I am glad to be back at Allstocks 
And what happened to Mr. Bung...???
Suzannie I am glad to be back at Allstocks
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 25, 2004).]
....Did Bung take the toll on you and got you banned? You were here one day and the next, you were gone. Just wanted you to know, I (we) did miss you.
lol that had to be one of the funniest conversations in Q history lol
Good idea on the new thread I was thinking about doing it myself this morning.
went out and cut the grass and came back in and here we are.
Im home for 36 hours and then back to Toronto and my hotel room for my 4th week
talk to you all soon
Rod
Out of respect for the VERY NICE Admin's here at Allstocks I won't go into what happened. I got out of line at one point (Mr.Bung was not the issue at all, he was rather amusing infact) and justice needed to be served. Nuff Said! I am glad to be back.
I see while I was gone 2slowforyou managed to squeeze out some really uningenius information... I read his posts (dribble drabble) and he was off the mark in 95% of what he said. I will credit him with being 5% right however THE COMPANY IS TRYING ITS HARDEST AND THAT IS ALL WE CAN ASK AND EXPECT...
Remember U2canbehookedonphonics1-800-ABCDEFG that we are up roughly 4200% or so from our 52 week low at .0001
Put that into your Carolyn Pipe and smoke it!
-Byrd-
ron...nice to see more people besides firefly, betting babe, suzainiee, and a few others interested in the satellite.
you know, of course, that this q thing is such a huge scam and hoax perpetrated so intricately and elaborately that they (the perpetrators) have gone so far as to actually utilize bandwidth on a real orbiting satellite...Intelsat Americas 7.
...saying this dripping with sarcasm. LOFL
if anyone has any interest whatever in this silly ol' satellite thing, here's a few pertinent links for ya. and y'know, there's all kinds of things you can click on and find out at each of these sites.. 
http://www.intelsat.com/special/loral/index.asp
http://www.intelsat.com/special/loral/satellites/isat7.asp
http://www.loralskynet.com/glb_fleet_7.asp
http://www.lyngsat.com/ia7.html
http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvsat/ia7.html
http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvsat/ia7_2.html
the "A" accesses directly the related channel contact information at the LyngSatฎ Address website.
Originally posted by ron4498:
HELLO ALL: DID YOU GUYS SEE THE NEW Q_CHANNEL LOGO NOW ON THE SATELLITE WEB SITES> LOOK !!!!
LOOK at all THREE LOGO Q-Channel satellite web sites. Looking good people$$$$$
LOOK-Our LOGO is now up on our Satellite web site, LOOKING GOOD PEOPLE:
[This message has been edited by King Crimson (edited September 25, 2004).]
When we start that Q-Vacation Club Internationale (Yes I said -nale) Nigeria is the first place we stop... Do you think they sell Gxxxxx in the street like we have Hut Peanuts, Hot Dogs and Pretzels?
I want extra Gxxxx dipping sauce!!!
More Ovaltine with my Gxxxxx PLEASE!!!
-Byrd- (It's good to be home)
[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 25, 2004).]
-Byrd-
-John-
Be back in a little bit Guys!
[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 25, 2004).]
[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 25, 2004).]
Don't want to make the anyone "testy". 
Welcome back, JB BlueByrd.
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Careful...Don't want to make the anyone "testy".
Welcome back, JB BlueByrd.
Business Editors &Health/Medical Writers SAN DIEGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2002 Doug Brown, President of 37Point9 (OTCBB:TSPN) announced today a unique program to eliminate bashing and misleading information posted by individuals known as bashers. This program will be totally funded by our Lead Consultant, Bruce Barren. According to Brown, the program will work in the following manner: For each basher listed below that you turn over to our legal representative through your attorney, you will receive $10,000 when it is totally proven and confirmed that they are a basher, making false or slanderous statements against 37Point9, its officers and directors or Bruce Barren. Your identity will be kept completely confidential and the reward will be paid directly to your legal representative once it can be totally confirmed that the person you have identified is the basher named. Brown further states Bruce Barren totally appreciates the loyalty of our shareholders and desires to show his appreciation and give all posters on Raging Bull a chance to both benefit your Company and rid the Raging Bull Message Board of activities which are totally illegal and of a slanderous nature. The uniqueness of this Program gives you a chance every time you identify and turn in another basher to receive another $10,000 reward. The below bashers have shown their constant contempt and have determined they can make false accusations, libel whomever they desire and escape being identified, attempting to hide under the First Amendment, forgetting that Slander, along with Violation of Personal Information, is a libelous offense under the law. All identified bashers, once proven they are that basher, will have their name and identity turned over to the following legal authorities for both criminal and civil prosecution: The FBI, The SEC, The City Attorney -- San Diego, who is conducting an ongoing criminal investigation against Charles Kallmann (Case # M-759390) and under Mr. Barren's just filed Case # GIC795447. Any basher that turns himself in and assists in the investigation of other bashers will not be prosecuted or sued either under criminal or civil damages. You will receive a reward for each basher you identify. In addition there is a $10,000 reward for identifying any organization or individuals that have hired the bashers. Below listed are specific screen names or aliases of bashers that we desire identified:
Ondahunt
MFGMagician
The_lone_ranger0
Microcap_Matty
LBJ_n_Aruba
Queens_14 and
runbead
By: KinsJon
25 Sep 2004, 12:45 PM EDT
Msg. 39197 of 39241
(This msg. is a reply to 39195 by joshgets46.)
Jump to msg. #
Josh:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Sept_25/ai_92026718
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Is that a rule somewhere in the Allstocks penal code?
I wondered where everybody went to on the old board.
Now I know--everyone is calling an attorney to get their name on the $10,000 list just in case Frank decides to go down that road!
Could we split it on U know who?
This could be some e-a-s-y money.
[This message has been edited by suzainiee (edited September 25, 2004).]
Not here to debate.
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What is everyone's 'take' on the re-release of the PR... It went from saying 2% of the A/S to 2% of the O/S...
I'd rather 2% of the A/S... espically if it is 50 billion,at 2% that is 1 Billion shares...
2% at 15 Billion is 300 Million...
2% at the O/S of 9.5 Billion (sp[eculation on my part) would be 175-195 Million shares, or abouts...
Again, I'd be happy with removing 195 Million shares... However can I pose this theory of mine:
Let us say the A/S IS infact 50 Billion... With an O/S of 9.5 Billion, of which:
Of 9.5 Billion Out Standing Shares we can estimate:
51%-55% is controlled by Frank.
1. So roughly 4.75 - 5.2 Billion shares are under Franks control to retain a controling percentage. Those shares are restricted.
2. How many shares are owned by insiders and are restricted? 10%, 5%??? I will go with 10% just because it's easy to do.
So 450 - 510 Million shares are owned by Insiders (presumably)...
3.
That leaves a public float of perhaps 4-5 Billion shares... Between roughly 6000-8000 share holders (March PR)
HOWEVER...
Frank said he will retire 25% of his shares (or so the rumor goes)... If he does he will lose control of the company, which is a problem. However this is an option...
If frank retires 25% of his restricted shares, and he has 4-5 Billion, 25% is roughly 1 Billion to 1 Billion 250 Million shares...
If he does this he will not have the proper 51% control... Or does he?
If frank purchases 2% of the A/S as part of the BUY BACK, AND IF THE A/S IS 50 BILLION, frank will buy back roughly 1 Billion shares...
Lets say he buys back the 1 Billion shares from the float (common or restricted)...
He retires those 1 billion BUYBACK shares into the treasury. At this point his percentage of control of the company will be much greater than the orginal 51%-55%, which is good for him and us. However, if he retires HIS 25%, which also equals 1 Billion (or 1 billion and 250 million, depending on what the real O/S is) his retaining control will fall back to 51%-55%... why?
Well he bought back 1 billion shares (lets say) and he retires his 25%, which equalls roughly 1 billion... he retired an equal amount of public and private shares... so in the end, his percentage of control would remain the same, go up slightly or even down slightly...
Do you see what I am saying? By him retiring an equal amount of shares as he bough back, there would be no loss for Frank, in controlling terms... He'd still be left with 51%-55% control, and we have, if this scenario panned out, 2 Billion less shares...
Our O/S would then be roughly 7 Billion shares...
If a Gay/Lesbian Network is worth AT LEAST ONE BILLION US DOLLARS, we are still worth AT LEAST .11 -.13 per share...
STILL UNDERVALUED AT .004x
Maybe this is byrd thinking, and maybe it should only be 'for the byrds', however, the numbers all pan out equal using the 50 billion A/S and 9.5 Billion O/S... Frank buys back 2% of the A/S (roughly 1 billion) and retires 25% of his shares ( roughly 1 billion)... It all equals out, frank doesn't lose and either do we...
-Byrd-
[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 25, 2004).]
A g/l NETWORK (not a channel, channels are for Chumps) is worth at least one billion dollars, as per Viacrapola...
Again, that is still roughly .11 a share, or what a 25 TIMES increase from what the pps is now!
I still say Frank will get the 0/S below 8 billion, maybe like 7 billion, and even at that, we are still worth a lot of money, even though I deffinatly think in time we can support 1 dollar a share... Remember Frank isn't going to sell out right away... He wants his name to be big, MUCH bigger than what it is now, and for him to get that, He can't sell out at a dime or even a quarter...
So if our Float is only 3 - 3.5 Billion after all is said and done, I still think we can break a dime, no questions asked... Factor in moving off the pinks, and all the other stuff, fifty cents isn't impossible...
-Byrd-
Yeah did I mention that Viacomm bought BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION for multiple BILLIONS of dollars??? (I think that is where the 'Noterious B.I.G.' made his Mega-millions... not 100% sure however)
BET in the mid-1990's SOLD FOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS....
Gay's have HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS IN SPENDING POWER...
If our market taps 1% of that spending power, We should be worth 5 billion dollars...
If we just tap 2/10th's of One Percent of the 500 Billion, we are worth ONE BILLION DOLLARS, OR .11-.13 per share...
AT TWO TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT PEOPLE!!!
All we need to do is tap 1% of that market, 5 billion dollars a year, if we reach an audiance of 5 billion dollars, would not our market cap reflect that? So now if we DO get 1%, or $5 Billion, that puts us DANGEROUSLY close to ONE DOLLAR PER SHARE...
It may not happen over night but right now what is our market? 1/100 of 1% of the 500 Billion? 50 Million dollars? Thats at 1/100th of 1 percent...
-John-
here's something interesting...
anyone noticed that bung hasn't been heard from since byrd left?
and more interesting...
bung's posts were always mispelled, but phonetically. PERFECTLY phonetically.
and... if you ever looked at his profile, every word in that profile was PERFECTLY spelled, and the info was like a joke.. a janitor whose hobbies were Star Wars toys and Care Bears? you can't speak english but you know about care bears? c'mon.
and he registered on Sept 9th, but managed to get 80 posts in within a couple days...
i guess anything to distract from Q's potential, huh? i hope if we see him back he is ignored.
anyway, that just always p'd me off so i had to speak up.
~BB
Since, QBID's progress is limiting the ammno,
they had to get more creative--beyond the phony PR.
John, I read through you posts several times. I also think .20 is a real possiblity.
Have a great rest of the weekend.
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
I will not doubt Frank anymore. With all the negativity, I was getting bad thoughts in my head and second guessing if we had done the wrong thing buying QBID. The bashers can come on here all they want to now and post whatever they want. We know we are going to be just fine and so will all the others who have stuck it out with us!! COME ON BASHERS, BRING IT ON...YOU CAN'T KNOCK ME DOWN ANYMORE.
WOO HOO....HOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWLLLLLLL. WOOT WOOT!!
Robin..not RobinO
Go get'em Deg!!!!
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited September 25, 2004).]
I am ready Clyde.
im wathing these 2 links periodically to see if the thread about RCN updating thier programing list this weekend is accurate or not. so far no updates, but still watching :-)
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
http://www.rcn.com/customer/cabletv_lineupchanges.php?market=San%20Francisco
quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
This message is only to any QBID BASHERS , I Hope frank will do what this company is going to do:
Frank should do what this company is doing about bashers:
Point9 Announces Establishment of Cash Fund of $10,000 for Each Individual Basher Identified and Turned Over to Legal Representatives of 37Point9
Ron, you really don't want QBID to do what TSPN (now known as GMDP) did. IMO GMDP turned out to be a scam, I was one ot the victums, big time. Cancelled 3 announced stock dividends all on the same day. CEO resigns on the same day.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited September 25, 2004).]
U4 will now tell you that they are lying as well part of Franks very intricate plan to have the whole world lie to us idiots that invested in QBID with blinders on. Funny how the lie has to keep getting bigger to fit U4FLOATYS bashing.
amazing the clout that Frank has to cover up his evil plans to scam the alstock board.
i guess it is all possible but i think i will hold long and go for the scam!!
Im ammazed that u4 is the only one smart enough to figure out Franks Scam.
Thanks Robyn not RobynO for the report.
where gonna get this money.
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
OK people. My head has been stuck up my gatooter for I guess months. Hubby and I were sitting and talking after I got home from my JOB and of course, talking about our QBID. Both of us had made remarks in the past about wishing we knew someone who were in all those areas that Q is being televised. For 45 years, I have had relatives living in San Francisco and I never even thougtht of calling them to find out if they could Q was actually there. I made my phone call to my cousins in So. San Francisco - zip code - 94080. They are on satelite but their neighbors across the street have RCN. I just got off the phone and it is CONFIRMED, Q is on channel 255 and at 3:00 (their time), The Gay Review is on. He couldn't see anything except what was coming on because it is a pay channel. I am too excited now.
Robin...not RobinO
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
I will not doubt Frank anymore. With all the negativity, I was getting bad thoughts in my head and second guessing if we had done the wrong thing buying QBID. The bashers can come on here all they want to now and post whatever they want. We know we are going to be just fine and so will all the others who have stuck it out with us!! COME ON BASHERS, BRING IT ON...YOU CAN'T KNOCK ME DOWN ANYMORE.
WOO HOO....HOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWLLLLLLL. WOOT WOOT!!
Robin..not RobinO
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Thanks for providing yet another sighting of the channel and going even further to list the show that is showing.U4 will now tell you that they are lying as well part of Franks very intricate plan to have the whole world lie to us idiots that invested in QBID with blinders on. Funny how the lie has to keep getting bigger to fit U4FLOATYS bashing.
amazing the clout that Frank has to cover up his evil plans to scam the alstock board.
i guess it is all possible but i think i will hold long and go for the scam!!
Im ammazed that u4 is the only one smart enough to figure out Franks Scam.
Thanks Robyn not RobynO for the report.
where gonna get this money.
Rod
U4 is really the Prophet Slurpy according to the scriptures of Ignoranus
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
welcome back JByrd =)here's something interesting...
anyone noticed that bung hasn't been heard from since byrd left?and more interesting...
bung's posts were always mispelled, but phonetically. PERFECTLY phonetically.and... if you ever looked at his profile, every word in that profile was PERFECTLY spelled, and the info was like a joke.. a janitor whose hobbies were Star Wars toys and Care Bears? you can't speak english but you know about care bears? c'mon.
and he registered on Sept 9th, but managed to get 80 posts in within a couple days...
i guess anything to distract from Q's potential, huh? i hope if we see him back he is ignored.
anyway, that just always p'd me off so i had to speak up.
~BB
Thanks BB, I agree with you even with my previous post. Just glad to see Byrd again.
.... I needed to hear it, just wishing I could see it. I sure wished I would of remembered the call to my relatives alot earlier than today. Could of been in the boxing ring some weeks back instead of walking away with my tail between my legs!! What I really need right now is to get a response from 1Big, Diana, Whiz, Pharm, Sunny. Then my day will be made. No, I take that back, the song.."Take This Job and Shove It"...that will make my day!! I'm off for a Texas Hold Em game now. Gonna bust some egos there too! Good Luck To Us All...)
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
I want Frank to stay in control; suffered thru 4 R/S this year and the heart couldn't handle
another one. He has promised (in writing too if I am correct) that as long as he stays in control, there will be no reverse split.
Well with this kind of thinking, it's obvious you're not RobinO A 'promise' in writing means nothing. Aaaaabsolutely nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada (or Notta for you Robin=U4 conspiracy theorists). This little gem was released in a PR a while back. Frankie boy said as long as he's in control, there will be no reverse split. Well that's just great, but it's too bad he's actually NOT in control. The board of directors has all the power. Now of course there's some question as to who these mystery men are, but regardless, the BOD has control over the CEO and all the other officers in the company. There was even a second PR that most of you have probably forgotten that stated something to the effect of "The BOD has voted not to do a reverse split.." Well if Frank really had the ability to prevent a r/s, why did the BOD have to vote on it? Answer: because they have control, and no promise that Frank makes can prevent them from doing whatever they want. This is pretty standard, but I think since Triangle Multimedia/QTN/Whatever is actually incorporated in Nevada, I looked it up and sure enough:
NRS 78.120 Board of directors: General powers.
1. Subject only to such limitations as may be provided by this chapter, or the articles of incorporation of the corporation, the board of directors has full control over the affairs of the corporation.
Now then, how can Frank prevent a reverse split if the BOD votes for one?
quote:
And, IMO, with that many shares still out, it would really be silly to even have think can could happen (that's what my wittle bwain keeps telling me). Any thoughts?
Well you asked for our thoughts, so I'm providing them. Deal with it Anyway, the fact that they have so many shares makes it MORE likely to happen. I wouldn't be surprised to see one in the next 6 months.
-R
Maybe I'll go out and get a cherry coke with vanilla ice cream.
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Thanks Robyn not RobynO for the report.
Yes penni-trader, this is good news that they're on the air. The potential has just stepped up a notch. Now let's get some subscription numbers and corporate backing shall we? Remember, even cable access shows are on the air. That doesn't mean anyone's watching
-R
[This message has been edited by RobinO (edited September 25, 2004).]
If it were a case of a new TV network that had successfully launched, and was airing across the country, and was trying to get the attention of the "Big Money" that wouldn't stoop so low as to invest in penny stocks, well then, in this rare case, maybe we could deal with a R/S.
Reverse splits aren't inherently bad, right? It's just that most companies who do it are on the decline. But a company on the rise, doing a R/S, and lowering their O/S, and moving to a bigger exchange, could possibly benefit from it.
Hypothetically speaking. Worse-case scenario, and all that...
But hey, what do I know?
[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 25, 2004).]
September 24, 2004
Q Television Network Announces Signal Move Successful; QTN is Broadcasting Again
September 23, 2004
Q Television Network announced the first round of buy-backs for QBID common stock within the next six weeks.
September 20, 2004
Q Television Network Hires Rubenstein Associates
September 17, 2004
Q Television Network Announces an Agreement with Firestone Communications (FCI) to Produce Live Programming.
September 16, 2004
Q TELEVISION NETWORK PURCHASES STUDIO; Announces It Has Acquired Exclusive Rights to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championship.
September 15, 2004
Q Television Network Moves its Satellite Signal; Network Announces an Agreement with Firestone Communications.
September 8, 2004
Q Television Network launches! In San Francisco on Channel 255.
August 31, 2004
Q Television Network Acquires Film Package from Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution.
Agust 18, 2004
Q Television appears in Deserts Sun Newspapers with a full page ad.
July 21, 2004
Q Television and RCN Corporation Announce Distribution Agreement
June 29, 2004
Cable Industry Executive Joins Q Television Network. Michael Markovsky to Lead Carriage Contract Negotiations
June 15, 2004
Q Television has hired Advertising Executive Scott Seger
June 03, 2004
Q Television received considerable response from potential carriers and advertisers seeking more information regarding the network
Network executives will travel to New York City June 6 - 11 to meet with private equity funds, hedge funds and securities dealers.
May 28, 2004
Number of Market Makers on QBID jumps to 34!
May 26, 2004
industry soft launch for carriers and advertisers begins June 1, 2004 on Intelsat America's 7, 129 degrees West, Channel 1
Tue, May 18, 2004
Q Television Network announced today the successful completion of its five-hour test broadcast on Saturday, May 15th
Fri, May 14, 2004
Q Television Network Announces Additional Details of Five-Hour Sneak Preview Broadcast Scheduled for Saturday May 15th
Wed, May 12, 2004
Q Television Network Announces Details of Test Broadcast
Tue, May 11, 2004
Q Television Network Confirms Soft Launch
Mon, May 10, 2004
Q Television Network a Smash Hit at Major Convention
Tue, May 4, 2004
Q Television Network names Promotion Partner
Mon, May 3, 2004
CORRECTING and REPLACING: Q Television Network names Promotion Partner
Fri, Apr 16, 2004
Triangle Television Announces Name Change to Q Television Network
Thu, Apr 1, 2004
Triangle to Have Major Presence At NCTA Convention
Mon, Mar 15, 2004
Olsen and Lamont to Broadcast Gay Network
Thu, Mar 4, 2004
Grunberg Returns to Triangle Television
Thu, Feb 26, 2004
Triangle Multi-Media: Frank Olsen Alerts Shareholders
Wed, Feb 25, 2004
Triangle Begins Production of New Documentary
major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday
QBID will be off the pinks really soon
announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month
(check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week
shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term
frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times
emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters
QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock
there is alot of shares but just like the stock ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex
if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move
i have placed all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals
in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")
QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance
right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch So far we have 6
qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week
I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon
QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or friday.
And fyi- I posted on Craigs List & got these email confirmations BEFORE I told anyone on this board that I had done so. Just in case ;-)
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I posted the following on Craig's List in SanFran:
Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Hi.
I know- weird request- but Qtv, the new gay & lesbian tv network, insists that they are broadcasting on RCN cable channel 250 or 255 (mixed reports).
The investors in this new network's stock (it's a penny stock), me being one of them, are trying to confirm that this is actually happening. I personally only know people in SanFran with Direct TV, but QTV is only on RCN.
So, if you have RCN, could you flip to those two channels, 250 and 255, and let me know what you see? I would really appreciate it!!!
Thanks =)
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--> RESPONSE #1: (notice the email addy @RCN.com)
-----Original Message-----
From: steve ********* [mailto:*****@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:09 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: I see QTV on 255 and pay per view on 250
on RCN
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--> RESPONSE TO MY CRAIGS LIST POSTING #2:
-----Original Message-----
From: *********@aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Right now on channel 255 its something with an actress know as Stockard Channing it looks like an old sitcm from the early 80's, but the channel doesnt even play, it's like there playing a worn tape and it is sorta scrambled but not and on channel 250 it is the on demand selection. Hope this helps you out.
Regards,
Jordan
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~BB
there is a BOD then there isnt a BOD, its a scam, its not a scam, im for it im against it. im with you you are on your own.
you at least have all the angles covered.
does it hurt sitting on the fence like that.
edit= spelling
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Well you asked for our thoughts, so I'm providing them. Deal with it-R
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited September 25, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Why do you want to sabatoge your own existing (200k?) shares? I am really confused.
How could I possibly sabotage this company? If a company tanks because one person asks questions about it, what good is the company to begin with? The success of this company depends entirely on how QTN proceeds. If you think you or I have any effect on the future of a television station by talking between 20-30 people on an online forum, you're nuts.
Other Robin: If you think I should just shut up and leave because I've said what I had to say, doesn't that mean you should as well? After all, you've said what your hopes and dreams are, so why not go away and let things happen as they will? Why should this rule only apply to me? And no, I'm not Purl Gurl, although I wish there were more people like her still around. It's good to talk with people who actually use logic and reason every now and then...
-R
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
How could I possibly sabotage this company? If a company tanks because one person asks questions about it, what good is the company to begin with? The success of this company depends entirely on how QTN proceeds. If you think you or I have any effect on the future of a television station by talking between 20-30 people on an online forum, you're nuts.Other Robin: If you think I should just shut up and leave because I've said what I had to say, doesn't that mean you should as well? After all, you've said what your hopes and dreams are, so why not go away and let things happen as they will? Why should this rule only apply to me? And no, I'm not Purl Gurl, although I wish there were more people like her still around. It's good to talk with people who actually use logic and reason every now and then...
-R
RobinO - I wouldn't say that anyone wants you to leave. I have never thought of you as a basher but, by the overall tone of your posts I feel you want the stock to fail.
quote:
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Originally posted by firefly:
Why do you want to sabatoge your own existing (200k?) shares? I am really confused.
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How could I possibly sabotage this company? If a company tanks because one person asks questions about it, what good is the company to begin with? The success of this company depends entirely on how QTN proceeds. If you think you or I have any effect on the future of a television station by talking between 20-30 people on an online forum, you're nuts.
Other Robin: If you think I should just shut up and leave because I've said what I had to say, doesn't that mean you should as well? After all, you've said what your hopes and dreams are, so why not go away and let things happen as they will? Why should this rule only apply to me? And no, I'm not Purl Gurl, although I wish there were more people like her still around. It's good to talk with people who actually use logic and reason every now and then...
-R
Sincerely,
DJSeoane
quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
Hey all, I first posted on this same topic on May 31st. I see a few months later it still is a hot topic. I want to start by saying this is not a negative post what so ever. I actually think this stock has great potential, but back in the first week of June 04 this stock was around 1.5 cents per share. Now it has dropped to less than .5 cents per share. I still want to buy this stock but a good friend of mine invested most all he had when it was floating between 1-2 cents. Strangely enough that was when I had originally planed to invest also. I opted at the last moment not to get the stock to see if it would actually start performing. Well hell to be totally honest I actually spent my money on an Alpine sound system for my new Nissan Frontier Quad Cab. I figured I am getting older and you only live once. Now I got that off my chest, on to the real topic at hand.... I gather from some of the posts here QBID has launched in limited markets as a pay channel. I am not a smart man as you can tell by my poor spelling and bad investment choices, but how on Gods Green Earth is QBID going to get sponsors on a pay channel. I will admit at some point in my life I paid for the Playboy Channel, HBO and may be even the Gulf Channel... well maybe not the Gulf channel, but some of you may be following me with this. The one thing they all have in common is that they receive 95% of their income because they are a pay to view service not by sponsors or commercials. So I say we all rally together hold hands and sing Kum-bi-ya and hope this Stock goes more mainstream and starts to be offered as maybe part of some premium service the cable/sat companies offer, you know like the top 150 channels or something like that so QBID can actually get sponsors. Hell they would make millions just off Condom adds. That was a joke by the way, and was not direct toward any group in particular, so please no rants or raves on this. I will probably start picking up pieces of this stock very soon now and keep buying as long as it continues to show at least some promise. I welcome any comments or questions on any topic other than why do I type so badly.Sincerely,
DJSeoane
You need to search Betting Babe's post. She answered the advertising / pay channel question
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
THANK YOU CLYDE!
i was sitting here shaking my head.
~BB
BB...you do that too??
This is the 20th time we've started a QBID thread. The last thread was supposed to be XIX!
Dime by December may be conservative estimate if things kick in to hiogh gear.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
but, in the interest of building good karma, i did a search and found my previous post.
djs, here ya go. don't think of "advertisers and sponsors" in terms of commercials.. think in terms of product placement within tv shows, subliminal content within the "news" etc.
for example, in the "news segment" pepsi pays for the Qewscaster to announce that pepsi has released a new product. they do a little report on it, go to people n the street and say hey what do you think of it? stuff like that.
get it?
Ok.. here ya go!
~BB
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
I got to thinking I could add some insight into launching a new tv network. Those of you who know me on this board know I'm legit. And verifiable via my website...Those of you who have on-demand cable access will be able to see me as the host of the new tv network Expo TV launching Oct. 1st. Before you rip me to pieces, let me tell you that Oprah is the financial backer of the network, the crew is from Oxygen Network and we filmed at Oxygen Studios here in NYC.
First, while this network is also ONE CHANNEL its aim is to be advertiser-driven. Hidden in the content of what I say may be a plug for an advertiser or just some new news that the sponsor- say, for instance, Pepsi wants to promote a new product- wants to get it out there to the public without making it seem like advertising, and that generates revenue for the network. It's not a commercial. I've seen a lot of questions on how that kind of thing works. So there ya go.
Second, Expo plans to run 20 hours of programming for the cable operators to use to "launch" the network. That cycle will run for about 3 months +. Much like Q seems to be doing.
Third, I don't know what kind of tv experience U4 has, but when he stated "UH, 67 FEET HIGH IS A JOKE. MOST STUDIO'S ARE AT BEST 30-FEET HIGH. TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE WE HAVE 67 FEET TO "FLY" LIGHT/SOUND IS A JOKE AND MADE TO LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT IS MEANT" that's just absurd. I've never filmed in a tv studio that was 30 feet high. Where would the sets be stored? The boom itself is 15-feet +. A photo studio is about 30 feet high, but not tv.
It's also important to have the right facilities to shoot in. We didn't have as much insulation as we needed on our last filming, so we would have to cut if the sound engineers caught a noise from outside in the audio, someone opening a door, etc. In all, even though there's financing behind Expo, it still has a strict budget until launch. I imagine it's much the same with Q.
And, even with multiple professionals working on it, we have seen setbacks, reorganizations, mind changes and all kinds of difficulties wth our first productions. It NEVER goes smoothly. But that's the nature of the business, and it is to be taken in stride. you can't just go with initial decisions because you're afraid of making changes. Which is why I sit on my Q as a long, hoping that it all comes together in the end.
Hope the insight helps.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
THANK YOU CLYDE!
i was sitting here shaking my head.
~BB
BB, I must have missed your post that explained this. I was under the impression that it was not on channel 250 or 255 and was on demand from your last post, which to me ment it was a pay service. I have not posted here in a while but from what I remember you were in a select group of people on this bulletin board that gave out some very good advice. Sorry if this post was dissapointing to you all.
Sincerely,
djseoane
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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.
Hey, I think condoms with 'Q' on the packaging would be terrific...no sarcasm here. Hey, promoting safe sex AND getting advertising, too? Works for me. ( This advertising idea my husband and I actually thought of back in May...our minds are always churning.)
Byrd..JB It is soooo wonderful to see you back...you always make me laugh and smile. Looking forward to seeing your posts on Monday. I also like your 'analysis' of Frank's buy back. At .11 cents, I'd be, uh, pretty comfortable! LOL
Betting Babe and Degs Wife, thanks for all the confirmations. Makes everyone feel great knowing our Q is on the AIR! Woot!
I've been wondering all day what this next trading week will bring us Qbidders. Could be mighty terrific...biting nails and waiting with bated breath for more news releases...Yippee!
Hope everyone is having a good Saturday.
on page 1 of this thread i posted the two email responses that i got form RCN customers in SanFran. Both said that channel 255 WAS QTV AND channel 250 is pay-per-view. Which clarified which channel we are broadcasting on- 255.
Above I have reposted my opinion on how they will integrate sponsors & advertisers, integrating them into the CONTENT of the shows versus conventional commercials.
hope this catches you up a bit!
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
BB, I must have missed your post that explained this. I was under the impression that it was not on channel 250 or 255 and was on demand from your last post, which to me ment it was a pay service. I have not posted here in a while but from what I remember you were in a select group of people on this bulletin board that gave out some very good advice. Sorry if this post was dissapointing to you all.
Sincerely,
djseoane
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
no worries, but if you put money in Q it's important to stay informed, right?on page 1 of this thread i posted the two email responses that i got form RCN customers in SanFran. Both said that channel 255 WAS QTV AND channel 250 is pay-per-view. Which clarified which channel we are broadcasting on- 255.
Above I have reposted my opinion on how they will integrate sponsors & advertisers, integrating them into the CONTENT of the shows versus conventional commercials.
hope this catches you up a bit!
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
52 pages...And what happened to Mr. Bung...???
Suzannie
Welcome Back, JB!
Sincerely,
djseoane
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
no worries, but if you put money in Q it's important to stay informed, right?on page 1 of this thread i posted the two email responses that i got form RCN customers in SanFran. Both said that channel 255 WAS QTV AND channel 250 is pay-per-view. Which clarified which channel we are broadcasting on- 255.
Above I have reposted my opinion on how they will integrate sponsors & advertisers, integrating them into the CONTENT of the shows versus conventional commercials.
hope this catches you up a bit!
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
BB, Thanks for the info, and you are 100% correct I need to stay up on this topic if am investing in it. I am actually foward deployed in the military and have limited time for this and had not log on to this site in a few months and was just suprised that QBID was still top on peoples list here.
Again thanks for the repost you gave, your time and effort was much appreciated.
Sincerely,
djseoane
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
I am relaxed...NOW
Robin (the good seed
OK!
You're hearing from whiz now. I enjoyed your post about friends actually seeing & confirming the broadcast of QBID. What's sweet is more confirmations will trickle in & then tons will roll in. It would appear that things are falling in place!
I'm at work & need to do a lot of writing so I will check in late tonight.
Excellent DD Robin-not-O!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
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Originally posted by sunny:
Pharm..you doing okay down there in Florida right now?
Hi sunny! So far, so good, but thanks for thinking of me! Battening down the hatches as we speak. It's headed this way by tomorrow, so we're already getting winds/rain and a tornado watch. This is getting old.
A very small change in track will spare my area and still manage to sweep through 2FLOATY4U's area. Perhaps this is Mother Nature's attempt to FLUSH him from the planet!
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Hi sunny! So far, so good, but thanks for thinking of me! Battening down the hatches as we speak. It's headed this way by tomorrow, so we're already getting winds/rain and a tornado watch. This is getting old.A very small change in track will spare my area and still manage to sweep through 2FLOATY4U's area. Perhaps this is Mother Nature's attempt to [b]FLUSH him from the planet!
Thanks for all you do for us! Stay safe!
Sincerely,
djseoane
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Thanks for the good wishes everyone! But my dangers are small compared to some other folks like djseoane's.Thanks for all you do for us! Stay safe!
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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.
Sincerely,
djseoane
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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.
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I posted the following on Craig's List in SanFran:
Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Hi.
I know- weird request- but Qtv, the new gay & lesbian tv network, insists that they are broadcasting on RCN cable channel 250 or 255 (mixed reports).
The investors in this new network's stock (it's a penny stock), me being one of them, are trying to confirm that this is actually happening. I personally only know people in SanFran with Direct TV, but QTV is only on RCN.
So, if you have RCN, could you flip to those two channels, 250 and 255, and let me know what you see? I would really appreciate it!!!
Thanks =)
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--> RESPONSE #1: (notice the email addy @RCN.com)
-----Original Message-----
From: steve ********* [mailto:*****@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:09 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: I see QTV on 255 and pay per view on 250
on RCN
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--> RESPONSE TO MY CRAIGS LIST POSTING #2:
-----Original Message-----
From: *********@aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Right now on channel 255 its something with an actress know as Stockard Channing it looks like an old sitcm from the early 80's, but the channel doesnt even play, it's like there playing a worn tape and it is sorta scrambled but not and on channel 250 it is the on demand selection. Hope this helps you out.
Regards,
Jordan
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--> RESPONSE #3 (note: i reposted my ad on Craigs List and included my real email addy so people know I'm for real)
-----Original Message-----
From: Zack ***** [mailto:******@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:01 PM
To: ppatrice@*nospam*paulapatrice.*nospam*com
Subject: QTV & RCN
Hi Paula,
I just saw your ad on craigslist.
I just checked and QTV is on Channel 255 through RCN right now. "The
Stylists" is the program, however it is not pushing through any audio,
only video.
Hope this helps - I'm sure you've gotten plenty of responses.
Take care,
Zack
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well, i didn't get tons of responses, but we're getting somewhere...
~BB
NORTHPOLE!!!
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
*** UPDATE *** UPDATE *** UPDATE ***
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Why do you want to sabatoge your own existing (200k?) shares? I am really confused.
Because he's a paid basher.........
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
RobinO...I related to another person some months back that went by the name of Purl Gurl. Haven't see her around for quite some time. As a matter of fact, she quit posting and then you came on with almost the same technique as her with your wording, responsing, etc. I will not, repeat, will not start anything with anyone here on Allstocks anymore. You have made your point some weeks back. I, for one, am getting kind of tired of seeing the same thing being typed by you with almost every post you bring on here. If you don't like QBID, then go on. If you are trying to warn us of things that could happen, you've done your job, go on. One bad apple, hon...you are not getting in my bag. Thanks for your help, but no thanks. Good luck in your ventures, I wish you all the luck.
Robin (the good seed)
GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELY ON THE DIME...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by whizknock:
News Flash!This is the 20th time we've started a QBID thread. The last thread was supposed to be XIX!
I admitted when I started the last thread I got the wrong number. But if one were to review all the QBID threads you'd find that we actually skipped from VIII to XII in May! So in a way my blunder mearly got us back to where we should have been all along. Sometimes two wrongs do make a right!
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
RobinO...Did I tell you to leave?...
Actually, you said:
"I, for one, am getting kind of tired of seeing the same thing being typed by you with almost every post you bring on here. If you don't like QBID, then go on."
Sounds kinda like telling me to shut up and leave. Yes I might be saying the same thing over and over, but isn't everyone else? I think Whiznock has posted the exact same thing every 15-20 messages for the last 3 months. No one seems to mind though, because he's saying something you want to hear. I just happen to be repeating something from a different perspective that doesn't agree with your view of the world. If you don't like hearing dissenting opinions, move to China. In the meantime, I'll stick around to see if they ever file with the SEC, get major corporate backing, and build up a decent number of subscriptions.
-R
as for an r/s, i'm in no way an expert but in the 4 yrs i've been watching all stock markets closely (not so much pennies)i've yet to see a company buy back shares and then do a r/s. its makes no sense wasting money in a buy back to then in a short period of time have a r/s. even U4 isn't that stupid, well maybe thats a bad example the o/s might need to be drasticlly reduced to go to a big board but not to go to the otc. getting off the pinks will go a long way towards getting big money to invest. if frank can get a couple top 5 cable company contracts and some quality programing q could easily become a buy out target the way BET was. maybe 3 or 4 yrs from now
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 26, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Actually, you said:"I, for one, am getting kind of tired of seeing the same thing being typed by you with almost every post you bring on here. If you don't like QBID, then go on."
Sounds kinda like telling me to shut up and leave. Yes I might be saying the same thing over and over, but isn't everyone else? I think Whiznock has posted the exact same thing every 15-20 messages for the last 3 months. No one seems to mind though, because he's saying something you want to hear. I just happen to be repeating something from a different perspective that doesn't agree with your view of the world. If you don't like hearing dissenting opinions, move to China. In the meantime, I'll stick around to see if they ever file with the SEC, get major corporate backing, and build up a decent number of subscriptions.
-R
Please shut up and leave U4's alias!! There, I said it. You're exactly like U4....spend a lot of time bashing a stock you say you have 200k shares ( a whopping $860 bucks)......sounds awfully suspicious.......If you don't want the risk and headache, go spend it on a hooker and a few rounds of black jack.....your odds might be better and you sound like you need to get laid as tight as your wound....my guess is you are an anal retentive engineer or something like that...I deal with them all the time...you just have to make your point no matter how stupid and ridiculous you sound....you must have a lot of friends.
so go off forum and continue your war there.
this is not productive at all.
Rod
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited September 26, 2004).]
Just think about it.
and in case y'all missed this one the other day, i thought the fact that it made mainstream news just gave us one more celeb in our corner...
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September 24, 2004
'Sex and the City' Star Switches Roles
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
NEW YORK (AP) -- ``Sex and the City'' has taken on a whole new meaning for Cynthia Nixon. The actress, who just won an Emmy for her role as Miranda Hobbes in the hit HBO comedy, is in a relationship with another woman, a source who works with Nixon told The Associated Press on Friday.
The New York Daily News and the New York Post reported Friday that Nixon has been dating a woman since January. The woman is neither in the public eye nor living with Nixon.
``We will not confirm or deny anything,'' Nixon's publicist, Carrie Ross, told AP.
``My private life is private,'' Nixon told the Daily News. ``But at the same time, I have nothing to hide. So what I will say is that I am very happy.''
The actress split in June 2003 with photographer and high school sweetheart Danny Mozes, whom she'd been with for 15 years (but never married). They now share custody of their two children.
If ``Sex and the City'' were to be believed, the revelation would have been more expected from Kim Cattrall's character, Samantha, whose many, many TV conquests included one woman.
Nixon's lawyer character was the cool professional of the bunch, although her boss mistook her for a lesbian in the first season and set her up with a woman, resulting in a single kiss. But Miranda never dallied further and ended up married to her bartender boyfriend.
After two previous nominations, Nixon, 38, won an Emmy this year for her performance on the HBO show. She is working on ``Tanner on Tanner,'' a Robert Altman and Gary Trudeau miniseries for the Sundance Channel.
~BB
funny how i hit that pepsi thing ;-)
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Originally posted by firefly:
As usual skunks, you came through again. http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=6179
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
I would like to make a suggestion to both kommoncents and RobinO. this is starting to get old, why dont the 2 of you exchange e-mail addresses and take it off line. it is basically the 2 of you slamming each other now.so go off forum and continue your war there.
this is not productive at all.
Rod
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited September 26, 2004).]
R a g i n g B u l l BB would be an excellent meeting place for RobinO and Kommon when they want to altercate, argufy, brawl, caterwaul, cavil, dig, disagree, dispute, fall out, fight, hassle, pick at, quarrel, quibble, row, scrap, scrape, spar, spat, squabble, tiff and wrangle.
Hope I covered all the possibilities.
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited September 26, 2004).]
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
just thought i would bring these forward.im wathing these 2 links periodically to see if the thread about RCN updating thier programing list this weekend is accurate or not. so far no updates, but still watching :-)
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
http://www.rcn.com/customer/cabletv_lineupchanges.php?market=San%20Francisco
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Actually, you said:"I, for one, am getting kind of tired of seeing the same thing being typed by you with almost every post you bring on here. If you don't like QBID, then go on."
Sounds kinda like telling me to shut up and leave. Yes I might be saying the same thing over and over, but isn't everyone else? I think Whiznock has posted the exact same thing every 15-20 messages for the last 3 months. -R
Whizknock breaks stuff down to the simplest elements,,,
Genuine Broacasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than $1 a share.
Pretty much boils down to one simple fact & the signs are all there for even the greatest doubters to see,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Betting Babe, lol I hope you aren't saying that I am Mr. Bung...lol... I am not , trust me, as clever as I can be, that was BEYOND me...lol, the work of someone much more devious then I can or could be lol, I never checked his Profile, and he was only here that one day we all had that huge laugh that night.... which was still the funnier of the times I have had on this message board. Gonxdx
Lololol....
Sunny, 1bigTip, Thank you it is good to be home
1bigTip, thanks for the Marco Posts...
Today is just a boring Sunday... Time to get breakfast, yummmm Egg Sandwhich...hehe...
Thanks for all those good posts Betting Babe (Lol our little 'TinkerBelle' )
-John/ aka Byrd- but NOT Bung however!lol)
[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 26, 2004).]
however, i did feel it was someone who knew your posts well and was goading you on.. and i believe he posted a couple of days at least. i think they were in a row. too lazy to check.
BUT when I saw his profile I knew he wasn't for real. Oddly, he did have 80 posts recorded (yes, and that janitor/carebear hobby thing). Just made me wonder who so desperately wanted to distract from factual information exchanged on Q.
Now, stop "tinkering" with my "belle" and go eat yer eggs.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:Betting Babe, lol I hope you aren't saying that I am Mr. Bung...lol... I am not , trust me, as clever as I can be, that was BEYOND me...lol, the work of someone much more devious then I can or could be
Thanks for all those good posts Betting Babe (Lol our little 'TinkerBelle' )
-John/ aka Byrd- but NOT Bung however!lol)
[This message has been edited by retireyoung (edited September 26, 2004).]
"Now, stop "tinkering" with my "belle" and go eat yer eggs."
Lolol, Since this is the new and 'improved' JBCak47/Blueeyed I will refrain from making ANY JOKES or otherwise 'trucker' like statements on the above message you wrote...
Lol, funny you say Care bears and Star Wars as I do remember making remarks aimed at those two things...hmmm...
Funny though I'd expect Mr.Bung to take place on the CMKX thread...
Only because that is where 99.9% of my *trouble* was/is...lol...
Hmmm KGB Communist Infiltration, (InFLIRTtation is what all us guys do with Wizardress, suzannie, sunny and BettingBabe,hehe ) KGB? Must be 2dumb4us errr 2fastinbed, err u2canBhookedONphonics
It's a communist plot, led by U4....
THOSE DAMN COMMUNISTS... POISINING OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!!! IT'S THE FLOURIDE!!!!
"Mien Fuhrer~, I CAN WALK!!"
"You wouldn't be a human being if you didn't have feelings about Nuclear Combat"
(Dr. Strangelove OR How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb)
MR.BUNG IS A COMMIE PLOT
-Byrd-
[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
I would like to make a suggestion to both kommoncents and RobinO. this is starting to get old, why dont the 2 of you exchange e-mail addresses and take it off line. it is basically the 2 of you slamming each other now.
Huh? I was responding to the other Robin. I haven't responded to kommoncents for a while now, not worth the effort. The bashing going on there is completely one sided.
-R
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
silly, you couldn't be mr. bung. he didn't talk like a trucker. lolhowever, i did feel it was someone who knew your posts well and was goading you on.. and i believe he posted a couple of days at least. i think they were in a row. too lazy to check.
BUT when I saw his profile I knew he wasn't for real. Oddly, he did have 80 posts recorded (yes, and that janitor/carebear hobby thing). Just made me wonder who so desperately wanted to distract from factual information exchanged on Q.Now, stop "tinkering" with my "belle" and go eat yer eggs.
~BB
I thought the same thing BB. After I looked at his profile, I knew he was a joke too. He was definitly distracting, but it was funny. I admit that I egged him on almost as much as John. What he did was pretty ingenious. It probably took a little work to spell out his posts phoentically. There is no doubt that he was not for real.
Perhaps who ever Mr. Bung was should go into comedy, as that was hysterical...
Thank you ALLSTOCKS! Where esle can we get the bests 'tips' and the craziest 'laughs' in one place? Allstocks baby, yeahhhhhhh!
(I still think it was a Communist Plot... Unleash the DOOMSDAY DEVICE )
-Byrd-
-John-
However, the ignore feature is too much like a 5 year old plugging his ears and yelling LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. It doesn't actually solve anything, since the offending users are still here posting their garbage. Removing the users who do nothing but fling pooh is the only reasonable option in my opinion.
-R
The problem with people like you is you take every opportunity to bring a stock down that has made you money for whatever reason. Great news came out this week with QBID and one of the first things to be said came from you, RobinO and U4.
Now, I have 6.75MM shares of this stock and have been in and out of QBID several times. I often wonder how much the bashing that has gone on here from purveyors such as yourself and U4 have contributed to the reduction in pps. Now I know your going to blame Frank etc but you cannot deny the FACT that negative, dissenting, and bashing opinions in the face of great news SCARES away those newbies and other investors who play pennies and understand the risk.
In other words, if you are going to sling mud, you are going to get it back. Play nice, then there is no problem. How many people on this board are sick of you (RobinO) and U4tsaf2??? Especially after last week....my investment is important to me and I don't appreciate you agreeing with a guy like U4 who has turned 180 degrees around and then you say he "has valid points." What kind of credibility does that give you especially after your negative bashing last week?? It was like clockwork with U4 and RobinO!!
Last week the 50B rumor came out.....I gave the DD on it...stating it was a rumor and why....I even called the Sec St of WA and confirmed the two different entities.....the point again you jumped on this to bash Frank without any proof!!! U4 did the same....I have seen the dilution theory to Frank doesn't deliver to Frank is scamming to you(RobinO) telling everyone "How Frank should be doing it."......Gimme a break!! I am damn tired of seeing the negativity and feel that many new people will read your post and U4's and run away...
The one fact remains: this ran up to .028 as I watched it come from nothing at .0001.....and what has changed now is more bashers and Frank is delivering but certain intrinsic negative people (RobinO and U4) and other bashers are out in force to make this stock sink!!! This to me is more disgusting that whatever I could have told you in person to your face...period. It shows a lack of judgment and scruples.
Thank you.
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 26, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
I am relaxed...NOW
Robin (the good seed
ROBIN--I AM HERE. I HAVE MISSED YOU VERY MUCH. GLAD TO SEE YOU POST. PLEASE CALL ME!!
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DIANA
here's an all time fav...an oldie but goodie
...anyone remember??
rutti1 7/1/04 91 posts pages 32-42
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rutti1 final 2 posts 7/2/04...16:19.....16:20
--I GOT SCAMED AND I KNOW
--IM NOT BASHING JUST NEED FACTS SO PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
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well, here's bung's...
Bung-Diddler 9/9/04 80 posts pages 5-12
janitor, OrangeCA, Star Wars toys/Care Bears
1st post 9/9/04 14:05
--i hear that mr olsen is purposefully seeling his shares at small price in
to make for a manipulation of pps.
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/009033-5.html
last post 9/10/04 17:52
--to qbid! i love sares and buy nad sell.
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
silly, you couldn't be mr. bung. he didn't talk like a trucker. lolhowever, i did feel it was someone who knew your posts well and was goading you on.. and i believe he posted a couple of days at least. i think they were in a row. too lazy to check.
BUT when I saw his profile I knew he wasn't for real. Oddly, he did have 80 posts recorded (yes, and that janitor/carebear hobby thing). Just made me wonder who so desperately wanted to distract from factual information exchanged on Q.Now, stop "tinkering" with my "belle" and go eat yer eggs.
~BB
[This message has been edited by King Crimson (edited September 26, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by retireyoung:
Still not on tv listings either. http://tv.ya hoo.com/grid?title=&subtit=&desc=&contrib=&search=&starthour=&startdate=&range=&src=&setlineupcookie=true&.intl=us&zip=94102&.done=&lineup=us_CA02268d
shouldn't you be "Just Looking" at the past few pages for an answer to that??
i'd pay attention to betting babe and Deg's wife's posts.......been covered pretty well
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Can anyone confirm that QTV is actually on the air in S.F.?
it has been covered.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Can anyone confirm that QTV is actually on the air in S.F.?
Hoping more good news comes QBID's way...want to see green.
Hope everyone is doing well and having a lovely Sunday evening...Firefly is probably having cocktails...
those 2 certainly generated some interest...
well, at least each for their respective 2 days..
The last few pages hasn't answered anything but the hope that its true and that you should research for yourself for proof.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
this should be winsum saying this, but i'll try......shouldn't you be "Just Looking" at the past few pages for an answer to that??
i'd pay attention to betting babe and Deg's wife's posts.......been covered pretty well
Amidst the noisy advertising battle of the soft drink titans, PepsiCo quietly joined the growing list of corporations marching into Gay Pride events. It is the first effort to reach gay Americans by any soft drink in the $63.8 billion annual U.S. cola market.
Floats promoting 80 gay businesses, nonprofits and major corporations lined the side streets of Fifth Avenue. A cacophony of competing dance songs blared from each one while muscle boys and drag queens, the dominant float decorations, patiently waited their turn to enter the fray of the massive, 35th annual New York City Pride Parade.
At the more sedate float promoting Pepsi, festooned with bubble machines, a DJ spun records from the floats top tier, but the only one in drag was an enormous blow-up Pepsi bottle with a blonde wig. Pepsi employees, decked out in corporate gray or black Diet Pepsi T-shirts and hats, jogged down the parade route accompanied by members of the Big Apple gay softball league. They handed out 8,000 cans of new Pepsi Edge soda (half the carbohydrates and sugar of regular, but not quite diet) and 78,000 blue Mardis Gras bead necklaces to hundreds of thousands of eager attendees.
The presence of Purchase, NY-based PepsiCo was largely inspired by its new gay employee group, EQUAL, formed in December 2003. Such groups have become a force in motivating their companies to look at gay marketing.
A greater presence for Diet Pepsi in gay media is anticipated later this year, though no details are confirmed. Intriguingly, gay themes have already crept into the companys general ads. Up in Canada, a flamboyant man broke the news of his bisexuality in a Pepsi commercial. Also there, Pepsi was recently a sponsor of PrideVision gay TV network. Arch-enemy Coca-Cola has not yet made U.S. gay marketing efforts, aside from sponsorship of Gay Pride in Atlanta, its home city, and Montreal.
Attendance Tricky, but Pride Events Offer Image, Sampling Opportunity
For many advertisers, Pride parade and festival sponsorships are a key component of gay presence. This year, Bud Light, Delta Airlines, Showtime, Smirnoff, Starbucks and Washington Mutual were among the largest corporate brands strutting their stuff at multiple Pride events.
As corporations increasingly capitalize on the notion of gays as early adopters, trend setters and thought leaders by introducing new products to them in gay magazines, Pride events can be a way to introduce new products into the hands, literally, of the gay marketplace.
Most Pride parades reported attendance boosts this year, though some call the numbers inflated and actual statistics are untracked. Reporting comes from organizers (who want to emphasize size) instead of police (who avoid being accused of undercounting) or third-party sources.
Thus, New York City parade organizers say attendance this year was 1.5 million, the largest in the country. San Franciscos parade claimed a million this year, compared to last years 750,000 by police count. Toronto also regularly asserts 750,000, Chicago estimated 400,000, Los Angeles-West Hollywood and Boston each 250,000-300,000, Washington, D.C., about 200,000, and numbers for smaller cities like Minneapolis fall at or under 100,000. Atlanta Pride officials said event attendance fell from last years 300,000 to 100,000 people because of rain.
But parade organizers dont concentrate much on attendance to sell sponsorships, something they say advertisers are not concerned with. Corporations look at whether its a significant media market more so than attendance, notes Aandre Davis, operations director for Boston Pride.
Attendance is not as important as sampling, echoes Scott Seitz, founder of SPI Marketing in New York, and a former eight-year Pepsi employee. Seitz organized Pepsis parade presence, and over the last eight years has also done so for clients including Johnson & Johnsons K-Y lubricants, SmithKline Beechams Havrix, Philip Morris Benson & Hedges, and Absolut vodkawhich had a presence at 15 Pride events simultaneously.
Whos On the Corporate Float, How to Carry Everything?
Logistics can be a challenge at Prides. Since Seitz was doing massive sampling across the 3-mile-long NYC parade route, he needed to drag along thousands of cans of soda, ice, and bead necklaces, all which didnt fit on the float. So he rented an additional truck that needed decorating too.
And not all companies use employees on the floats, especially in cities where they have no offices. Seitz sometimes hires models, other times hell give a donation to a local gay athletic team to have them help, further supporting the community.
Still, more companies focus on print advertising, which is simpler than participating in parades. Pride is not a place for everybody, explains Seitz.
But consumption in the overall carbonated soft drink market is flat, so the time may be right for soft drink marketers to take a gulp of the gay market. And munch on this: PepsiCos beverage and salty snacks businesses are major untapped ad categories, with brands including Frito-Lay, Tropicana, Quaker, Gatorade, Doritos, Cheetos, Tostitos, SunChips, Mountain Dew, Sierra Mist, Slice, Aquafina, Lipton, and SoBe.
Will Pepsi and its brands become the choice of a New Gay Generation?
Commercial Closet column covers gay issues in advertising, marketing and media. It is part of the non-profit project tracking 85 years of gay images in advertising worldwide. Its 1700+ image archive is at CommercialCloset.org.
...however, i am not going to type that out every time i post--we're all adults....
...i haven't told anyone to do more than to read the same posts i read..and please everyone...DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS!!!!
as far as that being about the only kind of a "confirmation" you can get about this whole thing right now...here on this bb asking anonymous posters......
geez, i just told him to read what we've all already read (which if he had, he wouldn't of had to ask the question). what kind of "proof" should i expect to find here??--somebody else's post?? we are all supposed to be adults?? believe anything or not--it's up to you--it's a POST on a bulletin board....
these people are nice enough to post the results of their own work (dd). NOBODY is "telling" anybody to believe anything.
i AM telling anyone to do some of their own 'reading' of someone else's work. seems that's alot easier than the work, and it's the least anyone has to do--READ.
thank all of you who have posted some interesting (to me) dd. i very much appreciate it...and i draw my own conclusions. what we all have to do.
there is no gospel here at allstocks....
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
NO I don't think so. Just because you or I believe what BB or Deb's Wife says doesn't mean everyone should. Thjere has been nothing more then a suposed email and thats not confirmation. If you want to tell him to do more DD or find out for yourself because we have then thats fine but why should anyone in here say fact from someones post.The last few pages hasn't answered anything but the hope that its true and that you should research for yourself for proof.
Ric
thanks for your dd..it's appreciated..
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
My doubts of QBID are not with me anymore.
I got what I wanted to hear. Just
wish I could see it for myself.
Did you by any chance find out if there were any advertisers? If not, could you?
Thanks for the verification. It's good enough for me!
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
He said you couldn't see anything on the screen because it was a pay channel, but you could read what was on.
Thanks. Maybe we should offer to pay for one months subscription if they'll let us know from time to time what's on.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Gator, cousin's have satellite..neighbor across street has RCN. Sounds good to me.
I'd pitch in $7.95 for a month.
I'd be willing to pay for some of it you you get it set up and have a paypal account for me to send it to. If we get 8 people to give a buck we'd have it.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
I'd be willing to pay for some of it you you get it set up and have a paypal account for me to send it to. If we get 8 people to give a buck we'd have it.
Calling Barb and Billy right now...
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Done with my phone call. Billy has even offered to pay the neighbor the $7.95 fo a
subscription, take a video camera and digital camera over there, whatever you all need for him to do. He said he is even getting excited now! QTN logo was showing in the lower far right corner along with "The Gay Review." And at the end of our first conversation yesterday when he was getting ready to go over to the neighbors house , his response was "Now, this isn't a joke, is it?" When I called him back, he stated "you weren't joking, were you. There really is a queer channel here."
I am to call him back tomorrow night. I am in CST and they are 2 hours behind us. So if I don't get cyber beaten up too bad within the next 24 hours, I will let you know what he is doing or done tomorrow night.
Good luck all!
Robin...(the good seed)
Cool! Thanks for doing this for us! You guys are awesome!
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
naaahhhhhhhh....Thank you Whiz for having
your trust we need in here.
Robin
And you too Gator!!
I posted the following on Craig's List in SanFran:
Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Hi.
I know- weird request- but Qtv, the new gay & lesbian tv network, insists that they are broadcasting on RCN cable channel 250 or 255 (mixed reports).
The investors in this new network's stock (it's a penny stock), me being one of them, are trying to confirm that this is actually happening. I personally only know people in SanFran with Direct TV, but QTV is only on RCN.
So, if you have RCN, could you flip to those two channels, 250 and 255, and let me know what you see? I would really appreciate it!!!
Thanks =)
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--> RESPONSE #1: (notice the email addy @RCN.com)
-----Original Message-----
From: steve ********* [mailto:*****@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:09 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: I see QTV on 255 and pay per view on 250
on RCN
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--> RESPONSE TO MY CRAIGS LIST POSTING #2:
-----Original Message-----
From: *********@aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Right now on channel 255 its something with an actress know as Stockard Channing it looks like an old sitcm from the early 80's, but the channel doesnt even play, it's like there playing a worn tape and it is sorta scrambled but not and on channel 250 it is the on demand selection. Hope this helps you out.
Regards,
Jordan
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--> RESPONSE #3 (note: i reposted my ad on Craigs List and included my real email addy so people know I'm for real, with a slightly pleading tone to the post)
-----Original Message-----
From: Zack ***** [mailto:******@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:01 PM
To: ppatrice@mywebsitedotcom
Subject: QTV & RCN
Hi Paula,
I just saw your ad on craigslist.
I just checked and QTV is on Channel 255 through RCN right now. "The
Stylists" is the program, however it is not pushing through any audio,
only video.
Hope this helps - I'm sure you've gotten plenty of responses.
Take care,
Zack
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--> RESPONSE #4 (ANOTHER FROM @RCN.COM)
From: Rex ***** [mailto:****@rcn.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:41 PM
To: ppatrice@my website.com (dont want spam)
Subject: RCN 250,255? ....here ya' go
this viewing was on sunday 9-26, at 4:33 PM california time:
255(QTN) "just friends" ------NO SOUND!
250 you get the RCN "video on demand" menu (it was pretty exciting!)
aside from these 2 channels, I've enjoyed RCN pretty much.
Rex
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...love that two of these responses came from @RCN email addresses.
oh- and there was one inquiry from a Q stockholder asking if I could let her know what my responses were. i sent here the link to this site.
and i got a few responses that were gibberish. oh well.
two "no sound" responses are reassuring, since a "new" signal is often just video/no audio. (forget who confirmed that in an earlier post)
~BB
[edit: compromised someone's personal info]
[This message has been edited by betting babe (edited September 27, 2004).]
too much information. oh no--how do we handle that??
these are just confirmations of Q airing in SanFran...
~BB
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
like you said before--it could be on, but if they're not seeing it themselves.....
wouldn't want to not be sooo correct
this could all be innuendo and speculation..
sorry, just feeling verrry sarcastic
(not with you)...
but thank you for all your work, it is appreciated...
...that didn't respond til i pleaded with four new posts on craigs list to please help us by turning on their tvs...
we should all take it fwiw.
~BB
Thanks Deg's wife and Betting Babe for searching for SF viewers.
Thanks again King for reposting the satelite website.
Thanks 1BigTip's for the list of QBID's recent accomplishments.
Could a reasonable person still question the validity of QTV N?
..........................only if it was profitable to do so.
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
My doubts of QBID are not with me anymore.
I got what I wanted to hear. Just
wish I could see it for myself.
I ALSO AM RELIEVED. I KNOW THAT WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND GREAT DD.
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DIANA
Sounds like our Q is getting out there...moving along slowly, but making progress nonetheless.
Wish you all a great trading day.
And GOOD MORNING Q-BIDDERS!
Good luck everyone.
Go QBID...let's see some green this morning.
gotta' go meet the inspector for the final Plumbing inspection then the final CO on Thursday. Keepin' my fingers crossed.
Group (((HUG))) to all my Q bid buddies.
Good day all.
NCVM
Jet-powered surfboards! Could be the next hot new fad. PR out.
Looks like fun!
P.S. Sunny you have mail
Come on Winsum and Crosseyed...you both know they would be a hoot!
Okay, back to QBID...still holding at 0044.
Crosseyed...have it and have responded!
[This message has been edited by sunny (edited September 27, 2004).]
[This message has been edited by kamikaze (edited September 27, 2004).]
SUMMARY:
ok, i have enought to reassure me that there is a signal and a channel 255 in the SanFran area. That people are gtting video but no audio, which (a guess) is because it's a paid subscription channel, and that the
signal has continually improved over the past few days.
Please note: I posted this on Craigs List before I posted it on the boards, to avoid as much tampering with my results as possible ;-)
~BB
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I posted the following on Craig's List in SanFran:
Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Hi.
I know- weird request- but Qtv, the new gay & lesbian tv network, insists that they are broadcasting on RCN cable channel 250 or 255 (mixed reports).
The investors in this new network's stock (it's a penny stock), me being one of them, are trying to confirm that this is actually happening.
So, if you have RCN, could you flip to those two channels, 250 and 255, and let me know what you see? I would really appreciate it!!!
Thanks =)
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--> RESPONSE #1: (NOTICE THE EMAIL ADDY @RCN.COM)
-----Original Message-----
From: steve ********* [mailto:*****@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:09 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: I see QTV on 255 and pay per view on 250
on RCN
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--> RESPONSE #2:
-----Original Message-----
From: *********@aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: anon-43483903@craigslist.org
Subject: Do you have RCN Cable? What's on Channel 250/255?
Right now on channel 255 its something with an actress know as Stockard Channing it looks like an old sitcm from the early 80's, but the channel doesnt even play, it's like there playing a worn tape and it is
sorta scrambled but not and on channel 250 it is the on demand selection. Hope this helps you out.
Regards,
Jordan
--------------------------
--> RESPONSE #3 (note: i reposted my ad on Craigs List and included my real email addy so people know I'm for real)
-----Original Message-----
From: Zack ***** [mailto:******@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:01 PM
To: ppatrice@mywebsitedotcom
Subject: QTV & RCN
Hi Paula,
I just saw your ad on craigslist.
I just checked and QTV is on Channel 255 through RCN right now. "The
Stylists" is the program, however it is not pushing through any audio,
only video.
Hope this helps - I'm sure you've gotten plenty of responses.
Take care,
Zack
---------------------------
--> RESPONSE #4 (ANOTHER FROM @RCN.COM)
From: Rex ***** [mailto:****@rcn.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:41 PM
To: ppatrice@my website.com
Subject: RCN 250,255? ....here ya' go
this viewing was on sunday 9-26, at 4:33 PM california time:
255(QTN) "just friends" ------NO SOUND!
250 you get the RCN "video on demand" menu (it was pretty exciting!)
aside from these 2 channels, I've enjoyed RCN pretty much.
Rex
--------------------------------
--> RESPONSE #5 (NOTICE THE SIGNAL WAS BAD, THEN IT BECAME "GREAT"
From: Elena ****** [mailto:******@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:19 AM
To: ppatrice@my website .com
Subject: DO YOU HAVE RCN CABLE? WHAT'S ON CHANNEL 255? (sorry, still need help)
Hi, how are you? I live in Daly City, Ca. right on the San Francisco border. I have RCN, Channel 250 is blank. Channel 255 is broadcasting and appears to be the Q-Channel. You should know that this is a
really crappy channel. Music videos were airing tonight, great picture, but no sound. The other day there was some craft/horticulture program on and it kept cutting out, freezing up, sound but no picture
throughout. It was very annoying. Get your money back. I don't think this one is going to take off.Good luck....EMJ
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~BB
--> RESPONSE #5 (NOTICE THE SIGNAL WAS BAD, THEN IT BECAME "GREAT"
From: Elena ****** [mailto:******@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:19 AM
To: ppatrice@my website .com
Subject: DO YOU HAVE RCN CABLE? WHAT'S ON CHANNEL 255? (sorry, still need help)
Hi, how are you? I live in Daly City, Ca. right on the San Francisco border. I have RCN, Channel 250 is blank. Channel 255 is broadcasting and appears to be the Q-Channel. You should know that this is a
really crappy channel. Music videos were airing tonight, great picture, but no sound. The other day there was some craft/horticulture program on and it kept cutting out, freezing up, sound but no picture
throughout. It was very annoying. Get your money back. I don't think this one is going to take off.Good luck....EMJ
...........................................................
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whizknock
posted by CatDaddy, and From IHub...
Posted by: Spring Rain
In reply to: charltuna who wrote msg# 26513 Date:9/27/2004 10:51:28 AM
Post #of 26539
Charltuna,
I don't know why you are insisting that there has been no launch in San Francisco. I'm sorry, buy your source is mistaken. My friend in SF watched the Q on Friday night on channel 255. It is not scrambled. He videotaped six hours of Q programming for me, and also took the trouble to copy out a portion of the broadcast schedule for me.
I will have time this morning to see at least part of the tape, and I will report about it. Meanwhile here is the Q broadcast schedule he gave me:
The Stylists - Fashion stylists - 5:30 AM
Q Week In Review - 6:00 AM
Just Friends - A Boston woman leaves husband and moves to LA - 6:30 AM
Concrete Jungle - Container gardening for urban dwellers -7:00 AM
Odysseys & Ovations - Cambridge, Mass. Visits with artists, writers, & doctors - 7:30 AM
Babes On Broadway - Mickey Rooney, Judy Garland - Talented youngsters, unable to crash broadway, stage their own show - 8:00 AM
Got 2B There - (No information) - 10:00 AM
Jack E. Jett - (No information) - 11:30 AM
Apart From Hugh - David Marwin, Steve Arnold (1994) - A gay man plans a first anniversary celebration with his boyfriend, unaware that his partner has misgivings about the relationship. - Noon
1987 Gay Review - A recap of the year (Entertainment & Magazine Shows) 1:30 PM
Q The Music - New and classic video releases - 2:30 PM
The Map Of Sex And Love - Bernard Chow, Victor Ma (2001) - Gay themed love story about a filmmaker shooting a documentary in Honk Kong, where he becomes involved with a dancer choreographer - 3:00 PM
The Stylisis - Fashion stylisis - 3:30 PM
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posted by rickm Today at 09:59:26
this is an email i received form RCN after asking about programming....
Hello Everyone!
Q Television Network(QTN) is available in San Francisco on Digital Vision on channel 255 as a free preview. Beginning October 1st, Q Television will become a premium service similar to HBO where customers pay a monthly fee for access to content.
The monthly rate will be $7.95 .
On October 1st, the free preview will end. If a subscriber wants to continue viewing Q Television, they must call and order it.
Thank You
Barbara Bunk
Customer Service
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a note: both these posters were also new to this board. i found it cuz they were reposting my posts...
i think it shows that word is spreading....
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
no problem. i actually found a new Q Board today, and I'm pinching this info to share:
Like I said BB, good work. To me it appears as if we've settled into a trading range as though most shareholders now are investors or swingtraders. I believe we should get moves from subscription numbers. I will be very happy with an intial count of 20,000 or more.
Couldn't help but notice your post on WNMI. Are you still holding that. I let it go for a loss just before they pulled the rug out from under everyone.
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whizknock
PASSED PLUMBING! Going to be a great week.
I can feel the pressure building.
side note on that- well, i'll go post the side note in the right topic thread...
~BB
Would red make you feel better?
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
We're up 3/10000 of a penny.. lets party!
Odd, I'm seeing 5/100ths of a penny, 11.63%. You need to find another place to get your quote dude.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
Go QBID!!!!!
No... Not Q's from Star Trek...
BBabe, GOOD DD WORK!!! Thank you! I appreciated seeing those postings!
Everyone else... stay calm, cool and collective! Q is doing better today then it was yesterday!
I just want to thank everyone, 1bigtip, bbetingbabe, sunny, suzannie, and all others who work durring the day and night to provide an unknown amount of wealth for us! THANKS!
-John-
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whizknock
Thanks
My email to Jim Downing:
"
Mr. Downing,
I am a shareholder in Q Television Network and RCN. RCN has begun carrying
Q Television Network on channel 255 in the San Francisco market. This
channel is to be a pay channel, but at this time is not scrambled.
However, since I live in Tampa, Florida, I cannot view the channel for
myself. I have seen many reports that viewers in San Francisco can see Q
Television on channel 255, but there is no audio. Is this being done as a
teaser or is there a problem with the transmission? I have contacted Q
Television directly, but have not received a response as yet. Any
information that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
***** *******"
Here is his response:
"Mr. *******
QTV is in "free preview" mode for the rest of the month and then will go to
monthly pay status ($7.95 per month for 24/7 programming) starting on
Friday.
Hope this helps.
Jim Downing
RCN"
I'm not sure this addresses the 'no audio' question or not. I think that's what he is implying. Any thoughts?
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Hi all. I emailed Jim Downing @ RCN (investor relations) in an attempt to clarify the video/no audio situation. Here's what I have.My email to Jim Downing:
"
Mr. Downing,I am a shareholder in Q Television Network and RCN. RCN has begun carrying
Q Television Network on channel 255 in the San Francisco market. This
channel is to be a pay channel, but at this time is not scrambled.However, since I live in Tampa, Florida, I cannot view the channel for
myself. I have seen many reports that viewers in San Francisco can see Q
Television on channel 255, but there is no audio. Is this being done as a
teaser or is there a problem with the transmission? I have contacted Q
Television directly, but have not received a response as yet. Any
information that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.Sincerely,
***** *******"
Here is his response:
"Mr. *******
QTV is in "free preview" mode for the rest of the month and then will go to
monthly pay status ($7.95 per month for 24/7 programming) starting on
Friday.Hope this helps.
Jim Downing
RCN"I'm not sure this addresses the 'no audio' question or not. I think that's what he is implying. Any thoughts?
My comments are these:
1. He did NOT address the no sound issue. In fact, this sounds to me like a "canned" response.
2. Every free preview I've ever seen has had both audio and video as well as information on how to subscribe.
3. I think we still have signal problems, which greatly concerns me. I don't know how the signal get's to the uplink but from that point to an established cable company I'd think things should be routine. So perhaps if there is a problem it's in getting the signal to the uplink site.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
Brick by Brick my friends, Brick By Brick.
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
Just like Rome.Brick by Brick my friends, Brick By Brick.
[This message has been edited by valves (edited September 27, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
from all info firestone seems to be a very professional and experianced company. i'm sure they will get everything right quickly. i mentioned this last week comcast had trouble with the hallmark channel last week, audio but no video. hallmark is new on comcast in my area but not new to cable
i know the press release said "the firestone family". does anyone know if that is the firestone tire and rubber family? i think firestone tire is now part of brigestone tire. maybe this is part of a new family focus. thanks.
Since all of RCN's designated cities will begin receiving QTV N on Friday, perhaps RCN's intent is to wait until then to fully launch all cities at the same time with an ad blitz.
As an investor, I prefer a big campaign to piecemeal ads. Unless, daily PR's state that ___ city was added to the growing list ..........increasing the number of subcribers to.......
I think I could like both!
Sunny, any weather probems in your area?
QBID is holding steady today...LOL
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Maybe the guy in San Fran that is watching Q is deaf?
Posted by: Spring Rain
In reply to: None Date:9/27/2004 2:57:45 PM
Post #of 26591
I watched the Q! Here's my report:
Today I watched the 6 hours of QTN that my friend videotaped for me last Friday night/Saturday morning on RCN's channel 255 in San Francisco. The good news is that we are most definitely on the air. The bad news is that during those 6 hours the network was suffering severe technical difficulties with both the audio and video. I do not know if this was just a temporary problem that has since been fixed. As RCN is not available in my neighborhood, this videotape is all I have to go on.
The audio was choppy, consisting of periods of perfect sound, periods when the sound cut in and out, periods of static, and then for most of the tape, no sound at all. This was not a problem with the tape. My friend noticed the problems on the live broadcast as he recorded it.
The video picture quality was very good, but the picture frequently froze, creating a choppy series of still pictures. Viewing was thus very difficult. Obviously these problems will have to be fixed before Q is offered to subscribers. For all I know, they have already fixed the problem since last Friday.
Here's what I saw:
"Q NewsWeek In Review" Smart looking newscast format. Well dressed, good looking female newscaster. News Director Elazibeth MacDonald. Exec Producer Frank Olsen. Sorry, wasn't able to hear the stories.
"Just Friends" with Stockard Channing. Written by George Bloom. According to the schedule it is about a woman who leaves her husband and moves to LA.
Commercials following "Just Friends": United Negro College Fund, anti-smoking commercial from www.everydaychoices.org, and noattacks.org
Music video titled, "Little Dear"
Feature: "Sweeny Todd" the Broadway musical by Stephen Sondheim with Angela Lansbury. I've seen this before, and it's fabulous. If you haven't seen it, you should.
"Q On The Move" I was able to make out that each week they will visit a different US city. This week was apparently LA, because there was an interview with a star from "Queer As Folk". The interview included footage of him working out at a gym. Looked like a slick, professional format, but again the technical problems made it impossible for me to judge.
"I Will, I Do, We Did" Q's original documentary about gay weddings in San Francisco. I very much want to see this, and it was frustrating that there was no sound and mostly only choppy still frames of the video. However the couples look wonderful people I would definitely like to hear about. There seemed to be 5 female couples and 4 male couples. Chapter titles include, "Meet The Couples", "Why Marriage?", "This Day I Thee Wed", "California Superior Court Issues An Injunction", "What If Your Marriage Is Revoked?", and "Final Thoughts".
Anti-smoking commercial
Logo: "Q is out to become the preferred Gay and Lesbian television network of choice for the 21st century."
Logo: Coming soon to cable AND SATELLITE operators and audiences all over America" (capitalization mine)
Feature: "Kiss My Cleats" Covers the Gay Games V. Format looked smart as far as I was able to tell.
"Odysseys & Ovations" Travel and the arts. Interesting looking people and places. Schedule says "visits with artists, writers and doctors".
Commercials: fairhousinglaw.org, firewise.org, uncf. org, registerandvote.org, skincancer.org
"Style" Looked interesting. Interviews with fashion stylists. I believe the schedule titled this "The Stylists"
Tape ends
quote:
Originally posted by Poot Poot:
From IHUB board
Posted by: Spring Rain
In reply to: None Date:9/27/2004 2:57:45 PM
Post #of 26591I watched the Q! Here's my report:
Today I watched the 6 hours of QTN that my friend videotaped for me last Friday night/Saturday morning on RCN's channel 255 in San Francisco. The good news is that we are most definitely on the air. The bad news is that during those 6 hours the network was suffering severe technical difficulties with both the audio and video. I do not know if this was just a temporary problem that has since been fixed. As RCN is not available in my neighborhood, this videotape is all I have to go on.
The audio was choppy, consisting of periods of perfect sound, periods when the sound cut in and out, periods of static, and then for most of the tape, no sound at all. This was not a problem with the tape. My friend noticed the problems on the live broadcast as he recorded it.
The video picture quality was very good, but the picture frequently froze, creating a choppy series of still pictures. Viewing was thus very difficult. Obviously these problems will have to be fixed before Q is offered to subscribers. For all I know, they have already fixed the problem since last Friday.
The frozen picture and choppys series of stil pictures sounds like poor signal reception for a digital channel. I get that sometimes on Dish Network (usually very briefly). One time I got it so much I had to re-align the dish. In fact, it sounds a lot like what I was getting on C-Band in the initial test.
The commercials sound like public service announcements. Well, maybe the REAL commercials will come once we are "officially" launched in all RCN markets and the signal problem is resolved.
Thanks for the info.
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Seriously...
Network Broadcast Operations are a CONTINUING situation. Understand that sometimes the different communication equipment, re-digitalization equipment, ect may be having problems turning the signal from analog to digital, beamed to the satellite, back down to the station, redigitalizied and then beamed to homes. It may sound simple but there are A LOT of things that can get in the way... I wish we had some Video Technicians or Video Production Managers on this board.
We are making steady progress, again, Q-Tv has NEVER made it this far...
-John-
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
It amazes me how much opinion and conjecture poster on here go through on here instead of just getting to the source. I had been asking for weeks tio find someone in San Fran that actually had the programming so we could evaluate what was happening.. I was chastized for this.. now finally we have some news from an actual viewer, not all good, and instead on calling RCN or QTV to get answers, we all want to be experts and place our own opinion here. Why don't you just get someone to call the cable company? Would prevent several more days of this agony..
Great idea. Why don't you do it an report back to us.
As for me, I can't make long distance calls here from work of a personal nature.
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There will not be any major advertisers untill they are launched across the nation. those spots are paid for and it would not make sence to pay for advertising that is only going out to a freevu market.
so maybe you should read all the messages before you start typing. i seen the question asked. why cant you?
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
It amazes me how much opinion and conjecture poster on here go through on here instead of just getting to the source. I had been asking for weeks tio find someone in San Fran that actually had the programming so we could evaluate what was happening.. I was chastized for this.. now finally we have some news from an actual viewer, not all good, and instead on calling RCN or QTV to get answers, we all want to be experts and place our own opinion here. Why don't you just get someone to call the cable company? Would prevent several more days of this agony..
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
It amazes me how much opinion and conjecture poster on here go through on here instead of just getting to the source. I had been asking for weeks tio find someone in San Fran that actually had the programming so we could evaluate what was happening.. I was chastized for this.. now finally we have some news from an actual viewer, not all good, and instead on calling RCN or QTV to get answers, we all want to be experts and place our own opinion here. Why don't you just get someone to call the cable company? Would prevent several more days of this agony..
Do you need the phone number? let me know and I will give it to you.
Sometimes stuff is just simple as it seems!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
heard a senetor today that has been trying to change everything for 6 yrs. whole new system sounded great thought i'd pass it on. get rid of all current taxes, everything federal and go to a sales type federal tax on everything. everything we buy today has companies taxes priced in it figures to around 25% of the cost of each item. mob, drug dealers, the underworld, illegals pay nothing to the feds. by a 22% sales tax on everything sold both private & corperate you get everyone paying the same plus a basic living cost rebate the first of each yr. never report income of any kind, never file tax forms, fair to every income level and with rebate poverty levels will get most back. goods & services bought will be reduced because companies pay the same way, not income but on each item they buy to build or perform services. no rich folk loopholes or corporate loopholes...no capital gains taxes... anyway hope my posting this doesn't piss anyone off if it does...i'm sorry.
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quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
hehe
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Firefly!
I just try to keep my eye on the Big Picture.
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a hard worker in mexico (personal not corporate, as businesses are taxed on income) gets to keep their pay, and doesnt have to deal with an inneficient annual filing of income tax. if you are going to buy other than basic food items and some medicine you pay your tax at the cash register. prices on almost all taxed items are already included in the sticker price, and not added on at the cash register. simple and no end of year surprises.
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
side note...hope it doesn't offend but it has been discussed here a few times...taxesheard a senetor today that has been trying to change everything for 6 yrs. whole new system sounded great thought i'd pass it on. get rid of all current taxes, everything federal and go to a sales type federal tax on everything. everything we buy today has companies taxes priced in it figures to around 25% of the cost of each item. mob, drug dealers, the underworld, illegals pay nothing to the feds. by a 22% sales tax on everything sold both private & corperate you get everyone paying the same plus a basic living cost rebate the first of each yr. never report income of any kind, never file tax forms, fair to every income level and with rebate poverty levels will get most back. goods & services bought will be reduced because companies pay the same way, not income but on each item they buy to build or perform services. no rich folk loopholes or corporate loopholes...no capital gains taxes... anyway hope my posting this doesn't piss anyone off if it does...i'm sorry.
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What about seniors on a fixed income who now buy their prescriptions first and food and other necessities with what is left over
Would detergent, shampoo and toothpaste be almost 1/4 more for them too?
The number of elderly citizens in this country has grown and continues to increase each year.
Most of these people do not own a vacation home. On fixed incomes, many have already lost their homes because of high property taxes and home insurance rates.
I don't like paying taxes, but shifting the tax burden to those who are being pushed into poverty in their remaining days seems too drastic.
Perhaps the senator has some exemptions for them in his plan.
I'm not bashing the plan--the simpler the better. This country has many problems that need to be addressed--all of these are complex. Why not start with taxes?
As for the drugs dealers, taxing their income sounds great, but first, let's force them out of business. .....but that's a whole new subject.
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Hopefully, we will have our QBID funds to make a difference for us!
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Suz---well said.
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
I hate to say it but, I'm worried about U4. He has not posted for about 5 days. I wonder if the hurricans got him?
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Dont worry he will float to the surface again. lol
You don't think being green has anything to do with it?
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First of all, the tax would be in the 25%-35% range on consumption items,(and thats a conservative range). That means when you go to buy a 30,000 car, you would have to pay taxes in a range of $7500-$10500. If you buy a $1500 TV, you pay $375-575 straight to the govt. You would have no deductions whatosever.
Since you guys are investors, let me ask you, what could you be doing with $7875-11075? You could be investing it, possibly making more money for yourself. But with the flat tax, that money would go straight to the govt(car tax would be spread over the years, maybe) and that money that you wanted to invest is gone. That is what the poor and middle class will face; investing money would be gone or many people would have to spend less money, which would kill the all of the markets or kill the economy. Who wants to lead a limited lifestyle? It would serious limit the lifestyle of the poor and middle class.
On the other hand, the rich completely benefit from the tax and they would live even a better lifestyle.
If you didnt know, the Federal Tax Code is set up to "steal from the rich and give to the poor" by using phaseouts. The Federal Tax Code also provides many deductions and credits that really help the poor and middle class and sometimes the rich, so people can spend money and put money into investments to make more money.
Under a flat tax, you would receive none these deductions or credits and if you spent enough, you would probably pay more money to the govt with a flat tax because there are no deductions. It discourages spending, and that itself would send America's economy down to a lower grade.
You may think that the current Federal Tax Code is vicious and complicated, but it is complicated because they have to figure out ways to reduce your taxes so you can spend more and invest more, and thats what keeps this economy on top of the rest.
If the flat tax ever gets enacted, which it wont, America would be in for a shocking discovery.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Ok, I got of my soap box,,how does this apply to QTVN?
I just read that someone though the flat tax was a good idea, but it is a very limiting and economy discouraging tax.
Anyway, when QBID start getting subs, this thing will pop and Im ready for it.
The market loves first movers, suprises and the unexpected and a gay channel is a first mover, a suprise(to unknowing investors) and an unexpected event. If this channel gets national attention, I dont care what the O/S is, it will pop. Thats my input.
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
sorry last post by me on this...you already pay 25% in that companies income tax for everthing you buy today. its something i use in figuring the cost of every job my company does and the new tax would be 22% which is 3% less then we now pay on everything and no loopholes. every single job i bid today has 25% figured for taxes
Sorry, but thats ridiculous. First of all, 22% might be the start, but even all economist and anaylsts say that it would eventually have to put into the high 20s and 30s.
Second of all, say you make 40,000. The income tax would take, lets say for argument sake, 27%. But before the tax is calucalted you get the luxury of subtracting your adjustments to taxable income, itemized deductions or your standard deduction and your exemption. Ajustments to gross income would be maybe 2000, standard deduction 5000, and your exemption would be 3000 which equals $30,000. So now you are taxed on 30,000 at 27%, which is $8100 considering no tax credits. But the trick is that you dont have to pay the govt until NEXT YEAR, so you can spend that money or invest it to make more money, or keep saving some until April 15. In other words, you have the freedom to what you want to do with your money.
With the flat tax,you would have to pay tax on everything you spend at that moment in time, so you would be completely limited as to what you would do with your money. Say I wanted to spend 30,000 of my 40,000 of income, even with a conservative flat tax rate(25%)I would have to pay basically the same amount, only the catch is its UPFRONT so that money that I could have spent on a new TV or that money that I could have made 100% on in the stock market is gone and you are left with just change that you will have to save in order to have net worth.
Trust me, you dont want the flat tax.
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The flat tax is about limitations and that is completely UnAmerican.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
common guys. please do this somewhere else. thanks
Nobody likes talking about taxes. LOL.
quote:
Originally posted by stk2302:
Nobody likes talking about taxes. LOL.
Actually, nobody likes to wade through unrelated rambling, while trying to find one lousy crumb of DD on the stock for which the thread is named.
Take it elsewhere.
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Actually, nobody likes to wade through unrelated rambling, while trying to find one lousy crumb of DD on the stock for which the thread is named.Take it elsewhere.
quote:
Originally posted by stk2302:
Dam, this guy needs to be pushing a cart on the street or something because he quailies as a pure Bum.
But why bother replying to, we all know who the good people are. So sad there are people in the world like him.
Oh well.
He just called me...here is what is happening (I provided his contact info for the non-believers...please call to confirm for yourselves)
The Q Television Network is broadcasting their programming on channel 255 in San Francisco.
Approximately 30 minutes ago, Downing sent an email to RCN Customer Service bringing them all up to speed on the new Channel.
He has notified the department responsible for updating the web site listing Channel 255 (The Q Television Network) He said that it will be updated over the weekend...possibly sooner. Here is the link...click on Channel line up changes:San Francisco (highlighted in red, above the channel line up)
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
He also said that all of the other markets (Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Washington, D.C.) will be broadcasting the Q Television channel starting next Friday (Oct 1). At this point there is nothing preventing the launch to the other markets on Oct.1...it's a go.
I asked if the other markets will come on seperately or at the same time. He said all of the market will launch the channel at the same time (Friday)
He said that SF was chosen because the Q is on the west coast.
Finally, He said that one week following next Fridays launch...The Q and RCN will promote the channel in a joint media campaigne to bring on new subscribers.
Again...please call the following number to varify for yourselves that the info is correct.
Good luck folks
Jim Downing
Investor and Public Relations
RCN Corporation
105 Carnegie Center
Princeton, NJ 08540
(609) 734-3718
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
Read the 6th paragraph down. Could it be Q?
http://www.gay.com/entertainment/news/?sernum=853
"......not LOGO, the other new gay network"
Sounds like our Q to me! Wasn't he on a morning show a week or two ago showing his QBID tatoo?
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"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Check this OUT if you have not already.
Earth_Man
Just board this morning. My Vacation is about to end. I FOUND THIS too.
Earth_Man
Go Q!
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
Information from RCN 9/24/2004 3:22:58 PM
Posted By: Nobull101 Msg# 58088 of 58304
Following the release of the last PR I called Jim Downing to confirm that QTV was broadcasting in SF on channel 255. I left a message in his voice mail to call me back.He just called me...here is what is happening (I provided his contact info for the non-believers...please call to confirm for yourselves)
The Q Television Network is broadcasting their programming on channel 255 in San Francisco.
Approximately 30 minutes ago, Downing sent an email to RCN Customer Service bringing them all up to speed on the new Channel.
He has notified the department responsible for updating the web site listing Channel 255 (The Q Television Network) He said that it will be updated over the weekend...possibly sooner. Here is the link...click on Channel line up changes:San Francisco (highlighted in red, above the channel line up)
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10He also said that all of the other markets (Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Washington, D.C.) will be broadcasting the Q Television channel starting next Friday (Oct 1). At this point there is nothing preventing the launch to the other markets on Oct.1...it's a go.
I asked if the other markets will come on seperately or at the same time. He said all of the market will launch the channel at the same time (Friday)
He said that SF was chosen because the Q is on the west coast.
Finally, He said that one week following next Fridays launch...The Q and RCN will promote the channel in a joint media campaigne to bring on new subscribers.
Again...please call the following number to varify for yourselves that the info is correct.
Good luck folks
Jim Downing
Investor and Public Relations
RCN Corporation
105 Carnegie Center
Princeton, NJ 08540
(609) 734-3718
Good luck All.
Lil
HERE IS MY ANSWER. I MAILED THE CHECK TODAY AND ALSO E-MAILED THIS LETTER TO FRANK AND STEVE. I HOPE THIS WILL HELP QBID. THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT DD FOLKS. KEEP IT COMING. THAT COMMERCIAL "I LOVE THIS WOMAN" FLOATS THRU MY PEA BRAIN AND SAY'S "I LOVE QBID". ON A REGULAR. THAT IS SCAREY TOO. MUST REMEMBER TO STAY ON THE MEDS AND OFF SKIDDLES. LOL
9/28/2004 6:44:02 AM US Eastern Standard Time
From: Reality Inc 21
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To: weolson4@hotmail.com, SDGrunberg@aol.com.
CC:
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Sent on:
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Internet Address Card Attached
Dear Frank and Steve,
First of all I would like to thank you for keeping your promises to me and putting Q Telivision Network on the air. I have always believed in the potential although as you know I have not always agreed upon your methods. Nor have you always liked mine, but the reality of it all is we all have the success of Q Telivision Network as a top priority.
I have been thinking--non stop (I know this can be a dangerous) lol. How can I help the consumer base of Q Telivision Network? I came up with this.......I have mailed you a check for $95.40. One year subscription to Q Telivision Channel. As you know I am not in the area of RCN nor in the other broadcasting area's. Indiana is SOL. Nothing new there. lol... Please use this to either give 4 people 3 free months of viewing or 6 people 2 free months. I trust you will use it in the best interest to promote the Q Telivision Network. I will continue to send you $94.50 per month for the next 12 months to help with the promotion of QBID. If it comes to my area of course I will be the 1st to order it. This is my way of helping a company that I own a considerable piece of and also one that I believe in the potential. If the pps of QBID rises considerably over the next 6 month as I feel that it will--I will send $94.40 every 2 weeks.
I know you both have been very busy working hard to make QBID a success. I want you to know that hundreds of share holders are 100% behind QBID and do appreciate the work that you have done. Thank you from the ALLSTOCKS Stock Message Boards for not giving up to the pressures of adversity. You will be greatly rewarded and remembered for your efforts.
If I can help in any other ways to promote QBID please let me know. I would be willing address envelopes or anything that would help you. Good luck and thanks again for all your hard work.
Diana xxxxxxxx
http://www.tradetrek.com/NN/default.asp?symbol=QBID
THE PR'S SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
http://www2.barchart.com/news.asp?sym=QBID
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DIANA
Lil
That is a great idea and I would also do the same! Keep us posted to the results of that decision.
Thanks and thanks for being part of the growing QBID team.
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
that post has lost a bit of credibility seeings how they never updated the web page. but i still believe they are broad casting based on the reports
Check again dude, they're listed on RCN's site now.
-R
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Check again dude, they're listed on RCN's site now.-R
You beat me to it!
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
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quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Check again dude, they're listed on RCN's site now.-R
Sure enough!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome NEWS!!!! USAF or whatever your name is how about those apples!!!!
200K @ .0046
Cha Ching!!!
quote:
Originally posted by 21jason21:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RobinO:
[b]
Check again dude, they're listed on RCN's site now.-R
Sure enough!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome NEWS!!!! USAF or whatever your name is how about those apples!!!![/B][/QUOTE]
NEWSSSSSSSSSS-- We are Now listed with RCN Channel Line Up $$$$$$
Deg's wife
Put down the coffee bean!
-John-
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
PharmdmanPut down the coffee bean!
-John-
Hey JB!
I've been up since 4am... I'm already 6 coffees and 2 liters of Diet Pepsi into the day... I might actually blink again one day! .... although, I'm getting a helluva lot of work done around here!
all we had to do was... what was that whiz?
~BB
[edit: i kinda like that we're not limited to digital. it means anybody can see it, not just the Dtv subscribers.]
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but, it's only a website....lol
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Originally posted by King Crimson:
that's better'n your email responses bb...
but, it's only a website....lol
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
verrry sarcastic...<wink>....inside from the other nite confirmation issue....
chomp, chomp.....
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
YES!!!! WE HAVE AN RCN WEBSITE UPDATE!!!
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10all we had to do was... what was that whiz?
~BB[edit: i kinda like that we're not limited to digital. it means anybody can see it, not just the Dtv subscribers.]
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quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
you again....LOFL.................
on topic--glad to see you readin' before askin'..........
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Off topic: King Crimson, are you an Adrian Belew fan? On topic: Now we need a news release and (more importantly) subscriber statistics!
i found this in their PR's:
" The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico."
and this:
"We are very proud to announce that we have sponsors for any people who are housebound with AIDS. We are going to pay for their basic cable and provide the $7.95 per month subscription to Q Television Network at no charge."
"basic cable" usually does not include digital channels- just channels 1-13 etc. in my experience anyway...
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
not digital?? i thought it was supposed to be, might have something to do with the broadcast problems....
Q TELEVISION NETWORK CONFIRMS SOFT LAUNCH
Q Television Network continues its drive towards its public launch and will air on May 15, 2004 a test of its broadcast signal. This signal will be sent out in analog format and will be viewable to all C-band dish owners. After this test is concluded, network will revert to a digital scrambled signal as it continues towards its regular soft launch to cable, satellite and advertising concerns. Further information regarding satellite and transponder for viewing will be posted in the coming days
I emailed Jim Downing to ask if it was an oversight or if they were not broadcasting in digital. I will post reply when I receive it.
Firestone Communications, Inc., (www.firestoneinc.com) is a privately held media company based in Dallas-Ft. Worth, Texas. FCIs core business is the network origination and uplink of cable and broadcast neworks, ownership of the cable network, Sorpresa!, and complete commercial and television production services. Company executives have produced television programming for Univision, Telemundo, Turner Broadcasting, and many other clients. The companys facilities include over 43,000 square feet of offices, production studios, fully digital master control, Avid editing suites and a comprehensive tape library. .
notice "fully digital master"....
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Come on Qbid, the kids need a pool.
when Q states they are sending out a digitized, scrambled signal, i infer they mean to the CABLE OPERATORS. The satellite carries the signal to local cable companies (scrambled so that it isn't picked up by consumers along the way). the cable operators then DESCRAMBLE the signal and carry it via coaxial/fiber optic cable lines to paying subscribers. So, the method by which Q sends their signal has nothing to do with the method by which it is received at a consumer's tv. That's up to the cable company.
Ok- is that any clearer?
~BB
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in my limited experience, a "digital signal" is simply a method of carriage through the cable lines, whereas a telephone line takes an "analog signal" and converts it to a "digital signal".
even "basic cable subscribers" are hooked up to a cable which carries the digital signal.
wish i had my lingo better, but do you know what i mean?
i don't think there's any such thing as "analog cable". which is why cable operators can carry broadband & telephone companies can't...
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
~bb....from the q website......Q TELEVISION NETWORK CONFIRMS SOFT LAUNCH
Q Television Network continues its drive towards its public launch and will air on May 15, 2004 a test of its broadcast signal. This signal will be sent out in analog format and will be viewable to all C-band dish owners. After this test is concluded, network will revert to a digital scrambled signal as it continues towards its regular soft launch to cable, satellite and advertising concerns. Further information regarding satellite and transponder for viewing will be posted in the coming days
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quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
and there's this.......q website.......Firestone Communications, Inc., (www.firestoneinc.com) is a privately held media company based in Dallas-Ft. Worth, Texas. FCIs core business is the network origination and uplink of cable and broadcast neworks, ownership of the cable network, Sorpresa!, and complete commercial and television production services. Company executives have produced television programming for Univision, Telemundo, Turner Broadcasting, and many other clients. The companys facilities include over 43,000 square feet of offices, production studios, fully digital master control, Avid editing suites and a comprehensive tape library. .
notice "fully digital master"....
this instills a lot more faith in to those that have been sceptical.
step by steps the little ducks are forming a row. way to go Q
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Check again dude, they're listed on RCN's site now.-R
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
that's better'n your email responses bb...but, it's only a website....lol
U4 however is goign to have a harder time now with the lie conspiracy
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
oh please i suppose they are lieing
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
YES!!!! WE HAVE AN RCN WEBSITE UPDATE!!!
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
...
They've corrected it to read "Q Television Network" instead of just "Qtv" like they had earlier!
Sorry, thought my ticker was stuck. LOL
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"In an atmosphere of suspicion, men shrivel up."--
Prof. H. Drummond
Same for his buddy.
"Arrogance is a weed that grows mostly on a dunghill." -- M. Tupper
PPS won't last long at these levels. Seems like I keep saying it but it's only been a couple months under a penny. Keep watching.
Enjoy the ride.
France Starts Gay TV Channel PinkTV
7 minutes ago Add Television - AP to My Yahoo!
By JOHN LEICESTER, Associated Press Writer
PARIS (AP) The transgender sportscaster wears a miniskirt, the porn is gay, lesbian and bisexual, and Wonder Woman will be on every night at seven.
France's first gay television channel, PinkTV, is an eye-opener. And that's the point. Pink's founders believe there's a ready audience for the channel, and not just among France's estimated 3.5 million gays.
Pink's "a giant leap for television, a small step in high heels," said presenter Eric Gueho in a promotional clip shown at the channel's unveiling Tuesday, which was feted with pink champagne.
"Gays are speaking to the French. But not all French speak to gays. But it will come."
Well, maybe. This at times surprisingly conservative and largely Roman Catholic country is still divided when it comes to homosexuality.
France has in recent years made big strides, legally recognizing gay couples and electing a gay mayor for Paris. Homophobic remarks will be punishable with prison and fines under a draft law expected to be debated in parliament before the year's end.
But the group SOS Homophobia recorded a doubling in attacks on gays last year, with 86 cases against 41 in 2002. In January, a 35-year-old gay man was severely burned by attackers who doused him with gasoline and ignited it. Sebastien Nouchet told investigators that one of his aggressors said: "You're going to die, faggot."
The government suspended Noel Mamere, a figurehead in France's green movement, from his post as a town mayor for a month after he presided over France's first gay marriage on June 5.
A court in Bordeaux in the southwest later annulled the union of Bertrand Charpentier and Stephane Chapin a ruling the couple has vowed to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.
"Marriage is great! I recommend it to everyone," Charpentier said after the July ruling. But President Jacques Chirac and his popular finance minister and would-be successor Nicolas Sarkozy are among those who have spoken against gay marriage even though a poll earlier this year showed that a majority supports such unions.
Pink says it will take part in the debate on homosexuality and other topics but not does plan to be militant. The channel launches Oct. 25 on cable and satellite. Subscription will cost $11 a month.
Britain already has two channels on the Sky Digital platform GayDate TV, a teleshopping channel targeting the gay community, and GayTV, a late-night soft-core porn channel. And Sweden has gay-friendly programming.
But Pink is the first nationally broadcast gay channel of its kind, said its founder and president, Pascal Houzelot. Pink is aiming for at least 180,000 subscribers. Houzelot said he expects half the audience will be in the Paris region.
"Pink is coming at the right moment," he said. "There's an evident change in mentalities. We've seen society changed. We've seen the law change ... In France, we can clearly say that gays have gone from the era of tolerance to the era of legality, which simply means equality."
Aside from daily doses of Wonder Woman and Japanese "manga" cartoons, Pink plans to broadcast movies, documentaries, music programs, experimental video and series including "Queer as Folk."
There'll be debates Mondays on homophobia, gay unions, gay parenthood and other topics, a chat show Thursdays and X-rated films four nights a week after midnight. The actors will wear condoms.
Pink's sports presenter, Brigitte Boreale, used to be a he but now prefers the term transgender. She wore black high heels and a miniskirt to Tuesday's launch and plans to cover the often macho world of sports "with an angle of attack that's totally different."
She's also keen on marginal sports like yes underwater hockey. "It's totally mad," she said.
Houzelot said about 50 percent of programming will be devoted to subjects "of direct interest to or consecrated to gay guys and girls."
"Perhaps we'll set ourselves apart in the way we tackle subjects and the subjects that we tackle," he said. "Clearly, it will address itself in the first instance to gays but is much larger than that and will, I hope, seduce a diversified public."
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On the Web:
Pink site: www.pinktv.fr
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under Cable TV tab...overview
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and for nyc.....
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/Info_Center.asp?symbol=RCNC
9/23/04 11:07 AM RCN Completes Network Upgrade to Provide Manhattan with the Best in Digital Services - PR Newswire
RCN Completes Network Upgrade to Provide Manhattan with the Best in Digital Services
NEW YORK - PRNewswire-FirstCall - Sept. 23
NEW YORK, Sept. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- RCN Corporation (Pink Sheets: RCNCQ) today announced that it has completed the network upgrade of its customer buildings in Manhattan. The buildings now have RCN's proprietary two-way fiber MegaBand (R) network enabling subscribers in these buildings to receive RCN's full suite of unparalleled cable TV, phone and high-speed Internet.
In conjunction with the network upgrade, RCN has seen an increasing number of its customer base taking bundled high-speed data and phone services in addition to cable TV, with almost 75 percent of second-quarter 2004 installations coming from its product bundles. In addition, average revenue per customer (ARPC) climbed 30 percent during the last 12 months, and average services per customer (ASPC) grew 25 percent in RCN's upgraded two-way buildings.
RCN designed and built the MegaBand (R) network with tomorrow in mind, making future product launches and service enhancements easy and more cost effective, unlike other existing local competitive networks.
"RCN's network is second to none. It gives us a competitive advantage,"said PK Ramani, general manager for RCN's New York market. "With this upgrade, we're making an investment in our customers. We're excited to provide them with a robust suite of products and services that will provide choice and give them the best telecommunications value available."
Besides RCN's core triple-play bundle of cable television, local- and long-distance phone and high-speed Internet, RCN's lineup of digital products includes:
MegaModem Mach7: The fastest two-way residential Internet service in the city at 7 megabits per second downstream and up to 800K bps upstream is more than six times faster than DSL and double the speed of the competition's high- speed Internet service. MegaModem Mach 7 far exceeds any other Internet provider which typically only offers downloads speeds of up to 3Mbps and upload speeds of up to 384Kbps.
With the faster speed RCN delivers, customers can enjoy:
* Multi-player online gaming * Streaming video clips and downloading music * E-mailing large files like family photos * Working from a home office * Hosting their own Web sites and more RCN InterAction Games and Music: Download and play the hottest games, like Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon, plus access more than 700,000 songs
by artists like Beyonce, The Beastie Boys and Jessica Simpson.
Impulse On-Demand: RCN's Video-On-Demand (VOD) product provides customers with the latest movies and more to enjoy -- at their leisure-- with full VCR- like control.
HDTV: The revolution in television viewing -- providing customers with a state-of-the-art movie theatre-like experience. RCN offers the most channels of HDTV programming in New York (including ESPNHD, DiscoveryHD, HBO and more) with unparalleled sharpness and detail.
DVR (Digital Video Recorder): Digitally record favorite shows without a VCR. Plus, access RCN's lineup of HDTV channels with an HD-ready television -- both services are available with one converter box.
For more online information about these services, please go to:
http://www.rcn.com/corpinfo/NY/newyork.php
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my old option was $20/month. it gave me around 20 channels and was called "basic cable". i had no option for pay-per-view, video on demand, etc. it was "basically" the minimum service they offered, and i didn't even need a cable box to get it- i could run the coaxial cable right into the plug on my tv.
my current option is called digital cable- and the minimum package is $60/mt. I have access to digital subscriber services like VOD/PPV/and an extra 1000 channels that come with the digital service. and i get a fancy cable box.
the only difference in the setups has been the cable box I have.
eh, who knows?
~BB
The actual listing on an up and coming carrier is great. This has got to show its validity to all those who still question the Q.
Wish I had more money. O.K., wish my wife would let me use more money.
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Thank God For Qbid
it was approx 5 years ago, and they were the contract provider to my building for all cable/internet broadband services. basically, if you lived in the building, you got their signals.
their customer service was excellent. i even remember calling at 11p one nite cuz (i think it was the tyson fight) wasn't coming thru properly. they took care of it over the phone immediately. i just loved them, but had never heard of them before.
think they still provide services to a few of the luxury buildings downtown. but i think it's mostly high-end apartment buildings.
~BB
Here is the email:
Mr Downing,
I just have a few more questions, if you don't mind.
Will the cities that begin to receive Q Television in October be given a 'free preview" also?
Is the missing audio part of the "free preview" or is there still a technical issue to resolve?
Also, I noticed that Q Television is now listed on the San Francisco channel line up on your website, but they are listed as "Qtv". Shouldn't they be listed as "Q Television", "Q Television Network", or "QTN" since there is already a "Qtv"? Additionally, it is not flagged as a digital channel and I thought that was digital. Am I incorrect or will that happen when the signal is scrambled?
Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. I'm sure that you're being bombarded with questions, so your response is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
******* *******"
Here's the response:
"The free preview was just in SF as part of the inaugural launch on RCN, and the technical issues have been resolved. The website now says Q Television Network instead of QTV..."
Well, he answered most of the, but we'll just have to keep speculating on the 'digital' issue.
[edit spelling]
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i used to have RCN when I lived downtown. they rocked.it was approx 5 years ago, and they were the contract provider to my building for all cable/internet broadband services. basically, if you lived in the building, you got their signals.
their customer service was excellent. i even remember calling at 11p one nite cuz (i think it was the tyson fight) wasn't coming thru properly. they took care of it over the phone immediately. i just loved them, but had never heard of them before.
think they still provide services to a few of the luxury buildings downtown. but i think it's mostly high-end apartment buildings.
~BB
If I'm not mistaken, all of Donald Trumps buildings use RCN. I read that somewhere a while ago.
Also it was posted on an earlier thread that some buildings (condos) owned by Time Warner have RCN.
Seems that RCN provided more for less wth their best-of-the-best bundled services.
First alternative television network broadcast first on the best of the bundled services carriers!
.......I need more shares.
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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
.......I need more shares.[This message has been edited by suzainiee (edited September 28, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Yes, I think Trump does have RCN.
Was doesn't Trump have? LOL
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Come on Qbid, the kids need a pool.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Maybe CA's earthquake today is a sign that QBID will hit 5.9 cents soon.
As noted from above.
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Home from work. Was on pins and needles and
clock watched all day. I am wondering one
thing. If RCN is not charging for Q right
now, how come my cousins' neighbors can't
view it? It just dawned on me. He should of
been able to watch "The Gay Review" when he
went over there Saturday.
I see that as a milestone. Kinda like the "one step for man............."
...... QBID headed to the moon!
However, let me make this more clear; QTN will not be available on the moon-----yet! lol
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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
QTN will be in cities from the west coast all the way to the east coast on October 1.I see that as a milestone. Kinda like the "one step for man............."
However, it is a fact that QTN will not be available on the moon---yet! lol
Thank you so much Suzainiee. I can't wait!!!
atta girl suz.....
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
However, it is a fact that QTN will not be available on the moon---yet! lol
My screen shows 113,315,358 shares traded today. Then 10,000,000 after hours--that's $45,000 if it was one buy.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
....yes, just QBID not the signal headed there.My screen shows 113,315,358 shares traded today. Then 10,000,000 after hours--that's $45,000 if it was one buy.
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Once Q is broadcasting in ALL the RCN cities The PPS will FLY !!!!
Not so fast slick I know everyone loves the little "all we have to do is launch" catch phrase, but I don't think that's entirely accurate. In fact, it's entirely inaccurate.
QTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
Adelphia owns Tele-Media Cable Co. in Seymour, which has 86,000 customers in 13 towns including Seymour, Shelton, Derby, Bethany, Ansonia, Oxford and Beacon Falls.<-------my cable provider
The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that Comcast, the nations No. 1 cable operator, and No. 2 Time Warner Cable would bid for all of Adelphia, the fifth largest cable operator in the United States, measured by the number of subscribers.
Representatives from Time Warner and Comcast confirmed the companies are mulling a joint bid for Adelphia, but declined to comment further.
Adelphia said last week that final bids for any or all of its cable systems, which it has divided into seven clusters, are expected by the end of this year.
An acquisition of Adelphia by the two cable giants could help Comcast unload its 21 percent stake in Time Warner Cable, a transaction that would benefit both companies.
Analysts have speculated that Time Warner would give Comcast some cable systems acquired from Adelphia in exchange for Comcasts interest in Time Warner Cable.
Time Warner bought some time to work on such a transaction with an agreement announced Monday that allows Comcast to trim its stake in Time Warner Cable to 17 percent from 21 percent.
Under the pact, Comcast would swap the 4 percent stake for 90,000 Time Warner cable subscribers and $750 million in cash. Comcast can exercise that option between Dec. 1 and April 1, 2005.
As part of the deal, Comcast has agreed not to request that Time Warner register the stake for sale to the public before April 1, 2005, which will give the companies time to explore other ways for Comcast to fully exit its Time Warner cable stake.
Shares of Comcast closed Monday at $27.87, down 27 cents, on the Nasdaq Stock Market. Time Warner shares closed at $16.33, down 17 cents, on the New York Stock Exchange.
DONT FORGET !! As per MARC and his Projections: HE also predicted that TIME WARNER would be signing a CONTRACT with Q TELEVISION. I say a PR comes out about that CONTRACT by OCT 1. THAT should BE HAPPENING SOON VIA a HUGE PR ..... DONT FORGET TW IS THE SECOND LARGEST CABLE PROVIDER IN THE USA. And right NOW COMCAST has a 21% stake in TIME WARNER. Hmmmmm ?? I think COMCAST could easily Contract with THE Q TV NETWORK... DONT YOU.
I WISH I HAD MORE MONEY to BUY QBID!
All my money is already in this Baby. GLTA
Earth_Man
MDDM $2.00 a share and they dont even have a product yet. There still working on the prototype.
AUML was over $1.00 per share and even had a FORWARD split. This company has not even opened there door to business yet. MAYBE ONE STORE is OPEN for training. There supposed to have more then 4000 franchises. AND YET THE PPS on this continues to make strides. WHY ?? SPECULATION
YOUR BASHING is NOT WELCOME HERE.
Etc Etc .....
S P E C U L A T I O N ! ! !
THATS WHAT STOCKS ARE ALL ABOUT .. ESPECIALLY PINKS !!!
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickQTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickQTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
WILL YOU EAT CROW ??
BUT FOR PINKS its always been about SPECULATION. PLEASE !!!!! Dont dispute this.
BY THE WAY IT WILL WORK OUT AND WE WILL MAKE MONEY. But just being the devils advocate on why I think it will need subs to run up to where we all will be very happy in a lot of investors minds.
Ric
Now please provide DD and stop BASHING.
Thank You.
But as far as .05 PPS this will be reached there is no dought about it. $1.00 a share BETWEEN .10 - 1.00 NOW thats were you are RIGHT.
GOOD LUCK RIC.
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Ric that last post was for RobinO not you.But as far as .05 PPS this will be reached there is no dought about it. $1.00 a share BETWEEN .10 - 1.00 NOW thats were you are RIGHT.
GOOD LUCK RIC.
Frank to be MEETING Time Warner in NY On Friday. If the contract is agreed upon then a PR would come out NEXT WEEK about TW deal.
Once this is official PPS will Sky Rocket to .04 - .06
GLTA
Earth_man
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Time Warner is the Nations 2nd LARGEST Cable provider. MArc already said that TW would be signing a deal with Q.Once this is official PPS will Sky Rocket to .04 - .06
GLTA
Earth_man
Ric
Q Television Network, (Pink Sheets: QBID), announced today that it has hired Rubenstein Associates, Inc. to help build Q Television Networks profile.
We are honored to have such an esteemed agency as Rubenstein Associates working to help get Q Television more exposure, said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. We anticipate great things for Q through the efforts of Rubenstein.
Rubenstein Associates has helped companies like Sony Music Entertainment, New York Yankees, Lifetime Television, the National Hockey League and Rush Communications develop strong strategic communications and corporate relations programs. Rubenstein will seek to promote Q Television Network to the national media. The agency will help brand Q Television Network by using its 50 plus years in the communications industry.
Q Television Network is smart with its timing, said Howard J. Rubenstein, President of Rubenstein Associates, Inc. The gay and lesbian community has a voice that is being heard now. We look forward to helping establish the network and make a name for itself.
About Rubenstein Associates
Since its founding in 1954 by Howard J. Rubenstein, Rubenstein Associates has made strategic, results-oriented publicity and media relations its specialty. Today the company has a roster of more than 450 clients served by a staff of 170.
Rubenstein creates innovative publicity opportunities and communications solutions that support the full range of client objectives. In addition, the company is expert at crisis management and financial relations, and provides counsel on image management and corporate citizenship.
From its offices in New York, Rubenstein represents a wide spectrum of clients, including global corporations, media and entertainment companies, sports teams, financial services organizations, real estate concerns, educational and cultural institutions, law firms, healthcare providers, not-for-profit organizations, business executives and public figures.
About Q Television Network
This television network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
Safe Harbor Statement
We gonna get this money
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slick-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
....parades and weeds (previous page)
"A little mind courteth notoriety, to illustrate its puny self." Tupper again.
So, they were off 10,000,000 shares at the close.
Perhaps the buy back has begun.
McFly
Ric, other premiums do differ from QTN. They show the same movies over, over, and over to a general audience.
QTN has a dedicated audience with a variety of programing.
I see this as a plus.
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Since there is not a check in the digital column, QTN will be analog?
Hope so. Everyone does not subscribe to digital. It may not even be available everywhere.
Basic would be the quickest way to increase the number of subscribers.
Most premium channels that cost $7.95 or more are usually movie channels. There is no premium channel out there for a specific target group like Q. We are really closer to what BET started out as. They targeted the African Anericans. Now most of these types of channels start out on a tier or package level on a cable network. Lets say you wanted the family package through my cable company with cost $20.00 a month, you get about 15 extra channels like NIck, toon, ABC family, Disney, Nick 2, etc. Your are really paying a premium but its in a package. Q will be the first new network (thats not a movie channel) thats going to be a stand alone premium channel at a cost of $7.95 a month. I think that since no other cahnnel offers a complete news, movies, talk shows for a guy/lesbian group that it will take off but this type of format has really never been tried before and new things can make some leary until they can see the money. We know the money will come but I think that some will need to see the numbers.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Hi Firefly.Ric, how do other premiums differ from QTN? Is it in the price?
We don't have HBO, but we could subscribe for $??? a month.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
"raining on parades since 1976"
That says alot. I agree, we need subs, adv., and exposure. Your tone is dismal Robin O.McFly
No, not dismal. Realistic.
Given enough time I think QTN could do well, but to do so, certain things need to happen. Let's reverse engineer this shall we:
Subscribers will start signing up when they're aware of QTN.
Awareness will happen with a major marketing/advertising campaign.
A major marketing/advertising campaign will happen whey they have gobs of money to do one.
Gobs of money will roll in with corporate/VC backing.
Corporate/VC backing will occur when these companies can take QTN seriously.
These companies will take QTN seriously when they can actually analyze it and make a determination to invest.
They can actually analyze QTN and make a determination to invest when they can see the financials.
They can see the financials when Frank decides to start reporting them to the SEC.
Therefore, I'm highly optimistic that this could do extremely well and be the next BET, OLN, etc...... once they become a reporting company. I seriously doubt any bigshot investors are going to throw money into this one without being able to see where it's going and what Frank's done with it in the past. Let's face it, Triangle Multimedia's history is shady to say the least. But with a few minor steps towards legitimizing the operation, I think huge things are possible. Having a signal on the air is great, but it'll take a lot more than that in order to allow you to retire early.
Now for those of you who are about to respond with your 'basher!' nonsense, at least have the decency to point out where I've done so and provide some reasons why my line of thinking is wrong. I'm always up for hearing it.
-R
"All we have to do is think!"
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickQTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
I agree with you Robin O, QBID will not make a big move until subscribers appear and adverstiers start coming in.
This stock needs alot institutional investors to get on board so they can start buying huge blocks to move the price up, but this WILL NOT happen UNTIL Q Television Network is showing signs that it will be successful and profitable. Look at the price now; QTV is just about to launch and the price is lower than it was when they had no product at all and just an idea. Hype moved QBID up in the first place, now reality has set in and people are not certain that this will be a hit. Uncertainty kills a stock.
Well, thats where the gamble part kicks in, if it is a hit and they start getting subs, then the combination of certainty, massive hype and revenues should move the price extremely high. And you know what happens if QTV is not a hit, so I dont have to mention that.
Like I said before in my other post, which was erased, (although the post calling me a bum is still up which I think is unfair, lol), you just have to sit and wait to see if they start pulling people in.
Your analysis was much more definitive than mine.
QTN's potential subscribers have waited six years for it to air.
IMHO, it will "fly off the shelf" just like Firestone's Hispanic children's programing did.
There are many other areas that are still waiting to get on board.
Go QBID!
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Been a lurker for months. Will be quiet again.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
This is the amazing part Ric. It is groundbreaking on so many different fronts.
ALso GLBT transcend race.
Yes!
We are a pioneer network--developing new territories.
QTN will be a leader.......
broadcasting into space where others are sure to follow. The QBID story.....
either way U4 should be able to set us straight about that.
lol
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
On October 1, QTN will be available in cities from the west coast all the way to the east coast.I see that as a milestone. Kinda like the "one step for man............."
...... QBID headed to the moon!
However, let me make this more clear; QTN will not be available on the moon-----yet! lol
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impossible at this point in my eyes.
and i threw out the rose coloured glasses a long time ago. your going to deny the progress all the way to a buck arent you!
that is fine, we are goign to make our money off this too.
All we had to ever do ehhhh Whiz
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickQTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
YES!!!! WE HAVE AN RCN WEBSITE UPDATE!!!
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10all we had to do was... what was that whiz?
~BB[This message has been edited by betting babe (edited September 28, 2004).]
"LAUNCH!"
"All we ever had to do is LAUNCH!"
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whizknock
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=10
Bring on the sub numbers every couple of months! Remember SIRI?
"ALL WE EVER HAD TO DO IS LAUNCH!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickQTV could get airtime in 50 major cities, but it won't mean anything until they get subscribers. No subscribers = no advertisers = no revenue = no huge gains = no early retirement = no Vegas party, etc.
I recommend a change in the team cheer. "All we have to do is get subscribers"... Getting a signal on the air is pretty simple. Convincing people that your signal is worth paying for is a whole different story...
-R
"Raining on parades since 1976"
Obviously you never read any of my earlier posts on previous threads. Always maintained that launch was what would open the door to all our opportunities.
Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than one dollar a share.
With a HALF TRILLION DOLLAR target who needs a bullseye.
Teaching robins since 1949!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
GETTER DONE!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
they dont need to be convinced to buy it they have been waiting for this for a long time and they will buy it just to support thier cause. half a trillion dollars. we dont even have to have half of one percent of thier disposible income to make a go of this, how can we fail!impossible at this point in my eyes.
and i threw out the rose coloured glasses a long time ago. your going to deny the progress all the way to a buck arent you!
that is fine, we are goign to make our money off this too.
All we had to ever do ehhhh Whiz
Rod
You got it Penny!
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Uh Whiz...who's you talking about!!!GETTER DONE!!!!!
Robin-not-O!!!!
I was talking to robinO.
We all know this was a bet & I know what wager you took. God bless & good luck!
The "BET" was simple.
"ALL WE EVER HAD TO DO IS LAUNCH!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
robinO...you stated getting subscribers was the hard part, about 3 moonths ago a series of articles and a couple of lists were posted stating that very, very few of the start-up networks ever see the light of a TV screen. the hard part is getting on the air to get subscribers. i think you got that comment backwards.
Bill!
RobinO doesn't want to hear that. It was as right as he will ever be. All the hardest work occurs before a network ever gets a chance to broadcast. They have to prove a market before any carrier will even consider them seriously let alone put them on the air.
That's why I made a mantra of that one simple point,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Thanks Whiz for the "mantra"!
Suz
"This will be a MONEYMAKER"
"We're going to make money"
"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk."
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Quote from the CEO of Q Television Network"We're going to make money"
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RCN Completes Network Upgrade to Provide Manhattan with the Best in Digital Services
9/23/2004 10:59:00 AM
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DIANA
Just watching these days. Would love to have a press release from Frank stating the status of things...and I REALLY want to know about other carriers.
Happy trading.
quote:
Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Keep me posted when the bell rings!! GIVE ME SOME DIGITS!!
Robin
[This message has been edited by Degs (edited September 29, 2004).]
hope that helps.
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
seems like there are a lot of buys going through for 999,999 and also for 1 million. Anybody else seeing this?
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
you posed to be workinglol!!!! oh well the DIGITS are coming!!!!SHHHHH!!
[This message has been edited by Degs (edited September 29, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
CashRules, What streamer or broker do you use?
HTH
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
opened at 0046. went to 0045 and back at 0046.hope that helps.
Thanks Sunny...must of buzzed right on by
your post..
Hey Degs....Can I quit my job yet?
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by CashRules:
ameritrade
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited September 29, 2004).]
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
off topic - why are web page links "stared" ?i.e. www.ragingbull.com Not sure why that worked?[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited September 29, 2004).]
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited September 29, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by CashRules:
ameritrade
Cash-
Launch Streamer Console
Launch "Last Sale"
Any more questions are best addressed to Ameritrade, rather than here. People are paid to answer all your questions.
800-823-2835
Mean we do not want the spammers or paid pumpers to be shown here.
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Cash-Launch Streamer Console
Launch "Last Sale"
Any more questions are best addressed to Ameritrade, rather than here. People are paid to answer all your questions.
800-823-2835
quote:
Originally posted by Allstocks:
********Mean we do not want the spammers or paid pumpers to be shown here.
Thanks
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called 'nation-building."
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Quote from the ex-mayor of Washington DC Marion Barry"I promise you a police car on every sidewalk."
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Anyone having trouble getting to scottrade web page?
no trouble here.
Lots of large trades going through
quote:
Originally posted by kommoncents:
Quote from Bill Clinton: " I did not have sex with that woman," under Grand Jury oath which is perjury and " It depends what is IS?"
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
no trouble here.Lots of large trades going through
Thanks - what's the current price?
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Thanks - what's the current price?
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
0.0044
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
0.0042 now...
Thanks - lots of large buys?? (You're great at play by play)
Looks like a lot of manipulation to me. Not large buys. They are correcting the buys after they are posting them. Looks like there trying to keep price down or bring price down.
Ric
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
09/29/04 14:29:15 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000
09/29/04 14:29:42 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0
09/29/04 14:29:55 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 -2881000
09/29/04 14:30:08 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000
09/29/04 14:30:20 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 -2881000
09/29/04 14:30:32 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000
09/29/04 14:30:48 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0
09/29/04 14:31:00 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 -2881000
09/29/04 14:31:14 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000
09/29/04 14:31:26 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0
09/29/04 14:31:39 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 -3685000
09/29/04 14:31:52 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 3885000
09/29/04 14:32:19 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 0
09/29/04 14:32:32 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 -3685000
09/29/04 14:32:45 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 3685000
09/29/04 14:32:57 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 -2881000
09/29/04 14:33:11 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 3300000
09/29/04 14:33:24 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 -3300000
09/29/04 14:33:37 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 0
09/29/04 14:33:49 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 2881000
09/29/04 14:34:03 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 419000
09/29/04 14:34:16 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 0
09/29/04 14:34:30 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 -419000
09/29/04 14:34:43 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 -2881000
09/29/04 14:34:56 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 2881000
09/29/04 14:35:21 0.0043 0.0043 0.0043 0
Looks like a lot of manipulation to me. Not large buys. They are correcting the buys after they are posting them. Looks like there trying to keep price down or bring price down.Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Anyone having trouble getting to scottrade web page?
I have not been able to get to it all day. I have been trying since this morning.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Now THAT'S play-by-play! LOL
Awesome baby ! (My Dick Vitale imitation)
Scottrade is down - I called TW roadrunner support in Canada and they can't get to them either.
I don't have anything to do with this program except like it very much. AND I have been able to use this even when Ameritrade was down.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
http://www.quotetracker.com/I love this to track all my OTC and pinks that I am watching. They have raw data streaming which provides time and sales. I link it to my Ameritrade so I get real time on everything. They have free links but I think they are delayed but it can link to all online brokers that you have.
Ric
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited September 29, 2004).]
GLTA.
Let them bring the price down. Can only hold it down so long. Ready for the POP!
Lil
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
Let them bring the price down. Can only hold it down so long. Ready for the POP!Lil
HTH
Scottrader's login page.
www.scottsave.com
[This message has been edited by lilpennypincher (edited September 29, 2004).]
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
Ric, I just set quotetracker up. Works pretty well. Thanks again. Lilpenny, thanks for the help as well.
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited September 29, 2004).]
GLTU
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
09/29/04 14:29:15 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000
09/29/04 14:29:42 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0
09/29/04 14:29:55 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 -2881000
09/29/04 14:30:08 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 2881000Looks like a lot of manipulation to me. Not large buys. They are correcting the buys after they are posting them. Looks like there trying to keep price down or bring price down.
Ric
Ric,
Thats not manipulation. That's bad data. Not uncommon with Scottrade. Could also be caused if you have Quotetracker setup to get data from 2 or more datafeeds on the same symbol. If so, remove the symbol from one of the portfolios so it will only be getting data from one datafeed.
If you still have a problem, email support@quotetracker.com
Jerry Medved http://www.quotetracker.com
quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Medved:
Ric,Thats not manipulation. That's bad data. Not uncommon with Scottrade. Could also be caused if you have Quotetracker setup to get data from 2 or more datafeeds on the same symbol. If so, remove the symbol from one of the portfolios so it will only be getting data from one datafeed.
If you still have a problem, email support@quotetracker.com
Jerry Medved http://www.quotetracker.com
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
no its not. I know what I am talking about.
As do I since I am one of the designers of the software . The negative volume in the raw data window in QT means that QT got a quote with lower volume than the previous quote. That is not supposed to happen (technical issue, not legal one).
quote:
Thats not manipulation. That's bad data. Not uncommon with Scottrade. Could also be caused if you have Quotetracker setup to get data from 2 or more datafeeds on the same symbol. If so, remove the symbol from one of the portfolios so it will only be getting data from one datafeed.
That's great Jerry. Thanks. In English now please. LOL
WHAT!!!? lol
Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I accidently posted on this quotetracker tutorial thread.
hope that helps
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I set my alerts for news on quotetracker, since I set up the alerts, a PR for MLON came out and it did not alert me, why?
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
News out about QBID!!!Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I accidently posted on this quotetracker tutorial thread.
Sorry winsum, I'm just trying to learn about it. If its that big of a deal, I can start a new thread. Thanks for the help everyone.
Patience it key here (I THINK??), days like today just want to make u scratch your head and just yell WTF. Few months ago we were at .01 with no news and I cant believe with all this good news we still .004Xs
Good Luck Guys
Ralph (aka my old username was sottotono)
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FACTA NON VERBA
WinsumLosesum is right - This isn't the right place for that. We would be glad to help you out - email support@quotetracker.com with the problem. I didn't mean for this thread to be taken over when I posted
Im sure the Winsome was just teasing. if not dont worry about it. this is a help forum and you asked for help.
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
Sorry winsum, I'm just trying to learn about it. If its that big of a deal, I can start a new thread. Thanks for the help everyone.
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CREST, TIDE MAKER GIVES MONEY, CLOUT TO REPEAL LAW FORBIDDING SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR HOMOSEXUALS
Procter & Gamble, makers of Crest toothpaste and Tide detergent, has publicly thrown their support and money behind the homosexual political agenda.
P&G recently wrote to their Cincinnati employees urging them to support the repeal of a city law that forbids giving special rights to homosexuals. In 1993, the citizens in Cincinnati adopted the law by a vote of 62% to 38%. P&G is now working to get that law repealed and has given $10,000 toward that goal.
http://www.pgboycott.com/pginformation.pdf (letter to employees) http://www.pgboycott.com/pgcontributions.pdf (contribution)
To our knowledge, Procter & Gamble is the first company to support the political agenda of the homosexual movement.
While not explicitly saying so in their public announcement supporting the repeal, P&G clearly showed their support for homosexual marriage. P&G said they "will not tolerate discrimination [against homosexuals] in any form, against anyone, for any reason." To keep homosexuals from being legally married is discrimination for good reason, which P&G says they will not tolerate. Taking them at their word, P&G supports homosexual marriage.
Take Action
American Family Association is asking pro-family groups and individuals to:
(1) Boycott two products of P&G Crest toothpaste and Tide detergent. (Make sure your replacement is not a P&G product.)
(2) Call Chrm. A.G. Lafley at 513-983-1100 and politely let him know that you are participating in the boycott and will ask others to do the same.
(3) Please Click Here to register your support for the boycott. We will send a regular update to P&G on the number participating. http://www.pgboycott.com/signpetition.asp
(4) Please forward this email to your friends and family.
(5) Click here to print out and distribute the boycott Crest and Tide petition. http://www.pgboycott.com/PGBoycottPetition.pdf
Sincerely,
Don
Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association
P.S. Click here for a complete list of P&G products. http://www.pgboycott.com/productlist.asp
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i'll never understand this country, part of what makes going to iraq the right thing to do is that 25 million ppl had no freedom of choice yet here we are trying to add another law taking away another freedom of choice from US citizens
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i'll never understand this country, part of what makes going to iraq the right thing to do is that 25 million ppl had no freedom of choice yet here we are trying to add another law taking away another freedom of choice from US citizens
Lesbian and Gay TV Network
I had the opportunity to talk with Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Q Television Network, a new TV channel for gays and lesbians. Q Television will show programming for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans community. This television network was created to develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week beginning in late 2004.
Here's what Frank Olsen, president of Q Television had to say.
KB: Where did the idea of Q Television first come from?
I got the idea for Q Television from watching Trinity broadcasting.
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How can people check out the programming on Q Television?
By mid-October we should be in 7 major markets across the USA and we expect 100,000 customers by December. We will offer 30 days free viewing in all broadcast areas. We hope to be in 55% of the country by mid-January. Remember that Q Television is a baby right now, just as MTV was 20 years ago, and we have to grow. We will be inclusive and make programming for the entire gay community as we grow. The $7.95 subscription fee is for two reasons: 1) to generate revenue for the cable/satellite companies and 2) because we want to be in people's homes at their invitation ONLY. We will be there because they WANT us to be there.
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Ric
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited September 29, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
no its not. I know what I am talking about.
Insert "remove foot from mouth" icon here
-R
Heres another article from gaylife.
Ric
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 29, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Insert "remove foot from mouth" icon here-R
RobinO - Give Ric a break. You ever make a mistake???
CA-Palm Springs TV BROADCASTING ENGINEER Q Television 09/24
TV BROADCASTING ENGINEER Part time on call position for qualified broadcast/broadband/cable/satellite engineer for Palm Springs TV Netw...
Look for: thedessertsun.com want adds.
Key word Q Television
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 29, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Grow Grow Grow!CA-Palm Springs TV BROADCASTING ENGINEER Q Television 09/24
TV BROADCASTING ENGINEER Part time on call position for qualified broadcast/broadband/cable/satellite engineer for Palm Springs TV Netw...Look for: thedessertsun.com want adds.
Key word Q Television
[This message has been edited by firefly (edited September 29, 2004).]
And grow we will Firefly,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
Got That Right Whiz.
Good to see you (Don't get in trouble)!
Q Television Network and Firestone Communications Inc. announced their second deal this week.
On the heels of Wednesdays announcement that Firestone will assist Q in moving its main satellite connection from New Orleans to Fort Worth, Texas, by redigitalizing the networks signal and sending it through to RCN Corp. for uploading, the two parties said Friday that Firestone will produce a portion of Qs live programming.
Among shows Firestone will produce for Q will be a live call-in show hosted by a gay or lesbian personality and a news and sports show, along with 40 documentaries on gay and lesbian celebrities.
"We look forward to producing Q's dynamic and realistic television shows and a historically important series of documentaries, Firestone president Michael Fletcher said in a prepared statement.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
"All we ever had to do is launch!""All we ever had to do is launch!"
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
Got That Right Whiz.
Good to see you (Don't get in trouble)!
When we're comfortably well over a buck & I've bought my baby a Mercedes there will only be trouble when she asks why I didn't buy more QBID!
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
RobinO - Give Ric a break. You ever make a mistake???
All the time. However, note the little yellow ball with the winking eye and smiley mouth. It's a pretty good indicator of joking around, kidding, sarcasm, etc. Although it really IS funny when people try to pass themselves off as experts around here.....
-R
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing..."
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
All the time. However, note the little yellow ball with the winking eye and smiley mouth. It's a pretty good indicator of joking around, kidding, sarcasm, etc. Although it really IS funny when people try to pass themselves off as experts around here.....-R
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing..."
"Trust me" is rated as the #1 most suspicious term --red flag.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Wow that's pathetic. Comparing the thousands of lives lost in an illegal occupation with a BJ. Perhaps if Bush got more of them he'd be less intent on taking over the world! LOL
Yeh, thank God "W" did something or another 500,000 innocent lives would be in mass graves.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
http://www.jackejett.com/
A little program schedule.
.....broadcasting in "most" major cities soon!
By: bulldogs8869
29 Sep 2004, 03:56 PM EDT
Msg. 40519 of 40526
Jump to msg. #
Great News! The Jack E Jett show website now says-airing on Q at 11:30 Saturday Nights! That has changed in the last few days!!!!!!!!!! Go Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.jackejett.com/
Something is definitely in the works with a big carrier if they plan to have carriage in 55% of the country by mid January. Boy...did he throw us a bone with that comment. Oh well...something to chew on for a few more months.
Does everyone understand what Frank has just told us ?
I am guessing it means Another carrier (Time Warner) will be announced Perhaps ON MONDAYs PR.
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
HINT .... When QTN gets 100,000 subscribers it wont be just from RCN customers.Does everyone understand what Frank has just told us ?
I am guessing it means Another carrier (Time Warner) will be announced Perhaps ON MONDAYs PR.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Rumour..........
I heard that we will be seeing Frank from the Q sking down a hill on Stowe TV butt naked with a QBID tatoo on his A$$, JUST THINK OF THE RATINGS.....
and he is being pulled by the cmkx extreme machine.
it's always good to have a light, harmless laugh about all these things.
good one bigrod!
-ken
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quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
All the time. However, note the little yellow ball with the winking eye and smiley mouth. It's a pretty good indicator of joking around, kidding, sarcasm, etc. Although it really IS funny when people try to pass themselves off as experts around here.....-R
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing..."
Two items - I was not implying that Ric made a mistake and as poot poot once eloquently said "hey kettle....your black"
RobinO Take it to r a g i n g b u l l so you can converse with your kind.
QBID FOR CHRISTMAS??? WHAT A GREAT IDEA!! BEATS SHOPPING AND BUYING $100.00 WORTH OF SOMETHING THAT NO ONE WILL WEAR!!
25,000 x .0041 = $102.50
25,000 x .10 = $2,500.00
ho ho ho
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DIANA
Morning everyone!
Happy trading.
quote:
Originally posted by Allstocks:
********Mean we do not want the spammers or paid pumpers to be shown here.
BOB,
THAT IS WHY I NO LONGER POST ON ANY OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. BY ACCIDENT I FOUND OUT THAT ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I POSTED ON WAS PAID FOR THEIR SERVICES. NOW I REFUSE TO VISIT OR POST ON THAT SITE!! WHEN I ADDRESSED THE ISSUE I WAS LIED TO!! IT IS NOT A CRIME TO GET PAID FOR ADVERTIZING. THE CRIME LIES IN GETTING PAID AND ADDING THIS DISCLAIMER:
This newsletter is without bias, and is not paid release. XXX has not been compensated for dissemination of company information on behalf any of the companies mentioned in this release.
ENOUGH SAID!!
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DIANA
[This message has been edited by realityinc21 (edited September 30, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
dont apologise this is a legitimate question that im sure 4 others read and learned or wanted to the same question answered.Im sure the Winsome was just teasing. if not dont worry about it. this is a help forum and you asked for help.
Geez penny. Nothing like 'dismissing' Winsum!
It's actually not a help forum, it's a stock forum. It didn't bother me that it was dicussed, but this is the wrong thread for it. I just didn't like how the attitude was basically, "too bad Winsum, get over it". That was wrong and needed to be said.
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
HELLO--ANYONE OUT THERE IN CYBER-LAND??
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
HELLO--ANYONE OUT THERE IN CYBER-LAND??
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I don't know if I ever thank you Diana for making me a lot of money or not. I bought this at .0009 partly on your enthusium and sold 80% at .018. That was some good money there so hope you made that killing on this too. One of the reason I am still up for the year quite a bit.Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I don't know if I ever thank you Diana for making me a lot of money or not. I bought this at .0009 partly on your enthusium and sold 80% at .018. That was some good money there so hope you made that killing on this too. One of the reason I am still up for the year quite a bit.Ric
I DO LOVE MY QBID!! I STILL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL. GOOD LUCK TO US ALL!!
GLAD YOU MADE MONEY. YOU ARE WELCOME!!
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DIANA
I would not mind waiting longer......
Since I just bought more for Christmas shopping,
my list is getting longer!
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
Haven't read all the posts, but from what I see here now, sounds like everyone bailed out. What happened?
I think a good amount of people are still holding
Lil
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
Haven't read all the posts, but from what I see here now, sounds like everyone bailed out. What happened?
Obviously, you have not read any of the posts.
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
[B] excitement has been quieted.. B]
Quite before the storm...
$7.95 x 100,000=$795.00
$7.95 x 150,000=$1,192,500
$7.95 x 200,000=$1,590,000
$7.95 x 250,000=$1,987,500
$7.95 x 300,000=$2,385,000
$7.95 x 500,000=$3,975,000
$7.95 x 1,000,000=$7,950,000
....................................................a month.
Our potential audience is how many millions?
Oh yeah!
quote:
Originally posted by a4realguy:
Yes but even Diana sounds humbled.. excitement has been quieted.. just wondering if I missed something....
JUST RESEARCHING SMTR!! I LOVE MY QBID!!
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
JUST RESEARCHING SMTR!! I LOVE MY QBID!!
Diana!
I've had Smart tire on my watch for over a year. They have steadily declined from the .15 range & once or twice went as high as .25 last October. What caught your eye? Volume?
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whizknock
http://members.cox.net/pootpoot/index1.html
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
"Trust me" is rated as the #1 most suspicious term --red flag.
Oh I know.. sorta like "I promise"
The line is from that old comedy cop show, Sledgehammer. Hilarious show... crazy cop with large gun who mangles everything he does.. but before doing so always says "Trust me, I know what I'm doing..." The show ended its run with Sledgehammer saying that, then cut to a longshot of a mushroom cloud over the city. Great stuff...
-R
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
What are you seeing here that I don't?
Slow posting? I don't think any of the longs went anywhere.
I haven't posted much lately but, am still here.Lil
Lilpennypincher!
That's the good news!!!
There's nothing to post about anymore!
HALF A TRILLION DOLLAR target, .05% of which is $250,000,000.oo!
That's right!
POINT ZERO FIVE PERCENT OF $500,000,000,000.oo = TWO HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.
If we generate that kind of business revenue on just a yearly basis this stock will be trading for a couple dollars a share if not more.
This is just one reason why people can't find a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network that trades for less than a dollar a share.
I can't think of anything new to write about. My "good till cancel" sell order is in for $1.50 a share.
It's all just a matter of time, nothing more, nothing less!
After all'''
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Diana!I've had Smart tire on my watch for over a year. They have steadily declined from the .15 range & once or twice went as high as .25 last October. What caught your eye? Volume?
I BOUGHT AT .025 9/13 AND SOLD FOR .10 ON 9/21. REBOUGHT AT .032 on 9/28.
PRODUCT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. HAD BEEN WATCHING FOR THE BOTTOM BOUNCE AND TREND REVERSAL.
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by SnoozenLooze:
Hey all: I haven't been around lately due to business travel. Plus, I'm sick of staring at QBID everyday for nothing lately. Just thought I'd share a funny story. I just fired up my streamer for the first time in a few days, and because of a glitch with Java or something QBID switched with LU. I almost pooped myself when I saw QBID with a pps of 3.17! Alas, it only lasted a second...
You were just given a sneak preview of PPS two years from now!
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Lilpennypincher!That's the good news!!!
There's nothing to post about anymore!
HALF A TRILLION DOLLAR target, .05% of which is $250,000,000.oo!
That's right!
POINT ZERO FIVE PERCENT OF $500,000,000,000.oo = TWO HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.
If we generate that kind of business revenue on just a yearly basis this stock will be trading for a couple dollars a share if not more.
This is just one reason why people can't find a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network that trades for less than a dollar a share.
I can't think of anything new to write about. My "good till cancel" sell order is in for $1.50 a share.
It's all just a matter of time, nothing more, nothing less!
After all'''
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
WHIZ,
"ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WAIT!!."
THERE IS ????? THREADS OF RESEARCH AND DD. OUR JOB IS DONE AND HAS BEEN DONE FOR A WHILE. ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD TO CATCH ON!!
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DIANA
I have seen lots of NEW POSTERS myself.
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
WHIZ,"ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WAIT!!."
THERE IS ????? THREADS OF RESEARCH AND DD. OUR JOB IS DONE AND HAS BEEN DONE FOR A WHILE. ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD TO CATCH ON!!
Like Earthshaker says,,, True that!!!!!!!!1
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Our potential audience is how many millions?
Not so fast slick (ooo there it is again!)
At the moment, the only carrier is RCN. RCN has something like 400k subscribers. If you believe the statistics, somewhere between 3-6% of the population is gay. At the top end, that's about 24,000 people in RCN's subscriber range. Figure many of those will be couples living together, thus sharing their cable, and you're not gonna get all 24,000 of those people to subscribe, so I'd say a GENEROUS estimate is currently around 5,000 potential subscriptions.
Now then, *if* they actually do sign up with some more carriers, you can obviously expand that. But until you get confirmation, 'millions' of subscribers isn't realistic.
Now then, that one pumper guy said that there would be another PR with confirmation of a major carrier before the end of the month, which happens to be today. If you're inclined to believe him, so be it, but I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Expect the worst, and you'll be ecstatic if it goes well. Expect the best, and you're only setting yourself up to be let down...
-R
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
NUFF SAID !!!!
quote:
Originally posted by kommoncents:
Yeh, thank God "W" did something or another 500,000 innocent lives would be in mass graves.
quote:
Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
from another board.http://members.cox.net/pootpoot/index1.html
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Did everybody look at this site? What is the story with it? Why is it more attractive than www.qtelevision.com?????? Also, why is it at a site related to cox communications?
according to the marco posts on rb, i believe he stated that a rework of the website is high on their list.
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Did everybody look at this site? What is the story with it? Why is it more attractive than www.qtelevision.com?????? Also, why is it at a site related to cox communications?
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
quote:
Originally posted by knobula2:
i dont believe it's exactly cox related. the person who owns this just so happen to have cox hosting their site it seems. looks like individual is working on the front end design, probably hoping to sell the design to Q later on?according to the marco posts on rb, i believe he stated that a rework of the website is high on their list.
Whoever made the site subscribes to cox cable internet service. Thier username on that service is Pootpoot and that is why it is hosted with cox. All cox internet subscribers should get a small amount of personal web space.
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Did everybody look at this site? What is the story with it? Why is it more attractive than www.qtelevision.com?????? Also, why is it at a site related to cox communications?
PootPoot has posted on here before. He made that website and actually posted the link on here a while back. If I remember right, he was trying to get Q to hire him to rework their site.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickAt the moment, the only carrier is RCN. RCN has something like 400k subscribers. If you believe the statistics, somewhere between 3-6% of the population is gay. At the top end, that's about 24,000 people in RCN's subscriber range. Figure many of those will be couples living together, thus sharing their cable, and you're not gonna get all 24,000 of those people to subscribe, so I'd say a GENEROUS estimate is currently around 5,000 potential subscriptions.
Now then, *if* they actually do sign up with some more carriers, you can obviously expand that. But until you get confirmation, 'millions' of subscribers isn't realistic.
Now then, that one pumper guy said that there would be another PR with confirmation of a major carrier before the end of the month, which happens to be today. If you're inclined to believe him, so be it, but I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Expect the worst, and you'll be ecstatic if it goes well. Expect the best, and you're only setting yourself up to be let down...
-R
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
There you go again. 
Potential customers means "possible"--possible customers. QTN has millions of POTENTIAL customers.
A long tongue is a sign of a short hand.
quote:
Originally posted by famtrecrew:
im showing a T&S buy of 100 shares at 3:45 LOL
Another at 15:50
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickAt the moment, the only carrier is RCN. RCN has something like 400k subscribers. If you believe the statistics, somewhere between 3-6% of the population is gay. At the top end, that's about 24,000 people in RCN's subscriber range. Figure many of those will be couples living together, thus sharing their cable, and you're not gonna get all 24,000 of those people to subscribe, so I'd say a GENEROUS estimate is currently around 5,000 potential subscriptions.
Now then, *if* they actually do sign up with some more carriers, you can obviously expand that. But until you get confirmation, 'millions' of subscribers isn't realistic.
Now then, that one pumper guy said that there would be another PR with confirmation of a major carrier before the end of the month, which happens to be today. If you're inclined to believe him, so be it, but I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Expect the worst, and you'll be ecstatic if it goes well. Expect the best, and you're only setting yourself up to be let down...
-R
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
RobinO, OT here but, I think a lot of people have a problem with you, not for so much as what you have to say but, the way you say it.
I for one have a name posted to your left. Can't speak for anyone else but, when you start out your posts calling people "Slick" or whatever, kinda' turns me off. We may not post our real names but do offer alturnatives just to your left.
Sorry, Just needed to let you know, if infact you do address me, use my name or my SN or just simply quote me and not use any of your pet names you may dream up.
K?
Thanks, Lil
I fully expect that if you wanted information on somethign you would ask.
I also see posts of other stocks in here, so there is lots of off topic discussion in here. to point out that one question i think is getting really picky.
my point is ask the question, if someone is willing to help they will. if you dont want to help then dont. but to have a debate over wether the question is appropriate or not is also not appropriate.
that is why i addressed the question with a simple answer. That would have been the end of it
so this is the last that i will respond to this topic.
now back to our regularly shedualed program.
one more trading day this week last day of the sale prices?
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Geez penny. Nothing like 'dismissing' Winsum!It's actually not a help forum, it's a stock forum. It didn't bother me that it was dicussed, but this is the wrong thread for it. I just didn't like how the attitude was basically, "too bad Winsum, get over it". That was wrong and needed to be said.
Lilpenny...love reading your posts! LOL Hope all is well with the move.
Have a good day.
RCN currently has --> 388,650 <--subscribed customers, but they also still state that:
RCN currently has more than --> 1 million customer connections <-- in the Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington, D.C., metropolitan markets.
In my opinion, once they regain customer confidence and restructure, the subscriber base will grow quickly.
Not a bad start for an upstart network like Q to partner with.
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For comparison, the upstart tv network I am working with, Expo TV, has initially partnered with Insight Cable, which is "owning or managing 1.4 million customers in Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, and Ohio."
That's not much bigger than what RCN could potentially be after restructuring.
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IMO we're looking at the bare minimum right now for Q subscribers, and it can only get stronger. Plus, they have chosen a partner that is in the metropolitan areas, where they are more likely to have a target audience.
and as RCN gains subscribers over their "currently connected lines" we'll see progress.
my point is i don't think RCN is as dinky as it's been made out to be, and I think comparitively it is a good launch point.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Another revisionist historian. Why are there so many?
Another sour grapes victim..typical.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickAt the moment, the only carrier is RCN. RCN has something like 400k subscribers. If you believe the statistics, somewhere between 3-6% of the population is gay. At the top end, that's about 24,000 people in RCN's subscriber range. Figure many of those will be couples living together, thus sharing their cable, and you're not gonna get all 24,000 of those people to subscribe, so I'd say a GENEROUS estimate is currently around 5,000 potential subscriptions.
Now then, *if* they actually do sign up with some more carriers, you can obviously expand that. But until you get confirmation, 'millions' of subscribers isn't realistic.
Now then, that one pumper guy said that there would be another PR with confirmation of a major carrier before the end of the month, which happens to be today. If you're inclined to believe him, so be it, but I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Expect the worst, and you'll be ecstatic if it goes well. Expect the best, and you're only setting yourself up to be let down...
-R
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
Once again Boy Blunder is being negative...the absolute fact of the matter is there are millions of gays in the US and we only have RCN AT THIS TIME. The future is bright as this is a "baby network" that is growing.
We are not relying on RCN alone anyway. there will be more carriers before the year is up. The domino effect will quickly start as soon as the first one falls.
IMHO
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Not so fast slickAt the moment, the only carrier is RCN. RCN has something like 400k subscribers. If you believe the statistics, somewhere between 3-6% of the population is gay. At the top end, that's about 24,000 people in RCN's subscriber range. Figure many of those will be couples living together, thus sharing their cable, and you're not gonna get all 24,000 of those people to subscribe, so I'd say a GENEROUS estimate is currently around 5,000 potential subscriptions.
Now then, *if* they actually do sign up with some more carriers, you can obviously expand that. But until you get confirmation, 'millions' of subscribers isn't realistic.
Now then, that one pumper guy said that there would be another PR with confirmation of a major carrier before the end of the month, which happens to be today. If you're inclined to believe him, so be it, but I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. Expect the worst, and you'll be ecstatic if it goes well. Expect the best, and you're only setting yourself up to be let down...
-R
"I'm RobinO, and I approve this message"
FYI: Sour grapes: things which persons affect to despise because they can not possess them; -- in allusion to Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
quote:
Originally posted by kommoncents:
Another sour grapes victim..typical.
[This message has been edited by Just Looking (edited September 30, 2004).]
) Miss chatting and cutting up with you all though! Hope everyone is doing well...glad Pharm and Love the Market made it through the last hurricane!! Yuck...oops, off topic...again
Have a good afternoon and will try to stay mostly in lurk-mode.
Have a good afternoon and see you all tomorrow.
i come in here every night to read your comments every day you put a smile on my face lol
please dont be too quiet i coulnt handle that. lol
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Hi Penny-Trader...hope all is well with the training...In response to your post...well, that is one of the reasons I'm not posting much these days...The tone has changed, which is fine.... But, my personality clashes with the new tone, so thought it best to take a step back. I don't want to bug anyone (too late?Hope everyone is doing well...glad Pharm and Love the Market made it through the last hurricane!! Yuck...oops, off topic...again
Have a good afternoon and will try to stay mostly in lurk-mode.
Have a good afternoon and see you all tomorrow.
You're too kind! No, I understand, but everyone is so serious right now. QBID is hovering in the 004's and I just have to cut-up. Thinking I'm a bad influence on the heavy-duty DD'ers, and the more 'focussed' investor...I am like the QUEEN of tangents!
Good talking to you Rod!
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Hi Penny-Trader...hope all is well with the training...In response to your post...well, that is one of the reasons I'm not posting much these days...The tone has changed, which is fine.... But, my personality clashes with the new tone, so thought it best to take a step back. I don't want to bug anyone (too late?Hope everyone is doing well...glad Pharm and Love the Market made it through the last hurricane!! Yuck...oops, off topic...again
Have a good afternoon and will try to stay mostly in lurk-mode.
Have a good afternoon and see you all tomorrow.
I like to read your post Sunny. Don't stop because of a few bad apples.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Just about to turn off the computer...lolYou're too kind! No, I understand, but everyone is so serious right now. QBID is hovering in the 004's and I just have to cut-up. Thinking I'm a bad influence on the heavy-duty DD'ers, and the more 'focussed' investor...I am like the QUEEN of tangents!
Good talking to you Rod!
FYI: Sour grapes: things which persons affect to despise because they can not possess them; -- in allusion to Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
He also likes to misuse the term, "Monday morning quaterback" I believe he actually calls it "Monday night quaterback". Another FYI Kommunist- that term is used when someone uses hindsight to comment on something that has already happened, thus making it easier to try and play it off like they predicted it. You have repeatedly misused it to refer to people questioning the future of QBID.
[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited September 30, 2004).]
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
LOL
quote:
Originally posted by kommoncents:
Once again Boy Blunder is being negative...the absolute fact of the matter is there are millions of gays in the US and we only have RCN AT THIS TIME. The future is bright as this is a "baby network" that is growing.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Another fascist. Extraordinary! LOLFYI: Sour grapes: things which persons affect to despise because they can not possess them; -- in allusion to Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
Another communist disguised as a lover of democracy!!! Still crying over spilled milk and sour grapes are you?? Typical victim role...whooaa is me....whooaa is me.....
[This message has been edited by Just Looking (edited September 30, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Looking:
[b]Another fascist. Extraordinary! LOLFYI: Sour grapes: things which persons affect to despise because they can not possess them; -- in allusion to Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
He also likes to misuse the term, "Monday morning quaterback" I believe he actually calls it "Monday night quaterback". Another FYI Kommunist- that term is used when someone uses hindsight to comment on something that has already happened, thus making it easier to try and play it off like they predicted it. You have repeatedly misused it to refer to people questioning the future of QBID.
[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited September 30, 2004).]
This BLOG is a community of individuals with interest in QBID. Stock is the subject but how can this be a community without some knowlege and concern about and for it's members. Mixed with the questions, replys, DD and other information, (positive or negative), it is of interest to learn a bit about folks. As for those who are personally critical or abusive...well in a real community they are delt with in various fashions....Here they can just be ignored........
It's sad to watch this community sort of disolve over time and hope that those who have stopped posting will start again......
As I said , I'm just a lurker, not too knowlegable regards the market or pennies but this board (community) has been (and still can be) quite informative.
JMHO
Pieman
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Just about to turn off the computer...lolYou're too kind! No, I understand, but everyone is so serious right now. QBID is hovering in the 004's and I just have to cut-up. Thinking I'm a bad influence on the heavy-duty DD'ers, and the more 'focussed' investor...I am like the QUEEN of tangents!
Good talking to you Rod!
Sunny, you are the voice of optimism and an intregal part of this thread. I wish you would come over to the MLON thread and cheer me up. Whiz is doing his best, but you could definitly help.
quote:
Originally posted by kommoncents:
Damn pinkos! Thought we got 'em all in 'Nam!
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Did I say all that? LOL
I made the quarterback comment, but it showed up like you did, sorry! I was responding to your first post about his misuse of terms. I went back and edited it so it shows better that it is from me.
quote:
Originally posted by Pieman99:
Just a lurker with an observation here.This BLOG is a community of individuals with interest in QBID. Stock is the subject but how can this be a community without some knowlege and concern about and for it's members. Mixed with the questions, replys, DD and other information, (positive or negative), it is of interest to learn a bit about folks. As for those who are personally critical or abusive...well in a real community they are delt with in various fashions....Here they can just be ignored........
It's sad to watch this community sort of disolve over time and hope that those who have stopped posting will start again......
As I said , I'm just a lurker, not too knowlegable regards the market or pennies but this board (community) has been (and still can be) quite informative.JMHO
Pieman
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Looking:
[b]Another fascist. Extraordinary! LOLFYI: Sour grapes: things which persons affect to despise because they can not possess them; -- in allusion to Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
He also likes to misuse the term, "Monday morning quaterback" I believe he actually calls it "Monday night quaterback". Another FYI Kommunist- that term is used when someone uses hindsight to comment on something that has already happened, thus making it easier to try and play it off like they predicted it. You have repeatedly misused it to refer to people questioning the future of QBID.
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Once again you are speaking out of the other orifice... I have never misstated the future of QBID and yes there are Monday Morning Quarterbacks...those that wake up Monday morning (football is played on Sunday, you obviously are to intelligent for this knowledge) and continue to QBID as a loser (U4,YOU, and RobinO). I have no doubts QBID will have success as the major hurdle of getting on the air is done.....get a life!
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
I made the quarterback comment, but it showed up like you did, sorry! I was responding to your first post about his misuse of terms. I went back and edited it so it shows better that it is from me.
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Kommoncents, don't you know that Bush is against all things gay?LOL
Why do I care if Bush is against all Gays? This is business and you are mixing politics with it. There is a demand for a product and someone who is taking the risk to provide the service. Get over it.
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
Once again I am speaking out of the other orifice...
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
There is a demand for a product and someone who is taking the risk to provide the service.
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Tell me, kommoncents, why are you investing in a gay TV network? LOL
I DID NOT POST THIS. THIS HAS BEEN CUT AND PASTED. I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT POST THIS.
DO YOU WORK FOR DAN RATHER?
regardless, makes me happy to live here.
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
that may be true that 3% of the population is gay but you also have to factor in that RCN is located in some of the largest Gay comunities around, such as SanFran. where close to half of there subscribers could fall into the target audience.We are not relying on RCN alone anyway. there will be more carriers before the year is up. The domino effect will quickly start as soon as the first one falls.
IMHO
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Originally posted by RobinO:
As well you should be. Being curious is the best thing to be. The problem here is that no one is curious about anything, except people who post 'negative' information. You need to be curious about everything, not just the things you don't want to hear.
And as for my opinion on this stock.. I think the potential is enormous. Huge. Massive. But I don't think Frank O and Co. have what it takes to make the potential a reality. I did keep a handful of shares around just in case though.
-R
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DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND QUIT YOUR BITCHIN' TO SAVE EVERYONE FROM THEMSELF.......YOU'RE JUST LIKE JOHN KERRY WITH HIS NEGATIVITY AND CONSTANT BROKEN RECORD MONDAY NIGHT QUARTERBACKING.....YOU ARE BASHING THE STOCK FOR A STOCK THAT HAS MADE YOU LOTS OF MONEY AND HAS BEEN A HUGE UNDERTAKING TO GET OFF THE GROUND...THANKS.
MMMMM... My other oriface huh? Did you forget that it is easy to go back and find what people have posted in the past. Need I say more?
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Ah. Alrighty then. LOL
U WANT IT WHERE?
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
I DID NOT POST THIS. THIS HAS BEEN CUT AND PASTED. I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT POST THIS.DO YOU WORK FOR DAN RATHER?
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
U WANT IT WHERE?
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
kommoncents
Member posted September 24, 2004 18:57
Exactly....to many monday morning and monday night quarterbacks digging up negative information.....thank you.
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
RIGHT HERE SWEETY. LOL
I'm sorry , I don't like ugly women....or men in that fashion....might want to try gay.com
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Originally posted by weepingjester:
actually, the stats estimate that approximately 1 in 10 are queer. that would make it 10% and would raise those numbers dramatically. also, penny-trader is right...rcn is in more urban markets, so the numbers will be higher. i heard on talk radio about a year ago that it is closer to 1 in 4-5 men in san francisco. for those of you in the area, i think it was on radio alice (97.3), but it's been a while ago.regardless, makes me happy to live here.
I'm not Gay but my husband is.
Clyde(Male)
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
Exactly....to many monday morning and monday night quarterbacks digging up negative information.....thank you.
Your welcome. I'm thinking we should starting calling you the Iraqi Minister of Information, since you are so consistant.
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
My favorite site is gay.com
Keep up with your rhetoric as much as you like. I know what I have and I know what I've made this year....so.....keep bashing away!
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
Your welcome. I'm thinking we should starting calling you the Iraqi Minister of Information, since you are so consistant.
Just call me John Kerry...
LOL
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
Let me guess Kommunist, you didn't post that either, right? I'm sure you are probably going back and editing your post on the last thread right now, so I brought it back up to this one for you. We should probably leave him alone JL, he is starting to type in all caps, like U4.
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
Your welcome. I'm thinking we should starting calling you the Iraqi Minister of Information, since you are so consistant.
Do you mean Bagdad Bob?
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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Do you mean Bagdad Bob?
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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Do you mean Bagdad Bob?
Yes!! Wasen't that guy funny? You know they made a doll of him that you can pull the string and it says some of his famous lines.
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
Yes!! Wasen't that guy funny? You know they made a doll of him that you can pull the string and it says some of his famous lines.
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
Vote for John Kerry!
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
That guy ruled! Talk about an optimist! LOL
Bagdad Bob owns QBID and he said it would go to $50.00
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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Bagdad Bob owns QBID and he said it would go to $50.00
Blast from the past
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Originally posted by kommoncents:
Nice manipulation "Just".....good job cutting and pasting....you definitely work for CBS or the DNC chairman....and no, I'm still here laughing and holding my 6.75MM shares........
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Originally posted by qnique:
NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS**** WE GONNA GET THIS MONEY http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
While the games will be televised throughout much of the country, they may not be as easy to find for local viewers. Q Television, which launched earlier this month, has yet to ink a distribution deal with Comcast Corp., the citys largest cable provider. It does, however, have an agreement with No. 2 provider RCN Corp., which serves most of the citys lakefront.
~BB
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Originally posted by betting babe:
QUOTE:While the games will be televised throughout much of the country, they may not be as easy to find for local viewers. Q Television, which launched earlier this month, has yet to ink a distribution deal with Comcast Corp., the citys largest cable provider. It does, however, have an agreement with [b]No. 2 provider RCN Corp., which serves most of the citys lakefront.
~BB[/B]
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
PootPoot has posted on here before. He made that website and actually posted the link on here a while back. If I remember right, he was trying to get Q to hire him to rework their site.
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Originally posted by Poot Poot:
I was just playing around with HTML and tried to put together a site that is a little more organized than the Q site....nothing professional... just trying to learn. I'm not trying to hire Q. I sent the link to Q to see if they wanted it for free until they get a REAL professional one in place. Hopefully they are in the process of updating their site. I'm sure they will....
Thanks for the correction. Your site does look much better than the official one.
Chicago Gay Games Signs Multi-million
Deal for TV/Radio Broadcast Rights
Letter of Intent Signed with California-based Q Television Network
CHICAGO, IL Chicago organizers of Gay Games VII today announced a multi-million dollar cash and barter deal assigning television and radio broadcast rights to the Q Television network. Q Television Network and Chicago Games, Inc. (CGI) signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) marking the final negotiation period for an agreement transferring the media rights to the California-based cable network.
The LOI outlines the broad terms of the proposed deal, including broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advanced Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events from 15 to 22 July 2006. As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, will unscramble its signal during live coverage of the Gay Games in 2006. Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Televisions cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
This board seems to be in a waiting mode.Most are holding long and have maxed on buying.
On slow volume days, we seem to get more chatty. Overall, the board is focused.
Some members check the board for info and get back to whatever they were doing.
When they want to post--they post.
This is a public forum.
IMHO, everyone should feel free to post or lurk.
Everyone will never be in full agreement about everything.
I too miss reading posts from several members who have contributed much, but I think they may just be busy with other boards.
As I have said before, I am truly grateful that I found Allstocks which led me to QBID.
GLTA Go QBID!
We are kinda like family. Pass the potatoes please
...As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers...
~BB
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Originally posted by betting babe:
do they know something we don't know??!!...As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and [b]other providers...
~BB[/B]
It's just the tip of a very very large iceberg.
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Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Looks to me that the Q is starting to pull ahead of HereTV, LOGO, and Pridevision.
I would bet they will be sending their feed out to all four corners of the globe......
There isnt going to be no Friday selloff on this stock!!!!!!
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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
Not really following the qbid thread anymore. But I am wondering what it is that anyone sees in this particular stock right now? Don't get me wrong I am over in tfct land (just with profits) waiting it out, but it just seems, to me, that there is more reason for waiting. So pretty much, this thing launched, and the pps has not budged? I dont get it, anyone want to explain this so I dont have to read over the last 10 pages of threads to get it? If not don't worry, it does not make a difference to me if I know or don't, just board and wondered for a second... anyway though, GLTA who are in this one...
The station launched and as far as I understand is only in SF right now and will be anouncing its nationwide launch soon. Also we have no reports yet of how many subscribers there are , etc... Until they issue that information I know I will be holding....
"...As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, will unscramble its signal during live coverage of the Gay Games in 2006. Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Televisions cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
#1. We all know QTN will be with other cable carriers.
#2. While standard news coverage will happen, it is possible they will create awareness for QTN by mentioning the carriage of the event by Q Television Network.
Huge.
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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
famtrecrew, perfect timeing, I was about to get off of the computer... I did not know it was not nationwide yet... thanks for the respinse... Good Luck...
No problem. IMHO I think we will see a press release in the next week or so with some info about nationwide coverage and possible a new carrier. That is just my opinion.
ROFLMAO. I can't take it. Like watching 7th graders. LOL
PIEMAN! I'll drink to what you said.
Lil
WinsumLosesum
Member posted September 16, 2004 09:49
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Here's a bullet list of most of marco's statements, just so they're easier to keep track of.
QBID will be off the pinks really soon
announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month
(check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week
major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday
shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term
frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times
emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters
QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock
there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex
if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move
i have palced all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals
they are live in other cities but the hurricane has taken out the southwest transponder. they will have it back up in texas on friday thanks to Leonard firestone
own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now
in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")
QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance
its going to be an overview of the company that is faxed and emailed, i have copy do you want to see it. give me your emai
right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch
qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week
I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon
QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or firday.
i talked to frank olsen for 25 minutes today they were on the air for 3 days, ignore these losers. here is another prediction network will be full airing by Friday or latest over the weekend. if you doubt me call Frank olsen yourself
760-323-4455. Thats his direct phone number
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I haven't posted in a while, but read most of your comments. I am concerned, as most of you, where the stock price is going. We can speculate, estimate and gestimate. It never comes the way we like to see it. I made a couple of observations. Please do not take them as bashing. I am also invested in QTN as most of you are. However, some of QTNs moves and press releases have me worried.
As some of you know, I am working with Network Teleports (NTI) in New Orleans. NTI is uplinking QTNs signal to the satellite since June of this year and still does TODAY. Recent press releases claim that QTN has migrated its satellite signal to Firestone Communications in Texas and is once again on the air. This statement is very confusing and boldly not true. NTI never stopped broadcasting QTNs signal to the satellite.
The uplink process for video and audio is done in an digital MPEG2 format. Digital MPEG2 has become the industries standard in recent years. It requires special equipment to receive this satellite feed and can not be done with a common big backyard dish, DirecTV or Dish Network receiver. They all work in different standards.
Not to become to technical, RCN in San Francisco has digital equipment to receive digital MPEG2 video, but not the audio part. Therefore, Firestone was involved to turn NTI's satellite feed around and re-broadcast it in an format that is compatible for RCN in San Francisco.
It is troublesome to me how QTN states facts in their press releases. In this particular incident the readers are mislead or not told the truth. For accuracy sake, QTNs satellite signal did not migrate to Firestone Communications, but is re-transmitted by Firestone Communications.
In my humble opinion, accuracy and honesty is necessary to attract and keep investors.
This raises the question on how accurate and honest are ALL of QTNs press releases?!?
Again, I'm not bashing it ----- I am concerned.
Lil, seventh graders are like an alien form of humans.
At least let us be eighth graders! LOL
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Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
Sorry, Just needed to let you know, if infact you do address me, use my name or my SN or just simply quote me and not use any of your pet names you may dream up.
K?
Thanks, Lil
Sure thing Champ. I don't suppose the 30 pages of people talking about masturbating with turkey basters and chocolate pickles offended you did it? Oh wait, those were the cheerleaders... Sorry sugar.
-R
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Originally posted by betting babe:
Interesting Facts:RCN currently has [b]--> 388,650 <--subscribed customers, but they also still state that:
RCN currently has more than --> 1 million customer connections <-- in the Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington, D.C., metropolitan markets.
In my opinion, once they regain customer confidence and restructure, the subscriber base will grow quickly.
Not a bad start for an upstart network like Q to partner with.[/B]
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
There you go again.Potential customers means "possible"--possible customers. QTN has millions of POTENTIAL customers.
Oh in that case, let me go dance in the streets because I could POTENTIALLY win the Powerball for $250,000,000... woohoo!
-R
Enter Keyword:
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Sep 24, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Q Television Network (Pink Sheets: QBID) announced today that it has successfully moved its satellite connection from New Orleans, LA to Fort Worth, TX. Programming has now resumed in San Francisco via RCN on channel 255.
The satellite move had been necessary due to signal difficulties the Network has been having. The difficulties were believed to be weather related since prior testing of the signal showed no interference.
"We are pleased to be broadcasting the network in San Francisco," said Frank Olsen President and CEO of Q Television Network. "We do not anticipate any further problems with our signal and look forward to broadcasting to other RCN affiliates in Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago and Washington D.C. as soon as possible."
I do not know if there were or were not weather problems involved in receiving the signal--"believed to be" at what point in time?
He does not address RCN's audio problems. Perhaps that's why the audio cell on the satelite chart was blank until recently.
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Originally posted by King Crimson:
posting this over here...ron...nice to see more people besides firefly, betting babe, suzainiee, and a few others interested in the satellite.
you know, of course, that this q thing is such a huge scam and hoax perpetrated so intricately and elaborately that they (the perpetrators) have gone so far as to actually utilize bandwidth on a real orbiting satellite...Intelsat Americas 7.
...saying this dripping with sarcasm. LOFLif anyone has any interest whatever in this silly ol' satellite thing, here's a few pertinent links for ya. and y'know, there's all kinds of things you can click on and find out at each of these sites..
http://www.intelsat.com/special/loral/index.asp
http://www.intelsat.com/special/loral/satellites/isat7.asp
http://www.loralskynet.com/glb_fleet_7.asp
http://www.lyngsat.com/ia7.html
http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvsat/ia7.html
http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvsat/ia7_2.htmlthe "A" accesses directly the related channel contact information at the LyngSatฎ Address website.
Originally posted by ron4498:
HELLO ALL: DID YOU GUYS SEE THE NEW Q_CHANNEL LOGO NOW ON THE SATELLITE WEB SITES> LOOK !!!!
LOOK at all THREE LOGO Q-Channel satellite web sites. Looking good people$$$$$
LOOK-Our LOGO is now up on our Satellite web site, LOOKING GOOD PEOPLE:[This message has been edited by King Crimson (edited September 25, 2004).]
Thanks again King
Well, there goes another statement! QTN's signal is not scrambled, it is in the clear!
The signal is transmitted in a digital form, not common to household satellite receivers. Basically, you need a commercial satellite receiver to receive this signal. These receivers are common among cable companies and broadcasters. In other words, ESPN could pick up QTN's signal right now if they wanted to and do not have to wait for QTN to unscramble it!
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Oh in that case, let me go dance in the streets because I could POTENTIALLY win the Powerball for $250,000,000... woohoo!
-R
Actually, the PR said that the signal was now from NO to Texas to SF.
The writing structure of our PR's have not always been the best--some revisions have been needed.
Is the signal airing in SF?
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Originally posted by betting babe:
Yes, RobinO, you can..
[b] but first you have to buy the ticket ;-) [/B]
Teehee Yes, but I'm not the type to count my eggs before they've hatched or whatever that old saying is...Just sets you up for failure.
-R
"Mission Accomplished"
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Teehee
-R
"Mission Accomplished"
This is a network dedicated to an audience that has been waiting for it a very long time.
The potential is there, and no amount of "crowing" from you changes anything.
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
I do not know if there were or were not weather problems involved in receiving the signal--"believed to be" at what point in time?He does not address RCN's audio problems. Perhaps that's why the audio cell on the satelite chart was blank until recently.[/B]
It was never an weather related issue. Satellite C-band is very little, if not at all, effected by weather. A bid dish can send and receive through the biggest rain storm without loosing the picture. That's why most broadcasters use C-band. the rules change for the "little dish". Rain has a great effect on DirecTV and Dish Network since it is transmitted in Ku-band frequencies.
You are right, he did not address RCN's audio problems. Why the audio cell on the satellite chart is blank is beyond my knowledge. Most of Lyngsats's information is compiled by volunteers who scan the sky's.
Again, this press release is not truthful. Are all the others?
Is the signal sent from your location to Texas and on the SF?
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He will take the negatives and develop.
Just heard that on "everyone loves Raymond"
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
Is the signal sent from your location to Texas and on the SF?
Yes it is! RCN could pick it up directly if they would have the right equipment.
Both sides, RCN and NTI, are working to solve this problem. The question is, which audio format is more common with cable companies? I believe someone is surveying cable companies across the country to determine the most common systems they use. Someone has to make an adjustment.
If Cox Cable, Comcast and/or Time Warner uses our system, RCN has to update. If it is the other way around, we will make changes. We are ready to transmit in either format.
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Originally posted by firefly:
So that makes this problem fixable or a non issue. Am I correct in this assumption?
It raises the question of honesty in QTN's press releases!
For now, my interest is
(1) QTN is airing in SF
and
(2) Will it air in New York tomorrow or sometime later in October?
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but I think it raises the question of the UNDERSTANDING of the technicalities of the broadcasting industry on the part of the person that WRITES the press releases.
~BB
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Originally posted by MS_GulfCoast:
It raises the question of honesty in QTN's press releases!
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Originally posted by betting babe:
MS, I understand your point..but I think it raises the question of the UNDERSTANDING of the technicalities of the broadcasting industry on the part of the person that WRITES the press releases.
~BB
Rock Star Melissa Etheridge
Signs Up To Support the Gay Games
CHICAGO, IL -- Internationally acclaimed rock-star Melissa Etheridge signed on today as the newest Gay Games Ambassador, joining a growing list of athletes, artists, activists and celebrities supporting the movement in advance of Gay Games VII, scheduled for 15-22 July 2006 in Chicago. Registration for the quadrennial event opened 1 July 2004 online at GayGamesChicago.org.
The Federation of Gay Games (FGG) made the announcement jointly with Chicago Games, Inc., the host of Gay Games VII. ?Melissa Etheridge is a cultural icon and highly regarded proponent of human rights,? said FGG co-president Roberto Mantaci, from his home in Paris.
http://www.chicago2006.org/
The lastest information out from Q looks interesting! Appears that Frank and his team are on the move and finding original material to air. I can swing with that.
Ms_Gulfcoast...I tend to agree with you about the complete truthfulness about Frank's pr's...but the overall 'picture' is clear...Q Television is making progress. I can get happy about that!
The statement that cable carriers are all being asked this question implies a lot of confusion within the industry.
Whoooooo.........thanks Ron.
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Originally posted by firefly:
Sorry ms but i see no proof from your statements. If you could supply I would be very interested.
Thank You
If you need proof call Intelsat Americas and ask who uplinks to IA7, Transponder 1, 3731 H. After all, they have controll of the satellite.
Feeling good vibes tonight! Bet tomorrow we see the pps pop a bit, especially heading into a weekend. Monday could bring more news.
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Originally posted by sunny:
Would love to see Melissa Etheridge on QTN. We need that kind of press coverage...a g/l channel that attracts celebrities like her, Rosie, and others.Feeling good vibes tonight! Bet tomorrow we see the pps pop a bit, especially heading into a weekend. Monday could bring more news.
I would agree Sunny, tomorrow might be another good day to flip this.
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Originally posted by qnique:
NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS**** WE GONNA GET THIS MONEY http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
Qnique!
Good job bringing that to the board. Kind of gives some insight on the fact that we're going to be around for awhile. I had a minimum two year time horizon on my core holding when I first bought in Feb. I'm resetting the clock as of today! Oct/Nov 2006 is the earliest I will sell any part of my core. Unless we hit a buck or two sooner.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
I don't own MLON, but if you want company, just yell out...LOL
...we still "gonna get this money?"
Thinking we will...at least some tomorrow. I'm gonna be flipping this one, too.
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Originally posted by betting babe:
MS, I understand your point..but I think it raises the question of the UNDERSTANDING of the technicalities of the broadcasting industry on the part of the person that WRITES the press releases.
~BB
Well, why would they write about an weather problem when it is an audio problem?
Why would they write about migrating the signal? Migrating means to move from one place to another.
Either the press release writer does not know the job or is not told the truth.
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Originally posted by firefly:
Got a number or area code?
Should be on their web site!
Some of the PR's have been a little bit on the clumsy side.
You have been reading the board for sometime.
How many time have you read discussions about, "Did Frank mean this or did he mean that?"
Weeks later, someone would post, "Oh, that's what he meant."
Some read the same PR as positive and others read the PR as negative.
Paper talks--we just can't hear the intonations.
HALF A TRILLION DOLLAR target, .05% of which is $250,000,000.oo!
That's right!
POINT ZERO FIVE PERCENT OF $500,000,000,000.oo = TWO HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.
If we generate that kind of business revenue on just a yearly basis this stock will be trading for a couple dollars a share if not more.
This is just one reason why people can't find a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network that trades for less than a dollar a share.
I think you're faster than most & also think you have more shares than I do.
Good luck to you cause as you've pointed out,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Since the change to digital there are no standards. Some cable companies haven't even updated to digital yet. Try to buy a High Definition TV today. It has to support 3 formats just to receive your local broadcasters.
So this has me wondering about Frank and why Q didn't put this news out...I'm thinking that he might combine this news with other news in a press release to show how QTN is accomplishing its goals. Just would LOVE to know WHEN we'll hear from Frankie...He can just whisper in my ear and tell me ALL the good stuff and I won't tell a soul...okay, I'd only tell you guys.
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quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I just got done reading the book, "Irational Exuberance" by Robert Shiller. It a good book about stock market bubbles and the psychology behind the market when it moves. I think the sections on market psychology are especially pertinent in regards to penny stocks. It a good read if you have the time. (Sorry for the off topic post)
'night.
Tracy Baim, Co-vice chair of Chicago Games Inc.s board, says the dealis for a seven-figure cash consideration. It also includes an agreement to air shows promoting the games through their July 2006 launch.
Ms. Baim says Q Television will broadcast the games to at least 150 U.S markets, and possibly overseas. The 2002 games, held in Sydney, Australia, were not broadcast outside of the Sydney metropolitan area.
...sounds like the q's got some money, ad spots promoting, 150 markets ??? overseas???
...q sure is gettin' round, huh
...maybe frank's keeping things on the "q-t"
...good vibes sunny.........
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quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
See, Firefly, your 'ding' was right on cue!'night.
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies." http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13881&sd=10/01/04
Well, there goes another statement! QTN's signal is not scrambled, it is in the clear!
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Pardon me ms gulfcoast but the most recent pr re:Chicago 2006 Gay Games was not put out by QTN. In addition the term unscrambled may be easier for the public to grasp than a detailed explaination of how QTN is usually a premium channel but during the Gay Games they will make the signal available to all. Been lurking and appreciate the insight you seem to have regarding Q Television Network.
quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunny:
[b]See, Firefly, your 'ding' was right on cue!'night.
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Friday, October 01, 2004
Gay Games VII and Q Television Network make a deal
The Chicago-based organizers of Gay Games VII announced Thursday that they have signed a letter of intent to provide television and radio broadcast rights for the event to the California-based Q Television Network. The broad terms of the cash-and-barter deal include broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advance Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events. (Gay Games VII is scheduled to take place July 15-22, 2006.) Subscriber-based Q Television would unscramble its signal during live Gay Games coverage, giving basic-cable viewers an opportunity to view the programs. "It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, Q Television president and CEO, in a statement. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games, and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies." http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13881&sd=10/01/04 [/B][/QUOTE]
Great News. Lovin' our Q!
And Sunny, that's miss "Champ" or "Sugar" to you.
LOL
What an A$$ we have here.
Missin your posts. Come back in and I will too.
Hey Sam!
Remember our beloved buddy U4TSAF2??
Remember his quote from back in the day? -->
"MARCH 3, 2006
L2 QBID
4.00X1
3.99X3
3.98X8
RESISTANCE IS $4.00 AND IF WE CAN BREAK-THRU THAT, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!"
Check out the date of the games and U4's date!! LOL!! Pretty Funny!!
quote:
Originally posted by xj-ken:
I was reading thru that article again and the date got my attention this time!Remember our beloved buddy U4TSAF2??
Remember his quote from back in the day? -->[b]"MARCH 3, 2006
L2 QBID
4.00X1
3.99X3
3.98X8RESISTANCE IS $4.00 AND IF WE CAN BREAK-THRU THAT, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!"
Check out the date of the games and U4's date!! LOL!! Pretty Funny!!
I'll drink to that.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:Teehee
-R
"Mission Accomplished"
The Federation of Gay Games (FGG) made the announcement jointly with Chicago Games, Inc., the host of Gay Games VII. Melissa Etheridge is a cultural icon and highly regarded proponent of human rights, said FGG co-president Roberto Mantaci, from his home in Paris.
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Robin0, a business plan includes "potential customers". I used the term "potential audience".This is a network dedicated to an audience that has been waiting for it a very long time.
The potential is there, and no amount
of "crowing" from you changes anything.
Besides THE GAY COMMUNITIES of the MAJOR CITIES will here about QTN and then SUBSCRIBE to RCN.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Thanks Qnique for bringing this news to the Board! I actually read it on "Hot Stocks for All." Then, I raced over here to see if it was posted, and of course it was....we still "gonna get this money?"
Thinking we will...at least some tomorrow. I'm gonna be flipping this one, too.
BE CAREFULL FLIPPING this one. Monday could be the day we get the TW carriage PR.
dz
Eric Johnston, PlanetOut Network
Wednesday, September 29, 2004 / 05:22 PM
A new report finds the U.S. gay and lesbian consumer market is both diverse and economically significant, prompting a growing interest from the corporate world.
The fourth edition of "The U.S. Gay and Lesbian Market" report was released this week by the market research firm Packaged Facts and the LGBT-focused marketing firm Witeck-Combs Communications.
According to the report, buying power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population is projected to reach $610 billion in 2005.
Chance Mitchell, from the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, called the report's buying power projections "right on," and said companies are showing "an overwhelming interest."
"I think the (LGBT) consumer is going to start thinking about companies that are buying back from our community, not just marketing to our community," he said. Mitchell told the PlanetOut Network that IBM, Wells Fargo, Motorola, Intel, JPMorganChase, Cendant and Wyndham Hotels & Resorts are some of the companies that are taking steps to purchase goods and services from LGBT-owned businesses.
The report also revealed a high degree of diversity within the gay and lesbian population -- including singles, families, seniors and people of color.
At least 2 million gays are approaching or have already reached retirement age, according to the report. By 2020, some 5.7 million, or 25 percent of the gay community, will be 50 or older.
The report also estimates that there are 1.8 million gay and lesbian households with children, and there are approximately 2.6 million children living with gay parents.
The report examines Census data on same-sex households as well as research on single gay men and lesbians to conclude that race and ethnicity among the LGBT population appears to mirror the general U.S. population.
The complexity of the gay and lesbian population reveals that "day care and taxes and retirement accounts occupy as much a priority role as travel, fashion and home decor once did," according to Don Montuori, an editor for Packaged Facts.
"Gay households should never be over-simplified," said Bob Witeck, CEO of Witeck-Combs Communications. "Growing trends of acceptance and respect throughout society make it possible -- even essential -- for more gays and lesbians to safely self-identify and to vote not only with their ballots but also with their dollars in the market."
"The U.S. Gay and Lesbian Market" provides updated analysis of the demographic profiles, consumer behaviors, and purchasing power of the estimated 15 million adult gay men and lesbians in the United States
$610 billion thats a lot of potential!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Report: LGBT buying power to hit $610B
http://www.planetout.com/news/election/article.html?2004/09/29/2Eric Johnston, PlanetOut Network
Wednesday, September 29, 2004 / 05:22 PMA new report finds the U.S. gay and lesbian consumer market is both diverse and economically significant, prompting a growing interest from the corporate world.
The fourth edition of "The U.S. Gay and Lesbian Market" report was released this week by the market research firm Packaged Facts and the LGBT-focused marketing firm Witeck-Combs Communications.
According to the report, buying power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population is projected to reach $610 billion in 2005.
Chance Mitchell, from the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, called the report's buying power projections "right on," and said companies are showing "an overwhelming interest."
"I think the (LGBT) consumer is going to start thinking about companies that are buying back from our community, not just marketing to our community," he said. Mitchell told the PlanetOut Network that IBM, Wells Fargo, Motorola, Intel, JPMorganChase, Cendant and Wyndham Hotels & Resorts are some of the companies that are taking steps to purchase goods and services from LGBT-owned businesses.
The report also revealed a high degree of diversity within the gay and lesbian population -- including singles, families, seniors and people of color.
At least 2 million gays are approaching or have already reached retirement age, according to the report. By 2020, some 5.7 million, or 25 percent of the gay community, will be 50 or older.
The report also estimates that there are 1.8 million gay and lesbian households with children, and there are approximately 2.6 million children living with gay parents.
The report examines Census data on same-sex households as well as research on single gay men and lesbians to conclude that race and ethnicity among the LGBT population appears to mirror the general U.S. population.
The complexity of the gay and lesbian population reveals that "day care and taxes and retirement accounts occupy as much a priority role as travel, fashion and home decor once did," according to Don Montuori, an editor for Packaged Facts.
"Gay households should never be over-simplified," said Bob Witeck, CEO of Witeck-Combs Communications. "Growing trends of acceptance and respect throughout society make it possible -- even essential -- for more gays and lesbians to safely self-identify and to vote not only with their ballots but also with their dollars in the market."
"The U.S. Gay and Lesbian Market" provides updated analysis of the demographic profiles, consumer behaviors, and purchasing power of the estimated 15 million adult gay men and lesbians in the United States
Have a great day. I feel secure with my QBID investment!
quote:
Originally posted by xj-ken:
I was reading thru that article again and the date got my attention this time!Remember our beloved buddy U4TSAF2??
Remember his quote from back in the day? -->[b]"MARCH 3, 2006
L2 QBID
4.00X1
3.99X3
3.98X8RESISTANCE IS $4.00 AND IF WE CAN BREAK-THRU THAT, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!"
Check out the date of the games and U4's date!! LOL!! Pretty Funny!!
Have a great day.
Lil
I just had to take a break from the forums. I was making it my priority and a lot of things weren't getting done in my life.
We'll be having a nice holiday.
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
1BigTip NICE to SEE YOU so bright and early
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 01, 2004).]
"Let the Games Begin"!!!
<b>"GO QBID"</b>
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I don't care how long I have to wait. Another few months and I pay less in taxes.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Sure thing Champ. I don't suppose the 30 pages of people talking about masturbating with turkey basters and chocolate pickles offended you did it? Oh wait, those were the cheerleaders... Sorry sugar.-R
UO (formerly know as the heckler RobinO)
UO - please play nice.
-C
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Mission Impossible
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited October 01, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
QUOTE:While the games will be televised throughout much of the country, they may not be as easy to find for local viewers. Q Television, which launched earlier this month, has yet to ink a distribution deal with Comcast Corp., the citys largest cable provider. It does, however, have an agreement with [b]No. 2 provider RCN Corp., which serves most of the citys lakefront.
~BB[/B]
THIS ARTICLE SURE MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO DEAL WITH COMCAST. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO BROADCAST WILL REEL COMCAST AND OTHER CABLE PROVIDERS IN!! YEEE HAAAA
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
well, technically, Pridevision and that new Pink channel in France could carry the feed from Q...
~BB
SINCE Q HAS EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS OTHER NETWORKS WILL PAY BIG MONEY FOR THE FEED!! IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS?? YEEE HAAAA
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
THIS ARTICLE SURE MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO DEAL WITH COMCAST. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO BROADCAST WILL REEL COMCAST AND OTHER CABLE PROVIDERS IN!! YEEE HAAAA
Maybe Q can sell the rights to ESPN in the future. Probably sounds crazy, but how many thought the X games were silly and now are on ESPN and ABC. Think about it.
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
SINCE Q HAS EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS OTHER NETWORKS WILL PAY BIG MONEY FOR THE FEED!! IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS?? YEEE HAAAA
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
if they don't hatch you can always boil 'em, dye 'em, and use 'em as decoration =)
~BB
Well in that case, I hope you requested stock certificates of your favorite pinkies. They might be useful for toilet paper, handkerchiefs, and bandages to stop the massive bleeding you're sure to take for 'investing' here
-R
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
MS, I understand your point..but I think it raises the question of the UNDERSTANDING of the technicalities of the broadcasting industry on the part of the person that WRITES the press releases.
~BB
EXACTLY--CAN I GET AN AMEN UP IN THE HOUSE??BB--YOU HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS.
THANKS GULF FOR BRING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. I FOR ONE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL'S BUT I BELIEVE YOU DO AND HAVE A REAL CONCERN.
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DIANA
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quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Speaking of counting your eggs before they've hatched... "Mission Accomplished"! LOL
Yes that was the point :^) GW is the king of counting his eggs before they've hatched, and he ended up with egg on his face because of it. And now he smells like rotten eggs. And now his credibility is a big goose egg. Ergh sorry...seem to have caught a bit of extended metaphor there.
-R
voice of Mr. Burns: "Eggcellent!"
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
I'll drink to that.
LIL,
DON'T LET ME DOWN!! I HAVE BEEN WAITING WITH ANTICIPATION FOR THE "CHAMP" REBUTTLE.
LOL I THINK THAT IS CALLED INSTIGATING. I WILL STOP.
GUYS--JUST LEAVE MY TURKEY BAISTER OUT OF THIS. IT'S JUST AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER. LOL
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DIANA
[This message has been edited by realityinc21 (edited October 01, 2004).]
It's not worth my time today.
Let's Rock Q!
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
He, She, It, what ever it is.......It's not worth my time today.
Let's Rock Q!
CHEERS!!
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DIANA
Q Television. GO QBID!!!!!! ------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
Our QBID is up to 0045!
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Well in that case, I hope you requested stock certificates of your favorite pinkies. They might be useful for toilet paper, handkerchiefs, and bandages to stop the massive bleeding you're sure to take for 'investing' here
-R
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Dont make comments like that on HSM, Sunny, RicPic the famous STOCK GOD will have you banned.
LOL
Throw me a bone - HSM?
LOL! GO QBID!!!
Sorry, I'll be good.
I actually have to take a little one to the doctor...Just having a little fun this morning. Looks like all is well with QBID this morning.
Would love to see 005! Maybe by closing.
[This message has been edited by sunny (edited October 01, 2004).]
GO QBID!!!!!!!! Bring Me The Money !!!!!
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
Watch out for Lucky43 and Rics_pic, Both Stock gods with Big heads and Bad hearts.
Pump and Dumpers, especially with newbies.
Could be a QMobile moment....It would be more interesting if George Michaels
(sp?) joined us. Heard he likes 'playing' in restrooms too.
I'm out...really. Have a great morning!
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Hmmmm. Men in speedos? Do swimmers slap each other on the buttocks like football players? As a female, I just find that fascinating...Women, as a general rule, don't pop each others' rear-ends...so just wondering if male swimmers do...That kind of tweaking could be fun to watch...and I'd bet there's no jiggle either.
YOUR A MESS!! MY KIND OF GIRL!!! CAN'T WAIT TO MEET ALL OFF YOU!!
Our QBID is up to 0045!
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DIANA
Press Release Source: Q Television Network
Chicago Gay Games Signs Multi-million Deal for TV/Radio Broadcast Rights
Friday October 1, 10:30 am ET
Letter of Intent Signed with California-based Q Television Network
CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 1, 2004--Chicago organizers of Gay Games VII today announced a multi-million dollar cash and barter deal assigning television and radio broadcast rights to the Q Television network. Q Television Network and Chicago Games, Inc. (CGI) signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) marking the final negotiation period for an agreement transferring the media rights to the California-based cable network.
The LOI outlines the broad terms of the proposed deal, including broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advanced Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events from 15 to 22 July 2006. As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, will unscramble its signal during live coverage of the Gay Games in 2006. Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Television's cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
"It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Q Television. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Steven Grunberg, Executive Vice-President of Programming for the Q Television Network, said "Q Television is all about 'community' and showing LGBT life at its best and most uplifting. We are honored to be chosen as the home for the Games and we will work hand-in-hand with Chicago's organizers to deliver one of the great LGBT events of the new millennium."
Chicago Outstripping Fundraising Projections
"In the six short months since Chicago was selected as host of Gay Games VII, we've made dramatic progress toward our financial goals and achieved fundraising benchmarks months, or in some cases, years ahead of schedule," said Tracy Baim, CGI Board Co-Vice Chair and Chair of the Fundraising Committee. "Once broadcast rights are assigned, we will have raised more than US$3 million in cash and in-kind resources." CGI announced a million-dollar sponsorship deal with PlanetOut Inc. on 20 September 2004.
"We believe that these rapid and positive developments are representative of the widespread support for the Gay Games mission and the Gay Games VII business model," said Dennis Sneyers, CGI Co-Chair. "Our business plan is built upon years of analysis and study by the international Federation of Gay Games (FGG), a return to the core of the Gay Games - an event that is laser-focused on the athletes, artists and fans. A conservative budget, expert community organizers, a true partnership with the FGG, and top-notch vendors hired to implement key components of the plan means we now enjoy the confidence of our community, sports organizers worldwide, and now the corporate world."
"We are extremely excited to have a broadcast partner this far in advance of the Games," said Kevin Boyer, CGI Board Co-Vice President and Chair of the Marketing Committee. "Advanced television coverage and programming will let us tell the inspiring Gay Games story to even more people. The Gay Games have never had an opportunity like this and we are excited to be an integral part of the Q Television mission to create a network devoted to providing television programming for the LGBT community."
Negotiations were spearheaded by Amy Shomer of Plan B, Chicago's primary corporate sponsorship development firm. With offices in Los Angeles, Montreal and London, Plan B has worked to match corporate sponsors with the Gay Games since being retained by Chicago in early 2004. Corporate sponsorship of Gay Games VII is still available. Companies interested in learning more about Gay Games sponsorship should visit http://www.GayGamesChicago.org/sponsors/ or call (773) 907-2006.
About Q Television Network
Q Television Network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. The company's programming is available on a subscription basis and is now broadcasting on the RCN Cable Network 24 hours per day, 7 days per week in markets across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
About Gay Games VII
Gay Games VII Sports and Cultural Festival will take place 15-22 July 2006. Over 12,000 athletes from more than 100 countries will compete in 30 sports ranging from softball to ******port, swimming to tennis. The weeklong event will include an arts festival, band, cheerleading and chorus performances, and a series of community-organized social events and parties. The opening ceremony is scheduled for 15 July at Soldier Field, the lakefront home stadium of American-style football's Chicago Bears. Closing ceremony will be 22 July at Wrigley Field, the home of Major League Baseball's Chicago Cubs, located in the heart of Chicago's largest LGBT neighborhood. Athletes and artists can register now for Gay Games VII and receive early registration discounts at GayGamesChicago.org.
About The Gay Games
The Gay Games was conceived by Dr. Tom Waddell, an Olympic decathlete, and was first held in San Francisco in 1982 with 1,350 participants. Subsequent Gay Games have been held in San Francisco (1986; 3,500 participants), Vancouver (1990; 7,300 participants), New York (1994; 12,500 participants), Amsterdam (1998; 13,000 participants), and Sydney (2002; 11,000 participants).
The Federation of Gay Games is the international governing body that perpetuates the quadrennial Gay Games and promotes the event's founding principles of participation, inclusion, and personal best. For more information, visit GayGames.org.
Chicago Games, Inc. is the host of Gay Games VII and is led by experienced civic leaders from Chicago's business, sports and non-profit sectors. For information about how to sponsor or participate in Gay Games VII in Chicago, visit www.GayGamesChicago.org, e-mail info@GayGamesChicago.org, or phone (773) 907-2006.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
Gay Gamesฎ is a registered trademark of the Federation of Gay Games.
Chicago Games, Inc 5443 N. Broadway, Suite 101, Chicago, IL 60640
773.907.2006 - GayGamesChicago.org- info@GayGamesChicago.org
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Contact:
CWR & Partners, LLP
Ronnie Welch, 508-222-4802
Ronnie@cwrpartners.com
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Sunny: Women do not slap each other on the butts, but they do go to the bathroom with each other and we don't know what kind of slapping goes on there. Maybe that could be a good take for a Q Television specialGO QBID!!!!!!!! Bring Me The Money !!!!!
You guys obviously didn't watch beach volleyball during the Olympics, lots of butt slapping, love that sport.
Sooner or later, they'll let this thing run, it just makes more sense then letting this thing go to the ground.
And just like the last time it ran, no one knew nothing about the run and if people were patient, they were part of it while others wanted to jump right in.
This is great. More great things will be coming. How can people still think this is a scam?
I live in Illinois, not far from Chicago, I am sure I will hear more about this around here.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Digdough....just let us know what you find out. We all would appreciate any information you could provide!! Thanks in advance.
quote:
Originally posted by qnique:
Man I don't understand. QBID comes out with Great news and this stock will not buldge. I think the MM's must have it out for Frank to the point to where no matter what news comes out, they will not let this stock fly. Other stocks fly with no news and QBID can't fly with good news or no news for that matter. What is gonna actually make this stock fly? Somebody please let me know cause I am just shocked.
Could it be that not enough investors from the general public are aware of qbid? The series of good news lately should have triggered massive buying bringing up the pps. Perhaps this stock is only known by those who post or read on boards and maybe a selected few. I got to believe that once the general public is aware of this potential nobody and nothing can keep this stock down, imho.
quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
Could it be that not enough investors from the general public are aware of qbid? The series of good news lately should have triggered massive buying bringing up the pps. Perhaps this stock is only known by those who post or read on boards and maybe a selected few. I got to believe that once the general public is aware of this potential nobody and nothing can keep this stock down, imho.
What about analysts following the stock and issuing buy recomendations? Does this ever happen for pinks??
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What about analysts following the stock and issuing buy recomendations? Does this ever happen for pinks??
Can't imagine analysts for big brokerage houses even touching pinks. I could be wrong but I've never seen it. Brokers for brokerage firms don't want their clients touching pinks. The word needs to get out to the general public via TV ads, magazines....
Joe Average needs to hear about this opportunity, imo.
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What about analysts following the stock and issuing buy recomendations? Does this ever happen for pinks??
The problem is just because a PR is put out doesn't mean everyone reads it. You pretty much have to know about QBID and be interested enough to read the PRs. How many other people are asking the same sort of question about their favorite stock? How many of us even know about it? SOMETHING has to bring it to the attention of the investment community. There needs to be a big enough event that mainstream news services pick up the story. Or an aggressive PR firm that can get the word out to the general public.
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quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
... As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, ...
Anyone else catch this phrase?! Perhaps we're in for another PR to let us know which ones? Let's hope!
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
The problem is just because a PR is put out doesn't mean everyone reads it. You pretty much have to know about QBID and be interested enough to read the PRs. How many other people are asking the same sort of question about their favorite stock? How many of us even know about it? SOMETHING has to bring it to the attention of the investment community. There needs to be a big enough event that mainstream news services pick up the story. Or an aggressive PR firm that can get the word out to the general public.
Olson and crew need to seriously consider a nationwide television campaign, especially since they will be broadcasting the gaylympics next next. I mean how else could they get the word out on the madnitude needed to get this to fly?
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Anyone else catch this phrase?! Perhaps we're in for another PR to let us know which ones? Let's hope!
Are we going to get a PR by 3:00 pm? Any predictions?
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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Are we going to get a PR by 3:00 pm? Any predictions?
Typically it's not the best timing to have a PR one hour before the weekend, but what the he77,
doesn't make a difference in this case...(being sarcastic)
Digital Services
All of Firestone's services are fully digital.
Once word about Q gets out to the general public what will the general oppinion from non-gay investors be? Will they look at this objectively as an investment to be considered, or, will they turn their back to it?
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Well in that case, I hope you requested stock certificates of your favorite pinkies. They might be useful for toilet paper, handkerchiefs, and bandages to stop the massive bleeding you're sure to take for 'investing' here-R
quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
Been thinking about this for a while now....Once word about Q gets out to the general public what will the general oppinion from non-gay investors be? Will they look at this objectively as an investment to be considered, or, will they turn their back to it?
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Anyone else catch this phrase?! Perhaps we're in for another PR to let us know which ones? Let's hope!
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Yea I'm waiting to hear about it.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
I'm sure the bigots will have a problem with it, but so what?
Let's just hope those are small groups....and hopefully none of them will start an anti Q campaign... (knocking on wood)
quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
Been thinking about this for a while now....Once word about Q gets out to the general public what will the general oppinion from non-gay investors be? Will they look at this objectively as an investment to be considered, or, will they turn their back to it?
I'm sure it will run the full spectrum. Some won't care, they'll see money in the potential. Others would rather die poor than make a "gay nickel". Try as they might, I don't think they'll get this genie back in the bottle.
quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
Let's just hope those are small groups....and hopefully none of them will start an anti Q campaign... (knocking on wood)
Sometimes the best advertising is free press from these hate groups! The people that will join the boycott would not have been consumers of the product anyway. So, they end up 'advertising' the product to those who may not have been aware of its existence... you know, those who WOULD be consumers. Boycott campaigns often backfire.
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
I'm sure it will run the full spectrum. Some won't care, they'll see money in the potential. Others would rather die poor than make a "gay nickel". Try as they might, I don't think they'll get this genie back in the bottle.
Somehow the word needs to be spread, massivly and nationwide. Once the average investor is onto this, positive PRs will have the desired positive effect we've been missing so far...
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Sometimes the best advertising is free press from these hate groups! The people that will join the boycott would not have been consumers of the product anyway. So, they end up 'advertising' the product to those who may not have been aware of its existence... you know, those who WOULD be consumers. Boycott campaigns often backfire.
Great point! Free advertising = less expenses for Q = more $$$ for us!!! works for me.
Not done yet, but my bet, is that it will happen.
dz
quote:
Originally posted by qnique:
NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS**** WE GONNA GET THIS MONEY http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
Free advertising... "BRING IT ON". LOL
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Sometimes the best advertising is free press from these hate groups! The people that will join the boycott would not have been consumers of the product anyway. So, they end up 'advertising' the product to those who may not have been aware of its existence... you know, those who WOULD be consumers. Boycott campaigns often backfire.
We keep getting all this good news and the stock is not reflecting it....
Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
Sorry missed that Thank you ... but you know us bashers we got to throw are 2cents in.
Hmm, first post since that day.
quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
Ive got a question...
We keep getting all this good news and the stock is not reflecting it....
Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
Ive got a question...
We keep getting all this good news and the stock is not reflecting it....
Thanks
Hello all. Been awhile sense my last post, just been lurking.
To answer your question, I think it's because we still have Frank "I tanked the Q" Olsen running the show!
Hello Farmboy, glad to hear you made it through everything O.K.
Bob_dog
Still holding, Still Bee I itching about Frank
quote:
Originally posted by Bob_dog:
Hello all. Been awhile sense my last post, just been lurking.
To answer your question, I think it's because we still have Frank "I tanked the Q" Olsen running the show!
Hello Farmboy, glad to hear you made it through everything O.K.Bob_dog
Still holding, Still Bee I itching about Frank
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
When did you get in, bob_dog?
to the office by 7 am this morning.
In the Q post .005
quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
Ive got a question...
We keep getting all this good news and the stock is not reflecting it....
Thanks
Just so you know penguinking, this is not a question. A question would generally begin with who, what, where, when, why, or how. Also, it would generally be followed by a question mark (?).
For example:
Why would you say, "I have a question," then not actually ask a question?
Or
Who's your daddy biat**?
Both of the above examples can be your starting point. Try to write a few sentences that ask questions! Good luck.
But seriously, if I, a below average investor in Podunk VA can recognise the economic power of the Gay community I would hope the average "straight" investor could as well.
JMHO Pieman
quote:
Originally posted by vforce:
Been thinking about this for a while now....Once word about Q gets out to the general public what will the general oppinion from non-gay investors be? Will they look at this objectively as an investment to be considered, or, will they turn their back to it?
quote:
Originally posted by Bob_dog:
Hello all. Been awhile sense my last post, just been lurking.
To answer your question, I think it's because we still have Frank "I tanked the Q" Olsen running the show!
Hello Farmboy, glad to hear you made it through everything O.K.Bob_dog
Still holding, Still Bee I itching about Frank
Hey Bob_dog,... thanks! I came through pretty well, all things considered. My hometown up north didn't fair so well from Ivan... 100% of the business district was destroyed and about 8000 people lost their homes. It's just really sad.
i retain the most useless info...
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
posted July 7, 2004 20:51
Hmm, first post since that day.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Well in that case, I hope you requested stock certificates of your favorite pinkies. They might be useful for toilet paper, handkerchiefs, and bandages to stop the massive bleeding you're sure to take for 'investing' here-R
My dear lady, that assumes that all of us here that invest in QBID are willy-nilly investing in pinkieland. A good investment is a good investment no matter where one happens to come upon it.
Would any savy business let that ripe apple fall to the ground and roll away?
We now know that there have been technical problems within the cable industry. I hope that Frank is holding out for top dollar from carriers.
IMHO, when the pps moves up, it will be in the blink of an eye. I'm ready.
I've got my balance order in, and my core is in a holding pattern for as long as it takes.
"All we ever had to do was launch."
Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Televisions cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
The Gay Games have never had an opportunity like this and we are excited to be an integral part of the Q Television mission to create a network devoted to providing television programming for the LGBT community.
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
Tracy Baim, Co-vice chair of Chicago Games Inc.s board, says the deal is for a seven-figure cash consideration. It also includes an agreement to air shows promoting the games through their July 2006 launch.
Ms. Baim says Q Television will broadcast the games to at least 150 U.S markets, and possibly overseas. The 2002 games, held in Sydney, Australia, were not broadcast outside of the Sydney metropolitan area.
thats the comment i like...right now we are in 6..7 if rcn adds LA, now unless they are going to add 143 more in june of 2006....
Q Network sets first gay comedy special
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Big News Network.com Saturday 2nd October, 2004
Q Television Network is planning to air what it called TV's first all-gay standup comedy series, the network announced Friday.
The series, called Giggles, is set to begin filming Oct. 20 at the Ice House, a popular comedy club in Pasadena, Calif. The series will also be the first original series to air on QTN, the first full-time gay and lesbian TV network.
Georgia Ragsdale -- star of the video Sporty Girls and a performer at the Montreal Comedy Festival -- will emcee the series.
Comics scheduled to appear on the show include Bob Smith (The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher), Stephanie Howard (Premium Blen) and Ant (Last Comic Standing).
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=655e3c63eb086fcd
I was hoping Ant would be on Q Television Network. When I saw him on "Last comic standing" he was great but I guess he didn't get enough votes to stay.
That news made my weekend. I'm enjoying the progress and know my investment is secure!
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Saturday 2nd October, 2004Q Network sets first gay comedy special
We published a story on Q television in our September 28 print issue (p. 52), and we publish frequent news items about the network in our online edition, including the Gay Games licensing agreement you mentioned. I'd like to think that our readers are well informed about Q TV's existence and activities, and that they have the information they need
to support Q TV, if they so desire.
So far, we have read every press release from Q television and tend to publish something about most of them. Certainly
we will continue to report on their activities and programming as they develop their business and audience. We absolutely agree with you that the more queer-targeted media that are successful, the better it is for all of us. If they find more supporters such as yourself, they certainly will
succeed.
Thanks for writing.
-Bruce
Bruce C. Steele
Editor-in-Chief
THE ADVOCATE and Advocate.com
6922 Hollywood Blvd., 10th floor * Los Angeles, CA 90028 *
I love hearing from other sources about this investment!
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Just got an email from the Advocate.
Mr. ____We published a story on Q television in our September 28 print issue (p. 52), and we publish frequent news items about the network in our online edition, including the Gay Games licensing agreement you mentioned. I'd like to think that our readers are well informed about Q TV's existence and activities, and that they have the information they need
to support Q TV, if they so desire.So far, we have read every press release from Q television and tend to publish something about most of them. Certainly
we will continue to report on their activities and programming as they develop their business and audience. We absolutely agree with you that the more queer-targeted media that are successful, the better it is for all of us. If they find more supporters such as yourself, they certainly will
succeed.Thanks for writing.
-Bruce
Bruce C. Steele
Editor-in-Chief
THE ADVOCATE and Advocate.com6922 Hollywood Blvd., 10th floor * Los Angeles, CA 90028 *
" The public is welcome to attend the first two episodes of Giggles, taped back-to-back beginning at 8pm. The event that is located at 24 N. Mentor Ave. in Pasadena will be free, but there is a two-drink minimum charge. Dinner will also be available starting at 7pm. Guest lineups for the show includes; Bob Smith, Stephanie Howard, Ant and Sabrina Matthews."
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13908&sd=10/02/04-10/04/04
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nice to see you PK hope to see your penguin elite forces again. lol
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Just so you know penguinking, this is not a question. A question would generally begin with who, what, where, when, why, or how. Also, it would generally be followed by a question mark (?).For example:
Why would you say, "I have a question," then not actually ask a question?
Or
Who's your daddy biat**?
Both of the above examples can be your starting point. Try to write a few sentences that ask questions! Good luck.
By: dalo_jones1
QTV is getting white hot folks!!!!
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13908&sd=10/02/04-10/04/04
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http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=655e3c63eb086fcd
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http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Breaking+News
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http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/10/100104gamesTV.htm
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http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA457774.html?display=Breaking+News
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http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_vi ew&newsId=20041001005...
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/lazare/cst-fin-lew01b.html
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http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13881&sd=10/01/04
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http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/2409529
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http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
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SAYS QBID WILL BE OFF THE PINKS IN AT LEAST 6 MONTHS!
http://www.ceocast.com/company_media.cfm?media=2&file=16448
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Jim
SAYS QBID WILL BE OFF THE PINKS IN AT LEAST 6 MONTHS!
Perrrrrrfect! Lower taxes after 2-05!
Thanks 1BigTip.
LET'S SEE HERE FRANK:
YOU OBTAIN FINANCING TO GUARANTEE 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST.
THEN YOU TELL US YOU HAVE A MAJOR FINANCE COMPANY LOAN YOU $2 MILLION TO ASSURE 1-YEAR BROADCAST. THEN YOU RE-ISSUE 5-6 BILLION SHARES ON TOP OF 50 BILLION MORE.
BY YOUR OWN ACCOUNT YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY 15 BILLION BACK IN FEBRUARY. ALL THAT TOGETHER IS 71 BILLION SHARES.
AND YOU'LL BE OFF PINKS WITHIN 6-MONTHS.
KEEP EM COMING FRANKIE BOY.
U4 you ol' knucklehead where have you been? I've been worried about you. Did you get washed out to shore by the hurricans? Let us know what you've been up to.
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited October 02, 2004).]
Good Morning all Q-bidders!
Lovin' all the coverage.
"One of the funniest comedians on the circuit."
The Boston Globe
"Georgia is nothing less than a find."
The Advocate
http://www.georgiaragsdale.net/
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...blah, blah, blah...
Thank you for your opinion, U[seless]4.
. . . F L U S H ! ! . . .
(I was so hopeful that Mother Nature wiped this fecal matter from the planet!)
But here you go.
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Good day this is Michael Wachs with CEOcast. Im here today with Frank Olson. Frank is president and Chief Executive officer of Q Television Network, a company that trades over the counter under the pink sheet symbol QBID. One that was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming to the gay & lesbian community. Thanks for joining CEOcast today Frank.
FO: Thank you for having me.
MW: I thought perhaps you can begin with the overview of the company and then well get into the programming and why this is so well suited for its audience.
FO: Well first thing the company has been .. for the gay community. Weve been working on this for 11 years. This is not an overnight project, its an 11 year project. We have 70% of our money is private money that was invested in the company and the rest of the money is stock sales. The company is a pink sheet which we plan on taking forward reporting. Were in the process of doing that, weve made some mistakes ,,, With ____ now we got it straightened out over the last 5 years and now well be reporting probably within 6 months to a year. 6 months. Its going to take at least 6 months to finish that.
MW: As you look at the audience now, why is your content so well suited for it?
FO: Well because see, our content, I should give you a little bit of my experience. Ive owned television stations for 30 years and I had17 gay bars. So I know the gay community, I had the first black radio network and Ive been specializing with minority broadcasting all my life. Native American broadcasting, all kinds of minority mixed market broadcast. So by owning gay bars Ive learned about the gay community. How diversified they were and what you had to do to make a television station for them. And that was not making a bunch of sitcoms and making the gay person the odd ball. Gay people do not buy gay toothpaste, you have to understand that. They buy fords, they buy crest, and theyre only gay in the bedroom and the rest of the time theyre normal regular people that live a gay lifestyle and they have gay families. Most gay people of the age of 30 have a partner and they have long relationships, probably because theyre not under the pressure of being married. (laughs)
MW: Frank what about the content itself, what kind of content do you provide?
FO: Ok, first thing we have a 3 hour block in the evening thats repeated 3 times. It starts out with a gay interactive talk show that anybody from any place in the world can call us up
And we can put you on television through your web cam and weve done some special technology that they used in Iraq and we boost up the signal and its not perfect for the person calling but they are on television and you can see them very well and its a call in talk show and it will talk about gay issues and one day it will be fun, theres 3 hosts of lesbian comedians, stand up comedians, And 1 person has the longest running gay radio talk show which has been going on for 19 years, David Crest. Then we have Chris Fox which is another radio DJ but hes been in several movies and some sitcoms and he will be the other host. The 3 host that will address 3 plasma screen and will be a two hour talk show. One screen for the mid-America , one screen for the west coast, and one screen for the east coast. Youll be able to call from any place on your webcam. Or youll be able to go to Kinkos which has a national teleconference system that the picture comes in very clear which will be able to bring in guests from all over the world and they go to Kinkos and theyll be able to call and be able to get gay issues on the table immediately. Gay people are very issue oriented.
The next show that comes on the 3 hour block is the gay events show that tells what happening out in the world of gay and it basically shows movies and film clips and its kind of a fun out and about show. Then we go to a gay sports show, I am the only gay transsender sports caster in the country. Used to be on ABC, I dont know what name she used on ABC but now she has a man so now she is Jackie inks(?) and she does the sports behind the sports. And then we go to gay movies, gay plays, and then in the morning we do the lesbian show this is copy after the view called woman on woman its a strip show 5 days a week. On weekends we do a tech show that shows where all the gay website are and then we buy some programming.
We just signed a contract with the gay Olympics in 2006, a multi million dollar contract. We have all the broadcast rights, all the network rights, and the line feed rights. So well be able to send it all the over the world, if anybody wants it they have to go through us. That was just signed yesterday. Well be doing gay rodeos, were going to be following the gay community all over the country and thats whats different from every other station; were going to bring the gay community together. Person in Atlanta will finally get to see the Halloween parade in west Hollywood live on our station.
MW: Frank, what about advertiser and your advertising and your revenue base.
FO: Revenue base comes from 2 places. We charge $7.95 which we split with the cable companies and that is for 2 reasons. 1, we want to give the cable company some inducement to take us but also we want to be invited in the home. We want to be scrambled; we dont want to force our agenda on anybody. This is very important because Ive been married, I was married for 29 years and I have grandchildren and I do not want my grandchildren to ask me why to men are kissing on television; an 8 & 9 year old. Children ask me that. When theyre 12 Ill sit there and tell them all about the facts of life. But Im going to have them; you know kids act out what they see on television. Im a gay person, openly gay now, but they dont need to know that right now; kids get to much force on them they dont need to have that force on them, so were going to be scrambled.
The next revenue base comes from advertisers, we limit our advertiser down to, you ever picked up a gay magazine, we call them gay mags, and if youll notice in gay mags theres several fortune 500 companies that advertise in those but they really dont like to advertise in those because they want to get to the gay community but they dont like who advertising with because the next page is escort services and gay bars and strip joints and things like that. Our ratings are TV14 and we dont go any higher. So we give them a nice, safe place to advertise where the straight person doesnt know theyre advertising and so they will not lose to, remember we have to deal with 13%. 13.10% Gay 3% curious. Then we have the 33% religious community so advertisers have to be very careful they dont want to lose more then theyre gaining.
The gay families have a 600 billion dollar a year disposal income. Advertisers want a big chunk of that especially people like American Express, Carnival tours, travel agencies, and beverage companies, and computer companies. They love to get into that money but they dont want to offend anybody, so thats why were scrambled and so we run a limited run of advertisers. We do not break movies, we do not break gay plays, we do not break some events, but we do break sports events, the talk show, we break talking head show and things like that. So we average about 8 minutes an hour instead of 18 minutes an hour.
MW: What should investors now look for in the coming quarters in terms of key developments from the company.
FO: Well were building 3 studios well be all over the country and it will cut our expenses down. Weve moved our production facilities in Fort Worth, Texas because of the talent Fort Worth has and the pricing is so much cheaper, so well be able to live within our budget and start growing to be a money making company. We should be showing profit within 12-13 months. And we should be off the penny stocks, I would say in a year we will be on an exchange, I dont which one yet were having advisories and lawyers and everyone getting into that. But were a growing stable company; we have plenty of financing, plenty of money available to carry us 3 years if we dont make a dime. But I think well be making money within a year. Right now were building up programming, were building up studios, and thats where were at.
MW: Well Ive been speaking today with Frank Olson, Frank is President and Chief Executive officer of Triangle Multimedia Limited a company that trades over the counter under the symbol QBID and one that is owner of the Q Television Network. Frank thanks for joining CEOcast today.
FO: Thank You for having me.
MW: This has been Michael Wachs for CEOcast, where Wall Street listens.
http://www.ceocast.com/company_media.cfm?media=2&file=16448
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So we should expect to see financials at the end of the 2nd quarter next year.
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
not to burst any bubbles but frank says at least 6 months up to a year. not bad news but in 6 months if its not done U4 will be calling frank a liar. says should be profitable in 12 months also good news. that means money left after loans, production & overhead. he also gave us the base deal with cable companies, said splits the 7.95, about $4 each. not sure but i was always under the impression that cable companies paid to broadcast channels, heard of them being ready to cancel differant stations because they wanted to much for the rights to broadcast. if this is true then it might help getting on bigger cable line-ups. if a broker can make his investers 20% a yr he is considered great this means anything over .084 in the next yr is gravy (based on yesterdays close). should we start cooking & mashing those spuds now?
[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 02, 2004).]
I'm assuming everyone is taking the weekend off from watching the boards.
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
1Big_ I'm pretty sure he said "..they buy Fords and Crest..".
Terry[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 02, 2004).]
not bashing 1bigtip just trying to be sure the wrong rumors dont give ppl like U4 food
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Cool! Another U4TSAF2 post. That means we're headed for a bounce next week. It never fails! LOL
this is what he said important to me (for the future going forward):
...referring to the 2006 gay olympics....
"we have all the broadcast, all the network, all the line-feed rights.
we'll be able to send it all over the world.
wherever anybody wants it, they have to get it from us."
"we just signed that deal yesterday"
--so we (the q) have a signed contract in hand for the future!!!
those people in chicago have already done their olympics--already legit. ergo, if we weren't legit, they wouldn't have signed with us.
...legitimacy. we (the q) really exist folks.......
...and we got that satellite thing going....
Hularious? If you want funny U4TSAF2, just dig up those old photos of that buffalo who stole your virginity.
Peace~
-Byrd-
Glad I checked the board.
October 6 is Wednesday--two trading days away.
Hopefully we will get more press on the games!
Very overwhelmed by so much positive news, media exposure and programming definitives!
I personally went from "is this a scam" jitters one week ago to "wonder when Q will broadcast in NYC" today. I didn't think I'd get this chance to average down, and I have. If we see .03 I'll be thrilled- I'm not greedy.
Yes, he did say they buy "Fords and Crest" (think he came up with those on the fly? i don't).
Yes, he said "we'll be reporting in 6 to 12 months- 6 months, yes, its gonna take at least 6 months.." (he seemed to be be talking out loud). Key is that it is in his plans.
Love that it didn't sound scripted, he had humor, and I really like that he wasn't CEO-ish.
IMO that makes people in positions of authority want to help you. Come in all corporate like you know it all, and people assume you've got it all together. I've seen it happen many times in business. I belive working the "underdog good guy" angle is going to help Q a lot.
I like this "help my cause- we're in this together" casual approach.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
I'm assuming everyone is taking the weekend off from watching the boards.
lol...now if that pesky pps will only start cooperatin'.........
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Not taking the weekend off!Very overwhelmed by so much positive news, media exposure and programming definitives!
I personally went from "is this a scam" jitters one week ago to "wonder when Q will broadcast in NYC" today. I didn't think I'd get this chance to average down, and I have. If we see .03 I'll be thrilled- I'm not greedy.
~BB
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whizknock
I'm assuming that the pps will rise following the buy back. I'm definitely ready for the move up, but I'm not anxious about it.
This has provided the opportunity to add more shares and the opportunity for others to get in while it is subpenny. Most of us have benefited from the recent lower pps.
Again today, I read back through this thread and the previous one. We have truly made tremendous progress within just four weeks!
The next four weeks ????? IMHO, it's only going to get bigger and better.
Firefly, I also noticed that Atlanta will be able to watch the Halloween parade!!! Now, we need our crystal ball--will it be the '04 or the '05 parade?
I vote for the '04!
Time is short.
Any other cable provider will just be the begining! Then another will sign on &,,,
Yep! I just can't quite remember the exact moment it occurred to me that there was only one element missing from this investment,,,,
Very quietly!
They're waiting!
Huge Fortune 500 Companies!
They want to be remembered by the G/L community the first to advertise directly to them & pick up intensly loyal consummer base that commands a HALF TRILLION DOLLAR DISPOSABLE INCOME!
I know there are Fortune 500 Companies that already have commercials in the can waiting.
Once these carriers experience the weight of Corporate America seeking to advertise through Q TV this will forever put to bed anyones doubts as to whether QBID will become a viable National TV Network.
Some people wonder if Comcast will carry our signal?
I have to wonder how long Comcast is willing to wait around for other providers to cash in first when there's a ready made opportunity to beat them to the punch & in so doing pick up some loyal subsribers themselves.
You know it's almost funny but I also tend to forget that COX and COMCAST agreed to carry the test signal back in May & did an excellent job!
My guess would be Comcast is onboard before LOGO ever gets on the air.
No matter how hard I try, I just can't remember when it dawned on me,,,,
THE ONLY THIG MISSING IS THE ELEMENT OF RISK!!!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Think $500,000,000,000.oo Disposable Income!
One percent of that is FIVE BILLION DOLLARS!
POINT ZERO FIVE PERCENT OF THAT HALF TRILLION DOLLAR TARGET IS TWO HUNDERED FIFTY MILLION BUCKS!
$250 million in revenue is enough to carry us to a $1 & beyond!
My question isn't can we actually see a buck a share!
My question is,,, are there any COMBINATION OF CATASTROPHIC EVENTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY PREVENT US FROM BEING WORTH $5 A SHARE?
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
They can contract with Viacom for LOGO.
You are so right, QTN would provide the opportunity for Comcast to increase their subscribers. Isn't that what it is all about for a cable carrier?
. Whiz look at all of the GLBT friendly companies, most airlines, car manufactures, beverage companies etc.. the list is to long. Good stuff! [This message has been edited by firefly (edited October 02, 2004).]
Have a great rest of the weekend.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Question? admin and others. Last week I was unable to log onto this board. I also had some problems with adware/spyware alerts along with some virus issues. Has anyone else had these kind of problems?
Thanks,
McFly
Same here
1BIG--thanks for transcribing that tape of FRANK...sounds promising. LOTS of publicity...now we're on the MOVE...bet this week will be exciting.
Have a good night and I'll be checking in tomorrow.
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Question? admin and others. Last week I was unable to log onto this board. I also had some problems with adware/spyware alerts along with some virus issues. Has anyone else had these kind of problems?
Thanks,
McFly
Same here. Infected with the AED.dll trojan virus. McAffee caught it, but doesn't clear it all. It gave me errors on Ad Aware which kept reappearing and also giving me a computer generated IP address. Kept me offline all week. I have inst from DELL to clear it out of winsock if you need. bldrbuddy at hotmail dot com. I figured it was from a hole in the WinXP SP2 I had installed.
I also avoided Norton and got McAfee.
Point? I know it was another message board that did it, I never assumed it was this one but we all need to be carefull of the links we click, the emails we open, and the websites we visit. You also need to run a firewall and virus protection 24/7.
Best thing about it, I can trace back whos trying to hack into my system. I already traced a person from L.A, to San Jose, to Yonkers, NY and to my computer. Got his IP and server info.
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 02, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
***A DOLLAR A SHARE?***Think $500,000,000,000.oo Disposable Income!
One percent of that is FIVE BILLION DOLLARS!
POINT ZERO FIVE PERCENT OF THAT HALF TRILLION DOLLAR TARGET IS TWO HUNDERED FIFTY MILLION BUCKS!
$250 million in revenue is enough to carry us to a $1 & beyond!
My question isn't can we actually see a buck a share!
My question is,,, are there any COMBINATION OF CATASTROPHIC EVENTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY PREVENT US FROM BEING WORTH $5 A SHARE?
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
I lowered my goal to owning 3.5 million shares before 2005!
600,000,000,000.00 (600 billion)
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Whis you have to update that number. $610,000,000
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what a rush jumping out of a perfectly ok airplane.
i am just vibrating still and it has been 4 hours since the jump.
hope this wasnt to far off topic. Just thought i would share this with you all.
have a great weekend, and hope next week brings us some green. =)
Rod
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 02, 2004).]
Rod
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Crazy, but must of been a rush! Hope you took some pics while flying.[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 02, 2004).]
The reason internet exploder gets so many viruses is because hackers know that everyone uses it.
I use IE only for specific sites that I feel are safe, not all sites seem to work on Opera but it's a very small %.
Also, dont forget to keep your IE updated: http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v5consumer/default.aspx?ln=en-us
logo will be on time warner and rcn according to this logo web site http://www.logo-tv.com/faq.html#q1
as frank said in the interview by being premium more 500 companies will be interested in ad's on q as it won't get out to the religious right as easy. we do need 2 of the top 5 companies to add q to most of the country to get the pps really moving.
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
this was uncalled for GLPIMP you understood his comment. you offered nothign in return.
nice to see you PK hope to see your penguin elite forces again. lolRod
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
Just updated and bought Norton 2005 last week, with firewall etc. Looks like something got me, trying mcafee now. always have my firewall and adware and spyware running and updated. Dang, Thanks for the e-mail boulder. Will look at it Rue,,thanks.
Try Panda Antivirus, it works great. Also, get Lavasoft adware remover. www.lavasoft.nu. Get the new SE edition!
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Whis you have to update that number. $610,000,000
Daaaaaaaaaaamn!
You're right! I need to update some info. Frank say,,,
"The gay families have a 600 billion dollar a year disposal income. Advertisers want a big chunk of that especially people like American Express, Carnival tours, travel agencies, and beverage companies, and computer companies."
Hey BigTip! Thanks for reposting that CEOcast!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
They do not exist!
Think about the word "network" & what that might imply.
I do not pretend to know when but I do know that there will come a time that this stock will see a dollar a share & more.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
sounds like you've been up a few times penny...did it once in hawaii yrs ago...they drop you out over the ocean, trade winds bring you to land...it was great
================================logo will be on time warner and rcn according to this logo web site http://www.logo-tv.com/faq.html#q1
as frank said in the interview by being premium more 500 companies will be interested in ad's on q as it won't get out to the religious right as easy. we do need 2 of the top 5 companies to add q to most of the country to get the pps really moving.
BACK IN FEBRUARY HE SAID WE HAVE 15 BILLION SHARES. JUST RECENTLY HE AUTHORIZED 5-6 BILLION MORE ON TOP OF 50-BILLION. THAT TOTALS 71-BILLION.
NOW HE IS UPGRADING THE STOCK AND EXPECTS TO BE PROFITABLE IN A YEAR. IF YOU HAVE 5-YEAR BROADCAST FINANCING THEN YOU ADD ANOTHER 2 MILLION FOR 1ST YEAR BROADCAST THEN WHY ARE YOU ISSUING 50-BILLION MORE SHARES ON TOP OF ANOTHER 5-6 BILLION TO TOTAL 71-BILLION.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO UPGRADE Q-TV WITH 15-BILLION SHARES LET ALONE 70-BILLION. THERE IS A PERIOD CAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. <-----PERIOD; IMPOSSIBLE.
NOT A SINGLE ADVERTISER, NOT A SINGLE SUBSCRIBER, NOT A SINGLE NOTTA AND HE'S GOING TO BE PROFITABLE IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
"We should be showing profit within 12-13 months."
NEXT FRANK TELLS US HE'S BUILDING 3 STUDIO'S "ALL OVER THE COUNTRY". UH HELLO, FRANK JUST TOLD US THE OTHER DAY THAT HE BOUGHT A BUILDING THAT WAS 60-FEET HIGH FOR PRODUCTION SO HE COULD ELIMINATE ALL THE OTHER PLACES HE WAS RENTING. ALTHOUGH, THIS WAS THE FIRST WE HEARD OF HAVING PROGRAMMING SPACE AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO WHICH IS IT, DO WE HAVE RENTAL PRODUCTION SPACES IN LAS VEGAS, NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE NOT USING THEM NO MORE CAUSE WE BOUGHT A NEW STEEL BUILDING THAT IS 60-FEET HIGH OR ARE WE NOW RENTING PLACES ONCE AGAIN? WHICH LIE ARE WE STICKING TO TODAY. HEY FRANK, I THINK WE NEED TO RENT SPACE IN THE PHILIPPINES CAUSE LABOR IS REALLY CHEAP THERE.
IF HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 11-YEARS, WHERE HAS THAT MONEY COME FROM? $33,000/MONTH AT 12 MONTHS PER YEAR FOR 11 YEARS IS 132 MONTHS FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $4,356,000. UH. WHERE IS THE OVER FOUR-MILLION DOLLARS COMING FROM AND LET'S NOT FORGET, THE $33,000 IS THE REDUCED OPERATING EXPENSE.
NOW FRANK HAS OWNED TELEVISION STATIONS FOR 30-YEARS AND HAS HAD 30-GAY BARS. WHERE DID HE FIND THE TIME TO DEAL JUNK CONSIDERING HE WAS A JUNK DEALER. HUM. NOW HE HAS OWNED TELEVISION STATIONS FOR 30-YEARS AND CAN'T GET THIS ONE OFF THE GROUND FOR THE PAST 11? AMAZING ALL THE NEW RELEVATIONS WE HAVE COMING FROM FRANK OLSEN.
THERE IS NO GAY INTERACTIVE PROGRAMMING. NO. 1 YOU HAVE NO SUBSCRIBERS. NO. 2 THIS PROGRAMMING DOENS'T EXIST. NO. 3 I GUESS THEY ARE USING THE 800-HOTLINE FOR THE INCOMING CALLS. (LAUGHING) AND THE NICE THING IS THEY CAN TAKE 100,000 PHONE IN CALLS IN A 2-MONTH PERIOD. FURTHER, ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET CAN USE WEBCAMS AND CALL IN. WOW FRANK, YOU ARE REALLY MOVING WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AGE. AND HEY, ON THEIR LUNCH HOUR, THEY CAN SHOOT RIGHT OVER TO KINKO'S AND LOG ON.
"We just signed a contract with the gay Olympics in 2006, a multi million dollar contract." NO YOU DID NOT FRANK OLSEN YOU FLAT OUT LIAR. RE-READ THE INFO ON THAT AND Q-TV HAS NOTTA IN REVENUE FROM THE GAMES.
OH FRANK... DOUBLE TALK US AGAIN AND AGAIN. THE GAY COMMUNITY HAS 500 BILLION DISPOSABLE INCOME BUT "if youll notice in gay mags theres several fortune 500 companies that advertise in those but they really dont like to advertise in those because they want to get to the gay community but they dont like who advertising with because the next page is escort services and gay bars and strip joints and things like that."
AMAZING FRANK THAT ON MAIN STREAM TELEVISION, NBC, CBS AND ABC WE HAVE LOADS OF "GAY" PROGRAMMING AND ADVERTISERS AREN'T RUNNING AWAY. HOW ABOUT A GUY WHO'S TRYING TO FAUX A TV STATION AND CAN'T GET IT RUNNNING FOR 11-YEARS; HOW ABOUT THAT FOR SCARING ADVERTISERS FRANK. JUST CURIOUS FRANK.... HOW MANY ADVERTISERS DOES ANY OTHER PAY CHANNEL HAVE SUCH AS CINEMAX OR HBO?
HEY FRANK.... YOU NEED TO KEEP ATTENDING YOUR A.A. MEETINGS.
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quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Try Panda Antivirus, it works great. Also, get Lavasoft adware remover. www.lavasoft.nu. Get the new SE edition!
Are these programs available for Macs?
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=655e3c63eb086fcd
[This message has been edited by Bigrod40 (edited October 03, 2004).]
U4 - You actually typed a sentence in lower case!! This means you're showing improvement. Keep attending your meetings at the mental health center and eventually you'll start to feel better about youself. I'm very proud of your effort.
The only thing is that its either being shorted or held down for specific reasons not known to us. So take advantage of them holding it down because sooner or later, we'll be wishing we got more at these prices.
Enjoy the ride!
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
I just can't wait for the day they let this thing run! Nothing else is holding it back but "them"! The Mind Manipulators or "MM's"
QBID is real, they are making tremendous progress, and within days or months, a load of new people will find out about them and become the "new" investors. There's no reason why QBID won't run 100-500% within weeks!The only thing is that its either being shorted or held down for specific reasons not known to us. So take advantage of them holding it down because sooner or later, we'll be wishing we got more at these prices.
Enjoy the ride!
THE ONLY REASON I CAN THINK OF FOR HOLDING THE SHARE PRICE DOWN WOULD BE A BUY BACK!
Be careful Frank!
"All you had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
I agree whiz. Buy back.
Firefly!
One of the best ways to get this running would be to quickly buy back TWICE as many shares as he stated. Then he can sell a fracton of that to help put some money in their coffers & issue another PR stating they have enough cash on hand to run their network for 5 years.
After all,,,
"All Frank had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...blah, blah, blah...
Is that the best you've got?! You're getting desperate and it shows... LOSER!
. . . F L U S H ! ! . . .
I think this stock is being shorted big time.. Just enjoy the fact that you know about QBID.
quote:
Originally posted by tqn:
early morning flush flush flush !!!
Whenever I see U4 posting, I know that Q is gonna 1 step closer to $1 a piece.
Go Q.[This message has been edited by tqn (edited October 03, 2004).]
good news, QTV on RCN chan 255,confirmed..
as all of you know, i refuse to play games, i looked again tonite and qtv is on chan 255, its up and running confirmed.. right now just a lot of whats comin up on qtv no shows. but its up and running.. i am glad to report.. Go QBID..
quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tqn:
[b]early morning flush flush flush !!!
Whenever I see U4 posting, I know that Q is gonna 1 step closer to $1 a piece.
Go Q.[This message has been edited by tqn (edited October 03, 2004).]
good news, QTV on RCN chan 255,confirmed..
as all of you know, i refuse to play games, i looked again tonite and qtv is on chan 255, its up and running confirmed.. right now just a lot of whats comin up on qtv no shows. but its up and running.. i am glad to report.. Go QBID..
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well here's hoping to a fantastic week!
Good luck everyone....even you U4
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78.23% of all statistics are made up on the spot...The other 35% are made up later on.
I called out for Ant a couple of months ago. Seemed to be a good fit. We may not have Ellen or Rosie yet, but this line up card is filling out with alot of good talent and prospects.
American Express, Cruises, Crest , and Ford, are great possibilities. Dare I say probabilities?
Thanks Frank!
DZ
Voluntary Disclosure: Bialy has no social life to speak of, lol.
(But I'm long on the Q!)
G'nite!
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Just for kicks tonight, messing with my video software and had Q on the brain. If you don't have a cable/dsl connection, then skip it (cuz it's 11mb).
http://tinyurl.com/43fmgVoluntary Disclosure: Bialy has no social life to speak of, lol.
(But I'm long on the Q!)
G'nite!
LOL Q IS MY SOCIAL LIFE!!
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DIANA
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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DIANA
FO: Thank you for having me.
MW: I thought perhaps you can begin with the overview of the company and then well get into the programming and why this is so well suited for its audience.
FO: Well first thing the company has been tailor made for the gay community. Weve been working on this for 11 years. This is not an overnight project, its an 11 year project. We have 70% of our money is private money that was invested in the company and the rest of the money is from stock sales. The company is a pink sheet which we plan on taking forward reporting. Were in the process of doing that, weve made some mistakes and bought a shell which wasnt as clean as we hoped it would be but now we got it straightened out over the last 5 years and now I think well going to be reporting probably within 6 months to a year. 6 months. Its going to take at least 6 months to finish that.
MW: As you look at the audience now, why is your content so well suited for it?
FO: Well because see, our content, I should give you a little bit of my experience. Ive owned television stations for 30 years and I had 17 gay bars. So I know the gay community, I had the first black radio network and Ive been specializing with minority broadcasting all my life. Native American broadcasting, all kinds of minority niched market broadcast. So by owning gay bars Ive learned about the gay community. How diversified they were and what you had to do to make a television station for them. And that was not making a bunch of sitcoms and making the gay person the odd ball. Gay people do not buy gay toothpaste, you have to understand that. They buy fords, they buy crest, and they live and theyre only gay in their bedroom and the rest of the time theyre normal regular people that live a gay lifestyle and they have gay families. Most gay people just because they are out of the age of 30 have a partner, an invested partner and they have long relationships, probably because theyre not under the pressure of being married. (laughs)
MW: Frank what about the content itself, what kind of content do you provide?
FO: Ok, first thing we have a 3 hour block in the evening thats repeated 3 times. It starts out with a gay interactive talk show that anybody from any place in the world can call us up and we can put you on television through your web cam and weve done some special technology that they used in Iraq and we boost up the signal so its not perfect for the person that is calling in but they are on television and you can see them very well and its a call in talk show and it will talk about gay issues and one day it will be fun, theres 3 hosts of lesbian comedians, stand up comedians, And 2: 1 person has the longest running gay radio talk show which has been going on for 19 years, David Crest. Then we have Chris Fox which is another radio DJ but hes been in several movies and some sitcoms and he will be the other host.
The 3 host that will address 3 plasma screen and will be a two hour talk show. One screen for the mid-America , one screen for the west coast, and one screen for the east coast. Youll be able to call from any place on your webcam. Or youll be able to go to Kinkos which has a national teleconference system that the picture comes in very clear which will be able to bring in guests from all over the world and they go to Kinkos and theyll be able to call and be able to get gay issues out on the table immediately. Gay people are very issue oriented.
The next show that comes on the 3 hour block is the gay events show that tells what happening out in the world of gay and it basically shows movies and film clips and its kind of a fun out and about show. Then we go to a gay sports show, I have the only gay transgender sports caster in the country. Used to be on ABC, I dont know what name she used on ABC but now she has a man so now she is Jack E Jett and she does the sports behind the sports. And then we go to gay movies, gay plays, and then in the morning we do the lesbian show this is copy after the view called woman on woman its a strip show 5 days a week.
On weekends we do a tech show that shows where all the gay website are and then we buy some programming.
We just signed a contract with the gay Olympics in 2006, a multi million dollar contract. We have all the broadcast rights, all the network rights, and the line feed rights. So well be able to send it all the over the world, if anybody wants it they have to get it from us. That we just signed yesterday.
Well be doing gay rodeos, were going to be following the gay community all over the country and thats whats different from every other station; were going to bring the gay community together. Person in Atlanta will finally get to see the Halloween parade in west Hollywood live on our station.
MW: Frank, what about advertiser and your advertising and your revenue base.
FO: Revenue base comes from 2 places. We charge $7.95 which we split with the cable companies and that is for 2 reasons. 1, we want to give the cable company some inducement to take us but also we want to be invited in the home. We want to be scrambled; we dont want to force our agenda on anybody. This is very important because Ive been married, I was married for 29 years and I have grandchildren and I do not want my grandchildren to ask me why two men are kissing on television; an 8 & 9 year olds. Come and ask me that. When theyre 12 Ill sit there and tell them all about the facts of life. But Im not going to have them; you know kids act out what they see on television. Now Im a gay person, openly gay now, but they dont need to know that right now; kids get to much force on them they dont need to have that force on them, so were going to be scrambled.
The next revenue base comes from advertisers, we limit our advertiser down to, you ever picked up a gay magazine, we call them "Gay Rags", and if youll notice in gay rags theres several fortune 500 companies that advertise in those but they really dont like to advertise in those because they want to get to the gay community but they dont like who advertising with because the next page is escort services and gay bars and strip joints and things like that. So we are not above these. Our ratings are TV14 and we dont go any higher. So we give them a nice, safe place to advertise where the straight person doesnt know theyre advertising and so they will not lose to, remember we have to deal with 13%. 13 - 10% Gay, 3% curious. Then we have the 33% religious community so advertisers have to be very careful they dont want to lose more then theyre gaining.
The gay families have a 600 billion dollar a year disposal income. Advertisers want a big chunk of that especially people like American Express, Carnival tours, travel agencies, and beverage companies, and computer companies. They love to get into that money but they dont want to offend anybody, so thats why were scrambled and so we run a limited run of advertisers. We do not break movies, we do not break gay plays, we do not break some events, but we do break sports events, the talk show, we break talking head show and things like that. So we average about 8 minutes an hour instead of 18 minutes an hour.
MW: What should investors now look for in the coming quarters in terms of key developments from the company.
FO: Well were building 3 studios well be all over the country and it will cut our expenses down. Weve moved all our production facilities in Fort Worth, Texas because of the talent Fort Worth has and the pricing is so much cheaper, so well be able to live within our budget and start growing to be a money making company. We should be showing profit within 12-13 months. And we should be off the penny stocks, I would say in a year we will be on an exchange, I dont which one yet were having advisories and lawyers and everyone getting into that. But were a growing stable company; we have plenty of financing, plenty of money available to carry us 3 years if we dont make a dime. But I think well be making money within a year. Right now were building up programming, were building up studios, and we are spending money. Thats where were at.
MW: Well Ive been speaking today with Frank Olson, Frank is President and Chief Executive officer of Triangle Multimedia Limited a company that trades over the counter under the symbol QBID and one that is owner of the Q Television Network. Frank thanks for joining CEOcast today.
FO: Thank You for having me.
MW: This has been Michael Wachs for CEOcast, where Wall Street listens.
http://www.ceocast.com/company_media.cfm?media=2&file=16448
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 04, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tqn:
[b]early morning flush flush flush !!!
Whenever I see U4 posting, I know that Q is gonna 1 step closer to $1 a piece.
Go Q.[This message has been edited by tqn (edited October 03, 2004).]
good news, QTV on RCN chan 255,confirmed..
as all of you know, i refuse to play games, i looked again tonite and qtv is on chan 255, its up and running confirmed.. right now just a lot of whats comin up on qtv no shows. but its up and running.. i am glad to report.. Go QBID..
[/B][/QUOTE]
Unless you know the guy is credible.
always adds that you can trust me appeal. lol
he had me at hello
Not
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Penny, don't even bother - Its the same as if you read "I called Frank today, ..."
Lets wait for a media source confirmation.Unless you know the guy is credible.
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
BigTip - Is the interview the Boston radio station? If not, when and where. Thanks
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THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESEARCH AND DD. MY 4 CHILDREN JUST CAME UP WITH 1 GRAND EACH TO BUY SOME QBID OF THEIR OWN. I AM EXCITED TO THEM. I WILL BE WATCHING FOR A LOW AND TRYING TO PICK UP A MILLION SHARES FOR THEM.
I WISH THERE HAD BEEN A QBID FOR ME WHEN I WAS IN MY 20,S.
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DIANA
[This message has been edited by realityinc21 (edited October 04, 2004).]
all aboard.
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
GOOD MORNING ALL,THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESEARCH AND DD. MY 4 CHILDREN JUST CAME UP WITH 1 GRAND EACH TO BUY SOME QBID OF THEIR OWN. I AM EXCITED TO THEM. I WILL BE WATCHING FOR A LOW AND TRYING TO PICK UP A MILLION SHARES FOR THEM.
I WISH THEY HAD BEEN A QBID FOR ME WHEN I WAS IN MY 20,S.
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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
good luck with the low buy in. we'll hold the train back for you to grab 4 seats. but then we have to leave the station.
lolall aboard.
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 04, 2004).]
I WOULD LOVE TO PICK IN UP IN THE .003'S. THAT MIGHT BE WISHFUL THINKING!!!
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DIANA
keep a close eye on it. if a pr comes out you may miss the price. but i dont need to tell you how to buy. you know what you are doing. good luck
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
I WOULD LOVE TO PICK IN UP IN THE .003'S. THAT MIGHT BE WISHFUL THINKING!!!
quote:
Originally posted by tqn:
trying to p/u 100k at .004 but no luck
Still here...just tutoring myself right now
Hey Diana, didn't know you had four children, too! Have fun.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Good morning...sorry I haven't posted...I subscribed to ottcharts and I've been trying to absorb ALL of this new information. I have so much to learn...And am trying to branch out and look at other potentially great stocks like this one!Still here...just tutoring myself right now
Hey Diana, didn't know you had four children, too! Have fun.
That ottchart stuff is complicated!! It's time like these that I realize I'm not as smart as I thought...still have sooo much to learn and comprehend.
Have a great morning.
im back to work from training for 6 weeks.
it was supposed to be originally 8 weeks of training but they changed the format to 4 weeks training 6 weeks in the field and then 4 more weeks of training.
it works for me.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Good Morning! Shouldn't you be working?That ottchart stuff is complicated!! It's time like these that I realize I'm not as smart as I thought...still have sooo much to learn and comprehend.
Have a great morning.
LOL! Glad to know you're working. Sounds like you are having a good morning, then. Glad your training is over..after that length of time, I'd be plotting my escape!
I always HATED meetings...always seemed like there was that ONE person who always dominated the entire meeting session--the one who loved to talk and pontificate. Oh, how I hate that. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm more 'action,' less talk...I'm pretty hyperactive so I don't like to sit still for too long let alone listen to someone stroke their own ego while holding his/her audience hostage
Sorry, flashbacks to my teaching days. We had on average 4 long meetings a week after school. I was working 11-13 hour days (really) in special education, so I was perpetually exhausted and exasperated. That just about brought me to my knees, even though I'm passionate about teaching!
Anyway, what I was getting at (LOL) is that I'm glad you're out of training... (WAY off topic..so sorry...fairly quiet day, though).
Did I read that you were jumping out of planes? If so, PLEASE be careful. NOW that would freak me out. I don't like flying at all...can't imagine willingly doing that, but I'm glad you had fun....you little dare-devil!
QBID is holding at 0042.
[This message has been edited by sunny (edited October 04, 2004).]
Quiet day...sorry about my "I hate meetings" tirade...just got going and coudn't stop.
I have to head out for a while...so you guys babysit QBID, please. (LOL)
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
LOL Q IS MY SOCIAL LIFE!!
ya i jumped on Satuday it was realy exciting.
i couldnt believe i actually did it. I have a teriffic fear of heights.
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Penny Trader,LOL! Glad to know you're working. Sounds like you are having a good morning, then.
I always HATED meetings...always seemed like there was that ONE person who always dominated the entire meeting session--the one who loved to talk and pontificate. Oh, how I hate that. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm more 'action,' less talk...I'm pretty hyperactive so I don't like to sit still for too long let alone listen to someone stroke their own ego while holding his/her audience hostage
Sorry, flashbacks to my teaching days. We had on average 4 long meetings a week after school. I was working 11-13 hour days (really) in special education, so I was perpetually exhausted and exasperated. That just about brought me to my knees, even though I'm passionate about teaching!
Anyway, what I was getting at (LOL) is that I'm glad you're out of training... (WAY off topic..so sorry...fairly quiet day, though).
Did I read that you were jumping out of planes? If so, PLEASE be careful. NOW that would freak me out. I don't like flying at all...can't imagine willingly doing that, but I'm glad you had fun....you little dare-devil!
QBID is holding at 0042.
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
lolya i jumped on Satuday it was realy exciting.
i couldnt believe i actually did it. I have a teriffic fear of heights.
Rod
DZ
DZ
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Diana,
I've misplaced your phone#.
Will you please call me.DZ
WILL DO!!
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DIANA
MEDIA ADVISORY
You may recall that GLINN did a major article on the Gay
Television Network the beginning of the year that was
distributed free to all publications and members on our
list. GTN announced they were going to be on Echostar's
DISH Network and Dish denied it. GTN never could produce
the contract they claimed to have. The gay community
has heard little from them since.
However, they have not gone away. GTN which changed its name
to Triangle Television Network has announced at least 3
launch dates and did not meet any of them. There is always
some excuse which fails to check out. A couple of months ago
they announced they would launch on September 5, 2001. They
have issued press releases about forthcoming news and events
and have not executed on any of them in a timely manner. They
have announced a tire company as a sponsor, but fail to identify
the company. They have not announced what network will
carry their channel. They have not provided any verifiable
details.
(See the PR's on qbid.net or triangletelevisionnetwork.com)
Now, the most shocking thing of all. The corporations behind
the Triangle Television Network, Triangle Multi-Media, Inc.,
Triangle Broadcasting Corporation and Co-Media Corporation are
all Nevada and Washington corporations. These corporations
operate only in Palm Springs, CA. None of them are registered
with the California Secretary of State as foreign corporations
as the law requires. This means they do not legally exist in
California and they cannot own property, have employees, enter
into contracts or anything else. They do not legally exist.
There are also substantial penalties for this violation of
the law.
This information can be verified on the web site of the
California Secretary of State or by calling that office.
Yet, Triangle Multi-Media, Inc. is a publicly traded company.
Its stock, symbol QBID, is traded on the NASDAQ pink sheets.
Stockholders purchase the stock on the basis of the promised
Triangle Television Network. In reality, none of these stock-
holders own any part of the network. This would appear to be
a massive stock fraud. Also, this is a non-reporting company.
We have long suspected that Triangle and other companies operated
by Frank Olsen from the 1000 E. Tahquitz Canyon, Palm Springs, are
nothing more than pump and dump stock scams. The QBID stock, in
fact, has been recently pumped by a number of promoters paid in
hundreds of thousands of shares of QBID stock. Many of these pumpers
operate on QBID bulletin boards on stock sites trying to entice
individuals into purchasing this stock. Many of the individuals
purchasing this stock are gay/lesbian.
GLINN is issuing this message as a warning and an invitation
to the gay/lesbian media to investigate this for themselves
and develop news articles for their readers.
----------------------
We would also be interested in copies of any news articles
that have been produced recently. We would also like to know
if Triangle has done any advertising in the gay press other
than the unpaid ads promoting its original launch on the
DISH Network.
[This message has been edited by kamikaze (edited October 04, 2004).]
Dish Network Denies Contract and Claims of Homophobia
By Dan F. Schramm, GLINN
January 29, 2001 - (Gay/Lesbian International News Network at www.glinn.com) --- A news release distributed via PRNewswire on
January 16, 2001 by the Gay Television Network
(www.gaytelevisionchannel.com) announcing their launch next month on
the Dish Satellite Network has resulted in the Dish Network denying
on January 23, 2001 that it is carrying the channel. Gay Television
Network (GTN) says it has a contract and representatives of EchoStar
Communications, the parent of Dish Network deny it. The news release
remains viewable on the prnewswire.com web site.
Gay Television Network has been promoting its carriage on the
Dish Network for several months, and has been running advertisements
with the Dish Network logo in gay publications selling subscriptions
to the service. A couple of thousand people have signed up. GTN
customer service representatives are continuing to accept signups as
late as January 23. and stated repeatedly the channel will be on the
Dish Network in the early part of February.
Dish Network associate public relations director Marc Lumpkin
denied they knew anything about GTN until the January 16 news release.
GTN claims its ads were approved by Dish Network, while Dish denied
any knowledge of them or approval for them. Dish Network customer
service has no knowledge of GTN and the programming department via
email has denied its existence continuously since November
when GLINN first learned of GTN.
The Dish Network demanded that GTN remove the Dish name and
logo from its web site and retract the news release. Both parties
confirm that Dish information was removed from the GTN web site.
No public retraction appears to have been issued. GLINN also spoke
with public relations director Juliann Atencio who said that GTN had
apologized. She stated that Dish Network contracts also require that
all news releases including their name be cleared by them in advance.
She denied that GTN had any contract with Dish. The MSN news item
also refers to a service called "Premium Choice" which Dish says
does not exist.
GTN claims that MSN.com rewrote the GTN news release stating
that the Dish Network was going to launch a gay channel and that a
major Mormon Dish stockholder complained to high ranking Dish Network
executives who got cold feet. The article no longer remains on MSN for
checking. (The original MSN news items is available on the GLINN site
at www.glinn.com).Dish Network strongly denied that this was the case
or that Dish Network was homophobic. Lumpkin denied that sexuality was
an issue or that Dish censors content. He refused to state that Dish
Network has no problem with gay content, but pointed out that Dish
carries the Showtime channel and is promoting "Queer as Folk" with
Showtime. Dish Network also carries a number of other adult channels.
Dish Network spokesman Lumpkin stated that the GTN did not
have a contract with the Dish Network, but would not comment if such
a contract was being negotiated. Gay Television Network insists
it has an existing contract, not that one is being negotiated, with
the Dish Network to carry its channel 12 hours a day and 24 hours on
weekends for a fee of $360,000 a month. Investigation shows this
claim has a number of problems.
From this point things get fuzzier and even more complicated.
Gay Television Network is a brand name (and registered trademark) for
a service involving two different corporations. Triangle Multi-
Media Limited, Inc. is producing the network's content and signing up
subscribers. Another company Co-Media is handling the programming
distribution and selling of advertising. Co-Media has not announced
any signed advertisers.
Frank Olsen states that Co-Media has a contract with Dish
Network, and provided a letter on Echostar letterhead signed by Mark
Jackson, Senior Vice President, which could be interpreted to support
the contention the Dish had a contract with Co-Media which was up for
renewal. Jackson's secretary refused to allow this reporter to speak
with him and insisted that only the public relations director could
speak for the company. Dish spokesperson Lumpkin, upon request of
this reporter, double checked and stated they had no agreement with
GTN, Triangle Multi-Media or Co-Media.
Lumpkin also said he was familiar with the Jackson letter,
and that the letter, dated November 28, 2000 was part of a
negotiation and was sent to clarify what the procedure would be if
the proposed contract came to the end of its term. To take the letter
the way GTN claims, would mean that Co-Media had an existing contract
that was coming to an end. Dish Network denies it ever had a contract
with Co-Media, and says that providing this letter to the media
rather than showing an actual contract talks for itself.
GTN points out that it has been selling Dish subscriptions,
and attended Dish training seminars. Unfortunately, this is an
entirely different matter than having a Dish Network channel. Just
about any company can be a reseller of Dish Network systems/
programming. GLINN itself is a dealer for Dish Network systems. On
January 25, GTN was still signing people up for Dish Network
subscriptions including the Gay Television Channel, stating GTN
would be on the Dish Network even after removing the Dish name and
logos from its web site. GTN quoted a price of $64.94 per month
with the first month activation billing of $49.99. GTN customer
representative Tiffany stated that nobody would be charged
until the network launched. Olsen also assured this writer that no
customer would be charged until the network was launched.
Dish Network representatives were flabbergasted at the rates
charged by GTN which do not correspond to any Dish subscription
package. The 150 channel package is $39.99 per month. It would
seem that GTN is charging that plus an additional $24.95 for its own
channel. The $19.95 charge claimed by GTN in its Prnewswire release
and quoted by other media is not supported by GTN's own marketing
statements to its customers and potential customers.
Triangle and Co-Media claim to have invested $3.5 million
on GTN and have another $3.5 committed. Olsen, president of Triangle
was interviewed by this reporter and said that 30 gay and lesbian
people with extensive broadcasting experience were involved in the
venture. Olsen said Triangle owned two radio stations and had sold
Palm Springs television station KPSP (UHF Ch. 55) for $1.2 million
to raise money for the GTN venture. Olsen said he had 30 years of
experience buying and selling distressed television stations. Marvin
Jenkins is CEO of Co-Media. He mentioned two lawyers involved in the
project: Dick Weiner was an attorney for ABC Television for many
years, winner of a Peabody award, and attorney Max Craig, also with
many years of broadcast experience. A number of other employees and
some investors were named, including a doctor who sold his
chiropractic practice to invest the money in GTN.
The beginning of November 2000, GTN was running advertisements
in gay publications. GTN did not pay for these advertisements. They
were placed on what is called "per inquiry." GTN promised to pay
publications $10.00 for each signup of an existing Dish subscriber
and $25.00 for each new Dish subscriber they signed up. Gay Chicago
Magazine, associate publisher Gerry Williams, said that after
running a number of full page ads, a letter from GTN on December 1,
stated 8 people had signed up. Payments are currently overdue. The
January 16 GTN news release reveals that only 2,000 people have
signed up. Other publications, such as Wisconsin's In Step magazine
refused to run the advertisements, according to publisher Bill
Attewell, although the newspaper did run a front page story about GTN.
On January 25, two days after inquiries from GLINN, Co-Media,
Inc. sent a letter to publishers claiming an existing contract, and
accusing Dish Network of homophobia. It apparently sent the "Jackson"
letter as well together with a letter from Co-Media to Dish Network's
Michael Schwimmer complaining of the apparent Dish reversal.
Sources, including Dish Network, wonder how these lawyers
could allow their business, entrusted with $3.5 million of investor's
money, to run newspaper advertisements as early as November 9,
2000 featuring the Dish Network name and logo, without having an
iron-clad contract with Dish Network in place. They asked, "if there
is a contract, why was GTN unable or unwilling to show one, but
instead had to provide a letter" of debatable value?
There is yet another problem with the November 28 letter.
This letter refers to a BTV agreement. BTV means "Business Television"
which is different from a public broadcast channel on the Dish
Network. A BTV channel is used by companies to send private
programming to retail locations or in the case of a major real estate
company to employees at their homes. Dish Network had no idea how
Triangle/Co-Media could manage to do GTN with a business television
channel. There are billing and other issues which render that
approach difficult if not impossible. Dish does not provide any
information on the private BTV channels which could explain why Dish
customer service had never heard of GTN.
These channels are not part of any Dish subscription. This is
perhaps part of the problem. Sources speculated that GTN was trying
to save money by using the BTV approach and Dish would not allow a
broadcast channel to be done that way. A 24/7 broadcast channel is
substantially more expensive. Dish would not comment on previous or
any ongoing negotiations.
The January 16 GTN news release states, "Naturally the Dish
Network's subscriber base of 5 million is a rich resource for new
viewers." Unfortunately, none of those 5 million viewers would know
anything about GTN under a BTV agreement. GTN did not claim they have
a contract for a full broadcast channel on Dish Network nor do the
letters provided support that idea. Thus, the reference to the
potential offered by the viewers of Dish Network appears to be
wishful thinking.
In response to a series of questions faxed to Triangle
Multi-Media's Frank Olsen, this reporter was telephoned and conducted
an extensive interview. During the interview, GLINN was invited to
visit GTN offices and see its offices and studio facility. On January
26 we faxed Olsen at two known working fax numbers and accepted the
invitation subject to a number of conditions, including access to
financial records, documents such as the alleged contract, and
agreements to broadcast the movies named in their press releases and
on their web site. We also requested to videotape all interviews and
photograph the facility. As of midnight January 29, this fax has
been ignored. The release of this news story, originally planned for
January 23 was delayed while we waited for an expected response.
Interestingly, a news story linked on the GTN web site, dated
January 26, 2001 has appeared on a Michigan gay news web site
(www.metrog.com) authored by a person only identified as "Crusader"
which pretty closely follows the information provided to GLINN. The
author claims to have visited the GTN studio in Palm Springs, CA and
attests to its existence. This story also quotes another report on
the www.tvinsite.com web news site. An extensive search of that web
site fails to turn up any mention of GTN. The author also claims that
Marc Lumpkin claimed on January 26, several days after he was
interviewed by GLINN, to have no knowledge of the situation. The
article states "spokesperson Mark Lumkin said he had no idea what
I was talking about." ("Crusader" fails to spell either the first
name or last name of the Dish spokesman correctly.)
This reporter has to wonder why GTN didn't invite a gay
print publication with known credibility to visit their offices, or
at minimum, why photographs did not accompany the article, when
there are millions of dollars on the line. Why does the author of
such an important story go by a fictitious pen name? This reporter
has to wonder why that reporter did not ask to see the contract or
attest to its existence in the report, something GLINN asked to do.
With the controversy they knew is brewing and the knowledge of
GLINN's news story, it seems like much too little, much too late.
EVERYTHING IS MOVING FORWARD. WHILE MOST WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S DROPPED
TO
THE CURRENT SUB-PENNY OF .008+/- FROM .018 A FEW WEEKS AGO AND A RECENT
HIGH
OF .027 MEANS IT'S A FRAUD. WELL A .02 STOCK FROM .0001 ISN'T ALL THAT
MUCH
OF ANYTHING TO BASE YOUR OPINION ON. MOST ARE ATTACKING THIS STOCK AT THE
..02 LEVEL AS THOUGH IT'S LISTED ON NASDAQ WITH FULL REPORTING. IF THE
STOCK
WERE SITTING AT .05 RIGHT NOW, NO ONE WOULD BE COMPLAINING AND YOU WOULD
HEAR THE CONTINUED SINGING AND PRAISES OF HOW WONDERFUL AND WHAT A GREAT
FUTURE Q-TV HAS. THE BOTTOM LINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH THIS STOCK, LAUNCH
AND GIVE US THE STRENGTH OF ADVERTISERS. WELL WE HAVE 50% OF THE EQUATION
BEING TEST LAUNCH MAY 15. SOFT LAUNCH JUNE 1 AND "FULL" 8 HR PROGRAMMING
REPEATED 3 TIMES FOR A 24-HR BROADCAST. FRANK OLSEN (CEO) HAS MADE IT
CLEAR
HE WILL NOT RELEASE INFO PERTAINING TO CARRIAGE, MEANING CARRIER
PROVIDERS,
UNTIL HE HAS THE SIGNED CONTRACT IN HAND. WE CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT CONCRETE
FACTS WE HAVE AND THE LAUNCH IS A CONCRETE FACT. YOU CAN TURN ON TV AND
SEE
IT.
Q-TV IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND IN MY OPINION, AT .008 A GOOD TIME TO JUMP
ON
BOARD. YOUR SITTING IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME WITH A
GAY/LESBIAN
TV STATION.
A FEW THINGS TO REMEMBER ABOUT THIS STOCK.. 1 IT'S A PINK. 2 PEOPLE ON
MESSAGE BOARDS CREATE 95% OF SEC COMPLAINTS ABOUT A STOCK AND THOSE 95%
ARE
USUALLY PINK SHEET STOCKS. MOST PEOPLE WHO POST DO NOT KNOW HOW STOCKS
WORK
AND SIMPLY BELIEVE THAT SINCE A STOCK IS GOING UP IN PRICE, IT MUST BE
DOING
SOMETHING RIGHT AND WHEN IT GOES DOWN, SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG (FRAUD).
WE
LIVE IN A TABLOIDS SOCIETY AND PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH WHO BRITANY
SPEARS IS GETTING MARRIED TO AND KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT THEN THEY DO ABOUT
THE
STOCKS THEY ARE CLAIMING TO BE FRAUDS. ALSO THE SAME PEOPLE WHO GET ON
BOARDS AND CLAIM FRAUD OR WHAT A JOKE A CERTAIN STOCK IS ARE THE SAME
ONE'S
WHO SIT AT HOME, CLICK ON A MESSAGE BOARD TO RANT AND HAVE DONE ABSOLUTLY
NOTHING FOR THE COMPANY AND IT'S SHARE PRICE. THEY ALL USE THE STANDARD
WELL I OWN THE COMPANY I'M INVESTED IN BUT AREN'T WILLING TO DO ANYTHING
TO
HELP. CASE IN POINT, NUMEROUS PEOPLE IN MIAMI OWN Q-TV AND NOT ONE OF
THEM
HAS DONE ANYTHING TO ASSIST IN PROMOTION FOR Q-TV IN A HIGH POPULATION OF
GAY PEOPLE BUT WILL BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW Q-TV ISN'T
DOING ANYTHING.
SO I'LL HOLD THIS STOCK FOR THE NEXT YEAR TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IS
TRULY
INVOLVED IN STARTING A TELEVISION STATION AS WELL AS A GAY ONE IN THIS DAY
AND AGE. SUCH A GOOD IDEA A COMPANY SUCH A CBS/VIACOM ANNOUNCES THAT IT'S
FOLLOWING THROUGH AND WILL BEGIN BROADCAST FEB 18, 2005 OF IT'S GAY "LOGO"
NETWORK.
I NEVER PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HOW HORRIBLE A STOCK IS
WHEN
THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT WORKS ON THE DOUBLE
STANDARD PRINCIPAL TO FIT THEIR VIEWS.
CASE AND POINT. LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE SAYING QBID IS A FRAUD AND HAVE NO
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO START A TV STATION OR WHAT'S INVOLVED AND FURTHER,
THEY CAN SAY IT'S A FRAUD BUT PROVE IT. AGAIN, WE GO BACK TO 50% WAS
GETTING A SIGNAL UP AND RUNNING WHICH WE ARE AND THE OTHER 25% IS SIGNAL
PROVIDERS AND 25% IS ADVERTISERS.
ULTIMATELY, FRANK AND COMPANY ARE WORKING IN CALIFORNIA TRYING TO MAKE
THIS
WORK AND THEIR FINANCIAL SUCCESS IS BASED UPON THE SHARES THEY ARE ABLE TO
SELL ONCE THEY ARE UP AND RUNNING A COMPLETE NETWORK.
FACTS ARE:
SIGNAL IS UP 24HRS
FRANK MADE IT CLEAR HE MADE THE MISTAKE RELEASEING SIGNAL INFO BACK IN
2000
WHEN HE WAS NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO SO AND CAUSED PROBLEMS SO HE'S NOT
RELEASING THE CURRENT (PENDING) INFO HE HAS UNTIL CONFIRMATION.
YOU CAN FORM YOUR OWN CONCLUSION WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING
ADVERTISERS. I BELIEVE THAT SINCE WE HAVE THE ABOVE 2 FACTS THAT
ADVERTISING IS A GIVEN.
2SLOWINBED, err 2fastinbed, errr 2dogsandapoddleinbed,...
Thanks for posting your dribble drabble from almost FIVE yearsa ago!
Peace Jigga-nips.
"the article is no longer available on MSN."
A quarrelsome man never lacks words.
quote:
by "SLURPY" <U4TSAF2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 6, 2004 at 04:27 PMI NEVER PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HOW HORRIBLE A STOCK IS
WHEN THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT WORKS ON THE DOUBLE
STANDARD PRINCIPAL TO FIT THEIR VIEWS.
I like this part of what slurpy had to say and will take his advice.
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Diana,
I've misplaced your phone#.
Will you please call me.DZ
I AM PACKED!!
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
HAVE FUN!!!
MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE JAUNT TO VEGAS!! THANKS SUNNY--I ALWAYS HAVE FUN!!
WELL, SPENT THE KIDS MONEY ON MBAH TODAY AT .026.
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Pennytrader, congrats on your jump!
There's a small airport about 5 miles from where I live and every weekend dozens of jumpers are floating down at variable speeds with the Rockies in the background. It's quite a sight and gets me a little itchy to try it. For the cost of another jumper, around $100., they will videotape your whole jump, from preboarding plane to statement after landing.
If you do it again, you could check for that where your at.
DZ
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Reality I thought you were going to spend the kids money on QBID ?????
HUMMMM. NOW LET ME THINK??? MBAH UP 50% OR QBID DOWN 2%. IT WAS KIND OF A NO BRAINER!!
NOW I HAVE MORE MONEY TO BUY MORE QBID WITH WHEN IT HITS BOTTOM. IMHO .0036!!!
------------------
DIANA
nice move
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
HUMMMM. NOW LET ME THINK??? MBAH UP 50% OR QBID DOWN 2%. IT WAS KIND OF A NO BRAINER!!NOW I HAVE MORE MONEY TO BUY MORE QBID WITH WHEN IT HITS BOTTOM. IMHO .0036!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
This is huge....
Chicago Gay Games Signs Multi-million
Deal for TV/Radio Broadcast Rights
Letter of Intent Signed with California-based Q Television Network
CHICAGO, IL Chicago organizers of Gay Games VII today announced a multi-million dollar cash and barter deal assigning television and radio broadcast rights to the Q Television network. Q Television Network and Chicago Games, Inc. (CGI) signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) marking the final negotiation period for an agreement transferring the media rights to the California-based cable network.The LOI outlines the broad terms of the proposed deal, including broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advanced Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events from 15 to 22 July 2006. As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, will unscramble its signal during live coverage of the Gay Games in 2006. Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Televisions cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
Since BigRod posted this last week, I brought it over for those who missed reading it.
quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
Rock Star Melissa Etheridge
Signs Up To Support the Gay Games
CHICAGO, IL -- Internationally acclaimed rock-star Melissa Etheridge signed on today as the newest Gay Games Ambassador, joining a growing list of athletes, artists, activists and celebrities supporting the movement in advance of Gay Games VII, scheduled for 15-22 July 2006 in Chicago. Registration for the quadrennial event opened 1 July 2004 online at GayGamesChicago.org.The Federation of Gay Games (FGG) made the announcement jointly with Chicago Games, Inc., the host of Gay Games VII. ?Melissa Etheridge is a cultural icon and highly regarded proponent of human rights,? said FGG co-president Roberto Mantaci, from his home in Paris.
http://www.chicago2006.org/
Thanks again, Ron, for this post!
Do you know what WD40 stands for? Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try.
So you better believe they didn't have a name until they were settled on the product.
They were originally called "Rocket Chemical Company".
I personally like Q Television Network. Q stands for something. and Triangle is the parent company.
the company i have worked for has changed its name 3 times since 1999 and we are bigger then ever.
name changes dont mean squat these days
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
U4 mentions name changes. Do you know how many times a "start-up" company changes their name until they are settled on 1?Do you know what WD40 stands for? Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try.
So you better believe they didn't have a name until they were settled on the product.
They were originally called "Rocket Chemical Company".I personally like Q Television Network. Q stands for something. and Triangle is the parent company.
COMMERCIAL Closet, a Web site that promotes better representation of gays in advertising, got a boost from an unexpected source: the right-wing American Family Association. After the AFA alerted members to a Downy ad featuring two gay men in bed together, Commercial Closet was swarmed with AFA members trying to find it, nearly downing its server. "We ended up getting one and a half million hits per hour," says Commercial Closet director Michael Wilke, who noted that the Downy ad is four years old and ran only in Canada. "It's ironic that it worked out this way, but we've actually benefited from all this exposure. A lot of people have been introduced to us for the first time." http://www.nypost.com/gossip/29655.htm
All exposure is good exposure, as they say...
Just wait 'til we get some REAL Q bashing.
~BB
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
... blah, blah, blah...
I would say "Thank you for your opinion", but now you're not even typing your own stuff. Cheater! (and still a LOSER)
. . . F L U S H ! ! . . .
PER FRANK OLSEN:
Q-TELEVISION WILL SPEND $370,000 PER MONTH FOR OUTSIDE PROGRAMMING. $200,000 ON PRODUCTION. REDUCED MONTHLY EXPENSE TO $33,000 PER MONTH.
SINCE 2000 QBID HAS DONE NOTTA AND FOR THE CACULATION HEREIN, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THE REDUCED RATE OF $33,000 PER MONTH.
$370,000 + $200,000 = $570,000/MONTH. NOW ADD $33,000 IS $603,000 PER MONTH.
$33,000 PER MONTH SINCE 2000 IS 48 MONTHS TOTAL $1,584,000 TO DATE.
$603,000 TIMES 12 MONTHS IS $7,236,000.
150,000 SUBS AT $7.95/MONTH IS $14,310,000.
RCN GETS 30% TO 50% INDUSTRY AVERAGE FOR THE SIGNAL AND I'LL LOWBALL IT AT 30%. $14,310,000 TIMES 30% IS $4,293,000 LEAVING $10,017,000.
$10,017,000 MINUS OPERATING EXPENSES ($7,236,000) EQUALS $2,781,000.
$2,781,000 NET PROFIT.
FRANK TELLS US HE HAS SECURED FINANCING TO GUARANTEE 5-YEARS BROADCAST. FOLLOWED UP BY HE HAS HEDGE FUNDS GIVING HIM A "LOAN" OF $2 MILLION DOLLARS TO SECURE THE FIRST YEAR OF BROADCAST.
WELL WAIT. HOW DOES $2 MILLION DOLLARS SECURE THE FIRST YEAR BROADCAST WHEN BY FRANKS OWN NUMBERS, THE COST IS:
$370,000 + $200,000 = $570,000/MONTH. NOW ADD $33,000 IS $603,000 PER MONTH IS $603,000 TIMES 12 MONTHS IS $7,236,000. BUT WAIT FRANK, HOW DID YOU SECURE THE FIRST YEAR BROADCAST ($2-MILLION) WHEN YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE $7,236,000 (SEVEN MILLION).
SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RUN YOUR STATION ON $2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST YEAR. LET ALONE YOUR 5-YEAR BROADCAST.
SO FOR THE SAKE OF MATH.
IF 2 YEARS OF FINANCING TO SECURE 1-YEAR OF BROADCAST IS $2 MILLION DOLLARS. YOU TOLD US YOU SECURED 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST SO WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT 5-YEARS TIMES $2-MILLION PER YEAR IS $10,000,000. NOW WE HAVE 5-YEARS AND THEN YOU ANNOUNCES YOU HAVE 1-YEAR FINANCING BROADCAST SECURED SO THAT TOTALS 6-YEARS AT $12,000,000 (TWELVE-MILLION DOLLARS).
SO $12,000,000 IN LOANS WITH BUSINESS LOANS GENERAL FOR 10-YEAR PERIOD MEANS YOU HAVE A MONTHLY PAYMENT OF $145,593.11 AT 8% OR $1,747,117.32 PER YEAR. NOW ADD THAT TO YOUR MONTHLY OPERATING EXPENSES WHICH IS $603,000 PER MONTH GIVING US A TRUE OPERATING EXPENSE OF $748,000 OR $8,983,116 PER YEAR BRINGING OUR NET INCOME TO:
GROSS: $14,310,000
RCN: $4,293,000
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$10,013,000
EXPENSES: $8,983,116
NET PROFIT: $1,033,882
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $33,000 PER MONTH OR $1,584,000 IN FUNDS THAT HAVE MAKE FRANKS OFFICE RENT PAYMENT, ELECTRIC, FED HIM AND HIS STAFF FOR THE PAST 4-YEARS. WHERE DID $1,584,000 COME FROM WHEN THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO INCOME FOR QBID FOR THE PAST 4-YEARS AND TO DATE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SOURCE OF INCOME.
SO ON THIS $1-MILLION DOLLAR PLUS IN NET INCOME, FRANK TELLS US THAT INDUSTRY INSIDERS CLAIM QBID TO BE WORTH $1-BILLION DOLLARS.
FURTHER, RCN HAS AT BEST 400,000 SUBSCRIBERS. IF 3% OF THE POPULATION IS GAY, HOW MANY OF THEM WILL ORDER A GAY STATION? SO LET'S SAY 1% OF THE 3% ORDERS GAY TV. THAT IS A TOTAL OF:
DUM DA DUM.... DRUM ROLL........
4,000 SUBSCRIBERS.
I WAS ON THE GOLF COURSE WHEN A FROG SAID "RIBBIT 9-IRON". I PULLED THE 9-IRON AND THE BALL WENT RIGHT IN.
THE NEXT HOLE, A FROG SAID "RIBBIT 7-IRON". I PULLED THE 7-IRON AND THE BALL WENT RIGHT IN.
I PICKED UP THIS FROG AND ASKED HIM IF HE WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO ME "RIBBIT, YES I AM" HE SAID.
AT THE END OF THE 18TH, HE SAID TO ME "RIBBIT, TAKE ME TO THE BAR" SO I TOOK HIM TO THE BAR WITH ME.
AT THE BAR HE SAID "RIBBIT, I WANT A SCOTCH AND SODA" SO I ORDERED HIM A SCOTCH AND SODA.
HE THEN TOLD ME "RIBBIT, TAKE ME TO YOUR PLACE" AND I WENT HOME WITH HIM.
HE THEN SAID "RIBBIT, KISS ME AND I'LL TURN INTO A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN" AND I KISSED HIM AND HE TURNED INTO A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN.
AND THAT YOUR HONOR IS HOW THE 14-YEAR OLD ENDED UP IN MY HOTEL ROOM.
FRANK OLSEN
FRANK TELLS US THAT BROUGHT ABOUT 50,000 INQUIRIES (WHICH IS A LIE).
FRANK TELLS US THAT BROUGHT ABOUT 100,000 #800-HOTLINE HITS (WHICH IS A LIE).
BUT YET, RCN CABLE WHICH IS BANKRUPT AND HAS 400,000 SUBSCRIBERS WILL PROVIDE US WITH 3% OF THE POPULATION THAT IS GAY AND 1% OF THAT 3% WILL ORDER QBID LEAVING US WITH A GRAND TOTAL OF....
4,000 SUBSCRIBERS.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THE 150,000 INQUIRIES THAT COX CABLE PROVIDED US WITH A 12-HOUR UNANNOUNCED BROADCAST THAT DISAPPEARED AS QUICKLY AS IT APPEARED, LET'S MOVE OVER TO RCN WHICH IS BANKRUPT.
GOOD BUSINESS MOVE THERE FRANK <BURP>
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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
FRANK DOES A "SOFT" LAUNCH ON COX CABLE. LASTED 12+ OR SO HOURS FOR A SINGLE DAY.FRANK TELLS US THAT BROUGHT ABOUT 50,000 INQUIRIES (WHICH IS A LIE).
FRANK TELLS US THAT BROUGHT ABOUT 100,000 #800-HOTLINE HITS (WHICH IS A LIE).
BUT YET, RCN CABLE WHICH IS BANKRUPT AND HAS 400,000 SUBSCRIBERS WILL PROVIDE US WITH 3% OF THE POPULATION THAT IS GAY AND 1% OF THAT 3% WILL ORDER QBID LEAVING US WITH A GRAND TOTAL OF....
4,000 SUBSCRIBERS.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THE 150,000 INQUIRIES THAT COX CABLE PROVIDED US WITH A 12-HOUR UNANNOUNCED BROADCAST THAT DISAPPEARED AS QUICKLY AS IT APPEARED, LET'S MOVE OVER TO RCN WHICH IS BANKRUPT.
GOOD BUSINESS MOVE THERE FRANK <BURP>
U4 you are without a doubt, my favorite basher. If you lived by me I would invite you over for dinner and you could entertain my kids. Think about it "Uncle U4" ( Don't forget to bring them presents.)
[This message has been edited by Clyde Crashcup (edited October 04, 2004).]
all you really needed to say was what you really feel:
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
FRANK OLSEN WILL BE PROFITABLE
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 04, 2004).]
after talking with frank this afternoon i really didn't get much. Buyback has started...(We all new that) We should see the 2nd carrier announcment this month. No time frame. He repeated what an article had said hope to have 55% come jan.
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Who knows? Maybe he's right again.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Amazing how you can mix numbers up and make them look real.all you really needed to say was what you really feel:
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 04, 2004).]
NEWS Just out LOOK Our Q-Channel has a NEW Show called THE AGENDA $
O.K. GUYS & GIRLS LOOK AT OUR NEW Q-CHANNEL SHOW CALLED THE AGENDA
From The Producers Desk
News And Things:
October 2, 2004
It has become a very exciting time for GLBT entertainment with the launch of The Q Television Network, and eventually some other networks.
GLBT programming and the GLBT market is no longer a novelty item, or something to just wonder about. Major advertisers are sponsoring our events, magazines and soon, our television programs.
As we go forward with THE AGENDA! airing on The Q Television Network we are moving towards our goal of bringing and sharing information not only within the GLBT community, but with people everywhere. No matter what community they belong to.
GLBT sports, and stories about the people who participate will begin to be told. From the quiet life in a country town, to the propaganda machines of those who oppose us, we will follow people and stories that relate to and are about us.
As 2004 progresses and passes into 2005, we will be using many of the stories, segments and show ideas that have been sent to us.
With that in mind we would like to thank each of you who have been sending us ideas and suggestions for THE AGENDA!
If you have an idea for a segment or a show we would love to hear from you!
So don't forget, if you see us about town shooting, come over and say hi! Or if you have an idea for a segment or even an entire show, we would love to hear from you!
http://www.herounit.com/apdesk.htm
By: pennymonger
04 Oct 2004, 09:43 PM EDT
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NY Meeting With Time Warner
My source tells me that the meeting in NY is with Time Warner. Q had a successful meeting with TW in L.A. last week. Next carrier(s) to be announced soon.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Wouldn't this be sweet!
By: pennymonger
04 Oct 2004, 09:43 PM EDT
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NY Meeting With Time WarnerMy source tells me that the meeting in NY is with Time Warner. Q had a successful meeting with TW in L.A. last week. Next carrier(s) to be announced soon.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
new rumor???? anyone to confirm this??
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My Name is Tom Sheridan and I am the International Gay Rodeo Association Spokesperson. And, yes Q Television is going to be broadcasting our IGRA Finals Rodeo and 2004 Convention. We are talking about them covering all the Rodeos on Q Television next year.
Tom Sheridan
IGRA PR/Marketing Spokesperson
630 776 4426
"We ride and never worry about the fall... guess that's just the Cowboy in us all"
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/ how to lube a guy in 10 days /- this title is killing me!!! LOL!
===== http://www.portlandphoenix.com/television/documents/02958184.asp
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o.k., so we are surrounded by nice and upbeat news and coverage but stock price flatlined! I am very tempted to add into my short term lot!
The lead in was gay TV--I was holding my breath!
It will be shown again tomorrow afternoon/evening in most markets.
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"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
October 2, 2004
It has become a very exciting time for GLBT entertainment with the launch of The Q Television Network...
GLBT programming and the GLBT market is no longer a novelty item, or something to just wonder about. Major advertisers are sponsoring our events, magazines and soon, our television programs.
As we go forward with THE AGENDA! airing on The Q Television Network we are moving towards our goal of bringing and sharing information not only within the GLBT community, but with people everywhere. No matter what community they belong to.
quote:
Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
from another board.
courtesy of Pennymonger.new rumor???? anyone to confirm this??
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My Name is Tom Sheridan and I am the International Gay Rodeo Association Spokesperson. And, yes Q Television is going to be broadcasting our IGRA Finals Rodeo and 2004 Convention. We are talking about them covering all the Rodeos on Q Television next year.
Tom Sheridan
IGRA PR/Marketing Spokesperson
630 776 4426
"We ride and never worry about the fall... guess that's just the Cowboy in us all"
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IGRA Public Relations/Marketing Seminar Schedule for 2003
PUBLIC RELATIONS SPOKESPERSON: Tom Sheridan: Phone: (615) 497-7511 E-Mail: spokesman@igra.com
at this site: http://www.asgra.org/newsletters/2003/04.htm
I also emailed him and will post any responses I get.
quote:[/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Trader O:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
[b]from another board.
courtesy of Pennymonger.new rumor???? anyone to confirm this??
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My Name is Tom Sheridan and I am the International Gay Rodeo Association Spokesperson. And, yes Q Television is going to be broadcasting our IGRA Finals Rodeo and 2004 Convention. We are talking about them covering all the Rodeos on Q Television next year.
Tom Sheridan
IGRA PR/Marketing Spokesperson
630 776 4426
"We ride and never worry about the fall... guess that's just the Cowboy in us all"
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I wonder if there's any weight to this little jewel...
By: superqbid
05 Oct 2004, 02:57 AM EDT
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BIG NEWS ! BIG NEWS !!!
By: raychr01
05 Oct 2004, 02:55 AM EDT
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http://www. portlandphoenix. com/television/documents/02958184. asp
Interesting article in the Oct. 5, 2004 Portland Phoenix, especially the following: "...Triangle Television Network (TTN), a sort of lavender-lined MGM, located in the Coachella Valley. In association with Time Warner Cable, TTN plans to produce an ambitious array of original programming aimed at gay and lesbian viewers."
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whizknock
Just can't get past that FIVE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR targeted,,,,,,,
What? SIX HUNDRED BILLION?
Ok, Ok. I just can't get around that $600,000,000,000.oo of disposable income of our targeted audience.
Niether can The CEOs of many a Fortune 500 Companies that are drooling over the prospect of developing an intensely loyal consummer base that weilds that kind financial clout! My bet is they've already shot the commercials.
No matter how I do the math one percent of SIX HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS keeps coming up as SIX BILLION DOLLARS. One tenth of one percent is SIX HUNDRED MILLION BUCKS!
One tiny azz tenth of one percent,,,,,,
$600,000,000.oo!
That kind of revenue alone would put this over a buck easy.
That's just one reason that it's so difficult to find a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network that trades for less than $1 a share. That & the fact that none exsist. That's right,,,NONE!!!!
There are no real TV Networks trading under a dollar a share.
Think about this for a minute.
What does the word NETWORK imply?
Am I the only one that sees where this is headed?
Q TV Channel
Q TV Movie Channel
Q TV Music Channel
Q TV News Channel
Q TV Comedy Channel
Q TV Social History Channel
Q TV Movie Channel II
Q TV Sports Channel
Q TV Movie Channel III R rated
The list goes on,,,
There's only one way I do not see $1 per share. Frank sells the whole thing & they take it private.
For me this is a genuine long term play.
Matter of time.
Nothing more, nothing less.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
What? SIX HUNDRED BILLION?
Ok, Ok. I just can't get around that $600,000,000,000.oo of disposable income of our targeted audience.
Niether can The CEOs of many a Fortune 500 Companies that are drooling over the prospect of developing an intensely loyal consummer base that weilds that kind financial clout! My bet is they've already shot the commercials.
No matter how I do the math one percent of SIX HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS keeps coming up as SIX BILLION DOLLARS. One tenth of one percent is SIX HUNDRED MILLION BUCKS!
One tiny azz tenth of one percent,,,,,,
$600,000,000.oo!
That kind of revenue alone would put this over a buck easy.
That's just one reason that it's so difficult to find a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network that trades for less than $1 a share. That & the fact that none exsist. That's right,,,NONE!!!!
There are no real TV Networks trading under a dollar a share.
Think about this for a minute.
What does the word NETWORK imply?
Am I the only one that sees where this is headed?
Q TV Channel
Q TV Movie Channel
Q TV Music Channel
Q TV News Channel
Q TV Comedy Channel
Q TV Social History Channel
Q TV Movie Channel II
Q TV Sports Channel
Q TV Movie Channel III R rated
The list goes on,,,
There's only one way I do not see $1 per share. Frank sells the whole thing & they take it private.
For me this is a genuine long term play.
Matter of time.
Nothing more, nothing less.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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[This message has been edited by whizknock (edited October 05, 2004).]
Our Marketing Department is currently in negations with that Network and
hope to provide the service soon, more to follow.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Sxxxxxxx [mailto:jamessxxxxxxx@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:24 PM
To: Keller, James
Subject: Q Telelvision
Hello,
I was interested in knowing if you are planning to carry Q Telelvision.
I
subscribe to Time Warner, but Q Telelvision is only being carried by
RCN.
Your reply is appreciated.
Thanks.... James
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
how did you find mbah?nice move
MBAH WAS ON THE TOP OF MY WATCH LIST FOR THE AFTER A RUN BOUNCE PLAY. USUALLY HAPPENS 8-10 TRADING DAYS AFTER THE LAST RUN. MBAH RAN TO .045 ON 9/21.
VOLUME WAS MY "ALERT".
http://quote.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=MBAH
TREND BUY--
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DIANA
RMSG started a huge downtrend in March whereas QBID started end of April. Just now 7 months later did RMSG spike up 100% from .25 to .50. QBID has only been in a downtrend for 5-6 months. We will see that spike very soon.
But if you look at the pattern, its somewhat similar. RMSG went from .40 to $3! QBID went from .0025 to .028
It's not done. Look for the dips. HUGE news out regarding Microsoft agreement.
GO QBID !!!!!!
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What do you say to those that say QTN is privately owned by Frank and it is being subsidised by investors of QBID who will never see a return on their money? In other words, we own QBID and have no ties to QTN. Obviously I read this on a another BB.
I will say...life is a risk....much more penny stocks. I have seen stocks go from 5 cents to 0.0001 & from 0.0001 to 5 cents & eventually one of these hit the dollars... The beauty of this risk is that you have a chance of making some serious money if you have the patience. QBID has potential...if you believe that you should stay in it....but it if it does not launch then everybody who stay will end up lossing their investment.
Goodluck....
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GLTA
Raja
Always do your DD before Investing or Daytrading
Read the previous posts and I sure would love to hear that TW will be our second carrier...officially! Oh, how sweet that will be.
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DIANA
STILL LOOKING FOR A LOW ON QBID--JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT ENTRY!! ALMOST DOUBLED THE KIDS MONEY!! I LOVE THEM AND I LOVE QBID!!
WOOPS!! DID DOUBLE THEIR MONEY!!
MY BAD
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What do you say to those that say QTN is privately owned by Frank and it is being subsidised by investors of QBID who will never see a return on their money? In other words, we own QBID and have no ties to QTN. Obviously I read this on a another BB.
I'd say "show me some proof". Anyone can say anything about any stock but it doesn't make it true (U4, are you listening?). Make your statement and then point us to a legitimate source for the information.
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Peeper
TODAY, WE ARE AT A SERIOUS MOMENT FOR QBID. I AM CONNECTING WITH THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE MOMENT, NOT THE CRITICS. NOW ABOUT THOSE FACTS. I CHARGE THAT FRANK OLSEN IS INCOMPETENT AND I HAVE LISTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE CHANGING PATTERN OF STATEMENTS AND FLAT OUT LIES HE DOES AND CONTINUES TO PUT OUT VIA PRESS RELEASE. MY CRITICS TRIPPED OVER THEMSELVES TO POINT OUT THAT Q-TV IS BROADCASTING WHEN IT FACT IT HAD NOT. JUST UNTIL RECENTLY, BEING OCTOBER 1, 2004, THE SIGNAL WAS LAUNCHED IN SAN FRANCISCO. WE WERE TOLD THAT MAY 15 WAS THE SOFT LAUNCH AND THAT JUNE 1 WAS THE HARD LAUNCH WHICH WAS FOR ADVERTISERS TO SEE THE PROGRAMMING FIRST HAND. ADDITIONALLY, WE WERE TOLD ADDITIONALLY CITIES WOULD BE ADDED BEYOND SAN FRANCISCO ON OCTOBER 4 AND TO DATE, NOTHING.
BUT LIKE SO MANY THINGS IN LIFE, TIMING IS EVERYTHING. FRANK OLSEN DOWNFALL HAPPENED WHEN HE RELEASED A PRESS THAT MIS-QUOTED THE MAY 15 SOFT LAUNCH AND DELAYED THE SOFT LAUNCH. ONLY TO SEE THE STOCK PRICE FALL FROM THE .013 RANGE TO .0055 AND 800-MILLION SHARES TRADED (SOLD OFF) IN A MATTER OF 2-HOURS. SEEING THAT JUST HAPPENED, MYSELF AS WELL AS MANY OTHER STOCK BROKERS FILED INSTANT COMPLAINTS TO THE SEC. FRANK OLSEN WAS AWARE OF THIS AND ISSUED A CORRECTED PRESS RELEASE CLARIFYING THE MISTAKE AND THE STOCK PRICE CLIMBED TO .01+ RANGE RIGHT AFTER THAT CORRECTED PRESS WAS RELEASED. YET YOU STILL TO THIS DAY HAVE PEOPLE CLAIMING HOW U4 FREAKED OUT A FEW MONTHS BACK. JUNE 1 CAME AND WENT WITH NO Q-TV SIGNAL FOR ADVERTISERS TO SEE. JUST MOST RECENT, THE SIGNAL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UP SEPTEMBER 1 WHICH IT WAS NOT. THEN IT WAS MOVED TO SEPTEMBER 4 WHICH IT WAS NOT ONLY TO BE TOLD AS A LIE THAT WEATHER PROBLEMS FORCED Q-TV TO MOVE TO TEXAS FROM LOUISIANA. NEVER DURING THIS TIME DID FRANK OLSEN EVER DIVULGE THAT THE SIGNAL WAS NEVER ACTIVATED UNTIL OCTOBER 1 SINCE FRANK OLSEN LEFT IT HANGING UN-ADDRESSED THAT THE SIGNAL WOULD NOT START UNTIL OCTOBER 1; THAT INFO HAD TO BE DISCOVERED BY MESSAGE BOARD PATRONS MAKING PHONE CALLS THEMSELVES ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT RCN ITSELF BY ITS OPERATORS ANSWERING THE PHONES THAT THEY HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF Q-TV OR A NEW GAY-TV STATION FOR THAT MATTER OR THAT IT WOULD LAUNCH SOMETIME IN OCTOBER.
I ALSO CHARGED THAT FRANK OLSEN HAS AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY TO RELEASE PRESS THAT IS INACCURATE, FLAT OUT LIES, MIS-REPRESENTATIONS OF ACTUAL FACTS AND DOES SO ON A CONTINUING BASIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN. FRANK OLSEN CONTINUES TO ADD AND SUBTRACT FROM ISSUES SUCH AS HE HAS STUDIO SPACES RENTED ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHICH IS A FLAT OUT LIE, THEN TELLS US HE HAS A BUILDING HE JUST BOUGHT FOR PRODUCTION, THEN SAYS AGAIN HE HAS STUDIO SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
FRANK OLSEN AND HIS FOLLOWERS ON MESSAGE BOARDS DERISIVELY CALL U4 AND OTHERS BASHERS BECAUSE IT FITS WITH THEIR WARPED BELIEF THAT FRANK OLSEN IS CREDIBLE. BASIC FUNDAMENTAL MATH SHOWS FRANK OLSEN IS OUT OF HIS TREE WHEN YOU HAVE $2-MILLION IN FIRST YEAR BROADCAST MONEY BUT $7-MILLION DOLLARS EXPENSES. FRANK OLSEN RELEASES THAT HE HAS GUARANTEED 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST ONLY TO SHORTLY TELL US THEREAFTER HE HAS SECURED $2-MILLION IN LOANS TO GUARANTEE 1-YEAR OF BROADCASTING. THEN, HE ADDS 5-6 BILLION SHARES AND AUTHORIZES 50-BILLION MORE TO GIVE QBID A TOTAL OF 71-BILLION SHARES FOLLOWED BY HE EXPECTS QBID TO BE PROFITABLE IN 12-13 MONTHS, WE ARE STARTING A BUYBACK AND IN 6-MONTHS THE STOCK WILL BE UPGRADED. FRANK OLSEN OWES ME $10.00; PAYS ME BACK AND IMMEDIATELY ASKS FOR ANOTHER $12.00 AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HIM ANNOUNCING A BUYBACK AND ISSUING ANOTHER 50+ BILLION SHARES.
AND MY CRITICS LOVE TO POINT OUT THAT I HAD NICE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT QBID AND FRANK OLSEN JUST A FEW MONTHS BACK. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND I MEANT IT. BUT AGAIN, TIMING IS EVERYTHING. THIS WAS BEFORE THE ISSUES THAT CONTINUE TO COME UP TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH FRANK OLSEN LYING FLAT OUT, MIS-LEADING STATEMENTS AND BOLSTERING ITEMS SUCH AS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR DEAL FOR SOME GAY-OLYMPICS THAT FRANK HAS NO FUNDS COMING FROM BUT HE IMPLIES THAT Q-TV IS ON THE RECEIVING END OF A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR DEAL WHICH IT IS NOT. THE CONTINUOS LIES ON TOP OF LIES CHANGED EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING, THAT IS EXCEPT THE MESSAGE BOARDS SHAMEFUL, MANIC OBSESSION WITH BRINGING DOWN THE FACTS AND AVOIDING THEM COMPLETELY.
SO MY CRITICS CAN CALL ME BASHER AND PSYCHOPATH AND FIRE SPIT BALLS AT ME AND FROTH AT THE MOUTH WHEN THE CONTINUE TO POST ANYTHING THEY WISH ON SOME MESSAGE BOARD. THATS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH THEY ALL ENJOY.
MY HISTORY IS A EDUCATED PROFESSIONAL TRAINED STOCK BROKER. I HOLD LICENSE FOR THIS AND I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED PRIMARILY WORKING WITH FUNDS AS YOUR 401K INVESTMENTS AND MARGIN FUNDS WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS MUTUAL FUNDS.. THAT IS RIGHT, THAT STUFF YOU PEOPLE PUT AWAY FOR RETIREMENT I WAS IN CHARGE OF. I MOVED 500-BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDS AT TIMES. NEEDLESS TO SAY, 99% OF YOU ON HERE ARENT A PIMPLE ON MY REAR END.
I THROUGHLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE APPROPRIATE C.E.O. WAS IN PLACE IN THIS COMPANY AND THE PRESS WAS RELEASED APPROPRIATELY WITHOUT LIES, MIS-LEADING STATEMENTS AND ABRUPT FLUFF, QBID WOULD BE TRADING .50-$1.00+ SIMPLY ON MOMENTUM WITH 15-BILLION OUTSTANDING SHARES.
SO, THEY CAN CALL ME NAMES AND RIDICULE MY ANGRY DEMEANOR ALL DAY LONG. BUT FACTS ARE FACTS. AND THE FACT IS, FRANK OLSEN HAS A EXTENSIVE RECORD OF PROPOSALS AND INFORMATION TO WEAKEN QBID IN A TIME THAT IS OPPORTUNE FOR THIS TYPE OF GAY-TV TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET. THE BOTTOM LINE IS MONEY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOUR RIDING FREE SHARES OR HAVE MONEY INVESTED AND I WOULD NEVER PUT ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY IN TRUST WITH A MAN WHO HAS SUCH A FLAMBOYANT DOCUMENTED PAST OF FAILURE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A ON-GOING FRAUDULENT COMPANY.
MY HISTORY IS A EDUCATED PROFESSIONAL TRAINED STOCK BROKER. I HOLD LICENSE FOR THIS AND I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED PRIMARILY WORKING WITH FUNDS AS YOUR 401K INVESTMENTS AND MARGIN FUNDS WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS MUTUAL FUNDS.. THAT IS RIGHT, THAT STUFF YOU PEOPLE PUT AWAY FOR RETIREMENT I WAS IN CHARGE OF. I MOVED 500-BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDS AT TIMES.
and how much money did you burn from your porfolio when qbit sinked from .028 to todate.
Where I have a problem is where you state something as fact without proof. Case in point, you state there was no signal before October 1st. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? You insisted that the most recent deal for programming included only 5 movies. HOW DID YOU DUDUCE THAT FROM THE PR? And while you may not care for Frank Olson as a CEO why do you insist on portraying him as a drunk? DO YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THIS IS THE CASE?
I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have more respect for you if you would address these questions that are raised about your information. Perhaps not the pumpers, but some of us who try to have a realistic view of the situation. I get the impression that in your anger with Frank and the company you are trying to enlist current shareholders to sell off, without comming out and saying it. But that's just my opinion. I don't know your real motive but this anger sure seems to be something you can't let go of.
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quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
U4, I have no problem with you expressing an opinion, and I happen to agree with you to some extent in that it is interesting that many of the PRs seem to contradict each other (especially regarding the financing).Where I have a problem is where you state something as fact without proof. Case in point, you state there was no signal before October 1st. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? You insisted that the most recent deal for programming included only 5 movies. HOW DID YOU DUDUCE THAT FROM THE PR? And while you may not care for Frank Olson as a CEO why do you insist on portraying him as a drunk? DO YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THIS IS THE CASE?
I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have more respect for you if you would address these questions that are raised about your information. Perhaps not the pumpers, but some of us who try to have a realistic view of the situation. I get the impression that in your anger with Frank and the company you are trying to enlist current shareholders to sell off, without comming out and saying it. But that's just my opinion. I don't know your real motive but this anger sure seems to be something you can't let go of.
Maybe if someone would prove him wrong he would put more effort to proving himself. If not there is no need for him to.
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
U4, I have no problem with you expressing an opinion, and I happen to agree with you to some extent in that it is interesting that many of the PRs seem to contradict each other (especially regarding the financing).Where I have a problem is where you state something as fact without proof. Case in point, you state there was no signal before October 1st. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? You insisted that the most recent deal for programming included only 5 movies. HOW DID YOU DUDUCE THAT FROM THE PR? And while you may not care for Frank Olson as a CEO why do you insist on portraying him as a drunk? DO YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THIS IS THE CASE?
I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have more respect for you if you would address these questions that are raised about your information. Perhaps not the pumpers, but some of us who try to have a realistic view of the situation. I get the impression that in your anger with Frank and the company you are trying to enlist current shareholders to sell off, without comming out and saying it. But that's just my opinion. I don't know your real motive but this anger sure seems to be something you can't let go of.
He says "I THROUGHLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE APPROPRIATE C.E.O. WAS IN PLACE IN THIS COMPANY AND THE PRESS WAS RELEASED APPROPRIATELY WITHOUT LIES, MIS-LEADING STATEMENTS AND ABRUPT FLUFF, QBID WOULD BE TRADING .50-$1.00+ SIMPLY ON MOMENTUM WITH 15-BILLION OUTSTANDING SHARES."
If I am reading between the lines correctly, he's saying that if the network was handled by a different CEO &/or handled differently; QBID would be at .50-1.00. In other words, he's saying its Franks fault for where the price is but the Network is still real.
So great chances that Q Television Network will succeed if mistakes are fixed and QBID will finally move to $1.
Potential is priceless! Thanks.
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Originally posted by retireyoung:
Maybe if someone would prove him wrong he would put more effort to proving himself. If not there is no need for him to.
The burden of proof is his. So are you saying that I can make any outragous claim I want and it should be taken as fact until someone can proove it wrong? I don't think so.
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Originally posted by GatorMan:
The burden of proof is his. So are you saying that I can make any outragous claim I want and it should be taken as fact until someone can proove it wrong? I don't think so.
Of course not but his claims are'nt outragous. Why should we believe everything Frank is saying. All emotions aside; think logically.
What I can not comprehend is the fact that he spoke highly of QBID in Feb/March/April.. If he is this professional investor, like he says; Did he not know the past of Frank O? Did he not know these "false claims, missed dates, misleading statement, PPS of the past, ect. ect."? Helllooo its happened before, why you choose now to bring it up and not early this year??
Was it just the fact that he knew QBID would surge after 1 year being at .0001? Was it the fact that he "thought" QBID would surge or be big this year?
I need to stop assuming or trying to figure it out but I still believe he's doing it for one reason. Oh well.
I'll ride to the top with you U4. Trust me. We'll be laughing together at the ones that sold.
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Originally posted by retireyoung:
Of course not but his claims are'nt outragous. Why should we believe everything Frank is saying. All emotions aside; think logically.
Why should we believe a PR from any pink sheet company? I'd say anyone who's dealt with the pinks any length of time has been burnt by pink sheet lies (GMDP got me big time just this year).
You believe the PR when it can be confirmed by a reputable source. RCN listing QTN on their channel line up, in my mind, confirms that we are, or will be carried by them.
I will agree 100% with U4 that we have been told lies by Frank. The PRs themselves give enough evidence to prove this. But I'll not agree that EVERYTHING we've been told is necessarily a lie, nor will I accept unsubstantiated "facts".
And perhaps "outrageous" was poor choice of words. I tried to find one of U4's old posts to give an example of what I thought was outrageous, but since I couldn't find one with a quick scan I can't give an example to justify the use of that word so I'll withdraw using it. So strike that word from my previous post. But my point still stands.
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Originally posted by famtrecrew:
It seems to me that many people have gotten out of qbid... Who still has faith???
I do.
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Originally posted by famtrecrew:
It seems to me that many people have gotten out of qbid... Who still has faith???
Hopefully this does not turn out to be another IBIZ !!
Q Unscrambles to Snag Gay Games
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 10/1/2004 2:26:00 PM
Pay service Q Television Network, the just-launched programming channel targeted to gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders, has secured rights to the 2006 Gay Games in Chicago.
The deal includes broadcast rights to live and taped coverage of the July 15-22 event, joint development of programming, and ad time. Rene Schenk, Q CFO, wouldn't say how much the channel paid for the worldwide rights, but called it a "sizable amount."
The sports include softball, dance, and tennis, as well as an arts festival, band, cheerleading and chorus.
Currently, Q is available in Palm Springs and San Francisco on RCN. Schenk says it should also be available via RCN in Boston, parts of New York, and Washington, D.C. within a matter of days. The channel also has a hunting license for Time Warner and is currently hunting.
As part of the deal, the signal will be unscrambled and made available worldwide
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1. Demonstrate a demand
2. Avoid the competition
3. Hire pros
4. Build a realistic model
5. Raise beaucoup bucks
6. Sweeten the deal
Call it cable's rite of spring. At the National Cable & Telecommunications Association's annual gathering, wannabe cable networks pitchhard. But few will turn up on your cable listings. (Q Television is on RCN's listing) Hype is the easy part, says one cable vet: "Until you get funded, you are not a network." New channels typically need $100 million to $150 million to break even.
There was a time when operators needed networks to populate their digital packages. Not any more. "We're looking to leverage the relationships we already have," says Cox Vice President of Programming Bob Wilson.
Industry consultant Cathy Rasenberger, who specializes in startup networks, has heard an estimated 200 proposals in the past few years. The odds of their success are slim, she cautions prospective clients.
About a dozen recently launched channels are making it. Among them: G4, Fine Living, Sํ TV, and sports diginets Fuel, CSTV, and Tennis Channel (see list at right). New networks associated with a big media company or distributor stand the best chance. Independents face an uphill climb.
National Cable Television Cooperative President and CEO Mike Pandzick says operators are focused on growing their businesses, not taking on more costs. "Most look at new networks and ask, How much it is going to cost me? How many new subs is it going to get me?"
Adds Pandzick, "That's why most new networks are almost dead in the water. There are so few interests that are not already being met."
But if you want to brave the odds, do it with Rasenberger's help. Here is B&C's tip sheet for starting a digital network.
1. Demonstrate a demand
Cable already offers a dizzying array of niche networks. There are channels for foodies, videogamers, and history buffs. Aspiring outlets must find something newand prove that people want it.
Launching a channel "is about the hardest thing to do in the world," says Brad Siegel, formerly a Turner Entertainment executive and now vice chairman for startup Gospel Music Channel. "If you don't have a large, passionate fan base, it's a nonstarter."
You need to identify the target and then find data to back up your plan. For the Gospel Music Channel, Siegel and network founder Charles Humbard, a Discovery Networks vet, see a wide-open space. (BET offers some gospel programming, but only a few shows a week.) More important, Gospel Music Channel says this is a proven marketplace: 80 million people a week tune in to such programming. And 8% of all U.S. music sales are for gospel music. Jazz, in contrast, makes up 4% of sales.
2. Avoid the competition
"It can disturb or destroy your business if someone else is competing for distribution and programming," says Rasenberger. Operators and advertisers might say they want alternatives to big, established cable networks, but it's tough going up against major players.
Stand Up Comedy Television, another first-time exhibitor at this week's NCTA show, will offer a lot of standup specials. Remember, Comedy Central has carved out the standup turf; even HBO and Bravo do it. In the gaming space, Game Show Network (now called GSN) and G4 are already up. Two new channels: Casino & Gaming Television is still looking for carriage deals, while Edge TV is joining the fray (see page 32). The channel is eyeing an early-2005 launch and has enlisted the expertise of former ABC Family distribution exec John Burns III, distribution specialist Hot House Media, and talent agency Creative Artists Agency.
Consider diversity. The National Football League's channel is everything NFL, while The Football Network will offer the rest (college, high school, women's football). But do operators want two football-themed channels? Do viewers want all football all the time? Clearly, only the strong survive. So far, The NFL Network has major deals on DirecTV, Charter, and Insight. TFN has secured deals with MSOs Time Warner and NCTC. The NFL Network kicked off last November, but TFN has been plagued by financial problems and may not run till year's end.
3. Hire pros
TV people are good. Cable people are better. There is nothing like the personal touch. It helps open the right doors at Comcast and Time Warner. Take CSTV, for example. Co-founder Brian Bedol is a familiar face in the cable industry. He started Classic Sports, then sold it to ESPN. He's calling on many of the same cable operators pitching his new channel.
Most new channels recruit an industry vet in their executive ranks or on their boards. The reason is simple: Cable can be a frustrating business. "You need to be prepared for a marathon," says TFN chief Jerry Solomon, a former sports agent. "I've negotiated a lot of deals, but I've never seen deals take as long to materialize as [carriage deals]."
4. Build a realistic model
Cable can be a great business, thanks to the dual revenue streams from subscriber fees and ad sales. But that model doesn't apply to many new diginets. With programming costs soaring for existing services, operators don't want expensive new services. They might be willing to shell out a few pennies per subscriber, but not immediately. Maybe not ever.
And don't count on advertising as a stable revenue stream. Sure, a few advertisers will take a leap early. "Some ideas are so interesting, you can take a flyer on it" and make a small buy, says Doug Seay, senior vice president for Publicis & Hal Riney. An early investment can pay off. Buyers usually get in for a dirt-cheap CPM and try to grandfather the rate. If a channel grows, the gamble is a good one.
Most advertisers want to see Nielsen ratings first. Says Seay, "A lot of people won't buy on concept." With hard data, they see who is watching and when.
It's also wise to consider other revenue streams. Rasenberger is keen on concepts with merchandising extensions. She's handling distribution for lifestyle startup Wine Network, which plans to sell wine and travel packages as a way to intoxicate coffers.
5. Raise beaucoup bucks
To begin, you'll need about $5 million in hand. The initial funds go for research, programming, and a road show to woo potential investors, as well as cable and DBS operators. But seed money goes only so far. The building blocks of a channelmore research, acquiring programs, commissioning originals, launch feesrun into a lot of money. The benchmark is at least $100 million. If you plan a lot of originals or live events, kick it up.
Trouble is, venture-capital money is hard to get. And startups face a tough predicament: Cable operators often want to know there is funding before they'll seal a deal. Investors want to see distribution before committing. It takes time to finesse both ends. Budget for at least three years to launch. It could take six to eight years to break even. Some networks die out because they can't sustain the investment. Jokevision, intended to show jokes 24/7 and commercial-free, has put the brakes on development. Backers are devising a sustainable business model.
6. Sweeten the deal
Understand what the operators want and need. Many distributors are pushing specialty tiers like Hispanic and sports packages. That has helped CSTV and the Tennis Channel get carriage. Startup Spanish-language kids network Sorpresa is finding a home on Hispanic tiers.
Other enticements may help sway an operator. Proposed young-adult network XY.tv says it will share ad revenue with early distributors. A few channels, including Wine Network, would share revenue from merchandise sales. Many are offering high-definition and video-on-demand content.
High-tech boondoggles may also work. Take the Anime Network. The channel's parent company A.D. Vision Inc. already owns a vast library of anime programs that it produces and sells on DVD. Starting a cable channel seemed a logical extension. Except that operators pushed back. To prove Anime Network's worth, the channel started as a video-on-demand service. Big MSOs like Comcast, Time Warner, and Cablevisionall eager to push VODwere hooked.
Going VOD first, says President Kevin Corcoran, "allows us to demonstrate there is a sufficient demand for a 24/7 channel." At least one operator agrees. Anime is expected to announce its first deal, with Insight Communications, this week at the National Show.
Rasenberger's best advice: "Find a model that is expense-neutral and revenue-positive for the operator."
Then you can tackle world peace.
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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...blah, blah, blah...
Thank you for your opinion.
. . . F L U S H ! ! . . .
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Originally posted by bill1352:
wouldn't it be nice to be able to go back in time and read bill gates's pr's when microsoft was .50, ya think maybe we would find a few that excitement not in the bank fact had something to do with. maybe even a few mistakes. dell, gateway, intel to name a few others. all companies in the last 20 yrs that started from scratch in a new area of an existing market. i'm not saying in any way that q will or could ever become what these companies are today, but q is a new area of an existing field and it started from scratch run basically by 1 guy. if a bunch of the prs in the last couple yrs have been over stated or ahead of reality can anyone really blame him. q probably is very undervalued if it was reporting it would probably be in the .10 range right now. the current pps probably has a lot to do with franks prs and past mistakes. they opened the door for big time mm manipulation. but just like the fore named companies things worked out in the end and as long as frank & co. keep doing as they have been all will work out here too.
Microsoft went public at $21.00 in 1986!
anyway just as frank stated in the interview on ceo cast this has been an 11 year effort there are a few things that he should be cautious of. The whole deal with dish network going awry because of mentioning it before it became official etc Frank even stated it on the hotline once that he was not going to make that same mistake again. For your question though can anyone really blame him ? Yeah shareholders. If he is making promises or statements that he can not deliver on the shareholders and the market will eat him alive.
Personally I liked the hotline when it started but when it started to make announcements the likes of Due to the fact that we are currently waiting for confirmation from the carriers that we have been added to their billing systems and confirmation of the carriers launch dates for the Q Television network it will be necessary for us to wait until next week to make a formal announcement and then not following it up with an official PR of course the shareholders have a right to point the finger. There was a PR a few days after this announcement on the hotline but that was the one where it stated there was no business or economic reason for the decline in share value.
No reason?!?! How about not following up with what they said they would do? I sent a few emails and called the offices a few times for them to put the hotline in PR form or even on the website in writing but in the end the hotline was shutdown. I am glad it is. Hindsight of course is always 20/20 and had they kept a tighter reign on what they said or stated they probably would not have had any issues with raising capitol from stock sales due to the decline in price per share.
They did announce RCN about a week and a half after the no economic reason PR but they just need to be careful about what they say and when. I know they just wanted to share the good news with investors alike but promising more than one can deliver can come back to bite them. I run/own a business I know things do not always happen on my own time table. Sometimes certain factors come into play that are completely beyond my control. Sometimes life just gets in the way. The only people I have to answer to is my employees and my customers. I would start to loose customers and even employees by not delivering what I promise. Frank is essentially in the same boat (granted a much bigger one with a lot more people to respond to). The one difference is that I do own up to it and will do an about face. I find that works better than to just keep going without acknowledging it and risk loosing customers (read shareholders for frank) that I depend upon.
Frank & Co. keep everything internal and only release information when needed. Yeah you will probably loose some shareholders but I doubt many of them are long anyway. The whole investor vs. trader argument. They will probably jump back in when things start to move again anyway. It is not as if by a certain date if you do not own shares you will no longer be able to get any. As long as they are traded people will be able to buy and sell. Remember this is still a pink. Treat it like one. Be in it dont be in it. Take everything for what it is speculation until you yourself see it for your own eyes. I would not start doing the vegas party arrangements just any time soon but hopefully in the near future (6-18 months) we can throw up some old posts on a presentation screen and laugh about them. You never know though right? I believe the CMKX/UCAD party is coming up soon though . LOL
Anyway time to get back to work. Its all good at Q <giggle>
Good luck to everyone (that means you too U4)
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Quote From U4 who I truly respected before he began his BASHING !
U4TSAF2
Member posted March 08, 2004 02:21
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GOOD NEWS :
CEO PUBLISHED A STATEMENT:
"WHILE I AM CEO OF THIS COMPANY, THERE WILL BE NO REVERSE SPLIT".
YES IT WAS THAT BOLD!
IF A PRO WERE TO TRULY EVALUATE THIS STOCK, HE WOULD LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND LOOK FOR CHANGES AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
FOR INSTANCE, THIS SAME STOCK (QBID) WAS IN THE SAME POSITION AS IT IS RIGHT NOW GOING BACK ABOUT 3 YEARS. ABOUT TO BROADCAST, THINGS LINED UP; ETC.
WENT UP TO ALMOST $1.00
I BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY THAT THIS STOCK JUST ON BASIC FUNDAMENTALS WILL SEE A RISE TO .25 AND A MID-LONG TO .50-1.00. DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS THEREAFTER WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE SHARE PRICE WILL MOVE UP TO. I PERSONALLY HAVE MY LIMIT ORDER ALREADY IN AT $2.00 AND DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO, MAY SELL ONLY PART AT $2.00 AND LOOK FOR THE $8+ AND UPWARDS RANGE.
THE SIGNAL WILL START MAY 1 AND THEN THE HUNT FOR ADVERTISERS. BRIDGESTONE/FIRESTONE HAS PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO ADVERTISE WHICH IS GOOD. I THINK THAT THE SAME THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE AS DID WITH MTV IN THE BEGINNING. "STARS" CAME ON COMMERCIALS FOR MTV AND TOLD PEOPLE TO CALL THEIR CABLE PROVIDER AND TELL THEM "I WANT MY MTV".
AMERICA IS A COUNTRY FULL OF DOUBLE STANDARDS AND THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY POSTIVELY RIPE FOR THIS STATION TO BEGIN. TIMING IS ABSOLUTE WITH THIS STATION. JUST LIKE WHEN WHITNEY HOUSTON/BOBBY BROWN WERE POPULAR WITH MUSIC IN THE 80'S AND ALL THOSE OTHER BANDS BACK THEN. THEY WERE RIGHT FOR THAT TIME BUT NOW THEY CAN'T SELL BUBBLEGUM.
WHEN YOU TAKE EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT ABOUT THIS STOCK, IT REALLY IS A NO-BRAINER.
KEEP BUSH IN OFFICE, CHRISTIAN TELEVISION TO BASH TRAINGLE TELEVISION NETWORK, MEDIA COVERAGE, THREATS TO BOMB BECAUSE OF TTN AND YOU EASILY HAVE A $10/STOCK.
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THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR ABC NEWS AFFILIATE STATION. REMEMBER, THIS IS ABC AND WHAT ONE KNOWS, THEY ALL KNOW. http://www.hoinews.com/news/features/2/626822.html
Homosexual TV
A new cable channel is hitting the airwaves. The Triangle Television Network will make its debut in the next three months. TTN will specialize in programming for gays and lesbians. It's available to about 10,000 cable TV companies for $2 a month. Time Warner Cable Television has agreed to make the signal available to any of its local subscribers. Programming will include taped gay athletic contests and fashion shows.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS ARTICLE IS THAT IT COMFIRMS (INDEPENDTLY) THAT DEAL WITH TIME-WARNER
MARCH 3, 2006
L2 QBID
4.00X1
3.99X3
3.98X8
RESISTANCE IS $4.00 AND IF WE CAN BREAK-THRU THAT, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
READ LAST LINE!
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Search+Results&t ext=q+televisionQ Unscrambles to Snag Gay Games
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 10/1/2004 2:26:00 PMPay service Q Television Network, the just-launched programming channel targeted to gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders, has secured rights to the 2006 Gay Games in Chicago.
The deal includes broadcast rights to live and taped coverage of the July 15-22 event, joint development of programming, and ad time. Rene Schenk, Q CFO, wouldn't say how much the channel paid for the worldwide rights, but called it a "sizable amount."
The sports include softball, dance, and tennis, as well as an arts festival, band, cheerleading and chorus.
Currently, Q is available in Palm Springs and San Francisco on RCN. Schenk says it should also be available via RCN in Boston, parts of New York, and Washington, D.C. within a matter of days. The channel also has a hunting license for Time Warner and is currently hunting.
[b]As part of the deal, the signal will be unscrambled and made available worldwide
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The unscrambled signal is for the duration of the games right? Like the free preview weekends for HBO or other channels above the basic cable mark?
That would be really good if they did that. Especially of course to entice those folks who want to watch but have not subscribed yet .... till they see the scroll at the bottom saying call now to add it to their lineup.
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L2 QBID
4.00X1
3.99X3
3.98X8
RESISTANCE IS $4.00 AND IF WE CAN BREAK-THRU THAT, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!
U4, U4, U4 when you accuse someone of lying and refer to them as a drunk that should attend AA meetings, What do you expect from people? I know you understand how people feel when you post in all caps.
You pose good arguments at times but when someone challenges a statement, you don't respond.
For example - I am going to ask you "Do you own QBID? if not why are you posting this information?" Lets see if you reply.
If you do not, and you are the almighty stockbroker that you say you are, then QBID is no more than a pimple on your butt (your words). Just leave us alone to form our own opinions as everything plays out.
Or is it that you still are holding those 2,000,000 shares that you purchsed at 2 cents (LOL) and your angry for getting burned for about 30 grand. But there is no way an almighty stockbroker such as yourself would be so foolish as to get mixed up in a stock such as QBID.
Either way, leave us alone and go play with your 500 million dollars.
I don't believe I just wasted 4 minutes of my life responding to this maroon.
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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
THE BOTTOM LINE IS MONEY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOUR RIDING FREE SHARES OR HAVE MONEY INVESTED AND I WOULD NEVER PUT ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY IN TRUST WITH A MAN WHO HAS SUCH A FLAMBOYANT DOCUMENTED PAST OF FAILURE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A ON-GOING FRAUDULENT COMPANY.
so i take it that you have sold off your $40000 worth that you bought at .02?
if not then you are in violation of the above statement. then this could be true. didnt you get fired from this big 401k job? ( oh never mind that wasnt very nice of me)
I highly doubt that you sold off at that great of a loss.
You have been attacked because of the way you come in here and make your statements.
this last message was the first message i have seen from you that shows that you put a little tought into the message and explained yourself in any great detail.
If you have sold off all your stock though then it really makes no sence for you to spend so much time in here. And if you have not sold then it makes no sence for you to bash the stock.
So what i cant figure out is why either way you would spend such an investment in time on this board. Unless you are being compensated by say Frank himself to try and keep the price down for the buy back.
One thing i have learned is that most people dont do things for free. What are you makeing at this?
Either way, the fact that you are in here talking this down as much as you are shows me that there is potential here and that you have something to gain by this stock.
there for i intend to hold on to my shares because of the shear potential. I fully realise that i can loose all of my money, but i havent invested anymore then i am prepaired to loose. so i cant go wrong on this stock. Thank you for your your genuine concern.
Rod
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
so i take it that you have sold off your $40000 worth that you bought at .02?if not they you are in violation of the above statement.
I highly doubt that you sold off at that great of a loss.
You have been attacked because of the way you come in here and make your statements.
this last message was the first message i have seen from you that shows that you put a little tought into the message and explained yourself in any great deal.
If you have sold off all your stock though then it really makes no sence for you to spend so much time in here. And if you have not sold then it makes no sence for you to bash the stock.
So what i cant figure out is why either way you would smend such an effort on this board. Unless you are being compensated by say Frank himself to try and keep the price down for the buy back.
Either way, the fact that you are in here talking this down as much as you are shows me that there is potential here and that you have something to gain by this stock.
there for i intend to hold on to my shares because of the shear potential. I fully realise that i can loose all of my money, but i havent invested anymore then i am prepaired to loose. so i cant go wrong on this stock. Thank you for your your genuine concern.
Rod
Hey buddy wasup?!
Regardless of what U4 is spewing (earlier good and now bad) if he is on the payroll from frank and deliberately keeping the price down currently for a buy back or whatever it would be deemed as manipulation of price and the enforecement division from the SEC would come down on them and any other parties that were involved. Needless to say that would cripple the stock. Hopefully they are not that dumb to try it. But people never cease to amaze me though!
Off topic - Rodney Dangerfield died today at the age of 82. 
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It is imposible to catch every offender every time. Guaranteed that there are bashers and pumpers for most every company that are compensated in one form or another. they can make it look like a legal transaction as payment for stuffing envelopes, of comision for work done. They are not going to put it in the books Bob made x amount for his bashing efforts on Allstocks board.
and the nice thing is that now with the new rules in the forum, I dont have to bring forward proof of anything as the burden is on everyone to prove me wrong. =)
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Originally posted by sharkus:
Hey buddy wasup?!Regardless of what U4 is spewing (earlier good and now bad) if he is on the payroll from frank and deliberately keeping the price down currently for a buy back or whatever it would be deemed as manipulation of price and the enforecement division from the SEC would come down on them and any other parties that were involved. Needless to say that would cripple the stock. Hopefully they are not that dumb to try it. But people never cease to amaze me though!
Off topic - Rodney Dangerfield died today at the age of 82.
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Thanks 1BigTip for posting the Chicago information. It seems that RCN may be the holdup again.
.....more buying time.
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
I agree with you but hey anything is possible. to think that the SEC could catch them if it is happening is absolutely absurd. Yes they catch the odd offender, but there is only so may of them caught. It is like the cops trying to catch all speeding violations. We have all drove over the speed limit and how often have you been caught versus the amount you have gotten away with it?It is imposible to catch every offender every time. Guaranteed that there are bashers and pumpers for most every company that are compensated in one form or another. they can make it look like a legal transaction as payment for stuffing envelopes, of comision for work done. They are not going to put it in the books Bob made x amount for his bashing efforts on Allstocks board.
and the nice thing is that now with the new rules in the forum, I dont have to bring forward proof of anything as the burden is on everyone to prove me wrong. =)
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LOL - hahah true everyone has to prove you wrong now LOL
Not saying that the SEC would catch them just hoping that the mere threat of that would make some people think twice I know I am probably wrong on that one though .I know that not all offenders will be caught but with the number of shells and other scams that have been cleaned up over the past few months I believe they (the enforcement division) are on a roll. Plus I am pretty sure they have been keeping an eye on the volume players the likes of cmkx who can eclipse the total volume of the nasdaq and the NYSE in a matter of hours! Plus I am pretty sure that out of all the people here either those who post regularly or even those who wait in the wings at least a few probably have already contacted the SEC in regards to market makers, false posts such as fake PRs etc R a g I n g B u l l at least has been in many PRs from the SEC so at least they are aware of some of the stuff out there.
As for the speeding though - If someone is with me I tend to get caught alone though I bet I could give the cmkxtreme machine a run for its money
LOL
Where is the penguin army? Can't we send them down to florida - I am sure the penguing army and the 'dragon' can track U4
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ttys
Rod
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Originally posted by sharkus:
Where is the penguin army? Can't we send them down to florida - I am sure the penguing army and the 'dragon' can track U4
Posted by: shue15
Date:10/5/2004 10:33:01 PM
Post #of 28354
At this point I don't think that the technicals of the chart mean a freaking thing, but it is interesting how we are tracking right along the resistance line and that today we made the full swing from support to resistance. A squeez is starting to happen on the chart and the range of trading for each day is getting narrower.
sdrobert
Member posted October 05, 2004 22:05
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9 red flags to message board scammers
posted by someone else not me
Someone who hyper-posts on only one stock.
Someone who uses multiple identities.
Some who repeatedly attacks or belittles others on a stock's message boards.
Someone who emerges as the stock's moderator, or even the leader of the discussion group on that stock.
Someone, with a short history in their member profile, who suddenly shows up during a stock run-up, and appears to know "all about" the company.
Someone who is nearly always the first to respond to company developments.
Someone who continuously hints at upcoming news and unannounced contracts.
Someone who hypes the company during the run-up and then "changes" his/her mind and begins attacking the company, its insiders and the project.
Someone who goes out of their way to find bad news about the company and makes a "case" out of it.
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By: dmusephoto
05 Oct 2004, 03:09 PM EDT
Msg. 43157
OK, most of you know, but here i go anyway.
Almost all the executives are in New York. Information regarding are questions (are we broadcasting) should be posted on the website. I do not know when. I do not know what happened or when it will change. I was told though that they will try to update us soon, so that we are not in the dark.
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
SENSE, MAKING, REALIZE.. please, it adds legtimimatcy to your posts. Not wanting to slam, just take a few moments to spellcheck at least....
sorry?... who/what post is this regarding?
Many folks do not spell correctly on here. I am sure I am one of them. The ones that get me are when some type huge as hugh.
Either way though - this is a message board - an unofficial msg board at that - its not designed to be all prim and proper. Bad spelling , improper use of a direct object or missplacement of subject object verb is quite common but it kinda (!)....makes it seem more real.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht
I was rdgnieg
THE PAOMNNEHAL PWEOR OF THE HMUAN MNID
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it
deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod
are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and
lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a
taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Amazing huh?
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78.23% of all statistics are made up on the spot...The other 35% are made up later on.
[This message has been edited by sharkus (edited October 05, 2004).]
I realize that I am not the best speller in the world but I get my point across. That is what matters to me. I wasn't aware that perfect spelling was needed for legitimacy (note it is spelled correctly in my post as opposed to your mistake) I will try harder in the future to not make mistakes.
you could try your own advise ;-)
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
SENSE, MAKING, REALIZE.. please, it adds legtimimatcy to your posts. Not wanting to slam, just take a few moments to spellcheck at least....
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no hard feelings here. I just seen the irony of your post and couldnt help myself lol
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
Rod, you're correct, but I made 1. Hey, I'm definitely not a typist, nor a perfectionist. As I said, wasn't intended to slam_ only to help.
Terry
Best wishes to all longs.
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Finally!
I was able to clear up some funds and add more shares today and I am pleased to announce that I am finally a member of the QBID 1 million share club. I'll add even more if I'm able, but I've acheived my main goal and it feels good.Best wishes to all longs.
Microsoft went public at $21.00 in 1986!
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i stand corrected it did open at $21 but then dropped to .70 it was 1 of the 5 stocks mentioned in an article in the wall street journal that a $2000 investment would make you a millionaire today. this article was from about 5 or 6 yrs ago.
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have a great evening I'm off to bed
Go baby Q
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
OH NO, two faux paus in one evening....is it Rod or Ron... possibly my SECOND mistake this evening...I'm failing miserably! Really, loved your insight to the humor of my mistake. Have a great evening. We all want the same results, QBID get off your A$$ and fly!!!!
Terry
i hope this only gets posted once lol
Bob if you are seeing this please delete my double posts.
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
ugh. Just got a headache! It's ashame he's taking advantage of the silence! We're all getting fed up (including myself) but people can't be that stupid to listen to him.
So I will leave you with this thought coming from U4 himself:He says "I THROUGHLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE APPROPRIATE C.E.O. WAS IN PLACE IN THIS COMPANY AND THE PRESS WAS RELEASED APPROPRIATELY WITHOUT LIES, MIS-LEADING STATEMENTS AND ABRUPT FLUFF, QBID WOULD BE TRADING .50-$1.00+ SIMPLY ON MOMENTUM WITH 15-BILLION OUTSTANDING SHARES."
If I am reading between the lines correctly, he's saying that if the network was handled by a different CEO &/or handled differently; QBID would be at .50-1.00. In other words, he's saying its Franks fault for where the price is but the Network is still real.
So great chances that Q Television Network will succeed if mistakes are fixed and QBID will finally move to $1.
Potential is priceless! Thanks.
BigT!
What's really funny is from where I sit it looks like Frank couldn't screw this thing up if he wanted.
When the signal is nationwide & veiwers are talking about it everywhere we will already be on our way to a buck if not there already.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
From "the most" credible source.By: dmusephoto
05 Oct 2004, 03:09 PM EDT
Msg. 43157OK, most of you know, but here i go anyway.
Almost all the executives are in New York. Information regarding are questions (are we broadcasting) should be posted on the website. I do not know when. I do not know what happened or when it will change. I was told though that they will try to update us soon, so that we are not in the dark.
Looks like you've found a good board!
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whizknock
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Just in case you missed it. Look at all the news coverage we had over the weekend alone!!
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. http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13908&sd=10/02/04-10/04/04
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. http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=655e3c63eb086fcd
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. http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Breaking+News
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. http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/10/100104gamesTV.htm
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. http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA457774.html?display=Breaking+News
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. http://www.suntimes.com/output/lazare/cst-fin-lew01b.html
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. http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13881&sd=10/01/04
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. http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/2409529
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. http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
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. http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Breaking+News&referra l=SUPP
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Good reading!
I've seen all these people on Comedy Central. Stephanie Howard had her own special, which was really funny. This is not "amateur hour", folks. Looks like we're gonna get ourselves a real network here. Cool.
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Feel like I've seen this before, but just got the alert tonight, plus the article date says it's fresh. Maybe it contains new details:
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13908&sd=10/06/04I've seen all these people on Comedy Central. Stephanie Howard had her own special, which was really funny. This is not "amateur hour", folks. Looks like we're gonna get ourselves a real network here. Cool.
Yep! A Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network at that!
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ALL SHOULD READ ==>>
Posted by: georgeking23
In reply to: None Date:10/5/2004 7:50:19 PM
Post #of 28363
*NEW NAKED SHORT RULE GOES INTO EFFECT IN DAYS* THAT IS THE MAIN REASON THE PPS IS DOWN. MY GUESS IS OVER A BILLION SHARES ARE BEING COVERED BY MAINLY TO MM'S NITE AND GVRC. NOTICE HOW THEY KEEP THE ASK DOWN ON RALLIES. ON FRIDAY, THE AT AROUND 11 OCLOCK THERE WERE 193 BUYS VS. 38 SELL AND THE PPS WAS DOWN A POINT. THIS PROVES THAT THE PPS IS BEING MANIPULATED. GVRC & NITE ARE BUYING ON THE ASK FROM OTHER MM'S. NOTICE SOME OF THE SMALL GUYS THEY ARE BUYING FROM EFGI, HDSM, ETC..
---IS THIS TRUE---
these are some of DMUSEPHOTO posts that I just came across ENJOY:
Just came across this post by Demusephoto. He is a reliable source of info imo.
By: dmusephoto
30 Sep 2004, 02:17 PM EDT
Msg. 41051 of 41096
Jump to msg. #
"100,000 customers by December. We will offer 30 days free viewing in all broadcast areas. We hope to be in 55% of the country by mid-January."
Sounds like they finished a del with TW, Comcast is looking good and we got 1 of the satellite companies.(Direct TV)
dmusephoto
30 Sep 2004, 02:27 PM EDT
Msg. 41068 of 41097
Jump to msg. #
This is only a guess but i think Q has bought back between 50-60 million shares.
By: dmusephoto
30 Sep 2004, 02:31 PM EDT
Msg. 41073 of 41101
(This msg. is a reply to 41069 by vegasdave85044.)
Jump to msg. #
Vegas,
RCN will be up and running in a big way. I heard that TW would come soon, but i have no date. I guessing sometime in the next two weeks. Meetings with comcast have been going well to.
By: dmusephoto
30 Sep 2004, 02:36 PM EDT
Msg. 41077 of 41102
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Just spoke with the office, Q should be launching nation wide on RCN tommorrow. Should see a pr in regards to this.
ITS GOOD TO BE IN QBID.
The Earth_Man
A. Frank wants to buy back shares and make good on his statement. Cheap PPS allows him to do this. Perhaps the PPS is Manipulated for this purpose until buyback is complete.
OR
B. MarketMaker Manipulation PERHAPS to COVER there SHORTS.
The Earth_Man
MBAH--NOT DONE YET
GAMX--VOLUME UP--WATCH FOR BOUNCE
HOPE YA ALL GOT IN ON ITCY LOW OF .0026
QBID WILL BE SOON!!
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
So my guess is that the PPS is staying LOW because:A. Frank wants to buy back shares and make good on his statement. Cheap PPS allows him to do this. Perhaps the PPS is Manipulated for this purpose until buyback is complete.
CEO's job is to increase shareholder value. If the CEO of a company purposely manipulated their share value to keep it low, he needs to be fired, shot, tortured, and hung on a stick for all to see. To think that a CEO would want to keep their company's value down is completely absurd...
-R
i wonder how Q is gonna perform on this event.
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
CEO's job is to increase shareholder value. If the CEO of a company purposely manipulated their share value to keep it low, he needs to be fired, shot, tortured, and hung on a stick for all to see. To think that a CEO would want to keep their company's value down is completely absurd...-R
You forgot castrated.
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quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
CEO's job is to increase shareholder value. If the CEO of a company purposely manipulated their share value to keep it low, he needs to be fired, shot, tortured, and hung on a stick for all to see. To think that a CEO would want to keep their company's value down is completely absurd...-R
Actually, the CEO's job is to run an efficient and profitable company. If this is done then pps takes care of itself.
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quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
You forgot castrated.
You forgot being locked in the same room for 10 minute's with U4 & U0
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
You forgot being locked in the same room for 10 minute's with U4 & U0
Now that would just be inhumane.
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PALL is moving! No risk at .0002. Up 100% today. But listen to this:
The Company's revenue is approaching $700,000 vs. revenue of $1,532 for the same period last year. The Company has moved the real estate division to the recently purchased offices in Carlsbad, Ca.
A reporting company trading at that price? QBID not reporting yet..Imagine when they do... These are bargain prices!
Plus that company moved...uh oh, watch out they're no good.
PALL trading over 50 million, RSI is at 28.
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
New this morning. The SFGate site is pretty big out here.
http://www.sportbusiness.com/news/index?region=global&news_item_id=155831
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/06/BAG9794CO21.DTL
GREAT FIND!!
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DIANA
"CARAVAN COVERAGE
The Chronicle is covering the Marriage Equality Caravan as it crosses the country. To see all the stories, go to www.sfgate.com . The caravan riders are also posting Web logs and photographs of their adventures at the Web site www. marriageequalityca.org.
E-mail Rona Marech at rmarech@sfchronicle.com ."
The Chronicle is THE San Francisco newspaper, so that's good exposure. Must be Rubenstein at work.
WHICH BRINGS ME BACK TO THIS: NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT QBID!!
Stage 1 - Accumulation. Stock is quiet, trading sideways and without a lot of volatility. Most everyone ignores the stock because it has no sizzle. Insiders hold large blocks of stock and quietly gear up for the distribution.
Stage 2 - Breakout. Volume jumps up, psychological barriers are broken. Insiders begin to tell their friends of upcoming significant fundamental change. Pros take notice and buy the stock on the coat tails of the well informed. The public ignores it because they have not read about the company in the paper yet. It must be a scam.
Stage 3 - Uptrend. As a larger audience learns of the company and its promise, more buying comes in to the stock and it begins to climb. Pros begin to sell, but slowly. Average investor begins to buy.
Stage 4 - Pullback. The stock has gone up too fast, and some profit taking arrives. The jumpy investor who got the entry timing right but lacks confidence in his or her decision sells the stock with a small profit, and smiles in the mirror. The Pro holds on, Average Investor looks through the newspaper to find justification for ownership of the shares.
Stage 5 - Resumption of the Uptrend. The pull back is short lived, and the stock bounces and continues higher. The wannabe regrets the sell, but provides self counsel on the merit of making a profit, albeit a small one. The Pro might sell a little bit more, but still holds the majority of the original position. The Average Investor is getting excited now, and thinks about what could have been if only he had bought when he first noticed the stock.
Stage 6 - Exhaustion of the Uptrend. The media takes notice, and communicates the company's merits to the masses. The masses buy the stock, and it goes up sharply with strong volume. The Pros sell with enthusiasm. The Average Investor owns it now, and is telling everyone who will listen. The wannabe Pro jumps back on, after all, he was smart enough to buy it when the trend started, so he knows the stock well. Will hope make it go higher?
Stage 7 - Gravity Works. Pro selling begins to weigh on the uptrend, and the stock fails to go higher despite high volumes. The stock starts to go down instead of up, and the Pro is almost sold out. The Average Investor continues to cheer lead, hoping to rally support. The wannabe ignores what the market is telling him, taking a loss is too painful to consider. The company is featured on the cover of a magazine.
Stage 8 - The Second Guess. The stock bounces and starts to go back up. The wannabe Pro averages down while the Average Investor gets back to advising friends of his stock picking acumen. Pros sell their remaining holdings and begin to look for another deal to play, or perhaps start short selling the stock.
Stage 9 - Out of Gas. The bounce is a fake out, and the stock moves lower again. The public own this stock, and they have no more power to buy. The Pro are making money on the short sales now, but are despised by the masses. Calls for short selling to be made illegal are made by the Average Investor, after all, the short sellers are the demons causing the sell off.
Stage 10 - Dead Cat Bounce. The Average Investor and the wannabe Pro have no pain tolerance left, and finally sell for a big loss. The short selling Pros are the only buyers to take the share off their hands, and provide the needed liquidity. The stock bounces, and some short term traders make a quick profit. The Average Investor either swears to never buy a stock again, or tells lively stories over drinks about the one that could have been.
Stage 11 - Post Mortem. Pros have forgot about the stock and are considering carpet samples for their new home in Florida. Average Investor continues to follow the company and buys loads of cheap stock to try and overcome the regrettable loss.
The stock market is mean. You can be a good analyst, but if you can't overcome the psychological traps of trading, you will do what the crowd does. To be successful, you have be one step ahead of the crowd, and trade with unemotional discipline. There are strategies to take advantage of each stage of the market cycle that can be applied just by looking at a stock chart. They just require a bit of knowledge.
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DIANA
Happy trading.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Good morning! Been roaming the Allstock Board this morning...looking around...stopping to smell the roses...Happy trading.
I HAVE MISSED YOU!! LOVE YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE!!
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DIANA
(must be that hormone thing.LOL)Come on QBID!!
Think about this - Forget the fact that its the hardest thing to do to start a network. I don't think Frank put much effort into finding out how to be a reporting company. Of course they need an accountant, ect. ect. So if they got subs now, they would need to keep track of all the revenue they're generating. Personally I don't think they are ready to do that. Who's keeping track? Frank??
Sure, they can figure that all out in 3 months but I think to be legal, don't you have to at least do your homework on being a reporting company?
Thats all my opinion why they don't want to air all over the place yet.
Time! Let it be another 3 months! I would have said this at .0001! Because when its stable around .03 I'll be laughing.
Could it be that these bashers bash a stock and then they manipulate the stock to drop dramtically during the day to sort of scare the day traders into selling because they see the stock falling??
It makes sense because look at the time frame when they do the bashing. They're quiet while its dropping because they said what they had to say and basically have the "I told you so" approach. Meanwhile they are the ones dropping the PPS.
Anyway have the buys vs sells??
HAVE 5700.00 NOW LEFT TO PLAY WITH BEFORE X-MAS.
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
PICKED UP A MIL AT .0037 FOR MY BABIES..HAVE 5700.00 NOW LEFT TO PLAY WITH BEFORE X-MAS.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Good call D! Just posted to buy it at .0036 make a quick percentage gain and get out at .0040. (10%)
TRIED TO PICK UP AT .0036 YESTERDAY AND TODAY. NO GO!!
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DIANA
IVAN AT 1.76 AND BCON AT .26 IS LOOKING GOOD NOW!! YEE HAAA
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DIANA
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quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
PRESS RELEASE COMING. 85% chance it will be tommorrow.
Should mention about launching in other cities.
DID YOU GET MY CRYSTAL BALL OUT OF THE PAWN SHOP?? SOURCE???
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
DID YOU GET MY CRYSTAL BALL OUT OF THE PAWN SHOP?? SOURCE???
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DIANA
I HAVE AN ORDER IN FOR .0036. DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING!!
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DIANA
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Sounds like they finished a del with TW, Comcast is looking good and we got 1 of the satellite companies.(Direct TV)
Hmmmmmmmmm
My Etrade Account is Getting insanely LOW.
I have faith in QBID but the PPS is testing my sanity.
Last year on December 31st END OF THE YEAR SIRI spiked to more then $4.00 a share UP from $2.00 a share earlier that year. This spike was due to Sub numbers that the company had gained from the holiday gift season. This year NOT ONLY is the Spike GOING TO COME AGAIN ! due to sub numbers over the holidays BUT ALSO they will be announcing THE MILESTONE SUCRIPTION level of 1 MILLION !! Subscribers by end of year.
THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING and a good way to make at least 50% on an investment if you buy and hold SIRI for the end of the year. But I would wait for a dip before jumping in JUST YET. With the HOWARD STERN SIGNING the PPS is overly EXCITED right now. Wait for a dip then ENTER.
quote:
Originally posted by qnique:
A little Q Birdie told me.
I hope it's not the same bird that did a do do on my windshield and Scottrade account.
We are signing more carriers. Talks are be finalized.
And to calm us down a bit A PR will be coming out Tomorrow about national LAUNCH.
JMO
Firefly, you posted something that is stuck in my head, "Think global."
Satelite's are global--our audience will be global...
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15 June 04: Traveling to New York, Q Television has hired Advertising Executive Scott Seger to head new Madison Avenue office. Seger will be hiring an advertising sales staff to assist him. The Q Television advertising campaign will begin June 21st.
WHERE IS THE ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN THAT BEGAIN ON JUNE 21, 2004? COME ON FRANK, SURELY YOU FOUND TIME BETWEEN AA MEETINGS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON ADVERTISING. WELL MAYBE NOT SINCE YOUR OFFICE HAD TO HANDLE 50,000 INQUIRIES WHICH I IMAGINE TOOK ALOT OF YOUR TIME.
IT'S OK, WE ALL UNDERSTAND. THERE IS NO BUSINESS OR ECONOMIC REASON FOR THE STOCK TO CLOSE AT .0038 TODAY.
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Anyone see this article. Just a small part below click link to read it all.
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbiansontv/a/QTV.htmLesbian and Gay TV Network
I had the opportunity to talk with Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Q Television Network, a new TV channel for gays and lesbians. Q Television will show programming for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans community. This television network was created to develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week beginning in late 2004.
Here's what Frank Olsen, president of Q Television had to say.KB: Where did the idea of Q Television first come from?
I got the idea for Q Television from watching Trinity broadcasting.
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How can people check out the programming on Q Television?
By mid-October we should be in 7 major markets across the USA and we expect 100,000 customers by December. We will offer 30 days free viewing in all broadcast areas. We hope to be in 55% of the country by mid-January. Remember that Q Television is a baby right now, just as MTV was 20 years ago, and we have to grow. We will be inclusive and make programming for the entire gay community as we grow. The $7.95 subscription fee is for two reasons: 1) to generate revenue for the cable/satellite companies and 2) because we want to be in people's homes at their invitation ONLY. We will be there because they WANT us to be there.
Hmmmm,
Mid-October 7 major markets
In six weeks--December
December 100,000 customers
30 days free access, then....
$3.95 x 100,000=$395,000 a month
Hopefully, by Mid-January will be in 55% of this country's markets.
Growing time.....
$3.95 x 150,000=$592,500 a month
$3.95 x 200,000=$790,000 a month
$3.95 x 250,000=$987,500 a month
$3.95 x 500,000=$1,975,000 a month
$3.95 x 750,000=$2,962,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,000,000=$3,950,000 a month
$3.95 x 1,250,000=$4,937,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,500,000=$5,925,000 a month
$3.95 x 2,000,000=$7,900,000 a month-------------even paired, this is still just a fraction of the g/l community
Based on the number of potential viewers within the targeted audience, these numbers seem below a realistic estimate of the subscribers that are just waiting for QTN to become available in their areas.
I can wait.
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What is in this for you U4?
you are not doing this for free.
you are not doing this for our own good.
you are doing this for your own personal gain.
if you don't have any shares (which i doubt) why waist your time here.
If you do have your shares (which i believe to be the case) why would you want to lower the pps by putting doubt in peoples minds (not my mind)
Again as long as you are posting here I am reassured that you see the value and potential here. As long as you are bashing I am going to feel very comfortable in this stock. You traded it wrong and you are bitter, and you shouldn't be. you yourself where one of the biggest cheer leaders here and now you have crossed the road. You where wrong about buying at .02 and you are wrong now. thanks for the confidence that you are building here amongst the ones that can see through your camouflage.
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
PER FRANK OLSEN:15 June 04: Traveling to New York, Q Television has hired Advertising Executive Scott Seger to head new Madison Avenue office. Seger will be hiring an advertising sales staff to assist him. The Q Television advertising campaign will begin June 21st.
WHERE IS THE ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN THAT BEGAIN ON JUNE 21, 2004? COME ON FRANK, SURELY YOU FOUND TIME BETWEEN AA MEETINGS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON ADVERTISING. WELL MAYBE NOT SINCE YOUR OFFICE HAD TO HANDLE 50,000 INQUIRIES WHICH I IMAGINE TOOK ALOT OF YOUR TIME.
IT'S OK, WE ALL UNDERSTAND. THERE IS NO BUSINESS OR ECONOMIC REASON FOR THE STOCK TO CLOSE AT .0038 TODAY.
Buckle up.
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
[QUOTE]
$3.95 x 150,000=$592,500 a month
$3.95 x 200,000=$790,000 a month
$3.95 x 250,000=$987,500 a month
$3.95 x 500,000=$1,975,000 a month
$3.95 x 750,000=$2,962,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,000,000=$3,950,000 a month
$3.95 x 1,250,000=$4,937,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,500,000=$5,925,000 a month
$3.95 x 2,000,000=$7,900,000 a month
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...blah, blah, blah...
Thank you for your opinion.
. . . F L U S H ! ! . . .
That imbecile will never answer you because he has no 'good' answers to your questions -- or anyone else's for that matter.
For the record, I'm not just a cheerleader that wants to hear positives only. I like to hear everyone's questions and concerns so that I can make an informed decision. However, since this idiot will not answer questions and posts speculation as fact, I have actually stopped reading his posts and just "FLUSH" every time I see his posts.
If he had legitimate concerns, he'd have legitimate answers to questions that have been posed to him. Since he refuses to respond, I can only conclude that he has ulterior motives.
I only hope he shows up at the Vegas party so I can actually "FLUSH" his head down a toilet!
In six weeks--December
December 100,000 customers
30 days free access, then....
$3.95 x 100,000=$395,000 a month
Hopefully, by Mid-January will be in 55% of this country's markets.
Growing time.....
$3.95 x 150,000=$592,500 a month
$3.95 x 200,000=$790,000 a month
$3.95 x 250,000=$987,500 a month
$3.95 x 500,000=$1,975,000 a month
$3.95 x 750,000=$2,962,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,000,000=$3,950,000 a month
$3.95 x 1,250,000=$4,937,500 a month
$3.95 x 1,500,000=$5,925,000 a month
$3.95 x 2,000,000=$7,900,000 a month-------------even paired, this is still just a fraction of the g/l community
Based on the number of potential viewers within the targeted audience, these numbers seem below a realistic estimate of the subscribers that are just waiting for QTN to become available in their areas.
I can wait.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Inst that $7.95 per sub? how did you get that $3.95?
quote:
Inst that $7.95 per sub? how did you get that $3.95? [/B]
QTN is splitting the subscription rate with the carriers.
i really dont expect an answer from him as you say he can not back up his mishmash of crap.
now 1BigTip
what is up you seem to be holding back tonight. what is it that you know for sure.
Commmmom spill it lol
or at least e-mail me with it
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Penny,That imbecile will never answer you because he has no 'good' answers to your questions -- or anyone else's for that matter.
For the record, I'm not just a cheerleader that wants to hear positives only. I like to hear everyone's questions and concerns so that I can make an informed decision. However, since this idiot will not answer questions and posts speculation as fact, I have actually stopped reading his posts and just "FLUSH" every time I see his posts.
If he had legitimate concerns, he'd have legitimate answers to questions that have been posed to him. Since he refuses to respond, I can only conclude that he has ulterior motives.
I only hope he shows up at the Vegas party so I can actually "FLUSH" his head down a toilet!
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 06, 2004).]
10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program
SO INSTEAD OF DOING ANY BUYBACK, 5-MONTHS LATER FRANK OLSEN ISSUES ANOTHER 6-BILLION SHARES AND THEN ANOTHER 50-BILLION TO GRAND TOTAL QBID AT:
71-BILLION SHARES
AND THEN 1 MONTH AFTER ISSUING ANOTHER 56 BILLION SHARES TELLS US HE'S DOING A BUY-BACK OF 2%.
AS IF THIS WASN'T ENOUGH, HE ALSO ADDS THAT THE STOCK IS BEING UPGRADED FROM PINKS AND THIS SHOULD TAKE 6-MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
LET'S SEE HERE:
1. FRANK ANNOUNCES A BUYBACK THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
2. FRANK ISSUES ANOTHER 56-BILLION SHARES AFTER TELLING US HE HAS SECURED THE FUNDS FOR 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST FOLLOWED BY A FEW WEEKS LATER THAT HE HAS A LOAN TO SECURE 1-YEAR OF BROADCAST.
3. FRANK AFTER ALL THIS, TELLS US A 2% BUYBACK WILL BE DONE. (HEY, CAN I BORROW $10 SO I CAN PAY YOU BACK THE $10 I OWE YOU)
4. FRANK TELLS US THAT WE'RE MOVING OFF THE PINKS IN 6-MONTHS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ALL THIS FINANCING IN PLACE AND HAVE 50,000 INQUIRIES AND 100,000 HOTLINE HITS AND ARE GOING TO BE PROFITABLE IN 1-YEAR THEN WHY DO YOU ISSUE ANOTHER 56-BILLION SHARES ESPECIALLY....
ESPECIALLY NOW...
WHEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO UPGRADE THE STOCK WITH 56-BILLION MORE SHARES FLOATING AROUND.
NOW FRANK HAS ASSURED THAT "NO ROLL-BACK OR REVERSE SPLIT WILL TAKE PLACE" SO THEN HOW IS THE STOCK GOING TO GET OFF PINKS. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. OH I KNOW, HE CAN DO ANOTHER BUY-BACK.
IMPOSSIBLE. THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR QBID TO UPGRADE OFF OF PINKS WITH 71-BILLION SHARES.
IT'S OK FRANK, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO BUSINESS OR ECONOMIC REASON FOR QBID TO CLOSE TODAY AT .0038.
HEY BARTENDER, GET MY BUDDY FRANK HERE A DOUBLE <HICCUP>.
[This message has been edited by U4TSAF2 (edited October 06, 2004).]
dam thing wont go down
keep your private life to yourself U4. u know you're allowed to remain anonymous in those meetings...
~BB
iknow i spelled it wrong it was on purpose.
[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 06, 2004).]
I have read your most recent post and believe you have made some valid points that cannot be denied. I do not knock your credentials and have respect for what you claim to have done in the past . What I would like to address is why you would keep posting so much of the negative side of what has happened, so much more could be gained if we could just work together and boost the moral here. I know its only natural to retaliate when your being attacked but who is it really benefiting? Im asking you to reflect on what you have posted here and see which posts really benefited yourself, the posters here, and also the lurkers who see whats hot and whats not? Anybody here would probably agree that before May you were the one voice above the rest, imo a leader to many that jumped on board the U4TSAF Train to QBIDville. Its time for change Mr. U4TSAF, there is more work to be done!!
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
PER FRANK OLSEN:10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program
SO INSTEAD OF DOING ANY BUYBACK, 5-MONTHS LATER FRANK OLSEN ISSUES ANOTHER 6-BILLION SHARES AND THEN ANOTHER 50-BILLION TO GRAND TOTAL QBID AT:
71-BILLION SHARES
AND THEN 1 MONTH AFTER ISSUING ANOTHER 56 BILLION SHARES TELLS US HE'S DOING A BUY-BACK OF 2%.
AS IF THIS WASN'T ENOUGH, HE ALSO ADDS THAT THE STOCK IS BEING UPGRADED FROM PINKS AND THIS SHOULD TAKE 6-MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
LET'S SEE HERE:
1. FRANK ANNOUNCES A BUYBACK THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
2. FRANK ISSUES ANOTHER 56-BILLION SHARES AFTER TELLING US HE HAS SECURED THE FUNDS FOR 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST FOLLOWED BY A FEW WEEKS LATER THAT HE HAS A LOAN TO SECURE 1-YEAR OF BROADCAST.
3. FRANK AFTER ALL THIS, TELLS US A 2% BUYBACK WILL BE DONE. (HEY, CAN I BORROW $10 SO I CAN PAY YOU BACK THE $10 I OWE YOU)
4. FRANK TELLS US THAT WE'RE MOVING OFF THE PINKS IN 6-MONTHS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ALL THIS FINANCING IN PLACE AND HAVE 50,000 INQUIRIES AND 100,000 HOTLINE HITS AND ARE GOING TO BE PROFITABLE IN 1-YEAR THEN WHY DO YOU ISSUE ANOTHER 56-BILLION SHARES ESPECIALLY....
ESPECIALLY NOW...
WHEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO UPGRADE THE STOCK WITH 56-BILLION MORE SHARES FLOATING AROUND.
NOW FRANK HAS ASSURED THAT "NO ROLL-BACK OR REVERSE SPLIT WILL TAKE PLACE" SO THEN HOW IS THE STOCK GOING TO GET OFF PINKS. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. OH I KNOW, HE CAN DO ANOTHER BUY-BACK.
IMPOSSIBLE. THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR QBID TO UPGRADE OFF OF PINKS WITH 71-BILLION SHARES.
IT'S OK FRANK, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO BUSINESS OR ECONOMIC REASON FOR QBID TO CLOSE TODAY AT .0038.
HEY BARTENDER, GET MY BUDDY FRANK HERE A DOUBLE <HICCUP>.
[This message has been edited by U4TSAF2 (edited October 06, 2004).]
Just ponding about one thing. Seems like when I say something specific, U4 comes out bashing. I was deep into thought about it and realized that what I know is more true then I thought. Ironically U4 showed up on another board after I mentioned something there also. It was since May 15 he last posted there. Hmmm.
Honestly, that board is tough and no one there read his post. Mostly because it was in Caps. No one even responded. Unlike here, he gets responses and thats why he keeps coming back. Guess what, his post got deleted on the other board. His member name used to be U4TSAF2MAI. (I am 2 fast 4 u) Well read this U4 - UOYNEHTRETSAFMAI
QBID is a sound, secure investment. Everyone always buys when they see it has risen 100+%. We're in quiet stages now, you should be thrilled.
Like I said in May & June & I'll say it again; I don't care if it takes 3 years to get to $1.
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 06, 2004).]
Someone who uses multiple identities.
Some who repeatedly attacks or belittles others on a stock's message boards.
Someone who emerges as the stock's moderator, or even the leader of the discussion group on that stock.
Someone, with a short history in their member profile, who suddenly shows up during a stock run-up, and appears to know "all about" the company.
Someone who is nearly always the first to respond to company developments.
Someone who continuously hints at upcoming news and unannounced contracts.
Someone who hypes the company during the run-up and then "changes" his/her mind and begins attacking the company, its insiders and the project.
Someone who goes out of their way to find bad news about the company and makes a "case" out of it.
[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 06, 2004).]
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Jo-Kool
quote:
Originally posted by Jo-Kool:
Agreed bigTip, Im in it for the long haul.
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
me tooo
Perhaps adults could learn from how seventh graders respond to a pest.
They know how to ignore.
They just stroll on by; we can just scroll on down.
The squeaky wheel--gets the attention--if we choose to give it attention.
Very strong,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/06/BAG9794CO21.DTL
Let's get some news today. Come on Frank...we want NEWS about carriers and new city launches.
16 September 04: Q TELEVISION NETWORK PURCHASES STUDIO; Currently, we rent studios in Las Vegas, Fort Worth, New Orleans and now Palm Springs, California," said Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Q Television Network.
IT'S FUNNY HOW FRANK OLSEN NOW TELLS US THAT HE RENTS STUDIO'S IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES. THIS IS A COMBINATION OF FLAT OUT LIES AND MIS-LEADING INFORMATION.
FIRST, THEY HAVE NO STUDIO IN PALM SPRINGS. THEY HAVE A OFFICE AND FRANK USES THAT TO TWIST TO MAKE IT APPEAR THEY HAVE "STUDIO" SPACE IN PALM SPRINGS.
SECOND, FRANK OLSEN MOVES ON TO SAY THEY HAVE STUDIO SPACE IN FORTH WORTH WHICH IS ANOTHER TWIST TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE STUIDO SPACE IN TEXAS WHEN FIRESTONE IS LOCATED IN TEXAS AND THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY PRODUCING PROGRAMMING FOR QBID.
THIRDLY, FRANK OLSEN SAYS THEY HAVE STUDIO SPACE IN NEW ORLEANS WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE WHERE BARBARA LAMONT WITH NETWORK TELEPORTS IS. FRANK TWISTS THIS ALSO TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THERE IS STUDIO SPACE IN NEW ORLEANS AND THIS IS ANOTHER LIE CAUSE THERE IS NOT.
NOW AS OF SEPTEMBER 16, 2004 WE ARE NOW TOLD ABOUT ALL THESE VAST STUIDO LOCATIONS GIVING US THE IMPRESSION "Q IS REALLY ON THE MOVE". WHERE WAS ALL THIS GREAT INFORMATION BEFORE OR MAYBE:
-------->"IT WAS JUST OFF THE CUFF TO MAKE Q-TV LOOK LARGER AND BETTER THAN IT REALLY IS" <---------U4 QUOTE
CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT FRANK NEVER BOASTS OR MAKES THINGS LOOK FAR GREATER AND/OR FLAT OUT LIES THAN WHAT THEY TRULY ARE. I MEAN HE WAS SO ACCURATE IN TELLING US HE HAD 50,000 INQUIRIES AND 100,000 HOTLINE MESSAGES AFTER A 12+ HOUR TEST SIGNAL THAT NO-ONE EVER HEARD ABOUT EXCEPT MESSAGE BOARD PATRONS. OH WAIT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT 24-HR HARD LAUNCH ON JUNE 1 TO GET THE ADVERTISTERS A LOOKIE AT WHAT GREAT THINGS Q HAS TO OFFER.
"IF" THIS WAS THE CASE AND ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS A FLAT OUT LIE TO HAVE STUDIO'S ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THEN WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH ALL THIS SPACE WHEN FRANK OLSEN HAS NO ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING TO FILM, NO CREW, NO CAST, NO NOTTA BUT HE'S RENTING ALL THIS STUDIO SPACE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WE EVEN HAVE A OFFICE IN NY CITY THAT HAS NO FILING WITH THE CITY AS A INCORPORATED BUSINESS, NO TELEPHONE INFORMATION OR NO VERIFABLE LOCATION.
I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ABOUT ALL THIS: I WAS AT DISNEY WORLD AND I SEEN A Q-TV STUDIO'S. MICHAEL EISNER HAS AGREED TO PRODUCE ALL OF Q-TV PROGRAMMING FOR FREE SINCE DISNEY GETS THE TAX WRITE OFF AND ACCORDING TO MICHAEL EISNER, ELLEN NEEDS A NEW JOB. THANK YOU MICKEY MOUSE.
QUESTION:
IF RCN HAS 400,000 SUBS. TIME WARNER HAS 1+ MILLION. THAT TOTALS 1.4 MILLION SUBS.
SINCE 3% OF THE POPULATION IS GAY I KNOW IT'S FAIR TO SAY 1% OF THE 3% WILL ORDER Q-TV. BUT I'LL GIVE IT THE BENEFIT AND SAY ALL 3% ORDER IT.
SO WITH THAT IS:
1.8 MILLION SUBS TIMES 3% = 54,000 Q-VIEWERS. WOW AND TO THINK THAT WITH A 12+ HOUR TEST BROADCAST NO-ONE EVER HEAR ABOUT, FRANK GOT 150,000 INQUIRIES. 150,000 INQUIRIES ABOUT PROGRAMMING AFTER A 12-HOUR NO-ONE HAS EVER HEARD ABOUT STATION BUT YET THERE ARE ONLY 250,000+ HITS ON A WEBSITE IN 8+ MONTHS FROM MESSAGE BOARD PATRONS.
HEY BARTENDER, DON'T YOU CUT OFF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD WAY WAY WAY TOO MUCH TO DRINK?
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
you write too much--i cant read that much
UAADD - U4 adult attention deficit disorder
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The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
...I do not know how Allstocks.com continues to allow you to make remarks regarding AA and alcoholic issues. ...
very good question!
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...HEY BARTENDER, DON'T YOU CUT OFF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD WAY WAY WAY TOO MUCH TO DRINK?
Hey Allstocks! Don't you cut people off who senselessly bash and defame?! .... or at least FLUSH their IPs?
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Hey Allstocks! Don't you cut people off who senselessly bash and defame?! .... or at least [b]FLUSH their IPs?[/B]
The sad thing is U4 does bring up one or two valid points, then buries them in a sea of lies and slander. With his repeated posts that say basically the same thing and his refusal to even address questions it seems he is a believer in the big lie theory; state a lie often enough and people begin to believe it no matter how big the lie is.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
The sad thing is U4 does bring up one or two valid points, then buries them in a sea of lies and slander. With his repeated posts that say basically the same thing and his refusal to even address questions it seems he is a believer in the big lie theory; state a lie often enough and people begin to believe it no matter how big the lie is.
I agree, I think once paroled after serving a sentence handed down by the Honorable Judge Bob, U4 will be a useful and productive member of the Allstocks community.
Like I said many months ago, QBID ain't going up ... see you at .0001
24 September 04: Q Television Network Is Confident About Future Growth and Innovations Opportunities, Plans Buy Back of 2% of Its Outstanding Shares of Common and/or Preferred Stock in the Next 6 Weeks. Q Television Network today announced that its board of directors approved the first round of buy-backs for QBID common stock
NO. 1: THERE IS NO BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHICH IS A COMPLETE LIE
NO. 2: FRANK OLSEN ANNOUNCED A BUY BACK IN FEB 04
PER FRANK OLSEN:
10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program;
ONLY TO HAVE HIM 5-MONTHS LATER RE-ISSUE 6-BILLION NEW SHARES AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, ANOTHER 50-BILLION WHICH GIVES QBID A GRAND TOTAL OF......
DRUM ROLL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
71-BILLION SHARES.
HEY, LET ME BORROW $10 FROM YOU SO I CAN GIVE YOU BACK THE $10 I OWE YA. <BURP>
[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 07, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
PER FRANK OLSEN:24 September 04: Q Television Network Is Confident About Future Growth and Innovations Opportunities, Plans Buy Back of 2% of Its Outstanding Shares of Common and/or Preferred Stock in the Next 6 Weeks. Q Television Network today announced that its board of directors approved the first round of buy-backs for QBID common stock
NO. 1: THERE IS NO BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHICH IS A COMPLETE LIENO. 2: FRANK OLSEN ANNOUNCED A BUY BACK IN FEB 04
PER FRANK OLSEN:
10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program;
ONLY TO HAVE HIM 5-MONTHS LATER RE-ISSUE 6-BILLION NEW SHARES AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, ANOTHER 50-BILLION WHICH GIVES QBID A GRAND TOTAL OF......
DRUM ROLL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
71-BILLION SHARES.
HEY, LET ME BORROW $10 FROM YOU SO I CAN GIVE YOU BACK THE $10 I OWE YA. <BURP>
OK U4 Here's your chance, where's the proof to your statements?
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~,-,-< GatorMan
quote:
Originally posted by Nostradamus:
Amazing how many buffoons are still pumping up this stock ... and, whenever someone shrewdly points out flaws in QTV, the same buffoons personally attack them.Like I said many months ago, QBID ain't going up ... see you at .0001
But why is he unwilling to back up what he says with hard evidence? He points to PRs for some things but on others he just states that such-and-such happened and doesn't say where the information came from. As far as I know the flaws are imaginary.
I WANT people to point out both the good and bad in any investment, but I also want a reputable place to go to verify.
Is that to much to ask?
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~,-,-< GatorMan
[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 07, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
there is no way to verify the o/s from differant ppl that have posted things that turned out true the o/s is about 9.5 billion with much of that restricted. there might have been another 5 billion restricted for 5 yrs issued a few months ago. also 50% of the 9.5 billion is owned by frank. there is no way to prove or disprove it but the float could be around 4 billion
OK, bill, to be fair I'll ask you the same thing. How do you arrive at your numbers? What makes you think that a few months ago 5 billion restricted shares may have been issued. It does make sense that Frank would own 50% of the O/S to keep control.
pinksheets.com shows an outstanding of 1,264,988,916 as of 2002-05-30, obviously very dated, but where does the 9.5 billion O/S come from?
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~,-,-< GatorMan
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Really the only written statement on O/S was in Feb of this year when Frank said the O/S was 7.5 billion. The 9.5 billion number was a supposed number Frank gave someone that called Q a few months back. I would guess that is true. 2 billion dilution during a building phase of a network, I would think is needed to raise the funds to build with. Now he did say in Feb. he would do a stock buy back and no R/S at that time. I am sure he meant that as soon as the company starts making money not immediately. That is were people like U4 get there fuel. They use statements that were made and stretch them to suit themselves. Also he is using rumors from the rumor mill to reinforce his stretched truth. The 50 billion was never proved and neither was the 5 billion restricted. It was a RB rumor started months ago and no one was able to prove it.Ric
Thanks, Ric. At least there's one person out there that can give good, honest information.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
Stop feeding the fire. New people realize there is only a few of them and hundreds of us! Our goal is to see the PPS higher, their goal is to make it drop. Which do you prefer?
In a separate announcement TTN has established an internal deadline to uplink a 24/7 transmission of sample programming by May 1, 2004 for preview and redistribution by cable headends and DDS companies. We are negotiating with several satellite companies to meet this deadline. As part of the TTN launch marketing strategy, our preview feed will also be redistributed to theaters and hotel conference rooms for companies supported functions to allow potential subscriber availability.
Triangle Multimedia is currently in negotiation for a business combination with a television programming company, which has many years of experience and a seasoned television management and creative staff.
Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc. uncertified share info is 15B shares authorized with 7 1/2 B shares outstanding. The company estimates 6000 existing shareholders.
Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. believes its shareholders are part of the company and those shareholders wishing to contact the company are asked to call Monday through Thursday 7-8 AM PST and 2-3 PM PST at 760-323-4199
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; Triangle Multi-Media's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 7, 2004--Q Television Network (Pink Sheets: QBID - News), announced today that it is hosting a live 60-minute conference call for its shareholders on Thursday, October 28th at 4:00 P.M. EST.
Frank Olsen, president and CEO, and Rene Schenk, CFO, will outline goals for the network and discuss the significance of the television rights for the 2006 Gay Games.
"I want to thank the investors who own shares of QBID," said Olsen. "After working feverishly the last few months on improving programming, updating the website and conducting carriage deals, we are excited to talk to our investors about the company's exciting progress."
Q Television invites all interested parties to participate in the conference call. Participants will be able to access the call by dialing into a conference bridge. For those who cannot participate on the live call, Q Television will have the call available for replay on the conference line the following day.
Instructions for hearing the conference call:
Call 866.800.8649 in the United States or Canada or
Call 617.614.2703 internationally
Pin Code: 69337128
Instructions for hearing the conference call replayed:
Dates available October 28th -- November 4
Call 1-888-286-8010 in the United States or Canada or
Call 1-617-801-6888
Pin Code: 92820530
About Q Television Network:
A wholly-owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media, Q Television Network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
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This is unlike troy at Q. I spoke with rene earlier and he told me about the PR.
Now troy at Q is telling people.
I don't like the guy anyway. he's an asss. 1-877-875-6300. Give him hell boys
By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 01:39 PM EDT
Msg. 44717
call and ask if investors will be updated re RCN launch.
Business Editors/Entertainment Editors
PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 7, 2004--Q Television
Network (Pink Sheets: QBID), announced today that it is hosting a live
60-minute conference call for its shareholders on Thursday, October
28th at 4:00 P.M. EST.
Frank Olsen, president and CEO, and Rene Schenk, CFO, will outline
goals for the network and discuss the significance of the television
rights for the 2006 Gay Games.
"I want to thank the investors who own shares of QBID," said
Olsen. "After working feverishly the last few months on improving
programming, updating the website and conducting carriage deals, we
are excited to talk to our investors about the company's exciting
progress."
Q Television invites all interested parties to participate in the
conference call. Participants will be able to access the call by
dialing into a conference bridge. For those who cannot participate on
the live call, Q Television will have the call available for replay on
the conference line the following day.
Instructions for hearing the conference call:
Call 866.800.8649 in the United States or Canada or
Call 617.614.2703 internationally
Pin Code: 69337128
Instructions for hearing the conference call replayed:
Dates available October 28th -- November 4
Call 1-888-286-8010 in the United States or Canada or
Call 1-617-801-6888
Pin Code: 92820530
About Q Television Network:
A wholly-owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media, Q Television
Network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to
providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community.
While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised
of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes
that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience,
designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other
segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be
available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming.
The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week.
Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the
network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto
Rico.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in
this press release may be forward-looking statements within the
meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such
matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results
to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic
conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's
ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the
risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and
Exchange Commission filings.
--30--NM/ny*
CONTACT: CWR & Partners, LLP
Ronnie Welch, 508/222-4802
Ronnie@cwrpartners.com
KEYWORD: CALIFORNIA
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: TELEVISION/RADIO CABLE CONSUMER/HOUSEHOLD
CONFERENCE CALLS
SOURCE: Q Television Network
Copyright Business Wire 2004
Oct-07-2004 17:52 GMT
Symbols:
US;QBID
Source BW Business Wire
Categories:
MST/I/BRD MST/I/CBL MST/I/HOU MST/L/EN MST/R/US/CA MST/S/MET TGT/BWN
Surely he can tell investors SOMETHING interesting...at least to keep people invested. We're in the 003's already.
I don't understand the attention that is devoted to U know who.
I have lots of questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He pumped (big profit for him) now he dumps, correct?
What part of that is not obvious?
What is in it for him?
Why does he spend all of this time posting here?
Why does anyone buy/sell stocks?
Of course he sprinkles in a few facts--that's the bait, isn't it?
He has a game plan and he is sticking to it. If it works, why should he fix it?
Why enable him to manipulate our investment?
Who is controlling whom?
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Perhaps you see my reasoning as way off the mark. If so, please respond and explain it for me.
This news shows that he is concerned for us and wants to at least talk.
I'm relying on the professional investors to come up with smart questions to ask.
I don't think this means nothing will happen next 3 weeks. But it's sad if thats what is implied. Fed up? Leave.
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 07, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Guys, I really need some help here. I am getting confused.I don't understand the attention that is devoted to U know who.
I have lots of questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He pumped (big profit for him) now he dumps, correct?What part of that is not obvious?
What is in it for him?
Why does he spend all of this time posting here?
Why does anyone buy/sell stocks?
Of course he sprinkles in a few facts--that's the bait, isn't it?
He has a game plan and he is sticking to it. If it works, why should he fix it?
Why enable him to manipulate our investment?
Who is controlling whom?
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Perhaps you see my reasoning as way off the mark. If so, please respond and explain it for me.
You actually think that U4 is making this stock go down by talking **** on allstock. If you believe all this whole basher pumper thing; majority the posters here would be pumpers. These pumpers have no evidence, so they are essentialy lieing just like you say U4 is.
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Sorry to say this, but this sounds like an attempt to push investors off for almost a month.Surely he can tell investors SOMETHING interesting...at least to keep people invested. We're in the 003's already.
Sunny, I think he did tell investors something--something big will be announced in three weeks.
quote:
Originally posted by retireyoung:
You actually think that U4 is making this stock go down by talking **** on allstock. If you believe all this whole basher pumper thing; majority the posters here would be pumpers. These pumpers have no evidence, so they are essentialy lieing just like you say U4 is.
Did I say that he was making this stock go down?
No, I just said that he gets what he wants as the reason that he posts here.
My original question was why give him the attention that he wants.
Based on his "RogerDoger" history, I questioned why anyone would repond to his post.
What I "actually think" is that your response is very revealing.
As fo the pumper/dumpers thing, I have personally read links (that were removed by the board administator) from groups with views that oppose this stock.
I'm as certain of their existence as I am of "lying" being misspelled as"lieing".
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quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
.0038! Up 8% from the day low.
^%&^% why did you have to speak so soon... LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Did I say that he was making this stock go down?
No, I said that he was getting what he wants is the reason that he posts here.Based on his "RogerDoger" history, I questioned why anyone who repond to his post.
What I "actually think" is that your response is very revealing.
As fo the pumper/dumpers thing,
I'm as certain of their existence as I am of "lying" being misspelled as"lieing".
You missed the missing "l" in essentially.
quote:
Originally posted by famtrecrew:
^%&^% why did you have to speak so soon... LOL
U4TSAF2
Member posted April 13, 2004 12:08 
IF THE STOCK DUMPS BACK DOWN TO .0001 I'LL BE HAPPY TO PICK UP ALL THOSE SHAES YOU DUMPED BECUASE YOU GOT SCARED!
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Guys, I really need some help here. I am getting confused.I don't understand the attention that is devoted to U know who.
I have lots of questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He pumped (big profit for him) now he dumps, correct?What part of that is not obvious?
What is in it for him?
Why does he spend all of this time posting here?
Why does anyone buy/sell stocks?
Of course he sprinkles in a few facts--that's the bait, isn't it?
He has a game plan and he is sticking to it. If it works, why should he fix it?
Why enable him to manipulate our investment?
Who is controlling whom?
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Perhaps you see my reasoning as way off the mark. If so, please respond and explain it for me.
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quote:
Originally posted by retireyoung:
You missed the missing "l" in essentially.
No, I saw it.
However, that particular typo was not revealing.
quote:
Originally posted by Jo-Kool:
Dont be confused his he trades one foot for the other in his mouth.
U4TSAF2
Member posted April 13, 2004 12:08 IF THE STOCK DUMPS BACK DOWN TO .0001 I'LL BE HAPPY TO PICK UP ALL THOSE SHAES YOU DUMPED BECUASE YOU GOT SCARED!
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Jo-Kool
Give good news in person (internet)!
Conference call--bragging time.
P.S. Mr./Mrs. Allstocks lots of words are being mispelled on here. Many laughs!
hoping good stuff is on the way.
You will have to register...
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Jo-Kool
quote:
Originally posted by famtrecrew:
Anyone been here and heard the interview w/ Frank O. on Oct. 1st...
here ya go. Direct link to audio is at bottom.
Frank's Interview Corrected Word for Word -- The other one had a few errors.
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Good day this is Michael Wachs with CEOcast. Im here today with Frank Olson. Frank is president and Chief Executive officer of Q Television Network, a company that trades over the counter under the pink sheet symbol QBID. One that was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming to the gay & lesbian community. Thanks for joining CEOcast today Frank.
FO: Thank you for having me.
MW: I thought perhaps you can begin with the overview of the company and then well get into the programming and why this is so well suited for its audience.
FO: Well first thing the company has been tailor made for the gay community. Weve been working on this for 11 years. This is not an overnight project, its an 11 year project. We have 70% of our money is private money that was invested in the company and the rest of the money is from stock sales. The company is a pink sheet which we plan on taking forward reporting. Were in the process of doing that, weve made some mistakes and bought a shell which wasnt as clean as we hoped it would be but now we got it straightened out over the last 5 years and now I think well going to be reporting probably within 6 months to a year. 6 months. Its going to take at least 6 months to finish that.
MW: As you look at the audience now, why is your content so well suited for it?
FO: Well because see, our content, I should give you a little bit of my experience. Ive owned television stations for 30 years and I had 17 gay bars. So I know the gay community, I had the first black radio network and Ive been specializing with minority broadcasting all my life. Native American broadcasting, all kinds of minority niched market broadcast. So by owning gay bars Ive learned about the gay community. How diversified they were and what you had to do to make a television station for them. And that was not making a bunch of sitcoms and making the gay person the odd ball. Gay people do not buy gay toothpaste, you have to understand that. They buy fords, they buy crest, and they live and theyre only gay in their bedroom and the rest of the time theyre normal regular people that live a gay lifestyle and they have gay families. Most gay people just because they are out of the age of 30 have a partner, an invested partner and they have long relationships, probably because theyre not under the pressure of being married. (laughs)
MW: Frank what about the content itself, what kind of content do you provide?
FO: Ok, first thing we have a 3 hour block in the evening thats repeated 3 times. It starts out with a gay interactive talk show that anybody from any place in the world can call us up and we can put you on television through your web cam and weve done some special technology that they used in Iraq and we boost up the signal so its not perfect for the person that is calling in but they are on television and you can see them very well and its a call in talk show and it will talk about gay issues and one day it will be fun, theres 3 hosts of lesbian comedians, stand up comedians, And 2: 1 person has the longest running gay radio talk show which has been going on for 19 years, David Crest. Then we have Chris Fox which is another radio DJ but hes been in several movies and some sitcoms and he will be the other host.
The 3 host that will address 3 plasma screen and will be a two hour talk show. One screen for the mid-America , one screen for the west coast, and one screen for the east coast. Youll be able to call from any place on your webcam. Or youll be able to go to Kinkos which has a national teleconference system that the picture comes in very clear which will be able to bring in guests from all over the world and they go to Kinkos and theyll be able to call and be able to get gay issues out on the table immediately. Gay people are very issue oriented.
The next show that comes on the 3 hour block is the gay events show that tells what happening out in the world of gay and it basically shows movies and film clips and its kind of a fun out and about show. Then we go to a gay sports show, I have the only gay transgender sports caster in the country. Used to be on ABC, I dont know what name she used on ABC but now she has a man so now she is Jack E Jett and she does the sports behind the sports. And then we go to gay movies, gay plays, and then in the morning we do the lesbian show this is copy after the view called woman on woman its a strip show 5 days a week.
On weekends we do a tech show that shows where all the gay website are and then we buy some programming.
We just signed a contract with the gay Olympics in 2006, a multi million dollar contract. We have all the broadcast rights, all the network rights, and the line feed rights. So well be able to send it all the over the world, if anybody wants it they have to get it from us. That we just signed yesterday.
Well be doing gay rodeos, were going to be following the gay community all over the country and thats whats different from every other station; were going to bring the gay community together. Person in Atlanta will finally get to see the Halloween parade in west Hollywood live on our station.
MW: Frank, what about advertiser and your advertising and your revenue base.
FO: Revenue base comes from 2 places. We charge $7.95 which we split with the cable companies and that is for 2 reasons. 1, we want to give the cable company some inducement to take us but also we want to be invited in the home. We want to be scrambled; we dont want to force our agenda on anybody. This is very important because Ive been married, I was married for 29 years and I have grandchildren and I do not want my grandchildren to ask me why two men are kissing on television; an 8 & 9 year olds. Come and ask me that. When theyre 12 Ill sit there and tell them all about the facts of life. But Im not going to have them; you know kids act out what they see on television. Now Im a gay person, openly gay now, but they dont need to know that right now; kids get to much force on them they dont need to have that force on them, so were going to be scrambled.
The next revenue base comes from advertisers, we limit our advertiser down to, you ever picked up a gay magazine, we call them "Gay Rags", and if youll notice in gay rags theres several fortune 500 companies that advertise in those but they really dont like to advertise in those because they want to get to the gay community but they dont like who advertising with because the next page is escort services and gay bars and strip joints and things like that. So we are not above these. Our ratings are TV14 and we dont go any higher. So we give them a nice, safe place to advertise where the straight person doesnt know theyre advertising and so they will not lose to, remember we have to deal with 13%. 13 - 10% Gay, 3% curious. Then we have the 33% religious community so advertisers have to be very careful they dont want to lose more then theyre gaining.
The gay families have a 600 billion dollar a year disposal income. Advertisers want a big chunk of that especially people like American Express, Carnival tours, travel agencies, and beverage companies, and computer companies. They love to get into that money but they dont want to offend anybody, so thats why were scrambled and so we run a limited run of advertisers. We do not break movies, we do not break gay plays, we do not break some events, but we do break sports events, the talk show, we break talking head show and things like that. So we average about 8 minutes an hour instead of 18 minutes an hour.
MW: What should investors now look for in the coming quarters in terms of key developments from the company.
FO: Well were building 3 studios well be all over the country and it will cut our expenses down. Weve moved all our production facilities in Fort Worth, Texas because of the talent Fort Worth has and the pricing is so much cheaper, so well be able to live within our budget and start growing to be a money making company. We should be showing profit within 12-13 months. And we should be off the penny stocks, I would say in a year we will be on an exchange, I dont which one yet were having advisories and lawyers and everyone getting into that. But were a growing stable company; we have plenty of financing, plenty of money available to carry us 3 years if we dont make a dime. But I think well be making money within a year. Right now were building up programming, were building up studios, and we are spending money. Thats where were at.
MW: Well Ive been speaking today with Frank Olson, Frank is President and Chief Executive officer of Triangle Multimedia Limited a company that trades over the counter under the symbol QBID and one that is owner of the Q Television Network. Frank thanks for joining CEOcast today.
FO: Thank You for having me.
MW: This has been Michael Wachs for CEOcast, where Wall Street listens.
http://www.ceocast.com/company_media.cfm?media=2&file=16448
quote:
Originally posted by famtrecrew:
Anyone been here and heard the interview w/ Frank O. on Oct. 1st... http://www.ceocast.com/company.cfm?cid=16448You will have to register...
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO HAS NOT HEARD THIS, PLEASE LISTEN... VERY INTERESTING
ocean, It puts them near their 6 week window for BB. I know a carrier deal is done but i do not know who and when. So i think we will get that news in the next 3 weeks.
By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 03:12 PM EDT
Msg. 44920
ok, not the pr i thought it would be, but.....PR RE RCN will happen in the next few days...no later than mid week....I know...another next week....i know...
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
P.S. Mr./Mrs. Allstocks lots of words are being mispelled on here. Many laughs![/b]
Sunny gets the credit for being first to post someone's consistent misspelling of lying.
LOL, however, it does start to stand out when almost everyone of his post begins with more "lies".
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quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
But why is he unwilling to back up what he says with hard evidence?
The same reason the cheerleaders never do either. Pure speculation and wishful thinking. Unfortunately this is a result of QTN's non-reporting status. We can guess all day long a the number of shares but never know. Even the numbers released in various PRs could be completely made up since there's no way for anyone to verify.
-R
Ok, I will need everyones help here because I will not have time to do this. Frank and Rene have asked me to ask shareholders(myself as well) why we see things different and fill as if we are in the dark. They asked me to pull up all the PRs in the last year and find out what issues we have with the company. For example, The April PR, announcing buyback with an O/S 7.5, then the dramatic increase. The website, etc. If people can start from the jan 1st, untill now with issues, things can be addressed.
RE conference call. Frank and Rene will speak for 30 minutes and open the floor to about 30 minutes of questions.
I was asked if we wanted Rene speaking on the companys behalf. I think that this should be petition and a list given so that we talk with Rene vs Frank.
All issues...things that we want changed or added on the website. Programming, etc...etc
thanks.....
Markjohnson555@hotmail....i will not be responding to people email , i will be posting the info on the board so that we can agree to what should be given to the company and as well a list of questions to be given for the conference.
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RG
Anyway - I voted for Rene just because he might be a clearer speaker. I also sent an email in regards to some stuff I think they should go over.
Do it guys, voice your opinion.
quote:
Originally posted by dolrขs:
I vote that we send U4 in there on our behalf. I am sure he will address all the issues without fail and to the point. Just hope he remembers to bring his calculator to address funding, operation cost, projected revenue and subscribers. U4, has my vote!RG
-R
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Just in case you missed it. Look at all the news coverage we had over the weekend alone!!
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. http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13908&sd=10/02/04-10/04/04
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. http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=655e3c63eb086fcd
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. http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Breaking+News
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. http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/10/100104gamesTV.htm
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. http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA457774.html?display=Breaking+News
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. http://www.suntimes.com/output/lazare/cst-fin-lew01b.html
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. http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13881&sd=10/01/04
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. http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/2409529
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. http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=14097
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. http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA457795.html?display=Breaking+News&referra l=SUPP
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Good reading!
Thanks Suz and 1Big
Can anyone verify that QTN is actually broadcasting the Aquatic Championships that started yesterday?
I wonder how happy the IGLA is about giving QTN "exclusive rights", considering that they can only be seen in a few homes in San Fran?
"Q Television Network also announced it has been awarded exclusive rights to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championships (IGLA) 2004. The Network will broadcast the IGLA from October 6-11. The competition will be held in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. IGLA competitions include Diving, Swimming, Synchronized Swimming, Water Polo and for the first time a one-mile ocean swim."
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What happened 1BigTip looks like the 15% of not having a PR kinda outwieghed the 85% side.
No worries though as there is a 99.9% chance that there will be another PR in a unset amount of time. lol
have i got my bases covered or what lol
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
PR coming Today. GREEEEEEN is coming !!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
OK, since U4 isn't interested in responding to query's, can ANYONE please point out to me evidence that 50 billion shares were issued?
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Any bets on conference call delays or prearranged questions?-R
And I thought I was a cynic.
I didn't see where we'll be able to ask questions. I think he'll just have a list of things he want's to talk about.
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~,-,-< GatorMan
his vision is clouded and he can not make a good judgment on this stock. he was wrong to buy at .02 and he is wrong now to bash the stock. He is a frustrated guy that probably spends most of his time in the fetal position watching his medved ticker going 200 shades of red.
I hope this helps you understand why he can not answer us or show us the proof.
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
But why is he unwilling to back up what he says with hard evidence? He points to PRs for some things but on others he just states that such-and-such happened and doesn't say where the information came from. As far as I know the flaws are imaginary.I WANT people to point out both the good and bad in any investment, but I also want a reputable place to go to verify.
Is that to much to ask?
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
he got carried away and bought 2,000,000 at .02 and the bottom fell out of it.
What are you talking about penny??? He owned millions if not 10's of millions at .0001 or .0002!! Don't worry, he did good & I highly dought he bought in the .02's or even the .01's!
I think he spoke about his private jet or was that Caskmaker? That also might have been before QBID's run.
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I'm sure he is still way ahead on the deal but he did buy at .02 and if you go back in the messages I'm certain you will see where he stated that.
either way I know he bought at .02 as he told me that when we used to chat. unless he was lying about it then as well.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
What are you talking about penny??? He owned millions if not 10's of millions at .0001 or .0002!! Don't worry, he did good & I highly dought he bought in the .02's or even the .01's!I think he spoke about his private jet or was that Caskmaker? That also might have been before QBID's run.
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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
i have spoke with in the past and he did buy at .02 and is bitter about it.I'm sure he is still way ahead on the deal but he did buy at .02 and if you go back in the messages I'm certain you will see where he stated that.
either way I know he bought at .02 as he told me that when we used to chat. unless he was lying about it then as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Trust me, most likely he was lying to get more buys at the time. But when I found allstocks in February, there he was talking about QBID. I'll do it but so can you..Go back to the past posts, you'll see he owned at .0001 or 2 so I highly dought he would buy again at .02. He knew what was coming.
plus the fact he started bashing end of May when it was still in the .01's. I also dought he would be bitter losing a small percentage. doesn't matter anyway - right?
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quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
And I thought I was a cynic.I didn't see where we'll be able to ask questions. I think he'll just have a list of things he want's to talk about.
Oops good catch. I skimmed through and saw that copied post from this demuse guy saying that it'll be 30 minutes of Frank/Rene and 30 minutes of questions. I have a feeling there won't be any Q&A time.
But yeah so I'm a cynic.. Speaking of which, has anyone kept a tally on that one guy's big list of predictions. He said 8 PRs in a row.. there were 3 or 4 I think. He also said big PR about new contracts and carriers by the end of the month... no luck. Don't remember any of his other items occuring either. Wonder what his deal is....
-R
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Any bets on conference call delays or prearranged questions?-R
That would not surprise me at all.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Trust me, most likely he was lying to get more buys at the time. But when I found allstocks in February, there he was talking about QBID. I'll do it but so can you..Go back to the past posts, you'll see he owned at .0001 or 2 so I highly dought he would buy again at .02. He knew what was coming.
plus the fact he started bashing end of May when it was still in the .01's. I also dought he would be bitter losing a small percentage. doesn't matter anyway - right?
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Unless he was untruthful, which could be the case, he did buy 2,000,000 at .02. I was on that same chat as Rod when he said that, but he did post it on here as well. But you're right, it really doesn't matter.
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
Unless he was untruthful, which could be the case, he did buy 2,000,000 at .02. I was on that same chat as Rod when he said that, but he did post it on here as well. But you're right, it really doesn't matter.
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So I knew I wouldn't be able to get a trustworthy answer from QTN, if I asked, so I decided to go a different route to find out if they are broadcasting the Aquatic Championships. I emailed the IGLA. I didn't get the kind of answer I had hope for, though...
MY EMAIL:
"I understand the Aquatics Championship is under way. I read that Q Television Network was broadcasting the games.
Excerpt from their press release of Sept 16:
"Q Television Network also announced it has been awarded exclusive rights to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championships (IGLA) 2004. The Network will broadcast the IGLA from October 6-11. The competition will be held in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. IGLA competitions include Diving, Swimming, Synchronized Swimming, Water Polo and for the first time a one-mile ocean swim."
Where can I view the games?
Thank you."
IGLA's REPLY:
contact them for viewing info
Please support our sponsors: American Airlines, Official Airline of IGLA, our host hotels: Sheraton Yankee Clipper & Sheraton Yankee Trader and Gay Games VII - Chicago 2006.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Olsen
IGLA 2004 Co-Chair http://www.igla2004.com/
(I wonder if they're related...)
quote:
Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Hey winsomlosem in response to your post...Qbid doesn't have the games until 2006...Read the pr again..For whatever that is good for. But still an answer to your post...Brandon
Different event entirely.
http://www.qtelevision.com/pressrelease09-16.html
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Q Television has the rights to broadcast the Gay & Lesbian Aquatic Games in FL that started yesterdayCHICAGO, Oct 1, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Chicago organizers of Gay Games VII today announced a multi-million dollar cash and barter deal assigning television and radio broadcast rights to the Q Television network. Q Television Network and Chicago Games, Inc. (CGI) signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) marking the final negotiation period for an agreement transferring the media rights to the California-based cable network.
The LOI outlines the broad terms of the proposed deal, including broadcast rights, joint development of Gay Games-related programming, broadcast airtime for advanced Gay Games advertising, and live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII events from 15 to 22 July 2006. As part of the proposed agreement, Q Television, a subscriber-based television network affiliated with RCN Cable and other providers, will unscramble its signal during live coverage of the Gay Games in 2006. Q Television would also serve as the agent for the redistribution of television and radio broadcast rights, allowing for access beyond Q Television's cable footprint, especially in international markets. The media rights being sold would not prohibit standard news coverage.
"It has been my dream to get television created specifically for the LGBT audience on the air," said Frank Olsen, CEO and President of Q Television. "With the Gay Games as our landmark network event, we will begin immediately to present the stories of the men and women worldwide that participate in the Games and build anticipation and excitement until the opening ceremonies."
Steven Grunberg, Executive Vice-President of Programming for the Q Television Network, said "Q Television is all about 'community' and showing LGBT life at its best and most uplifting. We are honored to be chosen as the home for the Games and we will work hand-in-hand with Chicago's organizers to deliver one of the great LGBT events of the new millennium."
Chicago Outstripping Fundraising Projections
"In the six short months since Chicago was selected as host of Gay Games VII, we've made dramatic progress toward our financial goals and achieved fundraising benchmarks months, or in some cases, years ahead of schedule," said Tracy Baim, CGI Board Co-Vice Chair and Chair of the Fundraising Committee. "Once broadcast rights are assigned, we will have raised more than US$3 million in cash and in-kind resources." CGI announced a million-dollar sponsorship deal with PlanetOut Inc. on 20 September 2004.
"We believe that these rapid and positive developments are representative of the widespread support for the Gay Games mission and the Gay Games VII business model," said Dennis Sneyers, CGI Co-Chair. "Our business plan is built upon years of analysis and study by the international Federation of Gay Games (FGG), a return to the core of the Gay Games - an event that is laser-focused on the athletes, artists and fans. A conservative budget, expert community organizers, a true partnership with the FGG, and top-notch vendors hired to implement key components of the plan means we now enjoy the confidence of our community, sports organizers worldwide, and now the corporate world."
"We are extremely excited to have a broadcast partner this far in advance of the Games," said Kevin Boyer, CGI Board Co-Vice President and Chair of the Marketing Committee. "Advanced television coverage and programming will let us tell the inspiring Gay Games story to even more people. The Gay Games have never had an opportunity like this and we are excited to be an integral part of the Q Television mission to create a network devoted to providing television programming for the LGBT community."
Negotiations were spearheaded by Amy Shomer of Plan B, Chicago's primary corporate sponsorship development firm. With offices in Los Angeles, Montreal and London, Plan B has worked to match corporate sponsors with the Gay Games since being retained by Chicago in early 2004. Corporate sponsorship of Gay Games VII is still available. Companies interested in learning more about Gay Games sponsorship should visit http://www.GayGamesChicago.org/sponsors/ or call (773) 907-2006.
2nd paragraph
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
WINSUMLOSESUM: Forgive me but I am not sure how to move a post from an old thread.
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[This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited October 07, 2004).]
Read my font:
Dif-fer-ent e-vent-en-tire-ly.
http://www.qtelevision.com/pressrelease09-16.html
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:16:29 -0400
From: sobeswim@bellsouth.net
To: <doctoall>
CC: "Jonathan Olson" <Jonolsenrealtor@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Q Television
doctoall,
As far as I know, Q Television is covering the event exclusively.
Alan Ngim
Nadadores of South Florida
doctoall wrote:
I am trying to confirm that your events are being exclusively covered by Q Television of Palm Springs CA. If you are able to confirm this for me one way or the other I would appreciate it.
doctoall
Ric
Q Television Network also announced it has been awarded exclusive rights to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championships (IGLA) 2004.
quote:
Originally posted by brandwilliams:
As far as I know, Q Television is covering the event exclusively.
Alan Ngim
Nadadores of South Florida
doctoall wrote:
I am trying to confirm that your events are being exclusively covered by Q Television of Palm Springs CA. If you are able to confirm this for me one way or the other I would appreciate it.
doctoall
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
Brandon
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
From: Tom Sheridan <IGRAPR@comcast.net>
Date: Thu Oct 7, 2004 22:22:45 US/Eastern
To: xxxxx
Subject: RE: q television
Reply-To: IGRAPR@comcast.net
We are working on it but, yes we are planning on it .
Tom Sheridan
IGRA PR/Marketing Spokesperson
SPOKESMAN@IGRA.COM
-----Original Message-----
From:xxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:26 AM
To: spokesman@igra.com
Subject: q television
To whom it may concern,
I am a shareholder of Q television and heard a rumor that Q television
will be broadcasting the gay rodeo. Is this true? I am just trying to
confirm a rumor.
Brandon
like this is ...here.....
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/009345-24.html
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
But thats all I have. Sorry
No need to apologize, doc. Not your fault.
Is there anyone in the Ft Lauderdale area that can go to these games and look for a camera crew???
Or is there anyone who knows anyone who has actually watched the games on QTN in San Fran???
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
yo win...one of the featured events (after water polo) is the world famous pink flamingo.........
http://www.outsports.com/localevents/
Yeah, I saw that. Is that the same as The Pink Flamingos (plural)? Weren't they a popular party band back in my misbehavin' days?
by that guy....john (something)...burn???
I would think they would put it on there somewhere. Maybe I am wrong but I didn't see it. Hopefully we can get someone from SF to confirm the airing.
Ric
im out for the night have a great day tommorrow
quote:
Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Hey winsomlosem in response to your post...Qbid doesn't have the games until 2006...Read the pr again..I guess that means if that Fat, high blood pressured cat who is suppose to be running a network.LOL Little on a gay network... And if they are still in business in 2006. But no loss for the poor gay people who couldnt make the regular olympic, since I assume noone carries the games anyway. So its not like they chose QBID over Fox Network... For whatever that is good for. But still an answer to your post...Brandon
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quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Yeah, I saw that. Is that the same as The Pink Flamingos (plural)? Weren't they a popular party band back in my misbehavin' days?
quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:
doc...your jonathan "olsOn" is different from winsum's jonathan "olsEn"......
Fair enough .. but why is (sorry doc) ... doctoall's Jonathan Olson's email address as jonolsEnrealtor .. olsen not olson as he spell's his name?
-->"Jonathan Olson" <Jonolsenrealtor@aol.com>
not sure if it matters much but <shrug> 
Maybe jonolsOnrealtor was already taken and the dude could care less. Maybe it was a typo when setting up the account - maybe it is time to sleep...
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78.23% of all statistics are made up on the spot...The other 35% are made up later on.
quote:
Originally posted by rosbro09:
By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 04:50 PM EDT
Msg. 45013 of 45060
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To All:
To All:Ok, I will need everyones help here because I will not have time to do this. Frank and Rene have asked me to ask shareholders(myself as well) why we see things different and fill as if we are in the dark. They asked me to pull up all the PRs in the last year and find out what issues we have with the company. For example, The April PR, announcing buyback with an O/S 7.5, then the dramatic increase. The website, etc. If people can start from the jan 1st, untill now with issues, things can be addressed.
RE conference call. Frank and Rene will speak for 30 minutes and open the floor to about 30 minutes of questions.
I was asked if we wanted Rene speaking on the companys behalf. I think that this should be petition and a list given so that we talk with Rene vs Frank.
All issues...things that we want changed or added on the website. Programming, etc...etc
thanks.....
Markjohnson555@hotmail....i will not be responding to people email , i will be posting the info on the board so that we can agree to what should be given to the company and as well a list of questions to be given for the conference.- - - - -
Many are not happy regarding the above post and its possible implications...The alias 'dmusephoto' posted a few more times tonight. Here are two from him that caught my attention...
First a message that dmusephoto responds to :
By: illuminati2012
07 Oct 2004, 07:13 PM EDT
Msg. 45198 of 45371
(This msg. is a reply to 45160 by mcflow2.)
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mcflow...I have no problem whatever with the CC. I have a problem with what demuse posted the CC will be . If it's a rehash it will be perceived as BS, you have to know that's corect. The PPS will be pounded, no doubt about it. I've talked face to face with Frank twice and over the phone a few times. I've met office and field employees for Q and felt strongly of Q's viability. If Frank holds a CC of things of promise, not concrete, QBID will be pumbled and will not recover soon. That is not what I expect from my dealings with the personel at Q, demuse post suggest a collapse of the PPS, that will happen with the agenda he proposes, have no dought. I was told by desert cities time warner that QTN would be available here in Jan., that was confirmed by someone else from this board. I'm greatly under the impression that great things are close for QBID. If the CC is a rehash of what we already know NOW, as suggested by demuse, we are in trouble. That is not what I expect, I hope demuse is wrong.
[His response ...]
By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 07:16 PM EDT
Msg. 45207 of 45371
(This msg. is a reply to 45198 by illuminati2012.)
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illum, relax.....i did not say these questions will be the forum.....they just want to know some things...please drop it. i don't know how to tell you otherwise....just forget if your confused..don't worry about it...lol how cow...
ps. cwr said we are on in palm springs now...?
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By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 07:33 PM EDT
Msg. 45239 of 45368
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I'll say it one more time......these questions will have no influence on the CC. They want to how we feel so that things will be changed. for example. new sections on the website: Investor relations info......like is TMM and Q the same thing, O/S and A/S...companu exc and their bios. I'm no longer going to talk abou this. The CC is about are future...goodnight and goodluck.. if you want to sell, fine by me i'm looking to buy another 25million.
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"Q Television Network also announced it has been awarded exclusive rights to the International Gay and Lesbian Aquatics Championships (IGLA) 2004. The Network will broadcast the IGLA from October 6-11. The competition will be held in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. IGLA competitions include Diving, Swimming, Synchronized Swimming, Water Polo and for the first time a one-mile ocean swim."
YOU HAVE NO SUBS AS OF YET AND A SIGNAL THAT IS BARELY RUNNING IN SAN FRANCISCO. ON THE IGLA WEBSITE, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF "CATCH US ON Q-TV" ANYWHERE.
GEE, EXCLUSIVE TELEVISION COVERAGE AND NOT A PEEP ABOUT IT ON THE IGLA WEB SITE; HOW INTERESTING.
HOW ABOUT THIS FRANK AS YOU ALWAYS DO:
"YOU TRIED TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE A HUGE EVENT TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK BETTER WHEN THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU DON'T HAVE SQUAT AND FURTHER, THIS ISN'T A SQUAT EVENT"
FURTHER, YOU DON'T HAVE SQUAT FOR A STATION.
HAVE ANOTHER BEER FRANK <HICCUP>
June 20, 2003 - From a poster. (skunksyard) Unofficial. Spoke with Frank Olsen...
Frank said he is now authorized to say that TTN has a 10 year contract with TWC....
From some questions I asked I got the feeling that the launch is more into the fall than this summer...
Frank was upbeat. Said QBID owns 100% of TTN. LBS is not a significant factor in QBID in terms of ownership.
"...we will not be announcing carriers until all contracts have been put together and signed, unless we have permission from a specific carrier. This will happen soon."
It's only been 3 months guys! Geez. We already have 1 (RCN). More to come.
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 08, 2004).]
2 Best parts of the story was this:
"TV Azteca was formed a decade ago in Mexico, a market then dominated by TV giant Televisa. Azteca eventually captured about 40 percent of viewers and 35 percent of Mexico's TV ad revenue, according to Advertising Age magazine."
10 years guys!! And eventually they captured viewers. QTN didn't just start, they know the ropes now. All they need to do is capture the viewers.
"Instead of us coming into the market as the new player in town, we come out of the chute running by partnering with Cox," Urbina said."
Open your eyes people.
The G&L market is huge and we're coming down the chute!
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2004/07/26/story4.html?page=1]http://www.bizjournals.com/..
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I know, I was just using a line from everyones good friend Mr. Bung. I could honestly care less about the way people spell.
I don't care about the usual mistakes (i.e., "teh" instead of "the") because they're usually just a quick typo. Other spelling errors speak volumes about the author. These are the misspellings that are 'interesting'.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
What are you talking about penny??? He owned millions if not 10's of millions at .0001 or .0002!! Don't worry, he did good & I highly dought he bought in the .02's or even the .01's!I think he spoke about his private jet or was that Caskmaker? That also might have been before QBID's run.
[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited October 07, 2004).]
BIG T,
UF DID NOT JUMP ON BOARD UNTIL LATE. .003'S. HE DID NOT GET IN AT .0001'S OR EVEN CLOSE.
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DIANA
I know he bought in the 10's also.Topic: Guys quit fooling with all these stocks and get into QBID While it's still cheap
U4TSAF2
Member posted February 09, 2004 19:48
RUFF RUFF RUFF ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU PEOPLE ARE PLAYING TO .01-.05 WHILE SOME OF US HAVE BOUGHT TODAY (MONDAY) AT .0021 AND ONCE AMERITRADE CLEARS THAT BUY, THE LIMIT ORDER IN AT $2.00
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
BIG T,UF DID NOT JUMP ON BOARD UNTIL LATE. .003'S. HE DID NOT GET IN AT .0001'S OR EVEN CLOSE.
U4TSAF2
Member posted February 08, 2004 00:36
QBID ABOUT TO LAUNCH.
CURRENT STOCK PRICE AS OF FRIDAY IS .0014. 100% UP FROM .0007 WITH READY FOR THIS:
ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
$1,000 AT .0014 IS 714,285 SHARES.
714,285 SHARES AT .01 IS $71,428.00.
I BELIEVE IT PREVIOUSLY HIT .03 AND NOT .30.
BUY YOUR $1,000 WORTH AND PUT YOUR LIMIT ORDER IN TO SELL AT THE SAME TIME FOR .01 THEN FORGET ABOUT IT AND ONE DAY WONDER WHERE THAT EXTRA 70 GRAND CAME FROM!
U4TSAF2
Member posted February 07, 2004 02:52
NOW FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ABSOLUTELY KIDDING ME.
NUMEROUS CHANNELS ON TV FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. NOW WE HAVE THE GAY/LESBIAN NETWORK. HENCE TTN.
BUT THIS IS A BUSINESS CALL AND I SEE THE EFFORT AND REASONING BEHIND IT.
DUCKS IN A ROW AND JUST ON RUMOR ALONE, THE GAY/LESBIAN "COMMUNITY" WILL KNAW AT THE BIT TO SUBSCRIBE TO THIS. CONSTANT CONDOM COMMERCIALS AND I WONDER WHAT THEY WILL BE LIKE.
.0014 ENTRY WITH $1,500,000 CASH TRADED ON FRIDAY. I SEE THIS NO DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CURRENT RUN OF GZFX (FORMERLY PGHI: VEEGEES.COM) UP FROM A LOW AKIN TO .0014 TO CURRENTLY .10.
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U4TSAF2
Member posted February 06, 2004 18:48
QBID ---- TRAINGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC.
CLOSED YESTERDAY AT .0007
UP 133%
TOTAL DOLLAR VOLUME IS $1,503,239
TOTAL SHARES TRADED 2,147,483,600
TODAY ANOTHER 100% AT .0014
02/05/2004 0.0007 -1,265,852,994
02/04/2004 0.0003 1,187,103,617
02/03/2004 0.0002 1,022,443,004
02/02/2004 0.0004 -1,461,179,144
THIS IS A REALLY HUGE DOLLAR VOLUME ON SUCH A PETITE/PINK STOCK; HENCE IT HAS MY ATTENTION. AS MOST OF YOU KNOW ALREADY, YOU CAN BUY MANY STOCKS BUT THE DOLLAR VOLUME AMOUNTS CAN REALLY STICK YOU WHEN YOU GOTO SELL.
NOW A WORD OF CAUTION:
INDIVIDUALS/BROKERS,PRIVATE PEOPLE CAN ALL PLAY TAG. WHAT THIS INVOLVES IN SEVERAL/MANY PEOPLE PUTTING IN WEIRD BID/ASK.
FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY STOCK A IS .01/SHARE.
TOM, DICK AND HARRY EACH OWN 1 MILLION SHARES EACH.
TOM PUTS A LIMIT ORDER IN AT .01 OR BETTER.
DICK PUTS A BUY ORDER IN AT .10 OR LESS.
DICK BUYS TOMS SHARES AND TRYS TO SELL ONCE AGAIN.
HARRY PUTS A LIMIT ORDER IN AT .20/SHARE.
DICKS SHARES SELL AT .20.
ALL THE MONEY STAYS PUT BETWEEN THE THREE BUT THEY CAUSE THE STOCK PRICE TO SHOOT UPWARDS. NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE CASE HERE OR NOT. I'M INCLINED TO BELIEVE THIS NOT TO BE THE CASE DUE TO THE HIGH DOLLAR VOLUME ON THIS STOCK.
BTW, nothing personal, U4. Nice to see you so bright and early. Actually I had already expressed concerns about the Aquatic Championships last night. I still wish someone could get to Ft. lauderdale and take some pics of a camera crew, if there is one. Maybe they ARE filming for broadcast at a later date, as was mentioned earlier..
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Seriously, is this going to be yet another day of discussing U4? Give it a rest, people. He doesn't deserve this kind of attention.BTW, nothing personal, U4. Nice to see you so bright and early. Actually I had already expressed concerns about the Aquatic Championships last night. I still wish someone could get to Ft. lauderdale and take some pics of a camera crew, if there is one. Maybe they ARE filming for broadcast at a later date, as was mentioned earlier..
Holy crappola!! I just checked IBZTE they are at the same price per share as QBID!!!
Perhaps U4 knows more than some of us give him credit for.
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Tight CHART. still looks good! Look.
http://tinyurl.com/4r7mw
Agreed but, I'd much rather be testing resistance than support right about now. LOL
quote:
Originally posted by sharkus:
Fair enough .. but why is (sorry doc) ... doctoall's Jonathan Olson's email address as jonolsEnrealtor .. olsen not olson as he spell's his name?-->"Jonathan Olson" <Jonolsenrealtor@aol.com>
not sure if it matters much but <shrug>
Maybe jonolsOnrealtor was already taken and the dude could care less. Maybe it was a typo when setting up the account - maybe it is time to sleep...
Maybe its a bull**** post.
19 Feb 04: also officially underscores ten-year contract with Time-Warner Cable that "enables us to place our signal throughout the Time-Warner system on a market-by-market basis:"
NOW THE STORY CHANGES AND HE CAN NOW TELL US HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH TIME WARNER:
1BigTip Member posted October 08, 2004 08:00 QBID owns 100% of TTN.
June 20, 2003 - From a poster. (skunksyard) Unofficial. Spoke with Frank Olsen...
Frank said he is now authorized to say that TTN has a 10 year contract with TWC....
WOW, I REMEMBER THOSE HOTLINE MESSAGES WHEN FRANK TOLD US THAT HE WOULD NOT DISCLOSE ANYTHING BECAUSE HE PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED INFO REGARDING CARRIER AND IT HURT HIM BEFORE REGARDING Q-TV. THIS STEMS FROM FRANK OLSEN LIEING THROUGH PR AND TELLING THE WORLD HE HAS A CONTRACT WITH DISH NETWORK AND NO SUCH CONTRACT/AGREEMENT EXISTED.
SO WHICH LIE IS IT:
DID HE LIE TO US BACK IN FEBRUARY OR WAS HE LIEING TO THIS PERSON?
SPEAKING OF THE #800-HOTLINE UPDATE FOR SHAREHOLDERS:
YOU ALL SEEM TO FORGET ALL THOSE ISSUES AND PROMISES FRANK MADE ON THAT HOTLINE WHICH NEVER CAME TO LIGHT. NEXT WEEK THIS, NEXT WEEK THAT. BE PATIENT AND WE HAVE GREAT NEWS COMING.
HOTLINE SOUNDED LIKE SOME OF FRANKS PR:
"Q IS DEFINITELY ON THE MOVE"
99-BOTTLE OF BEER ON THE WALL.....
3 June 04: "Successful Industry Launch Generates Interest from Carriers, Advertisers and Investment Leaders. We anticipated that the soft launch would generate lots of inquiries regarding the availability of Q Television for carriage and advertising, notes president Frank Olsen. Yet we were amazed how quickly everything has moved forward within the past 24 hours. The network expects to announce major contracts within the coming weeks."
OH THOSE MAJOR CONTRACTS. SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJOR INVESTMENT FIRM THAT GAVE QBID MONEY BUT FOR SOME REASON, THE MAJOR INVESTMENT FIRM IS NEVER NAMED. BUT IT'S MAJOR. DON'T FORGET FOLKS IT'S"
MAJOR
FINANCING TO SECURE 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST.
FEW WEEKS AFTER THAT: FINANCING IN THE AMOUNT OF $2-MILLION DOLLARS TO SECURE THE 1ST YEAR BROADCAST.
AND AGAIN, AFTER ALL THIS, RE-ISSUE ANOTHER 6-BILLION SHARES ON TOP OF 50-BILLION MORE.
AND HE'S DOING A 2% BUYBACK.
FRANK FRANK HE'S OUR MAN, HE CAN SCREW US SHAREHOLDERS FASTER THAN ANYONE CAN!
GOOOOOOOOO FRANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
26 May 04: "Move Over Fab 5: Q Television Has Arrived... New Gay Family Television Network Showcases its Unique Perspective Prior to Public Launch." An industry soft launch for carriers and advertisers begins June 1, 2004 on Intelsat America's 7, 129 degrees West, Channel 1.
HERE WE GO AGAIN TOUTING ADVERTISERS. HEY ADVERTISERS, LOOK AT US. OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T LOOK AT US, THERE IS NO SIGNAL UP THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING JUNE 1. THERE WAS NO SIGNAL PAST THE 10A-3P (5-HOUR) TEST RUN ON MAY 15.
ANOTHER OF THE MANY LIES FRANK OLSEN. GOSH, YOU WOULD THINK THAT WITH ALL THOSE INCENTIVES FOR FIRST YEAR ADVERTISERS, THEY WOULD BE BEATING DOWN YOUR DOOR.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THE STATION IS $7.95/MONTH AND I KNOW WHEN I ORDER HBO, CINEMAX AND SHOWTIME, I SEE LOTS OF COMMERCIALS FROM ADVERTISERS THAT GET SPECIAL INCENTIVES FOR ADVERTISING.
98-BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL.... <HICCUP>
broadcasting is a multi-bil $$ industry. are you concerned that Q gonna be taking away a piece of the pie that your company pays you to bash this stock so Q would go down. It is a competitive industry, you know. Just a thought.
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by tqn:
broadcasting is a multi-bil $$ industry. are you concerned that Q gonna be taking away a piece of the pie that your company pays you to bash this stock so Q would go down. It is a competitive industry, you know. Just a thought.
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited October 08, 2004).]
Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...
-R
[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 08, 2004).]
BATTLE OVER SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Tension grips gay rights caravan
Denver -- The nearly four dozen riders on the National Marriage Equality Express -- a caravan of activists traveling cross-country to fight for marriage rights for same-sex couples -- were on edge.
They'd encountered little hostility and a lot of warmth in the places they'd visited in Nevada, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado. On Wednesday, they had visited Laramie -- the town where Matthew Shepard, a gay student at the University of Wyoming, had been brutally murdered six years ago. Most considered the stop a highlight of the trip, but that horrible tragedy and the personal memories of violence the visit triggered were on their minds Thursday morning when one of the caravan passengers inexplicably disappeared.
Sometime after midnight Wednesday, Anthony Perez, a documentary filmmaker following the journey for the new gay and lesbian channel, the Q Television Network, walked out of his Denver hotel room without his cell phone or card key. He did not show up when the riders met in the hotel lobby the next morning. He didn't make it to the breakfast meeting with local gay and lesbian supporters or to the rally in Denver's Civic Center Plaza. When Perez still hadn't shown up by 11 a.m., the scheduled departure time, the bus left without him. Bewildered, Roland Torres, the other half of the documentary team, stayed behind and notified police.
The group's leaders, concerned that the riders might encounter anti-gay violence in the American heartland, had been lecturing from the start about safety. "I'm very, very angry," organizer Molly McKay said of Perez's disappearance. Her eyes were red-rimmed. "If you can't commit to the buddy system, take the next bus home."
At a memorial gathering the previous day in the Laramie bar where Matthew Shepard had stopped the night he was attacked, several of the riders had told personal stories about violence they had experienced. Kelly Rivera Hart had nearly been shot -- he didn't know if it was a BB gun or a real gun -- while he waited at a bus stop in San Francisco. Joe Alfano had been beaten up on the Lower East Side in New York. Davina Kotulski, who came out when she was 15, was harassed all through high school in the small Oregon town where she grew up. When she was 18, someone at a party threw a table on her and threatened to gang rape her.
The stories they'd been sharing hung heavily as the riders formed a circle and silently held hands, before filing soberly back onto the bus in Denver and resuming their journey -- which was starting to feel like a strange psychology experiment.
As the mountains of Colorado melted into the flat plains of Kansas, the mood on the bus was tense. After traveling at a relentless pace for three days, the riders were exhausted. They were drained from the emotional intensity of their encounters -- one woman said she cried so much it was like watching the movie "Terms of Endearment" over and over. And now one of their number was missing.
A couple of hours later at a rest stop, McKay picked up the microphone. "Good news," she said. She had gotten a cell phone call from the filmmakers. Though the reception was poor, this much she confirmed: "Anthony's fine ... They'll meet us in St. Louis."
Claps, sighs.
Three days earlier -- before the exhaustion, the giddiness, the emotional circus, the hours curled up in small bus seats -- organizers announced that any latecomers on the bus would be charged with cleaning the bathroom.
Now the cry started from the back. "Latrine duty! Latrine duty! Latrine duty!"
Speaking again by phone later in the afternoon, Perez explained what had happened. He had gone to the hotel lounge for a late-night drink and had been stopped by a security guard. Perez, a 26-year-old Latino man, apparently didn't have the right answers for the guard: He had accidentally left his key behind, he didn't know his room number.
The guard called the police, who took him to a detoxification center. Without his cell phone or contact numbers or even quarters for a pay phone, he hadn't been able to reach anyone until he was released in the afternoon -- to the enormous relief of Torres, the other filmmaker.
"I was petrified" that Perez had been attacked, Torres said. "It's so sad that that's a knee-jerk reaction for gay people."
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Caravan coverage
The Chronicle is covering the National Marriage Equality Express as it crosses the country. To see all the stories, go to www.sfgate.com. The caravan riders are also posting Web logs and photographs of their adventures at the Web site www.marriageequalityca.org.
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...
-R
quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...
-R
U0 - People are being sarcastic when they call my buddy (U4) a paid basher. I think the last laugh is on you. I bet U4 is even chuckling at your post.
READ THIS from the Wall Street Journal:
http://www.investing.wsj.com/tools-body4.html
A little preview, click link to read all;
Message Boards
There's no question that message boards can be a great resource. But they can be dangerous places, and investors have lost fortunes by trading on information they read on the boards. Securities regulators say they are troubled by the fact that so many investors seem to believe the message boards are full of hot "sure-thing" stock tips.
Message boards shouldn't be viewed as any different from a crowded room full of strangers. Trading on advice there is akin to trading on stock tips you receive from a stranger's conversation you overhear at a party. Still, people do it all the time. In fairness, message-board users have at times come up with quality "scoops" about companies -- catching wind of a merger before it happens, or learning that the company has secured a patent on a new technology. But often the information on the boards is pure speculation.
It's important to understand that just about everyone who posts messages has a motive, and it may be different from yours. When money is at stake -- as it is with any investment -- there's really no such thing as a completely objective discussion. People don't want to hear bad news about companies they invest in, and even the best-intentioned debates often end up in mudslinging. Likewise, it's important to remember that short sellers -- those who bet that the price of a stock will decline -- can profit by stirring up panic on a message board. People also can profit by stirring up excitement on the boards about stocks they own.
All these things point to the importance of not relying on information you read on the boards. "You should assume everything you read online is false until you can confirm it somewhere else," said John Stark, chief of the SEC's Office of Internet Enforcement. "People know not to believe everything they read, but think that somehow the Internet makes things more legitimate, and it certainly does not."
Here are some things to watch out for, and ignore, on the boards:
Bashers. Just as stock promoters and other hypesters profit by pumping a stock, bashers, or those critical of a company, can profit by getting a stock's price to fall. Message-board participants who are positive on a stock are always quick to suggest that anyone who bashes the stock must be a short seller -- someone betting the stock's price will fall. Most of the time, that's just plain wrong. But the SEC says it is becoming more and more concerned that some people on the boards who appear to be critical observers are actually slamming a company so that they can profit from a short sale. It's irresponsible to dismiss anyone with a negative comment as a short seller, but it would also be a mistake to think that anyone bashing a stock is just trying to save you from a bad investment. Do your own research.
Ric
quote:
Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
.035!!!!! They shouldn't be allowed to make those mistakes, I almost had a stroke!!
Terry[This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 08, 2004).]
if .035 gave you a heart attack , it's .0033 earlier. td waterhouse quoted me usci .021 yesterday afternoon.
Ralph
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FACTA NON VERBA
From "the most" credible source.
Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:34:50 PM
Post #of 29025
RCN Manhattan should be on today.eom
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Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:37:10 PM
Post #of 29025
Others will follow. no dates,do not know the order.
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Posted by: dmphoto
Date:10/8/2004 12:41:24 PM
Post #of 29025
delay was technical, S a t e l l i t e s
it happens.....when launching a new network, it simple happens
quote:
Originally posted by Qbidder:
hello everyone
just on to check the charts and wondering if anyone has an idea why the drop of 40% in a month of the pps?
BigT wondering if you can shed some light on the red?Ralph
hope all is well
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FACTA NON VERBA
quote:
Originally posted by Qbidder:
Thanx BigT
this is Ralph ex Sottotono
email is the same but I had problems with signing into Allstocks so the easiest thing was to change Username.hope all is well
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FACTA NON VERBA
Late last night on TV, I saw a kind of nasty looking guy pitching his "trading" products. I got the same feeling then. However, instead of trading, this guy "shares" his wisdom with others (for a price).
Are we not lucky to get our advise for free?
Qbidder...LOL! All of us here on this QBID thread have invested in a safety "helmet" for all of the head-banging!! But, hey, knee pads and a cup might work, too! LOL
Hi 1BIG.
can you tickle the Q's feet so maybe it might jump a little?
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FACTA NON VERBA
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Hey Clyde, I can visualize your Frank of Mash fame daytrading. LOLLate last night on TV, I saw a kind of nasty looking guy pitching his "trading" products. I got the same feeling then. However, instead of trading, this guy "shares" his wisdom with others (for a price).
Are we not lucky to get our advise for free?
RobinO (U0) can be hot lips hoolihan
Beware of the Basher!
Investopedia Staff (Investopedia.com)
Whether you are fairly new to online investing or a seasoned veteran, you've probably seen the message boards and chat rooms that focus on stocks. Many of these boards make tabloids look tame, churning out rumor after rumor 24 hours a day. Some of the more popular boards are getting upwards of 10,000 posts daily. Here we look at how the practice of bashing takes place on these boards, and how you can handle bashers when you encounter them.
The Advent of the Internet
No technology has changed the financial industry more than the Internet, which has allowed individual investors from every corner of the globe to meet and talk about the prospects and risks of companies. The free flow of information has changed the very way we invest, but this mass communication does not come without a price. The anonymity of the Internet has allowed unscrupulous people to distort and control artificially the price of a stock--these people are the bashers.
What Is a Basher?
A basher is a person who lurks in the shadows of investment chat rooms spreading calculated, and almost always unfounded, confidence-shaking news about a stock. The basher's purpose is to instigate a sell off that will in turn drive the stock price down, either for his or her own benefit or that of his or her employer.
This practice may seem fairly simple, but there is a science behind it. Supposedly, reputable companies and investment firms sometimes hire bashers to help make the conditions for a takeover more favorable. You see, when one company wants to buy another, stock price is king. If the stock of a multi-billion dollar target company changes even by one dollar, the difference in the price of the takeover can be millions of dollars. A basher who successfully pushes down the price of a stock may receive a very lucrative compensation.
How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock.
Here are some basher tactics that online chatters should be aware of:
Bashers lie! Bashers have no ethical code that prevents them from lying. They will lie blatantly and often.
Bashers usually bash stocks that are more volatile Bashers usually only go after stocks that could show a large increase or decrease in price. There's a low probability that a basher would ever be able to influence a company with a huge float like General Electric, for example.
Bashers will use any news Bashers will not favor recent news over old news, or vice versa. They'll take information out of context if it will help depress a stock.
Bashers exploit investors' lack of knowledge Most bashers rely on the notion that most investors don't check their facts and, as such, will use false information to sway people.
Bashers post frequently Bashers are a persistent bunch. Through the use of repetition, they attempt to wear down those on the long side of stocks.
Bashers can travel in packs It is common for a group of bashers to enter a chat room quietly and carefully and feed off each other's posts to dominate subtly the sentiment of the room.
Who Are Bashers' Prey?
As you can probably gather from the above list of tactics, bashers do not target well-informed investors but those who are easily persuaded. Bashers know that "green" or rookie investors are inherently wary of the market and oversensitive to bad news.
Anyone in a chat room who claims to be your friend and have your best interests in mind is likely a basher--after all, why would anyone give good advice for free in a chat room ? It's doubtful that experts such as Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch frequent these rooms. (Read more on Peter Lynch here.)
Levels of Bashers' Skills
The most effective bashers have strategies that are very well thought out. They often develop a character who draws attention and builds trust from others on the chat board. Good bashers try to appear sophisticated: they never use profanity because that would cause people to ignore them. Quite often, these bashers will respond condescendingly to their questioners for asking such "stupid" questions.
The purpose is to get a reaction from other posters: the more reaction, the more the room will be disrupted. To throw yet another wrench into the works, bashers often send in another person to side with the longs of a stock. Again, the idea behind this is to distract people, and to spread rumors and confusion throughout the room.
Not all bashers display such proficiency and dedication. Like any profession or sport, the bashing world has participants at different skill levels. It helps to know how the experts operate differently from the novices, so here is a list of the skills displayed in the different "leagues" (to use a baseball analogy) of bashers:
Major League The major league bashers are excellent at what they do. The better the bashers are at their game, the tougher they are to spot. They are online constantly, always attacking and attempting to make positive postings look unreasonable. Those in the major leagues are masters at manipulation, knowing how to convince other chatters that a particular stock should be sold immediately.
AAA These bashers are able to twist the meanings of words, phrases, quotes, and press releases quite compellingly; however, they do not have the same influence over others as those in the major leagues.
AA - These bashers are still learning the subtleties of the art of appearing like a trustworthy, sophisticated fellow investor. For example, a AA basher may react overzealously to comments that question his or her perpetually bearish attitude.
Bat Boy Although this level of basher knows the profession and has known some major leaguers, he or she is utterly useless in the ways of bashing. The bat boy bashers make themselves obvious, using profanity, name calling and irrational arguments. These bashers are easily identified.
How to Handle Bashers
There are basically two ways in which chatters can handle bashers. Firstly, you should simply ignore them because they want and feed off attention. If they aren't getting any, they'll likely slink away and attempt to prey on more receptive victims. But sometimes the tenacious basher invading a good chat room needs to be confronted. Here are some tips that, if you must confront a basher, will likely help:
Do your due diligence. The phrase, "knowledge is power" is no more true than in this instance. Try to post a number of well-researched messages that confound the premise of a basher's arguments.
Do not engage bashers directly, but instead post general and open-ended messages disputing bashers' posts.
Remind those in the chat room that the mere fact that something is in writing does not make it the truth.
Conclusion
Bashing is always happening, so it's important for you to realize there are people out there who make a good living out of manipulating investors. Participating in a chat forum can be both enjoyable and insightful, but always remember to look at each message with the knowledge that its sender may not be sincere.
Cheers,
Investopedia Staff
Think that will work?
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Originally posted by RobinO:
You guys actually believe that people get paid to bash stocks on here? I've seen people here speculate that these 'bashers' get paid $x for every reply they get or for every time someone mentions their name. So tell me...Is there some mid level manager sitting in his big office, reading the board, counting the number of replies to his posts? Do you think their payroll department utilizes a graduated scale so he gets $x for the first 10 responses, $2x for the next 10, and $4x for any beyond that? Would that make him an exempt or non-exempt employee... HM. I wonder how much vacation time he gets.Absurdity. Oddly enough, if you do a search on the SEC's website, they have several pages of information on paid pumpers in the OTC market. Nothing about paid bashers though, aside from some letters written in by message forum members making the same assinine assumptions about people getting paid per post or reply...
-R
After GMED's Washington meeting--it will fly again.
I would like to add more but also hope this does not turn out to be another IBZT!!
Monday July 12, 6:00 am ET Frank Olsen of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. States: There is No Business or Economic Reason for the Current Share Value Decline.
TRIANGLE MULTI-MEDIA INC (QBID)
0.0033 -0.0004 (-10.81%)
OH FRANK, YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME THE SHORTERS. YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME THE MARKET MAKERS. YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME SANTA CLAUSE. BUT HOW ABOUT A DOSE OF REALITY:
YOU FRANK OLSEN, YOU ARE THE ONE SPEWING LIES.
YOU FRANK OLSEN ARE THE ONE MIS-REPRESENTING YOUR COMPANY.
YOU FRANK OLSEN CONTINUE TO TELL US "Q IS ON THE MOVE" AND "THINGS ARE GOING GREAT".
YOU FRANK OLSEN ARE THE ONE WHO TWISTS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT FOR SOME GAY OLYMPICS AS A REVENUE SOURCE FOR QBID.
YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US YOUR THE "SOLE" BROADCAST RIGHTS HOLDER FOR SOME SWIM EVENT IN FLORIDA AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A STATION UP AND RUNNING TO SHOW IT ON.
YOU ARE THE ONE FRANK OLSEN WHO TELLS US A ADVERTISING PROGRAM IS TO BEGIN JUNE 21 AND HIRE A INDUSTRY EXPERT WHO HAS WORKED WITH ALL THE MAJOR ADVERTISING FIRMS AND TO DATE HAS NOT DONE SQUAT.
YOU ARE THE ONE FRANK OLSEN WHO TELLS US THAT JUNE 1, A 24-HOUR SIGNAL WILL BE UP AND RUNNING FOR ADVERTISERS AND CARRIAGE INSIDERS TO SEE WHEN THE FACT IS THE SIGNAL NEVER RAN FOR ANYONE TO SEE EXCEPT FOR A 5-HOUR 10AM-5PM MAY 15TH DATE. FURTHER, THIS TIME SLOT YOU PICKED IS OUTSIDE THE MAIN GAY VIEWING AUDIENCE SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED AND WORKING TRADITIONAL BUSINESS HOURS WHICH ARE 9AM-5PM.
YOUR THE ONE TELLING US YOU HAVE STUDIO SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY RENTED, CHANGE YOUR TUNE TO YOU BOUGHT A NEW BUILDING THEN BACK TO YOUR RENTING STUDIO SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AGAIN. FURTHER, YOUR FIRST PROGRAM WAS "I DO, WE DID" AND YOU HAVE NO OTHER PROGRAMMING BUT YOUR TELLING US YOU HAVE ALL THIS RENTED SPACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YOU TELL US IN FEB THAT YOU HAVE 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME WARNER THEN RECENTLY YOU TELL A SHAREHOLDER THAT YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THAT DEAL NOW.
YOU FRANK OLSEN PUT UP A #800 HOTLINE NUMBER THAT TELLS US WHAT'S COMING TO ONLY SEE THAT IT NEVER COMES TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US ABOUT Q-MOBILES.
YOU FRANK OLSEN TELL US YOU HAVE 5-YEAR GUARANTEED FINANCING. THEN YOU FOLLOW SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND TELL US YOU GOT A $2-MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO SECURE 1ST YEAR BROADCAST. THEN YOU ISSUE 6 BILLION ON TOP OF 50-BILLION MORE SHARES TO TOTAL 71-BILLION SHARES.
YEA FRANK, THIS IS NO ECONOMIC OR BUSINESS REASON FOR THE SHARE DECLINE. THIS IS THE ONE THING YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY POSTIVELY 100%.
THE REASON IS FRANK OLSEN. <BURP>
Off topic but an unoffical Public Service Announcement:
I called my doctor about getting my flu shot--not available this year--have to be high risk--even though I attend to eldery relatives!
If I do get the flu or a cold, I will enroll in GMED's trial programs. Their protocol works on viruses--sounds unbelieveable, but this even worked on the West Nile Virus.
They can be found on their website.
Hopefully, we will all be healthy and will not need their services, but should you need them--act fast. The sooner you start, the quicker you recover.
Be back in a few hours.
[This message has been edited by suzainiee (edited October 08, 2004).]
So, you might want to phone around about your flu shot. I know when I was caring for my dying mother, I was able to get the flu shot because I was at risk because she was in an Alzheimer's unit in the end (I was ALWAYS there with her)...this was 2 years ago when supply shortage also existed...just FYI...Call around and maybe you can find someone who will give you the shot....Because if you're caring for ailing relatives, you certainly need to be healthy!
THE FARTHER AWAY YOU STAY FROM DOCTORS THE LONGER YOU WILL LIVE, THAT IS A FACT!
Why is the average life span of a doctor 58? But a typical american 76.
Email me if you want to discuss. Our bodies heal naturally.
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Oh Dear Lord, don't get me started on that subject! FLU SHOTS AND MEDS ARE A WASTE!THE FARTHER AWAY YOU STAY FROM DOCTORS THE LONGER YOU WILL LIVE, THAT IS A FACT!
Why is the average life span of a doctor 58? But a typical american 76.
Email me if you want to discuss. Our bodies heal naturally.
What do you do for pain killers?
That's like holding your hand on a burning stove and giving yourself local anastesia to cover the pain. Sure it feels better, but the problem is still there.
Ok, Now we've gone to off topic. Email me to discuss, no more responses.
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
What do you do for pain killers?
GO QBID!!! Bring On The Green.------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
[B]Q gets into a little bit of drama:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/08/BAG4M9613V1.DTL
WOW! Scary. Good for Q. I think this is huge news. Perhaps Bigger places should here about this. I'm e-mailing this to Every news network out there and see what happens.
Perhaps nothin' but, it can't hurt.
Lil
Here's a bullet list of most of marco's statements, just so they're easier to keep track of.
QBID will be off the pinks really soon
announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month
(check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week
major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday
shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term
frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times
emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters
QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock
there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex
if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move
i have palced all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals
they are live in other cities but the hurricane has taken out the southwest transponder. they will have it back up in texas on friday thanks to Leonard firestone
own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now
in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")
QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance
its going to be an overview of the company that is faxed and emailed, i have copy do you want to see it. give me your emai
right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch
qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week
I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon
QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or firday.
i talked to frank olsen for 25 minutes today they were on the air for 3 days, ignore these losers. here is another prediction network will be full airing by Friday or latest over the weekend. if you doubt me call Frank olsen yourself
760-323-4455. Thats his direct phone number
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quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
BIG T,UF DID NOT JUMP ON BOARD UNTIL LATE. .003'S. HE DID NOT GET IN AT .0001'S OR EVEN CLOSE.
Scary thing is BIG T is usually right!
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FACTA NON VERBA
i thought he was smarter then that.
lol
quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
If he was pumping at .0007 then for sure he owned it. Trust me.[b]U4TSAF2
Member posted February 08, 2004 00:36QBID ABOUT TO LAUNCH.
CURRENT STOCK PRICE AS OF FRIDAY IS .0014. 100% UP FROM .0007 WITH READY FOR THIS:ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
$1,000 AT .0014 IS 714,285 SHARES.
714,285 SHARES AT .01 IS $71,428.00.
I BELIEVE IT PREVIOUSLY HIT .03 AND NOT .30.
BUY YOUR $1,000 WORTH AND PUT YOUR LIMIT ORDER IN TO SELL AT THE SAME TIME FOR .01 THEN FORGET ABOUT IT AND ONE DAY WONDER WHERE THAT EXTRA 70 GRAND CAME FROM!
[/B]
input anyone?
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I refuse to use his name anymore but can commit on things said. Good point though. Could it be Logo or HereTV? I don't know how they are paid, so if it is a paid bash we need to at least leave the user name out even if we do respond. I think everyone will know who we are talking about.
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited October 08, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Well I just did a search with key word paid bashing stock and I got so many hits it was silly. How can you say you did a search and found nothing.
Yes it says there are people who bash stocks so they can drive the price down and buy up more. Nothing shocking about that. What I'm talking about is the morons on here who actually believe that there are companies that have employees sitting around bashing stocks all day and getting paid per reply or whatever. If you skim around the board, you'll find that just about every thread has someone making comments about this. One post in particular that I read last week in another thread had some people speculating on how much the basher gets paid per post. And no I don't think they're all being sarcastic about it.
Regardless, the issue is that people actually attribute the sinking pps to a handful of idiots like U4. It's never the company's fault...
-R
sort of sorry to read that. i had an idea marco was mostly correct. but a bunch of those stand out as incorrect, though some are close....4 not 5 prs, frank on ceocast said 6 months to a yr to be reporting, still not up & running completely on rcn. it doesn't chance anything about q but he sounds more like a pumper talked about in that article a bunch of posts back then an inside banker....too bad it didn't work if he is pumping
quote:
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Originally posted by RobinO:
How could I possibly sabotage this company? If a company tanks because one person asks questions about it, what good is the company to begin with? The success of this company depends entirely on how QTN proceeds. If you think you or I have any effect on the future of a television station by talking between 20-30 people on an online forum, you're nuts.
Other Robin: If you think I should just shut up and leave because I've said what I had to say, doesn't that mean you should as well? After all, you've said what your hopes and dreams are, so why not go away and let things happen as they will? Why should this rule only apply to me? And no, I'm not Purl Gurl, although I wish there were more people like her still around. It's good to talk with people who actually use logic and reason every now and then...
-R
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RobinO - I wouldn't say that anyone wants you to leave. I have never thought of you as a basher but, by the overall tone of your posts I feel you want the stock to fail.
quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
Hi, RobinO! You will obviously benefit greatly from the above article. LOL
Yes, fantastic. What it basically says is don't listen to anyone but the cheerleaders. Keep up the good work tiger.
-R
quote:
Originally posted by kencoda:
I believe someone requested this a few pages back. Would be helpful if someone could "check mark" which items Marco has been correct on:Here's a bullet list of most of marco's statements, just so they're easier to keep track of.
QBID will be off the pinks really soon not yet (not yet)
announcing carriage with aol/ time warner @ end of month (wrong)
(check) QBID has retained a major IR group to start a campaign for them as early as next week ( ? )
major press releases every day for next 2 weeks to supplement IR campaign starting monday ( started looking good but failed after 5 i believe )
shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term ( cant confirm or deny this claim)
frank is in NY i will see him friday he is interviewing w/ wall street journal and daily times ( I have not seen these interviews )
emails are going to opt-ins on variopus stockboards and newsletters ( cant confirm ) QBID is going to be doing capmaigns once a month to chase shorts out of the market and revive the stock ( ? )
there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex ( STILL TO BE SEEN )
if i give out a target i can go to jail i am not an chartered financial analyst. but company has just started its big move
i have palced all of these investments. there are more to come all will be restricted deals ( ? )
they are live in other cities but the hurricane has taken out the southwest transponder. they will have it back up in texas on friday thanks to Leonard firestone ( San Fran area. Firestone is confirmed )
own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now( ? )
in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months") ( ? )
QBID is on the air, the hurricance caused technical difficulties. they are moving the repsonder and satelite to Texas from New Orleans, this should be done tomorrow or firday. justs so you know QBID was on the air for 3 straight days before the hurricance ( ? cant confirm them being on the air before move)
its going to be an overview of the company that is faxed and emailed, i have copy do you want to see it. give me your emai ( ? )
right now there is 5 press release already slated for release starting tomorrow, Frank wants to do 8 - one everyday until next friday. just watch ( 5 is all we seen )
qbid is paying 150K for this IR campaign it going to blow the doors off the stock. ( not yet ) 100 mm emails and 25 mm faxes going out over the next 2 weeks. news every day this week ( ? )
I am the banker for this company. There is a 10mm restricted stock deal to be announced real soon ( ? )
QBID is up in san fran. they will be back up acroos the nation tomorrow or firday. ( nope only San Fran )
i talked to frank olsen for 25 minutes today they were on the air for 3 days, ignore these losers. here is another prediction network will be full airing by Friday or latest over the weekend. if you doubt me call Frank olsen yourself
760-323-4455. Thats his direct phone number[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 16, 2004).][/B]
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quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Yes it says there are people who bash stocks so they can drive the price down and buy up more. Nothing shocking about that. What I'm talking about is the morons on here who actually believe that there are companies that have employees sitting around bashing stocks all day and getting paid per reply or whatever. If you skim around the board, you'll find that just about every thread has someone making comments about this. One post in particular that I read last week in another thread had some people speculating on how much the basher gets paid per post. And no I don't think they're all being sarcastic about it.Regardless, the issue is that people actually attribute the sinking pps to a handful of idiots like U4. It's never the company's fault...
-R
read this -
How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock (or even competition reason).
RO, you dont go out much, do you! people just about do anything to earn a few bucks.
[This message has been edited by tqn (edited October 08, 2004).]
I don't think its "paid bashing" people here need to worry about..its "paid pumping" which for sure goes on with BB and pink stocks..
Brandon
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As I pointed out in messages before, I am a share holder, but do not trust QBID's PR's.
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Brandon you biatch how are ya lol
Rod
quote:
Originally posted by brandwilliams:
These articles say short sellers can profit from the bashing of a stock. Well anyone here ever shorted a BB stock? Cause I sure can't. And I don't believe for a second that ppl are being paid to bash a stock to drive the price down so they can buy in at a cheap price. Thats just not true. I believe paid bashing goes on but deals with Nasdaq and NYSE stocks, since they can be shorted. Notice the articles posted here don't say BB stocks do they... ????I don't think its "paid bashing" people here need to worry about..its "paid pumping" which for sure goes on with BB and pink stocks..
Brandon
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I am not bashing this stock or Frank I am telling the truth. I still like the chances in the future but only if We get everything that we need to be a successful NEWTWORK. Like I said I must bow-out for now. But I will be back after I can recooperate some of my LOSSES.
With my LUCK this QBID will probably skyocket in price NOW. THAT I AM OUT.
Good Luck everyone.
Just for curiousity sake I AM Going to recoop my money in:
ARES and ENUI. DarDaDog is in ENUI too. He is a very talented Stock Picker.
Earth_Man
I WILL NEED IT. IN THE WORLD OF PENNIES. But I will be BAck. You can count on that.
Do yourself a favor. CHECK OUT ENUI. This is DarDaDog's PUPPY. IM IN THIS and ARES for NOW.
Earth_Man
Favorite line from a sucessfull network before they became sucessful:
"Instead of us coming into the market as the new player in town, we come out of the chute running by partnering with Cox," Urbina with Azteca said."
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYONE.
Thanks for the suggestion, Sunny. I called back. An "If you are calling about flu shots, please press 5" was added to the afterhours voicemail.
Seems that none of the flu vaccine has arrived and may not get there at all this year.
I'm taking my Mom next week to one of her doctors. IF he has the vaccine, I'm sure he will let me get one too. Thanks again.
1BigTip, I do try to go as natural as possible.....but I did get the flu a couple of years ago. It was so bad that my hair hurt--don't want to go down that road again.
They schedule you for an MRI just to make a few hundred bucks! They are in the "sickness" industry, not the "health" industry.
The Wall Street Journal November 30, 1999
"Between 44,000 and 98,000 Americans die each year as a result of medical mistakes"
http://www.productslaw.com/medmal2.html
I told you I can go on. Find me a forum instead of wasting other peoples time here. Sorry guys.
Next time you see a commercial for a prescription drug, listen for all the side effects. Thats their disclaimer, thats what part of your body that is in danger in the long run.
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quote:
Originally posted by firefly:
ms,,looks like the beams have changed to conus. Any insight,,Thanks.
The beam was always conus and the signal never migrated to Firestone in Texas. The truth is that RCN is not up-to-date with their receiving equipment and therefore will experience delays in other markets.
Currently, Firestone is receiving our signal and sends it via fiber optic cable to RCN in San Francisco. In other words they just turning the signal around to a format RCN San Francisco can see and hear. The program always did and still does originate from NTI in New Orleans.
Therefore QTN's press release was false and incorrect. With all the "Enron's" etc. one thinks of the creditability of a company. As I wrote before, I am a share holder and somewhat disappointed in the truthfulness of QTN. How many other PR's are incorrect or false?
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So many topics have been addressed today.
The idea of a list of questions for the CC is very interesting.
For me, until I actually hear Frank's discussion during the CC, I'm not sure what I would ask.
Within his 30 minutes, he could easily give a comprehensive summary of accomplishments and future plans. In that situation, there would not be a great need for many questions.
QTN has a PR firm that can advise Frank on how to best conduct the conference.
Anything that has or has not happened in the past cannot be changed. My main interest is in the future of QTN.
Bashers don't bash bad stock.
The reason is the don't need to. But I don't know about paid bashers or not but to say there is no paid bashers out there, then thats wrong. Doesn't matter if they're paid or not, they should get the same response though and thats don't give them the time of day.
Ric
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it is public information that you can see on the website she posted.
there is also a picture of Frank and Rene sitting in front of their transmitting equipment floating around somewhere. anyone in the know of Radio and Television broadcasting could look at the photo and tell you what they have there. It didn't look to impressive to me.
I find it interesting to listen to MSgulfport.
the fact that they are sending the signal to Firestone, and having them upgrade the signal doesn't sound like it should be a problem. it is probably a cheaper solution then to go and invest a pile of money into different equipment to do what they need to do. They would pay Firestone to do the conversion and they have the capabilities to send it back up for transmission on a different satellite. after all that is what Any of the DBS satellites do they receive the programming from many different satellites, combine them into another upstream that then feeds it back down to their customers.
chances are the equipment is a bit dated as the probably bought it used 5 years ago when they first intended to broadcast, and kept it in mothballs so to speak until now. Not really knowing that it was outdated they made their plans to use this equipment. I know that the industry has changed a lot in the last 5 years, just look at all the HDTV and igher resolution cable boxes that have come out in the last several years.
that does not seem to far fetched for me to believe. and would not surprise me that this has been a big part of the delay.
OK ill stop rambling on here lol
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Originally posted by firefly:
Geez ms I wasn't accusing you of anything,,just asking a question,,also is this propriotory information? Don't want you to get in trouble. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040917/175120_1.html
I think this is the exciting and forward looking.
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
I do apologize for this off topic post, but the flu caused a lot of deaths last winter.Thanks for the suggestion, Sunny. I called back. An "If you are calling about flu shots, please press 5" was added to the afterhours voicemail.
Seems that none of the flu vaccine has arrived and may not get there at all this year.
I'm taking my Mom next week to one of her doctors. IF he has the vaccine, I'm sure he will let me get one too. Thanks again.
1BigTip, I do try to go as natural as possible.....but I did get the flu a couple of years ago. It was so bad that my hair hurt--don't want to go down that road again.
You have specific knowledge and skills that most of us do not have.
RCN replied to inquiries that the network would be available. I think that there was a lot of confusion somewhere along the line.
I have spoken with other "television technical" people. They say that the industry is in a "mess".
They also say that it is going to get worse before it gets better. Oh, and that the big increase in new networks--already some analog and some digital is making it--complicated or something close to that--sorry I can remember the rest. You probably know what they are talking about.
However, I'm not ready to accuse anyone of anything, yet. That could also be dangerous.
Having worked for many years in an environment where the answer to a question depended entirely upon whichever person answered it, I have experienced such frustration and did not like it either.
What I'm trying to say is that often I received misinformation based on another's misinformation--none of it intentional--just a big organization.
Hopefully, all of your questions and concerns will be addressed on the 28th.
Thanks for providing technical information for us, and Good Luck to you!
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Originally posted by firefly:
Geez ms I wasn't accusing you of anything,,just asking a question,,also is this propriotory information? Don't want you to get in trouble. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040917/175120_1.html
I think this is the exciting and forward looking.
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Well, I don't feel accused, just setting the record straight of the discussion we had on the board last week. As share holder I am more or less concerned about the truthfulness of QTN. With recent PR's involving QTN with broadcast rights on the Gay Olympics, the stock should have gone up and NOT down. I have become skeptical about QTN's honesty! Besides working at a teleport I am also an investor and concerned how my money is handled by a public company.
As for Firestone, they might produce programming for QTN in the future. Should it be live most likely they send it to us via Fiber or satellite to insert in the programming schedule. To my knowledge nothing is scheduled yet, but that can change daily.
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By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 04:50 PM EDT
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To All:
To All:
Ok, I will need everyones help here because I will not have time to do this. Frank and Rene have asked me to ask shareholders(myself as well) why we see things different and fill as if we are in the dark. They asked me to pull up all the PRs in the last year and find out what issues we have with the company. For example, The April PR, announcing buyback with an O/S 7.5, then the dramatic increase. The website, etc. If people can start from the jan 1st, untill now with issues, things can be addressed.
RE conference call. Frank and Rene will speak for 30 minutes and open the floor to about 30 minutes of questions.
I was asked if we wanted Rene speaking on the companys behalf. I think that this should be petition and a list given so that we talk with Rene vs Frank.
All issues...things that we want changed or added on the website. Programming, etc...etc
thanks.....
Markjohnson555@hotmail....i will not be responding to people email , i will be posting the info on the board so that we can agree to what should be given to the company and as well a list of questions to be given for the conference.
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Originally posted by firefly:
ms, again, if I am abrupt tonight I apologize. I don't understand the technical issues of delivering feeds and signals,,fiber verses uplinks etc.. Will this be an issue with other carriers? You got me I don't know. I would certainly hope not. I am not privy to the broadcasting agreements between your compaby and Firestone etc.. Seems like these issues are being handled.
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No other issues are known at this time. However, since RCN San Francisco is unable to receive MPEG2 audio & video, one might think that other RCN sites have the same problem. If memory serves right, RCN is in Chapter 11 and might not have the funds to upgrade their systems.
On another note, leasing fiber lines for video is not cheap. The monthly cost from Ft. Worth to San Francisco must be horendus. If they have to do this to every RCN site it will take a big dip in their budget.
RE conference call. Frank and Rene will speak for 30 minutes and open the floor to about 30 minutes of questions.
I was asked if we wanted Rene speaking on the companys behalf. I think that this should be petition and a list given so that we talk with Rene vs Frank.
All issues...things that we want changed or added on the website. Programming, etc...etc
thanks.....
Markjohnson555@hotmail....i will not be responding to people email , i will be posting the info on the board so that we can agree to what should be given to the company and as well a list of questions to be given for the conference.
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Many are not happy regarding the above post and its possible implications...The alias 'dmusephoto' posted a few more times tonight. Here are two from him that caught my attention...
First a message that dmusephoto responds to :
By: illuminati2012
07 Oct 2004, 07:13 PM EDT
Msg. 45198 of 45371
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mcflow...I have no problem whatever with the CC. I have a problem with what demuse posted the CC will be . If it's a rehash it will be perceived as BS, you have to know that's corect. The PPS will be pounded, no doubt about it. I've talked face to face with Frank twice and over the phone a few times. I've met office and field employees for Q and felt strongly of Q's viability. If Frank holds a CC of things of promise, not concrete, QBID will be pumbled and will not recover soon. That is not what I expect from my dealings with the personel at Q, demuse post suggest a collapse of the PPS, that will happen with the agenda he proposes, have no dought. I was told by desert cities time warner that QTN would be available here in Jan., that was confirmed by someone else from this board. I'm greatly under the impression that great things are close for QBID. If the CC is a rehash of what we already know NOW, as suggested by demuse, we are in trouble. That is not what I expect, I hope demuse is wrong.
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By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 07:16 PM EDT
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illum, relax.....i did not say these questions will be the forum.....they just want to know some things...please drop it. i don't know how to tell you otherwise....just forget if your confused..don't worry about it...lol how cow...
ps. cwr said we are on in palm springs now...?
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By: dmusephoto
07 Oct 2004, 07:33 PM EDT
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I'll say it one more time......these questions will have no influence on the CC. They want to how we feel so that things will be changed. for example. new sections on the website: Investor relations info......like is TMM and Q the same thing, O/S and A/S...companu exc and their bios. I'm no longer going to talk abou this. The CC is about are future...goodnight and goodluck.. if you want to sell, fine by me i'm looking to buy another 25million.
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78.23% of all statistics are made up on the spot...The other 35% are made up later on.
Ric
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
Firefly, you're the only one to respond to my comments a few hours ago. Does no one have the balzzzzs to step up and reply. DMUSE wants to know what we think....TELL HIM PEOPLE!!!!!!!! Quite sitting on your laurels people and speak your mind. Are you happy with the pps? If you are, you're an idiot. If you're not happy, SAY SOMETHING!!![This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 08, 2004).]
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Did you guys here about Here! on RCN listings? Apparently they are with RCN now. This could be bigger then we thought for QBID!
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupDetails.php?lineupID=18
RCN OF NEW YORK - MANHATTAN (DIGITAL)Channel 265.
Just trying to be a basher for Here!
The potential to be part of a ground breaking company is unbelievable. The potential to actually be able to own the stock of that company before success, is priceless!
ITS THE MARKET. If it wasn't then why are all those others stocks I mentioned down at the same percentage. Blaming pps on anything else is like saying to a hotel owner in florida the huricanes is not why your sales are down its your late putting out your breakfast. When all other hotels sales are down in Florida.
Ric
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
Ric, it's just been a downhill path. As I stated, don't tell me you're going to air Oct 1st if it won't be til Nov or Dec...just tell me the TRUTH!! I don't believe a responsible company should treat it's investors this way...just be upfront. Do you believe that's too much to ask Ric?
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Are balzzzzs a requirement before one can reply?
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Originally posted by suzainiee:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
[B]Firefly, you're the only one to respond to my comments a few hours ago. Does no one have the balzzzzs to step up and reply. DMUSE wants to know what we think....TELL HIM PEOPLE!!!!!!!! Quite sitting on your laurels people and speak your mind. Are you happy with the pps? If you are, you're an idiot. If you're not happy, SAY SOMETHING!!!Are balzzzzs a requirement before one can reply?
Suzainiee, by no means. It was metaphorical text. PLEASE respond. Thanks,
Terry
Ric
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
Ric, I understand your thinking. It's just painful. To think that Ken Schilling's stock closed higher than Q. Know what I mean?
Terry
Just ribbin' ya!
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
DMUSE wants to know what we think....TELL HIM PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
Just out of curiosity, who is this dmuse guy and why does it matter what he thinks? I've seen his name pop up all over the place but don't know anything about the person other than he make lots of claims of having some sort of inside track to Frank Olsen. If the company has information to share, why are they filtering it through this random internet character? Why not release a PR or put some update on the website? Why is everyone so quick to accuse people of being paid bashers, but when people like dmuse and that marco guy make a series of bold claims and "I have great news but can't tell you" statements, no one wonders if they're a paid pumper (which Frank has been known to use in the past)..?
-R
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
Firefly, you're the only one to respond to my comments a few hours ago. Does no one have the balzzzzs to step up and reply. DMUSE wants to know what we think....TELL HIM PEOPLE!!!!!!!! Quite sitting on your laurels people and speak your mind. Are you happy with the pps? If you are, you're an idiot. If you're not happy, SAY SOMETHING!!![This message has been edited by RNINALVNG (edited October 08, 2004).]
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Originally posted by RNINALVNG:
[B] Does no one have the balzzzzs to step up and reply. DMUSE wants to know what we think....TELL HIM PEOPLE!!!
Didn't want to be on here this weekend but this member is 100% correct! demusephoto reports back to Frank and is extremely close to QTN!! Whenever something is mentioned on the other forums, Frank addresses it in some way.
Even though people didn't respond to you, I seriously hope they sent an email with questions about the company or the PPS. If you didn't, you don't deserve to post here or be a part of this stock!
They need to hear us voice our opinion and will be addressing it on the 28th, what a majority of us are asking.
So yes, stop BSing in here and just send an email to him. demusephoto is not "just" another poster. Trust me!
I sent mine within the hour after he asked us to. Email me to see what I said.
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
demusephoto reports back to Frank and is extremely close to QTN!!
Oh reeeallly..?? What is the nature of this relationship? Is he being paid for his services? Why does Frank bother hiring these 'major' PR firms if he's just going to send some kid into some online forum to spread his news for him? How do you know this guy can be trusted? Since when do broadcasting television networks use random internet characters to do their survey and reporting work for them?
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I seriously hope they sent an email with questions about the company or the PPS. If you didn't, you don't deserve to post here or be a part of this stock!
HUH??? People who don't buy into this guy's bs don't deserve to post here or be a part of this stock? What have you been smoking???
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They need to hear us voice our opinion and will be addressing it on the 28th, what a majority of us are asking.
Well since they have a habit of using these message forum users to transfer information back and forth, I'm sure they've heard all they need to. The 100,000 phone inquiries couldn't have hurt either...........
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So yes, stop BSing in here and just send an email to him. demusephoto is not "just" another poster. Trust me!
Oh great, we can trust you! And I thought you were just another internet BSer... I feel better already!
-R
He is not a memeber of this board that i am aware of.
I have sent my e-mail as well.
here is the e-mail address to send your concerns to.
Markjohnson555@hotmail dot com
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
[b] Didn't want to be on here this weekend but this member is 100% correct! demusephoto reports back to Frank and is extremely close to QTN!! Whenever something is mentioned on the other forums, Frank addresses it in some way.Even though people didn't respond to you, I seriously hope they sent an email with questions about the company or the PPS. If you didn't, you don't deserve to post here or be a part of this stock!
They need to hear us voice our opinion and will be addressing it on the 28th, what a majority of us are asking.
So yes, stop BSing in here and just send an email to him. demusephoto is not "just" another poster. Trust me!
I sent mine within the hour after he asked us to. Email me to see what I said.
I have to agree abit with Robin on this one.
do you know him personally? Im not trying to cause problems, but it does seem odd that Frank would go this route and allow it to be this open. I dont doubt that he speaks with Frank but i have to wonder at this type of poster. he falls into the description posted earlier as a pumper.
I am not saying that we shouldnt be able to send questions. I would rather the questions be asked without giving them notice. they now have time to prepair great answers that are decieving.
and you should know better then to use the TRUST ME line. that always throws up a red flag.
all said I am not trying to bash anyone but everyone has the right to post in a public forum as long as the follow the forum rules.
You cant take ownership of the forum.
Now i hope for all our sakes that we get a big PR in this comming week as we are slowly sinking back. and we all need some forward movement here.
Rod
Hope everyone has a great weekend!..C'mon Q!!!
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Yes, fantastic. What it basically says is don't listen to anyone but the cheerleaders. Keep up the good work tiger.-R
Ummm, no. What it basically says is that people are, in fact, paid to bash stocks.
Keep up the good work tweety. I hear you're gettin' close to winning that Scranton vacation. LOL
Beware of the Basher!
Investopedia Staff (Investopedia.com)
Whether you are fairly new to online investing or a seasoned veteran, you've probably seen the message boards and chat rooms that focus on stocks. Many of these boards make tabloids look tame, churning out rumor after rumor 24 hours a day. Some of the more popular boards are getting upwards of 10,000 posts daily. Here we look at how the practice of bashing takes place on these boards, and how you can handle bashers when you encounter them.
The Advent of the Internet
No technology has changed the financial industry more than the Internet, which has allowed individual investors from every corner of the globe to meet and talk about the prospects and risks of companies. The free flow of information has changed the very way we invest, but this mass communication does not come without a price. The anonymity of the Internet has allowed unscrupulous people to distort and control artificially the price of a stock--these people are the bashers.
What Is a Basher?
A basher is a person who lurks in the shadows of investment chat rooms spreading calculated, and almost always unfounded, confidence-shaking news about a stock. The basher's purpose is to instigate a sell off that will in turn drive the stock price down, either for his or her own benefit or that of his or her employer.
This practice may seem fairly simple, but there is a science behind it. Supposedly, reputable companies and investment firms sometimes hire bashers to help make the conditions for a takeover more favorable. You see, when one company wants to buy another, stock price is king. If the stock of a multi-billion dollar target company changes even by one dollar, the difference in the price of the takeover can be millions of dollars. A basher who successfully pushes down the price of a stock may receive a very lucrative compensation.
How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock.
Here are some basher tactics that online chatters should be aware of:
Bashers lie! Bashers have no ethical code that prevents them from lying. They will lie blatantly and often.
Bashers usually bash stocks that are more volatile Bashers usually only go after stocks that could show a large increase or decrease in price. There's a low probability that a basher would ever be able to influence a company with a huge float like General Electric, for example.
Bashers will use any news Bashers will not favor recent news over old news, or vice versa. They'll take information out of context if it will help depress a stock.
Bashers exploit investors' lack of knowledge Most bashers rely on the notion that most investors don't check their facts and, as such, will use false information to sway people.
Bashers post frequently Bashers are a persistent bunch. Through the use of repetition, they attempt to wear down those on the long side of stocks.
Bashers can travel in packs It is common for a group of bashers to enter a chat room quietly and carefully and feed off each other's posts to dominate subtly the sentiment of the room.
Who Are Bashers' Prey?
As you can probably gather from the above list of tactics, bashers do not target well-informed investors but those who are easily persuaded. Bashers know that "green" or rookie investors are inherently wary of the market and oversensitive to bad news.
Anyone in a chat room who claims to be your friend and have your best interests in mind is likely a basher--after all, why would anyone give good advice for free in a chat room ? It's doubtful that experts such as Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch frequent these rooms. (Read more on Peter Lynch here.)
Levels of Bashers' Skills
The most effective bashers have strategies that are very well thought out. They often develop a character who draws attention and builds trust from others on the chat board. Good bashers try to appear sophisticated: they never use profanity because that would cause people to ignore them. Quite often, these bashers will respond condescendingly to their questioners for asking such "stupid" questions.
The purpose is to get a reaction from other posters: the more reaction, the more the room will be disrupted. To throw yet another wrench into the works, bashers often send in another person to side with the longs of a stock. Again, the idea behind this is to distract people, and to spread rumors and confusion throughout the room.
Not all bashers display such proficiency and dedication. Like any profession or sport, the bashing world has participants at different skill levels. It helps to know how the experts operate differently from the novices, so here is a list of the skills displayed in the different "leagues" (to use a baseball analogy) of bashers:
Major League The major league bashers are excellent at what they do. The better the bashers are at their game, the tougher they are to spot. They are online constantly, always attacking and attempting to make positive postings look unreasonable. Those in the major leagues are masters at manipulation, knowing how to convince other chatters that a particular stock should be sold immediately.
AAA These bashers are able to twist the meanings of words, phrases, quotes, and press releases quite compellingly; however, they do not have the same influence over others as those in the major leagues.
AA - These bashers are still learning the subtleties of the art of appearing like a trustworthy, sophisticated fellow investor. For example, a AA basher may react overzealously to comments that question his or her perpetually bearish attitude.
Bat Boy Although this level of basher knows the profession and has known some major leaguers, he or she is utterly useless in the ways of bashing. The bat boy bashers make themselves obvious, using profanity, name calling and irrational arguments. These bashers are easily identified.
How to Handle Bashers
There are basically two ways in which chatters can handle bashers. Firstly, you should simply ignore them because they want and feed off attention. If they aren't getting any, they'll likely slink away and attempt to prey on more receptive victims. But sometimes the tenacious basher invading a good chat room needs to be confronted. Here are some tips that, if you must confront a basher, will likely help:
Do your due diligence. The phrase, "knowledge is power" is no more true than in this instance. Try to post a number of well-researched messages that confound the premise of a basher's arguments.
Do not engage bashers directly, but instead post general and open-ended messages disputing bashers' posts.
Remind those in the chat room that the mere fact that something is in writing does not make it the truth.
Conclusion
Bashing is always happening, so it's important for you to realize there are people out there who make a good living out of manipulating investors. Participating in a chat forum can be both enjoyable and insightful, but always remember to look at each message with the knowledge that its sender may not be sincere.
Cheers,
Investopedia Staff
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FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE SCHEDULING A 1-HR PHONE CONFERENCE. 20-30 MINUTES WILL BE OF THEM TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE "DOING" AND HOW "Q IS DEFINITELY ON THE MOVE".
SECONDLY, THE BALANCE OF REMAINING PHONE CALLS WILL BE SCREENED AND NOT TAKEN AT RANDOM AND WILL PROBABLY BE ALREADY HAND PICKED BY FRANK HIMSELF TO MAKE SURE HE'S NOT SHOWN IN A BAD LIGHT OR PUT HIM IN A POSITION TO ANSWER "REAL" QUESTIONS. THIS IS COMMONLY DONE VIA THE RADIO DJ'S WHEN THE "LIVE" CALLS YOU HEAR ARE RECORDED AND SCREENED AND/OR EMPLOYEE'S THAT ARE WORKING IN THE STATION AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE DJ SITTING IN THE BOOTH WITH THEM MAKING IT LOOK LIKE THEY GET "OUTSIDE" CALLERS.
FRANK OLSEN HAS ESTABLISHED HIMSELF TO BE A FLAMBOYANT LIAR. HABITUAL AT THAT. HIS ACTIONS, HIS PR AND HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ARE JUST THAT; LIES ON TOP OF LIES.
FRANK OLSEN IS NOT GOING TO FEED YOU ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE LIES HE HAS PREPARED AND TO CONTINUE WITH THE EXISTING LIES HE HAS ALREADY GIVEN TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
AVERAGE CALL. 2-3 MINUTES FOR THE CALLER TO ASK A QUESTION. 3-5 MINUTES TO RESPOND PER CALL. IN A UN-CONTROLLED ENVIORNMENT WHICH TOTALS ABOUT 25-30 MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF 5 CALLS. AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A UNCONTROLLED ENVIORNMENT.
SINCE FRANK OLSEN WILL HAVE THIS THING SCREENED AND PREPARED, EXPECT NO MORE THAN 10 AND PROBABLY 5 TO 7 PRE-SCREENED PREPARED CALLS.
THEN AFTER THIS, WE WILL SEE A PR ABOUT HOW THE PHONE CONFERENCE WAS A HUGE SUCCESS, THE THOUSANDS OF CALLS THAT COULD NOT GET THROUGH SHOWING THE HUGE INTERESTED IN QBID.
97 BOTTLE OF BEER ON THE WALL....
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Originally posted by penny-trader:
I am not saying that we shouldnt be able to send questions. I would rather the questions be asked without giving them notice. they now have time to prepair great answers that are decieving.
Good point... plus if you have a question for QTN, just call them. It appears as though Frank and Co. have been pretty open about answering phone calls. Why bother with this unknown middleman?
-R
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
Ummm, no. What it basically says is that people are, in fact, paid to bash stocks.
Oddly enough, that article does not exist on investopedia's website. Yes they keep an archive of articles, but I can't seem to find it. Care to share a link? I still think the idea that someone sits around counting replies to someone's posts in order to calculate another guy's paycheck is a ridiculous myth.
The funny thing is that a few years ago, another guy on another forum wrote a fake "I admit it, I'm a paid basher" letter. Regardless of the fact that it was an obvious hoax, everyone believed it.. it's a hilarious story that just goes to show how gullible people are.
http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html
-R
Watch the volume rise these next few weeks.! Enjoy. Look at the big picture, don't let these other fools close your mind!
no penny that post was not for you. It was general.
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Oddly enough, that article does not exist on investopedia's website. Yes they keep an archive of articles, but I can't seem to find it. Care to share a link? I still think the idea that someone sits around counting replies to someone's posts in order to calculate another guy's paycheck is a ridiculous myth.The funny thing is that a few years ago, another guy on another forum wrote a fake "I admit it, I'm a paid basher" letter. Regardless of the fact that it was an obvious hoax, everyone believed it.. it's a hilarious story that just goes to show how gullible people are.
http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html-R
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Oddly enough, that article does not exist on investopedia's website. Yes they keep an archive of articles, but I can't seem to find it. Care to share a link? I still think the idea that someone sits around counting replies to someone's posts in order to calculate another guy's paycheck is a ridiculous myth.The funny thing is that a few years ago, another guy on another forum wrote a fake "I admit it, I'm a paid basher" letter. Regardless of the fact that it was an obvious hoax, everyone believed it.. it's a hilarious story that just goes to show how gullible people are.
http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html-R
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Another thing to think about is the fact that this Conference Call will bring in new investors. Do you think they'll talk about negative things? No. They will talk about progress and future plans. The new investors will want to jump in.Watch the volume rise these next few weeks.! Enjoy. Look at the big picture, don't let these other fools close your mind!
no penny that post was not for you. It was general.
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
this conference call is a bad idea. None of the serious questions that most of the people on here have will be answered.
Oh you mean why the website isn't updated??
Everyone has a right to their own opinion but to say the conference call is a bad idea just makes you look "unintelligent"
EVERY COMPANY HAS CONFERENCE CALLS. GEEZ. I remember calling in a few CC's myself before investing in the company, just to see where they stand, what their objectives were, and what their doing about it.
Saying its a bad idea is decieving other peoples views.
Would you rather be in the dark?
It's the best idea but I'm terrified they'll cancel it. Delay is no problem.
I voted for Rene to speak. No offense to Frank but I think Rene would be a better speaker.
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Originally posted by firefly:
Big, you have mail.
Notice I started my response with "In my opinion" I think you should probably go back and re-read what I said. Unintelligent is probably as far away as possible in regards to my response. I realize that most companies have CC's. Usually, they are a good thing, but like I said above, in Q's case it probably will not be. Ambiguity is all that will come out of it.
"Being in the dark?" LOL, we already are. Whether you love Q or hate it, Frank so far to date has very poorly handled this company. I have said it before and I'll say it again, the idea behind Q is a billion dollar idea. Right now is the right time, and the right place. Frank Olson however, is the wrong person. That man has single handedly ruined the PPS. Not bashers, MM's, shorters, or whatever else someone wants to conjure up. Frank Olson, plain and simple. The best thing that could ever happen to Q is if Frank stepped down and was replaced by anybody else. That would give Q the clean slate they need to really succeed.
I do agree with you that Rene would handle the CC much better, however, the CEO should handle it. But, anyone who has ever spoken to Frank knows why that is a bad idea. Like I said above though, its a catch 22, Frank not handling the call is probably equally as bad.
1Big- You and I have been on this board a long time. You should know by now that if you want to refute something someone says, use facts and DD. In the past, you have always done that very well, and I commend you for that. Thats why I'm surprised that you would reply to me by using a blanket statement and not backing it up at all. To me, thats seems "unintelligent".
Since we don't have the hotline, we hear nothing. I could care less about the website updating.
I want to know more serious issues like when will they be a reporting company. That to me is the most important thing to invest in a company long term.
The CC will be good for Q. Obviously nothing else is working. 5 PR's in a row didn't even help.
We'll see, we'll all see soon.
1) A/S
2) O/S
3) float
4) is there restricted shares
5) Is there any other signed contract (don't have to give out info that other party not wanting released) but is there something signed with any other company.
6)programming line-up and why it's not on web page.
7) Address rumor of public and private companies. I pretty much know its not true but want to here it from Frank.
8) Since we are not a reporting company what is the finanial situation of Q.
Well can dream anyway can't I.
Ric
[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited October 09, 2004).]
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Originally posted by Just Looking:
I love how you don't challenge my statement, instead you change the subject. Fly away, little bird. LOL
No, I challenged whether or not that article actually exists on investopedia's website, then brought up a story that points out how lots of people believe there are paid bashers but can't provide any evidence. Oh yeah, the companies are really secretive so we can't tell who's doing it.. that's convenient. I shot a note to the people at investopedia to get more information on their article. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true. Heck, if you click the link at the beginning of that page you posted, it takes you to some guy's site where he sells you his plan for how to become a millionaire in a matter of a few years by using his investing technique that will get you blacklisted from Wall Street.. oo oo sign me up!
-R
1 other quick note and I need to take a break from here:
For years I've been following or doing DD on other "start-up" companies and almost all of them had a proposed date which was never met. Can you think of a company that either, gives investors their proposed dates and meets them all OR never tells their investors about any proposed dates.
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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Another thing to think about is the fact that this Conference Call will bring in new investors. Do you think they'll talk about negative things? No. They will talk about progress and future plans. The new investors will want to jump in.Watch the volume rise these next few weeks.! Enjoy. Look at the big picture, don't let these other fools close your mind!
no penny that post was not for you. It was general.
I wish I can draw out charts for you but we'll have to do with text only.
2004
We are in an "Accumulation within a rounding bottom"
The formation of a rounding bottom is usually an extended process. The decline in price (.028 - .0070) gradually decelarates until it merges into a section at the bottom which is almost flat (.0038-.0060) which then merges into a gradually accelerating rise. Because the initial phase of the price rise is so slow, the complete outline of the rounding bottom does not become apparent until an uptrend has been established.. If you can predict an accumulation pattern which could become a rounding bottom, you can be more then confident that the price will develop an uptrend.
2002,2003
It was in an "Accumulation within a trading range"
When a trading range forms, there is uncertainty about whether the price breakout will be to the upside or the downside. If well informed, long term investors are buying within the trading range (.0001 - .0005), the eventual breakout will probably be to the upside (.0001 - .028). But you should not buy the stock until the breakout occurs, because the upside breakout is not a certainty, and the length of the trading range can't be determined in advance.
They are accumulating shares folks and it should take a while because there is a huge float. But one thing is certain: The more shares they accumulate, the fewer are available to others and the available supply shrinks relative to demand. As this imbalance increases the upward pressure grows until the price begins to move higher.
Q documentary on the road! One of team members dissapeared. the rest is afraid of him as being a victim of anti gay violence!
Mr. Tores continues to tape the events!