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Hey guys you may think I am totally nuts(as my wife glares at me)but I have created an account on gay.com(I am straight...wife,2 little ones).And with the account I have logged onto several chat rooms and explained Q. I am not misleading them about being gay or not,just talking about our Qbaby. You would not believe the response. First they really haven't heard of Q and they are very interested. I have given them the website and told them to click on the banner at the top of the site to request q. Hope this is a good idea and legal...LOL
Yes I am this dedicated to see Q thrive!!
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Does anybody know what the next city is on Q's 40 city tour. Or if it is still on at all? I'm curious. Holding long!!! Go Q!
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Published Saturday, April 23, 2005
New Channels Seek Gay Audience
By DAVID BAUDER The Associated Press
NEW YORK -- Three new TV networks catering to gay and lesbian viewers are trying to establish themselves and all say they support one another -- at least publicly.
Competition breeds interest and shows doubters the business is viable, said Frank Olsen, president of the Q Television Network. He once applied the same theory when he owned four gay and lesbian bars near each other in Seattle.
"I think there's room for all three of us," said Olsen, whose network is the underdog of the trio. "We're different types of channels, just like you have ABC, NBC and CBS."
Sure to be the most visible is MTV Networks' Logo, scheduled to start as a basic cable network on June 30. Q and Here are both pay services operating now and available to a limited number of viewers.
(Neither Bright House Networks nor Comcast offer these networks to Polk subscribers yet.
"We don't have any plans to add them at this time, but we are always surveying our customers to find out what channels and programming are of interest to them," said Dan Ballister, Bright House's Tampa Bay spokesman.)
The gay and lesbian community has been underserved by the media and these channels are long overdue, said Damon Romine, entertainment media director for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.
"There's definitely an audience out there that is hungry to see their stories being told," he said. "We've seen this with the tremendous success of `Queer as Folk' and `The L Word.' "
Logo has two original series that will be ready this summer. One is "Noah's Arc," about a black gay screenwriter from California and his friends, and the other is "My Fabulous Gay Wedding," a comic makeover reality show.
Otherwise, Logo will rely heavily on movies and documentaries until it is better established. Logo has acquired the rights to films such as "Angels in America" and "Moulin Rouge," and has documentaries about a gay rugby team in Chicago and the gay rodeo circuit.
"It will be programmed to the sensitivity of a basic cable audience," said Nicole Browning, president of MTV Networks' affiliate sales and marketing unit.
Logo's ride to reality hasn't exactly been smooth. It spent years on parent company Viacom's back burner, and already has seen its starting date postponed from February. This year's delay was partly to get more programming in place but was also because it only had agreements to be in 2 million to 3 million of the nation's nearly 110 million television homes.
Browning was quoted recently as saying she had found some resistance to the idea of a gay and lesbian network in meetings with cable or satellite providers. One executive threatened resignation if Logo were launched in the company's territory. She downplayed that in a subsequent interview.
"While there may be some initial trepidation, once they really understand what we're doing, the breadth of the audience and the breadth of the programming, they understand there is a great business opportunity," she said.
She said Logo will begin in 10 million homes, a significant percentage of the roughly 45 million homes with digital service. Logo isn't trying to reach analog homes.
Political trepidation is one of the reasons Paul Colichman, Here's CEO believes his business plan is superior. Interested viewers can subscribe to Here full time, for an evening or for individual programs.
"Unless you want the channel, you don't receive it," he said.
Colichman claims ownership of the largest gay and lesbian film library in the country, with such titles as "The Crying Game," "Longtime Companion" and "Gods and Monsters," which he produced. He has original series on gay families, how gay couples met and a supernatural soap opera called "Dante's Cove."
"Look at HBO and Showtime and what they do and compare it to a basic cable channel, and that's where you will see the difference between Here and Logo," he said.
Roughly 80 percent to 85 percent of homes with digital satellite or cable can order Here, he said.
But Browning noted there's a big difference in visibility between an advertiser-supported network like Logo, which will be seen continually in millions of homes, and a subscriber service whose audience is likely to only count in the thousands at any given time.
Q is aggressively marketing itself but, to date, is only available on the small RCN satellite service. Olsen said it would be available in 16 million homes by June. Olsen concedes his rivals have shut him out of the market for many films.
It has a documentary series, "In FoQus," which is preparing a tribute to Elizabeth Taylor, and a morning talk show that recently changed its name from "Good Morning Gay America" to "Gay Day" after representatives of ABC's "Good Morning America" threatened legal action, he said.
When Viacom announced it was going ahead with Logo, Olsen said he started getting phone calls from cable companies returned.
"Having a company like Viacom validate the niche automatically made the concept of a gay-oriented channel more viable," Colichman said.
quote:Originally posted by Rich735: Hey guys you may think I am totally nuts(as my wife glares at me)but I have created an account on gay.com(I am straight...wife,2 little ones).And with the account I have logged onto several chat rooms and explained Q. I am not misleading them about being gay or not,just talking about our Qbaby. You would not believe the response. First they really haven't heard of Q and they are very interested. I have given them the website and told them to click on the banner at the top of the site to request q. Hope this is a good idea and legal...LOL
Yes I am this dedicated to see Q thrive!!
It seems like a good idea to me, if like you said it's legal. I was on the RCN website yesterday and noticed that of all the cities and states it operates in only San Francisco, New York, and Massachusetts carry Q Television. I'm sure it probably has something to do with seeing how gay TV will do in markets that are more accepting of that kind of programming or something, but I was wondering what a group of investors like us could do to try and get them to start broadscasting to Chicago, Philly, Washington D.C., etc.
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quote:Originally posted by Rich735: Hey guys you may think I am totally nuts(as my wife glares at me)but I have created an account on gay.com(I am straight...wife,2 little ones).And with the account I have logged onto several chat rooms and explained Q. I am not misleading them about being gay or not,just talking about our Qbaby. You would not believe the response. First they really haven't heard of Q and they are very interested. I have given them the website and told them to click on the banner at the top of the site to request q. Hope this is a good idea and legal...LOL
Yes I am this dedicated to see Q thrive!!
It seems like a good idea to me, if like you said it's legal. I was on the RCN website yesterday and noticed that of all the cities and states it operates in only San Francisco, New York, and Massachusetts carry Q Television. I'm sure it probably has something to do with seeing how gay TV will do in markets that are more accepting of that kind of programming or something, but I was wondering what a group of investors like us could do to try and get them to start broadscasting to Chicago, Philly, Washington D.C., etc.
Don't worry about Chicago, thats been taken care of.
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quote:Originally posted by firefly: ghosty you need to answer why the charts look bad. You made the statement now back it up. Why do the charts look bad?
Do not like how the boiling bands are looking. Or cash flow.
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That RSI shows way over sold..Watch out, this stock could explode in a upward direction next week!...We could have a 50% gainer.Good luck to all!!!
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Ghosty,,the trend on this stock is a very hard call...I am not a technical trader on the pinks..I go on volume..This stock has a human element you can not see ,,emotion..The RSI shows a emotional factor, [ shaking out weak hands ] The MM'S took advantage of that and walked it down...They know something!!!!!They are accumulating..
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Anyone who has any idea of the potential of this stock is accumulation
Go Qbid!!! Long, Strong and Accumulation
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posted April 18, 2005 19:09 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Doctoall: Okay so I sent this e-mail to Wendy Donnan at OutTV this morning and here is her reply. I was very surprised to get this reply so fast
Rock on "Q" rock on.
Hello, Wayne.. you may get your wish! We are currently in discussions with QTV to exchange a branded block of programming that will air on each others networks.. They have sent us material to review which I am in the process of doing. Thanks for taking the time to email! Wendy Wendy Donnan Director of Programming and Operations
6166954 Canada Inc. "OUTtv" and "HARD on PrideVision" 491 Church Street Suite 200 Toronto, Ontario M4Y 2C6
call 1-877- PRIDE TV or your local cable or satellite provider and subscribe to PrideVision TV today! ----- Original Message ----- From: Doctoall To: inquiries@pridevisiontv.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Q Television
Dear Mr. Craig: I would truly appreciate it if your new television company OutTV would start carrying the original programming of Q Television out of Palm Springs. I am a viewer of Q and I must say that their programming is awesome. I feel that the Canadian viewers would truly appreciate what this company has done to promote the GBLT life style.
Please consider carrying the “Q”. I am confident that your company stands to gain by the broadcasting of Q Television.
Look for some news on this within the next 7-10 days, OutTV needs the "Q" more than ever. Its going to happen, you can count on it
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Hello, Wayne.. you may get your wish! We are currently in discussions with QTV to exchange a branded block of programming that will air on each others networks.. They have sent us material to review which I am in the process of doing.
Look for their answer soon "Qtelevision coming soon to an OutTV screen.
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Just noticed that "Q" added the RCN symbol to their website
RCN is now carrying Qtelevision on channel 255 in the San Francisco area, Queens NY,Manhatten NY and Boston MA.
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quote:Originally posted by Peaser01: If you all haven't seen this yet. Check it. If ya haven't seen this yet and wanna pass along some stars, that would be sweet too.
That's really cool. That banner cost some money to make. The other logo items and just the event itself must have cost quite a bit too. My faith in the company is still there, I'm just really burnt on the delay for the Oxygen ads. I hope they plan on airing them before the end of the month.
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I know I don't post much here but I was just thinking about this Oxygen/Carrier thing. If the Oxygen spots are to be used as "infomercials for the viewer", then some action by the viewer will be expected at the end of these infomercials. "Call your local cable company to subscribe, etc." I doubt if they would run these and then ask the viewer to "Call your local cable company and ask them to think about providing Q to its viewers". Now no way would they would run these spots as "infomercials for the carrier", to attract carriers. That would be akin to running an ad in a newspaper saying "carriers wanted". Potential carriers have access to the programming that Q offers already. Now I would hope that the first scenario is true, but another possibility is that these spots are being used as a gauge of public reaction before a carrier signs on the dotted line.
Regardless, it shall be clear at the end of the first infomercial when we see what kind of action the viewer is asked to take.
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whizknock....you say a run is due, but you don't know why?...Thats called instincts,,man I am with ya..
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Dustoff, yesterday you wrote that this is an emotional stock, which I agree with. It's part of what is so interesting about owning shares in it. You said that the MM's were taking advantage of this to walk down the pps so as to accumulate more because they know something. I'm wondering, do you think that they possibly know something specific that we don't know, or could know with better DD, or do you think they are going by their instincts. Good posts by the way.
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LEO....They know something, you can bet your you know what on it...I don''t think it's the stardard DD info us little guys can find...Also it's just that I got this strong hunch [[ fishermans luck probably ]]... I have had it all week-end..I hope my hunch ain't GREED!!
I know thats a screw-ball stock analysis, but I just can't shake this feeling..
It's just that this stock is way oversold and in combination with PPS I think it's a no brainer this baby is gonna run!!!!
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I'm married to a commercial salmon fisherman and I trust her hunches, they are usually right on the money. I like your analysis, even if it is screw-ball, I have the same feeling. I'm holding on tight here for that run, good luck!
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Man I hope your hunches make us bunches$$$$$LOL!! At this point all of us longs are emotionally in this stock.Which I hear isn't good...oh well. I know you aren't suppose to fall in love with your stock either...but. This is possibly going to be a life changing event if she pans out for us. So I am a little in love.Stop!!!! I am not Pumping in anyway!!Wanted to make that clear.
I think stashu has a good brainstorm. We have had 2 delays in airing on O. That may be a good thing,because Q wants to do the right thing for the carrier...carrier? IMHO I think we have several lookers if not inked projects. 200 CEO's at the NCTA. Something is up,I'm glad I am in low and am ready for the ride.
Don't let us down Q!! Take off baby!!
Rich
(All statements are IMO.Don't buy or sell because of my comments.)
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Rich this stock is out of our hands..[ The little guys ]...If it starts to run,, pumping, bashing,, heck standing on your head whistling Dixie will not make one bit of a difference,.....There are lots of people IMO who watch and wait for a QBID PPS in this range...The mm,s have plenty of shares... So if they decide to let it rip,,it's gone...
As you know news does'nt mean that much any more...It's all in the hands of the MM'S...
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LOL Dustoff,I Can't wait to get on an exchange. I understand from other posters that MM's can't control stocks on exchange's. Is that true guys?
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call me Dusty if Ya'll want, it's faster to type and the Commissioned and Warrent Officers and enlisted men that flew the Dustoff missions would'nt mind...
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