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baseballmaster
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posted June 23, 2004 01:51     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody know about the commercials? I mean they have them on the website but i thought the PR stated they would be running in the next 10 days...has it been 10 days yet? i lost track of the PRs...thanks in advance for your help

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posted June 23, 2004 08:31     Click Here to See the Profile for keithsan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--TFCT--
21st Century Technologies, Inc.'s (OTC:BB TFCT.OB)
portfolio investment company, prizeWise, Inc., announced that its
first month's activities exceeded their initial expectations. Steve
Rinehart, president of prizeWise, advised 21st Century that 116
sweepstakes closed during its first full month of operations. "This
past week alone saw a 219% increase over the previous three weeks,
with 63 closed sweepstakes," said Mr. Rinehart. "The dollar amounts of
completed sweepstakes are steadily increasing as evidenced by a 24
carat 3.1 ounce gold bar for 2,090 tickets", added Mr. Rinehart.
Mr. Rinehart additionally advised management that the total visits
are steadily increasing and that almost 500,000 visitors have visited
the site during its first month of operations. "PrizeWise.com is
continually adding refinements as evidenced by the addition of a
listing of recently closed sweepstakes accessible via the browser
button", commented Mr. Rinehart.
Kevin Romney, President of 21st Century Technologies, commented
that prizeWise is going to participate, as a representative of 21st
Century Technologies, Inc. in the upcoming Small-Cap Conference on
June 25, 2004 at the Four Seasons Hotel in Beverly Hills, CA.
Http://www.prizeWise.com is a site which sells coupons, with an
option offered to purchasers to receive tickets to enter sweepstakes
contests on the website. The value of the sweepstakes is now well over
$20,000,000. The public is invited to browse the website without
obligation.
21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company,
operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds
various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in
which it has an interest.

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Meshoe45
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posted June 23, 2004 08:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such good news, remember people take your profits if you are not in for short term. Most of the time when we have great news it gaps way up then has to go fill the gap. Gotta fill the gap to continue to move up. Just remember! Good Luck to everyone today, we have been waiting for this after bleeding the past couple dayts

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Breezer
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posted June 23, 2004 09:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Breezer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am long on TFCT. Do most of you feel that TFCT will (besides usual ups and downs)make the move to $1?

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WinsumLosesum
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posted June 23, 2004 09:16     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I am long on TFCT. Do most of you feel that TFCT will (besides usual ups and downs)make the move to $1?

If all they had was Prizewise, I'd say yes.
If all they had was the ProMag and SeaPatch, I'd say yes.
But they have both, so I guess I'd say yes, yes.

But what do I know?

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Meshoe45
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posted June 23, 2004 09:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I am long on TFCT. Do most of you feel that TFCT will (besides usual ups and downs)make the move to $1?

Only time will tell. Wait for the financials, they may be good they may be bad. The most definately should be great with the progress however, that will tell and then its off to the moon if they continue to progress how they are.

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Meshoe45
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posted June 23, 2004 09:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats up with the Bid continually going down.

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stocksrgoingup
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posted June 23, 2004 09:20     Click Here to See the Profile for stocksrgoingup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they deff will be close to a dollar pretty soon. Although today's pr might not do much, as soon as the commercials come out, this will fly.

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CuriousBull
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posted June 23, 2004 09:20     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousBull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel it will be tough but with the right advertising campaign they could definitely pull it off. They could even surpass $1 if the demand is strong enough. Ofcourse, it will only be able to reach those highs if they show outstanding financials. To reach the dollars they need to show the green, they can't reach the dollar on speculation alone unless it's backed by a hord of investors providing the necessary cash. Time will tell I guess. For the mean time, I'm holding long on this one. GLTA
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Originally posted by Breezer:
I am long on TFCT. Do most of you feel that TFCT will (besides usual ups and downs)make the move to $1?

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baseballmaster
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posted June 23, 2004 09:40     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is going on with the price

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CuriousBull
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posted June 23, 2004 09:49     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousBull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought! Perhaps the reason the pps has opened lower is because the total amount of revenue they have produced (just on raffles being closed) is a whopping $1,730.43 (this only includes the 50 that are shown on the website). This is how I came up with it:
Total Value of Prizes closed: $10,179.00
Prizewise take (17%): $1,730.43

Keeping in mind that a total of 116 sweepstakes have been closed you can use a multiplier of 1.32 which gives you revenues of $4,014.60 (based on the assumption that the dollar amounts of the prizes are similar) This excludes revenue that they are generating from their advertising space on their website. So because of this I feel they definitely need to air commercials and I hope they generate a lot of growth. I believe there are a lot of gamblers out there who don't know about prizewise but hopefully they will soon find out.

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posted June 23, 2004 09:50     Click Here to See the Profile for FJEAN2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm finally in but not with as many shares as I wanted

why the heck this thing going down?

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IN SUB-PENNY WE TRUST

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Smctbone
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posted June 23, 2004 10:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Smctbone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
Just a thought! Perhaps the reason the pps has opened lower is because the total amount of revenue they have produced (just on raffles being closed) is a whopping $1,730.43 (this only includes the 50 that are shown on the website). This is how I came up with it:
Total Value of Prizes closed: $10,179.00
Prizewise take (17%): $1,730.43

Keeping in mind that a total of 116 sweepstakes have been closed you can use a multiplier of 1.32 which gives you revenues of $4,014.60 (based on the assumption that the dollar amounts of the prizes are similar) This excludes revenue that they are generating from their advertising space on their website. So because of this I feel they definitely need to air commercials and I hope they generate a lot of growth. I believe there are a lot of gamblers out there who don't know about prizewise but hopefully they will soon find out.


You can also look at it from this perspective:
They say the total value of listed items is in excess of $20 mil. 17% of that is 3.4 mil in profits.

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Meshoe45
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posted June 23, 2004 10:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with that, there is 20Mil on the site, someones gotta win em.

Man is it down today.

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Meshoe45
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posted June 23, 2004 10:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect time to buy, lots of buying going on and we have found bottom. Only one place to go from here, and its not down!

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FurrySound
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posted June 23, 2004 11:10     Click Here to See the Profile for FurrySound     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We need one of those Sea Patches over on PCCL

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RedBullish
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posted June 23, 2004 11:14     Click Here to See the Profile for RedBullish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We'll see... today will be a big test of whether .11 will hold.

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penny-trader
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posted June 23, 2004 11:21     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this went down to fill the gap from las thursday. it is now filled and we can move on from here

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penguinking
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posted June 23, 2004 12:08     Click Here to See the Profile for penguinking     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TFCT..
commercials will be out in july they are not sure of a date but they already have a budget for it.

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pharmdman
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posted June 23, 2004 12:16     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
TFCT..
commercials will be out in july they are not sure of a date but they already have a budget for it.

penguin, where did you find that info? I emailed them, but never heard back.

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penguinking
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posted June 23, 2004 12:18     Click Here to See the Profile for penguinking     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Call their office and ask for troy lovick he is investor relations.. He is always happy to questions that he can. His exact words were i see a countdown on the board of july 1st for the commercials and he said i dont think we will make that but they will be out in july.. ...

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pharmdman
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posted June 23, 2004 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received a reply from my email to customer service at prizewise regarding the tv commercials....

"Thank you for the email. Like you, we are also exited to run the ads.
Unfortunately, there have been a few delays with running the ads. They will
hopefully start to air in the next couple of weeks. Check back with us in
the next week and we should have more information for you.

Thank you.

nw"


So, I will email them next week and see if they have anything more definite.

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baseballmaster
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posted June 23, 2004 19:58     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that was a bad day for TFCT. Sure it gives us another buying opp. but with that kind of positive news i am sure all of the investors were wondering what happened today. I mean 500,000 visitors is a lot dont you think considering the banner ads have ben running for only 1 week basically. Oh well Some Where Over the Rainbow dreams will come true with this stock in the long run. GO PRIZEWISE!!

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baseballmaster
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posted June 23, 2004 23:55     Click Here to See the Profile for baseballmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not meeting deadline for commercials might drive the PPS down to under .10...i could only hope that happens so i can pick up the motherload!! Then again i am still hoping to hit the motherload when the stock gets out of the teens....good luck all

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Meshoe45
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posted June 24, 2004 00:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Meshoe45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by baseballmaster:
not meeting deadline for commercials might drive the PPS down to under .10...i could only hope that happens so i can pick up the motherload!! Then again i am still hoping to hit the motherload when the stock gets out of the teens....good luck all


It'd be great to pick more up at these levels however, I would also like to see green.

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Bialystock
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posted June 24, 2004 00:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Bialystock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if this was posted yet, but the website was updated with a slick tutorial that walks you through the raffle process. Answers all those questions about coupons, etc, and looks very well produced and user friendly. Wish some of my other stocks used their web designer. (Not metioning any names.)

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posted June 24, 2004 01:55     Click Here to See the Profile for sharkus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bialystock:
Not sure if this was posted yet, but the website was updated with a slick tutorial that walks you through the raffle process. Answers all those questions about coupons, etc, and looks very well produced and user friendly. Wish some of my other stocks used their web designer. (Not metioning any names.)

The tutorial is actually very helpful in my opinion. I think once the commercials start airing the curious folks will come to the site. They will see the tutorial and see how easy the whole process is. Word of mouth is strong in this type of environment.

As for the web design Bialystock ... yeah I have a few companies in my portfolio that could use some help.

Good luck to all

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FurrySound
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posted June 24, 2004 08:46     Click Here to See the Profile for FurrySound     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Press Release Source: 21st Century Technologies


United States Navy's Emergency Ship Salvage Material System Purchases 21st Century Technologies' Trident Magnets for Underwater Operations
Thursday June 24, 8:30 am ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 24, 2004--The United States Navy's Naval Sea Systems Command has placed an order through their contractor, GPC, for 28 new Trident Magnet Assemblies for its Emergency Ship Salvage Material System (ESSM). ESSM is comprised of a combination of bases and complexes that provide ship salvage, pollution control and ocean engineering equipment on an emergency basis. The Trident Magnet Assemblies are manufactured by Trident Technologies, Inc., a portfolio investment company of 21st Century Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB:TFCT.OB - News)
Kevin Romney, President and CEO of 21st Century said, "To receive such an order shortly after our return from Washington, D.C. is significant. We look forward to expanding our relationship with ESSM through GPC, as we continue to explore other opportunities funded within the Department of Defense."

This latest purchase builds on a 4-year relationship between Trident and ESSM. The rare-earth permanent magnets purchased by GPC for the U.S. Navy are similar to the magnets used by ProMag and SeaPatch, Trident's efficient rupture and leak sealing systems employed by private industry. The ESSM Trident magnets are used as anchoring platforms for underwater salvage operations.

The Trident Magnet Systems are used to affix hot tap flanges for environmentally safe removal of oil from sunken ships. They are also used to mount boring machine systems used to test hull integrity. Additional uses are under study to provide magnetic solutions for the diverse challenges of underwater emergency salvage operations.

21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements which are not historical facts contained in this press release are forward-looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties including but not limited to risks associated with the uncertainty of future financial results, regulatory approval processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing, technological changes, the effect of economic conditions and other uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

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Contact:
21st Century Technologies
Investor Relations:
Troy Lovick, 702-248-1588

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Source: 21st Century Technologies

Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040624/245183_1.html

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posted June 24, 2004 08:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Leardron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
Press Release Source: 21st Century Technologies


United States Navy's Emergency Ship Salvage Material System Purchases 21st Century Technologies' Trident Magnets for Underwater Operations
Thursday June 24, 8:30 am ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 24, 2004--The United States Navy's Naval Sea Systems Command has placed an order through their contractor, GPC, for 28 new Trident Magnet Assemblies for its Emergency Ship Salvage Material System (ESSM). ESSM is comprised of a combination of bases and complexes that provide ship salvage, pollution control and ocean engineering equipment on an emergency basis. The Trident Magnet Assemblies are manufactured by Trident Technologies, Inc., a portfolio investment company of 21st Century Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB:TFCT.OB - News)
Kevin Romney, President and CEO of 21st Century said, "To receive such an order shortly after our return from Washington, D.C. is significant. We look forward to expanding our relationship with ESSM through GPC, as we continue to explore other opportunities funded within the Department of Defense."

This latest purchase builds on a 4-year relationship between Trident and ESSM. The rare-earth permanent magnets purchased by GPC for the U.S. Navy are similar to the magnets used by ProMag and SeaPatch, Trident's efficient rupture and leak sealing systems employed by private industry. The ESSM Trident magnets are used as anchoring platforms for underwater salvage operations.

The Trident Magnet Systems are used to affix hot tap flanges for environmentally safe removal of oil from sunken ships. They are also used to mount boring machine systems used to test hull integrity. Additional uses are under study to provide magnetic solutions for the diverse challenges of underwater emergency salvage operations.

21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements which are not historical facts contained in this press release are forward-looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties including but not limited to risks associated with the uncertainty of future financial results, regulatory approval processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing, technological changes, the effect of economic conditions and other uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.



I think they screwed up and got the wrong symbol.

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Leardron
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Originally posted by Leardron:

I think they screwed up and got the wrong symbol.

Oops, nevermind. My Bad. This is correct. I just didn't realize they did this kind of work too.

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WinsumLosesum
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posted June 24, 2004 08:59     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WAHOO!!! Is everybody ready for the icing on the proverbial cake???

Fantastic!!

quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
Press Release Source: 21st Century Technologies


United States Navy's Emergency Ship Salvage Material System Purchases 21st Century Technologies' Trident Magnets for Underwater Operations
Thursday June 24, 8:30 am ET


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foolio
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posted June 24, 2004 08:59     Click Here to See the Profile for foolio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What symbol?

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FurrySound
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quote:
Originally posted by Leardron:
Oops, nevermind. My Bad. This is correct. I just didn't realize they did this kind of work too.

It's ok. I think a lot of people don't know the extent of TFCT's businesses. Check it out, they know what they are doing.

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posted June 24, 2004 09:09     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leardron- That made me laugh! It reminded me of some kid saying, "Hey, the news just said Paul McCartney was in the Beatles. That must be a mistake, because we all know he was in Wings.

(Laughing WITH you, not AT you)

Glad you corrected yourself before people started calling you names! (Hey, we've all made a blooper or two, but some are more forgiving than others around here)

I, and many others no doubt, bought TFCT before we knew anything about Prizewise. This news is the start of what we've been waiting for!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Leardron:

I think they screwed up and got the wrong symbol.

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Leardron- That made me laugh! It reminded me of some kid saying, "Hey, the news just said Paul McCartney was in the Beatles. That must be a mistake, because we all know he was in Wings.

(Laughing WITH you, not AT you)

Glad you corrected yourself before people started calling you names! (Hey, we've all made a blooper or two, but some are more forgiving than others around here)

I, and many others no doubt, bought TFCT before we knew anything about Prizewise. This news is the start of what we've been waiting for!!!


thanks for understanding. I thought I better correct myself before the tar and feathers came out, LOL.

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posted June 24, 2004 09:15     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousBull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's awesome news! They finally got their foot in the door which hopefully will lead to bigger and better things! TFCT is a well diversified portfolio within itself. I hope the market responds accordingly and sends this puppy up at least 5-10%. Go TFCT!

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Now that was funny:
Leardron- That made me laugh! It reminded me of some kid saying, "Hey, the news just said Paul McCartney was in the Beatles. That must be a mistake, because we all know he was in Wings.
(Laughing WITH you, not AT you)

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quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
Now that was funny:
Leardron- That made me laugh! It reminded me of some kid saying, "Hey, the news just said Paul McCartney was in the Beatles. That must be a mistake, because we all know he was in Wings.
(Laughing WITH you, not AT you)


Couldn't have said it better myself!

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posted June 24, 2004 09:19     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait... What's that sound?

That's the sound of SERIOUS investors stepping up to the plate! This is going to bring in those who aren't particularly interested in a raffle website, but who get all tingly at the sound of "...The United States Navy's Naval Sea Systems Command has placed an order..." and "...as we continue to explore other opportunities funded within the Department of Defense..."

Ohhhh yeaaahhh!!!!

(I don't mean to imply that those who got in because of Prizewise aren't serious. I bought MORE because of Prizewise! You know what I mean.)

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posted June 24, 2004 09:24     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousBull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L2's anyone? Thanks!

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It's going up nicelY!

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This is big!!! Sales mean money!!! UPUP&AWAY!!!!

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posted June 24, 2004 10:21     Click Here to See the Profile for kbpkt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was hoping for a bigger gap and a nicer run. Oh well, can't be too greedy. Besides, the day is far from over.

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Originally posted by kbpkt:
I was hoping for a bigger gap and a nicer run. Oh well, can't be too greedy. Besides, the day is far from over.

I agree, I'll tell you, I cannot predict this stock, it does what it wants.

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I agree, I'll tell you, I cannot predict this stock, it does what it wants.


I think I used to be married to it then!! Sandy, is that you!??! Did you change your name to TFCT?!

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I think I used to be married to it then!! Sandy, is that you!??! Did you change your name to TFCT?!

LOL, well I'm married to it now, and whenever its up I have trouble selling, NEXT TIME i am selling, and then I'll pick it up cheaper.

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We also have a small gap we need to close? no? maybe?

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Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I agree, I'll tell you, I cannot predict this stock, it does what it wants.

Hey, it was a PR. I'm surprised it didn't tank out of the gate. LOL

Maybe if they report they're filing chapter 11 it will fly up

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Originally posted by Leardron:
Hey, it was a PR. I'm surprised it didn't tank out of the gate. LOL

Maybe if they report they're filing chapter 11 it will fly up


LOL

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Ok now i am starting to get mad about this. yesterdays news good...todays news even better...yet the stock looks like it will see RED again today. What do investors want from them. Anyway has anybody been keeping tack of how the auctions are going. Yesterday they raffled off the most i have seen yet...over 1k in prizes...today they will easily do the same too with some bigger prizes such as a plasma tv. making to the browse link. I keep refreshing the page and each time more tickets are purchased. GOOD NEWS with such little advertising if you ask me.

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