It's obvious that they just choose to be that way, bdgee!
(just kidding...)
Posted by bdgee on :
Yep.
Ain't no doubt iffin I wus a chick fruitfly and some body mixed up my genes, I'd chuze to fight lak a guy fruitfly duz. (o' course, I, being all 150% pure and absulut all male, would naturally choose to be lak a guy anythin afore a femal un. It's in ma genes, so ta speak, ya know.)
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
There goes another 3-4 million dollars, so many of these great research studies many funded with our tax money.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: There goes another 3-4 million dollars, so many of these great research studies many funded with our tax money.
Lmao this doesnt come from our tax dollars... its harvard.. maybe you shoulda read before commenting...
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Your right much better spent money, but if you will read my statement i did not say all these great research studies were done with tax dollars, my point is that it was another great study. Even though "some" of these studies are done at private schools does not mean that they are done always with private money.
Posted by bdgee on :
MOST of the funding for research at Harvard comes via Federal monies.
Indeed, for most of the best known Universities, the majority of research funds are from federal sources.
However, when you find someone declaring such research as "wasting" money, whatever the source, it almost always is due to ignorance and a hopelessly inadequate background in the sciences.
The demonstration that a gene or genes control the activities and attitutdes of friutflies shows that the same factors are there in humans and learning to understnad that, along with learning which genes are involved, provided enormous benifit toward the treatment of abnormalities in human beings, if nothing else.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
So many of these studies end up basically in the can, and you do not need your science degree to know that, some studies help but they need to be more selective in these studies instead of just using money because its their, but then again if they don't use it they will lose it somewhere the system needs to change.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
I'll take wasted research dollars over wasted war dollars any time.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Agreed, but we have both.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Most research has to be carried out before one can determine its usefulness.
(And usually people don't die for nothing in the research field.)
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Sorry can't go there, like saying we have to enter a war to really know if it is bad.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Well that's Bush's philosophy, I think.
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: So many of these studies end up basically in the can, and you do not need your science degree to know that, some studies help but they need to be more selective in these studies instead of just using money because its their, but then again if they don't use it they will lose it somewhere the system needs to change.
Yes, you do need a science education to know it they are worthwhile.....and time.
Any idiot can complain and use simple minded arguments to belittle just about anything, just as they once did the flying machine and the telephone.
Almost all of the actual scientific research done for NASA via the space program (I am not talking about guiding a rocket to the moon and back or even making it possible for a human to ride in it. That is engineering, not science.) recieved the sort of degrading attacks you place on research into fruitfly genetics, but, so far as I can find, not a single one of them failed to eventually be the root of some later wonderous devise or discovery that is hailed by mankind. (Much the same can be said for all of the "wasted" research money that went into developing the BOMB.)
Posted by andrew on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Some of you hateful bogoted gay bashing super christians need to read this carefully and THINK!
Name calling again...aayy Bdgee.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Bdgee, You sure can try and persuade people with your name calling, you have made a point of pretty much calling everyone names on this board at one time or another to try and prove your point, you are like the kid at the school yard that throws a rock at some kid then gets knocked on his rear end, then goes home to tell his mom that someone hit me for no reason, you constantly complain that people on this board call you names for no reason, you spend more time than anyone calling others names. No bdgee you have not convinced me that these people are using these funds in great research, a few might prove to amount to something but most don't and need to be monitored better so these funds are not wasted just because the money is there. People can make the same point on just about any subject including the war, we won WW1 and WW2. Oh yes bdgee i know it is not officially a war in Iraq, as you pointed out already, but for our troops it is and i will continue to use that statement so don't worry about correcting me. And you will outlast trying to make your point, because i won't spend my whole day argueing with you and name calling.
Posted by Highway on :
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Are you saying gay people are like fruit flies?
"They'll(males) court the dead, headless female fly, and try to copulate with her sometimes."
Guess there were some straight ones?... biased
Some of you people are crazy how you try and find crap like this and think you solved the universe.
Posted by Highway on :
oh, I'm just dying to know, did they have fruit fly police, fruit fly judges? If a fruit fly broke the law did they have to face the fruit fly supreme court?
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by andrew:
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Some of you hateful bogoted gay bashing super christians need to read this carefully and THINK!
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Bdgee, You sure can try and persuade people with your name calling, you have made a point of pretty much calling everyone names on this board at one time or another to try and prove your point, you are like the kid at the school yard that throws a rock at some kid then gets knocked on his rear end, then goes home to tell his mom that someone hit me for no reason, you constantly complain that people on this board call you names for no reason, you spend more time than anyone calling others names. No bdgee you have not convinced me that these people are using these funds in great research, a few might prove to amount to something but most don't and need to be monitored better so these funds are not wasted just because the money is there. People can make the same point on just about any subject including the war, we won WW1 and WW2. Oh yes bdgee i know it is not officially a war in Iraq, as you pointed out already, but for our troops it is and i will continue to use that statement so don't worry about correcting me. And you will outlast trying to make your point, because i won't spend my whole day argueing with you and name calling.
In case the idea is just too difficult for you to handle, you started the name calling with your backward red-neck logic about scientific research.
Name calling? Exactly what are you doing to the researchers you so eagerly insult by declaring their work to be fit only for the can?
You need not worry. I don't intend to try to convince you of anything, as it is clear you don't have the background to understand the research nor the good manners and judgement not to condemn what is beyond your grasp.
I have spent a lifetime doing research and I personally resent your attacks on science and research.
You belittle people with educaation you don't have and call them and their work names and you want that excused so you can continue to insult thier (and my) work.
Is it alright to enguage in name calling because you haven't the education to properly evaluate the work of others?
You certainly seem to advocate that excuse for logic..
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by Highway: oh, I'm just dying to know, did they have fruit fly police, fruit fly judges? If a fruit fly broke the law did they have to face the fruit fly supreme court?
Behavior and personality traits are primarilly a result of genetic influence.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Bdgee,
Knock off the name calling. You know exactly what i mean. It makes no difference what field is being talked about on this board, you head for the same name calling and state how much of a expert you are in that field to rationalize your name calling.(politics,religion, war, science, business,etc) No bdgee i am not impressed how much of an expert you are, or how much education you have, i have been around to long and in many fields to really buy what you say. You sidestep issues and use the name calling to cover. I am really surprised that allstocks has not put a stop to your name calling. I do not come on this side that often anymore, but from time to time i like to read and sometimes interact with discussions. I try and keep and open mind especially as i get older, because it is to easy to close it up and think because of my age i know everything, i like hearing the younger people and there side of what they see. I sure hope i have not cut off other posters and there opinions or anyway try to make them feel lower in any way. I tend to get off more on our troops and their issues maybe more than i should but i really try to do my best to support them in any way i can. The real truth bdgee is that i am not impressed with peoples credentials at this part of my life whether it be money or accomplishments, i am impressed with how people are as human beings and also there opinions.
Posted by bdgee on :
You stop the name calling and insults to everything and anyone that you don't understand!
Do not attack me again.
Had you not attacked me, I would not have needed to responded to your bigoted nonsense and you wouldn't have something that you can't understand to declare to be name calling.
I DID NOT, AT ANY POINT, CALL YOU ANY NAME, so stop claiming I did!!!!!!
You claim to have experiences that your lack of understanding belies.
You make claims of open opinion and wide experience, when you are all insult and brag.....all hat and no cattle.
Unlike you, I do not announce you have no ritht to a voice as you attempt to do to me.
If you don't like my opinions, then counter them with facts rather than diatribes against me (by name) full of insults, hate, name calling, and lies.
I say again:
I DID NOT, AT ANY POINT, CALL YOU ANY NAME, so stop claiming I did!!!!!!
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
we need a chatroom so we can talk on mics to eachother...that would get pretty intense!
Posted by Upside on :
I'm waiting for the technology that somehow allows fists to be thrown over the net. Now that will be fun to watch.
Posted by bdgee on :
snicker
And think about getting into a real pi$$ fight, Up!
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Bdgee,
Maybe you can enlighten us all into what you consider name calling. Here are a few of your statements bdgee, Any idiot can complain and use simple minded arguments to belittle just about anything, just as they once did
Originally posted by bdgee: Some of you hateful bogoted gay bashing super christians need to read this carefully and THINK!
bdgee Member
posted November 19, 2006 22:15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure you have and didn't saee any insults.
You are so wrapped in your ignorance of manners you don't bother.
------------------------------------------------ No, andy, I'm no work of art.
Of course you like to insult anyone that doesn't buy the load of BS you did with some sort of demeaning designation or label you think excuses your biases.
However, your religious limitation does not empower you to issue insults by some god given right, whatever the preacher said. ------------------------------------------------- No, i am not the one that keeps bringing up religion.
AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT THE ONE THAT KEEPS MAKING UNDERHANDED AND INSULTING ASIDES ABOUT ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DON'T GET FILLED WITH AT SUNDAY SCHOOL!
You issue hate toward anyone that isn't mouthing propaganda to demonstrate that they are not a far rightwing radical evangelical extremist.
Your politics are nothing but religious bigotry and your generosity extends exactly that far.
If you want to not be pointed out for your insults and biased asides, then simply stop doing them.
And stop blaming all your hateful attitudes on me.
I don't care what you do, generally, but when you constantly make a habit of naming me as your reason for insulting and belittling things and people, I understand the insult and I quite naturally respond to them.
It's your option. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I DID NOT, AT ANY POINT, CALL YOU ANY NAME
No bdgee you did not call me anymore names than you have of other people on this board. For a person that hates the republican party so much and states that they waste so much money on stupid projects it appears that your fruit fly sex project was funded during their reign in office, but that makes it okay since you are involved. As i said before many of these projects are a waste of taxpayers money, even though they might be important to the one's that do them. How important do you think this project is in the scheme of scientific discoveries and money that should be spent, I could ask one of our relatives who is one of the foremost nuclear scientists, no i think not. No upside he would not want that technology, or say the things he says to people in person. If you have anymore trouble understanding what name calling is maybe some one else can explain it better to you, if you would like i can post more of your quotes that reference it but it would probably be 100 pages long.
Posted by bdgee on :
Enough of your trash taling mame calling insults.
I quote you exactly!!!!
"No bdgee you did not call me anymore names"
That says it all, so stop your attacks.
I will correct your misrepresentation by pointing out that I did not call you any name, ever, anywhere and cerainly not "anymore". (A courtesy and respect you have not provided me.)
You take from context in order to make false and derogatory implications and don't even have the decency to admit to it, then expect that bit of illogical cheating to be considered realistic and fair.
Pay enough attention to common courtesy to
stop your incessant crude hateful attacks NOW!!!!
Or are you just another of the supposedly "loving and generous" far rIght wing radical "christian" bigots that come here from time to time in a intentional assault designed to dictate religious restrictions on free speach and the Constitution?
Your generousity and fairness not only don't show, but your total lack of them does.
Stop this attack!!!!! Posted by andrew on :
I know you are but what am I? Grow up!
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Again Bdgee read, "No bdgee you did not call me anymore names than you have of other people on this board". Don't just pick out what you like to believe, then read the rest.
Posted by bdgee on :
You can't seem to admit you are insulting and intentionally trying to cause trouble,
BOTH OF YOU'
Go find some rightwing extremist religious site so you can commiserate amongst your own kind and stop promoting hatred and discord as an excuse for following jesus.
Posted by andrew on :
lol......Bdgee, you are the one all bent out of shape. Who have I insulted and how am I causing trouble? Like I have always said....you are alright with me.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
You can't seem to admit you are insulting and intentionally trying to cause trouble,
BOTH OF YOU'
Go find some rightwing extremist religious site so you can commiserate amongst your own kind and stop promoting hatred and discord as an excuse for following jesus. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Again Bdgee read, "No bdgee you did not call me anymore names than you have of other people on this board". Don't just pick out what you like to believe, then read the rest.
Posted by bdgee on :
I read, but you seem unable to.....or at least the information carried in the English language escapes your grasp.
Maybe you need to consider getting some tutoring?
Understanding requires both effort of comprehension and the ability to overcome prejudice and you are missing at least one of them......it looks like both, I am sorry to report.
Enough of your trash mouth bashing and insults. please.
You aren't exactly acting like a proper christian....or an improper one, just a jerk with way more ego than manners.
You too, andy.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
read, you seem unable to. maybe you need to consider getting some tutoring?
Enough of your trash mouth bashing and insults. please.
You aren't exactly acting like a proper christian....or an improper one, just a jerk with way more ego than manners.
You too, andy. _________________________________________________
You really know how to even tick off posters that seem to like you and i am not talking about me. How do you go from fruit flies sex, budgeting projects and name calling, to try and insult people and some of their religious beliefs, have you again lost track of the discussion probably not the right word to use.
No bdgee you did not call me anymore names than you have of other people on this board. For a person that hates the republican party so much and states that they waste so much money on stupid projects it appears that your fruit fly sex project was funded during their reign in office, but that makes it okay since you are involved. As i said before many of these projects are a waste of taxpayers money, even though they might be important to the one's that do them. How important do you think this project is in the scheme of scientific discoveries and money that should be spent, I could ask one of our relatives who is one of the foremost nuclear scientists, no i think not. No upside he would not want that technology, or say the things he says to people in person. If you have anymore trouble understanding what name calling is maybe some one else can explain it better to you, if you would like i can post more of your quotes that reference it but it would probably be 100 pages long.
Posted by Upside on :
quote:No upside he would not want that technology
Well, for my part I was simply trying to inject a bit of humor into a somewhat ridiculous discussion, if you can call it that. I guess that's why the internet is such a wonderful thing, say whatever you want, be whoever you want to be, etc. What I don't understand though is how people can get so riled up on a chat board. Actually beyond riled up, it seems to border on hatred. Hell, this morning I was called a "goddamn moron" by someone, I thought it was hilarious and I know he's going to be back soon with some new Upside slams. I look forward to them.
Posted by bdgee on :
I can see that you are so limited in intellectual scope that you are capable of believing that I started this thread out of interest in sex or in bugs, but let me assure you that you are 100% out of phase with reality, just as you are with your diatribes to nmake me the devil of your cause.
As you have made it more than clear, your ability to extrapolate from a premis to a greater scope is restricted and, indeed, mimniscule.
I have esentially no interest in fruitflies or their sexual practices. It isn't them or their habits or character that I was considering. And it sure as the devil isn't your hateful bigotry and refusal to allow the intellectual development that, absent your prejudised restrictions, is within the range of the normal thinking human being. (Well, maybe it does seem to have some implications there.)
I DID NOT, AT ANY TIME OR PLACE, CALL YOU ANY NAME, nor did I anyone else, so stop claiming I did!!!!!!
(Your inability to deal with facts seems to make you imagine that any reference to them is name calling.)
Get yourself some other victim and get off your bigoted religious far right wing narrow minded kick. Go back to your controlers and explain you need a different assignment.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Main Entry: name-call·ing Pronunciation: 'nAm-"ko-li[ng] Function: noun : the use of offensive names especially to win an argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or project) without objective consideration of the facts _________________________________________________
Sometimes you are actually humorous.
Posted by bdgee on :
Yes, a description of the area of your expertise.
And, I want to provide the complement: Since the days here of Art, you are the best of them all, a truely world class name caller with absolutely no reason or remorse.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Originally posted by bdgee: Some of you hateful bogoted gay bashing super christians need to read this carefully and THINK!
bdgee Member
posted November 19, 2006 22:15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure you have and didn't saee any insults.
You are so wrapped in your ignorance of manners you don't bother.
------------------------------------------------ No, andy, I'm no work of art.
Of course you like to insult anyone that doesn't buy the load of BS you did with some sort of demeaning designation or label you think excuses your biases.
However, your religious limitation does not empower you to issue insults by some god given right, whatever the preacher said. ------------------------------------------------- No, i am not the one that keeps bringing up religion.
AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT THE ONE THAT KEEPS MAKING UNDERHANDED AND INSULTING ASIDES ABOUT ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DON'T GET FILLED WITH AT SUNDAY SCHOOL!
You issue hate toward anyone that isn't mouthing propaganda to demonstrate that they are not a far rightwing radical evangelical extremist.
Your politics are nothing but religious bigotry and your generosity extends exactly that far.
If you want to not be pointed out for your insults and biased asides, then simply stop doing them.
And stop blaming all your hateful attitudes on me.
I don't care what you do, generally, but when you constantly make a habit of naming me as your reason for insulting and belittling things and people, I understand the insult and I quite naturally respond to them.
It's your option. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I DID NOT, AT ANY POINT, CALL YOU ANY NAME Get yourself some other victim and get off your bigoted religious far right wing narrow minded kick. Go back to your controlers and explain you need a different assignment. ------------------------------------------------- Main Entry: name-call·ing Pronunciation: 'nAm-"ko-li[ng] Function: noun : the use of offensive names especially to win an argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or project) without objective consideration of the facts
read, but you seem unable to.....or at least the information carried in the English language escapes your grasp.
Maybe you need to consider getting some tutoring?
Understanding requires both effort of comprehension and the ability to overcome prejudice and you are missing at least one of them......it looks like both, I am sorry to report.
Enough of your trash mouth bashing and insults. please.
You aren't exactly acting like a proper christian....or an improper one, just a jerk with way more ego than manners.
You too, andy.
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Seems like you have to keep getting reminded about what you say.
Posted by bdgee on :
You are indeed single minded, and I give you that. Of course, note that being single minded is the same as having a one track mind.
Now to address only one of what you want to call "name calling" you have cited my statement,
"Some of you hateful bogoted gay bashing super christians need to read this carefully and THINK!"
If you are so biased and simple minded as to construe that to be name calling, I offer two points:
1). Nothing therein refers to you specifically or to anyone, except by activities and character flaws, which means, if you feel offended, you (and not me) are acknowledging that you are either hateful, bogoted, gay bashing, an over the edge excessive christian, or some combination thereof.
2). If you do feel yourself to be the object of that inspecific statement, then I am bound to accept your assessment of your own character and that you do indeed need to read the statement carefully and think. It is up to you, not me, as it is you that is assigning character. Either way, I am not involved. It is you that assumes guilt.
Again, as I have pointed out before,
I will correct your misrepresentation by pointing out that I did not call you any name or attack you with insult, ever, anywhere. (A courtesy and respect you have not provided me.)
I ask again, with courtesy and respect, please stop your incessant crude hateful attacks.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
I am sure some posters wonder why i have went on with bdgee the last few days. No i usually do not get involved in this type of thing . The major problem with what bdgee continually does is not related to discussion. I think most people think it is harmless, but it is not, read through these posts carefully on this thread and see what is there, this is only a chat board on the Internet which is a very powerful place. His comments are directed at individuals but centered around groups, it just seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. If someone on the board at allstocks wants me to be more specific please contact me.
Posted by bdgee on :
Yes you do.
And I'll explain to them, quite simply.
You are a far right wing christian extremist attempting to disallow others from having either an opinion or a voice and you are eager to destroy the Constitutional foundations of our nation in favor of installing, in place of the Constitution, a far rightwing dictatorial fascist oppressive religious order.
I am a strict Constitutionalist, one hundred percent in agreement with the Constitutional disallowment of religion in Government or the Government in religion, thus, you attack.
You have carried on your hateful campaign way too long and far too dishonestly. It is well past time you stopped the harrasssment.
I ask again, with courtesy and respect, please stop your incessant crude hateful attacks. Posted by jordanreed on :
i didnt give it much thought...
i just like the entertainment...
Posted by jordanreed on :
besides, I was out working all day...
someone has to make some money around here.
Posted by Highway on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee:
quote:Originally posted by Highway: oh, I'm just dying to know, did they have fruit fly police, fruit fly judges? If a fruit fly broke the law did they have to face the fruit fly supreme court?
Behavior and personality traits are primarilly a result of genetic influence.
result of genetic influence my ass. I looked up your furit fly... the carp I saw said a banana has 50% the DNA humans have, they said your fruit fly is only 60%(probably because they can actualy move)LOL
Oh yeah, there just like us. Hell, they'll be shorting stocks before too long... locking up the entire fruit market all for themselfs, and take over all the bananas while their at it!
Iron and zinc are in humans, are there funny rocks too?
Posted by bdgee on :
Yep, you're right, Highway, a bananna and us have many of the same genes, as is also the case with sea urchins and earthworms.
And where they have the same genes as we do, a variation in that gene effects them in a way quite analgous to the way that same variation does us,
And the effect on behavior is quite similar too.
Locate the genes that cause boys to like girls and disturb them and you have completely altered the way that person views sex and gender.
Posted by Upside on :
Have those genes been located?
Posted by bdgee on :
Not that I know of, but I think a lot of them are where ever mark Foley is......
Posted by Upside on :