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Meshoe45
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posted July 12, 2004 09:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tat005:
Meshoe,
You need to send your crystal ball back, I think it needs to be refurbished :P


LOL, hey its the risk u take buying online! haha - I won it with 1 ticket... haha, I'm holding I was gonna sell at a peak this AM which I thought we would have and then buy back but hey - that aint happening, I'm not to worried about any drop as we did go up quite a bit the other day.

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Meshoe45
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posted July 12, 2004 09:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crystal ball said something about a trend change

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Meshoe45
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posted July 12, 2004 10:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, now that I think about it, the end of the week or next week will have some good days once they release the results in traffic increase or what not.... what do you guys think?

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posted July 12, 2004 10:22     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I still have a little TFCT and visited Prizewise, signed up and got coupons. Lots of problems IMO-I use AOL and as of last Saturday when I signed up it wasn't letting me receive any email from prizewise. Then the coupons I got were absolutely garbage. I emailed the company to express my dissatisfaction and got no response. I will call sometime in the near future when the phones are open. I am a thrifty soul and wouldn't spend $15 to buy tickets for a raffle. So I was looking for some value in the coupons. I had fast food checked (as well as other interests) and my fastfood coupon was some kind of software offer. I had 2 duplicates for the other 4 coupons and wouldn't use either offer. I am not bashing the company. I think they have the potential to be very successful. There are elements to prizewise that make it very appealing. But the coupon offers need to be better. I would have been happier to get a bunch of coupons that they have in a Sunday supplement for McDonalds or Taco Bell than what I got. So I wasn't setting the bar too high.
I read in the Worcester, MA paper that the Homeland Security Department awarded all kinds of grants to FIre Departments all over the US. That was Saturday notice of Friday awards. Will TFCT end up getting a large number of orders for its chemical seals from these grants? That is why I bought in originally.
Thanks-GLTA-IMO-Debi

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I am thinking the email issue is most likely an aol problem. I can very easily be wrong though, as I dont know much about the entire problem. I say it might be an aol problem, because aol just plain out sucks... I use aol as well, mostly just for email, and I have to say I get spam in my normal folder, and invited emails from friends in my spam folder... just a thought, the problem might be due to aol's obsesive control issues. If anyone knows what the problem really might be from please let me know.. thanks...
I am hoping we get some pr, later today or tomorrow regarding the commercials in northern california... GLTA

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realperson
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posted July 12, 2004 10:31     Click Here to See the Profile for realperson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im looking for a great PR this week about adds and number of new customers etc
and then there is allways the chance we may get regular TFCT news (GOV Contracts etc)
looking to get back in anywhere in the 10's
Like to be back today

Checked the site more tickets sold on two of my items I really get a big urge to buy more each time im there

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futuresobjective
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posted July 12, 2004 10:35     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
realperson, I am also hoping for some *real news*....

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Meshoe45
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posted July 12, 2004 11:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by realperson:
Im looking for a great PR this week about adds and number of new customers etc
and then there is allways the chance we may get regular TFCT news (GOV Contracts etc)
looking to get back in anywhere in the 10's
Like to be back today

Checked the site more tickets sold on two of my items I really get a big urge to buy more each time im there



I dont think we'll see 10's

But I def. agree every time I go I just want to get more I purchased 15 and am sticking with that, I figure if I win the house, harley, sport bike, PC, Plasma, 23" LCD monitor, and a few other things I bid on, I'd be pretty well set you know.
Oh and the gold piece for 500k

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posted July 12, 2004 11:48     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone from Northern California see the commercials yet? When you do, mention to everyone you work with that you saw them. Then, when they see them, they'll remember and possibly go to the site.

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trademark
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posted July 12, 2004 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for trademark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im pretty sure that we will close in the green today!!

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realperson
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posted July 12, 2004 12:24     Click Here to See the Profile for realperson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well looks like you all are right we are at the low point of the day
Im gonna go back in the 12's
just have a feeling about this week

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Meshoe45
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posted July 12, 2004 12:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by trademark:
Im pretty sure that we will close in the green today!!

As do I

Green this week anyway, if its not today (once we have results from the commercials.... ) GREEN

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posted July 12, 2004 18:42     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As soon as we get some PR we will deff get green. Just need some news about how their commercials are doing and we will be seeing some numbers we havent seen for weeks now. Also check out this item item I posted up. This is my first time posting, just trying it out, we will see how it goes. GLTA https://www.prizewise.com/productDetails.asp?c=&s=&sc=&id=6392

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Originally posted by stocksrgoingup:
As soon as we get some PR we will deff get green. Just need some news about how their commercials are doing and we will be seeing some numbers we havent seen for weeks now. Also check out this item item I posted up. This is my first time posting, just trying it out, we will see how it goes. GLTA https://www.prizewise.com/productDetails.asp?c=&s=&sc=&id=6392

How long ago did you post the xbox? Also does anyone know if there is a way to check when items were posted?

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stocksrgoingup
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posted July 12, 2004 19:49     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted it today. Also you can only see when its ending, cant see when it was posted.

[This message has been edited by stocksrgoingup (edited July 12, 2004).]

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braggtd
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posted July 12, 2004 20:25     Click Here to See the Profile for braggtd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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stocksrgoingup
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posted July 12, 2004 21:02     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know if anybody saw this, but as I was looking at my Prizewise account I noticed this announcement:

All Users: We apologize for the credit card processing problems that were experienced by all users on Thursday, 08 July. We began a new advertising campaign and had by far our biggest day since launching. We experienced merchant account problems and software difficulties related to sudden sales which prevented 95% of all attempted transactions from being placed. We expect the problem to be fully resolved by midday Friday, and invite users to attempt their purchases again Friday afternoon. Our Yahoo advertising begins again Friday evening, 09 July. Please call customer service with questions: 1-877-774-9394. Thank you, PrizeWise Management


This came out last Friday, very good news!!!

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posted July 12, 2004 21:12     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think customers ought to be able to select the coupons they buy from the PW website from SPECIFIC MERCHANTS rather than from a category. For example, have a variety of selections for the customer to be able to pick a coupon from the XYZ Cleaning Service just down their street in their city rather than have the customer check the 'cleaning services' category and let the customer wonder what type of cleaning service coupons will be sent to them. I understand that right now PW probably does not have that many of merchants in order to offer this but I believe that if PW were to do this in the near future, then IMO I truly believe that their business model would at the very least be as good as that of EBAY's.

Acknowledge that once a customer realizes mathematically that they can save at least a penny by seeing that they will get a coupon that they selected in their mail from PW that they will most certainly play the game. Another example; letĄŻs say a customer sees a coupon for $1.00 that gives him $1.50 off on a particular brand of diapers from Krogers. Of course, the savings of 50 cents could be an understatement of what customers in general will save. But the main point here is that the customer sees the obvious savings, and that is what spurs him to subscribe to PW. This is what I believe what sells PW. It would not just be qualitatively but also quantitatively beneficial to ALL parties, firstly the customer, then the merchant and the seller of items and lastly PW of course. And the beauty of it is (as all of you know) that all parties can see the big benefits for themselves: Customers save money from the coupons that they buy, sellers sell their items at higher than retail prices, PW gets its 25% commission and merchants attract more customers

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OilMan
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I have checked with prisewise about offering coupons for my business and the program you are discriping is available, it is up to the merchant to determine the value of his coupon. Just FYI
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Originally posted by stocksrgoingup:
I think customers ought to be able to select the coupons they buy from the PW website from SPECIFIC MERCHANTS rather than from a category. For example, have a variety of selections for the customer to be able to pick a coupon from the XYZ Cleaning Service just down their street in their city rather than have the customer check the 'cleaning services' category and let the customer wonder what type of cleaning service coupons will be sent to them. I understand that right now PW probably does not have that many of merchants in order to offer this but I believe that if PW were to do this in the near future, then IMO I truly believe that their business model would at the very least be as good as that of EBAY's.

Acknowledge that once a customer realizes mathematically that they can save at least a penny by seeing that they will get a coupon that they selected in their mail from PW that they will most certainly play the game. Another example; letĄŻs say a customer sees a coupon for $1.00 that gives him $1.50 off on a particular brand of diapers from Krogers. Of course, the savings of 50 cents could be an understatement of what customers in general will save. But the main point here is that the customer sees the obvious savings, and that is what spurs him to subscribe to PW. This is what I believe what sells PW. It would not just be qualitatively but also quantitatively beneficial to ALL parties, firstly the customer, then the merchant and the seller of items and lastly PW of course. And the beauty of it is (as all of you know) that all parties can see the big benefits for themselves: Customers save money from the coupons that they buy, sellers sell their items at higher than retail prices, PW gets its 25% commission and merchants attract more customers


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posted July 12, 2004 23:36     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so i have an idea i wanted to run by the board. It is a far out idea but what the heck. I just finished watching the home run derby were the winner got a house..or 250,000 towards a house from century 21. Next i saw a commercial for Publshing Clearing House and they are giving away a big prize at the end of Aug. So my idea is that the big ticket items will not close by deadlines causing people to repost which isnt a big thing, but lets say prizewise does some kind of match on 1 Big ticket item...sports car, house ..something big. It would be kind of like your 401k match...you but int 5 tickets on that one item and they match your 5 giving you 10 total entries. Sure they are footing half the cost just to get that item off, but then they could have news coverage on it. ...what do u all think?

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FurrySound
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The more people that know about it, the better for everyone. I think they may already have that in the works, just waiting for a little larger volume after the commercials are in full swing.

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Originally posted by baseballmaster:
Ok so i have an idea i wanted to run by the board. It is a far out idea but what the heck. I just finished watching the home run derby were the winner got a house..or 250,000 towards a house from century 21. Next i saw a commercial for Publshing Clearing House and they are giving away a big prize at the end of Aug. So my idea is that the big ticket items will not close by deadlines causing people to repost which isnt a big thing, but lets say prizewise does some kind of match on 1 Big ticket item...sports car, house ..something big. It would be kind of like your 401k match...you but int 5 tickets on that one item and they match your 5 giving you 10 total entries. Sure they are footing half the cost just to get that item off, but then they could have news coverage on it. ...what do u all think?

I think that is an awesome idea. I thought about something like that awile ago. If they did that on say the harley or something, and it sold fairly quickly that would make cnn.com. You should shoot them an email or something, just to see what they say. That would definately make the headlines somewhere. Anyways, great idea!

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jackpot
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posted July 13, 2004 06:59     Click Here to See the Profile for jackpot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone seen any of the commercials in CA yet?

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Meshoe45
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posted July 13, 2004 07:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lookin' good http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=prizewise.com

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Lookin' good http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=prizewise.com

Thats really good news!!! Means that items will me going quick and profits up. All we really need right now is some good PR.

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Meshoe45
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posted July 13, 2004 09:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stocksrgoingup:
Thats really good news!!! Means that items will me going quick and profits up. All we really need right now is some good PR.

Indeed it is.
I have no doubt in this company, if we are all addicted so is the rest of the millions of people playing.

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Breezer
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posted July 13, 2004 09:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Breezer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is it heading down? I do not understand. please enlighten me

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FurrySound
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posted July 13, 2004 10:27     Click Here to See the Profile for FurrySound     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only way to go up is to go down first, otherwise you'd already be there. So we await news on new numbers/traffic going to their site. Need to give it a couple of days for the commercials to kick in the traffic... anyone in the Northern CA area see any yet?

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Meshoe45
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posted July 13, 2004 10:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Breezer:
Why is it heading down? I do not understand. please enlighten me

You require enlightenment every day LOL

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
You require enlightenment every day LOL

yes i do

I am very needy

needy of enlightenment and needy of MONEY!

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
You require enlightenment every day LOL

but with the big dip - are you swinging it or just accumulating more?

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FurrySound
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21st Century's prizeWise Begins Marketing with New Features
Tuesday July 13, 12:15 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 13, 2004--21st Century Technologies, Inc.'s (OTC:BB TFCT.OB) portfolio investment company, prizeWise.com. has updated site functionality to handle the run up in traffic expected over the next 60 days. Steven Rinehart, President of prizeWise,Inc. advised 21st Century that many features have been overhauled, including almost 300 new subcategories added for new prizes, and an expanded frequently asked questions sections. Powerful new servers and firewalls, capable of handling, and being expanded to handle, up to 100,000 concurrent users have been shipped to prizeWise, Inc.'s London collocation facility, where they are being installed in a server cluster. New customer service reps have been trained, and new phone lines installed.
Kevin Romney, President of 21st Century Technologies, met with management, designers, programmers and employees about streamlining operations over the coming weeks and months.

Yahoo! banner advertising began Saturday, July 10, 2004, in four major sections of Yahoo!. The immediate result of these banner ads was evidenced by over 4,000 visitors at a time on the site during Saturday afternoon. 21st Century stockholders can see the new prizeWise.com ad, and other ads currently being run, at the new URL: www.prizewise.com/banners.asp. Steve Rinehart advises that prizeWise.com will be spending up to $100,000 marketing prizeWise.com on Yahoo! during the next 60 days, and will run approximately 60,000,000 impressions on various search engines. PrizeWise.com further announces it plans to begin a major advertising campaign in approximately 60 days.

Negotiations are in process between prizeWise.com and two major coupon retailers for coupon distribution on prizeWise.com, which if finalized, will improve the database and coupon selection features.

PrizeWise.com experienced a glitch in its merchant accounts on July 8, 2004, which has caused some sporadic credit card processing difficulties, notably with Discover and American Express. PrizeWise.com is resolving these issues, which should be finalized soon. Additionally, there are some issues to be resolved regarding the server cluster installation and some planned marketing is being held pending resolution of the issues.

In the coming weeks, prizeWise.com will be implementing new features, including a charitable sweepstakes section, with modified rules, and no minimum ticket amount necessary to close.

21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

Safe Harbor Statement Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements which are not historical facts contained in this press release are forward-looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties including but not limited to risks associated with the uncertainty of future financial results, regulatory approval processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing, technological changes, the effect of economic conditions and other uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

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Contact:
Troy Lovick, 702/248-1588

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Source: 21st Century Technologies

Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040713/135652_1.html

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No mention of the television ads? I wonder why that is.

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Of course you know this means we go down... :P

Sounds like they are doing the right thing to keep the sites responsive, that's the key. Lots of advertising, although they didn't mention the TV commercials maybe a separate PR after the 19th?

[EDIT: ADD] Time to buy more on the dip.
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Originally posted by FurrySound:
Of course you know this means we go down... :P

Sounds like they are doing the right thing to keep the sites responsive, that's the key. Lots of advertising, although they didn't mention the TV commercials maybe a separate PR after the 19th?

[EDIT: ADD] Time to buy more on the dip.


I seriously love this company they keep us updated all the time.
I'm still holding prob pick up some more. Great company.

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posted July 13, 2004 12:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Breezer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great news
so why is it tanking?????

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I seriously love this company they keep us updated all the time.
I'm still holding prob pick up some more. Great company.

enlighten me - good news - it goes down worse than the morning dip
why?

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"PrizeWise.com further announces it plans to begin a major advertising campaign in approximately 60 days. "

I wonder if the impatient types are selling. 60 days is a long time. For those who consider this a long-term investment --- relax, buy more, take a walk...

I plan on holding over a year.

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posted July 13, 2004 12:44     Click Here to See the Profile for futuresobjective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just as unhappy as everyone else in this... just picked up some more at 0.106. I might have been better placing an order closer to 0.10. Still though, they seem to be reving up for some major growth. I did not plan on being to long in this one, but now it looks like I just might be. I think we can expect some big things from them in the coming months. GLTA

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
"PrizeWise.com further announces it plans to begin a major advertising campaign in approximately 60 days. "

I wonder if the impatient types are selling. 60 days is a long time. For those who consider this a long-term investment --- relax, buy more, take a walk...

I plan on holding over a year.


I'm with you, can't wait to see where this thing is next summer.

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quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
"PrizeWise.com further announces it plans to begin a major advertising campaign in approximately 60 days. "

I wonder if the impatient types are selling. 60 days is a long time. For those who consider this a long-term investment --- relax, buy more, take a walk...

I plan on holding over a year.


I'm with you, can't wait to see where this thing is next summer.

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Breezer
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posted July 13, 2004 14:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Breezer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any opinions about how it will end up today?

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Originally posted by Breezer:
any opinions about how it will end up today?

.103-.106... just pray for better results tommarow.

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futuresobjective
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I say 0.106-0.109

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I say .107

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Pretty bold prediction there Bull.

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I say .107

unbelievable!

can you go ahead and predict Wednesday's close NOW! that would be a big help

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Just trying to lighten the mood guys!
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Originally posted by Breezer:
unbelievable!

can you go ahead and predict Wednesday's close NOW! that would be a big help


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Meshoe45
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posted July 14, 2004 09:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got some MOREEEEEEEEEE

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Meshoe45
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posted July 14, 2004 09:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect timing once again

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http://www.21technologies.com/opening.html

hey we have some job openings, any of you guys certified. we sure could use help on all fronts.

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