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Meshoe45
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posted July 21, 2004 08:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
w00t w00t

Theres the news gonna have a nice day

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 08:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOO HOO! If it doesn't go up today, there's a conspiracy.

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ChillRockin
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posted July 21, 2004 08:45     Click Here to See the Profile for ChillRockin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope it goes up today, I am tired of watching this stock fall.

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stocksrgoingup
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posted July 21, 2004 08:56     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChillRockin:
I hope it goes up today, I am tired of watching this stock fall.

Finally the patience pays off, hopefully?!!!

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realperson
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posted July 21, 2004 10:45     Click Here to See the Profile for realperson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You caint get much better news
next we should get a PR on subscribers
then were way over due for Pro Mag old TFCT stuff

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Meshoe45
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posted July 21, 2004 10:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aint done yet - still got EOD or mid day.

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 12:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, there has to be some major manipulation going on here with this stock. How can a company report two profitable quarters in a row and the 2nd quarter profit is larger than the first and Also have a 2 million dollar swing around from a loss the year before and the pps is only up 8% and DROPPING. It spiked early and has been dropping ever since. Talk about a stock that looks like it is being shorted!

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Nashdaq5
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posted July 21, 2004 13:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Nashdaq5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leardron:
Okay, there has to be some major manipulation going on here with this stock. How can a company report two profitable quarters in a row and the 2nd quarter profit is larger than the first and Also have a 2 million dollar swing around from a loss the year before and the pps is only up 8% and DROPPING. It spiked early and has been dropping ever since. Talk about a stock that looks like it is being shorted!


yea, seems to be the case with several others as well, for instance TSBB the last 2 months. Hard to find any pennies doing well today though, lottssssss of red.
I'm hoping TFCT releases some PR about Prizewise in the next few days, no reason why this shouldn't be above .20 at LEAST with the news we got this morning and the extremely profitable future here.

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futuresobjective
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posted July 21, 2004 13:36     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
agreed

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 13:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is absolutely pathetic. This stock actually looks like it is going to go red on the day after that news. I might as well not play the market anymore because the MMs will never let you win.

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Daddy's Last Penny
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posted July 21, 2004 14:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy's Last Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
could we be listed on the Berlin Exchange? anybody got the link for berlin exchange site cuz i'm pissed off this is riduculous, i've been lookin forward to this day for 3 weeks and the mm's have spoiled it before the fun ever began.

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pharmdman
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posted July 21, 2004 14:15     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Daddy's Last Penny:
could we be listed on the Berlin Exchange? anybody got the link for berlin exchange site cuz i'm pissed off this is riduculous, i've been lookin forward to this day for 3 weeks and the mm's have spoiled it before the fun ever began.

TFCT was delisted on May 17th... the easiest way to check for Berlin listing is to type the ticker symbol with ".be" at the end... for instance, go to finance.yahoo.com and type "TFCT.BE" in the quote field.

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Nashdaq5
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posted July 21, 2004 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Nashdaq5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looking at the chart for TFCT today is almost comical...especially keeping in mind the fact that they DID just release in a PR this morning that they're up $1.2 million in earnings from last quarter! I might just take all my money and put it on the craps table

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 14:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It spiked up to .1050 this morning and has done nothing but gone down since. You can't tell me that all that interest in this stock is all of the sudden gone in a matter of an hour. This is nothing more than Blatant manipulation on the part of the MMs. I usually don't use the "Blame the MMs theory" but in this case I can't see how you can't. They have reported today the main reason you go into business and that is to make a profit. Take all other PRs out of the mix, this is the only one that counts and it was very good. This is the whole point to of going into business. Not only have they reported a profit the last 3 quarters but their profit has increased substantially each quarter. I am just so mad right now.

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Meshoe45
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posted July 21, 2004 14:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your patient you'll be rewarded at 4pm

or 3.58 if you chose to sell

or tomm. when it gaps

I think we'll see news tomorrow on how the commercials went and gap in the AM. JMHO

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 14:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
If your patient you'll be rewarded at 4pm

or 3.58 if you chose to sell

or tomm. when it gaps

I think we'll see news tomorrow on how the commercials went and gap in the AM. JMHO


I hope your right. I think I need a yard of beer right now . Maybe a couple of yards. I feel like I was told I was going to get a 'vette' and it turned out to be a Chevette.

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pharmdman
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posted July 21, 2004 14:40     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leardron:
I hope your right. I think I need a yard of beer right now . Maybe a couple of yards. I feel like I was told I was going to get a 'vette' and it turned out to be a Chevette.


LOL... but the good news is that you can raffle that Chevette on PW for double the value!

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Leardron
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posted July 21, 2004 14:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
LOL... but the good news is that you can raffle that Chevette on PW for double the value!

LOL..That's a good one. Maybe I can raffle off my shares at double the value

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futuresobjective
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posted July 21, 2004 14:52     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder, even if we did get news tomorrow regarding prizewise.com, would we even move on it. I think the only thing that will make us move is numbers... at least at this point. So if we do get a pr in the near future, it had better state that we have a 100 million dollar contract with the gov, or that prizewise.com has singed up over 300k new users.... we need something dramatic. Maybe not that dramatic... but I used those numbers to get the point across.
They released pr's stating they were going to run commercials, and they had started or planned on starting a banner campaign for 60,000,000 impressions. That is a large campaign IMHO. I think anything that shows the outcome of those few factors will help move us up. Anything that is not as dramatic as today’s numbers were (IMHO) wont do much for us... that said I hope something happens soon. The pps should be at a minimum of 15 cents right now.

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Daddy's Last Penny
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posted July 21, 2004 16:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy's Last Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
selling 2 items enter to win--MEMOREX 100 pack 80min; 700mb blank CD-R (52X)--HOT!!! Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo PS/2 104keys---
--posted these at 3:30 today (7/21) lets see how fast these go..-- enter at your own risk of winning..lol..

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Meshoe45
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posted July 21, 2004 16:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two MM's held it down EOD.

I'm holding tomorrow = green day

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baseballmaster
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posted July 21, 2004 19:37     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE DISSAPOINTMENT OF THE PINK SHEETS....this will be the title of my book i am writing. TFCT and QBID....what happens when two comanies report great news...stock price jumps and then consolidation happens....but then there should be an EOD run....too bad this didnt happen today. TFCT is a profitable company with a lot less shares O/S than QBID. SO why no big run today....very upset but we do have 2 more days of trading to get us back of the .10 mark and beyond. All i can say is GO TFCT!! Still holding strong on both!!

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stocksrgoingup
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posted July 21, 2004 20:08     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TFCT is not a pink sheet.

quote:
Originally posted by baseballmaster:
THE DISSAPOINTMENT OF THE PINK SHEETS....this will be the title of my book i am writing. TFCT and QBID....what happens when two comanies report great news...stock price jumps and then consolidation happens....but then there should be an EOD run....too bad this didnt happen today. TFCT is a profitable company with a lot less shares O/S than QBID. SO why no big run today....very upset but we do have 2 more days of trading to get us back of the .10 mark and beyond. All i can say is GO TFCT!! Still holding strong on both!!

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baseballmaster
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posted July 22, 2004 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was a title to a book as i said ..not saing TFCT is a pink sheet stock...although lately they act more like a pink with all the day traders that are killing any rallies. Pinkies can be very dissapointing specially when you get some solid companies and they cant run cause of too many O/S, too many MM's keeping it from running, or just too many PR's that after awhile dont even make sense on why they released a PR. Then again if you are a daytrader u are making some sweeeet cash on pinkies and i guess that is why i am mad at myself for not doing the same. I am looking long on QBID and TFCT, but when things get going they quickly reverse. Have a good night and i hope we see green again tom.

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Garret
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posted July 22, 2004 07:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Garret     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not quite what I expected yesterday but I will take it. Atleast we were in the GREEN yesterday. The way this one is moving I don't think we will see to much movement today. But I hope I am wrong.

Come on TFCT make me some money!!!

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stocksrgoingup
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posted July 22, 2004 09:21     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No PR yet, most likely back in the .08's today again. Will probably close in the red today.

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Originally posted by Garret:
Not quite what I expected yesterday but I will take it. Atleast we were in the GREEN yesterday. The way this one is moving I don't think we will see to much movement today. But I hope I am wrong.

Come on TFCT make me some money!!!


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futuresobjective
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posted July 22, 2004 09:34     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no rhyme or reason to this stock ... great news yesterday we rise and sink back down... we should still be on a slight upward movement... makes no sense to me... any thoughts?

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Garret
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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
no rhyme or reason to this stock ... great news yesterday we rise and sink back down... we should still be on a slight upward movement... makes no sense to me... any thoughts?


I have to agree with "stocksrgoingup". I think we won't see much happen today. Hopefully what we see will be postive though. With all the positive info floatting around we should have always been in a slight upward pull but obviously we are not. I am at somewhat of a loss as well. All things aside though, I think we are still at a good buy in price for those looking to pick up more shares. We should be in the higher teens by mid Aug, in my opinion. I believe that is all tenative on weather prizewise sells any of there higher end items or not.

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Seems to be holding strong, just doubled my position at .086, i cant wait to hear news about government contracts, Prizewise is nice and some profits should follow the closing of high ticket items. Anyone here put their business on the coupons? I wonder how much revenue that creates?

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Originally posted by gone to the dogs:
Seems to be holding strong, just doubled my position at .086, i cant wait to hear news about government contracts, Prizewise is nice and some profits should follow the closing of high ticket items. Anyone here put their business on the coupons? I wonder how much revenue that creates?


I am aware I have said this before... but your little saying about your dogs and you being a man... always cracks me up...

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on another note... as much as I dislike saying this, I do believe it will break below 8. I am going to put a buy in at 0.076 or there abouts... it might not be today might not me till next week, but heck I think it will touch there...just giving a thought, anyone else agree with me on this... I always like to know if I am insane or not... GLTA

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Garret
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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
I am aware I have said this before... but your little saying about your dogs and you being a man... always cracks me up...

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on another note... as much as I dislike saying this, I do believe it will break below 8. I am going to put a buy in at 0.076 or there abouts... it might not be today might not me till next week, but heck I think it will touch there...just giving a thought, anyone else agree with me on this... I always like to know if I am insane or not... GLTA


Unfortunately you are not insane. lol I think we will hit below eight, we haven't seen the bottom yet, but i hope we do soon so we can start heading back up. To say this stock is "undervalued" is an understatement. I would be happy if we could just see a quarter by the end of summer. Wishful thinking.....

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posted July 22, 2004 13:31     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where is everyone in at?
I am in at 0.128 managed to average down to just above 0.10 cents... if it breaks 0.08 cents I might try to triple up, get that average down as low as pos.

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Garret
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posted July 22, 2004 14:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Garret     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in at .05

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quote:
Originally posted by futuresobjective:
where is everyone in at?
I am in at 0.128 managed to average down to just above 0.10 cents... if it breaks 0.08 cents I might try to triple up, get that average down as low as pos.

I'm in at .055

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posted July 22, 2004 17:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Candydish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.051

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JonBoat
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Got in March with the mag patch news .027
took half off the top at .177 all free shares. Got got out of IBZT too many crooks over there. Going to get more TFCT in the low 8s.

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posted July 22, 2004 21:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.06 shortly after prizewise started up.

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Nashdaq5
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sitting at .098 average, if we break below .08 I'll add more.

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posted July 23, 2004 00:58     Click Here to See the Profile for The Wanderer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.10 and holding long!

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roger7485
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Wow its been awhile since ive been on this board. I guess the stock has been trading pretty much sideways like I expected. But, as I had expressed profitability concerns towards the beginning of this thread..it looks as though I have a preliminary answer. The next 10-Q is going to be a huge filing. I will be looking for TWO things in the 10-Q.

Item 1.

No further dilution.

If they have not dumped any more shares, and their profits are now enough to support ongoing operations, then this is a screaming buy. 5 million revenue/500 million shares = .01 EPS multiple.

Item 2.

Specific revenues from prizewise operations.

If they can show me that they are cranking out growing positive cash flow from prizewise...then count me in for a significant stake. In fact, in the future I see them possibly selling all the other companies in TFCT for cash and focusing on their bread and butter. But the reason im looking for specific prizewise revenue is that the 1.2 million in revenue could be from one large order from Trident, their defense/security company. Now revenues are revenues, but still, I would like to see prizewise, which should now be their main focus, as a profitable venture.

Bottom line, if they are now generating increasing cash flow, and moving towards an earnings multiple of .01, then the stock price would be rediculously undervalued.


Looking longer term...This company might not even have to do a reverse split to get to a reputable exchange. I thought that with 500 million shares, they might never be able to get an EPS or PPS that people would respect but this company has surprised me. Cant wait for that 10-Q.


And for a quick comment on the recent spike on this news....

Penny investors are usually not investors. When a penny stock has high volume, it is usually momentum players getting in and then getting out. It was simple profit taking by traders that caused this spike and drop in price.

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July 23, 2004 08:30 AM US Eastern Timezone

21st Century's prizeWise Announces New Coupon Agreement

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 23, 2004--21st Century Technologies, Inc.'s (OTC:BB TFCT.OB) portfolio investment company, prizeWise.com announced today the signing of an agreement with a major coupon distribution source. Steven Rinehart, President of prizeWise,Inc. advised 21st Century that this distribution agreement will add thousands of coupons and discount offers from almost 800 on-line stores, including major office suppliers, book retailers, children's toys, men's and women's wear stores and major discount merchants. "Within two weeks, the programming will be in place to allow users to browse through a list of merchants and coupons before purchasing," stated Mr. Rinehart. "The improvements to the site will include electronic coupons that can be clicked on and hard coupons that can be printed," added Mr. Rinehart. The coupon data base will be updated daily to remove expired coupons and add new coupons and discount offers. prizeWise continues to pursue additional coupon offers which can be used in the fixed location merchant market segment.

Kevin Romney, President of 21st Century Technologies, commented "prizeWise users can now shop the most popular retailers anywhere in the nation and enjoy tangible savings on merchandise they use daily. Our source is a well established company in this market segment. The agreement is a performance oriented affiliate marketing plan that will become an important revenue generator as our user base continues to grow."

21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

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posted July 23, 2004 08:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Jumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The new PR is very encouraging!

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posted July 23, 2004 08:52     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very nice indeed. Further shows their long term value. We might not see to much movement, although we should... but still Great news. GLTA.

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Not much action today, maybe a small pm run.

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This is what I like.

Google Advertising.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Raffle

Look at the top sponsor link.

Win 1 of over 4000 prizes www.prizewise.com Utah man wins a brand new Corvette for only $21. Prizes won daily.

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Wait if you search for raffle, doesnt prizewise have to pay each time that their site shows up...might wanna just take your word for it

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Good morning everyone. I don't see where this has been posted yet. This comes from the Prizewise.com site:

Notice posted 7/23/2004

PrizeWise is happy to announce that we are now allowing cash and gift cards to be posted online. This policy change is being made to take advantage of the high demand for these items. There are strict restrictions. Cash giveaways may not be posted for more than 125% of value. Gift cards/certificates may not be posted for more than 130% of value. Other restrictions continue to apply, including ticket minimums to post. We feel these restrictions must be in place to control frenzied posting, and to ensure prizes are sufficiently posted in moderation so that there are enough buyers to close the items. A new Cash & Gift Cards category has been added to PrizeWise. It has several sub-categories. Please post your giveaway or gift certificate into the appropriate category and sub-category. It will be reviewed within 48 hours and posted if it meets our posting policies.

Notice posted 7/24/2004

PrizeWise is happy to announce that we are now allowing cash and gift cards to be posted online. This policy change is being made to take advantage of the high demand for these items. There are strict restrictions. Cash giveaways may not be posted for more than 125% of value. Gift cards/certificates may not be posted for more than 130% of value. Other restrictions continue to apply, including ticket minimums to post. We feel these restrictions must be in place to control frenzied posting, and to ensure prizes are sufficiently posted in moderation so that there are enough buyers to close the items. A new Cash & Gift Cards category has been added to PrizeWise. It has several sub-categories. Please post your giveaway or gift certificate into the appropriate category and sub-category. It will be reviewed within 48 hours and posted if it meets our posting policies. PrizeWise is also changing its posting policy on all other items by reducing the maximum posting amount to 150% of market value.

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I was just going to post that information myself. Too slow. I think it's good to see that they are closely following these raffles and can easily identify when a mistake may have been made. I've never seen a cash raffle yet, but there are plenty of gift cards going, and I may just add one to that list now.

The one thing that has surprised me is the popularity of coins and precious metals. And quite frankly, I'm getting jealous. I have posted Matrix DVD's, The Lord of the Rings DVD's, a Western Digital external hard drive, among others, and people have only entered a couple tickets. Who knew?

[This message has been edited by Acherontia styx (edited July 24, 2004).]

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quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Wait if you search for raffle, doesnt prizewise have to pay each time that their site shows up...might wanna just take your word for it

No - the google advertisement is paid ahead of time. It cost 5k a month with a minimum or 3 months that you must join.

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quote:
Originally posted by Acherontia styx:
I was just going to post that information myself. Too slow. I think it's good to see that they are closely following these raffles and can easily identify when a mistake may have been made. I've never seen a cash raffle yet, but there are plenty of gift cards going, and I may just add one to that list now.

The one thing that has surprised me is the popularity of coins and precious metals. And quite frankly, I'm getting jealous. I have posted Matrix DVD's, The Lord of the Rings DVD's, a Western Digital external hard drive, among others, and people have only entered a couple tickets. Who knew?

[This message has been edited by Acherontia styx (edited July 24, 2004).]


Most of the raffles fill up quickly when the hit the page of "ending soon"....

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