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That is true and thats why you have a judge to interpret the laws of the land . There are two types of law , book law and case law . Both can be great tools in the hands of someone who knows how to use them just like religion is .

Once again , this whole arguement is moot since none of it even matters . CSHD is stuck in the mud until they get an attorney . No attorney equals no chance in hell of anything getting any better . The SEC will file a motion to put the company into receivership and its lights out for CSHD and whatever assets it might or might not have . As for Rufus and those closely tied to this , they may or may not be screwed . I think the fact Rufus is already on probation for DWI , he will serve time if convicted of anything thats a class B offense or higher which anything Federal pretty much is . I would also like to see them go after Mike A. since he seems to have more assets available to him here in Texas .

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Originally posted by thesource:
Like I said , I personally could not care less if you believe or trust me . Here's something to think about though . I have not cost you a single dime of your money nor have I profitted in any way from this stock going down . But you'd rather listen and believe some bumbling fool who claims to have won the republican of the year award , been involved with special mandates from the U.S government , has bonds worth billions of dollars , has friends in high places such as the U.N and congress , claims to have shorty by the nuts , will bring down the SEC , will right all the wrongs of the world and claims to raise race horses without a single shred of proof on anything . I could go on and on and on .

You people that continue to bury heads and not learn from this will be doomed to repeat it on something else . All I can say is better you than me .

You must care, you are still here trying to dig our heads up from the sand. All the while we tell you we wouldn't pay for your advice even if it was "FREE", but there in lies the problem.

You feel your comments don't cost the average shareholder anything, but you are continously speaking negatively on a public message board focused on information on a publically traded company. Even if someone wants to post a general warning every now and then, or if they do nothing but spout off positive biased info all the time it still costs someone something that reads this information and takes it to heart. If the information is not public and verifiable in nature, meaning it is not PR'd, in an SEC filing or court document then it is speculation and speculation cost someone something.

So thanks for your so called "FREE" advice. [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

(You are definitely giving me many uses for the roll eyes icon tonight...) so thanks for that too. HAHA!!

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I haven't read all this--and my brain couldn't take it at the moment. Is this worth buying? Was up nice today. Or is that a bad thing to ask-lol?
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quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
That is true and thats why you have a judge to interpret the laws of the land . There are two types of law , book law and case law . Both can be great tools in the hands of someone who knows how to use them just like religion is .

Once again , this whole arguement is moot since none of it even matters . CSHD is stuck in the mud until they get an attorney . No attorney equals no chance in hell of anything getting any better . The SEC will file a motion to put the company into receivership and its lights out for CSHD and whatever assets it might or might not have . As for Rufus and those closely tied to this , they may or may not be screwed . I think the fact Rufus is already on probation for DWI , he will serve time if convicted of anything thats a class B offense or higher which anything Federal pretty much is . I would also like to see them go after Mike A. since he seems to have more assets available to him here in Texas .

This post is pretty sad too but I am getting tired of responding to you, so I will only comment on the part I feel you got right. Yes they should go after Mike A. HAHA!!

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If there was something positive to speak about when it comes to this company , I would say it . So far I've yet to find anything positive about it including its cash flow .

Show me something positive since its got to be obvious . Everyone seems to see it but me ......

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quote:
Originally posted by dough boy:
I haven't read all this--and my brain couldn't take it at the moment. Is this worth buying? Was up nice today. Or is that a bad thing to ask-lol?

They are still getting posts like this over here on Allstocks? Wow! I guess it is the design of the board and how activity places it on the top of the list that causes this.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Very nice posts Taxback....

Here, in case you missed it the first time "thesource" http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

IMO it might be useful to you later this week

Hey Catia! Hows it going? You know a guy comes back to read a few posts, makes a simple comment. One person asks you for your opinion, you give it and then it becomes a whole day affair. Just crazy. HAHA!! [Big Grin]
Yea, I sorta noticed you walking into that affair but I found your posts so interesting I decided to just let ya go [Smile]

Anyway, things are going pretty good. Hopefully the same for you...

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I knew I wouldn't get an answer either way--but hey I tried-lol
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quote:
Originally posted by dough boy:
I knew I wouldn't get an answer either way--but hey I tried-lol

hmmmmmm tried to post you some links but it didnt work. Do LOTS of reading before thinking about this one
[Big Grin]

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quote:
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Originally posted by dough boy:
I knew I wouldn't get an answer either way--but hey I tried-lol

hmmmmmm tried to post you some links but it didnt work. Do LOTS of reading before thinking about this one
[Big Grin]

I know--but with this one I don't think my brain can handle it-I think I would be reading for days. I was just thinking of getting a little in the AM
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Dough Boy...most that are in this have been in it since before the SEC halted it...this is extremely messy...I would not suggest to anyone to buy this...I am hoping for the best and I have already made money on it...(several months ago)...but to buy in now? I wouldn't suggest it...it is a total lotto play...You either win or you loose...One that you won't know if you win or loose for months down the road...Be careful...and GLTY!

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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Dough Boy...most that are in this have been in it since before the SEC halted it...this is extremely messy...I would not suggest to anyone to buy this...I am hoping for the best and I have already made money on it...(several months ago)...but to buy in now? I wouldn't suggest it...it is a total lotto play...You either win or you loose...One that you won't know if you win or loose for months down the road...Be careful...and GLTY!

Thanks 10of13. I know it is a huge mess, just thought it may be at the very bottom and noticed the big gains today. I know it means nothing to you guys (the green), but for me I thought I may take a small stab at it--and not hold long..
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Dough boy...have you ever tried to buy or sell on the greys? there is no bid or ask...you just put your order in and hope...Hoping it works out for you...!

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LOL--yes I noticed that just now--think I will stay away. Thanks
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quote:
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Originally posted by T e x:
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Originally posted by TaxBack04:
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Originally posted by milliam:
Ok Tax, if you're correct...what about the company? Is Rufus just going to answer for himself and forget about the company?

I kind of agree that the SEC's answer isn't the best thing they could do (or maybe it is [Frown] ), but I still think we need a lawyer. I really hate to agree with thesource....REALLY [Big Grin] .

My thoughts are that Mr. Harris realy believes a quick win of his case clears up any wrong doing of the company. I personally think the approach is risky, but if you got an ace up your sleeve. The risk is greatly reduced.

I don't know how this is going to end, but it would not surprise me if the motion to strike gets granted. The default IMO should have never been granted either but it was the very next day.

The court case does not seem to be very clean. Filings and case evidence from both parties seem very sloppy. While the judge has done nothing to try and clean up the proceedings.

I know Mr. Harris's excuse since he has yet to reveal a legal team, but what excuse does the SEC have? [Roll Eyes]

lotsa confusion here... 1) I think you're talking about, maybe, a clerical error...at worst re whatever clerk typed up the docket. That may lead back to the "answer" itself, in that RPH does attempt to answer for both himself *and* the company. That alone is sufficient grounds for the strike.

2) What RPH "believes" has nothing whatsoever to do with it...court procedure is what it is, regardless of anyone's beliefs...to be able to answer (for himself, not the company) he would first have to enter a motion to set aside the default...with an argument compelling enough to have the motion granted.

3) The default was granted because no one bothered to respond, for whatever reason. It was a slam dunk.

4) What can the judge "clean up"? The SEC asked for what it wanted and got it without a fight...

5) What excuse? The SEC made its request, the request was granted, and they continue to compile evidence for whatever further actions they're contemplating, which at *the least* seem to be an order for disgorgement.

1a.)"a clerical error...at worst" That is one heck of a clerical error. HAHA!! Your funny.


2a.)"What RPH "believes" has nothing whatsoever to do with it..." In the context above it make alot of since. Especially since it is in reguards to how Mr. Harris is approaching his own legal defense if any at all.

3a.)"The default was granted because no one bothered to respond, for whatever reason." I do not have enough information to know if it was that cut and dried. I hear rumor that both CSHD and Mr. Harris were not served properly in the first place. Then you have the fact that Mr. Harris did show up in court and provided evidence on site, so it is not like he was totally ignoring the complaint. Default is usually reserved for cases where NO response is given. Showing up to court and putting evidence in hand is not a formal write up but should have been enough to stave off a Default Motion.

4a.)"What can the judge "clean up"?" HIS PROCEEDINGS... I did not studder. If someone brought a case to me and said this person stole money, but we have no evidence. And the other guy says I don't have an attourney. And I say to one party... "Quick go get edvidence and be back soon." and then say to the other party... "Quick go get an attourney and be back soon." And then 6 months later both return and neither has done what I had asked. As a Federal Judge I would either throw them both in jail or throw them both out. This case is in a sad state for both parties and the Judge is somewhat responsible because he is ignoring it.

5a.) "What excuse?" Your right ther is no excuse for the SEC not having ANY evidence at this point. They should have went for damages the day after the default was granted. Why wait? What is the hold up?

Why am I debating this with you of ALL people TEX? [Roll Eyes]

I am not near this battle field, and from my perspective I have very little idea of the strategy and status of either of the opposing sides. I qualified my statements with "My thoughts" and they are based on what "I have witnessed" which I admit freely is very limited. You on the other hand speak as if you know the strategies of this case as fact. How close are you to the battle field? Personally, I am willing to gamble that you are no closer than I, and are just being combative because of emotion, or motive/agenda. Which basically means ANY debate is a total waste of time, I don't feel your emotion if you have any, and I definitely do not share your motive/agenda if you have any.

I just want to see the case end, and justice served. As a proud shareholder, ofcourse I would like to see CSHD prevail, but if wrong was done then action should be taken good or bad.

T-back? Perhaps you don't know, but I was out-of-pocket for much of the "run" of this play, so I don't recall too well all the individual posters, pro or con. However, I can tell from your recent posts that you are having a hard time coming to grips with the way the system works...

In fact, you're so close to the issue that you've even picked up on some of the diction and syntax style that RPH himself uses: eg, "battlefield" "I didn't studder [sic]" etc... highly metaphorical, hyperbolic, and a sort of--how shall I phrase it? I guess, kind of a "bar-room" edge...lol, I almost expect to be asked if I wanna "go outside."

Now, to tone things down, here's sumpin you posted to me:

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I don't feel your emotion if you have any, and . . .
nope, you are right about that--not much emotion involved for me. Emotion leads to bad trades, pure and simple. Anybody who's familiar with my posts knows what I think about emotional trading.

You also seem to question my integrity, invoking fact vs "strategies":

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You on the other hand speak as if you know the strategies of this case as fact.
Am not sure what you mean by strategies, but I speak/write as I do--my best take at any given moment: my posting record is "fact"--there on any thread, for all to see.

You also post (and I will put boldface on one part, for emphasis, to help make a point):

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I qualified my statements with "My thoughts" and they are based on what "I have witnessed" which I admit freely is very limited.
I did not realize your experience is "very limited." That explains a lot, and I can understand better why much of this ordeal must be confusing....

LOL...on the GVRP play, I was s-o-o-ooooo green, I called the SEC myself, thinking that would ensure delivery of my shares...

Anyway, I digress... what I hope you will do is step back a bit and think of the, let's say, three most confusing things about this play... You post that, and we can begin a non-emotional, logical discussion...

Best,

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Holy crap Tex...that last post took up most of the page...LOL... [Wink]
I'm glad that Taxback goes to bed early...there'd be alot of stuff to read in the am...
Have a good night!

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lol, just keeping things in context...don't forget how many read "over our shoulders"...

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I've been away a while and will be out more than in but happened to check in tonight to see what is happening in general in the market. After reading the previous posts and attempting to be non-bias, I have to make a few observations here, if for no other reason than to take my mind off of others things for a brief period of time.

The thing that began to and still bothers me most about CSHD is the fact that the CEO(Rufus), has turned the investment/trade into a war of sorts. If you read the various boards there is talk of channel 1, channel 2, channel 3. i mean you can't even state that you read some information on HSM, Allstocks, IHUB, Rufus's ******** or the other ******** that was established for CSHD Longs when Rufus stated his board was closing. IMO, too many factions and too much talk of belivers and nonbelivers. I mean we are talking about a stock here and not religion. Therefore Tex's assessment of the terminology that Rufus has used and that has been adopted by many of his followers(belivers) is well taken. Tex I always appreciate your bringing things back to basics where they belong.

Taxback, I have and continue to respect what you post, however, the problem I see with what you are stating is that you are attempting to use common sense and logic when it comes to legal issues. Sadly, that is not how things work in our legal system. The system is set up so that procedure means more than substance. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying the Rufus has more substance than the SEC because nobody has seen anything to indicate that.

Think about it. Cases are thrown out on technicalities and innocent people do go to jail. The fact of the matter is that this is a civil proceeding and not a criminal proceeding and the burden of proof is much less. It is not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt it is guilty if the preponderance of evidence leans to one side or the other. In the case of CSHD, the SEC has brought the case and presented it's evidence. Maybe there is enough maybe there isn't but they need not prove anything if the defendant doesn't put up a defense.

Look at it this way, if a creditor sued me for a sum of money stating that I didn't pay according to the terms of the contract and I didn't respond to their charges, after the date that was set for my response I would be in default therfore, since I failed to answer I would lose the case and owe them the money even though I may have documentation to prove that I paid it.

OK, under that scenario I could go back to the judge and ask for the defualt to be set aside and allow me to present my evidence that I indeed did pay. Here's the kicker, the judge is under no mandate to open the defualt and allow my answer since I had ample time to answer but he could choose to reopen the case and allow me to respond.

Where does that leave the current situation with the SEC vs CSHD. First, the SEC did not have to present more evidence until CSHD/Rufus answered their claims. Therefore it is not surprising that they have been quiet since asking for and receiving an entry of default. Heck, all they had to do was sit back and wait for the time limit to run out and then ask the judge to apply monetary sanctions. There was no need for them to. I mean Rufus keeps talking about not wanting to show his hand so why should the SEC show theirs unless forced to.

Procedure is a part of law. Rufus's answer to the original charges, at this point in time, is not proper procedure. He should have requested that the default be set aside and allow him to answer. Once the judge ruled on that motion, then he could have entered an answer to the original charges. I'm no lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

Too many people are taking Rufus at face value and believing that he is right but he is not an attorney and IMO, no amount of internet research will prepare him to go up against an experienced securities attorney.

I happen to believe like TEX does that the true problem and potentially only shorter here was AJW, because of their toxic financing. The talk of individuals that post on message boards being shorters because they are not positive about the stock and post their reservations is not only ridiculous but desperate.

The Source has been very out spoken on this board and I have had my problems, not so much with what he is saying as with the method he delivers it. Yet, He has tried to provide people with a realistic scenario. I don't for one minute believe he shorted the stock and think that if it had been preented in a different manner it would have been received much differently.

In summation, remember the old adage, divide and conquer. We as shareholders should not be in one camp or the other but be united in an effort to seek the truth of what has happened to the money invested in this stock and be willing to look at the situation in an unbiased manner always seeking the truth. I for one, am not willing to anoit Rufus for sainthood nor vilify him as the devil. Sorry but since it seems the Status Quo is using religious metaphors I will. Taxback this message is not aimed completely at you but at anyone who chooses to join one camp or the other. We must keep in mind that we are speaking of a stock not a political nor religious crusade.

Oh, 10of13, sorry that this is probably taking up the majority of the page but it's more than likely my last post for the rest of the month because I will be otherwise occupied for sometime.

I wish all the very best of luck here no matter which side you are comming from. Peace, Health and good fortune to all.

Wally

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Wally I hope things get better for you soon!

Question for the board...in this "Court stuff"...I read the orignal filing from the SEC...what I do not recall reading is a "time frame" that there was to be "an answer"...in most filings is there not an "answer date"?

Would the original filing by the SEC having no date to answer be one of the "loop holes" here?

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Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CSHD:OTC
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Wow a guy goes to bed and the people walk around with puffed chests.

Tex 90% of your spin above is incorrect, and people are right it would be a lot of reading if I wished to spend the time to correct ALL your misinterpretations and out of context comments. Just for kicks I will point out your return comment on my "I don't share your emotion." comment. I was saying I do not know if your negative comments are led by emotion or agenda/motive but in either case I do not share them with you. Because I have none myself. but thanks for the unnecessary trading lesson though I am sure I could use it. CSHD could go to zero tomorrow and you will not see me shed a tear. I have said this a hundred times before but since you were not around for the festivities I will say it once more. I am here because I own what I consider a comfortable investment in CSHD's future, but I recognize the risk and let's just leave it at that. Additionally, you attempted to take my announced "limited experience" comment completely out of context. Congrats to you are some spin master. You would do very good on the political circuit. Go back reread the comment that is much more than the three words you decided to bold. I was making a point. From my perspective of this case which is nowhere near the perspective of an insider, my view is quite limited. Now if you could just answer the question that was posed rather than slick redirection. Your confidence level in the "next steps" suggests you have a more complete visual of the court proceedings. How close are you?

And before I ramble any more let me say that yes Walley I have a mutual respect for your posts but you both are off center about the "bar room" speak. The "Did I stutter..." comment I will say was directly inspired by a comedy on HBO I saw the night before. I think the movie title was "Major Pain"... it is a farce, but during the 10 minutes it was on, there were some pretty funny lines. That was one of them so please don't credit Mr. Harris with that one. As for any others that I seem to have adopted "because I am too close" HAHA!! That is funny, just because I choose to visit a stock thread that gets more than three posts an evening on CSHD don't hate me. I would be over here posting away if the thread wasn't so dead all the time. I am looking for tangible information on this company and if I personally have to muddle through hours of ridiculous useless posts on other threads to find that one lead for my next DD trail I will do it.

But as far as camps are concerned... I am in no camp unless it is the investing and having fun doing it camp. CSHD is an enigma, a special case, a drama stock, it is fun and sad at the same time. What I do not like is the exposed corruption that is very visible. People poke at Mr. Harris with a stick, and beg him for illegal insider information. When his lack of action and silence are not his fault. Crooks thieves, and money laundering mafia types are involved and people are bowing to them like they are King Tut... (literally) (pun intended)

I don't want to fight with you guys, but I snapped on Mr. Harris's board about a week ago with regards to the corruption. I am sick of it, and I sick of people ignoring it. The OTC is broken and US Markets are in trouble, and our regulating bodies are doing nothing about it. You want to see my emotion? There it is. It has nothing to do with this individual trade. It has everything to do with the outside forces that directly affect this market. (I copied this to Word to look at my spelling... it is exactly one page long.)

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Follows are three posts from the cshdlongs.********s thread...Two from yesterday on on from today....There is discussion over there about new filings being made by RPH....sounds like the filings may have been made today....so perhaps there will be new opportunity for DD to be commencing, predicated upon actual filings showing up on PACER, and there being new information in filings......
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Just wanted to pass on what may be relevant information to be aware of.......GLTA


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Yesterday at 3:06am, stockdiesel wrote:

Yesterday at 3:01am, Rufus Paul Harris wrote:

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And will receive 4 more today!!


I get the feeling the chit is about to hit the fan this week.

Go get em Mr. H


Yes Sir here it comes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Advanced Carpet Bombing as of 12:00 noon tomorrow!!
Last Edit: Yesterday at 3:13am by Rufus Paul Harris

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Re: Monday, May 14th
Reply #367 on Yesterday at 2:23pm
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Yesterday at 2:21pm, Shane wrote:

Yesterday at 11:16am, taxback04 wrote:
Just looked at Pacer (Nothing since Motion from SEC) it appears there is a new Submission dead line created by the Motion which is due 5/29/2007. Just FYI. It sounded this morning that Rufus was going to fire back quickly. Just pointing out the fact for all.


[color=navy]Thanx Tax!

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1 WITH 20 filed
2 with 250 so far almost done with


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Re: Tuesday, May 15th
Reply #686 on Today at 2:24pm

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Today at 1:46pm, taxback04 wrote:
Where did Griff go... he threw out some explosion in the East tease... RPH showed up and Griff took off.

What was this explosion you heard?


Sorry, folks or peeps, I'm trying to make a living outside of CSHD.
Had a few meeting and phone calls.
Yes, there was a blast and yes it was a very favorable blast.
The enemy is now on notice; THERE IS NO MORE FU*KING AROUND, WE ARE NOW ON THE OFFENSE, HERE IS WHAT WE WHAT, THERE WILL BE NO COMPROMISE, SEC YOU MADE A HUGE MISTAKE AND YOU WILL PAY, MM AND BROKERAGE HOUSES WE WILL OWN YOU, FEDERAL JUDGE YOU COST US MUCH, MUCH MONEY TIME TO PAY, RECOGNIZE MR. HARRIS AS RIGHTFUL CEO, OUR ASSETS ARE LEGIT and HERE IS THE PROOF, ALL THE CHARGES AGAINST THE COMPANY AND MR. HARRIS MUST BE DROPPED and HERE IS THE PROOF. PROOF, PROOF and MORE PROOF STRAIGHT FROM THE RPH LIBRARY OF DOCUMEMTATION, RECORD KEEPING, and THE MONEY TRAIL.

In other words the blast I heard was our ENEMIES HEARTS DROPPING DEEP INTO THEIR GUTS WITH A BIG BANG; now they know they grabbed "the wrong tiger by the tail"

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don't know whether it's true, but here's a report saying RPH got the motion to re-open...ie, set aside the default:

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=19665698

but the mis-spellings make me doubt it...

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PACER is updated

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05/15/2007 16 NOTICE of self representation by Rufus Paul Harris (vs) (Entered: 05/15/2007)
05/15/2007 17 MOTION to Set Aside Default by Rufus Paul Harris. (vs) (Entered: 05/15/2007)
05/15/2007 18 ANSWER to Complaint by Rufus Paul Harris.(vs) Please visit our website at http://www.gand.uscourts.gov to obtain

Pretrial Instructions. (Entered: 05/15/2007)

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This seems to be real, though--apparently RPH has entered a motion to set aside the the default:

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=19665819

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Way to use that Spellchecker, Rufus!
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the logical question, of course, is WHY NOW? Without debating the merits of the arguments in his motion...why wait till now to address these issues rather than simply answering within the proper time frame?

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quote:
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Way to use that Spellchecker, Rufus!

Actually most that I have seen so far could just be the PDF converter or OCR at the Courts Office. The most noticeable is JUDBEMENT FOR JUDGEMENT... That is a very typical OCR substitution. Wouldn't it just fry your shorts is the hard copy in the judge's hands doesn't have that mispelling. HAHA!!

GLTA I am going to go look at these filings. Got them all downloaded from pacer and waiting on the real big one. Rumor is it is 250 pages of something good.

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quote:
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the logical question, of course, is WHY NOW? Without debating the merits of the arguments in his motion...why wait till now to address these issues rather than simply answering within the proper time frame?

it`s all part of the RPH master plan!!! LOL!!! or maybe - better do SOMETHING! before I (RPH) go to jail!!
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quote:
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Way to use that Spellchecker, Rufus!

Actually most that I have seen so far could just be the PDF converter or OCR at the Courts Office. The most noticeable is JUDBEMENT FOR JUDGEMENT... That is a very typical OCR substitution. Wouldn't it just fry your shorts is the hard copy in the judge's hands doesn't have that mispelling. HAHA!!

GLTA I am going to go look at these filings. Got them all downloaded from pacer and waiting on the real big one. Rumor is it is 250 pages of something good.

doubt an OCR conversion would insert l/c i into AKA, or an E into JUDGMENT... am guessing nowadays these things are scanned, anyway...rendering it a digital image rather than text conversion...

supposedly, neither signed nor dated, either...

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Folks, this was all part of the master plan from the word "go". LOL hope something works out, never can tell.
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http://www.investorshub.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=19665789

Check out the 2nd to last page .......

He must be planning something huge in the future . He notes that a 8K was filed on Nov 14th , 2007 .

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On a serious note , atleast the filing looks like it was written with the help of someone with a little legal experience . I'll post up more after I go over it again .

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Ok , here's my take on it ..... I know you guys can't wait to hear from the know it all .

Pg 2 of 4 states that Rufus has not received any ill gotten gains and wants the default set aside . This is fine for himself personally but he's trying to tie himself in with the company and then seperate himself at the same time .

If the motion is granted , he got away without having to hire an attorney for the company because he's asking for the whole thing to be set aside not just his part . He's trying to paint the SEC responsible for the current situation .

This is not going to work , in my opinion . The SEC will move to strike this down because he's attempting to file this for the company and himself (notice the defendants listed). If he were to write up a motion with just his name listed and only asked for himself to be set aside out of default thats different . The company would still be in the crapper and he'd still have other issues on his hands but might skate from this issue but thats a huge might .

Nice try Rufus but its not going to fly ......

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