Off topic, but interesting video for anyone that's interested. It's long... so break it up... it got me hooked...I have to watch it a second time...
Posted by bdgee on :
AMAZING!
I don't believe all of it.
I can't dismiss all of it.
There is litle doubt that the Administration has made secret far far more than is needed to protect us from terrorist, IF it is terrorist they don't want to know what they do. Why?
Also, there is little doubt that at least some of the "data and facts" presented in the video are beyond question. Something is fishy.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
I've always had doubt about Pentagon...
I've had doubt that "the high heat brought the towers down"...especially when they mentioned those other buildings that burned longer and still stayed up...explosives make a lot of sense... just, who put them there?
The PA flight I never really questioned, but now I do... and those phone calls are interesting...
It would make sense, if this were true, why Bush just stood back and acted like a "lame duck" up until 9/11...
I guess, we'll never know...unless it's unclassified
Posted by jordanreed on :
this was my theory all along..i have always been suspicious of our government..just the way i am... i believe they have,would,do anything and everything to protect and increase their agenda, whether that be wealth,power..etc..the enormous power within their grasp is mind-boggling. and the wealth to be attained thru dubious means is astounding. just dont rock the boat too much,or else you might be on their hit-list!! go to work,pay your taxes and shut-up...every day more laws are being enacted that take just a little more freedom away..
Posted by mjm2005 on :
Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
not too sure about that one...i'm sure they made a few bucks off their wheeling and dealing..not to mention the power they had...its all about the bling-bling
Posted by mjm2005 on :
That was brought up in the video.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed:
quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
not too sure about that one...i'm sure they made a few bucks off their wheeling and dealing..not to mention the power they had...its all about the bling-bling
Maybe it's just more proof that umbrella organizations such as the Illuminati exist.
Posted by glassman on :
illuminati? or trilateral commision....
i was just offering a proof of the guys DD on the FEMA page: it does exist...
and anybody saying they couldn't imagine an airline being used as a missile missed a Tom Clancy novel...
idjits... or crooks? you choose... i pick idjits...
the newamerican century stuff is true also...
they have a long list of publications starting back in '98 saying america's defense is becoming too weak...
quite frankly? i have a hard time believing that a conspiracy of this magnitude could remain uncovered this long...
yes, there are as many "circumstantial" coincidences presented here as we had for WMD in Iraq....
who has benefited the most from all of this?
anybody selling OIL......
Posted by bdgee on :
Hey, Glass..., you must not have been watching close to that video. It cites several studies from the pentagon and various federal agencies that studied exactly how crashing an airliner into a tall building could be done and what the physical results would be.....all reported to the Administration, shotely before 9-11, of course.
Posted by Jelly on :
I'm just blown away right now. Excellent post..I sent it on. Unfortunately, I'm not as shocked as I expected to be. It's very hard to swallow...that all looks pretty concrete to me. I feel sick about it.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
Yeah, the best thing to do is just pass it on. That's what they asked. It's just so interesting.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
Posted by: semperfi In reply to: mjm2005 who wrote msg# 220766 Date:2/11/2006 3:32:43 PM Post #of 220869
mjm >>> WOW ! I just watched the entire video. I sent it to my brother who is a professor at the University of Iowa. he called me 15 minutes after receiving it and is gong to send it to everyone he knows after he is finished watching it. THAT WAS POWERFUL! THANK YOU!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Hey, Glass..., you must not have been watching close to that video. It cites several studies from the pentagon and various federal agencies that studied exactly how crashing an airliner into a tall building could be done and what the physical results would be.....all reported to the Administration, shotely before 9-11, of course.
i saw...
the admin had warnings this was gonna happen and ignored them, that's why this stuff has been kept secret...
the admin is incompetent... they are trying to hide their incompetence...
i also watched this guys first (i assume it was them) video put out over a year ago...
and i do like conspiracy THEORIES as a hobby, but this is pretty serious chit here...
i'm not saying they are full of chit.. i'm still skeptical about their overall story... the number of people involved in a conspiracy of this size would be hard to manage... the succes of the secrecy ANY conspiracy is inversely proportional to he number of people involved....
are there coverups? YES! alot of them....
BUT?
a whole lotta people would have to have been murdered after the fact (not counting the actual death toll) to keep this quiet...
just trying to exersize healthy skepticism...
honestly? i always go to incompetence and subsequent excuse making FIRST.... it's the normal human condition...
let me show you a pictuere of the Pentagon after it was struck PERFECTLY by a jet liner
as you can plainly see? there were two engines and the fuselage....
yes, it was a perfect strike, and YES! the US govt was knowledgable about the possibility that a jet-liner could very likely be used as a missile, and in Europe just months before? the Italians were set up to defend against just such an attack for the G8 summit..they had intel that warned there were REMOTE contoled airplanes or jets... IMO? the coverup is how badly the admin misjudged the seriousness and capability of the terrorists.
Bush was quoted complaining about swatting flies as i recall...
YES! the engines should have done more damage, and yes the fuselage does seem to have penetrated to much... BUT? this is not conclusive...
and yes i do think the govt has been far too secretive about the truth.... they do work for US not vice versa....
Posted by mjm2005 on :
The best thing to do is just explore all of the possible options. Rule out the impossible, but look at the rest of the options.
Posted by jordanreed on :
in that pic?..i dont see where the wings or the engines hit
Posted by jordanreed on :
where's the damn plane?
Posted by mjm2005 on :
I was thinking the same thing.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
Loose Change is on Google's Popular List now...
Posted by LEO on :
I saw this video the day after the 2004 presidential election, while I was employed by the Young Voters Alliance. The person who showed it to me worked for the Young Democrats of America. She told me it was fake. Who knows...? I do know this video has been around for over a year. Interesting it's only now being sent around the internet.
Posted by mjm2005 on :
This is the Second Edition. Was that the one you saw? I only first saw this now, but I know people who were aware of it earlier.
Posted by LEO on :
This looks just like the one I saw, I'm watching it again to see...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: in that pic?..i dont see where the wings or the engines hit
glad you asked...
did a little more looking...
i was assuming the two black circles to either side of the collapsed area were where the ngines hit.. turns out they are too far apart.... my scale was little off according tothis picture....
Posted by glassman on :
impact point before it collapsed...
there is still glass in the windows above, covered in foam spray??? Posted by BuyTex on :
re: "impact point"...the Pentagon, we're seeing?
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
The 1-2-3-4 Tragic events of 9/11 are for many, just to much for many to fathom, that explains part of reason for unreasonable theories.
..The un-prepared minds of human beings can only handle a certain amount of fast moving input, before we begin the compartimentum process in order to function.
Even the trained experts were on overload that day..
We have moved on since that day, but underneath it changed America, another terrible blow to the innocense of our children..
We are in my opinion in the stage between the last event and the next one..
They will strike again, why? because they love killing. They are hooked on killing just like a junky on Herion.
Posted by glassman on :
hmmm, never really thought about it...assumed there would be overhead footage from news crews...assumed the building would be "hardened" etc...pretty interesting
Posted by bdgee on :
If I left the idea that I question that Al Qaeda "arranged" the attack on 9=11, it was not intentional. I never doubted that.
However, for some reason, the Administration has either made secret or destroyed any and everything that could be there to point out that they either did or did not have reason to expect it to happen.
It has become fashionable (wonder why when the Administration has spent multi--hundreds of millions of dollars of OUR money campaigning to bring such a belief about) believe that the Administration was dutifully seeking to learn what Al Qaeda (and their ilk)was doing before 9-11 and the radical Moslems were just to good for them to catch.
Actually, I haven't forgotten that they made speach after speach after speach (Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc....the whole team) up to just days before 9-11 berating Clinton and democrats for wasting time and funding on the possibility of terrorist attacks, insisting that they must reduce all funding for that so they could concentrate on "star wars", which they insisted was the ony actual real danger to the US (not bothering to mention the fact that vqrious members of the Administration had large investments on Corporations that sought research and development funding for "star wars" and none had any investments in anything that was concerned with preventing terrorism.
(I point out too that Bush spent multy-millions of OUR money on propaganda to periodically require "standard testing" of all the school children in the country, without bothering to point out that the Bush family is single largest holder of stocks and bonds, world wide, in corporations that provide "standardized test for school children.
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: The 1-2-3-4 Tragic events of 9/11 are for many, just to much for many to fathom, that explains part of reason for unreasonable theories.
..The un-prepared minds of human beings can only handle a certain amount of fast moving input, before we begin the compartimentum process in order to function.
Even the trained experts were on overload that day..
We have moved on since that day, but underneath it changed America, another terrible blow to the innocense of our children..
We are in my opinion in the stage between the last event and the next one..
They will strike again, why? because they love killing. They are hooked on killing just like a junky on Herion.
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Posted by LEO on :
Yeah MJM, it looks like the same video with some extra interviews and stuff. And I will agree with Dust, people rarely remember things exactly how they happen, especially in those kinds of circumstances, and especially when those interviews happen after a substantial amount of time has passed. Time will tell with this one. If it gets widespread play on the internet and some news sources pick it up we may even hear something from Washington on it. With this administrations history of secrecy and admitting to no wrongdoings I kinda doubt we will, though. We'll see...
Posted by mjm2005 on :
Cool, let me know.
Posted by glassman on :
truth is stranger than fiction...
MY first gut reaction on the morning of 911? it was one of the Columbian drug cartels...
we had just extradited Fabio Ochoa
Alleged Colombian Drug Lord Extradited to U.S. Aired September 8, 2001 - 08:01 ET It took nearly two years but Fabio Ochoa, an alleged drug lord from Colombia, is on U.S. soil this morning. Ochoa was extradited overnight after losing a legal battle in Colombia.
obviously? i was wrong....
the drug cartels have done much more to damage our nation and it's future than sadam did... (no NS, sadam isn't innocent, sheesh)
i still can't get over how easily the american public forgave Bush for the screwup...
not on my watch?? d'oh... i forgot it was all clinton's fault... it's always somebody elses fault with this crew....
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
glass, these drug cartels are in "my opinion already involved with terrorists...
Laws of " Birds of feather" are only a translater away.
When we are attacked again, it will not surprise me the least bit, to find out it is a "joint venture" carried out by several radical factions, working together.
Argentina, has been relatively quiet for some time now...There is a very strong Facist [Nazi] underground that thrives down there..They are young and getting ambitious.
A World wide "Axis of Evil" may very well be true, but coming from a source that is low on the Radar..
See what I mean by "Birds of a Feather".
Power, money, and Killing is the life blood of all these groups.
Power= Nazis Money= Cartels Killing=Terrorists
[ February 11, 2006, 23:43: Message edited by: Dustoff101 ]
Posted by jordanreed on :
drugs and cartels?..
may be associated with the terrorists..not sure.. but certainly with each other..
we were never attacked
by outside forces!!!
it was within!!
thats what this whole video is about...
Posted by jordanreed on :
sorry for my outburst... just got home an i'm hammered
Posted by BuyTex on :
lol, pound a few didja, jordan?
Posted by jordanreed on :
my head hurts....
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
jordon, look on the bright side! It ain't monday with 20k on the line!
Posted by mjm2005 on :
haha, jordan...shouldve slept later
Posted by mjm2005 on :
So, no one else cares to comment?
Posted by BuyTex on :
not right now
Posted by mjm2005 on :
haha...ok
Posted by Peaser01 on :
I've watched this twice, once over the weekend and again late last night.
Looks like this would be a good topic for a HS term-paper.
I did one on the Conspiracy Theory on JFK's death in HS.
There were some very interesting points brought out in the video.
The Iraqis sure outsmarted our intelligence, they conned our brilliant leaders into taking out Saddam. Just wait until we're out of Iraq, then Iran and Iraq can take over the Middle East united together now that Saddam is out of Iran's way.
Super Powers:
China/Russia v. US/UK v. Iran/Iraq
Posted by bdgee on :
Pease, you are beginning to understand......'cept your teams may be misalligned.....
Posted by Peaser01 on :
Thanks beeg. I'm trying to pick up on things. I'm a little thick sometimes, so spelling stuff out for this just under 30 yr. old is helpful at times.
What would you do differrently with the 'teams'?
China may just try and conquer us all and forget abut Russia?
Or add Russia to Iran/Iraq?
Or both? LOL
Is this better:
China v. Iran/Iraq/Russia v. US/UK/Germany
I stereotyped China/Russia together. The whole communism/socialism thing. My fault.
Posted by bdgee on :
What ever possibly would those hard line religious fanatices want to aligned with the Russians or Chinese? Moreover, China sits in a position to take over world finances. Why would they jeopardize that in a waraligned with the Moslems?
This ain't the 1950s and 1960s. Forget about communism, it didn't work then and won't with another try either. Moreover, China has NEVER been communistic economically or in any non-social form or way.
Any and all calls to fear communism today are just people that can't think past hatred that they leaarned as children, which can't get past.....or from those that want you to look out for communist while they steal everything you hold dear behind your back.
Posted by glassman on :
you guys forgot about Pakistan and India....
they have a seat at this table too...
this never was a checkers game...
Sun Tzu said it a long time ago... the best way to win a war is without fighting...
Posted by bdgee on :
And Brazil!
And any place with vast resources that has been made to feel left out over the last 100years!
Posted by Peaser01 on :
Blame Canada! lol
Actually, the new PM of Cananda is chummy with GW isn't he?
They've been left out a lot. At least they have good cigars and fishin' up there.
Posted by Peaser01 on :
Poor old Saddam, Cried wolf too many times with dem dare "WMD's" to keep Iran at bay, and look what we do.
Step in and "disarm" him.
Iran/Iraq now one big happy family when we finally pull out.
Posted by Peaser01 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: you guys forgot about Pakistan and India....
they have a seat at this table too...
this never was a checkers game...
Sun Tzu said it a long time ago... the best way to win a war is without fighting...
Well, we did give Pakistan some old fighter jets.
Posted by Peaser01 on :
C-y'all tomorrow. I'm going to bed. Busy day tomorrow.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Peaser01: Poor old Saddam, Cried wolf too many times with dem dare "WMD's" to keep Iran at bay, and look what we do.
Step in and "disarm" him.
Iran/Iraq now one big happy family when we finally pull out.
we can't pull out...
i'm trying to figger out why Iran wants to get their butts kicked in... they are leaving us no choice...
Posted by Peaser01 on :
'when we finally pull out.'
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
[ February 15, 2006, 16:30: Message edited by: Peaser01 ]
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
In a secure, undisclosed location?
Posted by Peaser01 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
impact point before it collapsed...
there is still glass in the windows above, covered in foam spray???
Looks like a mighty small impact hole there in the lower left portion of the pic, don't it.
Posted by bmwboyee on :
Good evening Everyone. This is the video that can prove our own country brought down the towers! To many factors which played out in the favor of an inside job. Those who are smart will notice when the plane landed in PA there was nothing but a hole in the ground.
No bodies, not an ounce of blood, not even anything of a plane! Very Poor job of planting evidence Bush! OJ did a better job of hiding his tracks!
Every single plane crash you see something left behind! Not to mention was the 3 buildings that feel in NYC were the first to fall of "FIRE" If you notice when the buildings feel it didn't cave in! Objects were throw outward of the building!
Science disproves that from happening! You would not also see flashes of light when the building is falling! Meaning bombs were planted to bring them down from the support beams!
People were reported as to saying secuirty was lowered days before 9/11 and bomb sniffing dogs were removed all together
Tower 7 was the SEC building! All the files gone. PEOPLE were shorting boings stock up to 10x the daily avg days before 9/11
Out of all the terriost only about 6 actually died! The rest are still alive. And have been reported alive..
Where are ths bodies of the people who were suppose to be on those planes!
Did the govt kill them?
These are all questions we want answered. This led to us going into iraq and bringing Saddam down!
Bush planned this war to get back at saddam
Posted by Bob Frey on :
BMW.,, Ya are nuts ... And yes ya may be on the short side of smart.
First we saw the planes hit the towers.
The wild thing is that there are folks out here and others that might think this twisted tail is fact.
[ April 09, 2006, 03:03: Message edited by: Bob Frey ]
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
bmwboyee, I was going to let your idiotic statement stand without commenting about it.....
But! I just can't.....Do you actually believe that garbage you posted?
I think you need to go back to the Funny Farm and return to an extreme treatment program for the dilusional !!!!~
I've read some nonsensical extreme left/right propaganda on this board, but, "you" 'chit for brains' take the grand prize!
Posted by jordanreed on :
I think he was only stating what was in the video...Isnt that what this thread is about?
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: I think he was only stating what was in the video...Isnt that what this thread is about?
------------------------------------------------- So, what are you advocating? Towing the line of idiocy without comment!
Posted by jordanreed on :
i think the video brought up a lot of interesting questions, which cant completely be put off as B.S...questions which have never been answered. So, you think the video is total idiocy? Reading your previous posts , I thought you agreed that there is a lot of suspicion surrounding 911. I dont advocate idiocy...but i dont agree with name-calling either....unless it's a certain someone ...LOL
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
jordon, Your right about name-calling....Idiot is letting him off way to easy.LOL
Hey was it you that wanted to open a Bar in El Salvadore?
Last night there was a documentory on Latino Gangs down there...Not a wise place for a Gringo to go into buisness..
M-11 Latino gangs are taking control of much of the country.....
Posted by jordanreed on :
Yikes...Guatamala..Antigua,and yes, we plan on going in Jan. Its a risk ,in more ways then one...but if everything goes according to plan? we're doin it. we have investors and someone who is in the process of finding all the pertinent info..i.e. location,patronage,pricing,and now we'll have to consider locals who recent us,etc..Wanna join us??...beautiful women
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
Well, in my younger days I would probably go just for the adventure..
Now? my eye sight and reflexes would limit my usefulness to a 12 gauge... I would have to be way to up front and personal..LOL
Those Cats spray down a line of lead with Automatic Pistol and Rifle fire...
Your gonna need some young Blood like HYLANDER!
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Has anyone asked their congressman/ senator/ media outlet to review the video and follow up? It'd be interesting to see if a little investigative reporting answers the questions this video raises or just brings up more questions that don't have answers.
Anyone see V for Vendeta yet? Some eerie similarities in the plot line.
I'm not a conspiracy advocate. But...when the glove doesn't fit....
I don't know what to think. I don't think Bush would actually kill Americans to further his agenda but there is some compelling evidence that they knew "something" was going to happen that day and didn't do anything about it. Why else would Condi Rice be calling select people and telling them not to fly that day?
A non partisan investigation is called for in my opinion. Question is...how do we get it to happen? Who would be brave enough to risk the wrath and reprisal of the White House? CNN? Doubt it. Democratic Party? Too much to lose in the upcoming races.
Kerry or Gore are done politically, but even if they would take it on (which I doubt) no one would trust the results. They are disgruntled and beaten opponents of the Bush admin and the GOP.
Maybe one of the old news guys that doesn't report anymore but still has a lot of credibility.
Hmmmmmm...
BF
Posted by Peaser01 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: ...when the glove doesn't fit....
you must aquit?
I couldn't resist.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Maybe one of the old news guys that doesn't report anymore but still has a lot of credibility.
Thanks, but no--I'm concentrating on trading...
maybe get that kid, Brokaw Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:Maybe one of the old news guys that doesn't report anymore but still has a lot of credibility.
Thanks, but no--I'm concentrating on trading...
maybe get that kid, Brokaw
I say send in Geraldo! Maybe he could do another "Al Capone's Secret Vault" kinda thingie... Posted by BuyTex on :
Actually, I would like to know about those put orders and which SEC investigations were affected...should be easy enough to trace--you'd think.
The missile/Pentagon thing is interesting, but the "light standards" not showing the right damage was confusing...as was the "faked" plane crash in PA...I don't get what the point would be...
Posted by CareyRay on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Actually, I would like to know about those put orders and which SEC investigations were affected...should be easy enough to trace--you'd think.
The missile/Pentagon thing is interesting, but the "light standards" not showing the right damage was confusing...as was the "faked" plane crash in PA...I don't get what the point would be...
Not sure if you were looking at the video! The building was taken down to cover up the shorting which took place days before 9/11 Also if you look into the Plane hitting the group you will notice nothing is there, but a ground in the earth! No bodies, no parts, nothing! The plane was seen landing in Cleveland and the 200 people on board were removed from the plane. This for sure is a 100% cover up. How could they even lie and say the air in downtown Manhattan is clean after 2 100+ store buildings were brough down.
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
Careyray, smoking Crack and drinking Wood Alcohal is not healthy for the Brain..When and if you come down, go back and read your post..
Posted by CareyRay on :
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: Careyray, smoking Crack and drinking Wood Alcohal is not healthy for the Brain..When and if you come down, go back and read your post..
Dustoff not only can you not spell, but this isn't the first time you have bashed someones thoughts on this video. Why must you be so negative. I understand your an ex-soilder and you would do anything for your country. If what is said in this video is indeed correct. That would mean we lost over 2k Soilders over seas since Bush came into office for what reason? Your to old to be so closed minded. Maybe the old age is catching up to you.
Posted by CareyRay on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: drugs and cartels?..
may be associated with the terrorists..not sure.. but certainly with each other..
we were never attacked
by outside forces!!!
it was within!!
thats what this whole video is about...
Hello Jordan. Dustoff seems to be missing the point on this video. Maybe he was the ones who planted TNT in the SEC building to bring it down. Once a soilder always a soilder so he will do anything to defend his boss "Goverment"
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
Karriebays,,,,Whats doos yuz mean I can'ts splell!
My diktinary goes a way ups to AB..
Posted by CareyRay on :
Anyone care to guess what happened to those people who landed in Clevland. who were reported crashing in PA?
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by CareyRay:
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Actually, I would like to know about those put orders and which SEC investigations were affected...should be easy enough to trace--you'd think.
The missile/Pentagon thing is interesting, but the "light standards" not showing the right damage was confusing...as was the "faked" plane crash in PA...I don't get what the point would be...
Not sure if you were looking at the video! The building was taken down to cover up the shorting which took place days before 9/11 Also if you look into the Plane hitting the group you will notice nothing is there, but a ground in the earth! No bodies, no parts, nothing! The plane was seen landing in Cleveland and the 200 people on board were removed from the plane. This for sure is a 100% cover up. How could they even lie and say the air in downtown Manhattan is clean after 2 100+ store buildings were brough down.
Look, for all I know, the whole movie is made up; the "firemen" could be actors--how would I know? We've had pix here on other threads of the damage at the Pentagon that do bear questioning... But to fake Bin-Laden's involvement and use destruction of WTC to protect (what I presume you to mean) "naked" shorting? Wheeee...I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy...but give me Castro whacking Kennedy in return for the Bay of Pigs or the attempts on Castro's life; give me the Mob and LBJ teamed up...Hell, give me Sinatra PO'd over JFK's snub of Sammy... but WTC-destruction to protect Shorty? Seriously, I'd rather do aliens-from-space-directed-pyramid-construction. Just sounds like the *precise* co-ordinates of Balder & Dash to me...
Posted by CareyRay on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:Originally posted by CareyRay:
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Actually, I would like to know about those put orders and which SEC investigations were affected...should be easy enough to trace--you'd think.
The missile/Pentagon thing is interesting, but the "light standards" not showing the right damage was confusing...as was the "faked" plane crash in PA...I don't get what the point would be...
Not sure if you were looking at the video! The building was taken down to cover up the shorting which took place days before 9/11 Also if you look into the Plane hitting the group you will notice nothing is there, but a ground in the earth! No bodies, no parts, nothing! The plane was seen landing in Cleveland and the 200 people on board were removed from the plane. This for sure is a 100% cover up. How could they even lie and say the air in downtown Manhattan is clean after 2 100+ store buildings were brough down.
Look, for all I know, the whole movie is made up; the "firemen" could be actors--how would I know? We've had pix here on other threads of the damage at the Pentagon that do bear questioning... But to fake Bin-Laden's involvement and use destruction of WTC to protect (what I presume you to mean) "naked" shorting? Wheeee...I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy...but give me Castro whacking Kennedy in return for the Bay of Pigs or the attempts on Castro's life; give me the Mob and LBJ teamed up...Hell, give me Sinatra PO'd over JFK's snub of Sammy... but WTC-destruction to protect Shorty? Seriously, I'd rather do aliens-from-space-directed-pyramid-construction. Just sounds like the *precise* co-ordinates of Balder & Dash to me...
Well Tex so what was the reason for the SEC,FBI,CIA building aka WTC 7 for coming down? Don't you believe if the SEC made a case on people shorting a stock before 9/11 and it being as high as 10x the normal avg don't you believe that would raise question marks. Take the evidence for what it is worth! No plane hit the pentagon, No plane crashed in PA, and how do you explain some of the high jackers being alive. Which means 2 of the planes which went down never had anyone in it to bring it down.
Posted by HILANDER on :
quote:Originally posted by CareyRay: Anyone care to guess what happened to those people who landed in Clevland. who were reported crashing in PA?
I do, it's about time this has been brought up too. The government handed them over to the Greys, a cybernectic species of space aliens our government currently has treaties with for technology. This goes back to the 30's and through Roswell and now. For a small percentage of our population (ie the people on the flight) we are given technology by the aliens who make up one of thirteen alien races that monitor our planet. Like I said before, we get new tech. they get humans to experiment on. Now, of the 13 species of Aliens that monitor and visit us most are indifferent about us, however the greys tend to be nasty little *******s that tend to be malevolent. Also, we must really watch the Leprechaun faction. While cute with funny little accents, the are malevolent little sods as well. Now, if we can keep the Leprechauns and Greys happy by not pursuing their frosted lucky charms or cutting back on humans for experimentation, we have been guaranteed that they will get together and bring us a great liberal, illegal immigrant loving, socialist messiah for our next leader. And this one won't have a penchant for fat brunettes in blue dresses.
ART BELL RULES!!!!!!!
Posted by HILANDER on :
Ahhhh,
8 posts, and registered, mostl likely today, and you are picking fights with Dusty? Not smart Pal, he's got a lot more friends here than you or I do. Probably shouldn't talk smack when he is trying to make "funny" there sizzlechest.
Posted by BuyTex on :
Agitated Carey writes:
quote:Don't you believe if the SEC made a case on people shorting a stock before 9/11 and it being as high as 10x the normal avg don't you believe that would raise question marks. Take the evidence for what it is worth!
I think that if the "secret" government decided to blow up buildings related to every SEC investigation, the East Coast would look the Mid-East...
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ya, HI, "born" today...
Posted by CareyRay on :
quote:Originally posted by HILANDER: Ahhhh,
8 posts, and registered, mostl likely today, and you are picking fights with Dusty? Not smart Pal, he's got a lot more friends here than you or I do. Probably shouldn't talk smack when he is trying to make "funny" there sizzlechest.
Hilander we aren't in high school. I can careless who is partnered with whom? I didn't like Dustoffs comments so I commented on them. What is his friends on allstocks going to do to me. Can't be worse then what Bush did to those 2k people who died in the Towers
Posted by HILANDER on :
Hmmmmmmm. I'm hunting wabbits and drinking home made beer.
Posted by BuyTex on :
you mean, Wascally Wabbits?
Who made da beer?
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Damn straight HILANDER!
I got drunk with a leprechaun once. Woke up in the middle of a fairie ring with all my hair done up in bows and my butt hair shaved off.
Couldn't show my face in that part of the forest for more than a year without the dryads bursting out in laughter. Had to wipe out a roving band of hobgoblins just to get a little respect again!
Seriously CRay. I'm not gonna say this is all bunk but you got to admit, the idea that G-men taking a plane full of people off in the middle of a busy airport and no one from the airport or the airline making a peep about it??? That's getting pretty far out there man.
The Bigfoot
Posted by BuyTex on :
lol, fellas...suspect our new pal just might maybe perhaps have a lil ol' agenda:
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: you mean, Wascally Wabbits?
Who made da beer?
A good buddy of mine who is German.
Posted by BuyTex on :
so it's dark? lager-ish, not pilsner-ish?
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
MMMM Guinness!
Posted by BuyTex on :
mmmm....Lone Star: you get a puzzle in the bottlecap Posted by Dustoff101 on :
Ah! Phooey! You people don't know diddly squat!!
Everybody knows it's those damn pot smoking drunken Iguana's that are the ones taking over and causing all the carnage!
The Iguana's were not so bad when they just smoked Pot...It was the drinking of rot gut that made um turn on us! Geezzz, I thought everyone knew that..
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: Ah! Phooey! You people don't know diddly squat!!
Everybody knows it's those damn pot smoking drunken Iguana's that are the ones taking over and causing all the carnage!
The Iguana's were not so bad when they just smoked Pot...It was the drinking of rot gut that made um turn on us! Geezzz, I thought everyone knew that..
I'd give a good stock pick to see what the original Art would have to say to our new Poster..LMAO
Posted by HILANDER on :
No, it's pilsnerish. He's crankin out about 10 gallons a week right now. I'm not sure which micro brew he co-opted for this recipe. He makes a new one weekly.
Posted by BuyTex on :
cool...I'd like to try that. Not much on those heavy beers...
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
Damnit Highlander! Stop talking home brew!
I am on antibiotics for this damn flu bug...
A Cold Home brew and a cigarette is nothing short of torture for me to think about..
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Dark Dark Dark Dark Dark
That's the way it's gotta be for me.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: Dark Dark Dark Dark Dark
That's the way it's gotta be for me.
kewl--we can drink together, and you won't grab mine Posted by Peaser01 on :
Just saw that our local PBS channel broadcasted the loose change 2 video. Nice.
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I couldn't resist.
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