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Looking back at past PR's I am wondering what the results were on some of these PR's that mention drilling.
Like this one for instance -
Story:

Diamond driller targets Weirdale...READ READ READ...

BARRY GLASS/Daily Herald

Saturday, February 21, 2004

A small company has made big plans for diamond exploration work in the Prince Albert region this year.
Casavant Mining Kimberlite International recently announced it purchased its own drill rig and received financing to get started.

The company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres in the province in an area stretching from north of Candle Lake down to St. Louis.

“We anticipate to start drilling up by Weirdale,” said company president Urban Casavant.

Weirdale is 58 kilometres northeast of Prince Albert and close to the Fort à la Corne claims of other companies drilling for diamonds.

Casavant Mining’s drilling program should begin within a month or so.

“It’s going to be an aggressive program,” said Casavant.

“We figure if we have no problems we can drill a hole a week.”

He wants to drill several properties over the next two years at a cost of about $10 million.

The company announced Friday a longtime individual investor in the company has put in $1.8 million US with a pledge of another $3.2 million US upon completion of a feasibility study and core sampling results.

Casavant Mining is a Las Vegas-based company publicly traded in the over-the-counter securities markets.

Being located in the United States gives the company access to the money needed for its planned drilling, said the president.

He said once people know how much work is involved in diamond exploration, they understand what it takes to get a mine into production.

“It takes money and money and money and a little bit of luck,” he said.

The company also has interests in property near Green Lake, 180 kilometres northwest of Prince Albert.

Casavant Mining will use an outside contractor for drilling in that area so its own rig can stay in the Fort à la Corne region.

Casavant said he’s happy to be at this stage.

“I’ve been at this prospecting and claiming land for about 15 years now,” said the self-taught prospector. “So I’ve been chasing this for a long time, and it’s finally all going to come together.”

The company is involved with many other companies in joint ventures in the area, he said, adding it also hope to do aerial survey work in the near future.

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1. “We anticipate to start drilling up by Weirdale,” said company president Urban Casavant.
*What was the result?

2. “It’s going to be an aggressive program,” said Casavant.
*So aggressive they are too busy to file!

3. “We figure if we have no problems we can drill a hole a week.”
*Okaaay... where are all these holes? And what was found? Alot of WEEKS have past!

4. The company also has interests in property near Green Lake, 180 kilometres northwest of Prince Albert.
*Is this the same parcel as the zinc?
If so it then we already have interests in that other Casavant co.

5. The company announced Friday a longtime individual investor in the company has put in $1.8 million US with a pledge of another $3.2 million US upon completion of a feasibility study and core sampling results.
*Who is/was & did we lose this investor because the core samples sucked?

6. Casavant Mining will use an outside contractor for drilling in that area so its own rig can stay in the Fort à la Corne region.
*And how much will this cost?
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I too have a feeling CMKM reads these boards, If I were in thier shoes - I know I would. It seems when we are all screaming for PR's at once they cough up something. Not what we want just something to try and pacify until they try and lock us in with these weak and untradable stock dividends. Cash dividends would be a hell-of-alot more appealling.

If this company is in fact drilling I would rather the money be reinvested in to the drilling program. Instead they are out there trying to pump this already VERY well known stock in race cars. Unless of course they had dumped ALOT of shares.

The promo has NOT affected the increase in shares sold. As a matter of fact over the past week I have been noticing a slight decline day by day.


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Out of curiousity does anyone know the age of Urban Casavant?

I want to check it against some info. I have been sitting on the past couple weeks.


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CFO "Dave" Desormeau - I dug up some information under "DAVID" Desormeau which shows legal files of some illegal dealings.

COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY
NELSON CIRCUIT COURT
NO. ___03-CI-00190_____
COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY ex rel.
ALBERT B. CHANDLER III, ATTORNEY GENERAL
PLAINTIFF
VS. COMPLAINT
B & B WORM FARMS, INC.
RR1 BOX 163B
MEEKER, OK 74855
Serve: Secretary of State
Registered Agent:
David Desormeau
1603 Mowbray Ct
Henderson NV 89014
and
LYNN BRADLEY, Individually
DEFENDANTS
RR1 BOX 163B
MEEKER, OK 74855
Serve: Secretary of State
* * * * * * * * *
Comes the Plaintiff Commonwealth of Kentucky ex rel. Albert B. Chandler III, Attorney
General, and for its claim for relief states as follows:
I. Parties, Jurisdiction, Venue
1. Plaintiff Albert B. Chandler III is the duly elected Attorney General of the
Commonwealth of Kentucky and is authorized by KRS 367.817 and KRS 367.190 to bring this
action in the name of the Commonwealth. The Attorney General has reason to believe that the
Defendant is using, has used, or will continue to use acts or practices described by KRS 367.170
and KRS 367.805 to be unlawful. The Attorney General has determined these proceedings to be
in the public interest.
2. Defendant B & B Worm Farms, Inc. (hereinafter “B&B”) is a Nevada
Corporation with a business address of RR1 Box 163B, Meeker, Oklahoma 74855 and, as more
fully set forth hereafter, has engaged in the practice of selling or offering to sell business
opportunities throughout Kentucky including but not limited to Nelson County without
registering with Plaintiff or posting surety bond as required by law. Accordingly, jurisdiction
and venue are proper pursuant to KRS 367.190 and KRS 367.817.
3. Upon information and belief, Defendant Lynn Bradley is the acting President,
Secretary, Treasurer and is a Director of Defendant B&B and has an address of RR1 Box 163B,
Meeker, Oklahoma, 74855.
4. Service is through the Secretary of State pursuant to KRS 454.210.
5. Claims stated against Defendant arise from the transactions of business within the
Commonwealth of Kentucky.
II. Conduct
6. Defendant B&B through its late President Greg Bradley and his wife, Defendant
Lynn Bradley and others, have offered for sale to Kentucky consumers and farmers a “business
opportunity” as defined in KRS 367.801(5). The business opportunity involves the sale by
Defendants of live worms to investors who pay a required minimum consideration in excess of
$500.00 and execute a contract with B&B, an example of which is attached hereto as Exhibit A
and incorporated by reference.
The essential terms of the contract include the following provisions:
A. A minimum required purchase price paid by the consumer/farmer in the range of
$2,000.00 to $60,000.00 in exchange for a large number of “breeder worms”;
B. A “buy back” policy in which B&B commits to purchase any amount of live
worms per month from the consumer/farmer (minimum of 100 lbs.) at a
guaranteed minimum price ranging from $7.00 to $9.00 depending on the
contract.
7. Defendants, their agents and employees have represented, directly or indirectly,
that they have knowledge of the market and market demand will enable the consumer/farmer to
earn a profit from the business opportunity.
8. Defendant has failed to register with the Attorney General as a business
opportunity and provide the information required by KRS 367.805 (see affidavit of Angela M.
Rhodes, attached hereto as Exhibit “B” and incorporated by reference). Therefore, a business
opportunities registration number has not been assigned to Defendants and such could not be
displayed in any advertisements.
9. Defendants has failed to furnish to the Attorney General the bond required by
KRS 367.815 prior to offering for sale a business opportunity (see Rhodes affidavit, exhibit “B”
hereto)
10. Defendants were aware of the requirement to register and bond with the Attorney
General as there had been correspondence from the Attorney General. Nevertheless, Defendants
but sold hundreds of contracts to Kentucky consumers in willful disregard of the law. (see
Rhodes affidavit, exhibit “B” hereto).
11. Upon information and belief, Defendants have sold to more than 561 Kentucky
consumers and possibly as many as 800 or 900.
12. Upon information and belief, Defendants have made false, misleading and or
deceptive representations concerning the business opportunity which have been relied upon by
consumers/farmers who have paid Defendants to participate in the business opportunity
including the following:
A: That Defendants have obtained commitments or contracts for the sale of
worms to “end users” other than other consumers/investors sufficient to
provide financial resources to honor their commitments to all
consumers/farmers that entered into contracts with Defendants, when in
fact the only purchasers of other worms appear to be other
consumers/farmers or to be extensions of B & B but not independent end
users.
13. Upon information and belief, Defendants induced consumers/investors into
buying worms by offering to paid a commission to any enrolled worm grower who
referred another Kentucky consumer who signed a contract. The commission was
approximately 10% of the amount paid by the new enrollee to Defendants. Such
payment for referral of additional purchasers is illegal pursuant to KRS 367.350.
III. Violations of the Consumer Protection Act
14. Paragraphs 1-13 are incorporated herein.
15. KRS 367.805(1) states:
It is unlawful for any person to engage in the sale of
business opportunities unless prior to the offering the
offeror has registered with the [consumer protection]
division and has furnished a bond pursuant to KRS
367.815(2) and provided all of the following [registration
information] . . .
16. KRS 367.170 provides that “Unfair, false, misleading, or deceptive acts or
practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce are hereby declared
unlawful.”
17. KRS 367.350 states:
With respect to a credit sale, cash sale or lease to a
consumer, the seller or lessor may not give or offer to give
a rebate or discount or otherwise pay or offer to pay value
to the buyer or lessee as an inducement for a sale or lease in
consideration of his giving to the seller or lessor the names
of prospective purchasers or lessees, or otherwise aiding
the seller or lessor in making a sale or lease to another
person, if the earning of the rebate, discount or other value
is contingent upon the occurrence of an event subsequent to
the time the buyer or lessee agrees to buy or lease. If a
buyer or lessee is induced by a violation of this section to
enter into a cash or credit consumer sale or consumer lease,
the agreement is unenforceable by the seller or lessor and
the buyer or lessee, at his option, may rescind the
agreement or retain the goods delivered and the benefit of
any services performed, without any obligation to pay for
them.
18. The conduct of the Defendants described in paragraphs 6 through 13
above is in violation of KRS 367.805(1) and such violation is willful as Defendant knew
or should have known of its obligation to register and post a bond but failed to do so.
19. The conduct of the Defendant described in paragraphs 6 through 13 above
is unfair, false, misleading, or deceptive in violation of KRS 367.170 and such violation
is willful as Defendant knew or should have known of its obligations to register and post
a bond but failed to do so and knew or should have known that the representations made
to consumers/farmers were false, misleading and/or deceptive; and knew or should have
know that referral commissions were illegal.
WHEREFORE, Plaintiff respectfully requests the Court to grant the following
relief:
A. For a judgment that Defendant has engaged in the conduct described in
paragraphs 6 through 13 of the Complaint and that such conduct is in willful violation of
KRS 367.805; in willful violation of KRS 367.170; and in willful violation of KRS
367.350
B. For a restraining order, temporary injunction, and permanent injunction
restraining and enjoining Defendant, directly or indirectly, its agents, employees, and any
and all others acting in active concert or participation with it from selling or offering to
sell business opportunities to consumers/farmers in the Commonwealth of Kentucky
unless and until such time as Defendant has registered with the Attorney General and
provided the information required by KRS 367.805, has displayed the registration
number on all advertising as required by KRS 367.809, and has posted the surety bond as
required by KRS 367.815(2);
C. Pursuant to KRS 367.990, that a civil penalty be assessed against the
Defendant in the amount of $2,000.00 for each willful violation of KRS 367.170;
D. For cancellation of any contracts for sale of a business opportunity made
in Kentucky and return of funds to consumers pursuant to KRS 367.819 and 367.816(6)
at the election of each consumer/farmer who entered into any such contract and elects to
cancel their contract and seek a refund;
E. For court costs expended by Plaintiff, including costs of investigation and
reasonable attorney fees; and
F. For all other relief to which Plaintiff may be entitled.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
ALBERT B. CHANDLER III
ATTORNEY GENERAL
Wanda R. Delaplane
Assistant Attorneys General
Consumer Protection Division
1024 Capital Center Drive
Frankfort, KY 40602
(502)696-5389

___________________________________
Looks as though he had to pay out approx. 1,800,000 in fines! whew!
And this guy is our CFO. wow.


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Take notice of Dave's address in the court action and this filing are the SAME! Same person... same address. Interesting they would use the name "dave" instead of David of which I am sure is his birth name.
____________________________________
Name: CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY
Type: Corporation File Number: C184-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: January 06, 2003
Status: Default Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT
HENDERSON NV 89014-

President: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 30 PRINCIVILLE CT
LAS VEGAS NV 89113-

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT
HENDERSON NV 89074-

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT
HENDERSON NV 89074-


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Another good read - About a Diamond mine stock fraud. Simularities? Interestingly enough!

ZERO DEGREES OF SEPARATION – THE LAST HURRAH?, PART I

DIAMONDS AND DUST – TEODOSIO PANGIA’S JOURNEY FROM ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS WORLDWIDE, INC. (OTCBB: ESWW) TO DIAMOND DISCOVERIES INTERNATIONAL CORP. (OTCBB: DMDD).
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/articles/zero4.html


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quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Another good read - About a Diamond mine stock fraud. Simularities? Interestingly enough!

ZERO DEGREES OF SEPARATION – THE LAST HURRAH?, PART I

DIAMONDS AND DUST – TEODOSIO PANGIA’S JOURNEY FROM ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS WORLDWIDE, INC. (OTCBB: ESWW) TO DIAMOND DISCOVERIES INTERNATIONAL CORP. (OTCBB: DMDD).
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/articles/zero4.html


Maybe you better go to Sterlings class and tell everyone about your finds. I'm sure the people there would appreciate all your hard work. LOL. Get lost dumper scum bag.

goforit


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quote:
Originally posted by will:
... I don't know who the bigger pain in the ass is, the scab or the ones who pick it.

As a scab-picker, I'd have to vote for the scab!


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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
...Where is Pharm? Working? lol when does he work!!! lololol!!!
...

JB, I wasn't working, I was at Universal's Islands of Adventure yesterday.... it was hot and crowded!

I work graveyard shift, but I'm off every other week. That means, I'll be sleeping next week during the day when richness finds a way to get banned again. LOL

BTW, everyone,... richness wasn't banned for saying negative things about CMKX. He was banned because he's a fraud who's accidentally shown his true colors a few times. Just some food for thought.


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TP,
All I see is swayed info. from you up there, mostly not even about CMKX,just bashing one person that works there.
Do you think officials arn't watching them if there as bad as you say they are?
Yet,CMKX is still moving forward.
I'm sure anybody playin' CMKX play it for the tremendous upside.
You know,the early stages of a diamond mining co. getting a foothold in the world.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited July 24, 2004).]


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Hey pharm, you old scab picker, how are ya? I think I need a break from this thread, nothing but bullsh|t and nonsense going back and forth seeing that no one knows nothing. Can everyone say sideways .0003 to .0006 until diamonds are found or O/S are reported. Then is it's up if there is a managable amount of O/S, (which I doubt), or diamonds are found, or down if there are 400B / 500B O/S. Y'all better be praying for diamonds. Until then I have to put up with this nonsense for another month. "It's a scam, I tell ya" , "No, Urban is a genius, I tell ya" , "Roger Glenn worked a miracle, I tell ya" , "Roger Glen died in a stock fraud accident in Kentucky, I tell ya" , "Mt St Helena, I tell ya" , "Diamonds big enough for a flea's ring, I tell ya" , "A trillion naked shorts, I tell ya" , "Why would they short a .0001 stock".
Just let the PPS go up or find some godamn diamonds, so I can quit reading this crap.

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Now that's keepin' it real, Will.HA HA HA.

What I am waiting on...
1. Diamond core samples
2. O/S
3. What the h*ll is going to happen w/ CIM
4. I really hate to say it,prove bashers wrong(but it last on my list.He He.


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quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey pharm, you old scab picker, how are ya? I think I need a break from this thread, nothing but bullsh|t and nonsense going back and forth seeing that no one knows nothing. Can everyone say sideways .0003 to .0006 until diamonds are found or O/S are reported. Then is it's up if there is a managable amount of O/S, (which I doubt), or diamonds are found, or down if there are 400B / 500B O/S. Y'all better be praying for diamonds. Until then I have to put up with this nonsense for another month. "It's a scam, I tell ya" , "No, Urban is a genius, I tell ya" , "Roger Glenn worked a miracle, I tell ya" , "Roger Glen died in a stock fraud accident in Kentucky, I tell ya" , "Mt St Helena, I tell ya" , "Diamonds big enough for a flea's ring, I tell ya" , "A trillion naked shorts, I tell ya" , "Why would they short a .0001 stock".
Just let the PPS go up or find some godamn diamonds, so I can quit reading this crap.


Get lost. your a poor excuse for a basher.

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The bashers/losers have more than you

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Allright, John, I admit I still have less than you (2.5 million) . But my kids own about another 1.5 million, does that count, LOL. I feel good though about buying at 0.0004 today. It was a sale indeed!


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....and you my friend are no better than richnessforpukeface, you don't know what your talking about either. All you have is a different end of the rope. You too are a scab on the ass of humanity.
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Originally posted by goforit72545:

Get lost. your a poor excuse for a basher.

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quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Now that's keepin' it real, Will.HA HA HA.

What I am waiting on...
1. Diamond core samples
2. O/S
3. What the h*ll is going to happen w/ CIM
4. I really hate to say it,prove bashers wrong(but it last on my list.He He.


You were on qbid board a while back bashing that one. You must have a very low self esteem to make a living being a loathsome paid off bashing scab. Go get a real job jerk

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All can be summed up in one line

We have too less to lose and too much to gain

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Now that's keepin' it real, Will.HA HA HA.

What I am waiting on...
1. Diamond core samples
2. O/S
3. What the h*ll is going to happen w/ CIM
4. I really hate to say it,prove bashers wrong(but it last on my list.He He.



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....and all the speculation, supposition, conjecture, opinions, are not going to change the facts, and the facts of this case are not known and yet to be presented and proven.
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
All can be summed up in one line

We have too less to lose and too much to gain



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quote:
Originally posted by will:
....and all the speculation, supposition, conjecture, opinions, are not going to change the facts, and the facts of this case are not known and yet to be presented and proven.

Man you are really a piece of work. Go away you aren't fooling anyone. Quit taking up space for people who really want to get input into this company.

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I have never ever posted on any QBID thread.

And I'm not bashing CMKX, I seriously am waiting on what I wrote above.


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I agree Will.
I got in at 0002, have 5M. The chance of losing $1000 is very lass than making $1000. I already did in the past and I think we will do it again in the future IMO.
All this bickering, name calling will continue until CMKX reaches 0010+ or 0000.

Just wanted to add this.. sad (or funny??) part is people with nagative thoughts are holding this (not selling).

quote:
Originally posted by will:
....and all the speculation, supposition, conjecture, opinions, are not going to change the facts, and the facts of this case are not known and yet to be presented and proven.

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited July 24, 2004).]


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hey goforit,

put up or STFU!


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I'm not negative, Teller, just a realist that recognizes opinions favorable or unfavorable mean little. No one can prove their arguement, because the company has not released the facts.
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
I agree Will.
I got in at 0002, have 5M. The chance of losing $1000 is very lass than making $1000. I already did in the past and I think we will do it again in the future IMO.
All this bickering, name calling will continue until CMKX reaches 0010+ or 0000.

Just wanted to add this.. sad (or funny??) part is people with nagative thoughts are holding this (not selling).

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited July 24, 2004).]



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Will,
I was talking about the people who never had anything possitive about CMKX. Always post nagative stuff more than once every day.
I am signing off now, have a nice weekend everyone.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
I'm not negative, Teller, just a realist that recognizes opinions favorable or unfavorable mean little. No one can prove their arguement, because the company has not released the facts.


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It's worth posting the link to The Bashers Handbook again for the new people that may be reading this board. I'm not calling anyone a basher but you can read it and make up your own mind.
http://www.messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm

Here's a few excerpts that you may find particularly interesting right now. Note # 27.

Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK.

Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES.

Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY.

DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS = BAIL OUT!

Rules for Successful Bashing:

14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.

18. Use questions to create critical thinking.

27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.


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Done reading today...will be back on Monday.
Just marking spot where I ended last. lol
Good weekend everyone. Take a break, I think some of us are really addicted to this site including me....but not as much as 2-3 months ago...

Will, what happened - someone is trying to pick on you

[This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited July 24, 2004).]


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Nah, just another know nothing scab on the other cheek of the ass of humanity. It is REALLY nothing.
I'm hoping for big things from CMKX, but the facts aren't available to call it good or bad, yet.
Have a good weekend Wiz.
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Done reading today...will be back on Monday.
Just marking spot where I ended last. lol
Good weekend everyone. Take a break, I think some of us are really addicted to this site including me....but not as much as 2-3 months ago...

Will, what happened - someone is trying to pick on you

[This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited July 24, 2004).]



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zeninvestor: NITE and NAKED SHORTING
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zeninvestor: NITE and NAKED SHORTING

Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:7/24/2004 12:28:22 PM
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A THOUGHT WORTH REVISITING

I posted this a few days ago and only a few commented on it. I see this as SIGNIFICANT.

From NITE's most recent quarterly results ...

" Knight's OTC and pink sheet volumes surged to more than $376 million in the second quarter, versus $47 million a year ago. Meanwhile, Knight's money derived from trading in Nasdaq and listed equities -- the most lucrative types of trades -- declined to $28.9 million from $37.3 million."
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040721/inancial_knight_1.html


Seems to me there are some numbers in there that should floor EVERYONE. A seven hundred percent increase in ONE YEAR in pink/otc trading? Are you kidding me Why is NITE suddenly so heavy in the pink/otc market? I could understand a 30% increase or heck, even a 100% increase, but when you jump 7x the dollar volume in an area that is supposedly such a small percentage of the overall market, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Then, look at the total numbers. NITE's trading volume in pinks/otcs was $376 million out of a total of $405 million from ALL equities traded. THAT'S 93 PERCENT OF THEIR TRADING VOLUME FROM PINKS/OTCS!!!!

My personal guess is that they have been running naked shorts for some very large hedge funds that have been TREMENDOUSLY successful. Success begets success and these hedge funds IMO were making a TON of money and began to get much bolder in their moves. PLUS, as we know, the SEC began to finally pass some regulations (albeit weak ones) to curb naked shorting. So those that have read up on the issues surrounding the Berlin Exchange and the use of foreign exchanges to circumvent the new shorting rules probably can make the logical assumption that I do -- the hedge funds in this second quarter put the pedal to the metal on shorting pinks/otcs since they knew this game was only going to go on for so much longer before the SEC might effectively put some REAL teeth into regulations regarding naked shorting.

The jump of 700% in NITE's pink/otc trading is STAGGERING. IMO yes it is circumstantial, but it is some of the best circumstantial evidence we've seen I think as to what is really going on here. Again, I sincerely hope that CMKX is a true market EYE OPENER on what is happening and how average America is getting brutalized by some unsavory characters out to plunder blue collar Joe of hard-earned money. All just my opinion of course but a FORCEFUL one (JMFO?).


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.

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Timberman -

Re your post 7/23 20:01: The company and the TA know how many legitimately issued and outstanding shares there are at any given moment in time. There is no reason why they could not release it. Problem there is no one knows how many insider shares or Treasury shares there are. Remember, they could have reissued none, any or all of those Treasury shares back on to the market in some manner.

Up,

Re your post 7/23 at 23:40. I agree that names will be on the 50 naked shorted shares (if they do exist) in my example. However, I suspect those names would be only on the books of the brokers and not with DTC. They definitely would not be with the TA or the Co. Bottom line is the TA or Co would not be able to tell which are naked or valid.

My wife's family is Italian. Must ask her/them to read above. Some words, with a bit of Spanish, I can make out.


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Check this site out. I was visitor #44.
http://cmkx.digitalearthmedia.com/

Have any of you seen this before now?


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More thoughts from Zen regarding Jeff.

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Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:7/24/2004 3:26:49 PM
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MY OPINION RE: JEFF

A lot of people have privately asked me what my thoughts are on JEFF's behavior and whether I think he's a friendly MM to us or if I think Roger has worked out a deal with JEFF or a number of other theories.

Here are my OPINIONS. They are my SPECULATION. They are my GUESSWORK. Take them as such since I have no actual information on what JEFF is doing.

I posted many moons ago an article that tightly tied JEFF to NITE and CRWN (basically that 2 brothers that worked together at NITE split to form JEFF and CRWN). I believe this "family of thieves" has always worked together and probably even share many of the same clients (large hedge funds with offshore accounts). I believe they work in coordination with each other and probably even a few others as well (WIEN has always been one of the usual suspects to me). Personally, while the theory is interesting that maybe Urban is using JEFF in a positive way, I don't buy it.

First off, I don't think Roger would find it appropriate to engage and coordinate with the enemy to what would essentially amount to manipulating the market. The only way I could see this happening is if Roger went to some buddies at the SEC, explained the situation and all agreed that the best way to prevent market chaos was to allow JEFF to help CMKX in a friendly way so that the covering went smoother. I HIGHLY doubt that happened. Personally, I think Roger has contacted the parties he has suspected of naked shorting and in no uncertain terms, told them that CMKX is well aware of what is going on and it would be in their best interests to stop it immediately and cover. IMO, a letter like this from a firm partner at Edwards Angell is likely a first and should have been a HUGE warning sign to them. As I said from the start, pinks and otcs RARELY (if ever) hire a law firm of any significant national reputation.

IMO when that warning letter did not work and the price remained unchanged (or actually was shorted out more), my guess is that Roger may have personally called the General Counsel for the various shorting entities to explain that CMKX was prepared to take significant legal and corporate action and that covering would be wise. This was obviously ignored again. IMO, it was ignored probably because the MMs felt they could still cover more by keeping it suppressed than by raising the bid.

So now one might ask, "Ok, Roger gave them every opportunity so why are we just 'hinting' at things and not dropping the full bomb on them?" My opinion is that even though that would WORK it would still cause greater harm to the market than a process that induces the shorts to cover one step at a time on the way up with REDUCED VOLATILITY. I genuinely believe that if they released the OS at the outset and it was as low as I suspect (10 billion or less) that such a massive level of volatility would result that (pay attention) innocent shareholders could actually be harmed by this. I believe this is being handled the way it is to protect two classes of shareholders:

1. Those that would buy in at the height of the volatility and then sell at a massive loss due to the insane volatility. Many might be swept into the volatility and then the MMs would still be shaking and juking and twisting and these innocent shareholders could suffer huge losses because they are unfamiliar with what is happening.
2. Shareholders who plan on holding long term will be less likely to do so in the event of massive volatility. If the stock were to spike to let's say 25 cents and then drop to 5 cents, you are going to have massive selloffs by even strong longs.

So, this leaves me at this point. I think Roger personally warned the naked shorters. I think they ignored his warnings. I think he still believed it was in EVERYONE's interest (and to protect many from the volatility) that CMKX give the shorts a "nudge" forward. Thus, dividend number one. It did nothing. Dividend number 2. Nothing again. I believe that right now as I said before "the MMs have a choice -- they can do this the painful way or the very painful way, and apparently they have chosen maximum pain." So now I believe we will start getting more substantive details even though it may mean greater volatility than anyone wanted. I think Roger genuinely was trying to protect shareholders and the shorts genuinely refused to cooperate. I think the blows to the shorts will get more and more signficant now. I do NOT personally believe there was ever any coordination between Roger and JEFF or any other market makers.

Now that having been said, I believe it is still possible as an end game that the short position might suddenly agree to a complete buyout to stop the pain. That remains to be seen but my guess is it would only happen if and when the shorts realize that they can NOT cover their position comfortably on the open market. I doubt they feel that way right now even if it means they have to run it into the pennies or dimes. They probably still feel confident that all their tricks and manipulations can shake out all the shares they shorted in a cheaper fashion than a straight buyout.

I used to believe that Roger had a plan to do a straight buyout and solve this whole thing cleanly and simply without relying on the open market. Obviously some things have changed my views on this. I still believe a pure buyout could happen but I don't think it is priority number one.

To recap, it is my OPINION that JEFF, NITE and others are being extremely uncooperative even though I believe Roger has given them enough time and incentive to begin covering. Given the time frame I see developing, I now believe events will become more dramatic and that we will be in for the most talked about roller coaster ride of a stock in the history of the stock market. That is my honest OPINION. By September 1, we'll see how close I was.


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.


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Hi Everyone, I am back and apparently didn't miss much on this board.

The number of shares traded on Friday was more than 4.8 Billion. A lot of days the numbers reported here are significantly less than actual.

TP -Give it a rest. Your constant negativity reads more like bashing than DD. The post about the worm farm was previously dicussed and dismissed. Some of us can remember further back than our last meal. As far as stock patrol goes they are fairly suspect in who and how they 'report on'. It is a tired trick. It has been hauled out too often to be effective. There are elements to CMKX that many may question but the mineral rights haven't been one in any credible way. The CIM shares may not have a monetary value but if it forces a cover we will benefit monetarily in a raised PPS.

Brad-Thank you for you substantive posts on this thread.

Money_Penny -You get my vote for the post of the day For Fridays post:

Oh geeeeeeeez, richness....
You remind me of Jason from Halloween. You know, the creepy guy with the icehockey mask who gets killed at the end of each movie but then there's another sequel and Jason rises from the dead again? You know, there never is a happy ending for Jason...no matter how many time he comes back!

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I have been thinking about JEFF on .0005, .0004 and now .0003? for what seems like forever. If he had been involved in helping UC retire shares he may be getting ready to cannibalize his friends. He could be selling shares he previously purchased at sub .0001. He is looking like he is naked shorting and he may be just window dressing so it looks like business as usual. When the time to cover is here he may be one wealthy MM. That is just a guess; for all I know he could be actually naked shorting. But something is going on. I plan to stay tuned and I guess I will be able to buy shares cheaper still.

For anyone who asks the question how or why would anyone short a .0001 stock you need to read the cellar boxing article that has been posted on this thread two times previously. It is very profitable selling electronic copies and pocketing the money. This isn't shorting like we tend to think of with stocks over $5 that may be overpriced and we can legally sell shares we don't own and then buy to cover later (at hopefully lower prices). Naked shorting is allowed as a temporary aid for market liquidity. MM's can sell electronic copies of a stock they can borrow or believe can be delivered. The shares are supposed to be a copy that can be matched to a certificate. Unfortunately for us fraud enters the picture too often. If the MM's think that a stock is going belly up and has no chance of recovery they will sometimes sell off NS shares until the stock is BK and disappears.

GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi


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I'm fairly new and came here to check out the possibilities for $$$...but....you guys are crazy fools...won't come back...
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Welcome back Debi. Nice to have your input and thoughts back into the mix. Hope your time away was restfull and you're ready for the next several weeks of riding this roller coaster.
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D$$M I HATE THAT when someone calls me a crazy fool. I thought I was just dumb. BEARCLAW might have been the next great insight on this stock. Excuse me while I go lick a tree.
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quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey pharm, you old scab picker, how are ya? I think I need a break from this thread, nothing but bullsh|t and nonsense going back and forth seeing that no one knows nothing. Can everyone say sideways .0003 to .0006 until diamonds are found or O/S are reported. Then is it's up if there is a managable amount of O/S, (which I doubt), or diamonds are found, or down if there are 400B / 500B O/S. Y'all better be praying for diamonds. Until then I have to put up with this nonsense for another month. "It's a scam, I tell ya" , "No, Urban is a genius, I tell ya" , "Roger Glenn worked a miracle, I tell ya" , "Roger Glen died in a stock fraud accident in Kentucky, I tell ya" , "Mt St Helena, I tell ya" , "Diamonds big enough for a flea's ring, I tell ya" , "A trillion naked shorts, I tell ya" , "Why would they short a .0001 stock".
Just let the PPS go up or find some godamn diamonds, so I can quit reading this crap.

Hey will!! Same ol', same ol' here...u?

Mostly I've been working and lurking... until yesterday... I had one heck of a debate on the QBID thread.... and most of it was deleted by the moderator... LOL...


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