Off topic, but interesting video for anyone that's interested. It's long... so break it up... it got me hooked...I have to watch it a second time...
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There is litle doubt that the Administration has made secret far far more than is needed to protect us from terrorist, IF it is terrorist they don't want to know what they do. Why?
Also, there is little doubt that at least some of the "data and facts" presented in the video are beyond question. Something is fishy.
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I've had doubt that "the high heat brought the towers down"...especially when they mentioned those other buildings that burned longer and still stayed up...explosives make a lot of sense... just, who put them there?
The PA flight I never really questioned, but now I do... and those phone calls are interesting...
It would make sense, if this were true, why Bush just stood back and acted like a "lame duck" up until 9/11...
I guess, we'll never know...unless it's unclassified
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this was my theory all along..i have always been suspicious of our government..just the way i am... i believe they have,would,do anything and everything to protect and increase their agenda, whether that be wealth,power..etc..the enormous power within their grasp is mind-boggling. and the wealth to be attained thru dubious means is astounding. just dont rock the boat too much,or else you might be on their hit-list!! go to work,pay your taxes and shut-up...every day more laws are being enacted that take just a little more freedom away..
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Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
not too sure about that one...i'm sure they made a few bucks off their wheeling and dealing..not to mention the power they had...its all about the bling-bling
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Our founding fathers would have been pissed.
not too sure about that one...i'm sure they made a few bucks off their wheeling and dealing..not to mention the power they had...its all about the bling-bling
Maybe it's just more proof that umbrella organizations such as the Illuminati exist.
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Hey, Glass..., you must not have been watching close to that video. It cites several studies from the pentagon and various federal agencies that studied exactly how crashing an airliner into a tall building could be done and what the physical results would be.....all reported to the Administration, shotely before 9-11, of course.
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I'm just blown away right now. Excellent post..I sent it on. Unfortunately, I'm not as shocked as I expected to be. It's very hard to swallow...that all looks pretty concrete to me. I feel sick about it.
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Yeah, the best thing to do is just pass it on. That's what they asked. It's just so interesting.
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Posted by: semperfi In reply to: mjm2005 who wrote msg# 220766 Date:2/11/2006 3:32:43 PM Post #of 220869
mjm >>> WOW ! I just watched the entire video. I sent it to my brother who is a professor at the University of Iowa. he called me 15 minutes after receiving it and is gong to send it to everyone he knows after he is finished watching it. THAT WAS POWERFUL! THANK YOU!
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Hey, Glass..., you must not have been watching close to that video. It cites several studies from the pentagon and various federal agencies that studied exactly how crashing an airliner into a tall building could be done and what the physical results would be.....all reported to the Administration, shotely before 9-11, of course.
i saw...
the admin had warnings this was gonna happen and ignored them, that's why this stuff has been kept secret...
the admin is incompetent... they are trying to hide their incompetence...
i also watched this guys first (i assume it was them) video put out over a year ago...
and i do like conspiracy THEORIES as a hobby, but this is pretty serious chit here...
i'm not saying they are full of chit.. i'm still skeptical about their overall story... the number of people involved in a conspiracy of this size would be hard to manage... the succes of the secrecy ANY conspiracy is inversely proportional to he number of people involved....
are there coverups? YES! alot of them....
BUT?
a whole lotta people would have to have been murdered after the fact (not counting the actual death toll) to keep this quiet...
just trying to exersize healthy skepticism...
honestly? i always go to incompetence and subsequent excuse making FIRST.... it's the normal human condition...
let me show you a pictuere of the Pentagon after it was struck PERFECTLY by a jet liner
as you can plainly see? there were two engines and the fuselage....
yes, it was a perfect strike, and YES! the US govt was knowledgable about the possibility that a jet-liner could very likely be used as a missile, and in Europe just months before? the Italians were set up to defend against just such an attack for the G8 summit..they had intel that warned there were REMOTE contoled airplanes or jets... IMO? the coverup is how badly the admin misjudged the seriousness and capability of the terrorists.
Bush was quoted complaining about swatting flies as i recall...
YES! the engines should have done more damage, and yes the fuselage does seem to have penetrated to much... BUT? this is not conclusive...
and yes i do think the govt has been far too secretive about the truth.... they do work for US not vice versa....
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The best thing to do is just explore all of the possible options. Rule out the impossible, but look at the rest of the options.
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I saw this video the day after the 2004 presidential election, while I was employed by the Young Voters Alliance. The person who showed it to me worked for the Young Democrats of America. She told me it was fake. Who knows...? I do know this video has been around for over a year. Interesting it's only now being sent around the internet.
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This is the Second Edition. Was that the one you saw? I only first saw this now, but I know people who were aware of it earlier.
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: in that pic?..i dont see where the wings or the engines hit
glad you asked...
did a little more looking...
i was assuming the two black circles to either side of the collapsed area were where the ngines hit.. turns out they are too far apart.... my scale was little off according tothis picture....
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The 1-2-3-4 Tragic events of 9/11 are for many, just to much for many to fathom, that explains part of reason for unreasonable theories.
..The un-prepared minds of human beings can only handle a certain amount of fast moving input, before we begin the compartimentum process in order to function.
Even the trained experts were on overload that day..
We have moved on since that day, but underneath it changed America, another terrible blow to the innocense of our children..
We are in my opinion in the stage between the last event and the next one..
They will strike again, why? because they love killing. They are hooked on killing just like a junky on Herion.
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hmmm, never really thought about it...assumed there would be overhead footage from news crews...assumed the building would be "hardened" etc...pretty interesting
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If I left the idea that I question that Al Qaeda "arranged" the attack on 9=11, it was not intentional. I never doubted that.
However, for some reason, the Administration has either made secret or destroyed any and everything that could be there to point out that they either did or did not have reason to expect it to happen.
It has become fashionable (wonder why when the Administration has spent multi--hundreds of millions of dollars of OUR money campaigning to bring such a belief about) believe that the Administration was dutifully seeking to learn what Al Qaeda (and their ilk)was doing before 9-11 and the radical Moslems were just to good for them to catch.
Actually, I haven't forgotten that they made speach after speach after speach (Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc....the whole team) up to just days before 9-11 berating Clinton and democrats for wasting time and funding on the possibility of terrorist attacks, insisting that they must reduce all funding for that so they could concentrate on "star wars", which they insisted was the ony actual real danger to the US (not bothering to mention the fact that vqrious members of the Administration had large investments on Corporations that sought research and development funding for "star wars" and none had any investments in anything that was concerned with preventing terrorism.
(I point out too that Bush spent multy-millions of OUR money on propaganda to periodically require "standard testing" of all the school children in the country, without bothering to point out that the Bush family is single largest holder of stocks and bonds, world wide, in corporations that provide "standardized test for school children.
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quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: The 1-2-3-4 Tragic events of 9/11 are for many, just to much for many to fathom, that explains part of reason for unreasonable theories.
..The un-prepared minds of human beings can only handle a certain amount of fast moving input, before we begin the compartimentum process in order to function.
Even the trained experts were on overload that day..
We have moved on since that day, but underneath it changed America, another terrible blow to the innocense of our children..
We are in my opinion in the stage between the last event and the next one..
They will strike again, why? because they love killing. They are hooked on killing just like a junky on Herion.
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Yeah MJM, it looks like the same video with some extra interviews and stuff. And I will agree with Dust, people rarely remember things exactly how they happen, especially in those kinds of circumstances, and especially when those interviews happen after a substantial amount of time has passed. Time will tell with this one. If it gets widespread play on the internet and some news sources pick it up we may even hear something from Washington on it. With this administrations history of secrecy and admitting to no wrongdoings I kinda doubt we will, though. We'll see...
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MY first gut reaction on the morning of 911? it was one of the Columbian drug cartels...
we had just extradited Fabio Ochoa
Alleged Colombian Drug Lord Extradited to U.S. Aired September 8, 2001 - 08:01 ET It took nearly two years but Fabio Ochoa, an alleged drug lord from Colombia, is on U.S. soil this morning. Ochoa was extradited overnight after losing a legal battle in Colombia.
obviously? i was wrong....
the drug cartels have done much more to damage our nation and it's future than sadam did... (no NS, sadam isn't innocent, sheesh)
i still can't get over how easily the american public forgave Bush for the screwup...
not on my watch?? d'oh... i forgot it was all clinton's fault... it's always somebody elses fault with this crew....
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