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Bob Frey
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Rage against off-shoring is off target
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/02/16/fortune.ff.offshoring.benefit/index.html

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One of the issues that is not well addressed in this article is that the PROFITS are not going to the MIDDLE MIDDLE class and lower. Somebody has to fill the low-paying jobs in OUR companies. The US economy grows through out-sourcing, the REGULAR people end up with less cash--peirod. Who is spending $6000 on a TV? Enough people to have them in Best Buy, but many, many people are not able to spend that much on a car. We are seeing jobs in CORPORATE america going to illegal aliens. This is the most recent 'modern' form of slavery. That illegals have no rights = slavery. The statement that "Illegals fill positions nobody else wants" doesn't hold water either. Why do i bring this up here and now? Because corporate America--(ME and US investors) earns this 'extra' outsourcing profit--and it isn't going back into JOBS that nobody wants. These jobs are 'not wanted' because they don't PAY well enough--period. Why don't they pay well enough? The competition of the FREE MARKET has been subverted by illegal hiring practices. This has been done to satisfy an unreasonable demand for PROFITS MARGINS to pay the bonuses of CEO's like GRASSO and company--not even the average shareholder. These jobs HAVE GOT to be done- period. So how does this get fixed?--Pay the FREE Market value to have the cleaning / vacuuming / taking out the trash done. START paying FREE MARKET to CEO's again--we once did. This is only going to be accomplished by shareholders--in the end--not regulators.
As an Artist by training and nature, I have a very highly technically demanding skill. I blow glassart. Not mugs, not beer bottles--but Art. This is a perfect example of a huge trade that disappeared from the United States in the last 100 years. I am not angry--its hard, sweaty, bloody, often frustrating work. I could do my Art thing and then ship my peices to China and they would make FACSIMILIE'S of them for 10% or even less of what i require just to get started on a design, I don't WANT to be an art dealer--I want to WORK with my hands and my mind together. Many people do--they are the ones that are being hurt by out-sourcing. They now have to compete against the rest of the world for their neighbor's business.
Am I mad? No, but I am willing to ASK the hard questions. If somebody is struggling to reach the American Dream and they are honest, they are often the easiest victims for dishonest people. Because dishonest people are by their very nature distrustful--whereas honest people TEND to be the opposite.
I can offer many exmples in specific why this off-shore movement is bad--and I know many thing ARE good about it. But think about this---my Mom and Dad had JOB SECURITY--they did not understand why their kids had to change jobs so often. They did not raise their kids to cope with the new age of job jumping. As one of the last baby boomers--1960 -1963 (depending on who is defining the boom)I have faced a demographic clog in the ladder of success--am i mad--no- i have found ways around it. But i see GRAD students and post-docs that can't get decent wages because they are waiting for OLD BOYS to retire---at 65--70 years of age. I am talking about a lot of stuffed, lazy shirts, and a lot of bright, young, eager people willing to work hard. These young people are also competing agsainst a LARGE proportion (50%) of legally imported (almost slave ) labor. The 'almost slavery' is that the Prof's are hiring overseas from CHEAP low quality universites, that in fact--only satisfy credential requirements--not education and training. These imports have VISAS and green cards.--Guess who holds the right of revocation of the visa and green card? The prof's expect these people to work 80+ hrs a week for 29k/yr-- they do and because they are rarely fully qualified they have to. Why would anyone in their right mind put up with this? It has as much to do with what they are running from as where they HOPE they are going. I am for globalization--but it is being done very hap-hazzardly and the children of America have been, and continue to be placed at great financial risk because of the greed and the poor planning.

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I recently watched Treasury Secretary Snow give testimony to a congressional committee. He flatly stated that if Americans want better financial standing (like he has) they need to get themselves better training and education. I would have liked to have the oppurtunity to point this out to him. I apologise for not providing links to back up my assertions. My data set is derived from Science magazine. This publication is one of the most highly regarded publications in the world. I have no right to reproduce the data displayed by this magazine and links are available only to subscribers.

In Europe it is common practice to force professors into retirement at specific ages. Retirement age depends on the policy of each country. It is a form of age discrimination and is rightly considered unethical by American standards. European professors are beginning to ‘retire’ into the American University system in significant numbers. This practice forces them to forfeit their retirement benefits in most European systems. They wish to continue to work and that is highly laudable. The European education system allows professors to have much more discretion in their dealings with their employees/students than the American system does. These European practices are almost feudal by American standards. We have experienced some serious culture clashes within the Ameican system due to the influx of Eurpean style professors. American students often refuse to behave in accordance with the expectations of a Professor trained in European style education systems.
Homegrown tenure candidates are being displaced by foreign professors. Tenure has been earned by most of these distinguished investigators and teachers prior their coming to our Universites. Most of our large Universities’ payrolls are funded through their own State Governments. Many of the States have been in financial trouble for the last two years. In Nebraska, we have witnessed the removal of tenured professors from the State payroll. I would like to add that the football program has enjoyed an increase in funding at the same time. Not really an important issue, but it does demonstrate a clear prioritization concern. I digress. The wave of experienced professors is good for business. They have established ties to funding vehicles. They offer experience to our system. They build their programs by recruiting a large proportion of their students and post-docs from their own countries of origin. These foreign students pay higher tuition fees than our children do. Is this good for the income of the University? When you start tracking the sources of the funds, some very disturbing facts appear. Much of the funding is directly from our US government. This happens by way of program granting and Specific Cooperative Agreements. Other funding is obtained from our tax dollars through incentives in place to recruit foreign students from other countries. Our tax dollars are paying for a significant dilution of the opportunities for OUR children. Increasing competition is usually good. In this case, I see a pattern of abuse.


Pakistan has sent many students into our University systems in the last thirty years. In some engineering departments they became a majority for a time. Nuclear engineering has been one of their target programs. Through our liberal global education policies, we have willingly created another nuclear power in the world at a time when proliferation appeared to be decreasing. Pakistan’s head of nuclear arms development recently admitted to supplying vital “secure” data to our sworn enemies. This declaration was made in a worlwide news release. The reason appears to be simple greed. The fact that the Pakistani president put this man on stage to admit to his “digressions”, and then immediately pardoned him, is a clear indication of how much respect we are being granted for our globalization policies. Pakistan is a declared ally of the U. S. I have serious doubts that they walk the walk.

There are no simple fixes. I am not xenophobic, and i am getting a headache from trying to use proper english so much.--LOL --i prefer to be a connecticut yankee than the Queens man--LOL


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I have some more globalisation problems to address---

My whole family had been ATT forever, until recently. I believe in using the products of the companies that you own. I am no longer in ATT long distance or worldnet as a customer and I no longer own att stocks—even if they are good buys. I received an error in my ATT long distance bill. It was complicated and I won’t waste your time splainin it. When I tried to rectify it, I failed, and it took 3 hours of phone calls. This was only 25$. It was a principle thing—LOL—After talking to several polite english speaking women with varying degrees of Indian (the continent) accents, I gave up. I am very persuasive and never lost my cool. I told them in no uncertain terms that I was a stockholder, and that I have been a customer of ATT forever. I told them they were losing me as a customer. They refused to drop the erroneous charge. I have sent checks totalling thousands of dollars over the years to ATT. It became apparent to me that these people were not ABLE to fix my billing error—even tho this was the complaint/billing dept. I dropped both attworldnet and att long-distance. Soon I got a phone call from a pleasant man with a southern accent. He wanted to know how to get my biz back to att. I told him it was impossible. I wasn’t going to waste three or four hours on their next mistake. I paid the fee and they just lost me as a customer for at least a year—if not forever. The complaint/billing dept was probly in India—they did not have the ability to fix my problem. THIS IS REAL BAD IN A SERVICE BIZ.
other companies will do the same thing--i know--but the fix is only a couple of clicks on the key board----


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