To me it shows that 175,000,000 more shares were sold during the day and that they did not post until after the trading closed for the day.
I believe this information should have been shown to the public during trading hours. In turn I noticed that the volume increased to about 687 million shares and the ask went to .0007.
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I don't mind that activity if it's "buys" and not "sells" If anything it's a good sign that someone wants shares for some reason... Right?
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I think it is Rasica's theory that MMs are swapping borrowed shares back and forth with each other at a discounted price and a huge volume to fool real share holders into thinking that the stock pps is dropping so that it will scare them into selling their real shares for a lower price.
quote:Originally posted by kilerb: I don't mind that activity if it's "buys" and not "sells" If anything it's a good sign that someone wants shares for some reason... Right?
quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: I think it is Rasica's theory that MMs are swapping borrowed shares back and forth with each other at a discounted price and a huge volume to fool real share holders into thinking that the stock pps is dropping so that it will scare them into selling their real shares for a lower price.
quote:Originally posted by kilerb: I don't mind that activity if it's "buys" and not "sells" If anything it's a good sign that someone wants shares for some reason... Right?
Max..........
The T&S showed 19->>>>9,000,000 and 1->>>>4,000,000. Now these were coded lt blue which means they were bought 'off' the ask. Other people have substantiated this happening after hours.
When these shares were counted, it raised the ASK to .0007. Some people say the raising of the ASK was an anomaly and is a consistent phenomena for after hour behavior with price/bid/ask.
I contend in this situation, that the ASK responded to the high influx of 'buys' that were tallied after hours.
No matter what if we start with a gapper on Monday....meaning we start at ASK .0007 instead of ASK .0005 were it closed, then we'll know.
In the end, I really don't think it matters much, because I think the MMs can manually turn it back again easily. But what I am gleaning from this, is that in effect, shareholders were duped into believing the pps and volume was actually lower than it should be.
GLTA LONGS
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First of all, where do you get this AH info? Secondly, how does it benefit them to make the volume appear to be lower by a couple hundred mil, when it is shown to be over 500 mil? Third, what do you think it is gonna take to end the manipulation?
quote:Originally posted by Rasica:
quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: I think it is Rasica's theory that MMs are swapping borrowed shares back and forth with each other at a discounted price and a huge volume to fool real share holders into thinking that the stock pps is dropping so that it will scare them into selling their real shares for a lower price.
quote:Originally posted by kilerb: I don't mind that activity if it's "buys" and not "sells" If anything it's a good sign that someone wants shares for some reason... Right?
Max..........
The T&S showed 19->>>>9,000,000 and 1->>>>4,000,000. Now these were coded lt blue which means they were bought 'off' the ask. Other people have substantiated this happening after hours.
When these shares were counted, it raised the ASK to .0007. Some people say the raising of the ASK was an anomaly and is a consistent phenomena for after hour behavior with price/bid/ask.
I contend in this situation, that the ASK responded to the high influx of 'buys' that were tallied after hours.
No matter what if we start with a gapper on Monday....meaning we start at ASK .0007 instead of ASK .0005 were it closed, then we'll know.
In the end, I really don't think it matters much, because I think the MMs can manually turn it back again easily. But what I am gleaning from this, is that in effect, shareholders were duped into believing the pps and volume was actually lower than it should be.
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Max says----> First of all, where do you get this AH info?
Answer---> Same place as you could, T&S.
Max---> Secondly, how does it benefit them to make the volume appear to be lower by a couple hundred mil, when it is shown to be over 500 mil?
Answer---> To cover shorts
Max---> Third, what do you think it is gonna take to end the manipulation?
Answer---> Not sure
GLTA!!!! IMHO
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Question is, I think.. will it ever end. One thing about this stock, we're all used to waiting. But, in sheer frustration.. will the MMs ever, ever leave this one alone so that it can do something for us? Have a happy weekend everyone.
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quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: Please post a link to T&S. Thanks
quote:Originally posted by Rasica: Max says----> First of all, where do you get this AH info?
Answer---> Same place as you could, T&S.
Max---> Secondly, how does it benefit them to make the volume appear to be lower by a couple hundred mil, when it is shown to be over 500 mil?
Answer---> To cover shorts
Max---> Third, what do you think it is gonna take to end the manipulation?
Answer---> Not sure
GLTA!!!! IMHO
T&S is usually obtained through your broker!
GLTA
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all clearly show accumulation...not dilution....anyone notice over the last month how little selling is taking place in light of all the buying yet we keep going dow.....?
bidbuying of hugh positions sucks the mm,s down to that buying level...then these flippers make a point or 2 then sell and put there bidbuys in under the buys... you just bought in an attempt to squeeze the little guy (that cant understand why its falling) out......
its a sickening practice imo....
and yes i bought today at .0005.....
bmaz clampett
Very good post by bmaz4200
GLTA LONGS
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Oh, I thought that T&S was the name of the stock analysis program you use. My ScotTrade program must not be as sophisticated as the one you use. I don't have the detailed breakdown of the Times and Sales that you seem to have.
quote:Originally posted by Rasica:
quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: Please post a link to T&S. Thanks
quote:Originally posted by Rasica: Max says----> First of all, where do you get this AH info?
Answer---> Same place as you could, T&S.
Max---> Secondly, how does it benefit them to make the volume appear to be lower by a couple hundred mil, when it is shown to be over 500 mil?
Answer---> To cover shorts
Max---> Third, what do you think it is gonna take to end the manipulation?
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This is good news then. There is no dilution. This is just flippers taking advantage of a stable predictable stock. Once we get some great subscription and financial news this thing will explode, go to the next pps level, and be less predictable for the flippers to play with... I'm guessing. What the hell do I know. No dilution is a beautiful thing tho.
quote:Originally posted by Rasica: By: bmaz4200 03 Feb 2006, 03:16 PM EST
it would seem that we have greedy flippers and corrupt mm,s playing the lowball game triing to shake out shares....
the accumulation on this thing defies logic .....its only a matter of time till we see the big payoff...
all clearly show accumulation...not dilution....anyone notice over the last month how little selling is taking place in light of all the buying yet we keep going dow.....?
bidbuying of hugh positions sucks the mm,s down to that buying level...then these flippers make a point or 2 then sell and put there bidbuys in under the buys... you just bought in an attempt to squeeze the little guy (that cant understand why its falling) out......
Max---> Oh, I thought that T&S was the name of the stock analysis program you use.
Max----> My ScotTrade program must not be as sophisticated as the one you use.
Max----> I don't have the detailed breakdown of the Times and Sales that you seem to have.
Answer---> From thinking T&S was an analysis program to your disclosure of T&S meaning 'time& sales' took no outside enlightenment for you to understand the difference! Did you notice that Max? From what I can tell, you knew all along! Only person from 02-03-2006 07:59 PM to 02-04-2006 01:57 AM who mentions time & sales is you. You, the person who thought T&S was an analysis program. Give us break LMAO!!!
GLTY though!! Try to be more careful when being dubious, ok?
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Alternatively, on the top right of the streamer, click 'Settings', then check the box 'Show Time and Sales'. T&S for all stocks on your streamer will show.
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i go to quote media for time and sales.i have a question,when it is in green,thats a buy,red is a sell.so what is it when it is in white?
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quote:Originally posted by bomber: i go to quote media for time and sales.i have a question,when it is in green,thats a buy,red is a sell.so what is it when it is in white?
Trade data is color coded so that it is easier to see the momentum of the trades.
Green color = trade occurred on the Ask, Red color = trade occurred on the Bid, Cyan color = trade didn’t occur on the Bid or Ask, Yellow color = trade broke either the High or Low for the day.
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I found out T&S was Time and Sales by doing a yahoo search for a site or program called T&S, but I am flattered that you think a newbie like me is so hip to the lingo.
quote:Originally posted by Rasica:
Answer---> From thinking T&S was an analysis program to your disclosure of T&S meaning 'time& sales' took no outside enlightenment for you to understand the difference! Did you notice that Max? From what I can tell, you knew all along! Only person from 02-03-2006 07:59 PM to 02-04-2006 01:57 AM who mentions time & sales is you. You, the person who thought T&S was an analysis program. Give us break LMAO!!!
GLTY though!! Try to be more careful when being dubious, ok?
quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: I found out T&S was Time and Sales by doing a yahoo search for a site or program called T&S, but I am flattered that you think a newbie like me is so hip to the lingo.
No prob and best of luck to you as well.
Here's some DD (due diligence), showing some exposure TFN is getting these days.
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Thanks for bringing T&S to my attention. That is an incredible tool to analyze the trading activity. It is gonna open up a whole new world to me.
quote:Originally posted by Rasica:
quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: I found out T&S was Time and Sales by doing a yahoo search for a site or program called T&S, but I am flattered that you think a newbie like me is so hip to the lingo.
No prob and best of luck to you as well.
Here's some DD (due diligence), showing some exposure TFN is getting these days.
quote:Originally posted by Team Sleep: There are millions of rednecks and trailer-trolls who love this kind of stuff. This network is going to fly, and fly fast once it hits the U.S.
My concern is that another network will rip them off and get going in the U.S. before BKMP gets firmly rooted here.
Gonna be hard for a US company to pull it off considering The Fight Network has agreements to be THE CHANNEL to carry the Pride, K-1, Superleague, Wrestling, etc for North America distribution which accounts for probably 90% of programming available worth watching. The other 10% I would give to UFC which they haven't signed on yet.
So if a US company were to knock this idea off and sign, say UFC for example, that doesn't give them much Knockout power if they only have 1 program worth watching. As much as I like UFC, I couldn't watch UFC only 24/7......that would get boring very very fast.
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My buddy is a huge UFC fan and he told me UFC doesn't want to be affiliated much with TFN because they play a lot of "fake" wrestling programs. So, hopefully we'll at least be able to play their old archived tapes or something. Or we'll get other UFC competitors, like King of the Cage or something like that...
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quote:Originally posted by kilerb: My buddy is a huge UFC fan and he told me UFC doesn't want to be affiliated much with TFN because they play a lot of "fake" wrestling programs. So, hopefully we'll at least be able to play their old archived tapes or something. Or we'll get other UFC competitors, like King of the Cage or something like that...
Problem I have with your post kilerb is that UFC plays the "fake" wrestling and TFN plays both entertainment wrestling and REAL wrestling!
You should get informed about what TFN really is, then you could have corrected your alleged friend. Remember UFC is simply a show and not a NETWORK as is The Fight Network.
Get informed and convince your friend with facts not heresay!
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-Shares reduced from 300 bil to 2.5 bil (QBID has 50 bil)
-Just filed a Q (30 SEP 2005)
-CEO stated no R/S, no F/S, no dilution
-Market advisors initiates coverage with target price much higher than present PPS
-Stock under accumulation
All the above are facts, not assumptions or my opinions.
Already posted by Dexx
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Rasica, I think what kilerb is saying is that the UFC, as a real fighting group (they don't fake anything), doesn't want anything to do with 'entertainment' wrestling. Most MMA folks can't stand fake wrestling. Maybe if UFC did sign on, there would be less of the fake stuff, but that fake stuff sure does bring in a lot of money.
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quote:Originally posted by tech1: Rasica, I think what kilerb is saying is that the UFC, as a real fighting group (they don't fake anything), doesn't want anything to do with 'entertainment' wrestling. Most MMA folks can't stand fake wrestling. Maybe if UFC did sign on, there would be less of the fake stuff, but that fake stuff sure does bring in a lot of money.
My post had an error in it.
UFC is shown on Spike TV which also shows 'fake wrestling'. It is here, that I recognized the incosistencey of kilerb's post.
I said UFC shows 'fake wrestling' and I meant Spike TV.
My Error!!!!
That said...I can't stand 'fake wrestling either', but UFC is shown on another network that does show it.
What is really unique with The Fight Network, is that they show also REAL WRESTLING and Spike Network does not!!
So here, TFN has a leg up...I'm an ole Judo guy and what I want to see is the Wrestlers take on the Judo experts. I saw that posted on the TFN Itinerary and that is something I really want to see.
I always heard it hyped up that Wrestlers can take anyone and since Judo is similar but more...I want to see what happens. It'll be fair unless some 200# Judo expert goes against a 500# Sumo. LOL
Thanx for the heads up tech1
Rasica
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Chuck Lidell is the biggest name in UFC and he appears to have a solid relationship with TFN. That should translate into some big credibility with the UFC fans.
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quote:Originally posted by Max Shrap: Chuck Lidell is the biggest name in UFC and he appears to have a solid relationship with TFN. That should translate into some big credibility with the UFC fans.
Max.......thats right and also Ami James of Miami Ink is a big big fan of The Fight Network. He wore the TFN shirt on a promo the other day while filming in Florida.
Some of the guys here may supply the link of that video.
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