I don't think QTv will be pocketing much of any paid subscription since , in my opinion the providers will get the bulk of it. Perhaps we'll pocket 10-15% of it per month but I really see that money going to the providers as sort of another kick back for carrying the Network... But even if we did have 500,000 total subscribers at 4.99 per month which would be about $0.75 per person, per month (15%) x 500,000 = $375,000 per month for the Qtv Network... That isn't to bad at all. I mean that times 12 months is $3.75 million per year!!! And that is if Qtv only takes 15% of the per month subscription...

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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
I hope I am wrong, but I have that grumble in my stomache that says its about to dip again... maybe wed. at the latest... but this is based on nothing but my gut... I hope I am wrong for all you longs.. GLTA

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A grumble in your stomach???? Well take something for it. Like tums. Better yet take some exlax. Your probably full of ****. Like you always are. Get cleaned out maybe that brain of yours will start working again.

Bob

I don't think ads being shown on the network, even if they pay for it, would be a bad thing. I am not gay buy I could only imagine what goes through a gay persons mind when they go to buy a product. In the end they ask themselves, 'Does this company like gay people or deep down do they hate us?'

I think the ads will help to show who supports them and who doesn't...

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
A grumble in your stomach???? Well take something for it. Like tums. Better yet take some exlax. Your probably full of ****. Like you always are. Get cleaned out maybe that brain of yours will start working again.

Bob

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It was that Chuluppa you ate last night that is grumbling...

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could be, I did have one last night... lol

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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
could be, I did have one alst night... lol

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You said it all---Just your opinion. I could care less what you think. so go play in someone elses ball park.

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You said it all---Just your opinion. I could care less what you think. so go play in someone elses ball park.

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
You said it all---Just your opinion. I could care less what you think. so go play in someone elses ball park.

Bob

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Originally posted by bill1352:
if they put ad's in ever 30 mins i don't think it would effect veiwers. things like coca-cola could just put the logo in the bottom corner or at the beginning of a program the could do like public tv...this program is brought to you by.... then mabye in the middle a quick 15 sec. reminder as frank said he is looking for 5 mil a yr in ad's....and yes most of the monthly will go to the providers and if they stick with the 9.95 like frank said it would cost that would probably give Q 2.50 per veiwer per month....500,000 x 2.50 = 1,250,000 per month x 12 = 15 mil + 5 mil in ad's =$20 mil a yr....possibilitys of 500,000 veiwers? if as they say 5% of the population is gay and Q goes into 20 million homes then 5% is 1 million gay veiwers if they get 2% of those homes then that = 20,000 veiwers so we need either a better % of gay homes paying or a heck of a lot more homes Q goes into....my thinking is if it launchs it will be something new and a big % of gay homes it goes into will order it maybe even a bunch sympithetic to the g/l community in turn this will really help the pps for the first few months but we need 20 million or more total homes and direct tv only gives us 8 million

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
Bill, I like your figuring, does anyone know the numbers on Dish, how many households they reach. I know the RB site is leaning towards the Dish as the leader for the Q because of past dealings Frank had. On the other hand would Direct TV be looking to be the first to air Q hoping to increase their market share by maybe picking up a lot of the gay households?

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Yea Sonny & I like your thinking on the matter. Whoever is first to carry this network will have a headstart & that will mean just as much in that arena as it does to QBID. The first always holds dramatic lead over new comers & that would include Viacom's MTV/LOGO!

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
Future, I did go back and read some of your posts, in fact I've been here since Feb, so I read probably most of your posts. Little or no dd, no real contibutions except cheerleading when you owned the stock and now that you don't own it nobody for sure cares about your "opinions" At least most of the times when I have nothing worth while to add to the board you just don't hear from me.

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Well I took that stance as well, at least for a little while.. The only thing that worries me is the fact that so many people buy into all of this Bull, that so many people throw out there... In fact I have contributed a lot more than many and a lot less than many...Do you think that because I did not start posting hundreds of emails and ask people to start emailing... or if I did not start posting posts from other boards post after post after post.... or that I did not personally start posting rumors to try and throw people off... I am sorry but I do not call any of that dd. The fact is that there is so little dd available on this company... all we know is that they put out PR's when the PPS seems to be falling (great timeing, shows his dedication to getting this thing off the ground), misleading hotline updtaes... lies about the soft and hard launch( soft was for the carriers... then the hard launch came.. no wait that is for the carriers.. I mean c'mon really... you have to really start to wonder what the heck is going on over there... we are meeting.. we have not been turned down... I remembre something about a signed contract although I might be wrong... I dont see any proof do you? O/S count... did they ever release that information? The website was built by a second rate company... how many sites do you need to keep working, especially when they are not really working... a bunch of movie rights? wow... looks good to me... an advertising *blitz*... I live in a major city and have not seen one ad. There are just so many things that should have happened by now that have not... hence my opinion...

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Originally posted by bckibler:
You admit you are not a shareholder, so why do you post here?
GO QBID!

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It's funny that people keep harping on this.. Ever watched business news? Whenever an analyst talks about a stock, they have to show a disclaimer that lists all of their interests in the stock (personal investment, family is invested, shares held in the plan they manage, etc...) The basic reason is to show that the person commenting on the stock has *NO* investment whatsoever, as that would create a conflict of interest.

People who aren't invested are more likely to be objective. People who are invested are more likely to be dreamers who will ignore any negative information, label everyone else a basher, and think they'll become millionaires and have a huge party in Vegas with their earnings. I'm not sure how that is any better than hearing from someone with no stock in the company.

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Originally posted by bckibler:
Future. If you could state in a short paragraph the reason as to why you post on this board, what would that reason be? You honestly add nothing but pessimistic gloom and doom. We are all adults and we know the many pro's and the few con's to being invested in this stock. You admit you are not a shareholder, so why do you post here?
GO QBID!

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
You are right Whiz, the first to air would have a big advantage, not to sound crude but I am sure the gay community is like any other group of people with a common background, if I were gay and found the Q on Direct TV I would be calling and e mailing all my gay friends and saying "guess what I just found, you have to check it out" Like you said all we ever hsd to do is launch and now have someone pick it up.

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Exactly! Then Direct TV gets new subscribers on that weight alone. And anyone who likes the product (QBID) stays with Direct!

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Originally posted by Bialystock:
Sorry, off topic, but I know someone with margin experience here will know the answer.

I use Ameritrade and I'm looking at the margin account application stuff. My question is, if I have less than the $25K equity level, will they still approve me for a margin account? I intend to limit myself to cash transactions, and just want to get rid of the 3 day settlement hindrance so I can trade a little bit more quickly (like, immediately I hope). Is it even worth applying for margin with less than the $25K at Ameritrade? They never come out and say it, they just say that is the minimum," but if you have less you should consider limiting to cash-only transactions" so it isn't really clear to me. Also, how long between submitting the Ameritrade form online and getting approved/denied?
Also, if you have margin approval, is the 3 day settlement delay then waived when you daytrade pinkies (non-marginable securities) too? If not, I won't bother applying because that's my main purpose.
Any Ameritrade margin experience out there? Any warnings? (Besides the usual warning "don't use the margin".)
Thanks in advance!

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old movies-- it is not hbo!!!
tv reruns--- why not to mention documentary!!!

just read it few times you will observe how article author is leaning.
From the other side, good that things are cooking around. it is another confirmation that Q is on track!!!

good luck.

So far all have passed?!? What happened to the comment about no one has turned them down yet. Or about the number of deals that were already done? Where is my friend ..the one we have not heard from since she refused to give out her zip code to confirm that Comcast was going to carry Q in her area.

"That doesn't keep Q Television CEO Frank Olsen from expressing unwavering confidence in his idea, even in the face of competition from Viacom's MTV Networks, which is launching gay channel Logo. Olsen contends that the MTV offering will be too bland to appeal to gays and lesbians. By contrast, Q plans to offer sexier gay films, ones (such as My Girlfriend's Boyfriend) that merit an R-rating. "

I thought this channel was geared towards more of a "family" atmosphere vs. the racier offerings by other networks.

"Such bravado in the face of a mighty competitor isn't the only unusual thing about Q Television. Another is its financial structure. Parent Triangle Multi-Media is a penny-stock company with more than 1.2 billion shares outstanding. (That's almost as many as Viacom.) Triangle stock is trading at 6/10 of a cent per share, which puts the value of the company at around $7 million. "

I believe the number of o/s was around the nine billion mark made available by the hotline months ago only to be removed the same day.

"A bigger surprise: Q Television's recent hiring of Michael Marcovsky to handle negotiations with cable operators. Marcovsky is an industry vet who was embroiled in two financial scandals in the past decade. In 1998, the Federal Trade Commission alleged that he deceived investors in two failed startups: My Pet TV and Children's Cable Network. Four years earlier, he was cast out of Nostalgia Network by his backers—including the Unification Church—who accused him of financial mismanagement, such as improperly steering company cash to his attorney.

In announcing Marcovsky's deal with Q Television, the network proclaimed that the executive "joins" to "lead carriage-contract negotiations." Its Web site listed him as chairman, president and CEO. Olsen, however, says Marcovsky just has a 30-day consulting agreement and that the title was a mistake. (It was trimmed from the site shortly after it was pointed out.)

Olsen says he began learning bits of Marcovsky's full background only after hiring him. "I'll ask him about that," Olsen says, adding, "That wasn't in his résumé." "

You've got to be kidding me. That is pretty poor standards these days in terms of hiring on someone to work for you. I have my own business and everyone goes through a NAC (national agency check) through two different companies to ensure I know as much about a person's background as possible. We found out about his legal problems through google of all places!! As for the "I'll ask him about that" comment - please - people started to email QBID as soon as the results were back from their google search. This was done the same night that the bio was posted on the website. We were all looking for “concrete” news and were blessed with this guys Bio.

"So why did Olsen hire Marcovsky to represent him with companies like Comcast, DirecTV and Cox? Marcovsky was recommended by an unnamed TV-industry contact. Olsen tapped Marcovsky after a three-hour meeting. "I learned more from him in three hours than I learned from others in four years," Olsen says. "

We apparently learned more about him in 0.18 (the time it took to get back a query from google) seconds than I guess Frank did from talking to his industry contact and talking with Michael.

"Now, though, he's re-evaluating his choice, reiterating that Marcovsky's consulting agreement could be canceled within 30 days. Says Olsen, "I don't think he can do too much to me in 30 days." "

Oh boy - you do not get too many chances in business affairs. Frank is already operating with a number of strikes to his name and his network for trying to launch before. Image does mean a lot - including the people that you have working for you. Hopefully people will be able to overlook Michael's past and deal with him strictly on his knowledge and not his knack for allegedly "deceiving investors in two startups"

I personally do not like the article at all but you can not ignore the bad and always pass around the good. Once you start doing that you have blinders on and you will follow the stock into the ground. A few posts back or pages back someone was asking another poster as to why they continue to post without having a active position in QBID. This is what I had to say a few days ago regarding that topic:

“For those who feel that you need to own shares to be able to post on a particular thread – go fly a kite. There are many posters who have great TA abilities who do not always have active positions in some of the securities they talk about. I particularly enjoy that. I would like to think they are providing an un-biased look based strictly on the charts etc. There are some companies that people are interested in because of the industry they are in – I have stepped in from time to time because of my own background and knowledge. But if I do not have shares in the company should I not be allowed to post information about the company or where I see them going. I would of course try and put some numbers behind my posts but sometimes that is not always the case. Sometimes all I can give is just my own view based on what I have seen in my time investing and my time in that particular industry. Keep in mind there was a time when a lot of people were not in QBID. Were any of you posting information on the company without holding shares in it? I was. I’ll admit it. I’m glad in the ‘past’ that was allowed and accepted. These days it seems if you do not have anything to add that is nice to the company you get trampled upon. Day traders be damned indeed.” The day trader comment was for Frank since they are the only ones putting pressure on them. Should not have said you were on track and that it’s all good at Q buddy. But then again we did launch right? That too in Q3 and in July. But as the article above stated – “too bad no one is watching”

Good Luck to everyone who still has shares but if the price per share is around an area where you can take your original position out then think about it. Do not fall into the trap of “if I have this many shares and it hits a dollar I can have this much money” For those of you who still have this from its incredible run months ago then try and either avg down or decide on how much you can afford to loose and still be comfortable. I know it is hard but do what is only comfortable to yourself. Do not listen to me or rely upon anyone else here to decide for you.

Take the good with the bad and do read posts that are negative to the stock or what the prevailing wind is saying. It builds character. Do not respond to them if you feel they are just full of it and are responding just for the sake of it. Respond back with some actual numbers or PR’s or TA. Ask yourself why they are not in it. Why are they going against the grain? Could they be upset that they missed such an impressive run? Could be. Could it be because they are using Williams %R, RSI, Bollinger bands , Fibonacci numbers, etc? Could be. (BTW – when was the last time some real TA was done and posted here? There used to be a few people that did that but they no longer post. Neither here nor other boards) View each and every post here as a person sitting behind a computer somewhere with an agenda. Some are hidden and some are quite obvious to those who have taken their blinders off.

I have an agenda – I would like to see the price go up. Am I going to pump the stock so that more people buy into it? No. Am I going to bash the stock to bring the price down so I can buy more into it? No. Frankly whether anyone buys or sells does not affect me. My profit and original investment is out – I will let the remaining shares tank or “go to the moon”. And no I do not only have 4 shares or whatever. But even if I did only have 4 shares – would that make my opinion smaller or hold less weight than a person who owns 100 million shares? What does affect me however is the round the clock pump and bash. If there is not a healthy mix of both with actual substance behind the posts then something is definitely not right.

Anyway – rant mode off – either way folks – try and act like adults..most of us I believe are. To those of you who are not though – give it a try. You might even enjoy being one.

But then again, who knows with this stock. As we get mentioned in more and more higher-profile publications, the old adage "there is no such thing as bad publicity" could be the spark that lights this thing on the national media. A National controversy could be more effective than the "media blitz" we are supposed to be experiencing, and cheaper too.

I'm still holding next week, come what may.

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In the mean time... my cousin has the dishnetwork... I will stop by his place at some point before monday if I can... I will also chek out the channel... I will also be calling time warner along with the dishnetwork, if anything comes of it... I will post... GLTA

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I normally just lurk, but if they are supposedly on dish I have some connections and can find it. Is there a rumor that they are on dish network or no? I really am looking forward to them getting a channel (praying more like it) on a national level. If the rumor is out there I can look into it.

U4 my qbid will be the same now even if it drops to .001 again, will yours still be the same?