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pokeypanda
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I bought some shares at $3.12 and its been floating around there for a few weeks. Is this a good stock for a newbie that wants to start small? Any advice would be appreciated.
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THREE DOLLARS!!! HOLY SMOKES!!! just joking... most people here seem to be doing micro-micro-caps. I was going to get in on LU but didnt really see anything exciting about it for my tastes.

Currently I'm working on FRCP and just got in on AMHI after doing some research on them after hearing someone on this forum post it.

But anyways dont mind my mindless self promotion. First questions any stock broker will ask you are:

1. How much money you got or rather how much money are you willing to give them

2. How many trades do you make a month?

3. How long do you typically hold your positions?

Obviously if you are saving up for your retirement you'd want different selections and if you don't trade too often you want something rather stable like a blue chip so you dont have to watch it every two seconds and how much money you got is important as well, You cant make any money with 5 shares of MSFT.


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I have been in and out of LU a few times, never have been disapponted, and will be buying again. Lucent is back on the way up, IMO, if they get their retirement benefits inline. They were recently upgraded and have signed several multi-million $ contracts and are expanding into China as well. If you are a newbie and not used to the fluctuations of pennystocks, LU could be a good choice given that it is traded on the more stable NYSE. Don't forget to use a sell stop for no more than 10% below what you are paying per share. Good luck, and do your due diligence.

Sarah


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Pretty good safe pick either long or short. Short hold for a 10 to 15% gain and get out. Should see that before Christmas. If you have the money to hold you will probably see a two ro three bagger in next 2 years. A friend and I reseached it back last spring and nothing much has changed except S/P went about tripled. He bought, I didnt but he has been trading on the spikes and will be back in it soon probably.
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Sarah,

If you have a couple grand to speculate with check out ERHC. It is priced right and with news you should do well, and expecting news soon (Which in Africa means sometime in next month).

It is oil company with ton of rights in west africa and I think it is solid play both long and short. Really believe it will be a multiple ten bagger if hold 4 or 5 years but should be 2 or 4 bagger before Christmas.

It does not have earnings now and nearly 100% of its value are in its rights. Check it out.

Terry


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Hey Terry,
I got into ERHC several months ago, and recently picked up some more. Am waiting with you
Do you usually trade pennies or big board stocks?
I'm getting kind of wary of the pennies, having seen 3 r/s lately with no warning.

Sarah

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Sarah,
Typically pennies occasionaly others. I had two devistating rs on subpennies this year myself. One was a flier so got out early and the other seemed to have some substance to it and reverse was a surprise. To compound matters on the second I continued to buy on way down and now am just looking at a $5000 dollar tax loss. If you are willing to do your homework though and dont get caught up to much in subpennies (especially pinks)you can do well in penny land. I know I have overall.

I am more and more convinced if you are going to hold long term you must do good fundimental research. I am a huge Peter Lynch fan and his principles apply just fine to pennies especially if you buy over the 40, 50 cent stuff. Most people - including myself - get in trouble with pennies that they bought without doing proper DD (or in many cases any), or by getting in to much of a hurry. In 'real' stocks many people buy figuring their profits will take at least 2 or 3 years to come and maybe ten or fifteen. For many of us if a stock hasnt gone up 50% in 3 months than we chase another penny no matter how good the fundimentals are, and usually miss out on the increase.

There is nowhere easier to get the ten bagger than buying pennies and nearly only way you can hit a fifty or hundred bagger. So as Lynch says one 10 or 20 bagger and make your account look pretty even if you dont hit on some of the others. Special circumstance stocks like HLSH last year and ERHC this year can be especially lucrative.

If you havent done it read first,'One Up on Wallstreet' and later, 'Beating the Street', both by Peter Lynch. they will help whatever type of investing you do, and should encourage you too. Remember if you are right on even 50% or 60% of your picks you can do very well. Where else can you be wrong half the time and become moderatly wealthy over time?

Terry


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Actually fundamental research is the part I do well on stocks...it's the charts that throw me....I haven't gotten reading them down well enough to know when it's time for them to move.
I actually prefer very undervalued stocks that have profit and have been around for awhile. Like IPI I bought at .37, company that's been around for 25 or more years and are getting themselves back on track. It still may be an easy double by yrs end.

Sarah


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IPI looks interesting. Have you gotten any dividends? One source looks like they pay healthy dividend another that they dont pay any. I am putting it on my watchlist. Thanks Sarah for the lead.
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I haven't gotten any divs yet, just bought in most in the last month or 6 weeks.
Another one that interests me is LTRX, just reported earnings that are flat but losses are down. They have a lawsuit against them by digi, but from what I hear LTRX product is superior and no chance anything will come of it. In fact LTRX counterfiled against digi...
Also checking out iip...it's been moving up lately. Don't have any of that one yet.
Are you familiar with BSIO? I have 25k of it, am wondering if I should pick up more....really cool security cards with fingerprints embedded. It has been at .50 before and they have applied for I think 18 patents, waiting on the news...
Let me know what you think about these.

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LTRX concerns me as they have continually lost money every quarter the last 4 years. Losses have gone down significantly this year after restructering but with limited capital and no indication when they will be in the black I dont know about this one. They still lost almost 16 million or .28 per share in 2004. They also have an accumulated deficet of 156 million dollars, up from 140 million end of 2003.

Also there is very limited volume, which may actually be good because it would take four days on average to cover shorts, which could move price up. Amount of shorting is going up so some are betting the price will go down (as of 8-9-04). In short this looks like a stinker to me. I'll try to check other company tomorrow.


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Sarah
As far as dividends they were supposed to start being sent Sept 9th for those holding shares on August 24th. You should get yours any day now, .04 per share but not sure if that is US or Canadian. Sounds like that might be good stock. They continued to pay out dividend on stock even when profits wouldnt cover dividend. Can only do that for so long without hurting company. Hopefully profits will increase so it will cover the dividends in future.

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Haven't seen the divs yet. The reason I have LTRX is because there was insider buying and partnering with Honeywell about 4-5 months ago. Oh well another one may bite the dust then....lol
Oh yeah, I went ahead and joined Peter Leeds...some of his picks look like mine though...but I'm sure over time his will do better.

Sarah


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Sarah
Even as member and using some of his picks you still need to do own DD. Also a lot of the time if he makes a pick it spikes up and hard to get in at decent price, majority of time it comes back down in a week or two and if you like it can get it for around price when he picked. If you expect Leeds picks to do great overnight usually doesnt happen. A lot of his take 6 to 18 months, and often he will pick one and pick it again six months later if story the same or better. Something we should learn from.

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BSIO
currently trading at .06. This is a company that diluted with 20 million shares in 2004 and warn that there will be more to come, as they have need for raising money. This is a startup company with little income and fairly large expenses, that has some seemingly good products and technoligy in a highly competative industry where many of there competiters are better funded and have better connections. That said this may be a good takeover prospect or if get financing could become viable company.

My personally feel on BSIO is fairly posative short term as seriously oversold and fairly volitile in price moves. Long term is much more chancy as too many factors to tell if it will ever amount to much. There biggest need is to start producing revenues. If sales develop may be one to watch, but right now I would trade this short term and selling on spikes, buying on dips with fairly small investment percentage. Just MHO. Terry


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Thanks Terry
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SARAH,
Got news from a pretty reliable source that PBHI is having important news release tomorrow and he feels it will move significantly, apparently he knows at least generally what is in release. Right now a little over a dollar. Be careful if you buy as volume is low on this stock and VERY difficult to get info on company. Normally I take 'hot tips' with a grain of salt, but feel this is worth a flier of $500 or $1000 just because of this guys past track record. The stock moved last month up to $2.50 and then came down so dont plan holding long term unless news spectacular. This is definately a swing trade candidate and definately a SPECULATION move so be careful. ...Just told now (1:20 pacific) to expect to take profits around $1.50. Hope it works out.

Good luck, Terry

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Hi-
I am a new member in your message room. I have been involved with the stock market for a little over 9 years. My most recent purchase is a COAL company name PineValley Mining. (PVMCF:OTC,PVM:TSE) The way energy prices have been fluctuating this seemed to be an inexpensive with little to no downside investment. PVM is the high margin, low cost producer of PCI coal who has the ability to sell a large percentage of their production at world prices because it has not been sold forward as most of the big boys have. I believe most of their coal is spoken for until 2005. It would seem to me that this should give pvm a real “leg-up”.
Hard Rock Analyst (HRA) has recently published a study on the company. I have found that this report presents the rudiments of pvm and in general the pci market. Also, OTCBB.Com or pinevalleycoal.com has a list of their news releases. Be forewarned, I have phoned the company and the PR person in my opinion could do a better job . After talking to him I was glad that he is not the person running the mine. The CEO Graham really does know his stuff. I have confirmed his credentials and I believe he is on path to making this mine sing.
Aside of the above, the stock is fairly thin which allows for a dramatic increase(decrease) in price with low volume. Me buying several thousand shares may jerk the price up nicely. Imagine if 100 investors did it. I am not in any way advising you or anyone to buy the stock. Although, after reviewing the reports you may come to the same conclusion as I have.
P.S. If you believe that what you just read is nonsense then I am sorry to have wasted your time.
“TALLOYSER”

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Hey terry,
Did you get into PBHI yet?
I didn't see your post til this morning, is it still a go?
I will look it over and check back here, ok?
I got lucky the other day and was researching possible Tasr competition, including UGHO...so when I saw the news in Marvs post I bought in the next morning at .80...it closed at 1.80 same day. What a THRILLING ride that was
I'm researching to find a better broker. Scottrade sucks...are there any brokers that let you put a sell stop on OTCBB stock?

I will post this question on investing thread.

Sarah


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Hi Sarah,

No I never got in and after no announcement friday I am scared off. This guy has been right on some before (not 100%)but obviously the info he had this time was not as good as he thought. His source said it was definate pr friday and let him read the pr according to what he messaged. This was not over boards but personnal and I do put some trust in him so timing may just be off. IMHO it is to risky at this point.

Glad you did well the other day but dont let a quick score like that change your style, or basic DD. They dont come very often.

Scottrade is great company but not for pennies under $1. I have Tradingdirect which is OK but has limitations I believe caused by the small size of the broker. Ameritrade is where eventually I will go. Not quite as cheap as a couple others but they execute orders well (which is my main concern) and are one of better penny brokers and can do canadian exchanges as well I believe, which TD can not.

Basically for most traders cheap trades are a luxery not a neccesity. I read of people changing from broker they like to save $5 a trade and only do 20-25 trades a year and laugh. Of course I usually do many more than that but still not worth going with risky broker to save even a grand a year. A .01 difference on a slow trade can cost you hundreds and has me from time to time.

Well have a good and profitable week. ERHC I believe is very close and just wish I had some more money to buy with at these prices.

Terry


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Hi Sarah
Well they appointed a new CEO so news did come. Market acted like no big deal so didnt react how my friend thought it would so he was 50% right. Hope you didnt buy any.

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Hi Sarah,

I know you are investor in ERHC. Friend of mine knows someone connected with Noble. When asked about pr and ERHC's deal with Noble, this person had not heard of ERHC but stated the following after reading pr by Noble and ERHC pr stating joint development of block 4.
...Mr. ________ is not familiar with ERHC, but he said the Noble Energy has been very, very successful in these ventures - he thinks it (their investment in ERHC) would do very well.

Hang in there on this one. I and those that received this simple statement are more encouraged by this than any recent pr or anything written on the boards. They have known this person for many years and he is a friend of theirs. He did not give any insider info just his opinion but I dont want to take a chance on getting anyone in trouble so will not share more.

Sarah I know for many of us the wait has been very long for ERHC and normally I wouldnt share this type of thing on the board, only with Machivilli and a couple of others I have email contact with, but wanted to encourage you about it.
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