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Posted by GoldieStox on :

I am new here and am trying to learn all that I can. I would love any and all advice and/or suggestions, comments, tricks, and things you have learned here. Thanks so much!

Posted by elshadow on :

be patient..(most important)

Buy when it goes down not when it goes up...

and research before investing

Posted by mistikal07 on :

educate yourself. dont be greedy. learn to control your emotions. don't base your investments off of message boards. keep educating yourself. take profits. sell your losers. have a plan. create your own style of trading. set an exit and stick to it. dont chase (there will always be another stock). do the due. learn to read financial statements. dont depend on others to do your dd. look at macroeconomics (the bigger picture) as well as micro. dont fall in love with a stock. only gamble what you can afford to lose. have fun.

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

The green pills are for up days!

The red pills are for down days!

I'm not sure what the blue ones do but I
take 3 with my coffee in the morning.

P.S.
http://messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm

Posted by pharmdman on :

Very good advice so far! Let me just add this. Do NOT listen to people who say things like "sell now, I can't tell you why" or "buy now, no time to waste!" and then provide NO other details. There are many on here that try to sabotage your efforts, but just take your time and do your homework. Will that cause you to miss the boat a few times? Yes. Will that save you boatloads of money from mistakes in the long term? Yes. Now, there are also MANY people on here that are more than willing to help you learn and to guide you. They'll also be telling you to buy or to sell, but they'll provide you with research, logic, and reasons why. However, you should still follow up and verify everything presented. Do your own detective work and then make your decisions. Good Luck!

Posted by pharmdman on :

P.S. It (edit: 'I' to 'It') can be hard to do your own detective work when you're not sure what you're (edit: 'your' to 'you're') looking for, or what certain information means. ASK! Don't be shy. The good ones are always willing to help you learn!

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited June 13, 2004).]

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

P.S. P.S.
http://www.investopedia.com/categories/tradingterms.asp

Posted by pharmdman on :

Daymn! I can't type today!... time to see some sunlight! GLTA

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

I'm not sure where the other posts went
e-mail me at aol and I'll send the links
along asap.

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Never mind there they are.

Looks like it's time for a pill.

Posted by Dardadog on :

quote:
Originally posted by mistikal07:
educate yourself. dont be greedy. learn to control your emotions. don't base your investments off of message boards. keep educating yourself. take profits. sell your losers. have a plan. create your own style of trading. set an exit and stick to it. dont chase (there will always be another stock). do the due. learn to read financial statements. dont depend on others to do your dd. look at macroeconomics (the bigger picture) as well as micro. dont fall in love with a stock. only gamble what you can afford to lose. have fun.

OUTSTANDING!!! Set some rules for yourself and never waver from them. Some good information can be picked up from message boards. But don't become one of the FLOCK. Sheep are always led to slaughter. Research Research Research. Find some sites that you are comfortable with and create your own system. If you run into something you don't understand or aren't quite clear about, ask, there are many here that are willing to help.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by Dardadog on :

Here are a few sites that I use regularly. They can help keep you informed. Pennies run on news. To be into the news is to be in the know.
http://quotes.freerealtime.com/dl/frt/S
http://www.companyreporter.com/mb/
http://www.otcbb.com/
http://www.nanocaps.com/
http://stockcharts.com/education/
http://quotes.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=leep
http://www2.barchart.com/otcpa.asp?sort=&start=all&date=
http://www2.barchart.com/otcvl.asp?sort=&start=all&date=
http://www2.barchart.com/sigupg.asp?start=all&date=
http://www2.barchart.com/whotupdo.asp?sort=&date=&start=all
http://www2.barchart.com/whotupwo.asp?sort=&date=&start=all
http://www2.barchart.com/whotupmo.asp?sort=&date=&start=all
http://www2.barchart.com/otchigh.asp?&what=all&force=otchigh%2easp
http://www.wallstreetnewscast.net/index.html
http://www.tradersnation.com/
http://www.microcaptrade.com/otc/index.jsp

Good Luck.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by Dardadog on :

http://www.rookiedaytrader.com/

This has some good stuff for new traders also.
http://www.otclinks.com/

This will help you find some that you feel comfortable using.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by Penny-Trader on :

isnt viagra blue hmmmmmmm
that will helpo you hold your pickle all day

quote:
Originally posted by StonedPigeon:
The green pills are for up days!
The red pills are for down days!
I'm not sure what the blue ones do but I
take 3 with my coffee in the morning.
P.S.
http://messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Oh is that what there for

Posted by Dardadog on :

Do a "search" on individual traders here. It makes it easy to depict which posters on this board are "shepards" and which are the "sheep".

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

what about sheepdogs?

Posted by JBCak47 on :

HAVE MORE THAN ONE TRADING/BROKERAGE

I used Scottrade which is a great service, except to Pinks. OTB $12 a trade, pinks 22+ 1/2% princicpal. $500 minimum to open an account

I opened a Choicetrade.com account last week. $5 an online trade, otb or pinks.
NO Minimum to open.

Why do I need two, or why do you need two?

Because when CMKX was at .0001 Scottrade refused to allow me to buy it. I waited and finally opened an account to find that like a day before it ran up... If I had taken the time in Feb. to open another account this wouldn't be happening and I'd bea really happIER guy, not to say I am not happy. Just not as happy as a crack addict in crackland....

-John

Posted by Dardadog on :

quote:
Originally posted by StonedPigeon:
what about sheepdogs?

Did a check on you. I bring more research in a day than you have since you've been here. Guess that classifies you as "sheep".

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by Dardadog on :

As a matter of fact....can't find a solid lead out there that you've provided for a good trade alert.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

[This message has been edited by dardadog (edited June 13, 2004).]

Posted by Dardadog on :

Top right. "Search". Leave all fields empty except "Search by trader". Type in stonedpigeon. "Sheep".

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Did a check on you. I bring more research in a day than you have since you've been here. Guess that classifies you as "sheep".

--------------------------------------------

No I am classified as comic relief!

Have pickle will travel!

Posted by pharmdman on :

Well, I did a search on the QBID thread...

I didn't see any "historical" data with undermining consequenses.

I didn't see any fears from last week that were recognized.

I didn't see any confirmation of "past" issues and I surely didn't see any "salvage" attempt.

I still can't find any "concrete" "evidence" of which we've been made aware.

I only saw the "jeopardy" in posting ambiguous b/s and causing newbies to panic.

...and I CERTAINLY didn't see an explanation that everyone asked for... I only saw a similar gloom and doom post....

oh yea, I almost forgot.. the new post serves to excuse someone of the responsibility of posting b/s.

How about you StonedPigeon? Did you find any of that? Did I just miss it?

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Nope you didn't miss a thing!

Thanks

Posted by JBCak47 on :

DARADOG this isn't the same 'dog' that posted half-assed alluding information only to withhold it, after POSTING that they know SOMETHING but refuses to tell everyone else what it is? You aren't the same 'dog' are you? If so, you are really in no place to say that stonedpigeon is a sheep. In fact if this is the same 'dog' how about telling us what you know about some paid pumper.... You could have posted solid gold but after that whole crap about keeping secrets but posting information that causes panic or fear but telling us you have info and not giving it to us, I could care less about your DD. I actually enjoyed your posts upto the day you withheld what you knew but posted things that beat around it. That makes you a fraud in my book...

Don't get on SP case... you post your DD on here not to make a record of who posts more or less... Don't make this a pissing match because I am sure there are a lot of investors who have you licked, any day of the week...

-John

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

The list of people who will be getting a
pickle from me in vegas just keep getting
longer and longer!

Thanks

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Dardog who the F are you to call up Stoned like that. I re-read your message and got even more annoyed. For all you know Stoned is an eighteen year old girl who has just started out, how would he/she (I know SP is a guy but for arguments sake) have any great DD if they are new and learning... After reading that, seriously, go F yourself...

-John

Posted by pharmdman on :

quote:
Originally posted by StonedPigeon:
Nope you didn't miss a thing!

Thanks

Not a problem! Happy to do it. If someone has that much energy to do some research, perhaps he should "dig up the bone" that he's been promising.

IMO anyone who starts a thread simply to announce that they're back, just so others will come and stroke their ego, has self esteem issues.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

No problem Stoned... I too will be in Vegas, Coco pickle in one hand, craps dice in the other... Okay, when is this Vegas fiasco? Is Area 51 on the list of sites to see? Will cheap hookers,bottom shelf vodka and crappy mexican brick weed be made available to us? Now this would be serious DD work

-John

Posted by pharmdman on :

JB, remind me to stay on your good side!

Posted by Dardadog on :

Like I said. Raging Fools. Buncha Punkass Sheep.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by JBCak47 on :

"IMO anyone who starts a thread simply to announce that they're back, just so others will come and stroke their ego, has self esteem issues."

How on earth did I miss this! He made a topic post for himself, for his return. lololol...... only on the Internet can we have assumed ego's as big as are assumed C Ocks.

Seriously Pharm man, the momemnt he made that post and withheld everything but hinted at it made me terribily uneasy. He got one sorry sap to sell 1/2 his shares... I hope that guy got back in. But we are all sheep right...

-John

Posted by Dardadog on :

I'm outta here. Gonna go find some intelligent people to help.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!

DaDog

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

No problem Stoned... I too will be in Vegas, Coco pickle in one hand, craps dice in the other... Okay, when is this Vegas fiasco? Is Area 51 on the list of sites to see? Will cheap hookers,bottom shelf vodka and crappy mexican brick weed be made available to us? Now this would be serious DD work
--------------------------------------------

That's not the kinda stuff you should be
talking about to an 18yr old girl!

LMFAO

Posted by JBCak47 on :

HAHHA raging fools, yes Mr Orginal.

Again, why don't you post what you know about this 'paid pumper'.... People still attack cash however atn least he said before we sent the money he wanted a camera... What is Dogs motivation for withholding from the people that he posts the DD for... that is my point. You have things up your sleaves... You care about us so much buy posting all of this DD work, yet you will keep us all hanging out the window with QTV.... ummmm okayyyy. You make a lot of sense. Perhaps the name 'dog' is fitting of you.

-John

P.S. Don't worry as long as you dont try to scam the peeps at allstocks, I post negitive posts about you. I just get a very shady feeling from 'The dog'.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

"I'm outta here. Gonna go find some intelligent people to help."

As you get people to sell 1/2 the position with NO NEWS. Yes you are helping the newbies out. That is great to teach people. sell half when someone like me posts something on a message board. sell sell sell, I am the DOG. Anyone else finding him to be extrememly backwords? Each post you get worse and worse.

Now he is trying to help us... by withholding information from the rest of us. But no, really, he is trying to help us....

Posted by pharmdman on :

quote:
Originally posted by dardadog:
Like I said. Raging Fools. Buncha Punkass Sheep.

Actually, I think that you're pissed that we're NOT a bunch of sheep. I think you designed that little drama to drop the price and get your ass some cheap shares at everyone elses expense.

I don't think you have "concrete" anything or you'd have shared it. There are people on here that have respected you, but now you've blown that trust and you are lashing out.

If you want to be pissed at a 'raging fool", then you should go no further than your bathroom mirror.

Personally, I've never followed your stuff because I was warned early on that you yell "Fire!", everyone jumps, and when it doesn't pan out you just ignore it. Never any "I was wrongs" or "sorrys" offered up.

Bash me, don't bash me, doesn't matter to me because I see you for what you are.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Pharm,

That was a great post/points.

Concrete news, that he got BEFORE the Market Makers or Insiders did. Yes because he is that powerful and connected.

Give me a break, if he was THAT connected to the inside, he would be retired already as he would have made his powerplays years ago... QTV would be his drinking/smoking money...

He calls us sheep, but HE GOT SOMEONE TO SELL BASED ON HIS OWN 'NEWS'. But we are sheep, for not selling I guess....

I think you are right and he wanted to cause a mini-panic selloff. It didn't happen but maybe he thought it could happen, like the days we went to .0055 and .008, respectively.

Now Stoned, yes that is no way to talk to an eighteen year old girl, but this will be Vegas my amigo, anything goes (but im not drunk enough to do that!)

lol.

Now the real question is which Hotel in Vegas? Luxor, MGM grand? Can we find one that has twenty-five cent crap tables and penny slots,lol... I have been to vegas like seven times since I have been 10, its such a great place, hot as can be durring the summer, ouch!

P.S. Okay forget the brick weed, I'll come with a little MDMA, I bet Pharman knows what that is...heheh... I'd deffiantly reccommend you try MDMA at least once in your life...

-John

Posted by pharmdman on :

LOL, John...I have an old song in my head now, "... a little bit of ecstasy...." That trip don't need no travel agent!

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Anywhere in vegas is good for me, most of the
time I stay downtown.

Just once I would like to act like a high
roller.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

ahhhhh why is it the druggies always find one another,

pharmdman, STONEDpiegon (I love that name) and me... lol

MDMA was deffinantly an experince. I haven't done it in over two year though but this summer I will be running into some money, hopefully, as will you guys too. It was such a headrush, I loved that 'brain melt' feeling.

However I am now more organic than synthetic. However I still pop Oxy's here and there, and a stray Valium (the blue hearts) but that is because I dear, dear close family member has them, so he throws some at me. Have you dabbled with the dreaded OC? My brother in law made me crush two up on a spoon and swallow the two crushed up OC's.... holy tenticles Batman! I was F*ED UP!,LOL... But I am wary about those Opiates... I'll stick to the mushrooms and God's Good green herb...

LOL...HEHEH..

-John

Posted by pharmdman on :

Too many people are dying from crushing OC's ... be VERY careful! Actually, at the risk of sounding like your mother, stop doing that!

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

OC?

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Stoned, downtown huh? The Stratosphere is downtown as I recall. Now when is this assumed Trip?

-John

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Well way back when these threads started
folks were talking about a trip when the
pps hit a buck.

The strat is on the end of the strip, by
dowtown I mean freemont st.

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

woops forgot what thread i was on thats the
qbid thread i was talking about.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

SP: Oxycotin

They are realllllllly strong opiate based painkillers.

One 20mg pill, uncrushed, gives you like 10-12 of time release morphine.

He only has the 20mg ones.

I've heard that too and havent crushed two up in sometime but the last time I took a single pill I crushed it up too.

They are super addictive and I really dont recommend playing with them. It is a wicked high. I mean you can pop the pill at 10pm at night, by 11pm you are feeling it and it wont wareoff until 9-11 AM the next morning.

You also tend to throw up, or at least I did the first half a dozen or so times the next morning. It is a really sick drug.

-John

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

Well back in my younger days I would have
taken 4 and then asked you what they were
but for now I'm like you, sticking to mother
nature.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Now Pharmman;

Have you ever gotten a Dilluadid (sp?) Those things are crazy, not as bad as OC's but those pills always take like 2.5 hours to hit me and then I am buzzed stupid.

Valium's are great. My sister gives my brother in law stress so his doctor gives him an unlimited, or basically unlimited amount of valiums like 100 for a thirty day period.

Percocets are okay. My g/f loves them. That is her DOC (drug of choice) however she isn't a pill head. Not that I am one, I am just a pothead..lol... ever see Half-Baked (Dave Chappel as the black rapper: I LOVE WEED. My lawyer had sex with my moma!)

Forwhatever reason Percocet drives my girl wild. She's tried half an OC and didn't enjoy it much, she's tried the dilaudids, valium, pot. Nothing compares to her precious Percocets. Vicidin makes her sick

You know what. I have also tried Ristorol. That is some sick sleeping pill. It gives you a coma-tose like sleep. I took the pill, smoked a little and within thiry minutes was asleep. I woke up and was like 'huh'. I had no dreams, no wake ups, just pure black dead sleep. It was really weird. I felt like I had part of my nights memory erased from my mind. I would have slept thew WWIII, no doubt about it.

-John

p.s. you don't sound like my mom, you sound reasonable.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

STONED, HAHAHAHAH That is too funny

Your younger days?!?!?! What is this all about.

I thought you were a wee lad like myself. I am only twent-three... you don't have to give your age...if you don't want to

-John

P.s. I messed around with Mushrooms, growing my own once too, lololol!!!!!! Maztapec Strain... I'll never forget when I told my girl friend that for the first time. She looked at me like I was out of my mind.lolol... Keep in mind she's like three years younger and a very good girl, most of the time

I never got to do the most mind expanding drug, LSD I had the chance once when I was in HS but turned it down, at the time I wasen't a pothead and against the use of drugs, but considerd doing that one. Ohhhh well... Maybe intime for the Vegas trip... Come on guys

QUEER AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS!!!!!!

-JOHN

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Alright, all this talk makes me want to get high... I'll be back in a couple of hours.

Pharmman, SP I will speak to you boys later. The wife is at her house tonight, so I can do my stock research all night, yeahhhh babyyyyy!

Hey , if you haven't, go see Shrek Two. If you haven't seen the first Shrek go rent it tonight. Dreamworks has made it an adult/child movie. Adults will laugh, trust me...

-John

Posted by pharmdman on :

JB.

Dude you are spending WAY to much time learning about all those meds!! (pardon my mother-henning again)...

P.S. OC don't contain morphine... it's oxycodone.

Posted by GoldieStox on :

wow. i thought i was going to get help here... sounds like some of you need it more than i do.

Posted by StonedPigeon on :

What makes you say that?

3 out of 4 of the voices in my head tell
me I'm ok!

Posted by Rics1997 on :

Its not as bad as it looks. Its like a family in here sometimes and with family fights can happen. Believe it or not this board has a lot less then the others.

This is a great board and I think you can get the help you need if you read carefully the posts on the board and weed out the pumps and bashes and look for the facts. I have gotten a lot of help in here.

My picks for you to do your dd (due diligents/ research) is:

GZFX, TFCT

There are other good ones listed on this board. Go look at the other post and research each as much as possible. Go to that board and ask questions about the stock just remember that most who are in that post have the stock and give the glowing reviews so do your dd before buying. Pennies are higher in risk but also higher in returns if you are careful and pick after you know its not a scam. Never buy on a run and never hold onto a stock going down. Especially a penny, it could go to nothing real quick just ask those who bought AFRR. Sale for profits on runs and if you like that stock buy it back on the retrace. Good luck and WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, lol.

Rick

quote:
Originally posted by GoldieStox:
wow. i thought i was going to get help here... sounds like some of you need it more than i do.

Posted by GoldieStox on :

actually, i know.. this board is the best i have found. nicer folks, better info.

thanks for everything!