quote:Originally posted by 4Art: This is addressed to anyone who wants to answer.
At what price would you sell most or all of your QBID shares?
Hard to say.. depending on what leads to the rise. Honestly I am in for the long, but if the best we could hit was .50 I would sell at that.
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quote:Originally posted by juice: ahhh can you feel the love .005 won't be a problem someday, i for one will never sell. unless of course i need a few hundred tho here or there
juice
...a little unsolicited advice: never say never.
you are right dew-it never say never... i will sell its just a matter of when. and that i have not planned on doing. At thispoint there is no way I can plan to sell because nothing substantial has really happened with the pps yet. of course I could say .01 now but who knows whats going to happen until then, NO one knows for sure. I will never sell for a loss here as I would bail on other stocks, unless of course there is obvious reasons why. at this point I have no reason to sell or plan too. I mean look at what Q has put together in a year. Give it another year, if all the right moves have been made we won't be sitting here planning to sell at .01. JMO
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whatever is the best offered price when frank decides to sell...hopefully over .35
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.25 and i am out for half the rest i will wait for .50 or die holding it.
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One simple question, what is QBID.PK's current "tradeable" float. I don't want to know the outstanding shares, I want to know how many shares I could by today if I had all the money in the world.
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Unless he's an insider, G-invest is like the rest of us and can only guess at the exact float.
quote:Originally posted by Farley: g-invest:
One simple question, what is QBID.PK's current "tradeable" float. I don't want to know the outstanding shares, I want to know how many shares I could by today if I had all the money in the world.
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am about the same. I would probably sell a very small share around .10 but the bulk of my position would be waiting for at least .50
I am hoping that one day it flies past those points fast enough that I can't help but sell for more!
At 14 billion float, this is not likely to hit a $5 billion market cap in the next 5 years unless Frank ends up using profits to buy back shares.
quote:One simple question, what is QBID.PK's current "tradeable" float. I don't want to know the outstanding shares, I want to know how many shares I could by today if I had all the money in the world.
"Tradable float" is not a term I'm familiar with. I assume you mean simply, float, or stock that can be bought or sold without restriction.
I will say this, you cannot buy all of the float with an unlimited money suppy, because there will always be people who have not set sell orders.
The float itself is 14 million. This is confirmed through the following three QBID PRs:
1) Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. Announces Plans To Create Limited Stock Buy Back Program Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc. uncertified share info is 15B shares authorized with 7 1/2 B shares outstanding. Date: Feburary 10th, 2004 Source: http://tinyurl.com/dcg36
2) Q Television Reduces its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. Date: August 2nd, 2005 Source: http://tinyurl.com/72vqo
3) Q Television -- Valued at Ten Times its Current Market Capitalization -- Issues Financials Triangle Multi Media (TMM), ticker: QBID (Q Television being a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media) shares outstanding total fourteen billion and five and one-half billion shares restricted. Date: August 29th, 2005 Source: http://tinyurl.com/ap7pn
The Math: Feb. 2004 - 7.5 billion shares O/S with Frank owning 53% (3.975 billion). No known restricted stock. FLOAT = 3.525 billion.
Aug. 2005 - 19.5 billion shares O/S, none of the float is owned by Frank. A dilution of about 15.5 billion. FLOAT = 14 billion.
5.5 billion is restricted for 3 to 5 years, so dilution into the float = 10.5 billion. Whatever buybacks may have happened were subsequently diluted again.
If you are an employee of Triangle Multi-Media and you would like to correct me on these numbers, please contact me at g-invest-AT-gravito-DOT-com. Otherwise, if you believe I am correct, no action is necessary.
I have repeated this for 1 week now with no correction sent via email from Triangle Multi-Media.
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Correct me if I'm wrong: The float nor the o/s dictate the market cap of a company. The company has an objective value which the pps should eventually reflect (much more readily in otcbb or higher markets). There is nothing about a 15 billion share float that could prevent Q from being worth 5 billion dollars... it would simply mean 5/15 = pps
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am about the same. I would probably sell a very small share around .10 but the bulk of my position would be waiting for at least .50
I am hoping that one day it flies past those points fast enough that I can't help but sell for more!
At 14 billion float, this is not likely to hit a $5 billion market cap in the next 5 years unless Frank ends up using profits to buy back shares.
quote:One simple question, what is QBID.PK's current "tradeable" float. I don't want to know the outstanding shares, I want to know how many shares I could by today if I had all the money in the world.
"Tradable float" is not a term I'm familiar with. I assume you mean simply, float, or stock that can be bought or sold without restriction.
I will say this, you cannot buy all of the float with an unlimited money suppy, because there will always be people who have not set sell orders.
The float itself is 14 million. This is confirmed through the following three QBID PRs:
1) Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. Announces Plans To Create Limited Stock Buy Back Program Triangle Multimedia Limited Inc. uncertified share info is 15B shares authorized with 7 1/2 B shares outstanding. Date: Feburary 10th, 2004 Source: http://tinyurl.com/dcg36
2) Q Television Reduces its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. Date: August 2nd, 2005 Source: http://tinyurl.com/72vqo
3) Q Television -- Valued at Ten Times its Current Market Capitalization -- Issues Financials Triangle Multi Media (TMM), ticker: QBID (Q Television being a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media) shares outstanding total fourteen billion and five and one-half billion shares restricted. Date: August 29th, 2005 Source: http://tinyurl.com/ap7pn
The Math: Feb. 2004 - 7.5 billion shares O/S with Frank owning 53% (3.975 billion). No known restricted stock. FLOAT = 3.525 billion.
Aug. 2005 - 19.5 billion shares O/S, none of the float is owned by Frank. A dilution of about 15.5 billion. FLOAT = 14 billion.
5.5 billion is restricted for 3 to 5 years, so dilution into the float = 10.5 billion. Whatever buybacks may have happened were subsequently diluted again.
If you are an employee of Triangle Multi-Media and you would like to correct me on these numbers, please contact me at g-invest-AT-gravito-DOT-com. Otherwise, if you believe I am correct, no action is necessary.
I have repeated this for 1 week now with no correction sent via email from Triangle Multi-Media.
You state 14 million in one sentence and 14 billion in others... Does'nt matter. We could have a 14 Million float and the PPS would still be .0013 Posts: 1124 | From: DC/VA | Registered: Jul 2005
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I am only going to comment on this one item as you are nothing less than full of yourself:
quote:Trust me, they would most certainly want to deal with me, because I have more to offer them than *my* investment.
That has got to be the most self centered, self serving, egotistical, arrogant statement I have ever heard. You have one little follower and claim he is the smartest investor on the board? You not only insulted every single person on this board but slapped them in the face with ignorance.
You have nothing to offer anybody except a pathetic attitude problem. The last thing anyone will do is TRUST YOU!
If you are such blessed with intellegence, why did you not apply for one of the jobs Q was offering? or did you and where turned down?
quote:Originally posted by g-invest:
quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: I am not seeing a whole lot of backing on your part as well. Until the audit is posted, you’re just guessing as well. The PR you are using is incomplete information as well as you have no clue as to when the audit date ends. Also there is no proof the audit is complete.
Fair enough. But you can't look at the same PR and propose 3.5 million in the float by basing your information off something other than PRs and Investor Relations page updates.
quote:I think no one is commenting anymore because they are tired of hearing you ramble on about the same old topic. You will never drop it till you get the last word.You have proven that.
Please by all means, lay out in detail why the float is 3.5 million and I will refute the points and not you.
quote:Here we go again with the dilution crap again. I guess your word is no good when you said you would drop it.
I said I'd drop the IP issue. I did. I will not drop an issue where two or three posters are making guessing about an OS that is listed in a PR.
quote:Lie? And who is trying to confuse who? You should choose your words carefullyYou have done a pretty good job at shoveliing your own opinion in which in you have no solid info as well. You have absolutely no clue as to what the float is. You are also basing your numbers on unaudited figures.
So now you admit that I'm following the PR and not making this stuff up? Cause I don't see any giving here. I have made mistakes, yes. I said that we would see a "reverse head and shoulders" develop last week and I was WRONG. I said the OS was nearly 23 billion before the release of this PR and I was wrong. I wasn't off by much, but I admitted I was wrong.
Why is it so difficult for you to admit that you are wrong about the float?
quote:Scam? You keep on blabbing about everyone is entitled to their own opinion and yet soon as they express their version, your blowing smoke up where the sun does not shine. You ought to try chewing on what your shoveling. Who the hell are you? Homer Simpson? Star of King of the Hill?
This doesn't even justify a response. I will detail my position on why I think you are scamming.
I believe you are knowningly supporting your 3.5 million float number when you know it to be wrong. At first, I thought it was just because you weren't mature enough to own up and admit that Frank was diluting. Now, I think it's because you feel as if you look stupid for investing in a company where the CEO/President was diluting. Which means more to you, making a return on your investment, or how you look on these forums? Cause I'll tell you right now, the only people that give a crap how they look on a forum are of one mindset, they either always pump or always dump.
"stashu" is about the only reasonable investor I've seen on here, willing to look at both sides of the issue. There are others that I cannot mention by forum name, because privately they have PM'd me asking for advice on what to do with their QBID investment: bail or stay. It's these kinds of shaky investors that jump in when you guys endlessly pump this stock, and daytrade and inevitably sell at a loss. I'm doing the best I can to give advice, and have encouraged many to ride it through, but it's difficult when people are spreading erroneous info like you are.
quote:Preventing from pumping? ROFLMAO! You should hide in acloset with a plastic bag over your head! Your swinging both ways and claim Rod is screwing with peoples minds? ROFLMAO! If you want to see a frustrated little boy,look in the mirror.
I'm not going to justify this with a response, either.
quote:Richard and Frank could not care about an undeveloped minow like you. You are definately non-important.
You resort to personal insults because you are unable to formulate an attack on the fact that there is 19.5 billion in the OS and 14 billion in the float.
quote:The last person they would want to talk to is you...because you would just argue with them anyways. If your such a tough guy, you go meet Frank yourself and tell him. ... People like you have no place in business.
Trust me, they would most certainly want to deal with me, because I have more to offer them than *my* investment. They know this. But I'm not going to play the pissing contest, support your 3.5 million float theory.
quote:You respect Penny and yet you call him a lier? Filp,flop,flip flop.
He's confused. Perhaps Richard can confirm the float is 3.5 million for him.
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Why can't we all play in the sandbox togehter? No need to get into a pissing contest. We are all here for one reason: to make some mula. Bashers and Pumpers included. IMO Posts: 1124 | From: DC/VA | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: Unless he's an insider, G-invest is like the rest of us and can only guess at the exact float.
I'm sorry you are unable to read a PR: "shares outstanding total fourteen billion and five and one-half billion shares restricted."
Translated to numbers: fourteen = 14 billion = ,000,000,000 and = + five and one-half = 5.5 billion = ,000,000,000
"Shares outstanding total 14,000,000,000 + 5,500,000,000 shares restricted."
Shares outstanding = 19.5 bil.
Float: "The total number of shares publicly owned and available for trading. The float is calculated by subtracting restricted shares from outstanding shares."
QBID's float is 19.5 billion minus 5.5 billion. Or 14 billion.
Please refute.
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: Why can't we all play in the sandbox togehter? No need to get into a pissing contest. We are all here for one reason: to make some mula. Bashers and Pumpers included. IMO
im with ya dew-it. i only mean to be friendly with all ya investors, not here to pick fights or bicker. i mean come on, that vegas party won't happen with that crap. if vegas does happen it will be more like an allstocks UFC tournament if this continues.
(this may sound sappy) but i think we should encourage each other, especially if he/she is known as someone who contributes more or less to some constructive opinions and ideas on this board. But I don't think bashers/pumpers should be welcomed here, but there are nice ways of getting rid of people, like ignoring them, and I will from now on. I for one enjoy everyone posts equally. We are all in the same boat and its about time we set sail!
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: You state 14 million in one sentence and 14 billion in others...
You're right, my mistake. The faster I type and the more upset I get with certain people on this thread, the more prone to spelling and grammatical mistakes I am.
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: You state 14 million in one sentence and 14 billion in others...
You're right, my mistake. The faster I type and the more upset I get with certain people on this thread, the more prone to spelling and grammatical mistakes I am.
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Come on G, stop spouting all this crap when it has been established that these numbers come from the first quarter of 2005. We will find out if the current numbers are better or worse someday, but for now, you arguement is easily refuted. We know that since that date 53% was removed from the o/s. Assuming nothing else has changed (by no means am I saying nothing has changed) that leaves the float at 6.58 bil. PT can bring that number even lower, and I am not sure how, but the point remains the same. From the sources all this info comes from, the float CAN NOT BE 14 bil.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Q Television Network (OTC: QBID) - Stock Report 9:40am EST
Q Television Network (OTC: QBID) - Stock Report WallStreetNewsCast.com Thu, 08 Sep 2005 9:09 AM PDT (NEW YORK)--Sept. 08, 2005--Ludlow Capital, Inc. an investment research and consulting firm based out of New York City, has published a 6 page stock report on Q Teleivision Network (OTC: QBID).
ahahhaha just what i was gonna ask for... last i saw, it was 13x14 2x8
but this is crazy, normally once we hit 3 or less on the bid, people flood the market with sells and bail...im not gonna say what i think is going on because i dont want to jinx anything! but still expect a downtick
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20 bucks for the ludlow reports now? lol i remember at first they werer 100 bucks a pop or something right??
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Gotta love that Juice. You get what you pay for, and they must be begining to realize that since investors are getting nothing from their reports, they might want to lower the prices.
quote:Originally posted by juice: 20 bucks for the ludlow reports now? lol i remember at first they werer 100 bucks a pop or something right??
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VERT (1) .013 X (4) .0014 SCHB is still closed on .0013 and that is why we have not gone below .0013 today and yesterday.. when all other MM are at .0012 BID. Seems like this is intentional. Maybe I am reading too much into. But if they are closed why not have a BID of .001 or something? Any guesses?
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