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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
lol, don't get too fired up..."retiredat49" also ain't a big fan of p 'n d scammers who fleece newbs...

I was a "fleeced" newbie last year for sure so I can understand the dislike for the p 'n dumpers. It was my fleecing in some of my other plays that caused me to skim some profits from CSHD so im thankful for the lesson learned but VERY cautious these days. It took me a lonnnnng time to understand some of your posts specifically Tex....ie explaining when I was coming off pumpish or pointing out where pumping was taking place.

I hope "someone" took note of the activity on the FHAL thread from November 05 ~ October 06. I strongly suspect there was some fleecing taking place here on Allstocks! Its interesting going back and reading those threads today....knowing what i know now.

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From Rufus - Getting some things off his chest this morning.............

In a public or even private corporation you have what is called Authorized and Issued shares!! That is it!!

The MM’s do not care what your books say; they do not care about the law. They will sell shares behind the DTC system direct to another MM and do it with no fear!!

Our Government does not care because the people doing it make large contributions and are the money centers of the economy.

Their profits go to the bottom line of their books, hiding their elusive and large salaries.

A Good question; why did TD Ameritrade sell Knight? A very profitable business!! Some one posted that we can not see anything changing in the market, well then you are not paying attention!!

I can understand personal financial problems, but understand this 95% of you bought shares that are not real, you broker sold you illegal shares and when push comes to shove your broker will pass the buck to knight!! Some of you say that you bought shares just because of Rufus Paul Harris, and feel the need to vent on me, just remember this; I did not sell you yours illegal shares, but I am here to help you get our just reward!!

Knight and a few others are our goal, the golden eggs in the basket per say.

Yes the SEC and other government agencies sit back and do nothing, they have for years and if they do not know the truth of the system then our country is in grave trouble and run by idiots!!

Yes they know the system but taking on the RICO rings of Wall Street takes faith, something they lack!! You see, you can not work for the SEC with the knowledge of the true system, do nothing and have a good heart at the same time.

The SEC was founded to protect the investors not the fraudsters!! Just reading that seems dirty doesn’t it!!

I have told everyone and even put it in PR’s about the illegal shares from way back! I have stated in PR’s and 8-K’s that if you buy a share ask for your HCC.

Those of you that are feeling financial pressure, GODSPEED and May your GOD BLESS you and your family.

To the negative posters; You either find your peace with the truth of the situation or understand that I and others are working against the Beast and will fight the good fight until victory or just stop posting, vent on IHUB or HSM where negativity is sowed.

Everyone is in the same boat, Yes I as CEO want long term investors, I have stated in the past if you are in for short term profits I do not want you as a shareholders, and Yes I stated that when we were at $3.35 per share not .016!!

OTCBB, PK and most NASDAQ stocks are like playing the slots in Vegas, the system is not designed for you to make a quick buck unless you are a Wall Street player and receive phone calls from other MM ‘s to plot your exit!!

The Fact of the situation is; if you are worried about a quick exit to sell your shares for profits and not worried about your portfolio value then you are not an investor but a flipper.

CSHD is designed for long term investors and if you truly listened to what I have said on message boards and SPR then you would know that or if you have read the wed site!! The corporation is and was designed to give the investor returns through subsidiaries stock spin-off’s.

Yes, due to the system and illegal market activity we are where we are today!!

I can not continue to be the glue that holds the sanity on this board, I have very important meetings coming up and will be around a lot less!!

This Board was created for the longs to have a place that they do not have to hear lies and ridicule from false prophets and read the crap of spinsters, a safe haven per say!!

Things are going very well for us!! This is the point where some of you realize that some of the so called longs are ghost voices!!

Do not expect to be updated daily, and beware of those that try to sway your attitude toward the dark side!! We are all in the same boat and if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem!!

Just a few things that I needed to get off of my chest!! To those of you that are offended, Hmmmmmm

Hold on tight we are headed over the last and the roughest rapids of the trip!!

Those with peace and foresight; look around and you will see monkeys humping footballs, throwing rocks, throwing crap, and with sticks trying to poke holes in our rafts.

GODSPEED and Love Ya All
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Okay, the "humping footballs" comment does it. He's totally, 100% insane...
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Rufus, & others talking about the CEO drama...Rufus' post is in bold...




Today at 11:38am, St. Matthew wrote:Rufus,

Question...when we were in Dallas at La Finca's, you suggested (even urged) that someone start a SHC. Was this part of your foresight...in effect making it part of the plan? Did you want to expose their plan to take over the company illegally?


Today at 11:31am, Rufus Paul Harris wrote:

Let me help you understand the seriousness of all of the circumstances!!
They used MA’s 50 million (which is what NIR shorted against!!) to vote with out a published proxy; this is typical of them and was fully expected, yes a little foresight on my behalf.

A Big Problem that creates; MA also voted the same shares without a published proxy on the merger!! Uhhh Ohhhhh

Because of no SEC filing at the time the shares where not even in the DTC system and would not have showed up in a legal proxy vote via ADP NOBO!!!

There is so much more!!!

This is what I do people and I don’t lose





Yes too an extent: It could have went two ways, good people showed up and preformed via the corporate charters or the crap floated to the top and violated state, federal and corporate laws to perform a takeover!!
Either way it would have worked to the better; 1 good people could have moved the corporation forward with guidance or 2 exposed the bad intentions of a few
This was necessary, if we would have went into court and won then the crooks showed up to perform a cover up after they rubbed the SEC butt by making kiss butt filings, we could have loss the assets
There was never any legal cooperation from the TA or the corporation; They never produced the SEC codes for filing on EDGAR, just another illegal action in the WEBB of deceit!! That showed to us that they were never going to go a way

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Oye!
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What gives?

5 time the daily volume today!

[Eek!] WOW [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
What gives?

5 time the daily volume today!

[Eek!] WOW [Eek!]

Yea thats kinda weird considering that it has dropped significantly the last couple of weeks. I seriously doubt that these are legit trades.....i just cant wrap my mind around that possibility at this point in the game.
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Just in case anyone had the same question for Rufus:

Rufus' answer in bold...


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[ Exalt | Smite ] Re: Thursday, May 24th
« Reply #650 on Yesterday at 9:16pm »

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Yesterday at 9:13pm, rwscott01 wrote:hey RUFUS, just wondering about the s-4...dont you need that to make the merger "official" if not please tell me, im not that educated on that part i guess.



No S-4 was only to register cvsu convertible note holders and ABS

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sounds like pretty fine hair-splitting to me...


Jenna, ask 'em--if it's not necessary, why was it mentioned in the 8K that describes the proposed merger?

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Tex, I have no idea about this S-4 stuff, but I thought for those of you that do, that this would be nice to know.... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
From Rufus - Getting some things off his chest this morning.............

In a public or even private corporation you have what is called Authorized and Issued shares!! That is it!!

The MM’s do not care what your books say; they do not care about the law. They will sell shares behind the DTC system direct to another MM and do it with no fear!!

Our Government does not care because the people doing it make large contributions and are the money centers of the economy.

Their profits go to the bottom line of their books, hiding their elusive and large salaries.

A Good question; why did TD Ameritrade sell Knight? A very profitable business!! Some one posted that we can not see anything changing in the market, well then you are not paying attention!!

I can understand personal financial problems, but understand this 95% of you bought shares that are not real, you broker sold you illegal shares and when push comes to shove your broker will pass the buck to knight!! Some of you say that you bought shares just because of Rufus Paul Harris, and feel the need to vent on me, just remember this; I did not sell you yours illegal shares, but I am here to help you get our just reward!!

Knight and a few others are our goal, the golden eggs in the basket per say.

Yes the SEC and other government agencies sit back and do nothing, they have for years and if they do not know the truth of the system then our country is in grave trouble and run by idiots!!

Yes they know the system but taking on the RICO rings of Wall Street takes faith, something they lack!! You see, you can not work for the SEC with the knowledge of the true system, do nothing and have a good heart at the same time.

The SEC was founded to protect the investors not the fraudsters!! Just reading that seems dirty doesn’t it!!

I have told everyone and even put it in PR’s about the illegal shares from way back! I have stated in PR’s and 8-K’s that if you buy a share ask for your HCC.

Those of you that are feeling financial pressure, GODSPEED and May your GOD BLESS you and your family.

To the negative posters; You either find your peace with the truth of the situation or understand that I and others are working against the Beast and will fight the good fight until victory or just stop posting, vent on IHUB or HSM where negativity is sowed.

Everyone is in the same boat, Yes I as CEO want long term investors, I have stated in the past if you are in for short term profits I do not want you as a shareholders, and Yes I stated that when we were at $3.35 per share not .016!!

OTCBB, PK and most NASDAQ stocks are like playing the slots in Vegas, the system is not designed for you to make a quick buck unless you are a Wall Street player and receive phone calls from other MM ‘s to plot your exit!!

The Fact of the situation is; if you are worried about a quick exit to sell your shares for profits and not worried about your portfolio value then you are not an investor but a flipper.

CSHD is designed for long term investors and if you truly listened to what I have said on message boards and SPR then you would know that or if you have read the wed site!! The corporation is and was designed to give the investor returns through subsidiaries stock spin-off’s.

Yes, due to the system and illegal market activity we are where we are today!!

I can not continue to be the glue that holds the sanity on this board, I have very important meetings coming up and will be around a lot less!!

This Board was created for the longs to have a place that they do not have to hear lies and ridicule from false prophets and read the crap of spinsters, a safe haven per say!!

Things are going very well for us!! This is the point where some of you realize that some of the so called longs are ghost voices!!

Do not expect to be updated daily, and beware of those that try to sway your attitude toward the dark side!! We are all in the same boat and if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem!!

Just a few things that I needed to get off of my chest!! To those of you that are offended, Hmmmmmm

Hold on tight we are headed over the last and the roughest rapids of the trip!!

Those with peace and foresight; look around and you will see monkeys humping footballs, throwing rocks, throwing crap, and with sticks trying to poke holes in our rafts.

GODSPEED and Love Ya All
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"To the negative posters; You either find your peace with the truth of the situation or understand that I and others are working against the Beast and will fight the good fight until victory or just stop posting, vent on IHUB or HSM where negativity is sowed."

The Truth is what is not evident. Unless of course people believe that what Rufus says is the truth. I for do not. Truth is back by verifiable facts and that is what is missing here. Not just from Rufus but also from the SEC. We have seen their ALLEGATIONS but not one thing that backs those allegations to a point where a preponderance of evidence makes it apparent. We must always remember that at this point it is a civil case and not a criminal case. This means that the "Threshold" is that there is more evidence that supports one side not the criminal "Threshold" of beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm still waiting for Rufus to file or even post anything that proves his position. Unfortunately, I have yet to see it.

As far as the increases in volume today, I would say someone got tired of holding and sold.

10 of resonableness, I lied and posted again before the end of the month. I guess I'm getting Rufusitis and missing deadlines. At least mine are early and not late. Just Kidding OK.

Hopefully I will be around and posting more. Situations change, not only with stocks but with life in general. Since I posted about my situation here I will update but please do not flood the board with well wishes or condolences since I know before anyone states it the feelings of those I have known here. Before I was able to bring my Father home he passed away. He did it his way and I respect that.

I am hoping for a much happier and more joyful outcome with Dante. I hope all put their energies into his recovery because those energies are or at least should be used for the living and not those that have passed and already know their fate.

Let's keep on topic with the stock and with the positive energy we can gather for Dante that he may one day learn to hold a bag as well as sell a winner.

GLTA
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Two-parter, for Jen & Wally:

Jen, what's your take on the S-4 issue? ie, why do you think it was asked in the first place? What do you think RPH intends by his response?

Wally, you mention the SEC's allegations (correctly noting the distinction between civil vs. criminal proceedings) and go on to question why they have not yet presented "a preponderance of evidence."

This seems to be a fairly common question/lament, but it mystifies me--why do you think (without asking you to "speak for others") the SEC should have presented its case already?

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
Two-parter, for Jen & Wally:

Jen, what's your take on the S-4 issue? ie, why do you think it was asked in the first place? What do you think RPH intends by his response?

Wally, you mention the SEC's allegations (correctly noting the distinction between civil vs. criminal proceedings) and go on to question why they have not yet presented "a preponderance of evidence."

This seems to be a fairly common question/lament, but it mystifies me--why do you think (without asking you to "speak for others") the SEC should have presented its case already?

Well, if the SEC is really out to protect investors, then they should be presenting all evidence and closing the case as quickly as possible. I mean the stock is still trading so the potential for loss is still there. In my mind it's all about the why? If they, the SEC decides to move as they did here and in other cases, they should have their ducks in a row, in order to minimize potential losses by investors.

That being said, from the research that I have done, the SEC actions usually take anywhere from a year and a half to 2 years to complete. In the meantime investors are left to fend for themselves. Not the best of situations, if of course the goal is to protect investors.

I question their methods. A DA usually waits until he/she has a case that is more likely to win than lose before bringing charges, why should we expect less from the SEC?

The true problem is that we as investor are left with a He said/She said scenario since neither side is willing to present any facts. How does this benefit any investor? Those who had already invested and seen the PPS drop to oblivion or those looking at this as a possible risk VS Reward? I mean why can't the agency that claims to represent us have some transparency?

I have been shocked at the responses that shareholders have recieved from Alana and the other SEC Represenative, since I was under the impression that they could not comment on an investigation that was on going.

As far as the S4, I was under the impression that it did need to be completed as part of the merger agreement but then nothing seems to be as it seems with this play. Heck in reading the postings of Rufus, I'm still not sure whether the merger can be unwound or not. Just way toooooooo much open for intrepretation here and no one willing to step up to the plate.

Well, that's my take and I'm sticking to it. Well, at least until some REAL facts come out.

GLTA
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quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
What gives?

5 time the daily volume today!

[Eek!] WOW [Eek!]

Time will tell. [Wink]

Its not "someone that was tired of holding".. that is for sure.

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hey hotshots who love rufus dufus so much...

how does yahoo have EPS at .38?

If I recall, wasn't in one of the quartertly reports or some other filings where it showed they were making like 38million in interest from their assets or something? If thats true, shouldnt rufus dufus have plenty of money for an attorney LMAO...

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o, calm down...

peeps are having a hard time figurin' this out

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quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
hey hotshots who love rufus dufus so much...

how does yahoo have EPS at .38?

If I recall, wasn't in one of the quartertly reports or some other filings where it showed they were making like 38million in interest from their assets or something? If thats true, shouldnt rufus dufus have plenty of money for an attorney LMAO...

Whether the company has money or not isn't really what is being discussed. I am far from a Rufus supporter but do have questions as to how and why the SEC does what they do. If they have the goods then they should shut it down if they don't then they should not have suspended it.

This is all discussion that we can learn from. If all you offer is jokes at the expense of people losing money then I really have no time for you.

If you read the posts you might understand that most here are attempting to learn from this experience.

GLTA
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Wally,
Long post, which most will not want to read, but I bet you find it interesting...

I agree that changes need to made--for one, I still can't believe Cox was named Chairman... I mean changes at fundamental levels, including a complete restructuring of the DTCC nexus...

On the other hand, the SEC should be busting more scams, not less. I think almost everyone who really researches these areas concludes that *all* the reg agencies involved are limited in the resources they can allocate. In other words, when it comes to assigning staff, they're making priorities between investigations of Enrons/MCIs, etc and "stinky pinkies"... So resource allocation explains part of the slowness.

The other part is the sheer enormity of the job: it's one thing to be pretty sure something's amiss at any given company, broker, trading firm, etc...but proving up legally is another matter. In short, they don't want to go into a hearing or courtroom...only to lose.

I've found a couple of articles that help shed some light, I think. I believe they're both by the same attorney and give a pretty clear idea of how much time and effort are required even *before* formal investigations are launched. I won't quote the entire articles, but here's some excerpts (with links), in which I have emphasized what I consider "key points":

(from "When the SEC Comes Calling," http://www.seclaw.com/docs/597.htm)
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Testimony before regulatory agencies is an extremely serious matter. Regulators can ask questions on nearly any topic they choose, and incorrect testimony can have serious repercussions for the broker. Therefore, such testimony should not be given without first speaking to an attorney, and rarely should a witness give such testimony without an attorney present. While most testimony is given by witnesses, not wrongdoers, the SEC and the NASD can have a serious impact on a broker's license, and the testimony can start a lengthy process that could take years to resolve. If the matter is not properly handled from the outset, the damage can be long lasting, and costly.
In other words, (1)they cast a wide net (2) a decent attorney will tell the client early-on to be ready for a long-term process and (3) it's *critical* to mount a proper defense from the very start.

I think this is pertinent, in this case:

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During the examination, it is important to keep in mind that the staff members who attend the deposition will have a role in determining whether further action will be taken. Therefore, the witness' demeanor and attitude during the examination are important.
In a subsequent article, "The Wells Notice in SEC and NASD Investigations" ( http://www.seclaw.com/docs/wellsnotice.htm )the same author says that Wells Notices are not required but have become customary and that:

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Receiving a Wells Notice is hardly a positive event, as it signifies that you are the subject of an investigation and that enforcement proceedings are < note: as I understand it, he should should use the word probably here, as in "are probably going to be filed" --tex> going to be commenced against you. However, a Wells Notice is rarely a surprise, and provides a unique opportunity for a prospective defendant to speak directly to the ultimate decision maker prior to the commencement of regulatory proceedings. The process by-passes the District or Regional Staff, and allows the prospective defendant to present his case against the commencement of the proceedings directly to the decision makers, without filtering or misunderstanding of the Staff.
To me this again speaks to the issue of due process. Also, a quick Google search reveals that companies often announce they have received a Wells Notice... At any rate, he explains that a response to the notice is called a Wells Submission and argues quite forcibly that deciding whether to make that submission is crucially important--most should *not*, he says and explains the pitfalls...it's really good reading. But I find this extremely telling:

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When do we respond to a Wells Notice? When there is a clear error in the facts (which I have never experienced) or in two other events – first, where there is a clear and compelling policy argument against the commencement of enforcement proceedings, or second, where the Staff is misinterpreting the law or the facts.
Remember, this is a *defense* attorney, and he says, parenthetically, mind you--as if it's common knowledge in legal circles--that he's never seen "a clear error" in the facts--even at that early stage... Pretty sobering stuff, even if only one attorney's perspective. Now, I have *not* DD'd his background, but the credits give me confidence of the relevance for purposes of discussion.

He goes on to give examples of Wells Submissions that *did* prevent formal investigations. Readers may be interested to see whether any of those apply in this case. Nothing "leaped out" at me, though...

At any rate, I hope this offers some insight into the tediousness involved. In this case, I think a proper response would not only have delayed the initial (default) judgments but also would have allowed the defense to begin its own discovery... By this I mean *not* a Wells Submission, but rather defendants' response to the original complaint. As it stands, I believe the default judgment precludes any defense access via the "discovery phase." But that's how early we are in the process--still waiting for a ruling on motion to strike. *If* that ruling sets aside the default judgment, then discovery could begin...after being a defendant in the BCIT case, that's my take, at any rate...

As a side note, I have no idea whether a Wells Notice was given, and that's something I think should definitely be changed: ie, I can understand not making it public knowledge, early on, but at some point the SEC should be required to post it, so folks know that, for instance, a given CEO was aware of an impending investigation...

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Tex,

Very informative, as usual.

I agree that fundamental changes need to be made.

Wasn't trying to imply that I believe Rufus over the SEC but was expressing the frustration with both as far as transparency for investors.

He, Rufus, claims he is doing it for the investor's and the SEC claims they are attempting to protect investors yet, it's the investor who have suffered and usually do in situations like this.

Not sure if a Wells notice was given but I do remember that the SEC gave Rufus' and company a chance to respond prior to taking action and the basically told the SEC to pound sand.

I was aware that actions like this take a long to time before any resoloution happens. From what I see anywhere from a year to more than 2 years.

I'm just thankful that I learned from people like you not to go all in on a stock like this and still have some capital to trade other issues.

In the words of muscial group: " Time keeps on slipping, slipping into the future."

Hope you and all here had a great and relaxing Memorial day weekend.

GLTA
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Here’s the latest from Paul/Rufus:

Hang in there everyone, Yes exit is in place and I am very excited about recent developments, to answer a few questions

I think the court has to answer by the 3rd at the latest, As the filings and court dates are set things will move very fast

HCC's will come into play then

Good Night and GOD BLESS ALL

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He seemed to be really hammering this guy, chartplayer. It sure seemed like Rufus felt this guy was/is a shorter or something, but I didn't read the whole saga. He asked this guy when he bought his shares, where, and what broker. It seems like Rufus might have all of that trade info he was talking about getting. From the following post, it looks like he looked the guy up:

I have a Fl and a Chicago, Ill from Scott trade on 5/15!!
Just checking Chart
I am not attacking you, just trying to figure out your motive, sorry for wasting your time!!
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From the FWIW Department this morning: From the RPH discussion board posting last night, it appears that RPH was on SPR again....following below is a series of notes that summarizes the episode: (credit goes to the poster named finity for the summary)


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[ Exalt | Smite ] Re: Wednesday, May 30th
« Reply #332 on Today at 7:12am »

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Today at 7:03am, neverlate wrote:GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FILL ME IN ON THE SPR INTERVEIW WITH RUFUS? THANKS NEVERLATE "SORRY I MISSED IT"



GM everyone. here's my bump briefs but everyone that listened had recaps also..Jersey, Joy, H20

concerning the 5/29/06 pr..about the" 20 million in initial capital"
RPH: transaction through credit facility in Europe where bonds were going to be hypothecated for CSHD.

Talked about entry of default: SEC and clerk
RPH: clerk cannot enter a default judgment unless there is a sum amount/judgment. (rule 55)

Illegal activity ex: $1 total trade that brought the stock down 50% today.
NASDAQ, OTCBB, OTC, DTCC: systems out of control

RPH: SEC cannot sort it out, accused of huge pump and dump
**I agree with the "dump"..who?
**SEC did not subpoena any brokerage firms on records for trading activity.
**Why? because they(SEC) know where it is, know what's going on.
**SEC could be part of a cover up, wants to pin on RPH
**Federal law says any subpoena submitted/carried out by the SEC, RPH is supposed to get a copy of it.
**To date (7 months?) no data from clearing houses or brokerage houses in this country has been contacted by the SEC.

**Bill Hicks (SEC) said to RPH they will supoena every trading record
**SEC never did anything, still wanted to pin P and D on RPH

**30 million, whole float traded; added up first 3 months..average of 3.8 million shares per day.
**illegal acts pockected millions

Englitchick: What's holding the exit?
RPH: MM doesn't care about rules. make billions with strategic, illegal activities and gets slapped with a million fine. MM truns around and do it again.
**"move in for the kill, make sure there's no exit for them" (market manupulators)

RPH: 3 different exits (options?) but perform action at particular time "shoot too earlier, don't hit target".."one shot, one kill"
**with exit, there will be shareholders that will lose. Electronic s/h, IRA accounts, those cannot get certs...not the time to put exit til benefit all shareholders.

SEC is regulatory agency..sees illegal activity (toxic funding, illegal trades,etc).."you see illegal activity, go in and arrest each of them; you got the evidence"
**it's corrupt world. It's the wrong thing to do to me.
**RPH suprised SEC didn't take it to federal court.
**It's a crime ring, RICO ring. I'm going to find where that money went...want a piece of it.

3 exits options:
**all have 6:1 as of record 10/16/06 (TPR part of merger agreement)
**SEC/TA (?) wanted it to be called a dividend
**RPH: if it was made as a dividend..MMs will make another $400 millions, wanted more money, greedy...pushed RPH for dividend.
**if you buy today for a penny, you will not get 6:1.
**whoever brought on greys will benefit with the price increase..benefit everyone.

**RPH: wants to see how honest the federal judge is..will see in first 10 minutes..how court handles it.
**If federal judge isn't "honest"(?).."I'll go straight to Congress".."It's been arranged".

**Fed judge (according to pacer system) has 3rd to answer to set a court date.
**2nd response by RPH is due June 15

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Great SPR replay with Rufus......makes you think something will hit the fan soon!!!!

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Hmmm, a possibility, what was in the sealed envelope that RPH gave the judge?

Maybe, a sealed document from a government agency stating RPH was working with that agency on a secret project to expose short sellers. Being sealed could mean to prove to the judge it in fact came from the Government without RPH having touched it.

Just a silly idea at this point but how would you cooperate with government to expose Short sellers AND keep tight lipped in the court process. The judge and SEC knows there are major issues with the shorters and if they bring down 1 broker it could cause a major chain reaction in the U.S. market. CRASH!

Just a silly idea? Or is it?

Can you say "Wallstreet III " the movie.?? [Big Grin]

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SPR replay just started again, but I think its about 3 hours or more before Rufus will be on.

I've listened to a little of the last replay and here's 2 things that pop out.

Rufus says that CSHD has been approached about a 2 billion dollar treasury draft. From what I gather, this is from the US Treasury. He said he also gave the general info on this draft to Alana Black.

Rufus also said that this is 1 of 5 games setup. He seems to be alluding to there being 4 other companies that are setup to catch the illegal activities. He said either CSHD would take care of it, or each of these other would bring their case out as well. Quite interesting there!

I'll add more when I get to listen to more of the show.

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And so the thread dangles, fraying ever so more every day.
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Thanks Milliam!

We can't say it isn't interesting.

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Somethings unusual, Another high volume day.. 2.4 million volume today..
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Went subpenny today as well. 2 transactions of 500,000 each at .005. Good buy or good bye???
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Hi board it has been a while.

Just an update:

My long standing limit order was finally filled to buy8500CSHD*0.02 but only after I lowered my amount to 8500 from 10000. This brought my share total to 37,100. I then requested 20,000 in hard cert. Which is still pending but being processed. I am curious to see who will sign the document. I will keep u posted. Jenna u have my prayers and thank you for the updates from the other board. Despite the negative opinions u offer relevant summaries on the info which can be gleaned over there. Keep it up. - CON

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My computer crashed when I was recording the SPR interview, so I don't have it all to listen to (probably about half), but I'll get back with my notes from that half.

Meanwhile, interesting post from the other board:

Yesterday at 3:31pm, fido wrote:
Mr. Harris,
Is there any scenario you can foresee that will cause us to lose the battle?

RPH reply:
My death!!And even then I have warriors in place to march on

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Simon sez:

he will a segment that is RPH-only, edited from the show you mention, running this weekend...

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Thanks Tex, I'll check that out.
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If Rufus is still showing up on SPR I have to think there is still a glimmer of hope.

I just wish we had some hard facts. A PR from CSHD or Rufus or even an update from the SEC.

ANYTHING

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Hi All!!! I recieved my certs last week....

signed by John Arlitt, & also the T/A....

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