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So, which one of you is selling at a loss? Cause we all know Frank can't be diluting, right?
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what makes you think anyone here is selling at a loss?
there are people still swinging this.
2 million shares at a time will give you $200 per tick less trading costs.
day trading and accumulation is what you see happening here.
sell at .0014 in the morning buy at .0012 in the afternoon.
where is my answer G?
Rod
ps im back to work so i wont be around till 5ish.
if we dont see it by then we will assume you cant do it. You have my permission to post my ip. And i have spoke to a moderator to allow you to post it.
Rod
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Well, Frank has admitted to diluting in order to get funds to spend on the advancement of Q. It would make some sense if they are diluting again to make this new acquisition. I think FOT's explanation that it might be the release of some restricted shares, but there is no doubt about this:
The pps is not going to go up until there is a stall on the supply side. The only reason we are where we are is that there seems to be a neverending supply of available shares in the 12 and 13 range. I have been bitching about it for a week now. There is no denying that. I can't say where it is coming from (dilution, formerly restricted shareholders now selling, or whatever), but this supply issue is really starting to bug.
MT -- maybe you can call Richard and ask about this? Get his opinion on the neverending supply issue, and I am really starting to get tired of the naked shorting thing. We are talking a LOT of naked shorting in the face of a lot of attention.
I think we are entitled to an answer on this besides "we are looking into it" or "it's the market makers."
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So, which one of you is selling at a loss? Cause we all know Frank can't be diluting, right?
I ain't selling! **** this baby is for real! If any dilution was going on this would be tanking and it isn't. Bro you are just getting tired. If you know so much then you would know this stock isn't being diluited! Anyone that knows anything about stocks knows how to tell whens something is being diluited! And this isn't.
This company is about to break away and become a big time player. 17 million homes by december. Only a matter of time nothting more nothing less.. G-invest go ahead and sell.. You will be the fool trying to buy back in when news hits... And you and I both know this will be moving to fast for you to buy a large amout.
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i think that theres only two people on this whole board that make sense... millertime and ginvest . i might have lots of dreams for this stock...but to post bs every single day is ridiculous..
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: i think that theres only two people on this whole board that make sense... millertime and ginvest . i might have lots of dreams for this stock...but to post bs every single day is ridiculous..
are you sure you want to go there???
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You've posted more BS (and outright lies) than almost anyone.
quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: i think that theres only two people on this whole board that make sense... millertime and ginvest . i might have lots of dreams for this stock...but to post bs every single day is ridiculous..
...know it makes me feel better that they are behaving like a real corporation filing the legal stuff and all...
i know you folks could care less about this legal stuff--but it is important for this company to get their corporate house in order. hey and thanks for all the non-responses richard brown.
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Hi all I’m pretty new to investing and I'm trying to follow what all is being typed here. I think qbid is a great idea in of it self, and has a huge potential. This is what I do not understand and if someone will take the time to walk me through it, I would greatly appreciate it.
1) Who or what are the MM’s and what is everyone worried about them doing to this stock? 2) Why if I have read so many good things about qbid is the stock going down continually? What is causing this? 3) What is a “pps”, a “dd” an “l2” - “12x13, 5x3” – basically anything that MillerTime says throws me off. He seems to have a wealth of knowledge and good posts, but I don’t understand a word of it. 4) Why are people on here talking about ip address and things that don’t involve qbid? I find myself skipping over a lot of posts while I’m trying to get more information on a company I’m investing in. So far I have 610,000 shares which I know isn’t much but as the saying goes “don’t invest more than you are willing to lose.” I’m willing to invest more but so far this stock doesn’t seem to be doing well even though I believe it should be.
Any light shed for me would be help full. If you all would like to bash on me that’s fine, I have a very thick skin. Just looking for some answers
quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: That's great news, King -- gives the bashers one less "real" thing to bitch about. Goodbye, dissolution rumor!
Way back when this first hit the boards, I posted a reply from Richard that indicated this situation with renewal had been taken care of, it just takes time for WA to get their records updated
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From: Equity Relations Inc. [staff@equityrelations.com] To: Wayne ****** Sent:Thur 6/9/2005 8:04AM Subject: Re: Business License Renewal
This has been taken care of.
Regards, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: Wayne ******** [mailto:********.com] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:55 PM To: staff@equityrelations.com Subject: Business License Corporate Renewal
Rich; the big buzz on the chat boards is if Frank did the renewal and filing that was due on May 31st 2005. Will you please clarify, as usual the bashers are running with this one, apparently the address in the filing is a home address in Olympia. Pleas give us some clarification on this one.
Wayne Doctoall
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RTRNG: FOR INFORMATION REGARDING STOCKS, DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. THE FUNDAMENTALS OF STOCKS THEY KNOW SQUAT ABOUT. BASIC FUNDAMENTALS OF STOCKS ARE REPORTED CERTIFIED ACCOUNTING SHARE PRINCIPALS WHICH THIS STOCK HAS NONE. IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE NEWS OF THIS STOCK WHICH ARE TERMED PRESS RELEASE (PR FOR SHORT) RE-READ THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THIS STOCK VIA THE PR AND YOU WILL SEE TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, ITEMS THAT CONFLICT, DO NOT MAKE SENSE AND NEVER COME TO PASS.
FOR EXAMPLE:
WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS STOCK SECURED 5-YEAR BROADCAST FINANCING. WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM IS NEVER DISCLOSED. WE ARE ALSO TOLD A "BIG NAME" INVESTMENT FIRM BUT WHO ARE THEY, THAT INFO IS NEVER RELEASED. SHORTLY AFTER WE ARE TOLD WE HAVE SECURED 5-YEAR BROADCAST FINANCING, A FEW WEEKS LATER, ANOTHER PR IS RELEASED AND TELLS US THEY HAVE SECURED A $2-MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO SECURE THE FIRST YEAR BROADCAST. THAT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP OR MAKE SENSE.
NOW TO FURTHER THIS, WE ARE TOLD THEY ARE COMPLETING A BUYBACK. WHAT ALL MISSED WAS THERE WAS A 6-BILLION SHARE ISSUE AND MORE SHARES ADDED BY CEO FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN. SO THEY ISSUE ALL THESE SHARES AND THEN ANNOUNCE A BUYBACK.
CAN I BORROW $10 FROM YOU TO PAY YOU BACK THE $10 I OWE YOU.
FURTHER, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE STOCK IS GOING TO UPGRADE 4 TIMES NOW. NEVER HAPPENED. THE LATEST NOTIFICATION OF UPGRADE WAS ONLY SQUASHED BY RENEE, PART OF THE QBID TEAM THAT TELLS US THE CORPORATION IS DIRTY AND CAN'T BE UPGRADED. BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE CEO OF THIS COMPANY AFTER THAT, FOR THE 4TH TIME TELLING US A UPGRADE WILL BE COMPLETED EVEN AFTER HIS OWN PARTNER TELLS US IT CAN'T BE UPGRADED.
WE ARE GIVEN BITS AND PIECES OF WHAT THE FLOAT TO THE COMPANY IS OR HOW MANY SHARES THE COMPANY HAS. WE ARE TOLD THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SHARES THEY HAVE BUT BASIC FUNDAMENTLS OF CORPORATE MINUTES IS TO MAINTAIN THE SHARE COUNT. ESPECIALLY FOR A PUBLICALLY TRADED COMPANY. BUT YET, THEY TELL US THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY TELL US THEY BOUGHT BACK X-AMOUNT OF SHARES AND THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF THE BUYBACK BUT THEN THEY TELL US THEY DON'T KNOW THE SHARE COUNT. JUST AT BASIC FUNDAMENTALS, IF I TELL YOU I BOUGHT BACK 3% OF THE SHARES, I HAVE TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF SHARES IF I BOUGHT BACK 3%; MAKES SENSE, BASIC STUFF. BUT THEY DON'T WORK THAT WAY.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rtrng at 45:
1) Who or what are the MM’s and what is everyone worried about them doing to this stock?
THE MM (MARKET MAKERS) ARE THE ENTITIES THAT CONNECT THE BUYERS AND THE SELLERS. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE ALOT OF INFO ABOUT NAKED SHORTS AND HOW THE MM ARE CONTROLLING THIS AND THAT AND HOW QBID IS LOOKING INTO THEM. THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU HAVE A CEO WHICH IS FULL OF LIES AND MISREPRESENTATIONS FOR WHICH THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO OWN, OR BOUGHT AND SOLD THIS STOCK DON'T BELIEVE ANY MORE. WHILE YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THIS AND OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS THAT CONTINUE TO PUMP THIS STOCK, THE FACT IS THERE ARE SO MANY LIES AND MORE LIES ON TOP OF THAT FOR THINGS THAT JUST NEVER COME TO PASS, NO ONE BELIVES ANYTHING THIS COMPANY HAS TO OFFER. INSTEAD OF CALLING THE CEO ON THE BULLCRAP HE PRESENTS, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF EXCUSES ABOUT WHY THE SHARE PRICE IS SO LOW. YOU'LL NOTICE WHEN THE STOCK GOES UP, NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE MARKET MAKERS BUT WHEN IT'S DOWN, IT'S ALWAYS THE MM'S FAULT BECAUSE THEY ARE MANIPULATING THE STOCK.
2) Why if I have read so many good things about qbid is the stock going down continually? What is causing this?
AGAIN, YOU HAVE SO MANY LIES ON TOP OF LIES ON TOP OF LIES FROM THE CEO OF THIS COMPANY. DONT' TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, RE-READ ALL THE INFORMATION RELEASED AND ASK YOURSELF THE BASIC QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS STOCK. FOR INSTANCE, WHY DO YOU TAKE A $2-MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO SECURE YOUR FIRST YEAR BROADCAST WHEN YOU JUST A FEW WEEKS EARLIER OBTAINED A LOAN TO SECURE 5-YEAR BROADCAST. FURTHER, DO SOME BASIC LOAN PRINCIPALS, WHEN YOU HAVE A BUSINESS WITH NO REVENUE, WHO'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOAN? JUST STICK TO BASIC FUNDAMENTLS WITH NOTHING COMPLEX AND YOU'LL SEE, IT DOESN'T ADD UP OR MAKE SENSE.
3) What is a “pps”, a “dd” an “l2” - “12x13, 5x3” – basically anything that MillerTime says throws me off. He seems to have a wealth of knowledge and good posts, but I don’t understand a word of it.
PPS IS PRICE PER SHARE. DD IS DUE DILIGENCE (AKA INVESTIGATE). THE 12X13 ARE THE BIDS AND ASKS THE MARKET MAKERS USE TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SOMEONE IS WILL TO BUY AND OR SELL FOR AND THE AMOUNT OF SHARES THEY HAVE TO EITHER BUY OR SELL.
4) Why are people on here talking about ip address and things that don’t involve qbid? I find myself skipping over a lot of posts while I’m trying to get more information on a company I’m investing in. So far I have 610,000 shares which I know isn’t much but as the saying goes “don’t invest more than you are willing to lose.” I’m willing to invest more but so far this stock doesn’t seem to be doing well even though I believe it should be.
THAT'S THE NATURE OF A MESSAGE BOARD. IT'S NOT ONLY STOCKS, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS ON HERE AS STRANGE AS THAT MAY SOUND.
IS A GAY TELEVISION STATION WORTHWILE? ABSOLUTELY. YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT, YOU BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DOING WELL AND YOUR RIGHT. YOUR GUT TELLS YOU THIS IS A VIABLE OPTION AND YOUR RIGHT. THIS DAY AND AGE FROM THE PRESIDENT TO LOCAL MAYORS IGNORING LAWS AND ALLOWING GAY MARRIAGE, THE INDICATORS ARE THAT THIS IS A NO-BRAINER. RECENTLY A PR WAS RELEASED THAT THE COMPANY WAS WORTH ALL THIS MONEY SO TO FORMULATE THIS EQUATION, YOU NEED FINANCIALS AND PROFITS/LOSSES TO JUSTIFY A PURCHASE. WE ARE TOLD QBID WAS OFFERED 100-MILLION DOLLARS AND IT'S BELIEVED IT'S GOING TO BE WORTH $1-BILLION OR MORE. IN ORDER TO BE WORTH ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FINANCIALS WHICH WE ARE TOLD THEY DON'T HAVE.
BUT...
YOU HAVE AT THE HELM OF THIS COMPANY, A CEO WHO TELLS US LIES ON TOP OF LIES ON TOP OF LIES ON TOP OF LIES AND CONTINOUS THINGS THAT NEVER COME TO LIGHT. HIS BUDDY SENDS HIM A OFFER FOR $100-MILLION DOLLARS WHICH HE REFUSES. LET ME SHOW YOU HOW EASY THIS IS TO DO:
DEAR MR. OLSEN:
I WOULD LIKE TO BUY YOUR COMPANY FOR $250-MILLION DOLLARS.
THANK YOU.
NOW HE'LL COME OUT VIA PR AND TELL US HE HAS A $250-MILLION DOLLAR OFFER.
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Hey U4 you forgot to tell RTRNG one very important fact about your investment. That being you bought a ton of shares at 0.0240
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My quote: Translation: Start selling so that g can grab more for a quick profit from a .007 run.
g-invest quote: You mean .0007 run, but yeah. Assuming this stock is in a trend reversal, then yes, you would be selling your shares to me. But I'm not bashing this stock. I'm bashing Frank. I'm bashing those of you who would tell people to buy shares regardless of the risk. -------------------------------------------------- Yes, you are correct another zero is needed.
I have not read any posts (other than hit-and-run "new members" that have ever even suggested that others buy shares period--with or without risks.
(Please do not take the time to look for such a post--I just do not recall one.)
I do understand that you are feeling frustrated that the pps is not higher after QTN has made so much progress.
It is not the posters on this board who are keeping the pps down.
Why play these psy games (making pictures of posters on this thread)?
Hackers and phishers do that kind of thing for a living (illegal living).
What is the point?
IMO, we have three choices--sell, hold or buy more.
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Has anyone been watching IHUB just recently. Some members have claimed to have received an email from Frank Olsen in reply to their complaints.
I'd like to warn anyone reading it to take it with an extreme grain of salt. When I spoke with Richard, just yesterday, I asked him if Franks shares were included in the 14 billion shares noted in the August 29th pr. He said he has not been able to get in contact with Frank because he does not use email and only does so rarely. For all of these posters to receive an email from Frank Olsen, CEO, with such detail I am severely skeptical. Matt
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Way back when this first hit the boards, I posted a reply from Richard that indicated this situation with renewal had been taken care of, it just takes time for WA to get their records updated
state of washington had nothing to do with it.
qtn was dissolved on 9/1 (just like the wa sos said), and then RE-INSTATED on 9/8/05. this was not "taken care of" back in june, it was taken care of on 9/8/05. washington state's records were and are up to date--now finally q television network, inc is also.
not saying anyone lied, but i don't want to know what they say or want me to know--they've been soooo forthcoming and truthful with revealing corporate info up to now, right?? i want to VERIFY that what they say is real...i shouldn't have to take frank or rene or richard's word--this is a public company--show me the docs....
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That is my point. I was told by Richard that he could not tell me the information because it was not in writing. Do you imagine CEO's sit at the computer all day writing emails? That's not how he got an agreement from COX I can assure you that. Here is my post on IHUB as to why I won't believe this new "information."
I'll be the first to say I don't believe you guys. I don't care, insult me all you want.
I was told, just yesterday, by Richard Brown that Frank is incredibly difficult to reach through email. For Frank to reply so quickly with a letter seems unlikly to me.
For a CEO to release such vital information about a company through email is also unprofessional. More likely if he would release information it would more likely come in the form of a letter on the investor relations page so more people would be able to view it rather than only a handful of investors that contacted him. I'm sorry but I don't believe you guys. You won't believe me in my arguements when I have information from PR's and now I'm supposed to believe all of you when information is "released" through a private email to only a few investors. No thank you. Matt
What seems likely to you? A CEO replying to a handful of investors that likely hold only .001% of the company or a CEO out making contracts with multi-billion dollar companies? I think the answer is clear. Matt
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Way back when this first hit the boards, I posted a reply from Richard that indicated this situation with renewal had been taken care of, it just takes time for WA to get their records updated
state of washington had nothing to do with it.
qtn was dissolved on 9/1 (just like the wa sos said), and then RE-INSTATED on 9/8/05. this was not "taken care of" back in june, it was taken care of on 9/8/05. washington state's records were and are up to date--now finally q television network, inc is also.
not saying anyone lied, but i don't want to know what they say or want me to know--they've been soooo forthcoming and truthful with revealing corporate info up to now, right?? i want to VERIFY that what they say is real...i shouldn't have to take frank or rene or richard's word--this is a public company--show me the docs....
So if you say that it's been taken care of then there should not be a problem right?
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I didnt say he hadn't spoke with him. He has an answer to my question but wouldn't tell me since he didn't have it in writing. We're also forgetting Richard is not an employee of QTN. He is hired work and not in the direct line of communication. Richard is on a need to know basis. Matt
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Way back when this first hit the boards, I posted a reply from Richard that indicated this situation with renewal had been taken care of, it just takes time for WA to get their records updated
Yes, that really upset me that people were posting and trying to take advantage of that. There were all sorts of claims that QBID was going to spin off QTelevision as a seperate stock and that Frank was going to let the license expire.
As if the whole stock rested on whether or not the license was renewed.
Now we find out the license was renewed and where are the bashers? Oh, they aren't around anymore, or they gave up on the whole argument. You'd expect to see them back here pumping this stock now that the license was renewed or throwing money at the stock, but they just aren't here.
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quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: I didnt say he hadn't spoke with him. He has an answer to my question but wouldn't tell me since he didn't have it in writing. We're also forgetting Richard is not an employee of QTN. He is hired work and not in the direct line of communication. Richard is on a need to know basis. Matt
ah ok, I take my words back then.
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: So if you say that it's been taken care of then there should not be a problem right?
...satisfied the prob i had with it....
Kewl, but in any case it's great to have the DD on the thread
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