quote:Originally posted by Peaser: Might need to change the title of this thread in the next day or two...
Just so it's not a blatant lie 'n all.
Has it fallen to 7900 again?. Blatant lie? We all new there would be a dip after the massive run. Talk to me when it gets 7900 again.
Yes...
I have said many times that I changed my view to negative after Paulson said he would not use the TARP to buy the banks bad assets. As I see it, I was right both times, as usual.
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I CAN KEEP BEING RIGHT iF I KEEP CHANGING MY MIND TOO. THE FUNDAMENTALS OF OUR ECONOMY ARE STRONG MY FRIENDS!
It's the media and the whole insolvent banking system that's taking us down. do you think those bonds have any value left? Do we REALLY want to know?
how much should that hammer cost? get that bubble under control and then we'll see bottom imo.
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futures look good this AM, i don't trust 'em.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: futures look good this AM, i don't trust 'em.
I bought S FNM AIG C
right at the close yesterday as I thought we would see at least a short term bounce after the breach.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: nobody is right all the time.
no doubt. And I'm pretty sure we didn't have a whole lotta faith that he was right when he called bottom. And in my charts I'm not calling bottom either, only decent support levels that we can use to try and set triggers for if they hit. imo there isn't much sanity in todays market. Sad part is, it seems more and more people are taking their money out of their 401k and trying the market for themselves without learning what they are doing. i know i lost my first batch from my ignorance. I'm still making picks and sticking my neck out there though. trying to win more than i lose - that's the name of the game.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: nobody is right all the time.
no doubt. And I'm pretty sure we didn't have a whole lotta faith that he was right when he called bottom. And in my charts I'm not calling bottom either, only decent support levels that we can use to try and set triggers for if they hit. imo there isn't much sanity in todays market. Sad part is, it seems more and more people are taking their money out of their 401k and trying the market for themselves without learning what they are doing. i know i lost my first batch from my ignorance. I'm still making picks and sticking my neck out there though. trying to win more than i lose - that's the name of the game.
You people keep saying that I wasn't right, but I was. Don't you see, the whole reason why we stopped the freefall and had a sustained market was the thought that the original cause "CDO's" would just be wiped out. He then backtracked and changed the game. I was RIGHT on both accounts.
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funny thing is? i KNEW Paulson wasn't buying the CDO's a full month before he got on TV and made that announcement. why was it suddenly news?
the Treasury PR'ed when they began buying the prefereds and nobody got upset then. there was no way they could do both with only 700 billion
IMO? this market is being manipualted to the hilt, and Paulson is right at the center of it.
what made you suddnely change your mind on that press conference?
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: funny thing is? i KNEW Paulson wasn't buying the CDO's a full month before he got on TV and made that announcement. why was it suddenly news?
the Treasury PR'ed when they began buying the prefereds and nobody got upset then. there was no way they could do both with only 700 billion
IMO? this market is being manipualted to the hilt, and Paulson is right at he center of it.
I agree, I think Paulson should be at the very least questioned about his lack of transparency about the TARP and the waiting game.
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look, we knew 700 billion would only begin to cover the CDO problem before the TARP was aproved.
Treasury announced a full month and half ago they were buying prefereds.
Paulson's press conference was not news.
why did you change your mind?
i have a theory.
i cannot prove it yet, but mark this. the market is FLOODED with non-existant stock.
call it whatever you want. NS, counterfeitts i don't care, but there's people that have raised CASH by shorting, and they can't buy it back because the cash went out the door.
the market will have to go down and they have to raise cash to fix it. how is that going to happen?
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I give you credit for an EXCELLENT technical bounce call invester. There is still too much volatility and fear out there imo to call a solid bottom, I hope you can do it again, and then we can mark our confirmation on the way up.
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Market is crazy. Probably will follow thru on Monday but I would be selling into the strength. Government can do all they want!! THEY NEED TO LET EVERYTHING SELF CORRECT!
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darnit, this is the first afternoon runup i've missed in awhile...
i really didn't think friday would be buyday
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When the bottom was called, we all had the same information, whether technical or fundamental. And still I knew it wasn't over. I think we will see 4-5 more "false" bottoms.
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quote:Originally posted by jon clogger: When the bottom was called, we all had the same information, whether technical or fundamental. And still I knew it wasn't over. I think we will see 4-5 more "false" bottoms.
I knew, i KNEW, You didn’t know crap, as you never do. I post my thoughts before any information comes out. I ALWAYS ONLY SEE MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!!!!! Stop saying, I knew this would happen, or I knew there wouldn’t be enough money in the TARP, or I saw this coming.. Every one of you is full of SHI#. I speak ALL of my views before anything comes out and I am always right. I am SO tired of Glass, Peaser AND THE REST OF YOU saying you could analyze the situation before hand. THEN POST IT BEFORE HAND DIP SHI^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so good at what I do, and will never post a thread on this site again until the idiots contain themselves. I can’t stand ignorance, or VEY DUMB PEOPLE.
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quote:Originally posted by jon clogger: When the bottom was called, we all had the same information, whether technical or fundamental. And still I knew it wasn't over. I think we will see 4-5 more "false" bottoms.
I knew, i KNEW, You didn’t know crap, as you never do. I post my thoughts before any information comes out. I ALWAYS ONLY SEE MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!!!!! Stop saying, I knew this would happen, or I knew there wouldn’t be enough money in the TARP, or I saw this coming.. Every one of you is full of SHI#. I speak ALL of my views before anything comes out and I am always right. I am SO tired of Glass, Peaser AND THE REST OF YOU saying you could analyze the situation before hand. THEN POST IT BEFORE HAND DIP SHI^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so good at what I do, and will never post a thread on this site again until the idiots contain themselves. I can’t stand ignorance, or VEY DUMB PEOPLE.
LOL
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quote:Originally posted by jon clogger: When the bottom was called, we all had the same information, whether technical or fundamental. And still I knew it wasn't over. I think we will see 4-5 more "false" bottoms.
I knew, i KNEW, You didn’t know crap, as you never do. I post my thoughts before any information comes out. I ALWAYS ONLY SEE MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!!!!! Stop saying, I knew this would happen, or I knew there wouldn’t be enough money in the TARP, or I saw this coming.. Every one of you is full of SHI#. I speak ALL of my views before anything comes out and I am always right. I am SO tired of Glass, Peaser AND THE REST OF YOU saying you could analyze the situation before hand. THEN POST IT BEFORE HAND DIP SHI^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so good at what I do, and will never post a thread on this site again until the idiots contain themselves. I can’t stand ignorance, or VEY DUMB PEOPLE.
yer just too much, relax dude. We are on your side, no one likes watching their life savings go down the tubes. my posts
quote:Originally Posted by BooDog on October 10, 2008 11:34: [QUOTE]Posted by BooDog on October 10, 2008 11:34:
I picked support at 7,500. Either way i would like to see at least a decent double bottom as Glass suggested.
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Posted by BooDog on October 10, 2008 12:51:
No risk no reward. So far so good. And there is certainly plenty of room for going up. I won't mind missing bottom to wait till next week for putting back in some of my TSP (govt 401k). Good luck invester!
Now think about this, and then think about todays bull/bear trap. A lower low is still a lower low.
Dow Jones Industrial Average(DJI: ^DJI) Index Value: 8,046.42 Trade Time: 4:07PM ET Change: 494.13 (6.54%) Prev Close: 7,552.29 Open: 7,552.37 Day's Range: 7449.38 - 8071.75 52wk Range: 7,392.27 - 13,850.90
quote: Posted by BooDog on October 15, 2008 17:24:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Peaser: My guess is 5000 on the Dow. Wait and see. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yikes. Having trouble with stockcharts. Trying to get a chart from 1996 to present. I'm leaning towards my pick of 7,500. Break 7k? wow. I like seeing consolidation, kinda hard to see that with 1k swings.
Then I worked some of my chart magic and changed my outlook slightly. Trace back a few pages and see the charts I posted.
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Posted by BooDog on October 22, 2008 20:42: I still like my support line at 7300.
Is anything in stone? hell no. I do plan on working up some more charts and see what I can analyze. I'm no better than anyone else looking at a chart, but what to do with it? My retirement fund only allows 2 trades a month. Investers trigger when he called bottom presented a great op to put a little back in for the ride, i also had my resistance levels which put me back under cover. And now? 40% back in for the next ride. imo there is so much volatility it's nuts. is it new money coming in from people runing from their brokers and trying to do it on their own? Just nuts out there. Invester, don't forget yourself. Everyone has a view. Each view can be used to help make another view. Good luck and I hope you stick around.
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quote:Originally posted by BooDog: I give you credit for an EXCELLENT technical bounce call invester. There is still too much volatility and fear out there imo to call a solid bottom, I hope you can do it again, and then we can mark our confirmation on the way up.
Wow, "do it again" WTF.
I'm still waiting for the first...
Oh wait, there wasn't one. It was a dead cat bounce.
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quote:Originally posted by BooDog: I give you credit for an EXCELLENT technical bounce call invester. There is still too much volatility and fear out there imo to call a solid bottom, I hope you can do it again, and then we can mark our confirmation on the way up.
Wow, "do it again" WTF.
I'm still waiting for the first...
Oh wait, there wasn't one. It was a dead cat bounce.
However he called it - it lasted longer than a dead cat bounce imo. And he put his name on it. Now take NNBR for example, i've been playing that dead cat lately, put it on watch here ~played it like a big dog 1.63 to 2.07 and now it's on its way to ANOTHER dead cat bounce "my friends" (lmao - just can't get enough of that line) anyway, that is a dead cat bounce imo. But NO, we knew it wasn't bottom. Just as we with some pretty good certainty say that today wasn't bottom. Post your analysis EVERYONE and lets compare some notes. btw, my nnbr play was on top gun in chat. oh yeah, I did mark NNBR at 1.60 for the bounce... http://topgun***********/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1502&view=findpost&p=1750 9 that's trading . net in place of the stars
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oh, and no comments that my dow pick was 7300 - 7500 and it was right in there today.
not even a pat on the back
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i wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with anybody, especially you.
my problem is that i do not understand what happened to people (you included) after paulsons infamous TARP announcement.
i asked you why you changed your mind in earnest.
whatever it was called? i saw stability at your "bottom" and i saw it erode on EMOTIONS. nothing more nothing less.
i played BGU off that "bottom" several times.
i saw you change your mind whch is absolutely fine, but it would help me be a better analyst if i knew why.
i could see everybody on the TV change their minds too. but i still have no idea why they did.
if you think i was jerking your chain? you've never had your chain jerked.
these are ruff times. you know what they say when the going gets gets tuff? the tuff get some.
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