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YOUR SHARES WILL BE WORTH .001 SOON I GUARANTEE JUST LOOK AT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING LATELY NOTHING POSITIVE LOOKING ABOUT THIS STOCK ANYMORE! GOOD LUCK TO ALL MY ESSO FRIENDS I'M OUT
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Thanks, Shaun, for giving up your shares at this level. Hope more people like you will do the same, so the MMs will get enough shares to make a run.
***** EESO: New valuation from an Ihub member:
******* Posted by: Trops In reply to: oneinamillion who wrote msg# 25741 Date:4/28/2008 10:51:14 PM Post #of 25769
Agree million and just as some listen to the theories of TA not being truthful(lol).Maybe they will listen to this breakdown from brikk and this earlier rev breakdown as this is higher now as we are adding revenue from the website/new contracts etc.I am not saying either one is correct.I do know we are worth more than a penney.Posted by: brikk In reply to: MOMO who wrote msg# 3617 Date:4/1/2008 9:41:00 PM Post #of 25743 EESO -- revised valuation:
i think i should revisit my previous model with this new development in mind:
as per the PR linked below, the CEO states 2008 revenues should top $8M...
X 30% margins (based on some economies of scale now) = 2.4M net profit/223M OS = .01076 EPS X 20 pe ratio = .215/share.
or this:Many listen to the share structure cronies why not the fundy cronies?lol EESO valuation update, 2009 estimates:
today's PR has shed light on EESO's client base (via the parent company), including some high-profile fortune 500 names like yum brands, and it puts the international sales we learned about from previous PRs in a very realistic and bullish context.
not only is EESO pledging to keep the OS static and to fuel their growth with private funding, but let's keep in mind they also have a global business model in commercial markets.
from a trader's standpoint, the potential for consistent PRs is highly likely imo, and this ought to assure plenty of liquidity, plus some profitable swings if played correctly. but rather than focusing entirely on the short term, today's PR would have some of us looking ahead to next year, holding a stack of shares longer term now, for a taste of that estimated $30M in 2009.
prior to today's news i wanted to avoid any valuations based on that figure, just because it felt pretty abstract, but before anyone starts tossing their shares away for a few %, perhaps we should start wrapping our brains around the concept.
please note these are just rough estimates, based on numbers that imo would be typical for this type of product portfolio and scale of distribution. let's say their margins are just 20% due to costs of expansion next year:
30 X 20% = 6M net/223 = .027 eps X 20 pe ratio = .54/share.
and here's another factor that at first glance didn't occur to me: what about the revenues of the much larger parent company, ESI? are they included in the estimates we already have for EESO's revenues? and if not, how will they affect the pps, as of today's news? we have a bit to learn, and imo it's going to be plenty of fun to find out. !!
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quote:Originally posted by TradetheCharts: Ah Shaun, thanks for your insight, if it were not for you, I'm sure none of us would have noticed.
Bad news, straight up, I think Steve Carnes was paid off in shares, which were restricted for a month.
Good news, they are sold or just about sold, and the OS and the company is NOT selling shares, regardless of what people are saying.
Carnes has nothing to do with holding this down. At least not from any direct company affiliation...
Cancellation of Consulting Agreement
WHEREAS, Enzyme Consultants Organization, Inc (the Company) was in need of assistance with planning, organization and management assistance during the formative years.
WHEREAS, Signature Leisure (SGLS) agreed to work for the Company by providing business planning, organization and management consulting services and other related activities.
NOW, THEREFORE, it is agreed as follows:
All obligations to this agreement dated April 24, 2007 are hereby cancelled with no further obligation.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have hereunto executed this Agreement on the 27th day of February 2008
By: \s\ Stephen W. Carnes, President____________ Name: Stephen W. Carnes Signature Leisure, Inc. - CEO
By: \s\ Jared Hochstedler, President_____________ Name: Jared Hochstedler Enzyme Consultants Organization, Inc. - CEO
FWIW the charts will prevail imo. When it's ready I'll be there! Look at the 50 day ma and 200 day ma, add in the lower bb moving up. Could have a nice storm brewin if all 3 can match at the same time. IF i'm pulling this wild ass guess out of my #*& we'll see soon enough.
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Time & Sales Price Size Exch Time 0.009 46500 OTO 09:42:51 0.0095 20000 OTO 09:38:27 0.0094 20000 OTO 09:38:27 0.009 87750 OTO 09:35:29 0.009 5000 OTO 09:34:46 0.009 2250 OTO 09:34:46 0.009 2750 OTO 09:30:09 0.009 2250 OTO 09:30:09 *** No dilution, no shorting - simply panic sellings, MMs took the price down to get cheap shares from panic and frustrated sellers.
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wow look at you guys now now your at .008 that is definitely a penny stock worth keeping lol lol lol good luck tradesthecharts lol lol lol
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Keep in mind we are supposed to have the caveat emptor skull and crossbones removed from pink sheets on thursday. Posts: 235 | Registered: Jan 2007
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SPECTACLES where did you here this info? I am going to miss my fellow EESO friends unless someone can give me a really really really really good reason to buy back in
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It's nobody's job to convince you to buy, shaun. That's something you are going to have to make up your own mind about.
As for me, there's enough coming down the chute in the next couple weeks for me to ride this out. Unless we close at .007, in which case I might try a flip. But not till then.
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Shaun,please do not make any move based on my input. Play you're own game. Yahoo finance,April 2 pr mentioned a thirty day wait for the change to take place. Please read that pr and make your own informed decision. GLTU
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Hey, Kirmit. Many members at Ihub have been questioning the OS based on trading volume. They don't understand that the MMs can use fake trades to create huge volume and make investors panic. When they drop the pps with huge volume, people will start to cry dilution, shorting, scam, etc. Evidence of fake tradings:
0.0076 11111 OTO 12:18:43 0.0075 11111 OTO 12:18:43
0.0075 665000 OTO 12:25:52
-- This is the only real trade, possibly a stop-loss order. The MMs took the pps down just to get this one.
The MMs have many accounts, they can just move trades between 2 accounts to create huge volume.
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quote:Originally posted by JimSC: Hey, Kirmit. Many members at Ihub have been questioning the OS based on trading volume. They don't understand that the MMs can use fake trades to create huge volume and make investors panic. When they drop the pps with huge volume, people will start to cry dilution, shorting, scam, etc. Evidence of fake tradings:
0.0076 11111 OTO 12:18:43 0.0075 11111 OTO 12:18:43
0.0075 665000 OTO 12:25:52
-- This is the only real trade, possibly a stop-loss order. The MMs took the pps down just to get this one.
The MMs have many accounts, they can just move trades between 2 accounts to create huge volume.
quote:Originally posted by SHAUN202: I don't know guys, this sounds like one more excuse after another, by the company.
what sounds like one more excuse???
the company has not made any excuses for the pps, they continue to develop leads and get contracts.
They are keeping the shareholders updated as to the new contracts.
They are shipping product and expanding the packaging facility.
And they constantly remind the shareholders that the OS is not changing just to quell the shareholder fears.
Sorry, but I don't see where the company has made any excuses, only continued to work their business as they should.
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There always seems to be an excuse to why the price keeps dropping people will tell you all the good news but not the bad news. They want you to keep your money in even though they know it is going to decrease even more .WHAT? do you think they are going to say " if i were you share holders, i would get out now" I DON'T THINK SO
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I was wondering if EESO has any say-so about who handles their stock transactions (the MMs). It seems to me that there is a whole level of unnecessary drama here, due to someone's GREED.
IMO the MMs should have no conflict of interest when dealing with our money. Aren't there rules or at least guidelines to deal with this, or is this just the way it is with the pinks?
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quote:Originally posted by SHAUN202: There always seems to be an excuse to why the price keeps dropping people will tell you all the good news but not the bad news. They want you to keep your money in even though they know it is going to decrease even more .WHAT? do you think they are going to say " if i were you share holders, i would get out now" I DON'T THINK SO
your implication was that it was the company making excuses, I'm saying that the company isn't.
If you wish to blame the people posting on a message board for one thing or another, then you should perhaps clarify that. I would tend to agree with you on it at that point, but then if you have been around the penny markets long you will find both sides of any one of these stocks are pretty adament about their positions. GLTY
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quote:Originally posted by buggywhip: I was wondering if EESO has any say-so about who handles their stock transactions (the MMs). It seems to me that there is a whole level of unnecessary drama here, due to someone's GREED.
IMO the MMs should have no conflict of interest when dealing with our money. Aren't there rules or at least guidelines to deal with this, or is this just the way it is with the pinks?
Just my opinion, First - recognize this has been in a down trend, just as UHCR has been also - a little hype here and there causing little bounces but yet - it remains in a downtrend. When rumor starts to build again you will see it in the charts, accumulation, money flow etc. here's the real thing - the MM's - from what I have seen, will play the trend also, when they see the train loading up then they won't want to be left behind and will also begin to accumulate. Watch the level IIs. When more start hopping on board then that is a "sign". You see people comment sometimes - don't fight the MM's - go with the trend. The trick in my opinion is to watch for decent entries which usually is when everyone is screamin dilution and runnin for the hills and it looks like there is no bottom - but without any MM's on the bid side you are only guessing and could end up following the train off the end of the tracks. Watch the charts and watch the stock. If there is dilution the charts will keep pointing down so imo stay away there are plenty of stock out there. When it starts hooking back up? then it's time to look more closely. IMO the MM's aren't as foolish as some may think.
Edited: I have not had the chance to look at todays charts at all yet so today is not included in my comment.
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0.0076 11111 OTO 12:18:43 0.0075 11111 OTO 12:18:43
In order to see the fact, you have to review the data of trades in sequence.
*This is the first trade under 0.008. The purpose was to collect all stop-loss market orders set between 0.008 and 0.0075. One must keep in mind that there must be many bids between 0.0079 and 0.0076. Why it filled 0.0075 with a mirror trade of 1111. The trading volume in the morning was about 2.5 M, why in the after noon it jumped to about 8 M. This is not normal. It's inflated with mirror trades and unusual large trades. This is just my opinion - it could be wrong. **** BTW, PCola. You used to say "don't believe in any body predicting a stock will go up 5X or so." Here I will predict that EESO will have a 5X run - simply becasues the pps is about 20X undervalued, the MMs have taken it down too much. This is the way MMs make money: Take pps down 20X, run it up 5X. They have done the same to COPI and WNBD. Watch it.
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quote:Originally posted by SHAUN202: There always seems to be an excuse to why the price keeps dropping people will tell you all the good news but not the bad news. They want you to keep your money in even though they know it is going to decrease even more .WHAT? do you think they are going to say " if i were you share holders, i would get out now" I DON'T THINK SO
Shaun, no one wants you to hold. In fact, I strongly advise that you sell. You're not cut out for this type of market. Go trade MicroSoft!
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LOL! "MFI...if you stare at it long enough..."
I hope you don't mean if I stare at it long enough I'll be able to see whatever I want to see. I already have a problem with that. L O freakin L!
The daily chart still needs some fixin, but it could look really nice in only a day or two. The 60-min chart has some bullish signals on it that just might give the daily the push it needs.
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No kidding kermit. I couldn't zoom in close enough for the small turn on the MFI to show up better. I do like the intra day better now also. We'll see if it can pick up some momo.
Cheers
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**** One Ihub member has threatened NITE about the irregularity of the trading volumes and fake trades, saying that he might report to SEC. NITE's compliance official has called him and promised to monitor the trading data of EESO.
So we got cleaner trades today, no fake trades, huge trades. This is close to real volume. So, we should thank that member - proactive does work. **** Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change 04/30/08 0.0090 0.0095 0.0080 0.0085 -0.0005 4118238 -5.56% 04/29/08 0.0085 0.0100 0.0075 0.0090 unch 10700400 unch% 04/28/08 0.0120 0.0120 0.0080 0.0090 -0.0010 18870301 -10.00% 04/25/08 0.0100 0.0120 0.0080 0.0100 +0.0010 17444299 +11.11% 0
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