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THink ab out that No one is thinkin long term run , everyone is thinkin short term , they want this done now and now! wait peepz
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Does anyone know who manufactures the RFID tags they've been talking about..?
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If they can somehow incorporate them into the manufacture of luggage (as stated in a recent PR) it would make the cost negligible. That seems to be the only downside.
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Do you think a 10%..no lets say 25% fare reduction would work?
I'll guess that the 'average' fare is about $250.
That's a $62.50 reduction.
I think I read that the cost to ship baggage is something like $100 to $150 (depending on the number of bags).
So the end result is about $35 to $85 more to take your trip.
My numbers are just a guess, but any additional cost of that range could possibly result in a significant reduction in fare paying passengers.
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According to their website, USXP is a business partner with TUMI. So, we may start to see them incorporated into the upscale luggage lines in the near future.
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they are incorporating tags into humans (not UNA) so if you want to join the devil maybe there will be matching tags for us and luggage. Posts: 889 | From: Corona, CA | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by kittykash: they are incorporating tags into humans (not UNA) so if you want to join the devil maybe there will be matching tags for us and luggage.
Mark of the Beast.
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Yes, currently the cost is pretty high to use luggage Express, and that's a serious issue they need to address.
It's really just for 1st class passengers who are looking for convenience over cost. However, if they are able to secure a deal with AirNet the cost could be reduced greatly.
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sorry about that guys, don't know what happened to that company. Must have changed name and symbol. hmmmm....
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If I'm not mistaken the main security cost right now is screening passengers...not luggage.
How is separating the luggage from the passenger going reduce security costs?
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it shows up on my streamer $33.80 as last, but when clicked for chart view it comes up as invalid. I looked under old name Unova and it says no company by that name. Anyone know knew name?
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The patent for RFI tags is held by ASDX.. The company is Verichip. they are the inventors of it.
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of course it will reduce security costs. And lower gas used, lighter weight. Lost luggage problems, list goes on.
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I guess we'll get answers to questions like those when Congress takes up the issue.
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Blind - your essentially correct TSA is screening passengers and carry on luggage at most of the smaller airports. Checked baggage for the most part is the being handled by the airlines. Large airports may be different. Additionally if you have the TSA locks you dont even have to unlock the luggage. The tought is if the see something suspicious they can always open it later. My question is later than what?
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Actually every pound of weight takes fuel to move it from point A to point B.
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According to USXP they have transported over 5,000,000 pieces of luggage with loosing a single piece.
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5 million at say 2 pieces per customer would 2.5 million sales.
At $100 per sale that would be over $200,000,000 in gross revenue.
Cut the price in half or double the luggage it would still be over a $100 million in gross revenue.
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quote:Originally posted by kittykash: of course it will reduce security costs. And lower gas used, lighter weight. Lost luggage problems, list goes on.
I Have reservations about that line of reasoning. Airlines are in business to make money, they have these great big Cargo holds that are essentially wasted space if they don't contain cargo/luggage Which by the way they charge us to put stuff there. Follow that line of thinking and you see wasted space is lost revenue. Most airlines are already in trouble so I dont't see them giving up revenue. Per BMC's post, a large portion of the ticket you buy is figuring on charging you $100.00 or more per ticket for the luggage. Factor in reduction in ticket cost to consumer because they dont have luggage say only 10% on a $250.00 average ticket and I come up with average loss to the airline of $125.00 per passenger, multiply that by thousands of travelers and that is some serious bucks Delta et al are losing. Now what about screening this luggage that has been out of the travelers hands since it has been picked up by USXP. It is still going to have to be screened to prevent a reduction in security> All you have to do is look at the recent furor over the ports to know that John Q public will scream long and loud about any reduction in airport security real or imagined. So assuming you still have to have people screening where is the savings there. Now how does USXP get it to you in a reasonable time frame? Why ship it airfreight you say. Where can they ship it airfreight? Why in all those empty cargo holds. Will the airlines do that for less money? Probably not they need to make up what the lost on your ticket. So to make a profit USXP will have to charge more for the shipping than the airline originally did. So no real savings to us. The problem is we should not be trying to peddle this as "Cost Savings", What we should be doing is sellling it as the ultimate in Snob travel because that is the target market. The High rollers dont want the hassle of walking through the airport trailing luggage with the rest of us, so this appeals to them. Make it a Luxury and make it expensive and they will pay. Cadillace Escalade, Lincoln P/U trucks and Hummers aren't selling based on "cost Savings" they are selling based on Making the wealthy and affluent feel more wealthy and affluent. Keep them happy and interested and you have a market winner. JMO I hope this works because I want to be wealthy and be able to afford this service also
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cost savings would still be to airlines, it lowers their gas cost (albeit emtpy cargo space), their security costs because the security for routed luggage will be usxp's debt. Less employeed people in many areas of airline luggage burden. So would the only concern airlines have is the empty cargo hold?
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savings to us would be doubtfull. Any cost off of airline ticket would as you say be minimal, and cost to us in a service like usxp would be more than when combined as now in air ticket. Cost of freedom? peace of mind? speed of going though terminal changing for better? Yes a price to pay for TERRIOREST ACTIONS.
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quote:Originally posted by BlindMellonChitlin: Do you think a 10%..no lets say 25% fare reduction would work?
I'll guess that the 'average' fare is about $250.
That's a $62.50 reduction.
I think I read that the cost to ship baggage is something like $100 to $150 (depending on the number of bags).
So the end result is about $35 to $85 more to take your trip.
My numbers are just a guess, but any additional cost of that range could possibly result in a significant reduction in fare paying passengers.
I want to know why people think it cost $100. to $150.. to ship baggage. It sure doesn't cost that much to ship other things. But then UPS takes a week across country. Still, you are talking a couple pieces of luggage verses a company that will be set up to ship million of suit cases at once. The cost would have to be lower that $100.00
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Well I had to pay $45 to get a monitor (40 lbs) shipped to me and that was through a very efficient delivery company, UPS or FedEx, and it came by ground not by air. It took about 6 business days.
I suppose that RA will have at least as efficient a delivery system too, maybe more efficient.
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PICK UP FEE IS $40 IF YOU ARE WITHIN 40 MILES OF A MAJOR AIRPORT. OTHERWISE, UNLESS PRE-QUOTED, AND THE PICKUP IS IN EXCESS OF 40 MILES FROM THE MAJOR AIRPORT, THERE IS A SURCHARGE OF $2.00 PER MILE OVER THE INITIAL 40 MILES.
FOR DELIVERIES TRAVELING DOMESTICALLY (WITHIN THE UNITED STATES), THE MINIMUM ORDER IS $110 FOR LUGGAGE.....
If you could deliver the luggage to them it is still $1 per pound (each way as far as I can see).
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Where do people get the idea this service costs $100-$150? …. Probably from USXP's Luggage Express website. I just checked, and for one large suitcase Domestic delivery (In the U.S.) roundtrip 3-5 day delivery is $233.00 2nd day delivery is $245.00, next day delivery is $341.00.
Remember this is only one bag. I can take my luggage to the airport myself, check it in on the same plane I'm flying on and get same day delivery for no extra charge beyond My ticket. Also keep in mind my ticket costs me the same whether I have baggage or not, airlines are not going to give up revenues from luggage shipments to make me happy. So my travel cost just went up by $233.00 - $341.00 to get luggage later than if I took it myself.
Also keep in mind that you still have to have carry on baggage (unless you can go without a change of clothes for 1-5 days). That negates the supposed increased speed at the airport because people and carry on baggage will still be screened by TSA. By the way the airlines all pay the government part of the cost to provide that service. So some of the airlines supposed savings is not realized.
The only change pertains to checked baggage and that does not get screened at the entrance to the gates so again no impact on anything except initial check-in at the ticket counter might same a minute or two there . Someone was saying about lost luggage problem. I have traveled quite a bit over the years and have delayed luggage many times, never lost and in fact what most people call lost luggage is really just delayed luggage. The airline will deliver delayed luggage to your home or hotel as needed usually within 12 hours of your arrival at no cost to you. So even if they delay my luggage I will still get it within time frame for Luggage Express delivery at no charge to me. I still think the concept has merit, but savings isn't the way to sell it. It is a convenience and there is nothing wrong with that. Sell it as a luxury item and it will do very well.
To concentrate on terrorist actions also misses the mark. Remember that 911 and all the subsequent increase in screening procedures was because of Passengers that were able to circumvent inadequate or lax passenger screening not luggage screening procedures. I believe the last airliner lost as a result of terrorists placing something in checked baggage was either Pan Am 103 in Lockerbie Scotland or the French UTA airliner over Chad. I believe those tragedies occurred in 1988 or 1989. All of the rest have been as a result of passengers circumventing screening.
Again I think this idea has legs but the appeal is in convenience and as an "exclusive Service" that would definitely make me feel convenienced. If we all look at it in the clear light of day and not emotionally we have the potential to do well in the long run.
JMHO
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Tomorrow is GREEN DAY! Let's wear some green and make a LOT O' GREEN!
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