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Does anyone know how, if Urban is in control of both companies as theorized, this will affect shareholders of cmkx and our pps? How can this bring our pps up? How can this hinder our pps from going up? Thanks!
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quote:
Originally posted by HarryHar:
Does anyone know how, if Urban is in control of both companies as theorized, this will affect shareholders of cmkx and our pps? How can this bring our pps up? How can this hinder our pps from going up? Thanks!

Harry
The only advantage that I could see with a UCAD merger, is that we would automatically be on the OTC BB exchange where UCAD trades. But I don't really think that this is what's up, totally. It may be an integral part of the overall plan, but it would seem since they are trading over $3.00 and us usually at .0003 it would require something like a 10,000 to 1 reverse split. That would be a killer for CMKX right now. In my opinion, Urban has something much bigger in mind, and UCAD is only a minor player in his gameplan. Although I do believe he either controls or has some major influence on UCAD though BBX.



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I don't know. All I saw was that UCAD got a sweetheart lease deal awhile ago from CMKX. CMKX leased them some acreage for $50,000 to split 3 ways. UCAD has to invest $200,000 in a year exploring to make the deal good, or forfiet their $50,000. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if UCAD has Urban's fingerprints all over it. UCAD is an OB with a price of over $3 a share. Be a good vehichle to move up through some type of merger ??? I have thought that for a good while. I recall Paul posting something regarding the name of Phillip Casavant, and I wanted to know the details of that name to see if there was a UCAD/CMKX connection. Just supposition, but I think UCAD might be the vehichle to move forward, if/when it happens. Tease, tease, is all we're getting from forthright, down to earth, Urban and company. Why they just can't do "it" or get off the pot, is beyond me.
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Does anyone know how, if Urban is in control of both companies as theorized, this will affect shareholders of cmkx and our pps? How can this bring our pps up? How can this hinder our pps from going up? Thanks!


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All UCAD has to do is pay enough for mineral rights to elevate us off the pinks.

If we have 5 billion OS then they would need to pay enough to get us to a .60 level for the Amex, I heard somewhere that was one criteria based on certain criteria.

An actual merger wouldn't take place.

The question is, could UCAD raise that kind of money? You may be right, a bigger player may be involved.


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After yesterday's news that Melvin had changed the announcement to "Saskatchewan Diamonds", I couldn't help but notice this News Headline: "Saskatchewan Diamonds Now Top Of De Beers' Priority List" LOL Don't start another rumor it only related to their search in Saskatchewan. Or does it??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Noah, I was referring to the one posted by Replay2X last night (http://www.asiaelements.com/cmkx/update071604.mp3). Supposedly it was 30 minutes long???


I saved the MP3, it's about 5MB. Do you want me to e-mail it to ya?


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Post from another board. One guy's opinion, take it for what it's worth.


Holyguy7 <psmith@m...> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/5d3bw
>
> Something huge is up. Let's review what happened today,
>
> 1. A live wireless broadcast from the race was shut down
> 2. A rumored party was quashed (phone lines cut and no calls made
as
> prearranged)
> 3. The Pal Talk site was censored and made the scapegoat.
> 4. A PR was canceled at the last minute.
> 5. Uncle Melvin has had a muzzle put on him for days.
> 6. Rumors of VIP's at the races snuck out before the blackout.
> 7. The unofficial CMKX board was shut down early this afternoon
before
> all the hub bub occurred.
> 8. The hood of the car was never revealed.
> 9. UCAD issued a very strange PR very close to midnight ET on a
Friday
> night (how weird is that).
>
> Look, I'm tired as heck but even I can see that it's not about an
> innocent rumor of a .54 tender offer. All I know for sure is that
today
> will prove to be one of the best days of my life.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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ZEN has some harsh words for the big mouths.


YOU MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THIS POST.


But I really don't care. I've been straight up in my opinions, good and bad, from day one. First things first, I have not sold a share nor do I plan on selling a share until all the information that we seek is available. Now, on to the things that I see that I do NOT like happening.

I'm assigning blame 3 ways: to Roger, to Urban and to shareholders (certain ones specifically).

Roger: Pure and simple. Urban should never have been permitted to attend the Denver races. The ONLY exception I'd make to that is if a major press release revealling all material information was put out immediately after the close on Friday's trading. You have to know your client, and in our case, Urban is a profoundly excessive windbag. Roger should have known this. This was a major lapse in judgment on Roger's part IMO. The only way I'd let Roger off the hook is if Urban defiantly said "No. I am attending, so work around that." Urban is the client, and does have that right. I don't know if Urban forced Roger's hand on this one, but I am VERY disappointed that Urban was allowed to attend knowing his propensity for promotion.

Urban: What can I say that hasn't been said. This guy is an idiot for attending this race. When you have a potentially huge blockbuster deal (assuming that is true), you take great pains to AVOID any close contact with shareholders, or at the very least, he could have planned on a "surprise" appearance once any news had been released. I don't know how Urban accomplished what he accomplished to acquire all this valuable land, but it doesn't change the fact that he makes very POOR management decisions and REFUSES to behave like a real CEO, instead planning parties and playing with race cars while risking all of our investment. I know he is unconventional and there's a certain charm to that. I actually like the funny car sponsorship. It's a new one to me to see a company put the word out this way. But there's a time for unconventional and a time to SERIOUSLY RESPECT a legal and critical situation. IMO, Urban's attendance in Denver and the surrounding events have placed our investment in jeopardy. I do doubt anything will come of it. I'm sure Roger (after pulling the rest of his hair out) will be performing cleanup duties on this mess for awhile and will have everything straight and in order. But still, why in the world did Urban have to do this. The game is not over until the buzzer sounds. And there is a lot of time left in this game. And Urban just fumbled the ball AGAIN.

The shareholders: To all the people that posted or said things like "Urban said we have sold some claims" or "This is what I know ...." or "Here is what is happening ...", YOU WILL ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME IF THE SEC ISSUES A SUBPOENA TO YOU AND HAS YOUR TRADING ACCOUNT SUSPENDED!!!! You idiots. You complete and total idiots!!!! It's one thing to speculate. Many have theories but always qualify them as such. I have always pointed out with great emphasis that my thoughts are merely speculation or theories or guesses. But for those shareholders that posted or said that certain things WERE a certain way or WERE true, you deserve to be investigated. I mean that. You are simply too stupid to be involved in investing if you can't understand what's wrong with posting information as if it's fact. Having you jailed and/or fined would probably not only help us but help YOU from being so stupid in the future. People like Raggingbulll and Bashtard_Eliminator aren't helping matters by pumping the living bejeezus out of things with winks, nudges, nods and high-fives. Although they may not be revealling anything concrete, they are NOT helping matter buy fueling the fire and making rabid shareholders even more hostile and anxious. Please someone post this over on the Raging Bull board for me 100x so that the COMPLETE AND TOTAL MORONS OVER THERE GET MY MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR!!! I don't mean this for everyone. Obviously, for those that genuinely pursue public information and an exchange of ideas and theories, you should continue to do such. It does NOT take a genius though to figure out which ones are SERIOUSLY impeding the progress of our company.

I have said before that it is my personal belief the shorts have kept this thing at .0003 range because they believe Urban and the shareholders are idiots enough to give them one last chance to get this operation shut down. Boy oh boy, how badly everyone wants to prove me RIGHT. Things were moving so well before. Urban had been quiet for a month. Press releases were tight. To the point. No fluff. People were waiting. The longer we went like that, the more confident I grew that we actually had something really big. I'd say my confidence level was reaching maybe 75-80% in terms of this truly being a "play of a lifetime". After this weekend, I am back to a 50-50 proposition. There are just too many idiots involved in this mix for me to be that confident again. Too many possible missteps or miscues. I continue to hold because the risk/reward ratio still IMO is huge. But it seems that this game may still come down to the wire on whether we win or not.

Things everyone can do to help the situation:

1. Shut paltalk down until after material news has been released.
2. If you talk about anything specific, qualify it with disclaimers up the yin yang, e.g., "IMO", "I believe", "This is merely speculation but ...."
3. If you even think about typing "Urban said to me ..." please slit your wrists.
4. Stay quiet until there actually IS a reason to celebrate. It's ok to have fun and be funny but wild, rampant speculation, half of which is twisted into untruths is just plain damaging.
5. Wait. Wait. Wait.
6. If you see or hear someone else violating any of the above, slap them in the face until they stop.

Now, I am confident I will receive a massive amount of negative responses, including accusations that I'm a turncoat, a "Joel" or worse. Whatever. The above needed to be said IMO. Most of the people are behaving but unfortunately there is quite a large contingency of children that seem to be disrupting it all. Perhaps a PR will come out before Monday that will make all of the above moot. I sure hope so. If not, brace yourselves for perhaps the roughest week yet of owning this stock. And I hope everyone can handle it LIKE MATURE, RESPONSIBLE ADULTS.

I hate typing something like the above. I hate fueling the shorts/bashers any further. But you know, the one thing I hate even more is when people on MY side do things to jeopardize my investment.

Peace. Goodbye. Will I post again? Not sure. As long-winded as I am, I'm having a hard time finding the right words to express how ROYALLY PISSED OFF I AM RIGHT NOW. This is an opportunity of a lifetime IMO. And many (including our lead characters) are treating this like it's nothing more than an Egg McMuffin. Wake up people. This is a potential future like you've always dreamed of. STOP HANDLING IT CARELESSLY.

Please pass this on to everyone you think it applies to. Thank you. Good bye.

P.S. I do seriously hope all news is out by Monday as technically I believe that anything of concern only appeared after trading on Friday and technically could not have been acted on before trading resumed on Monday if everything is released before then.


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From ********s35's Moderator:

"Explanation of board being shut down...
« Thread started on: Today at 11:32am »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Many of you are asking for an explanation as to why the board was shut down. As many of you know, rumors were spreading on Paltalk yesterday. Fatboy, BigDog, and myself told everyone to keep quiet, and no one listened. Information was leaked out that shouldn't have, and we started to destroy the plans that Urban Casavant had for us, as shareholders. I know some of you may not believe this, but it is true. Many of you carried those childish rumors over to this board. We cleaned the board twice, and you still didn't learn. We deleted the posts that contained these rumors, and you still kept on posting them.

Look folks, we are doing this for you. We did not want to shut the board down. This is for the protection of YOUR investment. This is not a selfish thing, it's not a power trip, it's to protect you. Sure there are many other boards out there that people can post on, but we will not take part in that.

This board will be back up when the moderators feel it is safe. I wish everyone here would just let things unfold as Urban wanted them to. Let facts decide the outcome of our investment, not rumors. I wish all of you a good day, and hope that all of our dreams come true soon. Thanks for understanding.

GO CMKX!"

My question is:

1. Who moderates this board and
2. Why do they shut it down on rumors?

"Information was leaked out that shouldn't have, and we started to destroy the plans that Urban Casavant had for us, as shareholders."

So does this mean the rumors were true? How else could a positive rumor hurt a stock? There has been plenty of speculation and hype on that board, but why shut it down now on this particular topic (I am suuming the talk about the .54 dividend). Just trying to make sense of this. I personally think someone is making them take the board down, someone like RG or UC or Marvin and that there must have been some truth to all the speculation otherwise I don't see why they would care.


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I think I have found the connection. It seems we mave deep deep pockets on board. After doing a search of both CMKX and UCAD they have one insider in Common.

CCO

Cameco is a uranium/gold mining company located in Saskatoon Saskatchewan. A company with 1.1 billion in Cash flow and interests all over Canada/US/and the world.

I think Cameco owns or has owned parts of both.


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A couple things have me confused recently. I'm curious as to what others think.

Why is UC spending all this time and effort trying to generate publicity for CMKX at this point? Why not remain silent for a while and drop the pps to back to around .0002 - .0001, weed out all of the weak hands and in the process by back as much as he can before gaining so much attention.

What is the point of having many more investors jumping in at .0003? Why not wait until .01+ and then promote the company? Isn't there much more to gain then? And if there was some kind of dividend, or buy out plan in the works. Wouldn't it be more in his interest to own as much as he could, and have less people part of it?

In any case i'm still holding, and i still Believe. Go CMKX.
Thanks to All, and Good Luck!!!


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Money Penny, that's my question too. With all the rumors that run amok on that board, why panic over this and shut down the whole board, unless it had some truth to it? I wonder if, like Zen said above, that if an insider leaks info, the SEC could get involved and start subpoenaing witnesses. I wonder if the boards administrator could be subject to subpoena or prosecution for assisting in the transmission of illegal information. Either way, this was a strange move on their part. Not only what we've discussed, but if they shut the board down for crazy posts, then the crazies will be sure to post more when it reopens.
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Will, found a few I'd like your thoughts on,but I didn't wright down your email address.
Could you edit it back in for a minute?

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited July 17, 2004).]


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UCAD is a joint venture co. Canada's government gives grants to these types of companys if they go into a joint venture. No one owns each other. They are partners with the same goal.
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"that if an insider leaks info, the SEC could get involved and start subpoenaing witnesses. I wonder if the boards administrator could be subject to subpoena or prosecution for assisting in the transmission of illegal information. Either way, this was a strange move on their part. Not only what we've discussed, but if they shut the board down for crazy posts, then the crazies will be sure to post more when it reopens. "

What if it was just a lucky guess that someone posted do you think the SEC would really get down and funky with an investagation? I hardly think so. They don't have the funds to do that (supposedly).


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Just an idea for the crew:

What if all this chatter of a div. or buy is on the free shares we all recieved on the minerials co. that is sitting in our accounts with no value. Think about it, there are very few of us, compared to the total amount of cmkx share holders. It makes more sense to sell the minerial company side where you have less o/s then the 400,500, or what ever the amount is. If there is only 200 bil shares the amount then is much less.
Just an idea, there is nothing to support such a question just another theory, that we all have different ideas.

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OK, new subscriber, old CMKX owner. I've got about $1500 invested in this thing and have to thank everyone on this and other boards for the wild ride this has been. If I don't make a dime off of this stock, I've had a Million $$$ good time with it. The ups and downs, the good and bad posts, you guys have really intrigued me. I hope this does pan out. I have a daughter getting married soon....I need some ca$h. How long do I have to wait for .50? If interested, anyone can buy my 5,000,000 shares for .50. I'm not greedy.

Keep up the good posts.

Just my opinion.....


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Sorry child, I was out for a bit, but here ya go:
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Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will, found a few I'd like your thoughts on,but I didn't wright down your email address.
Could you edit it back in for a minute?

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited July 17, 2004).]


[This message has been edited by will (edited July 17, 2004).]


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Message from Sterling

He wanted me to let everyone know that the reason we did not receive the PR last night was because UC did not get it from the Attorney in time. He said that UC wanted to go over it and it was late so they are going to try and it get to us today.

Before opening bell on Monday for sure......

He also said that PAL Talk nor the Boards were the cause for the delay....

God Bless

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Been monitoring the PalTalk. The new car paint job does not give any hints or clues. Rosco161 says he just talked to Sterling at the track, Sterling says nothing said on any board last night had anything to do with the absence of a PR. UC says it just didn't get to him in time to be posted. Sterling also says PR will be out some time today or tonight. That's aboout it from the track for now.

PS, this was my first time at PalTalk, it is a real zoo in there. If you haven't been there, you can't imagine. Posts are coming from seious and crazies at the rate of about one per second. Can't even read the longer ones before they've been moved off the board.


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...and Sterling knows this because....
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Left Lane: Jeff Arend Runs 5.112/280.43, Now #1
Right Lane: Terry Haddock Runs 10.526/81.58, Now #4

Arend with a new car an '02 Firebird and it is painted up in his associate sponsor's colors Go Fast. Arend with a good clean pass, straight down the groove. Haddock had problems early and clicked it off.
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MORRISON, Colo. - SUMMIT FastNews - Order after one round of qualifying in Funny Car at the NHRA POWERade Drag Racing Series, 25th annual Mopar Mile-High NHRA Nationals:
Psn Driver Vehicle ET Speed
1. Whit Bazemore Matco Tools Stratus 4.897@ 311.92
2. Tony Pedregon Quaker State Monte Carlo 4.932 306.81
3. Gary Densham AAA of So. Cal. Mustang 4.948 308.07
4. John Force Castrol GTX Mustang 4.970 310.84
5. Tommy Johnson Jr. Skoal Racing Monte Carlo 5.043 276.07
6. Tony Bartone K&N Filters/Lucas Oil Camaro 5.055 301.87
7. Tim Wilkerson Levi, Ray & Shoup Monte Carlo 5.062 300.93
8. Phil Burkart Checker Shuck's Kragen Firebir 5.090 297.55
9. Jeff Arend CMKX-treme Firebird 5.112 280.43
10. Cruz Pedregon Advance Auto Parts Monte Carlo 5.118 297.48
11. Gary Scelzi Hemi Oakley Stratus 5.123 280.72
12. Del Worsham Checker Schuck's Kragen Monte 5.231 274.55
13. Robert Schwab Wheeler Machinery/CAT Firebird 5.359 270.86
14. Keith Jackson J4 Racing Firebird 5.482 217.04
15. Ron Capps Skoal Racing Monte Carlo 5.751 258.96
16. Bob Gilbertson Trick Tank/Caribbean Soul Cama 6.187 147.23
--------- Not Qualified ---------
17. Jerry Toliver Schick Quattro Celica 6.204 202.45
18. Eric Medlen Castrol Syntec Mustang 6.407 157.08
19. Terry Haddock Barrett Enterprises Camaro 10.526 81.58
@ = Track ET Record


NHRA
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The new car should be on tonight ESPN2 8-10 pm Est.
Go Jeff Arend,the better he does,the longer the ad.

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If I've been hearing everything right, Sterling flew out this morning to Denver and the track to try and get firsthand info for everybody in his classroom. Hasn't been at the track long. People over there are amazing, they've been tracking his movements all day like an incoming enemy missle, as he moved to Denver. LOL. But I tend to believe him on this since his classroom and reputation are on the line, and the whole CMKX world is watching him right now.
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Replay2X, can you e-mail the MP3 to kaigoss@mail.com? Thanks a bundle.
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OK Will, I got it.
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By: my69z
17 Jul 2004, 07:37 PM EDT
Msg. 43984 of 43996
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this pr from Dec coming true???.....

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Negotiation With Two Public Companies for Buyout of Mining Claims
Monday December 29, 9:01 am ET


LAS VEGAS, Dec. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Casavant Mining Kimberlite International announced today that the company is evaluating two offers from public companies for a partial buyout of selected mining claims.
Urban Casavant President of CMKM, stated, "We are negotiating with two public companies who would like to buy sizable portions of our mining claims. Obviously they see substantial value in our claims. We will announce our decision of a buyout and the terms by the end of January 2004. Our goal is to make the best decision which will benefit our shareholders."

This buyout in no way affects our plans to drill on claims in the Green Lake area or Forte a la Corne. Permits for both targets have been filed and the company is waiting for approval to drill.

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Arend just made a sweet little run in the funny car. Wasted his competitor!
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Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:7/17/2004 9:08:12 PM
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ADDENDUM TO MY EARLIER POST.

Well, I certainly knew it would be controversial but as I said from the start, I'm not here for a popularity contest.

A few points of clarification after reading some responses:

1. I did not say Urban said anything inappropriate. In fact, in all likelihood, I believe he did NOT say anything wrong at all. His MP3 when he called in specifically referenced Roger's gag order and he obviously knew not to say anything. My issue is not with Urban having said anything, it is much more with some claiming he did (when he likely did not) and with details some seemed to directly or indirectly attribute to Urban. But that's why I believe having Urban there at all was simply wrong. Too much room for "interpretation" and we do know Urban is an overly social person (my concession to those who felt "windbag" was too harsh), especially when a supposed PR was to come out and now we are left twisting in the wind wondering if we'll get one before Monday.

2. I do agree that most everything posted or spoken through Paltalk was hearsay. And weak hearsay even at that. And none of it likely actually said by Urban. But with nearly 2 full days left of racing when I posted earlier, it sure felt appropriate to BE CERTAIN that if there were anything leaking that it stayed off the boards completely. I will not apologize EVER for making that point.


I notice already not a lot of information coming in from Denver today. Is this a BAD thing that we simply wait for the official company PR to come out as it should be????? Let's enjoy the funny car, let Urban and Roger reveal information to us when appropriate and let's behave in a way consistent with a REAL investment that may actually change our lives. Can this really be an area where one could be TOO overcautious with so much at stake? To those that agree with me, thank you for your support. To those that don't, hopefully my true message at heart will sink in. CMKX is still a wonderful investment. Let's just be very, very, very, very careful. Yesterday appears to be no harm, no foul, but was still of great concern to me. Glad to see today (and hopefully tomorrow GO JEFF!!!) is calm, cool and much more responsible.


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.


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quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Arend just made a sweet little run in the funny car. Wasted his competitor!

Sitting in 9th after first run!! Not to shabby out of 16


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we have any pics of the new body? I didnt get a great look at it while it raced. too fast
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Originally posted by tahoechris:
we have any pics of the new body? I didnt get a great look at it while it raced. too fast

http://www.asiaelements.com/cmkx/cmkxcar3.jpg

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Looked like a pretty large crowd there in Denver today.
There was a track record broke today so tomarrows crowd probably will even be a larger one.
Hope Jeff gets some good runs in.
Elimination rounds are televised tomarrow night 9-11:30 pm ET on ESPN2.

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http://www.ccriderracing.cc/Home_2.html
they also sponsor a bike to.

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LOL...Nice one Jeff.
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Originally posted by Az...Cats:
LOL...Nice one Jeff.

thats what you call a diamond cutter. lol


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