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Well, im signin off. Were heading up north to our lakehouse tommorrow morning (driving 24 hours nonstop) in canada. Everyone have a good holidays and hopefully things will work out for the better. Ill be back around January 5th so yall have a good time while im gone.
I would try and keep in touch although i dont know my password for millertime (LMAO) and i dont know how to find out what it is. (everytime i log in, its on the same laptop and the password automatically loads.

So you guys have a good time, and again merry christmas and happy holidays to all.

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Lack of Transparency was/is intentional , so far dispite bashers who have all different agenda,they were first to publish here very important information that Frank Olsen decided to keep away of investors. every time Frank Olsen increased the A/S , we only did know about it from bashers , Back last year when Frank decided to go private with QTN , we would have not known about the fillings if it was not for bashers who were first to post the information and the link for that to verify . Now investors got new information from firestone lawsuit .Except for the actual launch of QTN and QTN progress, everything else bashers predicted did come out to be true , some of bashers predictions were : Massive Dilution , loss of investment regardless to entry point since April 2004 , Audit of OS will never been published by the company since Frank Olsen promised and that was about 2 years ago , In summary , anyone listened bashers since last April till now ended up saving money , on the ptherhand , anyone who listed /believed in Frank Olsen during same period of time ended up losing almost all of the invsment.
In the lack of Transpaency and presence of a liar CEO , only someone out his mind will ever buy or add shares of QBID !
Now how come bashers were right on almost everything has to do with QBID ( I said QBID and not QTN) , I do honestly believe that Bashers need Frank ( he always make sure they come out right ) and I also believe Frank needs bashers who are preparing the public in pschological way for the toatal loss of the investment !
I will doubt that Frank will hear investors cry and come out for help !! Frank needed the investors(help) to hold till PPS was .001 follwong that , you did hear it yourself at CC , Frank said basically , if you dont like what you see ..SELL , Frank did not say that when PPS was above a penny , when PPS was above a penny , Frank started a HOTLINE pumping campaign to lure shareholders to hold , so he can dump all he could above and around a penny !! Frank has no need for current shareholders , In reality he wish all current investors sell now and get the ### out of his way so he can re-structure without current suckers loud cry ,and then find new suckers by the time chicago games starts in 2006 !
At this point I believe no shareholder should post positive information about QBID till Frank comes out clean ( Which I realy doubt) .
My advice is that leave the bashers alone here , let them post real information that will help newbies of falling in this scam , makes no diffrence if entry point .0001 or .0002 , since most likey money invested will be all lost ..who cares if you buy it .01 or .0001 if you going to lose it all !!!
I will post other honest opinion whenever I feel such posts could help prevent some newbies of losing all investment here , Does not matter anymore whay bashers bash here , and yes I still believe they are shorts of billions of shares , but who cares , Frank does not care anyway ,and he will make sure shorts will never have to cover , they both (Frank and shorts) looted the investors ! bottom line PPS will go under with no hope of recovery in my opinion !
Only good may come out of investors holding is that there may be vwer slim chance of recovery if any of very small amount of many during a class action lawsuit !but I will not bank on that !!

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yeah, i just put my order in for a new Lamborghini. They put me on the easy payment plan so my great great great great grandkids should have it paid off by the time they are 84.3 years old. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Seems to be some monopolizing going on.
Somebody got tired of hearing different sides of the story, so it was discarded. Now go back to sleep. Its past your bed time as it is.

quote:
Originally posted by mjm2005:
That was weird...There was a page 120 when I was on 119...and I clicked on it, and it took me back to 119. Hmmm, deleted posts?


Oh, haha...I passed out at 8am...My attempts to fix my nocturnal lifestyle failed miserably.

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quote:
Originally posted by JimS:
Just spoke to Jenn re: the party in Burbank last night. She said her brother went and there was not much going on. No big announcements or anything. She did say there were a number of celebrities there and that Scott Withers indicated that quite a few celebrities are interested in being on the Q. That was about it. No earth shattering news!

Thanks for passing the information anyway. We appreciate it.

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hey RNINALVNG/terry...a vague ambiguity...
how's it hangin' down tx? hope it's good w/you.
gonna vent alittle....

apologize in advance for the length of this post. not interested--skip it.


does it bother anyone that frank is signing contracts with NO BENEFIT to shareholders???

...in fact, CUT'S OUT, omits, eliminates, the QBID shareholders.......intentionally


anybody have questions about...

...acting on behalf/in the best interest of QBID shareholders

...could there be siphoning or funneling of production work/contracts/assets into a nice little slush-fund of undisclosed un-licensed, un-registered, or dissolved "corporations for "his" personal holdings"....


for example, the recent revelations about Franklyn Broadcasting and FTP Corp. (a NEVADA corporation)

...from the Firestone lawsuit
http://www.mfcsnet.com/qbid/FirestonevsQBID12-13-05.pdf


...signing contracts representing defunct corporations (NOT QTN)

...signing contracts as "Frank Olsen and..." partner (NOT QTN, or Triangle Multimedia) with unknown entities (like FTP Corp)

thought frank was supposed to represent Q Television Network and Triangle Multimedia--NOT himself and unknown or dissolved corporations


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47. In light of QTN's recurring attempts to restructure the parties' agreements, Firestone's representatives traveled to California for a meeting August 22, 2005 in an effort to amicably resolve QTN's defaults and apparent intent not to perform as agreed. The result of this meeting was a "Production Agreement for Studio, Equipment, & Crew" dated August 23, 2005. In this new agreement, QTN agreed to pay Firestone $3,421,250.00 to produce additional programming. Exhibit J.

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48. At the last minute before this new agreement was signed, however, Olsen insisted that the contract be between Firestone and a company called "Franklyn Broadcasting" and not QTN. Olsen insisted that the contract be changed to replace "QTN" with this other entity:"Franklyn". Thus, despite having negotiated and represented himself as a corporate officer of QTN, and despite his fiduciary obligations to QTN and it's shareholders, Olsen said that the contract needed to be with Franklyn because the production work would be for the new network Olsen was starting to target the Native-American community. Olsen told Firestone that he had secured $3 million in federal funding from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which would serve as seed money for the launch of this network.

49. In the agreement with Franklyn Broadcasting, Inc., Olsen represented - purportedly on behalf of Franklyn Broadcasting, Inc. - that Franklyn "has the full power and authority to enter into" and "the financial ability to perform all financial requirements" of the agreement. When negotiating the agreement, Olsen told Firestone's representatives that Franklyn was one of "his" corporations for personal holdings. Firestone has since learned that Franklyn Broadcasting is not a corporation in good standing. In particular, the records of the Washington Secretary of State reveal that Franklyn Broadcasting was dissolved in 1998.


...presumably referring to the "Pow-Wow" network. now, unless 'Franklyn Broadcasting' is a subsidiary or division of Triangle Multimedia (or QTN), the QBID shareholders have NO REPRESENTATION --or, put another way, are NOT A PARTY TO this agreement.

the 1/19/05 Letter of Intent allows for "a new corporation would be formed (35 - 40% which would be owned by Firestone) which would operate QTN, produce television programming, and pursue new business opportunities such as the "Pow-Wow" network (number 29, page 19).


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27. In January 2005, QTN once again expressed its confidence in Firestone and began discussions about a joint-venture between the companies. The parties memorialized this proposed foint-venture with a Letter of Intent dated January 19, 2005. According to the Letter of Intent, a new corporation would be formed (35 - 40% which would be owned by Firestone) which would operate QTN, produce television programming, and pursue new business opportunities such as the "Pow-Wow" network, which Olsen represented was his concept for a Native-American television channel. The Letter of Intent provided that the structure of the new company must be completed within ninety days and discussions ensued in New York regarding this structure among Firestone's representatives, Olsen, and Gary Goldman (QTN's Counsel). That same month, Olsen told Firestone that U.S. Representative Barney Frank had informed him that the U.S. Congress had appropriated approximately $20 million for the creation and launch of a Native-American network, a portion of which, according to Olsen, would fund this new network.


...the new corporation would be Franklyn Broadcasting (60-65%), and Firestone (35-40%), if my math is right.


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52. In September 2005, Olsen once again approached Firestone for the benefit of a company other than QTN. In September 2005, Firestone signed a "Transponder and Services Agreement" with "Frank Olsen and FTP Corporation, Inc." This agreement provided for the leasing of additional transponder capacity from Firestone's satellite and Olsen represented that he was C.E.O. of yet another company, Liquidation by Satellite, a division of Triangle Multimedia, Inc. According to Olsen's business card, the offices of this company have the same address as Firestone in Fort Worth. Olsen claimed that he needed to lease this additional bandwidth pursuant to an agreement he had reached to provide communications services to F.E.M.A. in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. After signing this agreement, Olsen stated "I want to sign this agreement, but I would like you to put aside the old agreements...."
Firestone never agreed to "put aside" the old agreements.


...now again, unless 'FTP Corporation, Inc.' is a subsidiary or division of Triangle Multimedia (or QTN), the QBID shareholders have NO REPRESENTATION --or, put another way, are NOT A PARTY TO this agreement.


it seems to me that these agreements and contracts getting done between QTN's contractual partners and QTN's CEO wouldn't even exist without the presense and influence of QTN.

with NO BENEFIT to shareholders.

FTP Corp would benefit. Franklyn Broadcasting would benefit. Frank would certainly benefit. QBID shareholders???


this is all on the QBID dime. in other words, SHAREHOLDER.

shareholders fund Triangle Multimedia, that owns QTN, whose CEO represents and conducts business as QTN (and Triangle Multimedia), yet closes deals and signs contracts as 'Frank Olsen and FTP Corp.' or his now known personal holding corporation 'Franklyn Broadcasting'. o k.


one last question...
how many other contracts for the development of Q Television Network are out there signed with "Frank Olsen", or "Frank Olsen and ..." some unknown corporate entity?

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It bothers me!

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:


does it bother anyone that frank is signing contracts with NO BENEFIT to shareholders???



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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
It bothers me!

quote:
Originally posted by King Crimson:


does it bother anyone that frank is signing contracts with NO BENEFIT to shareholders???


Ditto! Bothers me too! Excellent D&D KC! It's a damn shame the content is negative!
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Honest Trader!

That's what pisses me off the most. Even bashers that wrote the most unbelievable $h!t were closer to the truth than I was & all I did was stick up for Frank! I take it personally!

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You and me both, but we still dont know the final outcome, you may be right in the long run.

Im not happy at all with the way Frank has handled this and treated us.

I will however be here till he steals my shares from me. I refuse to sell willingly and loose that kind of money, I will allow him to steal it and then he has to live with that.

I have spent more money then this more foolishly. so I will not feel as bad when it is gone as i would if i hit the sell button and it finaly did take off. It will be Franks decission if i loose on this one, not mine.

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Honest Trader!

That's what pisses me off the most. Even bashers that wrote the most unbelievable $h!t were closer to the truth than I was & all I did was stick up for Frank! I take it personally!



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yeah whiz...

folks have bought this stock because of it's gay business model.

could end up alienating 2 different demographics
...Native-American and glbt.

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info on FTP Corp, like

...what could 'FTP' stand for?

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I think it is a safe bet the SEC is taking a look just based on the following....
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Watch for False Claims on Internet Bulletin Boards
by Andrew Leckey

Talk is cheap, especially on one of the popular Online bulletin boards. You can jabber about stocks to your heart's content, soak up the pithy observations of others and perhaps learn something new in the process.
But behind the fun of chatting up stock investments on the Internet lurks the possibility you'll receive misinformation stemming from fraud or a hoax. Scam artists or pranksters sometimes pump up companies or pretend to share "inside" information. On some investment bulletin boards, they can hide their real identity behind aliases, creating the illusion of widespread interest in a small, thinly traded stock. They may claim to be unbiased observers when, in fact, they're either company shareholders or paid promoters.
Questionable tactics sometimes take place in Online newsletters as well. So it always makes sense to consider as many sources as possible before making a decision and to seek out those that are reputable.
Consider these Internet-related events of recent months:
Two California men pleaded guilty to criminal charges that they engineered an Internet fraud scheme involving a tiny shell company, NEI Webworld Inc. They used phony "screen names" to post bogus information and sold their shares as the stock's price rose, making an illicit gain for themselves of $364,000.
A Washington, DC law student settled Securities and Exchange Commission charges that he used a stock-recommendation Web site to manipulate the prices of four thinly traded stocks, generating $345,000 in profits for himself and his associates.
Credit Suisse First Boston filed a federal suit in New York City against 11 individuals for posting "false and defamatory" messages about one of the brokerage firm's analysts.
The SEC filed civil fraud charges against a New York-based stock market guru, contending he manipulated the market on Online bulletin boards, making hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal gains by encouraging people to buy certain stocks and then sell them as soon as the buying began.
"While other people are watching `Survivor' on television, I'm reading Internet bulletin boards, such as the Silicon Investor," said Mary Calhoun, president of Calhoun Consulting Group in Waltham, MA, which advises firms involved in securities litigation. "Although it's rare that posted messages are trying to manipulate stocks or move markets, it does happen."
The biggest mistakes average investors reading the bulletin boards make involve penny stocks, she believes, because the unsophisticated "really believe that a 50-cent stock is headed to $10 a share."
Of course, most people reading bulletin boards are just looking for an edge wherever they can find it, or seeking something new to research.
"I own stocks such as Intel, Cisco Systems and Sun Microsystems, but I never read the boards about them because they're such solid companies," explained Judy Muldawer, owner of Silicon Heights Computers in Albuquerque, NM, and member of the Silicon Investor (www.siliconinvestor.com) bulletin board site since 1996. "When I actually want to read about something is when I've found a stock that somehow looks interesting to me."
For example, Muldawer recently stumbled upon a stock simply because it had split. With her interest piqued, she went to the bulletin boards to learn more about it. The bulletin boards definitely want a reputation for helping, not hindering, the investment process.
"We really caution people that they should never rely on a single piece of information to make an investment decision, whether it's from a Wall Street analyst, a cocktail party, a newspaper article or a message board," said Tara Burgess, manager of community development for the investment bulletin board Raging Bull (www.ragingbull.com) in Andover, MA. "View the message boards with a cautious eye and understand how they fit into your overall due diligence process."
Raging Bull has "community advocates" who respond to complaints from members that message information may be wrong, Burgess said. If they find the information is false, it will be taken off the message board.
With the growth of the Internet and greater public interest in investing, expect greater problems in the future.
"We receive 200 to 300 e-mails every single day from people who believe that some sort of suspicious conduct is going on," said John Reed Stark, director of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Internet Fraud in Washington, DC. "Although it sometimes takes a little longer, most of these messages leave all kinds of footprints and we can generally track them down within a day or two."
The SEC's enforcement division has brought more than 140 actions involving the Internet over the past two years, Stark noted. His advice is to never base an investment decision on what you read in a message board. That's because credibility and integrity are the two major considerations when considering advice, he added.
Before you put money in any company's stock you've found out about on a bulletin board posting or an Online newsletter, Stark recommends that you get financial information from the company recommended and analyze it; verify the claims of new products or lucrative contracts; call suppliers and customers of the company and ask if they really do business with it' and check out the people running the company.
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King...that took half a second...lol!!!

Appears as if Frank already has...he's out now having a smoke...lol.

As Whiz said earlier...thanks for all the DD you bring to this board.

Bothers..I don't believe it to be a strong enough term.

It's getting harder to follow this board due to evaporating posts...lol.

I'll PM you shortly...take care.

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Hey King- what about the rest of Q mgmt are they all in cahoots on this stuff you're telling us. Not that you know, but how can they miss it.
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If Frank can be busted for whatever he might be doing illegally against the share holders, it works for me.
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King- if the allegations Firestone are making that indeed Frank is negotiating new business deals for Franklyn Broadcasting and FTP while using his influence as CEO of QTN, there is no doubt that is a serious "conflict of interest" and very "unethical".

Stems back to my belief that the "Q" concept is a great idea and the market is there to support QTN, but Frank is not the right person to be entrusted with the project of building a GLBT network.

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quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
If Frank can be busted for whatever he might be doing illegally against the share holders, it works for me.

Does anyone know if the minority shareholders can sue the majority shareholder for breach of trust as evidenced by his conflict of interest activities in securing deals for his personal gain, while deceiving shareholders regarding his activities to secure a contract for Franklyn Broadcastig and FTP.

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I sure would like to speak to Leonard Firestone and see if he is willing to say anything on this matter. Bishop Simpson has been very vocal regarding his lawsuit with Frank Olson.

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Sue the Majority stockholder by the rest of the stockholders? Yes it can be done, if the Majority stockholder conspired to de fraud by using his or her position as a position of trust.

It is also a felony, if the SEC wants to pursue...

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does anyone really doubt Firestone?

believe they came up with or fabricated the Barney Frank appropriations scenario?

...the "secured $3 million in federal funding from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which would serve as seed money for the launch of this network."

...sounds like a shell game to me. mystical funding from mysterious private investors....any of this sound familiar?

...just because Franklyn Broadcasting is dissolved, doesn't mean that he can't do business as Franklyn Broadcasting. obviously. August 23, 2005.
"Production Agreement for Studio, Equipment, & Crew" ...Exhibit J.


and he could get that baby Franklyn licensed and registered if he had to.

wouldn't help QBID shareholders out though. unless it's a subsidiary or division of Triangle Multimedia (or QTN), or is under contractual obligation to Triangle or QTN....QBID shareholders have no affiliation with Franklyn.
...other than frank

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im looking for my old buddy Remax Steve
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Wanna talk to Lido also
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http://www.investigatethesec.com/ArchiveNews.php

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Bayou founder, CFO plead guilty to fraud

CEO Israel, finance chief Marino face potentially long jail terms for stealing investors' money.
September 29, 2005: 5:43 PM EDT
By Amanda Cantrell, CNN/Money staff writer


Special Reportfull coverage

Conrad Black hit with more charges
Spitzer: Ex-AIG exec cheated charity
Ex-Hollinger CFO pleads not guilty

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Bayou Group founder Samuel Israel III and CFO Daniel Marino pleaded guilty Thursday to charges that they swindled more than $450 million from investors in one of the most bizarre hedge fund blowups in recent years.

Israel, 46, pleaded guilty to three counts of conspiracy, mail fraud and investment advisory fraud. He faces up to 30 years and fines up to $250,000 for each count.

Marino pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy and three counts of fraud. He faces up to 50 years in prison and fines of up to $250,000 per count. The two men are to be sentenced in January.

Hedge funds, secretive pools of capital catering mostly to wealthy investors, have come under closer scrutiny from federal regulators in recent years.

"This case demonstrates that even experienced investors in hedge funds can be victims of unscrupulous operators," Michael Garcia, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a statement. "Our office and our law enforcement partners will swiftly bring to bear all of our abilities to identify, investigate and prosecute such schemes and those who perpetuate them."

Federal prosecutors say that the duo convinced investors to put more than $450 million into Bayou hedge funds and then conspired to lie about the funds' returns and issued phony accounting statements to investors, according to charges brought by Garcia.

Reuters reported that U.S. Magistrate George Yanthis set Marino's bail at $500,000, and that Marino agreed to surrender his passport and honor restrictions barring him from traveling outside New York and Connecticut.

"I deeply regret my actions. I am very sorry in more ways than I can say," Marino said in a federal courthouse in White Plains, N.Y., the news agency reported.

In a related action, the Securities and Exchange Commission sued Bayou, Israel and Marino, seeking civil penalties and for assets to be returned to investors.

In its suit, the SEC said Israel and Marino have been defrauding investors in Bayou since the fund's inception in 1996. It said that Israel and Marino raised more than $450 million from investors and misappropriated millions of dollars for their personal use.

The agency also requested that the court freeze the defendants' assets and accused them of claiming to have made $43 million in four hedge funds in 2003 when the funds actually lost $49 million.

The SEC also charged that Israel and Marino created a sham accounting firm, Richmond-Fairfield Associates, to issue fake audits attesting to the phony results, and that Israel and Marino stole from investors by withdrawing incentive fees every year, which they were not entitled to because the fund never returned a profit.

By 2004, Israel and Marino had stopped trading and had transferred the rest of Bayou's assets to Israel and other non-Bayou entities but still sent periodic statements to investors describing profitable trades, the SEC said in its complaint.

The commission has appointed a receiver for the defendants' assets and is seeking civil penalties and repayment to investors.

The Commodity Futures Trading Commission filed a similar complaint and like the SEC, froze the defendants' assets and demanded they turn over what's left to an appointed receiver.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in New York on Sept. 1 sued to freeze $100 million that was seized in Arizona as part of a separate fraud probe.

According to that lawsuit, Bayou began defrauding investors in 1998, just a year after it opened its doors and kept up the fraud until last month.

The alleged fraud at Bayou has been detailed in a letter left by Marino that was intended to be a suicide note, and which was later obtained by state and local authorities, according to published reports.

By the end of 1998, the note said the fund had performed badly and Israel, Marino and another associate decided to create a fake accounting firm to fudge the numbers, the New York Times reported Thursday.

That charade went on for six years, the paper reported Marino said in his note, the contents of which were confirmed to the paper by two people who had read the letter.

Attorneys for Israel and Marino did not return calls seeking comment.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/29/markets/bayou/

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quote:
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Lack of Transparency was/is intentional , so far dispite bashers who have all different agenda,they were first to publish here very important information that Frank Olsen decided to keep away of investors. every time Frank Olsen increased the A/S , we only did know about it from bashers , Back last year when Frank decided to go private with QTN , we would have not known about the fillings if it was not for bashers who were first to post the information and the link for that to verify . Now investors got new information from firestone lawsuit .Except for the actual launch of QTN and QTN progress, everything else bashers predicted did come out to be true , some of bashers predictions were : Massive Dilution , loss of investment regardless to entry point since April 2004 , Audit of OS will never been published by the company since Frank Olsen promised and that was about 2 years ago , In summary , anyone listened bashers since last April till now ended up saving money , on the ptherhand , anyone who listed /believed in Frank Olsen during same period of time ended up losing almost all of the invsment.
In the lack of Transpaency and presence of a liar CEO , only someone out his mind will ever buy or add shares of QBID !
Now how come bashers were right on almost everything has to do with QBID ( I said QBID and not QTN) , I do honestly believe that Bashers need Frank ( he always make sure they come out right ) and I also believe Frank needs bashers who are preparing the public in pschological way for the toatal loss of the investment !
I will doubt that Frank will hear investors cry and come out for help !! Frank needed the investors(help) to hold till PPS was .001 follwong that , you did hear it yourself at CC , Frank said basically , if you dont like what you see ..SELL , Frank did not say that when PPS was above a penny , when PPS was above a penny , Frank started a HOTLINE pumping campaign to lure shareholders to hold , so he can dump all he could above and around a penny !! Frank has no need for current shareholders , In reality he wish all current investors sell now and get the ### out of his way so he can re-structure without current suckers loud cry ,and then find new suckers by the time chicago games starts in 2006 !
At this point I believe no shareholder should post positive information about QBID till Frank comes out clean ( Which I realy doubt) .
My advice is that leave the bashers alone here , let them post real information that will help newbies of falling in this scam , makes no diffrence if entry point .0001 or .0002 , since most likey money invested will be all lost ..who cares if you buy it .01 or .0001 if you going to lose it all !!!
I will post other honest opinion whenever I feel such posts could help prevent some newbies of losing all investment here , Does not matter anymore whay bashers bash here , and yes I still believe they are shorts of billions of shares , but who cares , Frank does not care anyway ,and he will make sure shorts will never have to cover , they both (Frank and shorts) looted the investors ! bottom line PPS will go under with no hope of recovery in my opinion !
Only good may come out of investors holding is that there may be vwer slim chance of recovery if any of very small amount of many during a class action lawsuit !but I will not bank on that !!

HT you can assume, speculate, calculate and accuse till the cow's come home....but until I see official and documented proof of the determining facts and evidence to make an accurate decision to either sell or hold, I refuse to let your sense of paranoia hinder my position.

You just need to figure a better way to see this through. jmo

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Honest Trader!

That's what pisses me off the most. Even bashers that wrote the most unbelievable $h!t were closer to the truth than I was & all I did was stick up for Frank! I take it personally!

It makes U4 look like nostradamus.
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Good one, Clyde.

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But can they really be labeled as bashers if they were telling the truth?

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But can they really be labeled as bashers if they were telling the truth?

No they...WE can't.
I'm glad to see many here are begining to see the truth... you are all entering a much larger world.

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Wow, what a different a year makes. Folks had such high hopes for this stock at this time last year, talking about what 2005 was gonna be the year for the Q, how things are in progress, etc. This year has brought nothing but drama, pure drama. Yeah the Q did expand to a few major cities but the bottomline is no money was made, just lost. At the end of the day it's all about PROFIT and in 2005 we saw none. Any thoughts on what 2006 will bring? Just curious.

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it will bring you back and entertain you.

some will buy some will sell. some will be happy some will be sad.

its the stock market. its another year.

Ill be here how bout you?

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Yeah I will be here no doubt. 2006 is the year of the games this summer so there has to be some progress with the pps if Q is covering it. This is suppose to be the big year. Q is going to be exposed to the whole world because of the games. Can't wait.

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doc you have a pm
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WOW quiet day.

i got my 4 wheeler home and plowed my drive way out. What a fun way to remove snow from the yard.

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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