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Wednesday, August 17, 2005
Q Television Network Signs an Agreement with Cox Communications


Palm Springs, CA – August 17, 2005 -- Q Television Network (OTCBB Other: QBID), the first 24/7 premium network for the gay and lesbian community, which will be celebrating its one-year anniversary on September 5th, has signed a licensing agreement with Atlanta-based Cox Communications Inc. The nation’s third-largest cable operator will offer its cable systems access to QTN as a premium 24/7 network with video on demand (VOD) capabilities.



“We are thrilled to be selected by Cox Communications as a premium channel in its television line-up,” said Frank Olsen, President, CEO and Founder of Q Television Network. “We applaud Cox's commitment to diversity, and appreciate its recognition of the need to service and give voice to the gay community.”



QTN will be seen as a premium channel available 24 hours 7 days per week with a complementary video on demand (VOD) offering for those who sign up to receive the channel. Q Television offers the GLBT audience premium programming that is diverse, original and live. Currently, Q broadcasts 3½ hours of live programming per night with its original show “On Q Live.” Q Television prides itself on bringing the GLBT community the action as it happens, and recently broadcast 4 parades simultaneously during a 24-hour live marathon from 7 cities.



About Q Television

This 24/7 premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games® VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.



Safe Harbor Statement: As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

Press Release Information Source: Q Television Network

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didn't you had better things to do?
If I read that you could be more a basher than me, I'll tell you why
1.Be anonymous: they now my name all I now about you is the name pennies
2.Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your Bashing routine. Who is calculating things here? like if there are 50 billions O/S it would be worth 0.3.. if 15 billions 0.15 etc... me? I don't think so.
3.Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you: I'm trying to discus, all you say is get a life , your a basher, etc... and your last post is funny more.
4.Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead... If someone has an other upinion you jump on it, like your the only one who knowes everything and your always right, aint you?
5.Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs... Your anonymous so who knowes how many names you have on this board?
6.Accuse board regulars of being multi-posters. Or paid pumpers. Or anything negative that would call their posts into question...that's what you're doing with me!
7.AND THE GOLDEN BASHER RULE: Never admit to being a basher. Especially if you are being paid. Avoid any direct answers to direct questions about your bonafides. Deny everything, demand proof, attack attack attack.


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Originally posted by MillerTIME:
this will help out a lot of people on here...

basher techniques--i would suggest everyone read this!

http://www.nfi-info.net/bashertechnique.htm

let me just say, i have a sneaking suspicsion that 2 of the newer members (past 1 month or two) may find this EVEN more interesting....(basher #1 rule, dont start off as a basher..build a good base with openmindedness and doubt.hmmmm)

->Jonas Invest<-


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they are not going to pr this. Cox doesnt allow pr for there new carriage agreements.

Frank either has to agree or turn down a national carriage deal. what would you prefer he do?

piss them off? and risk loosing carriage or comply and let people find out on thier own?


I am impress that we have a national carriage deal. this is yet another promise that Frank has come through on.

Way to go Frankie.

tell me how this is a bad thing ANYONE I DARE YOU

Rod
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Originally posted by 4Art:
That will be great, but I'll gladly settle for a real PR on the subject. [Cool]

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Originally posted by stockcrazy:
Pretty soon we will be seeing the Q logo on this webpage!

http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/ondemand/svod.asp




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Some hours ago I wass looking for more GLBT in the US, if you'll go back some hours you'll see one of them that i posted is Here!
now if you go look at that site that 4art wrote
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalcable/ondemand/svod.asp
Look and see how's logo is on it , the logo of Here!
About Here! :here!, the nation's first gay and lesbian premium television network, is now available On Demand. here! offers a wide variety of groundbreaking original movies and series, such as the reality series Dante's Cove and Backlot, a behind-the-scenes look at the making of their films. here! also provides the world's largest gay and lesbian film library

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Hi eveyone here is my opinion on it. About Cox..this is just awesome i mean i was surprised and thrilled as most of you here were. Cox probably right now does not want the news published and "in your face" so to speak because of the situation. you got to look at it from certain angles and with Q being gay related and then being picked up by a company with MANY subscribers some of those subscribers might not be happy. then you get protesters, angry calls, churches, etc etc so they might just want to try to be a little more low key. (for now)

regardless of what some radicalls might do it does not matter because this is the beginning of a looonnnnggg and very enriching relationship. a 500BILLION DOLLAR Gay/lesbian market? think about that one!

$999,999,999 X 500!!!!!!

so yeah i think things are great, but my only fear (and its a big one) is a reverse split. now we all now they said no, but we got some new partners here who play on bigger playgrounds. when money talks it changes things so just keep that in mind. HOWEVER, i strongly feel that Frank can pull it off just fine without a R/S due to the worth of the company in the future even with shares in the billions. i dont think he will spend money on share retirement once it gets into the double digit pennies, and i got a hunch saying .10 cents per share is really not that far off. does anyone else like to have a calculator close to you and add up the possibilities you have with Q?


just my opinion...havent posted in a while just got back in country.

enjoy this ride

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seems like those how aren't on the pinks or on the trading market have more succes than Q,
Yeah call me a basher pennies , I now you will, come on pennies, call me a basher because I wrote something that is not in your line of thinking

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its a common tactic to make like they are worried and cant spell and type like they want to sound like they have a problem with english.

that is why i dont bother with them.


Rod


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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
Q isn't the only GLBT, so new stuff to think about, 3 bollion dollars just for Q is much..for those who think that ist worth that.

I like how you play like you are a worried investor. I know that your just trying to bash this company. You would have to be retarded to ask the questions you do and the things you bring to this board.

So either you are just retarded or your a basher.

Get a life.

lol



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you will have to show me that. that is not the way i remembered it.

quote:
Originally posted by sweetness34:
PT not to split hairs but the BET deal was actually less than 3 billion dollars

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
I'm going to interject here

you need to compare apples to apples.

you are comparing a running shoe company to a television network.

lets compare network to network.

The BET channel ran for 5 years and never made a dime. They where bought out by Viacom for 5 billion dollars. that was a nitch market that Viacom saw a market for. It was a minority group that the network catered to.

Now QBID is tailored to a minority group as well the difference being it is one of the most affluent minorities out there with a 610 billion dollar source of expendable revenue.
That is one hell of a lump of cash that the advertising market is looking to get a claw into.

Whiz,s numbers are conservative in nature at best

Rod

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Whiz..
The more i look at your post the more i am troubled.

I don’t mean to pick your DD apart but what kind of research leads you to believe that QBID could be sold for $3billion? When you look at recent mergers and acquisitions like Reebok ($3.8 bill), Instinet Group ($1.9 bill), Ask Jeeves ($1.9 Bill)… where did you come up with your numbers??? I don’t mind people throwing ideas and numbers out there but to throw numbers like $3bill and $7bill is kinda irresponsible even if it is just your opinion.

Again I would love for QBID to be sold at 5 or 6 bill, but right now is that realistic?

If I have missed the point of your post I am sorry but really where did you come up with your numbers??


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Whiz- I really like your breakdown.... But i still have to think that there are more that 10bil o/s. When you see a day like this, it is hard to imagine that 1/10 or more of that total o/s were traded today. Trust me i really hope you're right but i would be shocked if there are 10bil or less o/s.

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Originally posted by whizknock:
I think that now my estimate of 100,000 subscribers by the time of the games might be conservative. But at the very least it would appear that our conjecture is very realistic.
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Consider this!

The bad news first!

Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.

Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.

Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!

What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute.

Now for the good news!

Lets say the audit shows 10 billion shares outstanding (which I still believe is a high estimate) & everything else I said still holds up. First thing I can tell you, if that's the case, frank will not be letting this go for three billion. But say he does. Now we're looking at a FLAT VALUE OF THIRTYTRHEE CENTS A SHARE!

I'm not done!

The reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID. Moving to another exchange will be a fringe benefit that will make the product shine a little more.

Remember the PR about reducing its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050802/25508.html?.v=1

"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market," said Olsen. "Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock. Q Television will continue to be as aggressive as possible, and do everything necessary to ensure our shareholders are treated fairly."
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This isn't about manipulation! Frank doesn't give a $h!t about MMs. Well maybe a little bit but this was about polishing the product.

Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!

Personally I like Frank having complete control. Let's just pretend that that Frank, you know, the same Frank that has already sold a profitable media enterprise to Sumner Redstone. Lets just pretend he really wants this thing to be sold & actually kept the share count at or around 4 billion outstanding or less & lets pretend we're even close to actually reporting a profit by the end of the second quarter of 2006.

He will sell! He will sell while he has the attention of major players! And it will not be for three billion dollars! Now you're looking at a bare minimum of 5 billion dollars Maybe as much as 7 billion. If QBID actually showing a profit & we're getting international attention in 40 countries you could even make an argument for,,,,use your imagination!!!!

The hell with it! I'll stay with 5 billion dollars. Factor in Frank's 53% controlling interest which has now been reduced to a handfull of super voting shares & we're starting to see the big picture.

FIVE BILLION DOLLARS & FOUR BILLION SHARES!

This will not come as a huge surprise to me because Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.

I've said it many times. I will not begin to liquidate my core position until I see $1.25 a share!

From my very humble vantage point,,,

"All we ever had to do is launch!"

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
just my opinion...havent posted in a while just got back in country.

Hi CCM,

Glad you're home safe. Welcome back.

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so in your eyes I'm a basher? you want prove that I'm not? I can give you, just ask, and I'll give you prove that I'm not, then you'll see that your wrong.
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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
its a common tactic to make like they are worried and cant spell and type like they want to sound like they have a problem with english.

that is why i dont bother with them.


Rod


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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
Q isn't the only GLBT, so new stuff to think about, 3 bollion dollars just for Q is much..for those who think that ist worth that.

I like how you play like you are a worried investor. I know that your just trying to bash this company. You would have to be retarded to ask the questions you do and the things you bring to this board.

So either you are just retarded or your a basher.

Get a life.

lol




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I don't doubt that Q is going up, but can't I have my own upionin here without being seen as an basher?

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Speaking of fractured English; how I wish Bung Diddler would come back to pay a visit. I ACTUALLY was rolling on the floor laughing! If we only knew what the man in the red suspenders was thinking we could sort this out much better.

Bung, come out come out, wherever you are!

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The Co. is ********** It may be just a scam i don't know
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niether does Rebok but you brought that here.

but i have to argue that fact. this information means alot.

it is the largest valued minority market out there. that is huge. the GLBT market is about he same size as the hispanic market, but has alot more money to spend. they hispanic market has over 30 channels that are all raking in big bucks.

this number is a very important number in our valuation of what we will be worth.

Jonas, i really suggest you think about what you are saying before you start posting.

compairing rebok to Q is not relevent. but looking at the money that the GLBT market has has a lot to do with this thread.

Rod

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yeah that i saw also some days ago , but that doesn't mean anything
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A marketing survey in the US by Simmons Market Research Bureau shows the annual value of the gay and lesbian market is in excess of $514 Billion (US).

http://365gay.com/Corp/ads.htm




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and now they haven't anything to say anymore, also on facts you don't have an answer, did you checkt it, the logo of Here! ? on the website of Cox?or take the easy way again and call me a basher!

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then sell then

but i know your not bashing


quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
somethings wrong... and it isn't the MM



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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
and now they haven't anything to say anymore, also on facts you don't have an answer, did you checkt it, the logo of Here! ? on the website of Cox?or take the easy way again and call me a basher!

Why don't you take a break and come back when you sober up.
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so why can't I post the link ?? Anyway it is buyins and it is a dot net. Good site here, I assume it keeps the spammers out. Good luck to all who are long, If Cox did not get a good look at the books we would have not gotten the deal.
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Its an good idee, I've to be in bed now its already 0.44 here(in Belgium)and i have to be out at 05.15, so see you all tommorow!

Jonas (the basher for some people) [Smile]
ask prove and I'll give you that I'm not, with those last worths I'm going to sleep.

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and now they haven't anything to say anymore, also on facts you don't have an answer, did you checkt it, the logo of Here! ? on the website of Cox?or take the easy way again and call me a basher!

Why don't you take a break and come back when you sober up.


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quote:
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Its an good idee, I've to be in bed now its already 0.44 here(in Belgium)and i have to be out at 05.15, so see you all tommorow!

Jonas (the basher for some people) [Smile]
ask prove and I'll give you that I'm not, with those last worths I'm going to sleep.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
and now they haven't anything to say anymore, also on facts you don't have an answer, did you checkt it, the logo of Here! ? on the website of Cox?or take the easy way again and call me a basher!

Why don't you take a break and come back when you sober up.

Goodnight Jonas
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hmmmmmm is it just me or did your english all of a sudden just get better here.

?????????????


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seems like those how aren't on the pinks or on the trading market have more succes than Q,
Yeah call me a basher pennies , I now you will, come on pennies, call me a basher because I wrote something that is not in your line of thinking



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that was by far the funniest day i have ever seen in here. that was a riot. whoever was playing that part was doing a great job.

rod

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Speaking of fractured English; how I wish Bung Diddler would come back to pay a visit. I ACTUALLY was rolling on the floor laughing! If we only knew what the man in the red suspenders was thinking we could sort this out much better.

Bung, come out come out, wherever you are!



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im not sure what you are trying to say about here

but we all know about here. it is a ppv service that is in 44 million homes. it is a terrible service that i have in my home. they play the same 3 shows for weeks on end.

they are terrible. no live shows.

they are not a threat so dont worry about them.

Rod

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and now they haven't anything to say anymore, also on facts you don't have an answer, did you checkt it, the logo of Here! ? on the website of Cox?or take the easy way again and call me a basher!



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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cnbc naked shorting video... mildly interesting.

mms://streaming.vmsdigital.com:80/080805/NDV32712_01.wmv

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you know why do some people here still think its a scam? i mean...what more do you need besides a soon to be released audit?
i wonder if Cox has seen the audit results before signing Q and thats what made them say yes

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that was interesting. 200,000 float and shorted to 6 million shares. that is a bad situation.

lol

thanks for the link i enjoyed that

Rod

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Originally posted by Aquapurity:
cnbc naked shorting video... mildly interesting.

mms://streaming.vmsdigital.com:80/080805/NDV32712_01.wmv



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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
its a common tactic to make like they are worried and cant spell and type like they want to sound like they have a problem with english.

that is why i dont bother with them.


Rod


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Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
Q isn't the only GLBT, so new stuff to think about, 3 bollion dollars just for Q is much..for those who think that ist worth that.

I like how you play like you are a worried investor. I know that your just trying to bash this company. You would have to be retarded to ask the questions you do and the things you bring to this board.

So either you are just retarded or your a basher.

Get a life.

lol


lol very true rod.. I was bored at work and the guy posts way to much.. lol

Anyways still long and strong and glad you are here every night with all the info you bring to the board.

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Any predictions for tomorrow?
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more weird trades


for sure


lol

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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I'm really curious to know what all those after-hours trades signified... lots of trades for odd quantities one right after the other for 17 minutes, ranging from .0015 to .0018. Very weird
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just for grins... i emailed stuart elliott from the ny times to find out about the out professionals event last night. we'll see what he comes back with or he might just save for the paper itself

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Here's my prediction for tomorrow... surprise symbol change to QBID.OB. And by prediction I mean ridiculous fantasy.
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My .02 cents worth which would now be worth approx. 12.5 shares. I really believe Cox would not sign up Q unless it had a strong reason to believe that this company (Q Television) is here to stay for awhile. The reputation of the cable company is at stake so I would bet that they have done a fairly decent background check on Q before adding them to their system lineup.

Everyone has been waiting for the Audit and removal from the pink sheets. There are tons of investors that will not touch a pink sheet stock. I firmly believe that when we move to the OTCBB this stock will do what we all most desire (Rise).

My only problem is what a realistic limit is? .10 cents or $10 dollars. I believe it is somewhere in the .10 cents to .50 cents range until they become profitable next year but who knows? I am hoping for the $10 dollars but I believe greed will set in way before then [Smile]

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