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quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
Anyone here think that this will hit .001 before it hits .0016?

I would be willing to bet yes, especially if it goes to .0009, then without a doubt. When it does, I am buying some more. [Smile]

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aahahahaha
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quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
Anyone here think that this will hit .001 before it hits .0016?

I would be willing to bet yes, especially if it goes to .0009, then without a doubt. When it does, I am buying some more. [Smile]
Yeah the wife and I together will use up a significant amount of our savings into this company if they ever get that first contract, but being far more conservative than I, she's leary of any revenue projection "assumption", regardless.

I just keep telling her to keep the technology in mind because over the next 10-15 years, most utilities will have by then implemented their infrastucture for future growth using this type technology. And that in 15-20 years out, ConectiSys should have by then atleast been successful in being rewarded several contracts. I hope. [Big Grin]

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Looks like no one is playing this one today. Volume is hideous.  -
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has been for 2 days now.
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http://www.sce.com/PowerandEnvironment/ami/

What's New
Quarterly Stakeholder Briefing Meeting Scheduled for May 17, 2006, in San Francisco

AMI Career Opportunities

Senior System Design Project Manager - Job Reference #JP23362

Senior Technology Testing Project Manager - Job Reference #JP23361


Hey Gator,
Apply for the AMI jobs at SCE. Get hired, sign a contract with CNES, and we all get rich.
Is that illeagal?
I won't tell anyone.

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Hey AHD...
Sounds to me that would be a good career choice for you...I'll be waiting for the contract you get signed with SCE...Keep that between friends hahahaha

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No I can't do it. Lodi Ca. is too far. I know, lets ask Jon (Mike-e) Clogger. He'll do anything, and he is in Santa Clarita.

SCE AMI Career Opportunities

Senior System Design Project Manager - Job Reference #JP23362

Senior Technology Testing Project Manager - Job Reference #JP23361

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Very Informative report.

http://www.sce.com/NR/rdonlyres/3B10DF4B-99D4-4F91-B52D-6EA2CD236069/0/AD062_SCE 060130.pdf

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Great read AHD.

"There are challenges that need to be addressed for wide spread deployment of advanced
metering systems in the United States."


Like I said, the bottom floor. We're bound to get a few contracts down the road.

Accumulate and hold. [Big Grin]

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AHD...
Thanks for the DD...Interesting information...

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Just put in another little order for tomorrow. [Big Grin]
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AHD wrote >>>No I can't do it. Lodi Ca. is too far. I know, lets ask Jon (Mike-e) Clogger. He'll do anything, and he is in Santa Clarita.<<<

Alright, Alright, yeah I'll do anything, it's true, but can you guys at least PRETEND I'm not you're errand boy?

BTW, I have a hard time getting hired when people see I used to work the Manteca water-slides up north near you Lodi-guy. I was too old around little kids... can't shake the "pervert" stigma.

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Well you must admit that the jod titles sound more impressive then...Professional Dumpster Diver
HAhahahahahaha!

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Dumpster Diving is lucrative and exotic in other parts of the world... like Canada for example.
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hmm...where's the CNES love today? .......
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SCE's AMI link is updated
They only thing new is the quartly meeting sch May 17th, and I posted that already.


http://www.sce.com/PowerandEnvironment/ami/regulatory/stakeholderquarterly.htm

Stakeholder Quarterly Briefings

As outlined in SCE's Settlement Agreement, March 30, 2005, the Settling Parties agreed that during the implementation of the AMI Phase I activities, SCE will notice and hold quarterly meetings to brief ORA and other interested parties to this proceeding on the non-confidential aspects (e.g., meter and system requirements, technical assessment) of the Phase I activities, and allow for and consider input from ORA and interested parties on these aspects.


The key wording here, "proceeding on the non-confidential aspects." So we have to wait till CNES pulls the trigger(PR News)

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NEW JOB POSTING

another one added to the sce website

AMI Career Opportunities

Project Analyst - Job Reference #JP233391

This ball is rolling, hope it goes in CNES's pocket.

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CNES is just missing the boat, (In my opinion).

http://www.spintelligent-events.com/us-auw2006/en/virtualbooths.php

A no show at this event, with a product line that is FCC approved. Their own MR says they are in the marketing phase. What is up??

In 2006, the utility expo landscape will undergo a seismic shift...
The 2006 American Utility Week will bring together 1000+ key decision-makers from the North American utility industry. This unique platform will provide key strategic insights on the technologies and trends shaping future electric, water and gas utilities.

Make sure you attend! Diarize the dates, allocate the budget and plan to be in Atlanta in April 2006.

To receive ongoing updates throughout the year, please email your details to:
Jimina Schmidt: jimina*spintelligent.com or phone 888 559 8017.

Venue/ location:
Hyatt Regency Atlanta
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Atlanta,
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At Home Dad: Thanks for all of your DD and good posts.....Appreciated
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I think we all need to sell our shares to teach them a lesson, without us buying the dang shares they wouldn't get paid, I wish I could just not show up and people STILL invest in me... This is getting ridiculous!!!!
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CNES has not announced what their official marketing strategy is...IMO everyone needs to let them do their thing. Currently they are focusing on California - once they score there I don't think they need to necessarily go out and actively market their product to every tom dick and harry....everyone follows California...or so they say. It's like a game of dominos....knock down the first one, the rest will follow with relative ease. Patience.
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1. I agree that California is a key state.
2. I have patience, just like to ask questions.
3. Has anyone called CNES lately? What has irked me is their phone etiquette.
When they answer the phone, it is “Hello……………”
It would be nice to hear, “Hello, Conectisys Investor relations, can I help you?”
Before anyone gets upset….just try it, call them.

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661-295-6763

http://conectisys.com/contact.php

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All you can do is read monthly reports, but I would much rather have a contract now.

http://conectisys.com/Investor_Relations/Monthly_Reports/Volumes_2006/Volume_4/0 41006Montly%20ReportESQ.pdf

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quote:
All you can do is read monthly reports, but I would much rather have a contract now.
LOL, wouldn't we all!?!
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We're sitting right on the 50 moving average. Maybe we'll get a little bounce.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

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quote:
Originally posted by AtHomeDad:
1. I agree that California is a key state.
2. I have patience, just like to ask questions.
3. Has anyone called CNES lately? What has irked me is their phone etiquette.
When they answer the phone, it is “Hello……………”
It would be nice to hear, “Hello, Conectisys Investor relations, can I help you?”
Before anyone gets upset….just try it, call them.

Just tried to call their Marketing Director (Marsha) and got voicemail. I channeled through to the receptionist who answered "ConectiSys Corporation", also on voicemail. Guess their all gone for the day.

AHD I would like to think that maybe they aren't setting up at the expo because their focusing on something already in the works. [Wink] [Big Grin]

Isn't it possible that their staff is to small to spread thin. Maybe the knowledgeable individuals that ConectiSys would have needed to attend the expo to market their technology, are the very same extremely important, experienced and skilled inviduals that are needed for something more important elsewhere.

Like maybe another pilot, or in contractual negotiations with San Diego. [Big Grin] Just a thought.

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I like the way you think.
I'm in and I'm long....
It just must be all these dirty diaper fumes
going to my head.

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I don't often start up my L2 screen early...but today I did...does CNES always have so many shares traded before open? almost 5m were traded this morning before open...are they diluting?

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Good article here on MDM and San Diego G&E exactly where CNES is piloting.

http://www.utilipoint.com/issuealert/article.asp?ID=2662

Should MDM Live Within CIS? - By Patti Harper-Slaboszewicz
Daily IssueAlert
4/12/2006

Free
CIS and Advanced Billing System (ABS) vendors have traditionally provided some of the functionality of meter data management (MDM) as part of a CIS or ABS system, including framing billing determinants from interval data and validation, editing, and estimation (VEE). Advanced metering vendors also may perform some MDM functions in their head-end software, such as filtering of outage messages. Should these vendors call their products MDM? UtiliPoint maintains four key elements of MDM must be present for the product to be called MDM:

The functionality must be offered as a stand-alone product and not only as part of the vendor-specific CIS/ABS and/or AMI head-end system.
The stand-alone product must be able to accept meter readings from any meter data collection method (or the vendor must be able to develop an interface within a reasonable amount of time).
The stand-alone product must be able to interface, with two-way data sharing, with any utility legacy or vendor supplied CIS, outage management, work force management, GIS, or other key utility IT system (or the vendor must be able to develop an interface within a reasonable amount of time.)
The data must be persistent, and versioned.
Without these four key elements of MDM, all that has been accomplished is to rename a former product to catch the wave of interest in MDM. Besides CIS/ABS and AMI vendors, UtiliPoint has seen firms that engage in transaction management and billing data presentation also claim to provide MDM, and we are left asking, "If it wasn't true meter data management yesterday, what qualifies it as MDM today? How are you meeting the requirements listed above?" SAP has developed a standalone module known as Energy Data Management in order to isolate meter data from its customer care and billing system. Another CIS vendor, SPL, agreed that MDM cannot reside inside the CIS and be marketed as MDM. Guerry Waters, Senior VP of Product Management of SPL said in a recent interview with UtiliPoint,


"SPL is committed to providing MDM in ways that help utilities maximize the value of meter data to the many strategic applications that need it. Our meter data management functionality—which we provide today as an optional add-on module in our Customer Care & Billing application, but which we intend to provide as an independent module—keeps pace with emerging utility demands to interface with applications that lie both within and outside our enSUMIT product suite."
Wouldn't it be useful if other vendors would provide such transparency to the utility market? Why is it so important for MDM to be independent of CIS/ABS (or other utility IT systems) and the head-end of the AMI systems? Dawn Welch, Software Manager of the AMI Project for San Diego Gas and Electric (SDG&E), recently filed testimony with the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC), and addressed this issue:


"The future direction of SDG&E for enterprise integration is Service Oriented Architecture (SOA). SOA is an architectural style whose goal is to achieve loose coupling among interacting software agents, in our case the MDMS and the utilities legacy applications. The loose coupling of the interfaces provides SDG&E a more cost effective way to develop and maintain systems over a longer period of time. As systems change and are replaced, loose coupling allows exchange of information to translate into less impact between systems as the changes occur. SDG&E ultimately plans to use a product for its enterprise middleware (EM) that will manage integration between applications. Integration will be accomplished application-to-EM rather than the more traditional, application-to-application. The EM will be responsible for moving data between applications. The overall goals that SDG&E plans to accomplish with the EM are as follows:

Isolation from communications programming.
Robust middleware for high performance distributed application integration.
Network topology agnosticism.
Standard message queuing interface built for Company platforms.
Synchronous or asynchronous service.
End-to-end message auditing, logging and monitoring.
SDG&E believes that it is prudent to implement the EM during this project to reduce the future risk and costs of system change as new technologies emerge over the next 15-20 years and beyond."1

One of the reasons provided by SDG&E for MDM to be a stand alone product is to reduce the risk of change. With a freestanding MDM, utilities can install new functionalities and capabilities and control when and if other key systems other than MDM are changed. For example, SDG&E could decide to change the measurement interval of usage for residential customers from an hour to 15 minutes to allow for improvements in distribution automation. With an independent MDM, the billing system can be isolated from this change. This is important because, in most utilities, requiring a change in the CIS system can dramatically change the likelihood of a project going forward, and the cost to implement (because changing CIS is typically difficult and often expensive).
SDG&E is looking to make MDM the system of record for meter data for all other utility applications and to perform the VEE functions for the meter data coming in, no matter what the source of the meter data. Welch also states in her testimony that:


"A single source of data for AMI related information is essential to the roadmap SDG&E is building to achieve SDG&E operational benefits. It is anticipated that a data warehouse will be a central feature of our new MDMS and act as the source for all other utility applications. Once the data is retrieved through our new AMI technology it will undergo a VEE process designed from SDG&E's business rules and then stored in the AMI repository. The repository will contain new, historical and changed information and act as the original source of meter reads for other utility legacy systems." 2
UtiliPoint has no issue with AMI providers including VEE in their head-end software as an option. In fact, UtiliPoint has found this to be very useful in pilots of technology or dynamic rates. However, head-end software which includes VEE and accepts meter reads from only their own AMI product should not be confused with MDM (by the vendor or utilities.) Itron's MDM, for example, can draw meter data from several different AMR systems.


"The reality is that there is not at this time a one-size-fits-all AMR/AMI solution that can cost-effectively address the varying data collection needs of utilities across all service territories and customer classes," said Philip Mezey, senior vice president of Itron's Software Solutions Group. "That's why it's imperative that a true meter data management system be agnostic to the multiple collection systems that bring the data back. This ability to 'stand-alone' with respect to the collection systems, operate as a single repository for meter data of all types, scale to support large volumes of data, and interface easily with legacy utility systems are the essence of an MDM system's value. If these basic requirements are not met, it's not true meter data management."
The Figure DW-1 included in Welsh's testimony3, shows the MDMS and EM performing two-way data communication with the various possible meter data collection systems on the left and the key utility IT systems on the right. The two-way interface is important: it shows the data flow goes from MDM to the meter data collection systems as well as from CIS and other systems to MDM. In a small implementation of advanced metering, a utility can get by with one-way interfaces, and handle the feedback outside of the systems via manual processing. With the scale of millions of endpoints supplying interval data, this is not feasible.

Figure DW 10-1


For example, one of the functions that will be included in the MDM is framing the billing determinants. SDG&E is planning on offering a critical peak rebate (called "Peak Time Rebate") on a voluntary opt-out basis to residential customers and small commercial and industrial customers (< 20 kW). To bill this rate, the CIS system needs the following: total usage for the billing period and the usage reduction during the critical peak periods, as measured by comparing actual usage to the "PTR Baseline." With these two billing determinants, the CIS system can produce the critical peak rebate bill. The MDM system has to meet scalability requirements of pulling in 1.4 million sets of daily interval reads and 900,000 daily gas reads, and provide to CIS the billing determinants for roughly 70,000 electric accounts and 45,000 gas accounts, and handle all of the other ad hoc queries and other interface requirements. Scaling to this requirement is another reason why some of the functionality currently residing in CIS needs to be transferred to MDM.

SDG&E plans to pursue working with an MDM vendor as opposed to developing their own MDM product. Welch indicated that:


"After evaluating responses from SDG&E's RFP process, SDG&E has determined that there are several third party packages that meet our requirements in the area of MDMS and data integration (i.e.: analysis resulted in the 'buy' decision). SDG&E plans to further question these MDMS companies about their solutions and determine the best fit for our legacy systems and the new AMI network." 4
As the relatively new market for MDM develops, it is important for utilities and other energy providers to watch out for CIS systems and AMR head-end systems that have been repackaged as "meter data management." Be sure to ask questions about how the software was developed, what functionality was key in its construction, and the degree to which the software is captive to a single vendor's system. Watch out for those "new and improved" labels that some have slapped onto their existing products.

Anyone who would like to discuss what is and isn't MDM is welcome to join UtiliPoint at the first meeting of AMI MDM on April 24th and 25th at Metering Americas in Atlanta. Go to www.AMIMDM.com to learn more. Utilities, vendors, and consultants must pay a small annual fee to cover the costs of the workshop, but the annual fee is waived for regulators and consumer advocacy groups.


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1 Page DW-8, Chapter 10 Information Technology Systems, Prepared Supplemental, Consolidating, Superseding and Replacement Testimony of Dawn Welch, San Diego Gas & Electric Company, Application of San Diego Gas & Electric Company (U-902-E) for Adoption of an Advanced Metering Infrastructure Deployment Scenario and Associated Cost Recovery and Rate Design

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Connect the Dots!

The main comment I like in the article is:

""After evaluating responses from SDG&E's RFP process, SDG&E has determined that there are several third party packages that meet our requirements in the area of MDMS and data integration (i.e.: analysis resulted in the 'buy' decision). SDG&E plans to further question these MDMS companies about their solutions and determine the best fit for our legacy systems and the new AMI network." 4"

and we all know that in CNES's MR that they were providing data on their system for some evaluation. It is only a matter of time.

This was from CNES's March MR:
A recent request for information from our local UDC will reveal that the ConectiSys H-Net™ Network bi-directional communications cost are well below net present value when compared to manual once a month meter reading. Our research has shown on average National single monthly manual meter reads costs are 0.58; in comparison, the H-Net Meter reading system cost are about half at approximately .30 for streaming time of use data (STOUD) of 2880 meter reads in the monthly reporting period. Before the UDC can successfully integrate reliable customer service connectivity a durable and reliable AMR Infrastructure must be deployed that employs base communication functionality for demand response at similar net present value.

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I'm sure everyone likes this line,

"One of the reasons provided by SDG&E for MDM to be a stand alone product is to reduce the risk of change. With a freestanding MDM, utilities can install new functionalities and capabilities and control when and if other key systems other than MDM are changed. For example, SDG&E could decide to change the measurement interval of usage for residential customers from an hour to 15 minutes to allow for improvements in distribution automation. "

CNES already does 15 minuters [Smile]

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yup, thanks for the DD AHD. Great work! [Big Grin]
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