quote:Originally posted by B. Rainman: Why with this news are we still seeing a neg. tick and a dismal .0003? I'm trying to keep the faith but can someone (maybe DWE) expand on why this 'spin-off' is better news. I'm a tad green. Thanks.
That's a very good question but it's one that you should be able to answer easily. In the past week, this company has announced a buy back of a billion shares and now a dividend of their soon to be spun-off entertainment business. With that kind of news, why on earth isn't the stock going up? It should be skyrocketing, right? Wrong.
The simple answer is that this company is and always has been a pump and dump scam. This is being set up for another reverse split, probably within the next 3 months or so. They announce that they're going to buy back a billion shares, good news right? What they don't tell you is that while they're buying back those billion, they'll issue another 5 billion. Another dividend in their entertainment business, more good news, right? They have no entertainment business. 2 reverse splits ago when they were Livestar they claimed that they had a nightclub. It folded and is now non-existent.
This company has bled shareholders dry over the last three years and it is no different this time. It's the same people playing the same game and many here are falling for it all over again. I'd highly recommend getting out of this one at all costs. There's good money to be made elsewhere, you won't make any here.
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quote:Originally posted by B. Rainman: So do you expect any rise at all leading up to this reverse split?
All stocks have bumps here and there. One thing that is obvious though is that this will not run on any corporate "news". There's simply too many shares available to pressure it. I'd estimate an extreme top end of .0006. That's double todays bid and if you happen to get a chance at it, take it. Also, the reverse split I mentioned has not been announced by the company and no PRE 14C has been filed. I'm strictly going by the history of the company. When this drops to .0001/.0002, watch out, that's when they'll do it.
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quote:Originally posted by B. Rainman: So, as a shareholder, what does a reverse split do to my shares?...wipe them out? Thanks.
It depends on how many you own and what the ratio of the reverse split is. Here's an example: Let's say you have 1 million shares and they announce a 1 for 1000 reverse split. Your holdings will be reduced by a factor of 1000 leaving you with 1000 shares. The theoretical plus side to it is that the price per share will increase by a factor of 1000. So if they did it at .0001, the price per share would go to .10, leaving you even. The problem is that with most stocks in general and this one in particular, the pps immediately drops like a rock rending your holdings essentially worthless. I owned quite a bit of this company 2 or 3 splits ago. I now have less than one share at todays price of .0003/.0004. You don't want that to happen.
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1. R/S. you say they will have a r/s, well, let me ask you one thing, if you were a CEO and you could get cash OR you could get stock shares which would you do? If you knew that your company is doing a r/s it makes NO sense to take shares. And yes, the CEO would know of a r/s.
2. Even as a pinksheet, to dilute, you still have to file them. Do you see the filings for it, NO. The S-8 shares are restricted for 1 year and so are the CEO's. So those shares have no value right now. a year from now, yes they do, but not now.
3. They still OWN livestar AND promostaffing.
4. If you have questions, CALL them. STOP BEING LAZY INVESTORS. If you have questions call them and get your answers.
finally, Do your own DD and KNOW WHAT YOU OWN
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I won't disagree with Upside regarding a R/S for JPHC. Any penny company can do one out of the blue. However, I believe the only reason that Upside is here bashing the stock is because of a stupid, and idiotic disagreement we had earlier in the month and he probably knows I have a few shares of this company. He can talk all he wants, and plus he those "types" that think they know it all like a "human encyclopedia", if you will. This guy must have done 30 years at Harvard or something for the reasons on how he portrays himself. My suggestion is not to listen to people like Upside. Do your own DD and you'll succeed in whatever stocks you put your money into. Remember, don't take crap from NO ONE, especially people like Upside! He "ain't" no psychic. Again, a reverse split may or may not happen. We'll just have to see. Good luck.
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quote:Originally posted by DWE: My suggestion is not to listen to people like Upside.
That could be a good piece of advice. It might even turn out to be the smartest thing you've ever said. We'll see.
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Thing to look at that arent being mentioned here.
There are heavy rumors that JPHC, or MACRO is going to be bought out by someone. Buying back shares, dumping no-revenue holdings, and giving those shares back to the investor as a dividend is a way to make the stock lean, and raise the value and cost of the buyout. (Theory here of course)
However, I watched ALOT of the trading today. Did anyone actually sell at .0003? No... they were MM trades to drive down the price... there were ALOT of MM 100 signals. Second, there are alot of shorters who need to cover AND there is the possibility of JPHC and the MM's keeping the price down while they commence the buybacks.
Of Course, do your own DD, but this would explain WHY they didnt come out with Q3, were asked to delay it while they get last years filings done, and why they arent pursuing OTCBB full bore.
Dogcatcher, whether he has an agenda or not, is reporting that BIG news on a buyout is coming next week. DogC has been accurate all but once on the news of this stock, and you have to take in one last consideration...
Just before Chrsitmas, JPHC had a huge meeting over a weekend... shortly after, rumors of a buyout started circulating. I'll bet that meeting was to plan a strategy that is occurring with the recent PR's to get this company ready for the buyer.
This is just my speculation of course, but there is way to much minipulation by the MM's for a company that has serious revenues coming, and 50% stake in a booming company VXBX.
The Dr.
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I have heard the rumour is that T-mobile is the company that is to acqire JPHC. How reliable this is, I'm not sure.
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Someone one night rushed onto RB abd said they saw a ticker on Bloomberg that T-Mobile was acquiring either VXBX or Macro. No one could substansiate, but that is part of the rumor.
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I way I heard the rumour was as DrWho described it. I happened about a month ago and I think the same guy has mentioned it a couple times since.
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You would think that JPHC would tell us already in a PR that a bigger company is going to buy them out. I doubt that's going happen, if it was going to happen, we should know by now. I think this is just the beginning for this company but they've got awhile to go. My target price. $0.0015 to $0.002. It's possible.
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I truly think this stock is setting up for a buyout. It just seems so logical at this point. Dog has been very persistent that this acquisition is going to happen and i tend to agree with him. He's been 100 percent so far on news.
Some of the things that make me think this are 1. 2 billion shares acquired recently (to set up for the big killing). 2. Meeting in New York in December were the demands of teh acquirer 3. Spinoff today of livestar & promo?. (they want Macro on its own) 4. Buy back of up to a billion shares (to reduce the float substantially). to make it look much better on there financials. (also reducing debt) 5. Delay of filings (why do they need to file if there being acquired)
I know most of this is speculation but i feel very strongly that it is inevitable that Macro will be acquired. There is so much value in that company that noone is giving much attention too. I was told by a very good source that they are definitely breakeven for the fourth quarter and should be profitable late first quarter or 2nd quarter. They bought Macro for 2 million but I easily think they can sell them for 10-20 million easy once there profitable. Bottom line i think there worth at least .003 - .01 just with Macro.
I think if Dog is right the stock one day on the announcement of this deal could easily open up at .003 or higher
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With all of this talk lately, there are now some cheap shares to take advantage of, you can get in at .0004 or average down some also. I think anything under .0006 is a great deal. There is $ to be made here.
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Stockmover..... You're right. Just waiting for JPHC to make its move. JPHC does have a bad habit for lagging on progress. They've done that time and time again in the past but at the end, they usually always do what they say they're going to do on their PRs after keeping the shareholders hanging for awhile.
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I'm new to JPHC. Just bought shares today. I'm curious here, I bought through ST and at the very end of the day (literally 2 minutes before 4:00). The streaming ticker said it was at .0004 which was up from yesterday's close of .0003. This is where I also bought. Now my account says it's at .0003. Is ST messed up or did it actually go down that in the last minute or after the close? Thanks for any info.
just keep accumulating this and hold for a few months. JPHC is making out like crazy with there buyback here at these prices. They get to buy them a heck of a lot cheaper than last week. Saves them a ton of cash in the long run. If there smart they will try to buy the full billion here. If you look at the current market cap say 5 billion x .0003 = 1.5 million. Macro should be breakeven for the 4th quarter and profitable in the next few quarters. They should also bring in NOrth of 20 million by end of 2006. Do the math. Stock will be worth easily .005 - .01. Market makers trying a huge shakeout to accumulate as many as they can get there hands on. From what im hearing a good part of teh float is gone. JPHC will take care of the rest. I believe one day this stock will be up tremendous premarket or postmarket. Keep your focus on Macro not the pps because that company is for real and is doing very well.
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Q: Can you give us a brief overview of Jupiter Global Holdings, what you do and the markets you serve?
A: Jupiter is a holding company we are committed to building shareholder value through growing our holdings by acquisitions. Currently we are focused on the telecom sector as the key market we are serving. Our main holding is Macro Communications Inc. Q: What part does the acquisition of Macro Communications play in the Jupiter business model?
A: Macro Communications Inc. is our main acquisition. Macro is currently generating approximately $12,000,000 in revenue annually. It makes up the bulk of our holdings and is the subsidiary that we will build Jupiter around. Q: Why did the Company recently authorize a stock buyback program?
A: The Company is making plans to greatly improve shareholder value and the stock buyback authorization gives the Company to kick that off in major way? The stock buyback program is the first of many key steps to build shareholder value. Q: What do you think separates the Company from its competitors?
A: When it comes to Macro Communications Inc. the competitive advantage is that Macro has the ability to produce revenue from multiple revenue streams, which include: Prepaid calling card platforms Universal Point-of-Sale Activation Services International gateway and arbitrage services Enhanced IVR solutions Stored Value Cards
Q: When can investors expect the Company to see an up tick in its revenues?
A: Investors can expect to the revenue from Macro increase significantly in the next two quarters. Q: Is the Company currently capitalized to achieve its strategic objectives through the next 12 months?
A: The Company currently has financing that is being finalized that will enable us to reach our goals for the upcoming fiscal year. Q: How much growth through acquisition can investors expect to see from the Company through the next 12 months?
A: If the Company is successful in finalize several acquisitions it has its eye it could possibly mean growth from approximately $12,000,000 in revenue to over $30,000,000 in revenue. Q: What are some milestones that investors should watch for? (Operational and financial/ 12-18 months)
A: Reduce the public float by 1 Billion shares Secure additional acquisitions Grow to $25 – $35 million in revenue Clean up the balance sheet Begin producing solid earnings
Q: Where would you like to see the Company in five years?
A: We would like to see the Company possibly acquired and generating over $100,000,000 in revenue and producing quality earnings per share that may be given to shareholders as yearly dividends. Q: To some shareholders this process has taken a long time. Why should they continue to hold their stock?
A: With the Company’s acquisition of Macro Communications and our revenue base of approximately $12,000,000/year shareholders should take note that we have only just begun a plan to greatly improve shareholder value. We feel we are undervalued currently and we believe that a long term thinking approach to their holdings is recommended. Q: Is there a website where investors can get more information?
A: w ww.jupit er global.net
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Excellent, fair and balanced info on this thread. I'm going to put in an order for Monday AM and see what happens. Thank you all. Have a great weekend.
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"We feel we are undervalued currently and we believe that a long term thinking approach to their holdings is recommended".
That's why I like to buy millions and millions of shares of these kind of companies. I currently own 5 million shares of JPHC. I'm planning to buy 5 million more. When the PPS starts to move, I'll sell 9 million, take my profits and keep 1 million for a long term hold providing that JPHC is FREE from any and all "reverse splits". Imagine if you kept your million shares, and a year later, it went up to a dollar.
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The big thing that most people dont realize is that Macro is a solid producing revenue company that is just starting to kick into gear. The have also slashed there operating expenses quite a bit to be much more lean company. The price per share here is a complete joke. They are putting no value on Macro which is ridiculous. MOst companies that have 12million in revenues are trading in the pennies with a market cap that reflects that. The market cap for jphc is around 1.5 million right now. It should be at least 15 million to reflect current revenues. It will get there but unfortunately the market makers think they own and control the stock. Once you take those guys out of the way the stock will eventually get towards the .005 range which i think makes them fairly valued. JPHC did run to .0033 when they were a shell in the last few months and now there a completely different revenue producing company. I bought 5 million the other day and if it drops further will try to buy another 20 million.
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I think that's a wise decision Bigdogs. I'm tempted to purchase a total of 20 million more shares as well if the price is right. I agree with your comments on Macro. They've only taken over Macro a few months ago. Sometime this year in 2006, I just have a feeling JPHC is going to pop big. That's when my plan is going to kick in, sell and maybe keep 2 million this time for the long haul. I'm anxious to see where JPHC goes by December of 2006. Can JPHC do it without ANY reverse splits? I think there's a strong possibility that then can do without one. Just be cautious though. Any microcap company can screw you big time. Good luck!
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I agree. The current buyback in my opinion rules out the R/S for now. But down the line it can definitely play a role especially if the got onto the bulletin board and needed to reverse split to get onto Nasdaq. Everything is falling nicely into place for this company and i have been in touch with some people very close to the company and they seem very confident in Macros potential going forward and have said teh bleeding has stopped. Meaning Macro is currently breakeven. Hopefully there right. Company is priced for disaster here and once Macro reports there big progress i think it will easiy be valued at .002-.003 short term based on there numbers. Right now there share price is based on a shell. Makes no sense. Anyway ive done alot research here and the stockbuyback tells me everything I need to know. Remember when JPHC was as .0016 they had a press release stating they though there price was way undervalued then so that says alot.
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I use to make money on this stock on the bounce. I have stayed away because it seemed like the O/S were climbing, I am afraid of the R/S. I normally do not buy on pump news, it usually turns out bad. You have got me in this time, hope it turns out better than normal. Kick me if it R/S.
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If there is one thing that is consisent on the pinksheet stocks that is the stocks are being heavily manipulated by market makers. They usually run pinksheet stocks 2 times a year and the rest of the year no matter what the news they drive them into the ground. Its not just JPHC its about every stock in the pink sheet market. Why do they do this. Im told because the lower they take the stock the bigger the percentage take for the market makers. They make money based on the spread per stock so the lower it guys the higher the percentage. They try to make it look like JPHC is the wrongdoer here but in reality its the market makers greediness. Macro is doing fine and will explode in growth in the next 2 quarters. This company is priced as a shell and has given no value to Macro. Thats wrong. 12 million in revenues should easily make this a much higher pps stock. The o/s is probably around 5billion. That gives jphc a market cap of 1.5 currently. There valued at nothing. Most stocks trade at 2x revenues. Once the filings are out this stock will fly. But in the meantime the market makers will take ownership of jphc trading wise for there own benefit. That to me is the biggest travesty of the stock market. Market makers should not be able to profit at all because they have too much inside information. Kind of like stealing from the poor.
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Bigdog, I think you have a lot of great points. I believe this stock is being naked shorted very heavy. probably 100 million shares worth. If it has to be, i will order my certs and if it gets bad enough, i would suggest the same from everyone else. of course it is harder to sell that way, but hey, if that means that they can't short the stock, this thing would fly. Remember, if you order your certs, they CAN NOT short your shares.
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