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Warren buffet buys hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stock in a company without sometimes even making a single phone call to the company .
I saw RSHN go from .0004 to over a penny .
I saw USXP go from .0004 to over 4 pennies
Even the mighty Hansons beverage company that I saw go from 18 dollars to almost 200 dollars a share can't match the awesome price gains if you happen to plant yourself in the right sub-penny stocks at the right time .
No doubt about it ....no stocks on the market anywhere can ever seem to come close to the potential gains in the sub-penny stock world .
Pick the right ones at the right time and the risk are incredibly small for the incredibly high potential gains .
I am beginning to see bashers as a constant permanent part of the sub penny threads . It actually does look like some of them might be paid to bash hard on the most popular sites and possibly assist the MM's in destroying the current value and holding down the stock price . Obviously so that some can collectively buy cheap shares only to later let the stock run up and take their big gains . Eventually some of these stocks move up in share price based on their own merrits despite being heavily shorted . And continue a gradual strong climp upward in share price .
Bashing will continue on the following stocks ....but the upward share price after shorting is done is inevitable .
PAIM VWKM CWFG/JMCP AWBV SMMW
There are two other stocks with incredible potential to hit a dollar and beyond in share price ...But they must first be done with the huge numbers of daytraders in them countering the large number of investors waiting to buy in ...USXP & RSHN .
There is one other stock of interest here ..CSJJ. They are being bashed and trassed but without logic or facts .Bashers seem to be assuming things about this company rather than admit they SIMPLY DON"T KNOW . It seems unsual for a company headed in a new direction with a share price of .0001 to anounce a 150 for 1 forward split ...That is unless ....this action enables them to increase shares to aquire another company , attempt a move to the bullitin boards , increase company value and result in higher share price .....and do this all without needing or stating a reverse split .
That seems a lot more likely here ....And that means .....People buying in now at .0001 and .0002 or even .0003 could be extremely well rewarded . Hope I am right here ...And I think I am . But do your own DD and think well on any stock you might buy .
Remember ...Many people like to say all penny stocks are duds and scams ...THIS CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE TRUE . Becouse the truth is ..That MANY are scams ..NOT all of them . The reality is that the government would not allow pinks to assist if 100 % of them were frauds .
Don't be cought up in the emotions of bashers and idiots and never cunfuse them with inteligent people descussing the negatives against the positives on any given stock .
Watch the stocks I have mentioned here get bashed { over & over } . Then watch as the bashers hide under rocks as these stocks move out of .0001 levels and some increase dramatically . Don't wait a day or two and bash the stock becouse it has not moved .....Give it a little realistic time ......That said ,,,I will continue to study and research other stocks for the next low priced high potential gainers .
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These stocks are going to be on fire in 2010!!
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You are kidding right? Even if naked shorting is real there is no advantage in shorting stocks that trade at .0002 or lower. It makes no sense.
Your line of logic is much like many who buy into a stock and instead of doing a little DD blame it on Naked shorting.
Shorting VWKM would be absolute proof that someone should be locked up in an insane assylum and have the key thrown away. The problem there was massive dilution. It's trading at NB X .0001. And issuing 15% more shares as a dividend only makes the problem worse.
You also seem to confuse bashing with good DD that shows a company's true motives. It's actually pretty simple. A company on the up &up has no problem communicating with it's investor's even if the news isn't the greatest. On the other hand companies that pull fast one's use smoke and mirrors to try and hide what they are doing. Examples: PAIM, VWKM.
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Intimatrader I must say that your post was at the least verywell written and to say the least decent reading material. My friend we in this wounderful world of pennies ARE the sharks and that is why that sick little yellow Kramer sticks to pumping his large caps. What better no trespassing sign then risky waters swim at your own risk!!! Pinks are for the Quick and the POOR! As for the bashers and pumpers I bid you welcome!! Come on in and say (yes I meant say) awhile I like the noise you make and J gets a kick out of the banter!! I am hoping for a very productive four days and I will short swing and wish you all well! Oh yeah Mr. Kramer if you have any more stupid little comments for US low life risk takers with no brains log on and let's rock! Later intimatrader I will be watching for your next post have a good one Juice and Tex!
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Actually Tex duke or whatever you may want to be later. I am not really partial to the blue (not sure if it is Jersey) or the little star state. But it does make good reading if you are feeling mellow or of that mood or something.
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Tex ..Why don't you leave emotions and name calling out of it . It seems we both have our different ways of looking at information . Strong thinking and reasoning is what is needed in understaning stocks { and companies } .Everyone here has a right to post their thoughts but you can clearly see there are those that are bashers ......Becouse they have no logic or understanding in their statements . Bringing up strong negative and/or positive " factual " information helps all .Not knowing about a company and assuming the worst is laughable .....Bashers should just say " they don't know " .
Let's move forward and wish ouselves a good week That goes for you to tex ....Think positive everyone
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They are doing a 150 for 1 foward split ...Thats a fact .
And yes ....at .0001 { how could that work }.
But the fact is they are doing it . This is where our thinking differs ...Seems there is missing information .That there is something planed not put out in a PR yet .
Ealier I gave some possible examples ..But the truth is we don't know . Untill they release further information on that . To me ...they clearly have somthing planed ...and I will not do what bashers do and assume the worst from lack of info ...I need facts to complete the reasoning process .
I need to see the next series of PR's to get a better handel on exactly what is happening ..But I believe it be thus a possitive move to be proven later .
This is a chance stuation { thats why I call this a stock of interest } . As for myself .....I bought several million shares as I belive it will be imposible to pick it up near this price if I am correct on what might be happening here .
I could be wrong or could be right ...So wish me luck .
PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
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Persia ...if you meant JMCP Formerly cwfg than I agree with that ..Great pick .
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Intimatrader...I am one of the bashers of CSJJ that you have been talking about here. I have been bashing it everytime it shows back up here and with good reason... The CEO is a flat out liar (I've played his game before have you?)...the stock will go nowhere (you might get a quick pop out of it, but there will be many bagholders)...and I believe that you are a paid promoter (of all the picks out there, you are spending way too much energy on this one).
P.S. I have been on this board a long time and I have never pumped or bashed a stock except CSJJ.
quote:Originally posted by Intimatrader: Tex .....regarding CSJJ
They are doing a 150 for 1 foward split ...Thats a fact .
And yes ....at .0001 { how could that work }.
But the fact is they are doing it . This is where our thinking differs ...Seems there is missing information .That there is something planed not put out in a PR yet .
Ealier I gave some possible examples ..But the truth is we don't know . Untill they release further information on that . To me ...they clearly have somthing planed ...and I will not do what bashers do and assume the worst from lack of info ...I need facts to complete the reasoning process .
I need to see the next series of PR's to get a better handel on exactly what is happening ..But I believe it be thus a possitive move to be proven later .
This is a chance stuation { thats why I call this a stock of interest } . As for myself .....I bought several million shares as I belive it will be imposible to pick it up near this price if I am correct on what might be happening here .
I could be wrong or could be right ...So wish me luck .
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Intimatrader I'm on your side. They're a lot of traders, or investors if they want to call them selves that, who think any stock trading with three zeros after the decimal point must be scams, worthless, or ____________ (fill in the blank yourself). They get a kick out of bashing for the sake of bashing or maybe practicing some self therapy due to a major loss on that stock in the past. Since most of these stocks are either short term or sometimes long term momentum plays, their bashing does nothing but kill the momentum, even before it can happen, which is what their goal is. I don't agree with every thing Intimatrader or any one else says, but I don't go on a thread at or during a run or pre run and post negative "personal vendetta" type of information. No hard feelings with anyone, but why not concentrate on the threads of the stocks that you HAVE an interest in!!!!!!
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Stocks get bashed due to past sins. Dont think it has to have any rhyme or reason to it anymore. Besides once you've been to the yahoo message boards this is pretty much small potatoes.
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I haven't seen a bash here, yet--unless you count me being singled out for being "emotional." Lol, not sure what that emotion might be, though...perhaps mirth. Is "mirth" an emotion? dunno...
Anyway, Buck******* summarizes the CEO's history pretty accurately, as far as I can tell.
The question is remains: is it possible for 150:1 f/s at these pps levels? If the answer is yes, and it can't trade below .0001, then we have a possible geek play in the making...
If no, then it's simply more of the same ol' same ol...
quote:Originally posted by Intimatrader: Tex ..Why don't you leave emotions and name calling out of it . It seems we both have our different ways of looking at information . Strong thinking and reasoning is what is needed in understaning stocks { and companies } .Everyone here has a right to post their thoughts but you can clearly see there are those that are bashers ......Becouse they have no logic or understanding in their statements . Bringing up strong negative and/or positive " factual " information helps all .Not knowing about a company and assuming the worst is laughable .....Bashers should just say " they don't know " .
Let's move forward and wish ouselves a good week That goes for you to tex ....Think positive everyone
Since I completely disagree with your pick of VWKM, does that make me a Basher?
You speak of logic, tell me how logical it would be to add fuel to a fire. It wouldn't. If a stock is trading at .0001 do you logically believe that adding more shares will make it trade higher? Wouldn't it make more sense to buyback and retire some of those shares. It's all about supply and demand. Too much supply for the demand makes a stock/product worthless. Ever heard the phrase "A dime a dozen"? The reason CSJJ and VWKM won't buyback shares is because it will cost them money, which obviously they don't have. So whether they call it a dividend or a forward split it the same thing adding fuel to the fire.
what do you bet that both of these companies will dump more shares on the market after the F/S and Dividend.
Believe this I have done extensive DD on VWKM and it may get a pop to .0002 or even as high as .0004 but to go much higher than that, let's just say a snowball has a better chance of surviving in hell.
Your right let's keep emotion out of this and look at it logically. DD does not mean reading and believing company produced PR that cannot be verified by a secondary source.
GLTA Wally
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Interesting read, What do you consider a time period prior to to a "pre run" that is safe for any negative information about a stock? (negative information is different to me than bashing) What do you consider a "run"?
Intimatrader,
Which of these stocks that you listed did you buy into and how much research have you done on them prior to coming on allstocks? Just curious.
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Vagabond, which of these stocks do you have an interest in?
I guess I'm a multitask kind of guy. I can keep my eye on the stocks I own, of which VWKM happens to be one, watch other stocks that I think will make moves in the near future and still try to help some of the new traders steer away from the scams. VWKM turned out to be a mistake but I made the mistake and chose to take responsibility for my mistake and pass on what I have learned about the stock. Wow, what a novel idea traders sharing information in order to help one another.
Pumping a scam in order to get out with a gain or minimal loss might look good in the short run but in the long run it hurts us all. New traders burned by Scams will leave and not trade penny stocks. We will always need new traders to move the market. If we help them and they are sucessful they will bring others if we take advantage of them they will tell others to stay away.
Not every stock at .0001 is a scam but most of them lack the proper management in order to succeed and some of them are scams. A few will succeed usually after years of trail and error.
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Nice post, i should clarify my post sometimes negitive information can be a bash, depending on how and why it was used. The real bottom line is that investors that have been watching these boards for awhile start to pick out the investors that are here for only the purpose of themselves or companies which might be only 3%, this 3% are trying to suck in the new investors to there games(sometimes the new investors are these people, i am not saying that is the case here i do not know these investors) because they know that most of the ones that have been around awhile will do there homework and read the boards and then make sure that their rabbits foot, horseshoe, and four leaf clover are in place then hit the buy button.
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