598 per share. that is what i get out of ciatta's post. the initial price was when chsd opened forr trading imho.
glassman also had a point that even if a mm trades one share at 15.00, that has been meant. also keep in mind that fhal became cvsu became chsd.
very interesting play. many valid observations. however, the final proof is the pps of the stock.
Posted by dog on :
eerrr . . I think it says "initial stock price" hmmm . . . "initial" okay let's get legal . . . in other words:
Main Entry: incipient Part of Speech: adjective Definition: developing Synonyms: basic, beginning, commencing, elementary, embryonic, fundamental, inceptive, inchoate, initial, initiative, initiatory, introductory, nascent, originating, starting Antonyms: full-blown
I particularly like the last one . . . ends in full blown - like the stock.. you perverts
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: i understand what you are saying wallymac. except the stock in already being traded.
Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock
this has already been done as the pps as actually traded is something like .598 per share. that is what i get out of ciatta's post. the initial price was when chsd opened forr trading imho.
glassman also had a point that even if a mm trades one share at 15.00, that has been meant. also keep in mind that fhal became cvsu became chsd.
very interesting play. many valid observations. however, the final proof is the pps of the stock.
This is, of course, if the reverse merger is indeed "complete". I believe that we are currently in the process of a merger and when its complete, the share price will be reviewed.
Then again, im not sure what constitues a "complete" merger. Isnt that why we are waiting on these filings? The merger isnt complete without them correct?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Dog, step awaaaaay from the scotch.
Posted by 66inxs on :
leave it to dog to get right down to the basics. great dd ! keep up the good work !
Posted by dog on :
Sorry so sarcastic . . . but we done been covered all this already . .
I'm tired . . . gimme a 10K and wake me in da mornin
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I know we covered it, but the same questions come almost daily so i was trying to find where it explained all of this. Of course i wasnt expecting a verbage debate.
I can wait one more night....wake me in da morning, then the 10k.
Posted by 66inxs on :
yea dog no more PUI !!!! maybe catia is right and the merger isn't legally "complete" yet. btw, cvsu never became public cuz it's 10K was never filed a couple of years ago. but then it had other owners..............
same old story same old song and dance ?
Posted by wallymac on :
No the Reverse merger will be completed upon the filing of the 10K and the SB4. The SB4 is the registration of cvsu shares with the prospectus. Once that is complete then the merger is completed and the reset can happen
Posted by dog on :
I just think we can give doin DD on the DD on the DD, even if we do uncover any more "truths", would you trust your thinking enough to really beleive it with all the emotions and hoopla that is going on? Chit... it's big dog time ..... make your choice . .are you all in, or getting out. It's pony-up time ladies and gentleman.
Sleep on that and do whatever yer gonna do, cuz it's only going to get more confusing every day now.
Posted by 66inxs on :
exactamundo wallymac. hopefully this will happen soon. that is the one million dollar question !
Posted by dog on :
LOL Posted by dog on :
I love mispelling chit . . . g'nite.
Posted by 66inxs on :
good night, chet. good night, david.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: exactamundo wallymac. hopefully this will happen soon. that is the one million dollar question !
I Want it to be OVER...LOL
Stayed in this for the learning process..I didn't know it was going to be a complete semester!!!
Posted by glassman on :
10... don't ever forget to consider the average intelligence quotient...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: exactamundo wallymac. hopefully this will happen soon. that is the one million dollar question !
I Want it to be OVER...LOL
Stayed in this for the learning process..I didn't know it was going to be a complete semester!!!
LOL~ We are getting a "PHD" "P iled H igh & D eep!
I'm still LONG! HA ~ G-Night People ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: 10... don't ever forget to consider the average intelligence quotient...
Dude...I am not even going to start trying to DD that!
Chart...We are getting a "PHD" "P iled H igh & D eep! Yeah...and I don't recall seeing "boots" on the supply list!
Posted by wallymac on :
I feel like everyone else. Been a heck of a road and it's not over. A lot has happened in this that I never even imagined to be possible. So as 10 has said it has been a complete learning process. As Glass has said very interesting and I will be glad when it's over. Between this and SLJB all I can say is WOW. The long dull Summer I had expected never came to be. THe one thing I can say for certain is that there is still SOOOOOOOOO Much to learn.
Good Night and Good Luck Everyone
Wally
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Just so you all know, it looks like Bud is back pumping the stock now on Ihub. Lol, this guy is too much. I'm won't be buying back into this, just thought that was funny.
Posted by glassman on :
sorry to hear it didn't work for ya smelly...
this one is just all over the map...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I don't know why people are selling, I have $1500 invested in this.
If the stock turns to garbage, then I lose 1500 no biggie.
If it goes to $15 and beyond, thats no chump change.
People selling at these levels have to be crazy IMO
Posted by Lootcifer on :
Are we back to this stock going to $15 again???? Is it true??????
If so I'm buying tomorrow first thing in the morning. Good night people
Posted by lostone on :
MM's prolly shuffled shares to each other bringing the price down as a trap, hopefully that's it.. but then again, panic selling will do that on its own.. we're just hanging by a string until some good PR's .. i hate this..
Posted by P Rowds on :
"back to stock going to 15 *again*" this has always been the speculation lootcifer...
EDIT: well, almost from the get-go... i forgot about the people that got in for the amazon deal. my apologies in advance
Posted by DMOST on :
Man can you fill the RUSH!!!. This is what gambling is all about, the vast uncertainnties', with a possiblity of hugh rewards or massive loses. Is it live or is it memorex. I've been in sense the .08 days and haven't sold a share. The dice or still rolling, I will throw some more money on the table tomorrow and wait for the 10k. It will either be my 7 or 11, or my snake eyes'. But in the end, it is all by my choice.
LOVE THE WAY DOG COMES ACROSS,YOU ARE THE MAN.
"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY,YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE" Posted by thecon00 on :
What do you mean...? We’re not all waiting for trees out of the Amazon? Why am I still here?
Posted by cool AZ on :
I got thinking about this situation. I thought about protecting my profits but if I sold I might miss the play of a lifetime. Then I started thinking of the "why" to stay in this. These are my thoughts:
The "process" of finalization of the merger will continue ... Rufus said it is done, that they couldn't get out of it if they wanted to. We are just in that "process". This has progressed phase by phase. It hasn't stopped!
I am investing based on the last financials ... that alone should elevate the price to market levels far above where we are now. Let's say for arguments sake, the price is not adjusted ... let the market set the price. The 10k comes out and the pr's for AISS, etc., etc., and etc. ... contracts, earnings, new acquisitions, new partnerships, more earnings, ... oh, and remember that little venture we have that .... well, a offer has come in for them to merge with .... and so on, and so on.
Even more interesting, is the plight of the CVSU shareholder. I do not think they, as shareholders, would agree to turn over their shares on a 1:1 basis when it is figured their shares are valued at $34 pps. I am sure there are certain assurances made to appease such shareholders which we will only know about as the process continues.
I have never seen so much shorting and bashing of a stock as this. I know there is manipulation at play ... that much is obvious. On other threads, I saw an occasional bash or two ... but never this much play. For me, this means the price is totally twisted and ripped from the level it should be at given dd to date. If this were a "clean play" I would guess we'd be at $2-$4 pps at least right now.
Then why is this not a "clean play"? FHAL was a great set-up for shorts ... something they could easilly bash ... no big deal. FHAL - a small company with few assets, little money, small business and huge contract to rescue logs from the Amazon. Guess what? The merger deal took all by surprise and the interest level shot up along with the price. Think of how devastating that was to the shorts! The price is rocketing and I'm basically screwed.
Now enter the bashers ... delate that balloon! Drop the price ... but does that really change any of the dd. The way I choose to look at this is "What a great buying opportunity you shorts have preserved for me!".
Account energized ... ready to buy more at prices I thought we would never see again. GLTA!
Posted by thecon00 on :
Cool- Nice post!
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: What do you mean...? We’re not all waiting for trees out of the Amazon? Why am I still here?
that was in reference to when the FHAL thread in *allstocks* was started... alot of ppl first initially got in when the amazon venture came about. but shortly after that the merger details and rufus' claim of a price reset which shot the pps up... i thought it was clear what i was talking about but i guess maybe not...
Posted by cool AZ on :
I'm just hoping Rufus makes some kind of solid pr before the price change ... maybe about a day or so before ... I like to watch the price and my account balances rocket!
The excitement of the board is almost intoxicating when things are happening ... those days will be back my friends! For me, it's all good! Good Night!
Posted by T e x on :
"I'm just hoping . . ."
heard dat... Posted by SYGY on :
just went through all the posts on i-hub,,what a zoo!glta
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
how do i obtain access to the PM feature?
Posted by SYGY on :
pm feature!??
Posted by SYGY on :
not to sure !
Posted by aka the law on :
Hello to all!! I've been reading this board for quiet some time now (just over two months to be exact). I've seen both the ups and downs over this time period, as with anything when things are good everyone loves life. And when things are down everyone loves to vent which is also understandable. But through all of the adversity one thing is for sure "MISERY LOVES COMPANY"... Thats why when I woke up yesterday morning and seen I had lost just over $2500.00, I realized that I was not alone. And even though this sucked very badly, I thought to myself "At Least I'm not alone". And that my friends is because of you guys. This is just my way of saying thanks for all the great info. you guys share with all the new guys. I guarntee there are alot more people out there that follow this same board, and feel the same way I do. Hopefully this didn't sound to gay...lol Now lets all hold hands and sing "KUM BA YA"...lol
Posted by thecon00 on :
Sorry P Rowds,
I was joking!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning people! -and newbies! Posted by portman on :
Good Morning Chart.
Looks to be another bad day if I rely on the MACD. But I am no chart reader.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey Portman ~ I don't think you need to know how to read a chart! lol
Actually, daily charts are looking bad, but we ended with the intra-day chart at the bottom and just starting to look up ~
I haven't rattled on much with the charts because this is more about "the deal" and the price re-set then price and Rat has been doing a good job with support and resistance levels.
We will see a price re-set IMO I just know it, and that's what I'm in for, -yet it does suck seeing the price bounce around like that. But I think we knew that would happen when the shares free'd up. So no big surprises at least through my eyes.
It would be nice to have a bone thrown our way in a PR or somekind, but I don't think we'll see it. Rufus wanted the shorts to have time to cover, I guess so after the price re-set it can advance in price without the pressure of shorts on the stocks back.
At times I look at what's going on and think that Rufus is an Einstein... God I hope for all our sakes I'm right, but everything seems to be pointing to that.
Time will tell ~ Here's hoping for a good one!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do i obtain access to the PM feature?
You see the 2 people standing in front of the envelope above each post? Thats the pm.
Posted by dog on :
Good morning fellow pumpers . . .hehe oh, wait I forgot to dump, what's this bag in my hand? LOL
Seriously, buckle up boys and girls , it's gonna be a bumpy ride....
C'mon 10K!
Posted by portman on :
Chartwalker I am pretty much reading up on the whole charting thing. Just following a few and watching what they do to the charts...so many nuances.
Definately about the deal with me a well. Although I am tempered that the deal may not be all about to the moon. I have cycled enough that if we go to zero I am only losing profits. the deal for me is even good if the JV's look like they have good long term potential.
I don't want to bore the board with my over all strategy but so far I like it and this stock.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Good morning fellow pumpers . . .hehe oh, wait I forgot to dump, what's this bag in my hand? LOL
Seriously, buckle up boys and girls , it's gonna be a bumpy ride....
C'mon 10K!
I have a rolled up newspaper...You better not...Oh, you said pumper! I get it.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Portman, take out the spaces, this is an excellent read for a new chartist. Even cover taxes! Chapters on TRENDING, OSCILLATING and PATTERNS are great ~
Posted by dog on :
Basher's in overdrive on iHub.... damn, painful over there...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
On a positive note yesterday the "Acc./Distrib. (thousands)" indicator started taking off again, -people are loading up once again
It went from a negative to positive and is almost at the ceiling!
Posted by dog on :
Well apparently all Canadian certs accounted for... anyone hear different? SYGY?
If so, the clock starts ticking sometime today...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning everyone. Is everyone wearing their athletic cups today. I forgot mine yesterday and I'm a little swollen from the repeated kicks to the balls yesterday. Might want to put on a helmet too.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
LMAO ~~
Posted by milliam on :
Early L2's anyone?
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I have now heard that the Europeans don't have their certs yet. Heard it on the HSM site.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
looks like a little gap down...
Posted by Lootcifer on :
L2 look very nasty. I shoulda waited till this morning to buy instead of EOD yesterday.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...I did know that...I was refering to the fact that the mods have to grant me access to that feature...it says that they have disabled it on my account...funny thing is I can recieve them but not send them...
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do i obtain access to the PM feature?
You see the 2 people standing in front of the envelope above each post? Thats the pm.
Posted by Sandusky on :
quote:Originally posted by fryyguyy: I have now heard that the Europeans don't have their certs yet. Heard it on the HSM site.
UGH...I heard that the south american jungle pygmies and african tribal medicine men haven't received their certs yet. Posted by dog on :
Now the French are giving us trouble... can't take another day like yesterday. Get these certs done so people will stop the panic.
(dog puts on cup, places pillow between legs)
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
down five cents...this is brutal...
Posted by Lootcifer on :
This will open at like .53 cents just from what the l2's are showing
Posted by dog on :
yup...and we dip into the .4's
Posted by portman on :
.535 x .545
Posted by portman on :
UBSS and JEFF setting at 50 on 0.46
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: UGH...I heard that the south american jungle pygmies and african tribal medicine men haven't received their certs yet.
My brother is a S. American jungle albino pygmie, and he confirms he does not have his certs. Just to let you guys know.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
TDCM and AUTO have the right idea, lol...
Posted by luvforever on :
Morning...ugh... what is new? Posted by milliam on :
Any idea where the support is...Maumee you awake yet?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
bid and ask were both just .54 and yet sells of .535 were going through WTF
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
anyone have any idea?
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: haha...I did know that...I was refering to the fact that the mods have to grant me access to that feature...it says that they have disabled it on my account...funny thing is I can recieve them but not send them...
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do i obtain access to the PM feature?
You see the 2 people standing in front of the envelope above each post? Thats the pm.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
crab are you a paying member? If not you won't be able to send PM's
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Any idea where the support is...Maumee you awake yet?
I'm not sure that "charts" will help much in this one...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This sucks buys were just coming at the ask of.558 and they drop the ask down
Posted by milliam on :
I agree, just looking for an idea of where we met drop down to. Maumee seems to be right way to often.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
next support is like at ... gulp. .28
I'd be floored if we saw that ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
ohhhhhh...i was not aware of that...i didn't even know you COULD be a paying member, lol...
thanks!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: anyone have any idea?
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: haha...I did know that...I was refering to the fact that the mods have to grant me access to that feature...it says that they have disabled it on my account...funny thing is I can recieve them but not send them...
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: how do i obtain access to the PM feature?
You see the 2 people standing in front of the envelope above each post? Thats the pm.
Crab...first double check in your portfolio and make sure that you have it checked...if you do then just email Bob and ask him why you can't...just hit the "contact us" at the bottom of the page...
LOL...no you don't have to be a "paying member"...never heard of that!
Posted by luvforever on :
I look at it this way...IMO only, Mr. Ruffis is making sure the trading will be fair for all shareholders and if you are truly long you will have nothing to worry even though ths is sickening. But this is not suppose to be bad for the longs only the mms and the flippers...cause they will get hit and will the have to chase it when it all happens.Isn't this what he more or less was suggesting in his interview? Posted by milliam on :
I've PM'd before and I'm not a paying member. Like 10 said, just contact Bob.
Posted by Squire38 on :
The only support shown on the chart is 0.52, the 50 day SMa. Not sure that it is a solid support level though.
Posted by SYGY on :
morning!confirm shares transfered in my account overnight!at least one good thing!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
thanks 10 and milliam...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Looks good so far(fingers and eyes crossed)...perhaps we will slowly move up...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Any idea where the support is...Maumee you awake yet?
I'm not sure that "charts" will help much in this one...
NOW,NOW 10!!!! Don't ever discount the charts.... lol
some where around .50 - .55 is pretty solid...
what did this open at ... I haven't looked yet..
It may slam support first thing....should bounce up a bit from there
Posted by dog on :
I have never seen manipulation like this... damn travesty
Posted by milliam on :
Thanks Maumee! That's what I was looking for. Hopefully we'll hold here and move up a little.
Looks like the volume has subsided a bit for now.
Posted by portman on :
bigger buys coming in...and it drops. lol
Posted by SYGY on :
looks better than what i thought! would happen!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey gang!!*! If this support level is breached,.....You don't even want to know what the next one is.....
This woul be a very, very, good time to put out some damn good news..
Posted by RichBy26 on :
just moved up some .58x.585!
Posted by Vin on :
Green! We got Green!!! Posted by SYGY on :
roller ride! of the summer
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Whew ~
Posted by RichBy26 on :
ton of buys. Looks like the MMs just shook us to get more cheap shares, they seem to be letting it go now. .06x.61
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK I'll play 0.60 x 0.61
Posted by SherriT on :
Does anyone expect another pullback?
Posted by SYGY on :
right on !!lots of support!
Posted by milliam on :
Thank GOD!!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
is there news???? .64x.66
Posted by portman on :
256K at .63
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
0.68!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
.70 coming fast
Posted by SherriT on :
ARE THERE ANY SIGNS OF A PULLBACK????
Posted by RyanPBF on :
After what ever happens happens. I want a line up of MM's and kick everyone of them in the junk!! For stressing all of us out.
Posted by Vin on :
a bit now...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: ARE THERE ANY SIGNS OF A PULLBACK????
appears so...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: ARE THERE ANY SIGNS OF A PULLBACK????
Sherri...it's hard to tell...my GUESS would be that some day traders get in on this..and come lunch time there may be one...but that is my GUESS!!!
Posted by portman on :
tug of war here
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Day traders are gunna eat this thing up
Posted by RichBy26 on :
this thing is all over the place
Posted by SherriT on :
Thanks guys...I was thinking we were going to drop to the next level of support, so I sold some thinking I could get back in lower *#$% *#$%!!!
LMAO....I really stink at this sometimes!
Posted by Vin on :
This is absolutely crazy to watch. Bid and ask all over the place and the price seems to be off on it's own at times. Interesting to say the least.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
looks like that small quick shake was just to scare some cheap shares from people. heading back up
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: ARE THERE ANY SIGNS OF A PULLBACK????
looks like one coming...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Thank GOD!!!!
What??? You had doubt??? LOL
Posted by SYGY on :
went down to fast yesterday and day before!let's see some news and she'll double speed up!
Posted by portman on :
Bulls are winning for now.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
We are not out of the woods by a long shot...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Should climb the stairs from here I'm thinkin!!!
We'll see!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
still looks like she will fall a bit...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: We are not out of the woods by a long shot...
Really? I never knew we were in the woods...thought we were in the crapper!
Posted by Vin on :
Just a thought... Is it possible that with the price drop that we've seen over the last couple of days, that it would work out as a benefit once the price is reset? For example, if people are in at .60, instead of 1.10, would they be more likely to take a long position and hold their stocks at reset instead of dumping them right away? I may be totally off on this, but trying to think outside the box a bit. Any thoughts?
Posted by milliam on :
Well, around here, the crapper is in the woods .
Just joking...we got indoor plumbing last year.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It's an old wooden Outhouse..... Watch for splinters 10!!!
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
Ok, either people are suddenly buying back or maybe someone knows something we don't?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Vin...I don't think that .50/share is going to make much of a difference in the thought proccess after the reset...IMO..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: It's an old wooden Outhouse..... Watch for splinters 10!!!
Too late..I think I already have a few...I should know better than to actually sit on a damn public seat!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: Ok, either people are suddenly buying back or maybe someone knows something we don't?
clearly some big buys here...
But I hate when we don't know what we don't know.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
on weak support this baby keeps going... I'll take it!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
resistance is just below a dollar..Hmmmmmm!!!!
Kinda like they planned this chit, huh!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Just a thought... Is it possible that with the price drop that we've seen over the last couple of days, that it would work out as a benefit once the price is reset? For example, if people are in at .60, instead of 1.10, would they be more likely to take a long position and hold their stocks at reset instead of dumping them right away? I may be totally off on this, but trying to think outside the box a bit. Any thoughts?
Your thought was my thought...I sold some of my position this morning just so I could try to pick up more shares later in the day for the same cash. That way, I could sell some at the reset, and have more to hold long.
Of course, if I would have tried this yesterday, I'd have been golden....always a day late and a dollar short...until the reset anyway!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
If this keeps going we'll be back to a love fest in here.
Posted by SherriT on :
What are the L2s looking like now?
Posted by Vin on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: If this keeps going we'll be back to a love fest in here.
LOL, it's already starting to feel that way. It's funny how a little run changes everything. It will be interesting to see what kind of pullback we get.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
after this is all said and done the Bellagio's not going to have enough alcohol for me lol. I'm also a fan of a nice scotch
Posted by portman on :
this is not a little run Posted by dog on :
wtf was that trade? .54?
Posted by Vin on :
Ok portman, you got me... Posted by portman on :
I see the line./.. i do not see the trade.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
dip coming
Posted by Vin on :
Hang on...down we go...
Posted by portman on :
so many dip right at 10:15
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Comon little stockey... climb those stairs. I was able to average down yesterday from an average price of 0.86 to and average price of 0.74.... Comoooooon 0.74! Feel like I am at the horse track. Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: It's an old wooden Outhouse..... Watch for splinters 10!!!
Too late..I think I already have a few...I should know better than to actually sit on a damn public seat!
EWWWWWWW!!!!! Nasty girl!!!LOL
You could possibly be the only girl in the world, that doesn't use the dreaded "Hover and hope" technique in a public bathroom!!! Posted by portman on :
See what your potty jokes did! LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
now let's see where she goes !
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Well 10!!1 Ya gotta look at it this way....It's either splinters in your cheeks, ... Or "P" on your feet...... Tiz a tough world....
Posted by SherriT on :
I hope she goes down....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
at the crossroads... if it doesn't find it's way back above .72 it will drop...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: at the crossroads... if it doesn't find it's way back above .72 it will drop...
I sure hope you are right...at least until I can load up....
You guys sure are fun to chew fingernails with!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
with no volume to feed it...... Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I hope she goes down....
most guys do
Sorry.... I had to go there...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
except I don't think to many people want to watch this drop.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I hope she goes down....
most guys do
Sorry.... I had to go there...
I asked for that one....and most guys do have to go there after she goes down :-D
Back atcha! ;-)
Posted by cool AZ on :
Mornin, had trouble with my set-up this am ... hate when that happens. Looking good so far .. think I'll be picking up some more today! Still waiting on the Europeans huh!
Posted by SYGY on :
Posted by: universaltrader In reply to: None Date:8/17/2006 10:24:28 AM Post #of 44944
Just talked to Ben Stanley
(678) 255-7650
He said:
Now that the shares have cleared the brokers the plan is moving forward this week. (he seemed very excited about being on the SHO list, and was laughing)
We should hear from rufus today or tomorrow!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
little intraday head & shoulders... NOT a good sign...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Well 10!!1 Ya gotta look at it this way....It's either splinters in your cheeks, ... Or "P" on your feet...... Tiz a tough world....
Seldom in the crapper for this long...I needed to "have a seat"...with any type of luck the door will soon open and there will be sun light!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
This can do anything it wants as long as it stays above .62 on this correction....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Amen Rat!
Posted by portman on :
If SYGY's info has any bearing...the DT's just got scared.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: This can do anything it wants as long as it stays above .62 on this correction....
Is there any time length it has to stay above .62?
Since we are talking charts, and I know you are so good at them, do you have any recommended reading for the newer-to-charts folks?
Posted by portman on :
Trader decision point...believe and buy or just hold.
Something stopped us cold.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Get ready for a shake....
Posted by 10of13 on :
OH my god...breath!
Posted by portman on :
10...I'm just waiting for a trade.
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Get ready for a shake....
I disagree 10...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: 10...I'm just waiting for a trade.
I was talking to the stock...LOL
Posted by portman on :
wait for it.....waaaiiiitttt for ittttt...
Posted by SherriT on :
OK - I just had a buy filled....it is not halted
Posted by Chartwalker on :
chart still looks good....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MotorCityMadman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Get ready for a shake....
I disagree 10...
Then we will go with you....
Posted by SherriT on :
I lost about $400, but hey, you win some and you lose some...I am back where I wanted to be for the reset....
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by MotorCityMadman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Get ready for a shake....
I disagree 10...
Then we will go with you....
lol
Posted by SYGY on :
volume and we go up!
Posted by luvforever on :
wow watching that spread LOL Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: volume and we go up!
haha...just like every other stock that has ever been traded, lol...
for some reason allstocks crapped out on me for several minutes during that run up...
ya'll didn't really say much about all the huge trades that were going through? it was easy enough to tell when the buy was over though...
Posted by Vin on :
Bid .61 Ask .66 WOW!
Posted by SYGY on :
HUGE spread ,havn't seen that on this one
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: HUGE spread ,havn't seen that on this one
MM games...
Posted by SYGY on :
shares drying up i think!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah it went 0.61 x 0.66 there for a second... I was watching it too.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
this is screwy...it just decided to flatline...and in a hurry too...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
chart still looking good ~
Posted by SherriT on :
When it was looking like it halted, I changed my buy order to the ask and it took quite a bit for it to be taken....I think you are right about the shares, SYGY.
Posted by SYGY on :
wonder who bought those 246000 shares? one trade?HUGE
Posted by Vin on :
Nap time?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
seems that way.
Posted by SYGY on :
Listed 7 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2006 Through 08/16/2006 ---on SHO list---
Posted by maumee river rat on :
SherriT!!
John Murphey has a few good tech books out...But I'm kinda old school and so is he... He was one of the original bad azzes when I first started..
Try learning some basic chart patterns...then you may want to expand to the Elliote Wave or W.D.Gann and the "Square of nine" theory(theres goin from one extreme to the other)..
There are many many different techniques... It takes time to find the ones that work for you...Hell!!! I'm still lookin..
John Murphey"s first book is a good one ... There are many great books that have been published since then....
Try to learn a little about Fibonacci numbers and retracements too...
Heck!! There are even trading techs that are based on the movement of the stars and moon, and wether or not mercury and mars are in retrograde or conjuntion... And believe it or not...They work pretty good once you get the hang of it...
Good luck...
Sorry to ramble on gang..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
not any movement on l2's
Posted by Sandusky on :
quote:Originally posted by SYGY: wonder who bought those 246000 shares? one trade?HUGE
haha...somebody locked up flippers play room with that...leveled us off?
Posted by Vin on :
10, did you tell them to breath, or to stop breathing?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
something has to break...
Posted by Vin on :
Bueller, Bueller....Frye...
Posted by luvforever on :
Cart I think princess did LOL what more do u want lol
Posted by RyanPBF on :
SYGY you have your shares now ?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: SherriT!!
John Murphey has a few good tech books out...But I'm kinda old school and so is he... He was one of the original bad azzes when I first started..
Try learning some basic chart patterns...then you may want to expand to the Elliote Wave or W.D.Gann and the "Square of nine" theory(theres goin from one extreme to the other)..
There are many many different techniques... It takes time to find the ones that work for you...Hell!!! I'm still lookin..
John Murphey"s first book is a good one ... There are many great books that have been published since then....
Try to learn a little about Fibonacci numbers and retracements too...
Heck!! There are even trading techs that are based on the movement of the stars and moon, and wether or not mercury and mars are in retrograde or conjuntion... And believe it or not...They work pretty good once you get the hang of it...
Good luck...
Sorry to ramble on gang..
Thanks much! Would've PMd, but I figured the rest of the group would appreciate the info too. Fibonacci numbers I have, but the rest, well, time to get crackin'!!!
Posted by SYGY on :
how accurate is that SHO list ? 7 days of shorting!reported,,how do they know?
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: If SYGY's info has any bearing...the DT's just got scared.
From what I've gathered from Ihub, that orignal post about someone talking to Ben Stanley was made up.
Posted by portman on :
Nada on the streaming news.
Posted by SYGY on :
YES ALL MY SHARES ARE TRANSFERED AND GOOD TO GO!!
Posted by luvforever on :
sygy the list will never be 100% but its always close in a round about way. Posted by dog on :
So no one talked to Ben?
Posted by SYGY on :
no his reputation is ok on i-hub,,,and that is the correct #
Posted by portman on :
Ty N2S.
I just can't go over there any more.
But something spooked the volume away.
Posted by SherriT on :
I sure hope the reset comes soon...I'm a nervous wreck today (but holding long)
Posted by luvforever on :
I have never ever gotten through how does everyone else get through? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah Maumee that is some great info...it is much appreciated...i hate asking for things like that...i always expect the "use the search feature" response...so i search, lol...although getting that info together in one cohesive thought is very useful...
Posted by dog on :
Somebody sure wants to keep it at .68.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
silly ARCA...gotta mess up that pretty line on the chart...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: http:// clearstation. etrade. com/education/cover.shtml
Portman, take out the spaces, this is an excellent read for a new chartist. Even cover taxes! Chapters on TRENDING, OSCILLATING and PATTERNS are great ~
looking like a dips coming. Not talking about that Absolute guy... lol ~
Posted by SYGY on :
moves everytime with those 100and200 trades
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
wow...trading zero's now...is that a new way to short or something?
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Somebody sure wants to keep it at .68.
NITE & UBSS tag teaming to keep it here...I wonder why? (he says sarcastically)...lol
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: yeah Maumee that is some great info...it is much appreciated...i hate asking for things like that...i always expect the "use the search feature" response...so i search, lol...although getting that info together in one cohesive thought is very useful...
\ No swaet!! Any time....
There are a lot of better heads than mine on this board...
Many are more than willing to lead ya in a more focused direction if they have time...
The search feature responses mostly come from people that have no clue anyways...They are just tryin to sound important...IMO..
Good luck..
Posted by new2stocks on :
I just called the number that was posted from that guy on Ihub and it is Rufus' number not Ben Stanley's....got voice mail by the way... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It is pretty accurate for reported shorts. Brokereages have to report their numbers to the SEC and the SEC holds the MM's license to the fire with the new SHO Rule, that created the SHO List. It is the unreported that you have to still worry about.
For some reason every stock I look into seems to make it on that list. I think Shorty is following me around.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I just called the number that was posted from that guy on Ihub and it is Rufus' number not Ben Stanley's....got voice mail by the way...
Did you tell him to put the donuts down and get our freak'n 10k going? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I think Shorty is following me around.
I can share my aluminum foil if your head isn't aleady covered? You can never be too careful ya know? Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I just called the number that was posted from that guy on Ihub and it is Rufus' number not Ben Stanley's....got voice mail by the way...
Did you tell him to put the donuts down and get our freak'n 10k going?
lol....maybe I should have!
Posted by portman on :
TY Chart!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Guess I'll take a day like this over one like yesterday
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
L2s still moving? My CSHD streamer stopped at 11:07. Nothing moving
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I think Shorty is following me around.
I can share my aluminum foil if your head isn't aleady covered? You can never be too careful ya know?
Duct Tape is far better...So when your head explodes at least you have all the pieces.
Not mine... some radio guy said it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I think Shorty is following me around.
I can share my aluminum foil if your head isn't aleady covered? You can never be too careful ya know?
No thanks, I am safe sitting here naked in my pyramid. Oh the mighty power of the pyramid... protect me from Shorty!!! Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
And there it goes again. NM. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
and with that...the mighty power of the pyramid...in agony over your nakedness throws a couple of 2500 share trades through...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I think Shorty is following me around.
I can share my aluminum foil if your head isn't aleady covered? You can never be too careful ya know?
No thanks, I am safe sitting here naked in my pyramid. Oh the mighty power of the pyramid... protect me from Shorty!!!
Just don't sit ON the pyramid naked!!!1 Posted by Chartwalker on :
As long as we don't talk about naked indians again I think that's what started this whole sell-off in the first place! lol ~
Posted by SYGY on :
lol chart!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
bid keeps sneaking up! No sellers today thank you very much!!!
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: As long as we don't talk about naked indians again I think that's what started this whole sell-off in the first place! lol ~
You just did...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: As long as we don't talk about naked indians again I think that's what started this whole sell-off in the first place! lol ~
I wasn't here that day....Kinda glad I missed it . Sound like it may have been scarey..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
It wasn't pretty! lol ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah...the naked indians always screw us over... what, with their cocktail waitresses and fine Las Vegas style shows...
Posted by SYGY on :
lets blow right past .70!! i wouldn't mind that at all!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
so how is the weather everywhere? haha...big buys again...
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
Everything is set up here perfectly for another run, and you guys start talking about naked indians again...please stop!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Who said I am not part Indian? OK I'm not... and I am not naked or sitting under a pyramid... I don't even believe in the power of the pyramid.
I believe in the power of the MIGHTY 10K!!! and the Great Pumpkin... Charlie Brown.
Posted by new2stocks on :
chat on palt alk~
michael_ws: Well...i can confirm the canadians got heir shares
michael_ws: got mine...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Someone tell Rufus to put the dog back out at a buck! Shorts are covered Posted by taylorh on :
like sygy , I live in Canada - and my shares as of last nite are good to go!!!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: chat on palt alk~
michael_ws: Well...i can confirm the canadians got heir shares
michael_ws: got mine...
Guess over seas didn't get theirs yet...
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Much better mood today! I've decided to stay clear away from IHUB today BTW. This board is like a breath of mountain air after climbing out of the sewer. I'm just sitting back clutching my shares, enjoying & learning from the posts and waiting for some funds to clear to add a few more.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Every year on all hallows eve the great pumpkin rises out of the pumpkin patch bringing Rufas Paul Harris, Ben Stanley, and their MIGHTY 10K to all the good little long boys and girls.
I think I just plagerized and basterdized Charles Shultz??? What a sad day... Charlie Brown.
Where is my 10K?
Posted by SYGY on :
.70 do i hear .80?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
.70 & .80, hell...
I want some of what TDCM and AUTO are smoking, lol...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
we will close at .82 today..... I may change my mind once....
Posted by SYGY on :
So far today this has been a great show of strength.
Posted by SYGY on :
big ass strength!!and more to come today! roller ride!!!
Posted by djg7 on :
Let's break through .71.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yeah, this is the slow part os the day, the sell-off part... -and I'm not seeing it!
Stochastic is riding high MACD is pos. Acc./Dis looking upward
If we can pop past .71 then have a retesting of it that holds, then Rat's prediction may be realized! Go Rat! [even tho he's gone ~]
Posted by SherriT on :
Why, oh why, didn't I just average down....;-)
Posted by SYGY on :
gotta run but checking back later !
Posted by staretsky55 on :
I do that why, oh why thing, not to mention the "if only I had" thing too much myself as a newbie. Only look back to learn,keep looking forward & you'll be fine. Don't beat yourself up by looking back!
Posted by dog on :
Jesus.... took forever to get a few shares at .702... been chasin this all day.. very stable!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
finally...broke .72
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Bid .72 - Ask .73
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
oh oh Ooohh!!!! Come Onnnn... o'le 0.74!
Posted by casviper on :
I want my MTV......and oh yes..... $15.00 plus a share. GO CSHD
Posted by cool AZ on :
I took us to .73 ... another 1080 shares to cap me off. The movement is nice today ... sure beats yesterday.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
gotta love the take down on 5000 shares...
Posted by Vin on :
Oh, oh...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Dang it! Who is holding the door on o'le 0.74?
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Would anyone care to comment on this from PalTalk? I'd like to knock it down if I can. Would appreciate any input. Thanks, Staretsky - IrishLife2: About the Bond...I called my Investment Banker and all she could tell me was that the CUSIP number existed, but not that Rufus, et al, owned all or any of it. Also, it was not cashed by anyone. She said the Bond had a poor rating and the info on the ********** regarding that bond rating was correct
Posted by Chartwalker on :
news out?....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I haven't seen any.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
My comment is .... phfbbbbbbbbbbbittt!!! Posted by portman on :
Star, same mantra from that group...she said it last night as well. I could not care less. None of them could even read a D&B report correctly.
I like Irish but she has to let it go. It's a leveraged asset. That is all I care about until I see the 10K.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Well, I thought I was taking us in the right direction ...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah what Portman said... I need my meds. Oh crap! where did they go??? Posted by mnvestor on :
Irish-"all she could tell me was that the CUSIP number existed"
That is the same information others have commented on, does not mean much, or prove ownership.
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Portman & Tax: Thanks for answering, I was hoping for something like that - you've knocked it down for me. I'm trying to avoid negativity right about now.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I could'nt nail down a solid to the point answer on that. I did find the link to the bond itself and posted it here. -but still looking around as always and checking back here.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
another 10min lull in activity.
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Chart - I admit to 0 understanding of bonds. I appreciate your input as well as others here.
Posted by dog on :
Hey Chart... your sure about the bond? From what I've seen it's theirs...
Posted by dog on :
you're . . damn Absolut would have a field day...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
What is the link to the bond again? we're racking up alot of pages per day! I want to check more into it myself.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Hey Chart... your sure about the bond? From what I've seen it's theirs...
??? All I said was I found nothing solid one way or the other and that I believe I posted the link to that very bond here... Don't have solid answers on that, but still checking...
That's the big uproar today. -always something Posted by RyanPBF on :
dog I don't remeber seeing anywhere that it was theirs other than their word. I hope it is. The only thing I've seen is just that it existed.
Posted by dog on :
True... saw that it existed , but didn't they reference it on the 8K? If they lied it's fraud... correct?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm not at my home PC... (in my fav's) and I won't be home till after markets close.... sh*t -sorry ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I've heard it was theirs.... They sold it... and also that they have credit on it somehow... All STORIES that I don't know how to verify
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I believe it was part of their audited financials. I'll have to find and look at the 8k again.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
the funny thing about this bond situation is that people expect to see proof of ownership on the bond...
the company i work for has around thirty bonds...i know a fair amount about them...i've done the accounting and record keeping for most of them...all range from 2 to 10mil a piece...
not once have i ever seen our name on the certificate with the bond info...an invoice from the institution perhaps...but that has account info and all that other PRIVATE info...
all we can do is believe or disbelieve what they say about ownership...
and the "story" was not that they sold it...only that they used it as collatoral to get a bunch of cash...i forget the technical term for the process though...this was stated in that interview with the lawyer...
Posted by dog on :
wow...dead
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Almost sorry I brought it up!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: the funny thing about this bond situation is that people expect to see proof of ownership on the bond...
the company i work for has around thirty bonds...i know a fair amount about them...i've done the accounting and record keeping for most of them...all range from 2 to 10mil a piece...
not once have i ever seen our name on the certificate with the bond info...an invoice from the institution perhaps...but that has account info and all that other PRIVATE info...
all we can do is believe or disbelieve what they say about ownership...
Thx.... Otherwise I'm chasing a ghost
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Is anyone adding to their positions here? Or expect a pullback?
Posted by dog on :
There was a PR newswire report about the Caracas group that detailed the bond... they were involved
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Hypothecate I believe was the term used
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Are you guys still looking for the bond info? Here is the link to BB's post.
yeah until they show us an account statement with whichever broker they used to complete the transaction...I don't think we'll have black and white proof...and i'm not saying they should have to or anything...
then they have to tie in who ever is listed as the owner of said account...because chances are it isn't listed as Conversion Solutions Holding Corp.
Posted by dog on :
Added to position at .702 . . hard to get anything now
Posted by portman on :
10k will have audited financials....
They did not sell it or cash it in. They leveraged the asset per one of the PRs. This is the method of Funding du' Jour for WS.
I do not care who owns it. If CSHD derives revenue from intrest all the better. I only care that they are permitted to leverage the asset.
We are betting that CSHD has several yet to be announced assets that will suface in the 10k and be PR'ed shortly after release of the 10K.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
doesn't look like a pullback from what I'm seeing... but with this yo-yo who knows...
But right now, charts are looking up...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
and hypothecate is that term i was searching for...thanks RyanPBF
in case ya'll missed it on the last page...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: You callin' me a yo-yo?
???
-I meant the stock ~
Posted by portman on :
I know Chart Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
ohhhhh....FIGHT...FIGHT...FIGHT...
Posted by portman on :
Those trades for 4500 and 4800 keep repeating to bring it down to .66 an awful lot.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I know Chart
In that case now I will!! lol ~~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
this is trading now like when the change was going through and no body wanted to sell for fear of shorting. Very very slow right now.
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Added a few under.70, if anybody cares! Now for the sell-off...JK
Posted by SYGY on :
KENNESAW, Ga., /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU) announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.
CVSU would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group. The funding agreement brings 500 Million United States Dollar denominated Global, Bonds on the Republic of Venezuela with a 13.625% annual coupon, to CVSU's financials. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system with the following codes:
ISIN Number: US922646AT10
Common Code: 008975540
CUSIP: 922646AT1
BB Registration: A-989/08/01 to A-989/08/19
The bond also trades under symbol (VEZD) on the Deutsche Borse Frankfort market.
"We have been working diligently toward Hypothecation of the Bonds for liquidly. We have received written pre-approval for a credit line on the bonds and are in the final phases of execution. This process is very important to the launch of CVSU's business model for the funding of the projects and Asset Backed Security (ABS) origination," stated Ben F. Stanley, COO.
"The Board of directors has decided to complete the Credit facility prior to filing the SB-2; we feel that the addition of this asset is beneficial to the shareholders value," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
dot dot dot....
----------------------------------
REPUBLIC OF VENEZUE 13.6250 15/08/18 US922646AT10 008975540 13.625 USD 06 Aug 1998 15 Aug 2006 14 Aug 2006 G BOND 31 Jul 1998
Euroclear sitr posted above. 13.625 is the interest rate
Time for a little education, since some I fear need it in spades.
What is a Bond? It is a DEBT SECURITY, notice the word "Security". An issuer of a Bond, does so to raise money as a LOAN, that is given for a SET TIME and INTEREST rate (YIELD). The time of a BOND is set by its MATURITY DATE, and can be as long as say, 30 odd years.
Since Bonds are Debt Securities, they can be TRADED. In fact the Issuer of a Bond does so by OFFERING its Bond to investors much like companies do via IPOs. Thus, Bonds are a Security, much like Stock, that can be traded as such.
Therefore, we have a thing called a BOND MARKET, where investors can invest there money in Bonds, and Bonds have a price based on their YIELD, MATURITY and most importantly CREDIT! The credit part is very important since the risker the issuer of the Bond, the more YIELD/INTEREST they have to offer to make it attractive enough to investors.
They are a few different TYPES of Bonds, namely, GOVERNMENT Bonds and CORPORATE Bonds. Government Bonds are generally considered safer since they are backed by a GOVERNMENT as opposed to a CORPORATION, and have lower yields. But credit ratings vary for Governments JUST LIKE Coroprations too, so a Bond from say, SOUTH AMERICA, would be considered risker than a US or UK issued Bond. Yet, a South American Bond should still be considered safer than a Corporate Bond. Unless perhaps we are comparing it to a Corporation with say a AAA Credit Rated Company -- and a SOUTH AMERICAN Bond would offer a greater YIELD than say a US TREASURY BOND.
So this is why investing in Bonds is considered SAFE MONEY. And to invest in a Venezulan Bond would be considered safe too, no? Unless we invade that Country and bomb it to bits that is!
Now, remember the part about a BOND MARKET? Right, so when the issuer offers a Bond for say, I don't know $800Million, do you think they call up one guy a say "Hey man, give my $800 million, and I give you a piece of paper"? Of course not, it is offered just like any other security and ppl buy as MUCH OF IT AS THEY WANT, just like shares in a company.
Now, do you think this piece of paper, that constitues the Bond, has all those investors' names on it? You know, all those ppl that bought INTO that Bond? Don't be silly, the Bond is the BOND and it is openly traded.
So guess what? If you call "someone" to ask if say, Mr. Smith owns such and such Bond, do you think you will get an answer like, "Oh yeah I see Mr.Smith's name here right on my screen" -- of course not. Much in the same way, as if you asked Etrade how many shares I HAVE IN CSHD, they won't and CANNOT tell you. Sound familar? Of course it does.
Finally, remember some chatter about "Cashing In a Bond". Funny choice of words, or rather, funny INTERPRETATION of those words, since the ONLY person that could "Cash in a Bond", would be the ones that ISSUED the bond. And even that is contrived since, the Bond is the Bond, and cannot be "cashed" or surrendered anyway since it is SET and BACKED till its Maturity Date! The only "cashing in" you could do, would be to SELL your POSITION in a particular bond on the open market. And that can even be interpreted in a different way when are talking about BUSINESS.
Since, these Bonds are SECURITIES, you can use them as COLLATERAL. For what say? A loan! That right, a loan, that you have whilst still holding your position in the BOND, which in effect, allows you to CASH OUT YOUR FUNDS.
There is a smart word for this, and it starts with an "H". Smart business ppl do this, when they can earn INTEREST at a HIGHER YIELD, than the interest rate they are BORROWING at.
I have spoken. Thank you.
Posted by 10of13 on :
mnvestor LOL...thanks...now...could you go post that up on the hot stocks thread? some individuals are "not understanding"...perhaps they will read your words and a light bulb will go off....
Posted by sceptor on :
notice the trend on the bond. It's rising, they know it's being financed against now and want a piece of the fun.
Posted by dog on :
If this thing doesn't rise to near a dollar before the weekend I'd be surprised... or the MM's have a hell of a strangle hold.
Posted by milliam on :
Ok mnvestor, so does that mean CSHD owns xxx million worth of the bond or xxx million shares of the bond? I'm just trying to understand how bonds work. I don't doubt that CSHD has this bond or that they've lied to us about it.
Thanks for the above explanation...I feel like I'm on the way to understanding bonds a little better.
Milliam
Posted by Chartwalker on :
nice find mnvestor!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
maybe we'll see a little EOD rally?... I'm still pulling for Rat's prediction! Posted by mnvestor on :
As stated in the post, it is from H S M, where they like to argue about everything. Milliam, I am unable to answer that question, I believe that information would be difficult to acquire
Posted by Chartwalker on :
.....but with looking at the charts an EOD rally may not happen... Nothing big anyway ~
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Anyone expect news or PR tonight? About what I don't know. LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by staretsky55: Anyone expect news or PR tonight? About what I don't know. LOL
LMAO...been expecting it for a little over 2 weeks now...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
NEWS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO... Posted by SherriT on :
BUTTHEAD! I got excited to turn the page....LMAO
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I got so excited for a 1/2 second... grrr I guess it added a little excitement to the monotiny:) LOL
Posted by dog on :
where?
Posted by SherriT on :
Did you guys notice the tight spread again all of a sudden?
Posted by dog on :
last trade will be .666
Put the dog down Damien!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Crab I think I'm going to step on your shell for that one.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Been out for a bit haven't rumenated on everything concerning the bond, but as for those doubting CSHD's asset claiming ability of the bond. They did get it in their last audited finacial statement that's on their website (be pretty hard to do if it wasn't real or theirs) also the bond is rising. Go show! JMHO
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
After the initial disappointment when I turned the page (btw there is a good song by that title by a guy named Bruce) I reflected for a moment and then started to laugh.....Ty for a short break in the waiting time here
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
bid and ask were both .66 and no trades went through how's that possible.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
the fact that it went from page to page was only icing on the cake, lol...
just tryin to get a chuckle folks...
it's not like anything of consequence is happening here anyhow...SBSH seems to have this puppy locked up for the time being...
Posted by dog on :
If I could rate you... I would LOL
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
ask at .70
Posted by RyanPBF on :
somethings weird went up .05 on the ask on very few buys
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...it's the end of day...because some prick decided to sell at .675 at 15:59:02 that shall be the official close...some ghost trades will go through in a bit to reset the EOD to that...
i think...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: somethings weird went up .05 on the ask on very few buys
Not wierd..."true trading...remember the float is smaller...the PPS should move on little volume...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO...
Me too.... I fled the scene of the accident! lol ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Should of went with Allstate aren't they the one's with accident forgiveness now. Right forgiveness from an insurance company. We'll get our 10k before that happens j/k
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I vote Crab gets the "putz" award today! ha ~ Posted by SYGY on :
happy still today held all my shares! but did expect more of a sell off so thats good!!accumulation for longs now on low float can i say more!!tomorrow we move back up!fingers crossed
Posted by Vin on :
That was wrong on so many levels! Posted by RyanPBF on :
You know if Rufus revealed any PR. Not the 10k something with a little substance nothing huge would make this thing skyrocket. IMO
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO...
Me too.... I fled the scene of the accident! lol ~
Posted by staretsky55 on :
I'll vote myself the 'putz' award for bringing up that bond thing - don't think it "solved" anything but at least it passed the time & we got some good info out of it.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: You know if Rufus revealed any PR. Not the 10k something with a little substance nothing huge would make this thing skyrocket. IMO
yep. just shows you how emotional penny stock traders really are.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: somethings weird went up .05 on the ask on very few buys
Not wierd..."true trading...remember the float is smaller...the PPS should move on little volume...
Sorry 10...sent that to the wrong person! LOL
Posted by new2stocks on :
dang it my eyes must be going !! I keep clicking on the wrong quotes and stuff!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: somethings weird went up .05 on the ask on very few buys
Not wierd..."true trading...remember the float is smaller...the PPS should move on little volume...
Sorry 10...sent that to the wrong person! LOL
LMAO..probably good it wasn't anything "nasty"...
Posted by luvforever on :
got pages to read just got back from my meeting what d i miss? LOL tia Posted by dog on :
Nothing... nice and stable... waitin on news just like everybody else...
Posted by thecon00 on :
Wow,
Remember just two days ago when I got hammered for bringing up the bond issue...
The only thing I think we still have not been able to verify is that there seems to be little/no info on the Caracas group or Ismet Paez. I'm sure if we all looked we could find something.
All I have so far is a Google hit mentioning the Caracas group as a political party backed and funded by the USA. Apparently putting these people in power fits US political agenda for the country better that current Venezuelan Pol. Leaders. With the defense contracts however awarded to Georgia Aerospace there could be a US Gov. Connection even though it is a long shot.
I know it is a stretch but any thoughts or other DD welcome and link to article below.
ok well i'll read them later and thanks right now too much stress with attorneys and human rights etc etc. on my mind so this is a lil relief seeing it around .70 and holding close..ahh relief but no stress. Just as long as I didnt miss the news if it ever comes out! LOL glta see ya in am if not sooner..LOL Posted by thecon00 on :
More on Caracas group/US Aid
Posted by milliam on :
Not sure that is about the Caracas "group", but I didn't read it all.
Caracas is the city in Venezuela where the US Embassy is. I've done some searching, but most everything that comes back has to do with the city, and not a group.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
This thing has got to b for real!!!!
All the bashers were out in force last night!!!
A green day as this stock fought back again!!!
Bashers 0-1 longs!!!! ha ha
Posted by fhalyesss on :
By the way, after numerous phone calls to my broker tommorrow i should be able to give myself definitaive proof, that we are in for a massive payday!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: By the way, after numerous phone calls to my broker tommorrow i should be able to give myself definitaive proof, that we are in for a massive payday!
How So?
Posted by leanlow06 on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: By the way, after numerous phone calls to my broker tommorrow i should be able to give myself definitaive proof, that we are in for a massive payday!
Whats up tell us the rest, cant leave us hangin like that...
Posted by dog on :
Hey.... you guys are going to make millions!!!!
Peace out!
Posted by dog on :
Just kidding... I don't know how many shares you have.
There should be a prerequisite on this board that factual info is necessary for any statement that leads to me thinking I'm going to make some money.... otherwise I spend too much time ruminating over it . . it makes me nauseated, and my heart can't take much more. LOL
Posted by leanlow06 on :
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Posted by dog on :
Anyone here?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Wow,
Remember just two days ago when I got hammered for bringing up the bond issue...
The only thing I think we still have not been able to verify is that there seems to be little/no info on the Caracas group or Ismet Paez. I'm sure if we all looked we could find something.
All I have so far is a Google hit mentioning the Caracas group as a political party backed and funded by the USA. Apparently putting these people in power fits US political agenda for the country better that current Venezuelan Pol. Leaders. With the defense contracts however awarded to Georgia Aerospace there could be a US Gov. Connection even though it is a long shot.
I know it is a stretch but any thoughts or other DD welcome and link to article below.
I hammered you because we had gone over what you were discussing a very long time ago.
I also told you to read the old thread because I did not want to read through 270+ plages to find it for you.
With a name like thecom and stating some of the questions the way you were...I thought you were a seeding doubt intentionally.
I could have been wrong....the jury is still out in my mind.
Posted by portman on :
Yo Last of the Dogmen,
Do not ruminate or stew. Good to have you around.
Posted by dog on :
Nah.. I'm OK... new to this stock thing. I'm pretty exhaustive about researching the investments I make, so every time a red herring is thrown out I follow it to the end... even if it's junk. This stock has been one hell of an educator. Just getting alittle worn out at the end of some days... yesterday was brutal, but didn't change my feeling about the stock..but as emotions run high, it's tough to fight fear as well. Which is why I prefer this board over iHub. Factual info and links to support ideas are much more welcome than the self serving "saviors" trying to give me unnecessary DD to do (i.e. owe street).
Posted by portman on :
dog did you get in low or average down a bit, or flip shares to make these shares almost free?
If not read some of the newbie section here. I have traded big boards for years but that section opened a whole new world.
Posted by portman on :
Bashers are part of the game. Learn who will shoot straight with you. I put a couple (non-inclusive) names before you: Tex, 10of13, Purl Gurl, Maumee, J_U_ICE. There are many others. listen to what they say. No one knows everything. This site is the best I have been on.
Good to just grab a stock and follow it and not be in it. Just listen and watch.
Posted by dog on :
I agree with all the names you've dropped... good people all
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Bashers are part of the game. Learn who will shoot straight with you. I put a couple (non-inclusive) names before you: Tex, 10of13, Purl Gurl, Maumee, J_U_ICE. There are many others. listen to what they say. No one knows everything. This site is the best I have been on.
Good to just grab a stock and follow it and not be in it. Just listen and watch.
Yea, but how could you NOT be in this one?
You know what i mean Portman, its coursing through your veins like fire...admit it. Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
And i have to agree with ya dog, this thing has worn on me as well. I cant believe its almost 2 weeks after the thing was supposed to go down to begin with. Its been crazy, but i did learn much more than i would have on some "normal" stock.
Posted by sceptor on :
I believe I would have to vote purl gurl off the island. After the concerted effort she did on ihub trying to bash the bond without ever offering anything to substantiate it other than claiming st0cklemon is always right, I just dont see a lot of credibility.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I believe I would have to vote purl gurl off the island. After the concerted effort she did on ihub trying to bash the bond without ever offering anything to substantiate it other than claiming st0cklemon is always right, I just dont see a lot of credibility.
so, what are the facts on the bond?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: I believe I would have to vote purl gurl off the island. After the concerted effort she did on ihub trying to bash the bond without ever offering anything to substantiate it other than claiming st0cklemon is always right, I just dont see a lot of credibility.
so, what are the facts on the bond?
I dont have to have any facts other than what the company has offered. I'm not the one claiming its invalid. Last I checked company pr's, 8-k's, verbal communications, and physical evidence of a merger completing were all valid materials to trade off of.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL..this bond seems to be an "issue"...and I am confused why it is... is it because it is something that noone can truly varify just as noone can varify that I actually own this stock?
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I put a couple (non-inclusive) names before you: Tex, 10of13, Purl Gurl, Maumee, J_U_ICE.
Posted by T e x on :
"I dont have to have any facts other than what the company has offered."
oh...
shine on, bro...hope that approach works out for you. Some traders have found that companies/CEOs/IR firms/TAs are not always forthright, and so these types of traders "dig into" the info deeper than what the company might wish.
But if you're happy? Man, I'm happy for you!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by portman: I put a couple (non-inclusive) names before you: Tex, 10of13, Purl Gurl, Maumee, J_U_ICE.
yeah...I would most defintely have to say that as far as this stock goes...this gal has done some awesome DD and posting...with out her we would have all been lost!!!
(Not saying that she hasn't in other stocks...it's the only one that I recall having the pleasure of being in at the same time as her)
Posted by portman on :
OK, ok... Like I said non-inclusive....I love BB...not in a way that will get me in trouble with The Wife...but I love her just the same...I screwed up I forgot her...it's all my fault.
It's been a long...umm week so far.
I beg infinate forgiveness BB...PPPLLLEEEAAASSEEEE! Pretty please with sugar on top!
Posted by SherriT on :
I second that!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL..this bond seems to be an "issue"...and I am confused why it is... is it because it is something that noone can truly varify just as noone can varify that I actually own this stock?
as far as I can tell--and remember, I've been in n out so unable to follow every twist--the bond is the "claim to fame" as far as assets go. It's what separates the balance sheet from "a contender" vs "just another POS."
given that? verification *does* become important...
put it this way...if I were Rufus/company COO/etc? I would make it *transparent* where to get the facts, especially on a play of this potential magnitude...
Posted by 10of13 on :
BB...please forgive him... He's a guy...you know...he's "forgetful"...LOL
Posted by SherriT on :
Well, I second 10of13's inclusion....not the begging for forgiveness.
Nite all! (oops, lousy no good MM reference) Hoping for a good Friday...
Posted by portman on :
Catia...I am in this one...man what a stock to be in.
Posted by 10of13 on :
But Tex...how do you varify? "we" have no choice...but to wait for financials...and filings...to see if it is true... Or do you know of a way to varify it?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: BB...please forgive him... He's a guy...you know...he's "forgetful"...LOL
The Wife was watching and lhao. "Yep, 10 knows men", she said.
Posted by SYGY on :
so everybody's in a better mood today!good!still below my average now,,tomorrow should be even sweeter!let's try and FORGET bum f-k tuesday and bum f-k wednesday!
Posted by portman on :
You can only really verify an asset via the 10K...so catch 22.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Catia...I am in this one...man what a stock to be in.
Yea, i know ya are. I was just goofin around cuz i hadnt really posted much all day. If i remember correctly you were in back in the logging days, geez its been over two months for me!
I sleep much better these days though. Good night folks! Posted by portman on :
Here is what I do not get...
No news...no change in the deal, no change in the risk...
The volume just dried up...instantly.
Posted by SYGY on :
wait and see game now!!only accumulation till some news !volume good to go when that hits!
Posted by SYGY on :
BUY-IF
0.6750 +0.0770 +12.88%
WOW! can you believe that! --American Bulls.com!!LOL! we all need to BUY IF we had **** loads of money!!!!LOL!
Posted by SYGY on :
---------YA I KNOW IT'S ONLY RUMOUR BUT NICE TO LOOK AT------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------Posted by: chevyrider In reply to: None Date:8/17/2006 9:31:36 PM Post #of 45734
please read
dogmando
Posts: 99 Believe this or not I don't care. Today a friend of mine called me and told me that his mother went to AG Edwards to buy CSHD shares. Her broker told her that this was great. When asked why the brokers response was that was great because the 10K was due out tomorrow. I told my friend to call the broker back but by the time we hooked up the broker had gone home for the day. This guy is a straight shooter and I believe him
Posted by betting babe on :
thx for the inclusion!!! my intentions are to help out even if i cant always do so.
i took today as an opportunity to average down a tiny bit. on the off chance that the usual friday pattern holds true and we see news come out.
we have GOT to hear something soon. im vibin tomorrow.
and just a side note: we cant verify Caracas Group, but in SLJB i havent been able to verify Wessel either. there's just stuff that isnt verifiable until it's verified. heah.
~BB
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: But Tex...how do you varify? "we" have no choice...but to wait for financials...and filings...to see if it is true... Or do you know of a way to varify it?
no, I do not know how to verify--or, if it's even possible--YET.
By that I mean, I mean me, myself, personally...
However, this was one of the first questions raised, as I recall--by Tim of PQL research. "What's the real value of the bond?"
Later, S-lemon ran across it... fwiw...
Now here's the deal--doesn't matter, logically, if PQL & S-Lemon are both bad actors. But claiming a publically tradeable instrument, from a publically traded company *should* result in more transparency.
Sure, I can understand individual traders not being subject to such scrutiny. But public companies? claiming such assets? regardless of whether we've "found the way" to verify...the point is, we should in fact be *able* to verify...
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK...so after several days of trying to look for verification on this Bond...and the only thing that I can find is that "the bond" does exist..."we" have to wait for filings of some sort to really verify...correct?
As I said in another post..."it" isn't an issue for me...why? Because i can't verify it...there has to come some point that You believe in the stock or you don't...
What the DD has shown me so far is that ~several of the people that are involved in some of the companies that CVSU "holds" are "impressive people"... ~that a merger of this sort has not been done... ~that so far "Rufas" has done all that "he" said would be done ~that it is "possible" to stop and "reset" the PPS...(even if it is only for 1 trade) ~most all of the steps have not been done through a "PR"...but through actual filings
I find this to be interesting...and at the same time aggravating...but I am learning as we walk through the process...this could be a great deal...and yet...even according to the 10K...it can be cancelled at any time
Posted by SYGY on :
Hey BB, are you in SLJB? I thought that Wessal was going public on the Dubai exchange(IPO). Correct me if I'm wrong. THANKS
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...so after several days of trying to look for verification on this Bond...and the only thing that I can find is that "the bond" does exist..."we" have to wait for filings of some sort to really verify...correct?
As I said in another post..."it" isn't an issue for me...why? Because i can't verify it...there has to come some point that You believe in the stock or you don't...
What the DD has shown me so far is that ~several of the people that are involved in some of the companies that CVSU "holds" are "impressive people"... ~that a merger of this sort has not been done... ~that so far "Rufas" has done all that "he" said would be done ~that it is "possible" to stop and "reset" the PPS...(even if it is only for 1 trade) ~most all of the steps have not been done through a "PR"...but through actual filings
I find this to be interesting...and at the same time aggravating...but I am learning as we walk through the process...this could be a great deal...and yet...even according to the 10K...it can be cancelled at any time
ya... my point, exactly; I hear you, really I do: If we wait until everything's known, the play may well be over... (cf my posts re "dayrunners")
on the other hand? *do* mine this play for all it's worth, in terms of DD. Cuz I guarantee you...if this is succesful in any way for the company? Or even if *the model* looks promising...we'll see more of these.
bottom line? we need to know all about not only "368" provisions but also bond research...
Posted by Bob Frey on :
Need to start thinking of a new thread.
Thanks.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
News out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it ain't fluff! I might have to take some sleeping pills tonight because I'm so freaking excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 18, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (CSHD, Trade), a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place.
CSHD would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding Agreement with the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation. The Foundation's Co-Operators are Adnan Sakli FD# 8216 and 8217, Craig M. Cason and Steven Canady.
The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC 6 1/8 A+
Common Code: 010924251
ISIN: XS0109242510 BB Number: EC2377199
"With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Rufus Paul Harris Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, Harris*cvsu.us, +1-770-420-8270 http://www.prnewswire.com Copyright (C) 2006 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
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Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
As if we haven't done enough DD... Here we go again!!! Hummmm.... I'm thinking of a green gapper!!!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Holy CRAP....
lol reset at $25
Wow...if this is a scam, Rufus is putting a lot on the line, with those statements. I love it!
Posted by Dreamer0708 on :
this is great news we should see a GREEN day tomorrow, about time we hear something from them.
Posted by cassity on :
HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by cassity on :
PR is very detailed, very good! Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Humm... why has the 10K taken so long??? Oh I have a guess. Maybe Rufi has been spending time doing his job and also wanted it to include another $600,000,000 in assets!?
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Hahahaha this is way to good to be true, I just don't understand how this could be true...but I'm long baby!
Posted by P Rowds on :
night all... i'm going to bed... this makes me giggle:D now i can go to work and not worry... but i'll be here in the morning with you all... this should be fun... do i smell a gapper?
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Posted by mathis on :
HOLY ****!! with Rufus stating that(25 per share) in a PR, he has put a lot on the line if this is a scam!!
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publish their article to convince foolish retailers to short more? thereby allowing the older shorts to cover by buying shorts? (changing who had the short position?)