i guess we are doomed if people really are this STUPID
there is MORE terrorism now, not less....
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too bad he contradicted himself....
they aren't protected by the constitution cuz we keep them in Cuba....Hmmmmmm
is this just a technicality?
seems like we are having to deal with a lot of Constitutional technicalities lately.....
people are not always what they appear to be tho
i suspect somebody made a mistake...his new name is Islam....that should set off the alarms...not a crisis..LOL
locking people in jail for over 90 days without due process is tho...
i pick 90 days because we are at war....
Dr. Rice is great, saw her but, no time to listen....
Dick Cheney did it agian today....he said Kerry would retreat.....
while Bush was saying that Kerry is bad for attacking the Prez....
is this flip-flopping...LOL
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yes Dr. Rice is a Russian specialist and that may be more important than the mid-east soon....if not already..Dick Cheney did it agian today....he said Kerry would retreat.....
while Bush was saying that Kerry is bad for attacking the Prez....is this flip-flopping...LOL
yet the Prez is running on a platform of "staying the course"
i have a logical disconnect here....
we are trying to set up a democracy in a nation that is heavily weighted with Shi'a (sp) Muslims....
they are the same sect that runs Iran......
logic tells me we are not going to leave Iraq with a long-term win in my lifetime....
this thing is terrible mess, and getting worse....
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here's another logical disconnect....we are trying to set up a democracy in a nation that is heavily weighted with Shi'a (sp) Muslims....
they are the same sect that runs Iran......
logic tells me we are not going to leave Iraq with a long-term win in my lifetime....
this thing is terrible mess, and getting worse....
How is this a terrible mess?
in my opinion the real mess is that everybody is lying....and my concern is whether or not the powers that be are being honest WITH THEMSELVES.....
if we allow Iraq to have truly free elections, they MAY end up looking more like Iran than like US, does anybody in the US think that would be good?
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the questions were tough and the answers were not clear at all....
OUR interim president in Iraq made it clear HE wants Bush...
that doesn't make me inclined to vote for Bush....
Mr. Allawi is the president's supporter...BIG SHOCK.....LOL
according to the White House.. a poll taken in Iraq shows that 51% of Iraqis support the US effort in Iraq...
wow, that's a relief.....good thing it wasn't 49%
Interim Prime Minister Allawi also said that he has ALMOST 50K Iraqi troops now....
hmmmm.. the number keeps getting lower and lower....
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one thing that keeps popping up is that he apparently was a CIA and MI-6 "expert" on Iraq and may be responsible for the dis-intelligence that was presented to US and the UN on WMD....
hmmmmm
maybe this is the REAL reason the insurgents have been getting more support from the general populace over there since he was made Interim Prime Minister...
maybe they are FIGHTING HIM, not US so much????????
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Rumsfeld said today they will have the election even if they can't vote in all the parts of Iraq.....
that's like saying we could have a good election here without Florida......
hmmmmmmm.....
all the more reason to have the UN in and oversee the elections.......
i think it's important to know whether or not Allawi supplied the WMD intel to Bush and Blair too.....
Allawi is NOT a Foreign LEADER, he was put in power by Bush.......
the government there is NOT representative...
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Richard Holbrook is on the spin factor right now saying some really insightful stuff...he's a former UN amabassador...
they don't HATE freedom-that's stupid.
nobody hates freedom,
they hate not being in charge
i can't stand it when the Prez stands up and says they hate US because we are free....
and according to this news site, Allawi said 2 days ago that he gets along EXCELLENT with Syria...
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/040921/2004092106.html
which is it?????
we are being lied to NON-STOP
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Can you get along with a country or with the leader of a country and still have wackos crossing the border?- I think so.
Whos that cheese head from NBC harrassing the pres. yesterday.....he got all heated asking the question a second time-LOL saying pres didnt answer question but, it was a yes or no answer. He did say NO.
what % of america doesnt vote, i still think we should hold elections. obviously the first few are going to be disrupted, hell they get disrupted in spain......
i should qualify that with this, i was in the provinces, not Manilla when i saw the violence. PI is a beautiful country with beautiful people i was not bing judgemental of THEM, i think we take for GRANTED just how good our system HAS been.....
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March 24, 2004
American Conservatives Misread the Spanish Election
by Ted Galen Carpenter
Ted Galen Carpenter is vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute and is the author or editor of 15 books on international affairs, including Peace & Freedom: Foreign Policy for a Constitutional Republic.
Seldom has mythology arisen so quickly about an event as it has with regard to the election results in Spain. Hordes of conservative pundits in the United States have rushed to condemn the unexpected defeat of the right-wing Popular Party as a vote for the appeasement of terrorism. According to the conservative conventional wisdom, Spanish voters, in an appalling act of cowardice, reacted to the terrorist bombings in Madrid by ousting the party that had loyally supported the Bush administration's war on terror, and especially the war in Iraq.
Such an interpretation profoundly misreads the election results. Although Al Qaeda may believe that the outcome vindicates a strategy of intimidation, there is no evidence that Spanish voters intended to convey a message of appeasement. Indeed, in his first news conference, the new prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, emphasized that combating terrorism would be a top priority of his government. Spain has been resolute all along in helping the United States identify and disrupt Al Qaeda cells in that country. Now that Spanish blood has been shed on Spanish soil by the terrorists, that resolve is likely to be strengthened, not weakened.
But just because the Spanish people are determined to combat radical Islamic terrorism does not mean that they have an obligation to endorse the U.S. intervention in Iraq. The election results confirm that a majority of Spaniards make a distinction between those two missions. That is not surprising, because large majorities around the world have made a similar distinction. Indeed, it is a distinction that seems to elude few people -- except for a majority of conservatives in the United States.
Public opinion surveys before, during, and after the Iraq war showed that 80 to 90 percent of Spanish voters opposed the U.S. policy. Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's government took a great risk in defying such overwhelming sentiment by supporting the U.S. war and occupation. It should not come as a surprise that, in a healthy democratic system, a political party that arrogantly ignores the public's near consensus on an important issue may go down to defeat in the next election.
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i'll SUPPORT anybody that will shut them down...
Fox cut his speech off again...
Bush is jumping on the air to pre-empt to tell us about a school fund-raiser hmmmmmm
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NOW, if Bush wants MY vote he NEEDS to stand up publicly and DENOUNCE the Saudi's BEFORE the election, in a very meaningful way...
Kerry just went to the RIGHT, RIGHT past Bush....LOL
maybe they are starting to listen.....
The Talking Heads.... Life in Wartime...
"this ain't no party,
this ain't no disco,
this ain't no foolin' around"
i told you the liberals aren't wimps...
it's what the spin meister's try to portray them as, but i have argued with PLENTY of them... LOL
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politics is STRANGE......
just be sure YOU VOTE. if we don't get the numbers WAY up these guys will continue to walk all over us, the left and the right....
the bar is raised now, as far as Saudi goes, and that is what I want....
it really ticks me off that the politicians don't work for US anymore...
they make US work for them.....
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word for word quote from president Bush's speech today.....it's just a clip being run by Fox and CNN....
i listened to it 4 times and copied it down and re-verified it....
what does this mean???? which country? OUR COUNTRY?
so who is really being held hostage here?
is Allawi responsible for the bad WMD intel or not?
i really don't like foreigners coming into my country and telling me who to vote for....
it's bad enough we are having so much trouble with the UN.....
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Hmmm an election without Florida. No hanging chads, no dimpled chads, no holding a dozen recounts, mighty tempting. Just kidding. lol
wow! just found out that the three provinces where the vote might not take place are 25% of the population.....
that would be more like the whole east coast i think ,(ALMOST)...LOL
great election....we aren't rushing things are we...
remeber, fighting a war is about committing acts that we call crimes at home everyday....
am i anti-war? NO!!!!
has it occurred to ANYBODY besides me that the terrorists aren't trying to kill US?
that's right, sounds stupid --you are scratching your head going glassman finally lost it.... the guys in the white suits are just outside his house now, it's only a matter of time....LOL
the terrorists aren't trying to kill US!
they are trying to get US to kill each other.....
and it looks like it's working.......