quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Wow, I'm surprised you got as detailed an answer as you did. Though I'm curious how restricting you from buying will save them from anything other than getting their commission from you. AWful nice of them to protect you from a "manipulated stock". I assume that means that they don't allow trading on any pink sheet stocks, right? (I'm rolling my eyes right now...
I trade Pinks and OTC all the time on TDA
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Yeah, I know, thus the comment about rolling my eyes. If they are "protecting" people from potential scam stocks they shouldn't allow trading on any Pink, was my point. It was just sarcasm. Although I've since learned more about the fraud that they are claiming has affected HVLN. It's a nice story, and I believe it has happened ot other stocks, but I don't believe HVLN was "fraudulantly traded". I htink thta's just a convenient excuse.
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Wow, I'm surprised you got as detailed an answer as you did. Though I'm curious how restricting you from buying will save them from anything other than getting their commission from you. AWful nice of them to protect you from a "manipulated stock". I assume that means that they don't allow trading on any pink sheet stocks, right? (I'm rolling my eyes right now...
I trade Pinks and OTC all the time on TDA
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tex, bob, money, and others; 'is this normal', or should I say, can and will a squeeze still happen even thought it seems like the momo is gone? the other BIG plays we've heard so much about PAIV, etc.. did they happen right off the NOBO list release, or did they linger for weeks and weeks before running?
your opinions and experience are invaluable to a newB who is hanging on for the run.
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egg, i'm no expert myself, but yes the position is still good here, they still have to cover the shorts...now, when i typed that mission statement under the influence over a week ago,LOL, where tex and money questioned me on referring to it as still being shorted on the greys, what i meant there was, that some of us believe even the buys at low volume now, could just be two mm's exchanging shares trying to shake the weak hands, they are good at what they do...so they may or may not be covering a little right now...it hasnt changed the short, but maybe has a role in how hard it will squeeze...i havnt seen any reason for shareholders to be worried and anyone selling has got to be crazy...i'm not going to say anyone not buying is crazy because we just dont know how long its gonna take for this rollercoaster to jump pink, but the second it does of course i'd love to see everyone and their money pounding on this thing with good buying pressure because i believe there is a float here owned by strong hands that are not gonna shake that easy...thats a good thing for shareholders...my gtc remains seven
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PAIV had an initial spike from a low of .0007 to . 012 I think, then over the span of like 2 months slowly dropped down to .004x. then suddenly spiked to .285 (the "fair" price pre-error was .01, so about 28x the price) in like 4 or 5 days.
AWYB/HVLN jumped from .0013 to .66 over a few days, and has been sitting in the .40 range for over two months now (a chunk of that on the greys). The "fair" price after the RS was .50, so 28x that is $14.00. No, I don't expect it to approach that, but wouldn't complain if it did.
I'm hoping we still get that big jump
quote:Originally posted by Egg Inspector: tex, bob, money, and others; 'is this normal', or should I say, can and will a squeeze still happen even thought it seems like the momo is gone? the other BIG plays we've heard so much about PAIV, etc.. did they happen right off the NOBO list release, or did they linger for weeks and weeks before running?
your opinions and experience are invaluable to a newB who is hanging on for the run.
................Egg
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looks like the word is we could be pink in a couple of weeks...probably end up happening right smack in the middle of the holidays, so keep a little money available...glta
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I'm still here holding a pretty big chunk. Getting bored to death waiting for the big payday. Posts: 5508 | From: Southeastern PA | Registered: Jan 2006
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For the record, I accidentally flipped this recently. Bought 3000 shares with an order at .40 that got filled at .31. Put in an order when it dropped to .15 to sell at .35 and forgot about it. It sold a few days later.
Put in an order for 5000 shares at .20 that executed yesterday and have a sell in for some of them at .30. I'll let you know i fthey ever sell.
I still have like 25,000 that I am holding, just kind of goofing around with these other ones.
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hey P just thank god you didnt put the accidental fat finger gtc at like .035, man that would have been a bummer...lol...so yesterday ur the 4999 trade...wonder who kept the extra share...dont understand why ur thirty wouldnt be gone...do u plan to pressure the pps when this goes pink or r they tiring u out
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As soon as I see a bid and ask I'll remove the .30 sell. Like i said, just playing around at this point to keep it interesting.
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quote:Originally posted by HurricaneBob: hey P just thank god you didnt put the accidental fat finger gtc at like .035, man that would have been a bummer...lol...so yesterday ur the 4999 trade...wonder who kept the extra share...dont understand why ur thirty wouldnt be gone...do u plan to pressure the pps when this goes pink or r they tiring u out
It's not this guy, but bummer anyway:
Posted by: Bad cuda In reply to: None Date:12/18/2006 10:32:14 AM Post #of 46913
funny, i got 1 SHARE *.15 of 10k ordered.BS!!!2:05 12/15 just noticed
Cuda
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Hmm, not sure where the other thread is, but Donnie finally released news. Not sure what to make of it, but we can only hope it'll get us trading faster...
Press Release Source: Harvard Learning Centers, Inc.
Harvard Learning Centers, Inc. Announces Letter of Intent Thursday January 11, 1:25 pm ET
BOCA RATON, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 11, 2007 -- Harvard Learning Centers, Inc. (Other OTC:HVLN.PK - News) ("HLC") announces today that it has signed a letter of intent to be acquired by Cirilium Holdings, Inc. (the "Company"). The Company is a Florida corporation trading on the NASDAQ Pink Sheets (Other OTC:CIRU.PK - News). Historically, the Company was in the telephony voice over IP business but has recently acted as the holding company for development stage businesses which could benefit from the management services of the Company.
ADVERTISEMENT We anticipate closing the transaction before the end of the month. This will give us time to complete our full due diligence before finalizing the transaction. Upon completion of the transaction, HLC will become a fully owned subsidiary of the Company. The HLC shareholders will receive one share of the Company's stock for each share of HLC stock currently held by such shareholder. We are particularly enthusiastic about this transaction because HLC will enjoy the benefits of being a member of the Cirilium family while maintaining its separate focus and identity. Because the Company will not interfere with the management and direction of HLC, HLC will continue to control its own destiny. The only distinction is that HLC will be a Cirilium company and the HLC shareholders will receive stock of the Company in exchange for their HLC shares.
Mr. Platten, CEO of Harvard Learning Centers, states, "We believe that this transaction will benefit both HLC and the Company. Our primary motivation has always been the well-being of our shareholders. This is why, as per our prior announcement, the share-for share dividend for owners of shares of HLC as of December 31, 2006 will be honored. We are thus particularly enthusiastic about the exchange of the HLC shares for shares of Cirilium Holdings, Inc. because, after the proposed transaction, the HLC shareholders will be the principal shareholders of the Company."
This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain acts (such as "may," "could," "should," or "might occur"). Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.
Contact:
Contact: Harvard Learning Centers, Inc. Don Platten 561-962-4124 donplatten17*aol.com http://www.sat-act-prep.com
Source: Harvard Learning Centers, Inc.
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homer,ur on right thread,this is recent one,just no exposer here lately but still highly bashed on other boards...baggers hav decided to wait out and resist the bashing shake...u think that 10 today was real...!*#$ k m a,go back to ant&son and realize we are positioned 4 the short p o y 4 2007,tactics lie...the men that hold 20 million unr are patient 4 their settlement,not sure what they will concede,but sum thru w e sym will reach teens...why hav mm's mentioned settlements multiple times when faced with the symbol change???...pcola didnt believe the etrd's on ihub but diversive settle calls 2 me r a tactic of appearing the fat bags r doing so...they r not..this is between mm's at level we'll not know but will reap benifits...this may make paiv look like a mod sh sqz...we;ve worked this 4 4mnths & the only thing they hav on their side is impatience of the petty positions...do u think paiv 340 bagged b cuz a million sh holders were patient..b s,they bag b cuz 1 shkrz held them all...u r think peeps dump *10 LMFAO,mirror cant get out of m settle. ...this leads me 2 my ?...b 4 dilution 4 divy i herd rumor of 1 holding 20 million win fl. 2.8...what keeps this ind. in 13limit from refusal to sell creating infinitepps, destroying an mm, & going on...if 1 was 2 attempt this against a short at what point does the short refuse 2 cover and face the ftd penalties...lets b real if we eve had 4mill certs they needed but refused sell,where does this go and will share holders b compensated or would the suspension just stall us for years 4 the payoff like bcit...LAST TIME I SAY REPEAT 7 POST THIS TILL SQ STRTS,SH SH TYG 7 EVRY1 SH B BUYING SHARES THEY WILL NEVER GET
2: ART u gone but i no not out,stall tact.weak here
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Uh wow. How drunk were you when you wrote this?
And what did you say about me? I can't even figure that part out.
quote:Originally posted by HurricaneBob: homer,ur on right thread,this is recent one,just no exposer here lately but still highly bashed on other boards...baggers hav decided to wait out and resist the bashing shake...u think that 10 today was real...!*#$ k m a,go back to ant&son and realize we are positioned 4 the short p o y 4 2007,tactics lie...the men that hold 20 million unr are patient 4 their settlement,not sure what they will concede,but sum thru w e sym will reach teens...why hav mm's mentioned settlements multiple times when faced with the symbol change???...pcola didnt believe the etrd's on ihub but diversive settle calls 2 me r a tactic of appearing the fat bags r doing so...they r not..this is between mm's at level we'll not know but will reap benifits...this may make paiv look like a mod sh sqz...we;ve worked this 4 4mnths & the only thing they hav on their side is impatience of the petty positions...do u think paiv 340 bagged b cuz a million sh holders were patient..b s,they bag b cuz 1 shkrz held them all...u r think peeps dump *10 LMFAO,mirror cant get out of m settle. ...this leads me 2 my ?...b 4 dilution 4 divy i herd rumor of 1 holding 20 million win fl. 2.8...what keeps this ind. in 13limit from refusal to sell creating infinitepps, destroying an mm, & going on...if 1 was 2 attempt this against a short at what point does the short refuse 2 cover and face the ftd penalties...lets b real if we eve had 4mill certs they needed but refused sell,where does this go and will share holders b compensated or would the suspension just stall us for years 4 the payoff like bcit...LAST TIME I SAY REPEAT 7 POST THIS TILL SQ STRTS,SH SH TYG 7 EVRY1 SH B BUYING SHARES THEY WILL NEVER GET
2: ART u gone but i no not out,stall tact.weak here
h i sh g l t a
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pc, very, about 3/5...but i was referring to the 1st symbol change when etrdrs on ihub claimed to had received potential settlement calls on their gtc orders and you were not sure you believed them until i confirmed same call...
sorry for the stockbonics, but i am teaching classes glta
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I was tired of waiting and did a little research on CIRU last night. Gerald Parker is the Chairman of CIRU and holds a large piece of Royal Palm Capitol Equity specializing in leveraged buyouts and other control investments, both private and public.
Royal Palm invested in CIRU. Anyone have any prior dealings with Parker or Royal Palm? I wonder how involved Parker is on this merger. He started a credit reporting agency and sold it to equifax in the 70's. He also founded a 25 billion dollar company called Inkomi.
If he is involved in this process I am feeling alot better about waiting for everything to be hammered out. Any thoughts?
yeah, i hav sum input...Gerald made me the man i am today...if any 1 setlles it will be us
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Considering it was down to like .10 recently, I'mpretty pleased with .35. Not sure if "something's up" as some people claim when theer are a few trades in something like this, or if some gambler just threw some money on it.
let's hope it's the former.
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Ya, ton of vol on this today. Weird seeing that .35 print as it's been awhile! Actually there's been a couple.
We have to be close to trading! Still waiting for an update from Donnie boy to let us know where we stand...hopefully it comes soon!
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Ok, I'm not usually one to say this, but really, I've come over to the dark side. Something HAS to be up. Almost $100,000 traded on this today, when typically it's like $2,000 (just my WAG, didn't check into real average trade volume)
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Ya man! With over 300k in vol now, something is up for sure! Someone wants shares bad! Weeeeeeeee! Now we just need to get on Pinks!
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They just cancelled 41,000+ in trades. Volume was showing 331596, now showing 290153 and a last trade at .30.
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PCola, you've gone over to the darkside? So you think the activity is bad?
I'm not convinced it means anything, we've had one or two big volume days before and it came to nothing. Aside from the volume, there have been a large number of trades, but where the CEO doesn't seem to know anything, how much could someone else know?
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No, I meant I'm going over to the dark side in saying that I think it means something, when usually I mock people that make claims like that
quote:Originally posted by kermit42: PCola, you've gone over to the darkside? So you think the activity is bad?
I'm not convinced it means anything, we've had one or two big volume days before and it came to nothing. Aside from the volume, there have been a large number of trades, but where the CEO doesn't seem to know anything, how much could someone else know?
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From the Hub message board for HVLN : ------------------------------------------------ Dear Shareholders,
As we are well into the New Year, we wanted to recap where The Harvard Learning Centers, Inc. (“HVLN”) currently stands. We also want to take a brief look at where HVLN has been and update where it’s going so that HVLN can maintain its strategic focus. As we advised you in our last shareholder update, dated January 11, 2007, HVLN entered into a letter of intent to be acquired by Cirilium Holdings, Inc. (“Cirilium”) with a closing date of mid February. After a lot of effort spent structuring the deal, we have come to the conclusion that it does not make sense to proceed with the transaction. The key problem was the inability to obtain cooperation from the Cirilium Transfer Agent to have the amount of free-trading shares available to compensate the HVLN shareholders. As such, our only viable option at this time remains the 15c211 filing process. As we noted earlier, Glendale Securities filed a 15c211 with the NASD on behalf of HVLN. We were hoping that the business combination with Cirilium would have been essentially completed by now. Unfortunately, our only viable option at this time remains the 15c211 filing process. We had received the first set of comments and we are in the process of preparing the response thereto. As we may have mentioned, securing cooperative accountants and getting the financials together has been a real bear. Nonetheless, we expect to file such, together with the requisite financials, within the next two weeks. We will advise you when this occurs. However, to appreciate where we are, we need to step back and focus on the key factors that led to the various strategic steps we had undertaken. Throughout, our whole approach has been to try to maximize shareholder value and, most specifically, deal a mortal blow to the shorts which shorted the AWYB stock by at least 7 million shares. As you will recall, we were advised that recalling the AWYB shares was the only way to force the shorts to cover. This led to the mandatory exchange of the AWYB shares for HVLN shares. This action knocked the Company off the Pink Sheets and required that HVLN complete the 15c211 process before it can begin trading. As an intermediate step, we were able to get the Company trading on the greys through the intercession of Glendale Securities. On a positive note, we have very encouraging news regarding the actual business that HVLN is engaged in. In the next few days, we will advise you of the exciting things that are happening. Once we get through the hiccup of getting HVLN back trading, we see a very bright future ahead. Thank you for patience and we will try to update you at least once every two weeks.
Angel Love, Director of Shareholder Relations -----------------------------------------------
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Got this from ihub. Looks like it'll be awhile before we trade again, geez.
Dear Shareholders,
As we are well into the New Year, we wanted to recap where The Harvard Learning Centers, Inc. (“HVLN”) currently stands. We also want to take a brief look at where HVLN has been and update where it’s going so that HVLN can maintain its strategic focus. As we advised you in our last shareholder update, dated January 11, 2007, HVLN entered into a letter of intent to be acquired by Cirilium Holdings, Inc. (“Cirilium”) with a closing date of mid February. After a lot of effort spent structuring the deal, we have come to the conclusion that it does not make sense to proceed with the transaction. The key problem was the inability to obtain cooperation from the Cirilium Transfer Agent to have the amount of free-trading shares available to compensate the HVLN shareholders. As such, our only viable option at this time remains the 15c211 filing process. As we noted earlier, Glendale Securities filed a 15c211 with the NASD on behalf of HVLN. We were hoping that the business combination with Cirilium would have been essentially completed by now. Unfortunately, our only viable option at this time remains the 15c211 filing process. We had received the first set of comments and we are in the process of preparing the response thereto. As we may have mentioned, securing cooperative accountants and getting the financials together has been a real bear. Nonetheless, we expect to file such, together with the requisite financials, within the next two weeks. We will advise you when this occurs. However, to appreciate where we are, we need to step back and focus on the key factors that led to the various strategic steps we had undertaken. Throughout, our whole approach has been to try to maximize shareholder value and, most specifically, deal a mortal blow to the shorts which shorted the AWYB stock by at least 7 million shares. As you will recall, we were advised that recalling the AWYB shares was the only way to force the shorts to cover. This led to the mandatory exchange of the AWYB shares for HVLN shares. This action knocked the Company off the Pink Sheets and required that HVLN complete the 15c211 process before it can begin trading. As an intermediate step, we were able to get the Company trading on the greys through the intercession of Glendale Securities. On a positive note, we have very encouraging news regarding the actual business that HVLN is engaged in. In the next few days, we will advise you of the exciting things that are happening. Once we get through the hiccup of getting HVLN back trading, we see a very bright future ahead. Thank you for patience and we will try to update you at least once every two weeks.
Angel Love, Director of Shareholder Relations
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I'm trying to buy more. I'd rather wait a few weeks or months knowing there is 7 million shorts than start trading next week with no clue as to how many shorts are left.
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I'm trying to buy more. I'd rather wait a few weeks or months knowing there is 7 million shorts than start trading next week with no clue as to how many shorts are left.
Any luck with your buys??
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