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quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
I was just looking at the corporation details for State of Nevada resident agent Tiffany Kalahiki who is agent for Gulf State Holdings, Network Teleport, LLC, etc. There are 20 or so companies listed and this agent, Tiffany, lives at the same address as Richard Shintaku (Mgr. Gulf State Holdings) as well as someone named Keone Kalahiki. Keone and Tiffany are listed as Mgr. on some of the holding companies listings. I've only looked at five or so. Am I naive but is this normal or is this normal for scamming?

I'm going to answer my own question - I guess in the film industry it's not unusual to register new companies as you start new productions/production companies. Interesting how you get a better picture of the players by going thru all the entities.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
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Originally posted by Bottomliner:
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Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
yeah the one with christopher loyde, i loved it, great movie [Smile] ... im old enough to know what it is, tho i was thiiiiiiiiiiiiiis tall when i saw it [Big Grin]

MM
Yep, that's the one. This is the original cast:

Tim Curry as Wadsworth, the butler
Eileen Brennan as Mrs. Peacock (wife of a corrupt senator)
Madeline Kahn as Mrs. White (wife of a deceased nuclear physicist)
Christopher Lloyd as Professor Plum (employee of U.N.O. W.H.O., United Nations Organization World Health Organization)
Michael McKean as Mr. Green (a homosexual state department employee)
Martin Mull as Colonel Mustard (a war profiteer)
Lesley Ann Warren as Miss Scarlet (a prostitute and madam)
Colleen Camp as Yvette, the maid
Bill Henderson as the Cop
Lee Ving as Mr. Boddy
Jane Wiedlin as The Singing Telegram Girl
Jeffrey Kramer as the Motorist
Kellye Nakahara as the Cook
Howard Hesseman as the Chief (uncredited)
The film was directed by Jonathan Lynn, who wrote the script with John Landis.

Sorry for the off topic, everyone.

i have this movie in my $3000 movie library [Big Grin] or is that 2 billion dollar library..i forget
Did you get audio with your movie library?

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Sounds like this Vince guy is no slouch.

http://music.ign.com/articles/684/684680p1.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
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Originally posted by Bottomliner:
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Originally posted by Esteban99:
Come on now, the movie's not that old. That, or I don't want to think I'm that old.

E-99
1985, more than 20 years ago.

When I was younger that would seem like "ancient times", but now ... well, I have sox older than that. [Eek!]

i think i was 7
Rub it in..............LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by mikensay:
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Originally posted by Wangdo:
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Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
yeah the one with christopher loyde, i loved it, great movie [Smile] ... im old enough to know what it is, tho i was thiiiiiiiiiiiiiis tall when i saw it [Big Grin]

MM
Yep, that's the one. This is the original cast:

Tim Curry as Wadsworth, the butler
Eileen Brennan as Mrs. Peacock (wife of a corrupt senator)
Madeline Kahn as Mrs. White (wife of a deceased nuclear physicist)
Christopher Lloyd as Professor Plum (employee of U.N.O. W.H.O., United Nations Organization World Health Organization)
Michael McKean as Mr. Green (a homosexual state department employee)
Martin Mull as Colonel Mustard (a war profiteer)
Lesley Ann Warren as Miss Scarlet (a prostitute and madam)
Colleen Camp as Yvette, the maid
Bill Henderson as the Cop
Lee Ving as Mr. Boddy
Jane Wiedlin as The Singing Telegram Girl
Jeffrey Kramer as the Motorist
Kellye Nakahara as the Cook
Howard Hesseman as the Chief (uncredited)
The film was directed by Jonathan Lynn, who wrote the script with John Landis.

Sorry for the off topic, everyone.

i have this movie in my $3000 movie library [Big Grin] or is that 2 billion dollar library..i forget
Did you get audio with your movie library?
D'OH

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lol... awsome simsons pic! on a happier note 100% growth today! yeah!!!! i know its sad to celebrate ending at .0002 from .0001 but ill take any sign of life in this stock!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
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Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
I was just looking at the corporation details for State of Nevada resident agent Tiffany Kalahiki who is agent for Gulf State Holdings, Network Teleport, LLC, etc. There are 20 or so companies listed and this agent, Tiffany, lives at the same address as Richard Shintaku (Mgr. Gulf State Holdings) as well as someone named Keone Kalahiki. Keone and Tiffany are listed as Mgr. on some of the holding companies listings. I've only looked at five or so. Am I naive but is this normal or is this normal for scamming?

I'm going to answer my own question - I guess in the film industry it's not unusual to register new companies as you start new productions/production companies. Interesting how you get a better picture of the players by going thru all the entities.


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quote:
Originally posted by Rtrng at 45:
lol... awsome simsons pic! on a happier note 100% growth today! yeah!!!! i know its sad to celebrate ending at .0002 from .0001 but ill take any sign of life in this stock!!!

Rtrng
Hey, man ... I'm with you on that. Trades going through under ONE is not a pleasant scene, so a close at TWO is a happy dance event ... even if it's only momentary. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
... yep thats a true statement, as far as i know. Some speculated that he made a deal with the mofia, IE why Fedex is the largest drug trafficer in the world (so ive been told). But who knows... accept Fred... and Vegas...

MM
And as the Vegas ads state: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."

And I believe it ... everytime I go there, my money stays behind when I return home. [Eek!]

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Posted by: lobogotti
In reply to: None
Date:2/6/2006 6:13:10 PM
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By: illuminati2012
06 Feb 2006, 05:39 PM EST
Msg. 134385 of 134385
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I have a glimmer of hope for you...

I just went over to the QTN offices in Palm Springs. You may not know, but their offices are on the third floor. I was not paying attention and got off when the elevator stopped and found I was on the second floor and the elevator door closed. Then here comes Frank walking out of an office with a man. I spoke with the other guy, outside after we left the building.

Anyway, Frank asked how I'm doing and shakes my hand. I said I was fine, but it looked like QTN was done. Frank asked why I would say that. "Because your staff is not getting paid, you had to close the studio and your stock is dead". We all got in the elevator and went to the parking garage.

When I arrived to go up, a limo was sitting in the garage, motor running, driver inside. I really paid no attention to it . But when we stepped out of the elevator, the driver got out and opened up the driver passenger door. I was curious if it was going to be Frank or the other guy who got in. It was Frank.

First Frank pulled the other guy aside and they spoke quietly for a few moments. Frank then gets in the limo and I'm just standing there looking at him in the limo. He opened his door and motioned me over. He told me I should come and see the Burbank studio, I said I really wasn't interested in doing so. I again mentioned that it looked like QBID was finished, due to the A/S, billions traded daily, the stock at no bid and I'd talked to some staff, who have not been paid.

He put out his hand and said "I will bet you right now, for the amount of the shares you own, for a value of .02, I will have this straightened out in a couple months and your stock will be up again".

I said I sold my shares in late June last year, after conversations I had with someone he had introduced me to in March, during the six days of the live event in Palm Springs. I mentioned I had sought info after the stock kept falling, after what I had just seen in PS and what he told me there, QBID should have been rising.

Frank then offered to bet $500.00 in lu of the .02 value of how many shares I had owned, I said "I did not want to bet with him, how could he overcome the A/S and pps"? He said ok and mumbled everything would be ok and I would see. I closed his door and off he went.

His limo had been backed out into the garage from the parking space, this whole time, blocking in the other guys car. When Frank pulled out, I went to talk to him. He was a caterer that had catered for Frank and was owed still from 2 months ago. He was on his cell to his wife, I think, explaining nothing had come from his visit and what Frank had told him. He was pretty bummed and knew he was going to have to keep chasing Frank.

Then I went up to the third floor. I wanted to see if the offices were open today, I had seen a few of the office staff smoking in the parking garage, so I expected them to be, but wanted to see if the doors were open for anyone to walk in, as they usually are. They were.

Troy no longer works there, the receptionists name is Christine. She originally hired on while QTN was doing it's production in Dallas. She moved to PS when the Dallas production shut down. She said everyone there had been paid and that had she not, she would not have been there today. She knew the studio had gone on hiatus for one week, but did not know that people were not getting paid, that were still owed paychecks. As far as she is aware, all is well with QTN.

If you would like to call to verify, I told her I was Illuminati and she would likely receive some phone calls.

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quote:
Originally posted by Farley:
Sounds like this Vince guy is no slouch.

http://music.ign.com/articles/684/684680p1.html

mentioned earlier gulf state and lbs having the same active and filing dates, managers and registered agent.

here's from the latest 10-K...

VALCOM, INC. (VACM) FORM 10-K
formerly: SBI COMMUNICATIONS INC
CIK 0001013453
SIC 7819
Filing Date 01/17/2006
Document Date 09/30/2005


EMPLOYEES
=========

As of September 30, 2005, the Company had 4 full-time employees, including two officers and three professional staff.

No employee of the Company is represented by a labor union or is subject to a collective bargaining agreement.
ITEM 2. DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY
===================================


PART III

ITEM 9. DIRECTORS, EXECUTIVE OFFICERS, PROMOTERS AND CONTROL PERSONS

DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE OFFICERS

Vince Vellardita. . 48 CEO/President/Chairman of the Board 2000
Richard Shintaku. . 56 Director 2003
Bonnie Nelson . . . 54 Director 2005
Sandra Markham. . . 45 Secretary/Treasurer 2005

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013453/000122752806000040/0001227528-06-000040.txt

[ February 06, 2006, 20:26: Message edited by: King Crimson ]

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quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Posted by: lobogotti
In reply to: None
Date:2/6/2006 6:13:10 PM
Post #of 11390

By: illuminati2012
06 Feb 2006, 05:39 PM EST
Msg. 134385 of 134385
Jump to msg. #
I have a glimmer of hope for you...

I just went over to the QTN offices in Palm Springs. You may not know, but their offices are on the third floor. I was not paying attention and got off when the elevator stopped and found I was on the second floor and the elevator door closed. Then here comes Frank walking out of an office with a man. I spoke with the other guy, outside after we left the building.

Anyway, Frank asked how I'm doing and shakes my hand. I said I was fine, but it looked like QTN was done. Frank asked why I would say that. "Because your staff is not getting paid, you had to close the studio and your stock is dead". We all got in the elevator and went to the parking garage.

When I arrived to go up, a limo was sitting in the garage, motor running, driver inside. I really paid no attention to it . But when we stepped out of the elevator, the driver got out and opened up the driver passenger door. I was curious if it was going to be Frank or the other guy who got in. It was Frank.

First Frank pulled the other guy aside and they spoke quietly for a few moments. Frank then gets in the limo and I'm just standing there looking at him in the limo. He opened his door and motioned me over. He told me I should come and see the Burbank studio, I said I really wasn't interested in doing so. I again mentioned that it looked like QBID was finished, due to the A/S, billions traded daily, the stock at no bid and I'd talked to some staff, who have not been paid.

He put out his hand and said "I will bet you right now, for the amount of the shares you own, for a value of .02, I will have this straightened out in a couple months and your stock will be up again".

I said I sold my shares in late June last year, after conversations I had with someone he had introduced me to in March, during the six days of the live event in Palm Springs. I mentioned I had sought info after the stock kept falling, after what I had just seen in PS and what he told me there, QBID should have been rising.

Frank then offered to bet $500.00 in lu of the .02 value of how many shares I had owned, I said "I did not want to bet with him, how could he overcome the A/S and pps"? He said ok and mumbled everything would be ok and I would see. I closed his door and off he went.

His limo had been backed out into the garage from the parking space, this whole time, blocking in the other guys car. When Frank pulled out, I went to talk to him. He was a caterer that had catered for Frank and was owed still from 2 months ago. He was on his cell to his wife, I think, explaining nothing had come from his visit and what Frank had told him. He was pretty bummed and knew he was going to have to keep chasing Frank.

Then I went up to the third floor. I wanted to see if the offices were open today, I had seen a few of the office staff smoking in the parking garage, so I expected them to be, but wanted to see if the doors were open for anyone to walk in, as they usually are. They were.

Troy no longer works there, the receptionists name is Christine. She originally hired on while QTN was doing it's production in Dallas. She moved to PS when the Dallas production shut down. She said everyone there had been paid and that had she not, she would not have been there today. She knew the studio had gone on hiatus for one week, but did not know that people were not getting paid, that were still owed paychecks. As far as she is aware, all is well with QTN.

If you would like to call to verify, I told her I was Illuminati and she would likely receive some phone calls.


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FWIW, whomever the original poster is described Q's Palm Springs accurately. The building has three floors - and Q is on three. You must enter the building through the parking garage. The receptionists name is Christine - I found that out the other day when I went by there. The rest? As usual, who knows.

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
Posted by: lobogotti
In reply to: None
Date:2/6/2006 6:13:10 PM
Post #of 11390

By: illuminati2012
06 Feb 2006, 05:39 PM EST
Msg. 134385 of 134385
Jump to msg. #
I have a glimmer of hope for you...

I just went over to the QTN offices in Palm Springs. You may not know, but their offices are on the third floor. I was not paying attention and got off when the elevator stopped and found I was on the second floor and the elevator door closed. Then here comes Frank walking out of an office with a man. I spoke with the other guy, outside after we left the building.

Anyway, Frank asked how I'm doing and shakes my hand. I said I was fine, but it looked like QTN was done. Frank asked why I would say that. "Because your staff is not getting paid, you had to close the studio and your stock is dead". We all got in the elevator and went to the parking garage.

When I arrived to go up, a limo was sitting in the garage, motor running, driver inside. I really paid no attention to it . But when we stepped out of the elevator, the driver got out and opened up the driver passenger door. I was curious if it was going to be Frank or the other guy who got in. It was Frank.

First Frank pulled the other guy aside and they spoke quietly for a few moments. Frank then gets in the limo and I'm just standing there looking at him in the limo. He opened his door and motioned me over. He told me I should come and see the Burbank studio, I said I really wasn't interested in doing so. I again mentioned that it looked like QBID was finished, due to the A/S, billions traded daily, the stock at no bid and I'd talked to some staff, who have not been paid.

He put out his hand and said "I will bet you right now, for the amount of the shares you own, for a value of .02, I will have this straightened out in a couple months and your stock will be up again".

I said I sold my shares in late June last year, after conversations I had with someone he had introduced me to in March, during the six days of the live event in Palm Springs. I mentioned I had sought info after the stock kept falling, after what I had just seen in PS and what he told me there, QBID should have been rising.

Frank then offered to bet $500.00 in lu of the .02 value of how many shares I had owned, I said "I did not want to bet with him, how could he overcome the A/S and pps"? He said ok and mumbled everything would be ok and I would see. I closed his door and off he went.

His limo had been backed out into the garage from the parking space, this whole time, blocking in the other guys car. When Frank pulled out, I went to talk to him. He was a caterer that had catered for Frank and was owed still from 2 months ago. He was on his cell to his wife, I think, explaining nothing had come from his visit and what Frank had told him. He was pretty bummed and knew he was going to have to keep chasing Frank.

Then I went up to the third floor. I wanted to see if the offices were open today, I had seen a few of the office staff smoking in the parking garage, so I expected them to be, but wanted to see if the doors were open for anyone to walk in, as they usually are. They were.

Troy no longer works there, the receptionists name is Christine. She originally hired on while QTN was doing it's production in Dallas. She moved to PS when the Dallas production shut down. She said everyone there had been paid and that had she not, she would not have been there today. She knew the studio had gone on hiatus for one week, but did not know that people were not getting paid, that were still owed paychecks. As far as she is aware, all is well with QTN.

If you would like to call to verify, I told her I was Illuminati and she would likely receive some phone calls.


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Not sure I trust this illum guy. David says he was out of the building. Wsn't he?
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quote:
Originally posted by seren:
Not sure I trust this illum guy. David says he was out of the building. Wsn't he?

I see I got your account approved. Cool.

Idk, I think DJ said he wasn't at the Burbank studios but Illuminati said that he saw Frank at Palm Springs...

So who knows...

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FWIW--->

Posted by: Yellowjacket75
In reply to: ltesprit who wrote msg# 217938
Date:2/6/2006 6:27:56 PM
Post #of 218217

Richard is not MIA, just got off the phone with him this afternoon. Just keep trying, his a very busy guy.

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mjm

Any info from Richard you can pass on?
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I'm still reading... I'll see.

He hasn't responded to me yet. I just sent him a quick email a few days ago. Ahh, well... We shall see...

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Thanks for the link, King Crimson. I resoonded to 4tune and tried to ask for it. My reply was lost.

I did call today, a young man answered and politely informed me that he didn't know anything. Christine may have been at lunch.

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quote:
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I have a glimmer of hope for you...

mj
Thanks ... this was interesting. I don't like the part about the unpaid caterer, of course, but overall it was positive.

However, we don't know if this meeting took place. If it did, we don't know if the guy remembers accurately what was said. If he does remember, we don't know if Frank told the guy the truth. If he did, we don't know if Frank can deliver on his promises. If he can, we don't know if he will.

Before anyone accuses me of losing faith in Q, remember that I prefer being rational and objective and that I question all information anyone presents. Good news or bad, I want proof. And when I have no proof that Q is "failing", I prefer to think positively instead of negatively.

This information was interesting at best.

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quote:
Originally posted by 4Tune4Me:
I was just looking at the corporation details for State of Nevada resident agent Tiffany Kalahiki who is agent for Gulf State Holdings, Network Teleport, LLC, etc. There are 20 or so companies listed and this agent, Tiffany, lives at the same address as Richard Shintaku (Mgr. Gulf State Holdings) as well as someone named Keone Kalahiki. Keone and Tiffany are listed as Mgr. on some of the holding companies listings. I've only looked at five or so. Am I naive but is this normal or is this normal for scamming?

Depends on what you are doing and why. It is actually been suggested to me by more than one account and attorney to set up multiple LLCs/Incs to cover different aspects and protect myself in this sue happy world.

Here is the example I was given most recently as it relates to real estate:

Set up company 1 - My Company, LLC
-- basically a shell
Set up company 2 - My Delivery Service, LLC
-- catering business
Set up company 3 - Cheesecakes R US
-- restaurant
Set up company 4 - Rental Extreme, LLC
-- nothing but a rental house owned by them
Set up company 5 - Rental Heaven
-- same as above

Now have all of them listed as owned by company 1 (My Company, LLC)

This does a few things.

It simplifies taxes as you pretty much only need to report on company 1 with the income/losses from companies 2-5 listed as income/expenses of company 1.

It also covers your ass so that if the people in rental property 2 (Rental Heaven) sue you for something silly it has no effect on your other rental house or your other businesses.

If I turn My Company LLC into My Comapny Inc and sell stock in it then its price is effected by anything that happens to companies 2-5. Hence the whole arguement around QTN is a wholly owned subsidary of TMM, we own TMM, QTN does well, TMM profits, we do well is accurate.

It also means that if Cheesecakes R Us above folds and my loan forfeits I, as My Company LLC, will only be partially (depending on other details but I am trying to generalize here) liable because Cheescakes R Us can file Chapter whatever and close and it really doesnt effect me in the long run because I own the company that owned them... my company is fine, one of my wholly owned subsidaries failed. My stock is still of value because of the other companies owned by my shell.

So to make a long story short - yeah I know, too late - it is not that uncommon to see what we are seeing in the way of these multiple companies deal and some people, either because they do not understand, or because they are trying to cause mass hysteria are making this quite possibly into more than it is at the moment.

Another good example that I have mentioned on more than one ocassion here is the make up of Time Warner. Time Warner cable franchises are all owned by different individuals and companies, but some are owned by Time Warner as wholly owned subsidaries. I bet if we really wanted to dig that some of the more well known TW properties would fall into this same category - HBO, CNN, Cartoon Network, DC Comics, Time, WB, New Line Cinema, AOL - look at the notation below CNN Headline news off and on. It says "a Time Warner company". It is a company owned by Time Warner... it is still its own company.

Anyway, I am not defending or making an opinion either way on the activity and rumors we are seeing and hearing all over, but I do think there are way too many contradicting storys to be placing any trust in anything or anyone - even me. Illuminati spoke to Frank, David says he is over seas? Not saying either is wrong, but one of them is or has bad info.

The main point I want to get across is this scare of the multiple companies could very well mean nothing so please dont place a ton of stock in this as being the glove that convicts... other than that nothing has changed. The stock is worthless, if it folds tomorrow, its still worthless, I see no reason (personally) to do anything but watch and wait.

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wow at .02 cents a share i would be very very happy at this point. now how frank is going to get this to go up 100 fold is another question.

im not doubting the possibility of this happening im just doubting the time frame. right now i would be beside myself if i can see that we are just out of the basement and headed to .002 again.

anyways guys today was another day of great q drama and we can count on lots more in the coming weeks hahaha. oh yeah that audit should be out anyday now i think it is still coming weeks though hahaha.

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BL, this guy (himself) posted on Allstocks back in the summer of '04, I think. Perhaps someone else will remember if his posts were accurate.

All I remember is that he and someone else were having a private meeting with Frank....


There were so many unusual posts about that time.lol

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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
BL, this guy (himself) posted on Allstocks back in the summer of '04, I think.

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And I hope he is honest and telling the truth, because the overall tone of his post was positive.

But as you know, very few of us really know any thing about anyone else here. Although I really like many posters I've met on the allstocks board, everything I "know" about them is what they are willing to share ... assuming they are telling me the truth about themselves.

Based on information I have posted about myself, you might assume that I am an "older" married man with grown children. But I just might be a 16-year-old girl with a fetish for people who invest in pinksheet stocks.

Hopefully, we will all know the truth someday. Vegas, anyone? [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by noah129:
wow at .02 cents a share i would be very very happy at this point....

Good god, noah ... you're so "obnoxiously positive" now, how could we stand you if the PPS went to TWO CENTS?

Well, I guess that's an unfair question, since the rest of us would be just as "obnoxiously positive" and you'd fit right in. [Big Grin]

The post from the guy who said he talked with Frank was interesting and hopefully has some truth in it. But true or not, we still have to question if Frank was telling the truth and if he can deliver on his promises. Still a waiting game, I'm afraid. But I'm getting used to it. [Smile]

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im growing more patient every day. in fact i have stated already that i added a few shares and now i know this may start to sound like a broken record but once again im hoping the pps does not move for a while. i want to back up the truck so to say and load in a few shares of qbid.

you see for me i want this to either really hurt and make me never play pinkies again or i want a huge payout and an early retirement haha. see ya in the trailer park or see ya in vegas.

ultimately i think i would be happy if i could just add another 70 million shares. funny to think if i had only waited i could now be buying up 320,000,000 shares yes that is 320 million hahaha. ok folks good luck to you all.

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DJ let me know when you are doing it, ill get my friend a CNN to do a spot on it in their entertainment section. We may be able to persuade my buddy Anderson Copper to show up there and broadcast his show from burbank.

I know that the people over at Viacom will be glad to cover it as well.

just let me know when you are going and i will send the tip to the media.

nothing like a little national coverage. Maybe this his how Frank plans to get Q on across the nation. lol

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IM DOING A PROTEST WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE Q STUDIOS IF THEY DONT GET THERE ACT TOGETHER..I WANT THIS POSTED EVERYWHERE..THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO READ THESE BOARDS..I WANNA MAKE IT COMPLETELEY KNOWN THAT I WILL SET UP PROTESTERS IF FRANK OLSEN DOES NOT RELEASE INFORMATION TO SHAREHOLDERS..I WANT THE WORD SPREAD.MAYBE FRANK WILL FEEL PRESSURED...IF NOT ,HES GONNA HAVE 20 PEOPLE OUTSIDE HIS DOORS PROTESTING



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OK I'm back, the super secret QBID ninja who doesn't follow this stock daily or even weekly anymore but has 3.4 million avg * .0034 like a dum bass and hopes it'll turn around or get sold for at least .0035.

What's new? I see the the daily volume is insane. Which means an even higher o/s? Do we know the exact a/s or o/s these days?

[Frown] thx for the info. The verizon deal looks groovy.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by davidjanas:
... i talked to some shareholders who got in touch with channel 9 news ... this news channel likes to investigate companys who believe are scamming people in any way .... we might use them ... atleast as ammo against frank if he does not cooperate with us.

thats a double edge sword DJ....
On one hand we feel as shareholders like we are getting screwed out of money and feel Frank is the source of all the lies and deciet everywhere. So people are doing anything they can to try and force there hand even if its not what we want to see just yet.

The other side of the sword is, the news channel makes Qbid look incredibly stupid (because they are out for ratings too) and suddenly it gets national coverage that TMM/QTN/QBID is a worthless mismanaged company and no one should invest in it ... a selffulling profecy. Your doing everything to avoid the company going down the tubes, but your actions will inevitably cause that result. Think carefully about what you do, all your actions will not necessarily have a positive affect when looking at the big picture.

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I missed this post earlier and just found it.

You've made some excellent points. I applaud shareholders for being pro-active to get Frank to communicate more effectively with his shareholders, but I also caution them to act responsibly.

Posting unproven accusations on a message board is bad enough. Making the same accusations to a news station is not only unfair and unethical, it's pretty stupid. Anything that further erodes investor confidence is a negative for anyone who has invested in Q stock.

Fortunately, most news stations will not act on such accusations due to legal (if not ethical) reasons. But as you've pointed out, news stations play the popularity game and may take a chance for the sake of higher ratings.

As I've said before, I consider everyone innocent until proven guilty ... including Frank. But show me proof that he's scamming us, and I'll tie the noose and help hoist him off the ground.

Well, enough soapboxing for now ... going to play a couple short online Holdem tournaments and go to bed. Got a feeling that tomorrow will be another long and boring day. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
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Depends on what you are doing and why. It is actually been suggested to me by more than one account and attorney to set up multiple LLCs/Incs to cover different aspects and protect myself in this sue happy world....

Thanks, Ligge. Very interesting. And proves to me how complicated corporate structuring can be ... for very logical and legitimate reasons. [Cool]

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Good idea

i have sent my message to them this evening and will continue to send them a message till i get a reply or a audit

everyone on this board should do the same thing.

even if you cut and paste the message in this thread.

it cant do anything but maybe plug their email and frustrate them into action.

keep up the good work guys pressure is always a good thing.

and David if you are going to have a protest, best set up dates and times so that everyone can attend.

i will need that info for my friend at CNN.

I will also make sure Viacom it informed as well, im sure they would love to cover the missory of thier competitors network suffering.


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I was speaking with QualityBabe and JenniferCD today and one of the things that we thought we might do was to start an email campaign to Frank asking for an updated investors page and some level of transparency. We understand that some on this board may not subscribe to the non-threatening approach but we wanted to try this. If you agree please send a courteous email to franko*qtelevision.com requesting his support. He has gotten ours.

"Frank,
Good day to you. I have been a shareholder of QBID since approximately May 28, 2004. I currently hold 8+ million shares and am down about 90% on my investment. I subscribe to the Investor's Newsletter; however, the amount of information received has been considerably less than I had hoped for. I recognize the difficulties and financial commitment to starting a new company and, as an investor in your dream I am completely supportive.

Unfortunately, the majority of information I currently get about TMM and Q television comes from certain message boards. We need your support back on our investment.

On October 31, 2005 you stated that, "The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks." and "Based upon the findings of this certified audit, senior management and the Board of Directors will immediately meet in Las Vegas on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 to implement a financial structure to further develop the company." That is the last information about the audit we received from the company.

I understand that the company is very busy successfully getting new carriers and preparing for the Gay Games. I ask, however, that you provide the shareholders with current information such as a regularly updated investor’s page and some level of transparency for the company.

Thank you for your time."



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Financial problems plague Q Television

Employees at Q Television Network, one of three cable channels aimed at gay and lesbian viewers, claim that they are not being paid as the company faces increasing financial difficulties. Two employees, speaking on condition of anonymity, revealed that an internal memo indicated that one of Q's investors had dropped out, leaving the company to scramble for funds. It was reported Friday on Out.com that the network was going "on hiatus" until February 13, but at that time Q's executive vice president of network operations, Carol Hinnant, reported that full-time employees would continue to be paid.

When contacted by Advocate.com on Monday, Hinnant refused to comment on the late paychecks but said, "Every network has growing pains. We'll be back on the 13th, and we hope [our employees] will be back." Hinnant disputed claims by one of the Q employees that most of the network staff had gone home Monday after being informed that the paychecks they were due to receive on February 1, and then on February 3, would still not be available. (Advocate.com)


http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid25213.asp

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nice find MT

thanks

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