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fyi. mobileplanet.com is selling the VKB says due date is 2/9/04 not sure what this means but who knows maybe this will get me out of the red and into the green paid dearly as a newbie eheheheh what does not kill you only makes you stronger
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your list of other companies that can't file on time is not to the point--those companies are not in the same league as IBZT- i made that point earlier --600 million$ market cap is not rational this year for IBZT 2-3, 5 years, i wish them well----are retail stock buyers rational?--some are many aren't--i bet on people-- if you notice on my bet i didn't say IBZT can't break .30 i said specifically that i don't think it will be on or above on Dec 30--it may fly before that-- and i will swoop/fleece it and split/--NO LOL this company may end up on the NASD but they don't have the cards in their hand yet-XM has a their hardware in space --right? That's an impresssive feat--- this PDA thing is huge--i like e'em esp with the flash mem system we now have --they are a perfect replacement for a laptop--if you already have a powerful desktop--laptops do what they do and i don't care for them MY OWN personal tastes here.

Bart -- i mean you no harm--i am just trying to be realistic


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QUOTE}
As for bart being a paid pumper, thats about the most silly thing I have ever heard! A pumper would not argue with some of the most respected people on a board with arguments cause I said so and wana make a bet! Bart is him self pumped about this stock and so would anyone be who belives they have secured there retirement in a short period of time. {QUOTE}

Bart seems too unprofessional to be one-- but sometimes a comedian can sell a thing too--FOOLS think they secure their retirement overnight-------


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Ok enough of all that stuff back to buisness-- Glassman what do you expect to see on monday. I dont care what its attributed to be it mms or pumpers or other wise, makes me no diffrence! we are expevcting a report on the keyboards being sold on monday. If all is well what would you expect this thing to spike up to. before the probable dip back to sustanible numbers?
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Bart,
I think everyone is tired of the pom poms and tights...and I for one am Very Sick of the EAT MONSTERS EAT!
I own IBZT and want to see it explode,,but enough is enough.
And I am a patient man.
No one really cares about when you bought and when you sold.
We are here for facts.
Roger

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My concerns center around the logisitics of getting a new produt that is TROUBLE free out to the market place--GM and FORD both struggle with this and they have been long and strong.This is a neat toy--i want one and will get one as soon as i can--then i will decide for myself-
most startup businesses fail for a million reasons-- this one may have been around for a while as a biz but the technology is real fresh and if it goes big-- HP or someone like that will buy in--IN MY OPINION___


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Glassman do your DD......... PGHI/GZFX with a $600 million cap by the end of the year? I would say your GP on a product service company is off the rocker so to speak. GP is figured after expenses and market cap is figured on GP. So I will give them the a shot at this. Every customer they have takes the 39.95 plan starting 1 Feb 04. $439.00 per customer per year. 1.4 million customers will support a NP of 600 million. We will assume each and every customer will want 3 different dvd/Games than any one else, so 1.4 million X 3 we get 4.2 million titles at the bargain price of $12 a pop leaves a cost of 50.4 million. Oh wait what if 30% of the customers actually want games released this decade? Ok so 70% of the customers 840,000 X let us say 6 new games a year 5.04 Million games x $12 = 61 million
So now we are up to $110 Million in cost, Add another $100 Million in mail, facilities, salary, etc... And then that pesky advertising thing to make the whole thing work, another $50 million easy. $260 Million and I am way light on the required inventory to keep people happy. $600 million market this year would be pure fluff, and yes I do own the stock. Product service companies cost a fortune to run, just ask Blockbuster. Moving on to SONS the cost of manufacturing and advertising to compete against giants like Cisco,,,, enough said. I don't just pull things out of my magic bag, I actually run the numbers through realistic business models. IBZT is not in great shape in my opinion unless they have a dilution revitalization plan. I feel with the acquiring of to companies with very good products, for stock only, shows that those acquired companies know something we do not. In my book that is the gamble, look deep for answers, not in the news. Media is a manipulation tool and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, invest based on media. Anyone can manipulate the media. Also take your profits as it climbs, I have made over $300,000 on IBZT and $200,000 on PGHI and yes I am back in both of them.

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Oilman-- i have to admit i'm a little confused about yor post--I have never bashed either stock-- i ask questions to lead some of the other investors to the light--
I feel like you are trying to throw mud in the water here-- IBZT is possible to go to 10.00$ a share tommorrow- any penny is-all it takes is the MM's to work it hard and RISK a considerable sum of money--much more than the #'s you are throwing around like candy to kids at a parade--
i know a little about what it takes to start a biz--
PGHI was not even part of this discussion--and i have not done much DD on them because i am not impressed with the concept in general--i saw the little envelelopes at BEST BUY--not PGHI--at he counter --what 2 years ago--to sign up for mailing DVD rental systems--it didn't even get me to look twice--i don't care about PGHI as a continuing concern and you know as well as i that they raised a lot of capital on ALLSTOCKS to get the biz going --they didn't get mine -- i NEVER buy a share i can't sell in 5 minutes if i have to--thats a burning match your holding there cowboy--LOL --i hope for all of our sake -they are successfull- i will add to this pose- it gets verbose

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by OilMan:
[B]Glassman do your DD......... PGHI/GZFX with a $600 million cap by the end of the year? I would say your GP on a product service company is off the rocker so to speak. GP is figured after expenses and market cap is figured on GP. {QUOTE}

GP(?)--has nothing to do with MARKET CAP-this refers to the SIZE of a company--simple-- to calculate this you simply multiply the number of shares OUTSTANDING by the price--it change every day-LOL the MARKET CAP is simply what the public believes the company is worth-

i define using reference material--THE MCGRAW HILL INVESTORS DESK REFERENCE_-if you don't have it you are either playing casino here or you have an MBA from Harvard and i doubt we have too many of those-LOL

remember--starlings can't count

tune back in for a fable about bears and starlings--LOL


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OK i posted this story a while back under the micro board-- i am a fan of Aesop--he poked fun at people in a constructive way and had to wade through some pretty turbulent waters to do it-
I am changing the dog--his name was Eygore- to a bear of the same name --why not-- it fits good-- LOL-- Eygore was a magnificent Husky with one blue eye and one brwn eye--make that two- BIG LOL-------he was pure bred but he was a little mental probly from living in the wrong climate--got his head baked iduno--

Eygore the bear sits at the water bowl for a couple hours still as a statue. Pretty soon a flock of starlings flys by and it's a hot day. They see the water and they don't see eygore cuz he is still as a statue not even blinking. So the starlings- which by the way are much like flying rats-- they are very sociable and practice many of the same disgraceful behaviours we humans do--including theft- cuckoldry and murder--any way the funny thing about birds is they are not stupid --bird brain is a silly monicker cuz they just aren't dumb- we have to pay to fly-LOL--they just jump--any way this counting thing is important--many birds can count-- geese for instance and also African Grey Parrots--it is still being scientifically established but i have lived with these animals and i know-----now crows can't count either-- how do i know this--my grandad used to take us all crow hunting-- we kids didn't get to hunt but about 8 of us would go into the corn feild --in as a group then soon-- out as a group--five of us would leave--here's why it works- the crows know the difference between some and one but not two or three or four--simple ---OK back to Eygore-he is sitting there and these starlings are now sitting under his feet just a couple of inches away and splashing in the water and havin a hotub party--All of a sudden Eygore snatches one into his mouth and swallows it--- so fast you have to be looking right at him to see it- I was --i could see him do it-- but the starlings?-hhmm he was waiting till all of them were comfortable and picking at each other and fluffing their feathers preening and just plain partying--they would get all flustered for a second cuz they new something had happened i mean they are not stupid --but ina few seconds they settle back down to partying and forget about the fears-- all of a sudden eygore does it again--LOL the same thing happens over and over agian until there is only three birds left-- why three you ask? welll
if there are three --each of them sees two-- and on the next bird they realise that some became ONE.................


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[QUOTE}.. At any rate the restructuring will take a little time and if completed by October then .30 I would say is by far not out of
the question. Everyone is looking at the overall O/S shares at 2.1-2.3 billion. O/S shares do tell a lot but it all depends on how those shares are defined. I am in the process of back tracking exactly what all the terms are on the stock, which is quite a task. As I do this I am including my sources so everyone else can take a look at how I got the numbers instead of "Cause I said So!!" {QUOTE}
ok oilman--snake?-
But it all depends on how those shares are defined? LOLOLOLOOLOOLOOLOOLOOLOOLOLOOLOOL

starling cant countLOLOLOLLLLO


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Hey all, I'm a new poster, but have read almost every thread irt "IBZT" (very amusing I must say!) Anyway, I bought a little stock in here also, b/c this is a product I myself will buy.
One thing though, I called customer service at YourMobiledesk.com, and asked why one website says "shipping 2/09/04", and another says "shipping 3/15/04". Her answer was that Ibiz is backlogged, so they set the date back to 3/15 only to be safe. But she also said that YourMobiledesk will most likely start receiving the product much sooner, maybe in the next week or two. She was sincere enough, but I also have to wonder why I have read several other legitimate articles that has the CEO saying they will begin shipping in November, end of December, end of January, mid February, and now mid March! I think this product has tons of potential, but from what I have read, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another delay. However...I am still as optimistic as Bart, Neo, and everyone else who hopes we make a ton of loot!!!

Respect to all!

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Someone using a poppy related name, wrote:

"...CEO saying they will begin shipping in November, end of December, end of January, mid February, and now mid March!"

Where did you develop this information? Not
questioning this at all. Is this a series
of company sponsored news? I would like to
review this, then draw some conclusions.

If your information is legit, your statements
combined with a late 10Q filing, causes me
to raise a suspicious Vulcan eyebrow.


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Poppy related!! lol Damn, after reading these threads I should have known to "cite my references". I have tried to research so much I will have to search my history for a good while, but rest assured I will be back with the the goods!
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I should elaborate a bit more.

Somewhere I read IBZT is having problems
developing their focus lens, which is where
data would travel in and out for the system.

With that assumed true, and these constant
delays in shipment, this suggests to me
their keyboard is not yet ready for market
and might not ever be ready for market.

I have noted IBZT claims a tremendous amount
of hard sales already but they refuse to
discuss actual sales numbers. Knowing this
and now delays in product shipment, a late
SEC 10Q filing, how is it they are making
sales of a product not yet ready for market?

Perhaps what I read is not quite right?

This is enough to cause even a human to
raise a suspicious eyebrow.

Purl Gurl


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HI!

Just to let you all know - Ibiz was featured on Tech TV's "Fresh-Gear" segment TWICE this weekend, is featured in the Science & Technology section of Business Week (Feb 9th ed. - pg. 87) was in IBD twice this week, and mentioned again in tonight's CEOcast newsletter. We KNOW we've got ourselves a winner.

Tonight's CEOcast:
iBIZ Technology Corp. (OTCBB: IBZT), a leading manufacturer and distributor of accessories for personal digital assistants and hand-held devices, continues to generate growing interest for its Virtual Keyboard for handheld computing devices. The Keyboard projects the image of a full-size keyboard onto a flat surface, making it easy to input text without a physical keyboard. The company will exhibit at CeBIT, a German convention. The convention is the German equivalent of the consumer electronics show in Las Vegas, where the company generated substantial interest in the Keyboard last month. iBIZ will also showcase its FMpocketRADIO, the industry's first FM Radio for the PDA Market. The stock ended the week at $0.048.

Steve


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More than a decade back, here in Riverside,
in a rural area, there was a problem with
Opium poppys growing in the wild. Problem
was traced to poppy seeds on bread which
had not been properly sterilized.

People tossed out bread for birds, probably
Glassman's birds, those birds ate the poppy
seeds along with the bread. Those seeds passed
through the birds, with addition of organic
fertilizer, and grew like crazy.

"Aren't they beautiful?" the girl asked, as she breathed in the spicy scent of the bright flowers.

"I suppose so," answered the Scarecrow. "When I have brains, I shall probably like them better."

"If I only had a heart, I should love them," added the Tin Woodman.

"I always did like flowers," said the Lion. "They of seem so helpless and frail. But there are none in the forest so bright as these."


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Wow, Purl, you are an interesting person to say the least! I have only found the recent articles that say the VKB will ship in December, and be in "full swing" by end of January. Those articles are on Yahoo!, and other main sites. I did find this new photo I haven't seen. Don't know if you guys have seen it, but it is a good view of this cool toy! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/040110/ids_photos_ts/r3315988972.jpg&e=8

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BTW, what is the deal with that photo saying it is developed by VKB inc. Is that a misprint or what?

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Opiate wrote, in part:

"...asked why one website says shipping
2/09/04, and another says shipping 3/15/04."

What are your URL addresses for those sites?


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www.yourmobiledesk.com says "3/15/04" and I gotta find the other.

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Appears the IBZT pumpers have successfully
moved this sarcastic thread into an actual
pump thread for IBZT. How ironic.

January 14,

"...the first hour sales were impressive and
appear to be a solid barometer of this
product's ongoing success."

Is there a single person who has verified
this claim by IBZT?

I have asked IBZT a number of times and
have yet to receive a response.


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NEO
Assumed I would not have to explain Enterprise Value VS Market Cap. Market Cap should always be inline with Enterprise Evaluation. Enterprise Evaluation is always figured on GP. And having said that you can find at least 7 ways that I know of to figure Enterprise Evaluation. Those formulas range from 3-5 years. Guess I was not clear on the relation Market Cap should have with GP.

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Verified Opiate.

Possibly these shipment date differences
are a result of "first come, first serve."

I did discover IBZT claims this device
to be about the size of a BIC lighter,
although the picture shows it to be
very large. I also discovered, hidden
in the fine print, a connection cable
is required adding to luggage. Battery
life is stated at three to four hours
indicating true battery life is one
to two hours. This also indicates more
luggage is needed; a battery charger
and a requirement of a power outlet.

Perhaps there will be fine print in their
late 10Q, if they elect to file.


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Has anyone inquired about the projection angle?

A BIC lighter stands roughly two inches tall.
This would place the projection lens about
one point five inches off a desktop.

Basic geometry indicates this "keyboard"
will be spatially highly distorted along
the lower keys and spacebar region.

If not, this keyboard is significantly
smaller than IBZT presents it to be.

What are the chances of knocking over the
projector upon reaching for numerical keys?

Is a requirement the projector is to be
elevated above the projecion surface?

Anyone check into those items?

I have already commented this keyboard
will not be popular with women for very
obvious reasons, well, obvious to women.


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I personnally would not plunk down $99 for what appears to be a fascinating novelty.My computer keyboard space is already cluttered and not likely to remain clear enough for a projected keyboard. Also, the advertised battery life is three hours, which means I'd have to also buy an ac adapter. Sure, they'll sell some to the curious, at first...
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Welcome to the board opiate-- interesting arrival time --i was driving to the airportwhile you posted--i see by the time-- and since we were having whiteout conditions i popped the Stones Sticky Fingers into the CD player to get the mood with Moonlight Mile --about the wind blowing and having a head fullo snow- LOL--the two songs before that --Sister Morphine and Dead Flowers HMMMmmm maybe i need to take a break from the board for a while---NAAAAAAHHHHHH
but i am going to get to bed a little earlier than usual tonight-- i see you guys and gals tomorrow

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Thanks G-Man! Purl I remembered where I saw the "ship 2/09/04". It's at Mobile Planet. Check it out.
http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?mscssid=RTBR3JHXXE9K9MX1RLWLB8CPD7GFCUH9&dept_id=3715&pf_id=MP250277&listing=1

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In business, new systems, products and ideas require intensive planning, with very flexible changes to be made everyday to meet the customers' needs during a rollout.

I was humbled to serve on a team to rollout a company wide claims handling system. The procedures, workflow, analysis and implementation efforts were intensive and yes, chnaging each day. Target dates were sometimes changed, but for good reason. That was to provide employees and customers with the best and most user friendly system possible.

The result here is known: Demand is high. US and Overseas retailers have been and will be in contact with IBIZ to set up sales and distribution agreements. Product will be delievered. How they handle the rollout distribution (Large quanities to everyone vs certain quantities over time to some or all retailers vs another rollout stradegy) matters not. The task is very involved here, but will be a noble one. The market will like the news. Growth in the product line is assured (cell technology and Blue Dock).
The market will respond well at this and every step.
Increased market demand in the stock and any share buybacks they initial will quiet any concerns about the O/S.

Been a nice weekend here, so til tomorrow.
Be well. Bo


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Bo--i have asked this questions several time----- do you know the specifics of the rights agreement on the laser keyboard technology--i looked it up in the patent office --IBZT IS NOT the patent holder as is made clear in PR---does IBZT have worlwide right--North American-- or US? my DD indicates the patent is held by Israeli's
I have stated before that if they have S Korean rights( for instance) we are really looking at THE MONSTRER as Bart is so fond of saying.......

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Hi Glass,

I hope this helps some:

DOCUMENT>
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<FILENAME>ibizinc10sb110503woex.txt
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U. S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549


FORM 10-SB


GENERAL FORM FOR REGISTRATION OF SECURITIES OF SMALL BUSINESS ISSUERS
UNDER SECTION 12(B) OR (G) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934.


IBIZ, INC.
(Name of Small Business Issuer in its charter)

Nevada 72-1530833
(State or other jurisdiction of (I.R.S. Employer
incorporation or organization) Identification No.)


2238 West Lone Cactus, Phoenix, Arizona 85027
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip Code)

Issuer's telephone number: (623) 492-9200


Securities to be registered pursuant to Section 12(b) of the Act:

Title of each class Name of each exchange on which
to be so registered each class is to be registered

None
None


Securities to be registered pursuant to Section 12(g) of the Act:

Common Stock
(Title of Class)

None
(Title of Class)

PART I.

ITEM 1. DESCRIPTION OF BUSINESS.

Business Development.

IBIZ, Inc., a Nevada corporation ("Company"), was incorporated
on November 1, 2001. IBIZ Technology Corp. ("IBIZ"), the parent
company of the Company, proposes to issue not sooner than the
effective date of this registration statement, without consideration
non-restricted shares of common stock in the Company pro rata to all
shareholders of IBIZ as of September 25, 2003 (the directors,
officers, and 10% or greater shareholders ("affiliates") will received
restricted shares in the Company) at the ratio of one share of the
Company for each 500 shares of IBIZ common stock held as of that date.

Business of the Company.

The Company designs, manufactures (through subcontractors), and
distributes its existing and assigned products and licenses and a new
line of accessories for the PDA and handheld computer market. These
products will be distributed through large retail chain stores and e-
commerce sites throughout the United States by IBIZ and worldwide by
the Company.

After completion of the spin-off as outlined previously, the
Company intends to acquire the Input Device Activities of
Endeavour Capital AG in return of shares in the company; this
transaction does not, under Nevada law, require the consent of
shareholders. This will be accomplished by the issuance by the
Company of 11,200,000 shares of common stock to Endeavour Capital AG,
in exchange of 100% of the input device license agreements currently
owned by Endeavour.

The Company will hold products and licenses for the spin-off
operation and introduce to the Programmable Digital Assistant ("PDA")
market the virtual laser light keyboard "Light Key". The Light Key is
capable of projecting a full size laser keyboard on any flat surface,
providing full keyboard capabilities to the PDA and hand held user in
any location.

As a complimentary input device Endeavour Capital will introduce
its virtual pen, the E-Pen, capable of storing and sending any hand
writing or written-on-paper image to a PDA, hand held or any computer,
as a very high resolution image.

The license of Light Key will provide the Company the worldwide
rights to manufacture and market a virtual keyboard developed by
Endeavour based on licensed technology by VKB Inc. by transferring of
the license, and the developed product from Endeavour. The Light Key
will be an accessory product to appliances such as PDA's, hand-held,
cell-phones, laptops, etc and will provide the Company a unique
product for world-wide distribution. This license is for an
indefinite period and enables the Company to develop its own
intellectual properties in design and engineering for its exclusive
products without the need to invest massive capital for "core
technology" development. Through Edeavour, the Company plans to
enhance the Light-Key product line by adding complimentary
technologies, and product enhancement.

The license of E-Pen will provide the Company an exclusive
worldwide rights to manufacture and market an electronic pen developed
by In Motion E-Pen Inc. as an accessory to appliances such as PDA's,
hand-held, cell-phones, laptops, etc. This license is for an
indefinite period and enables the Company to develop its own
intellectual properties in design and engineering including the core
technology. Endeavour Capital currently operates In Motion E-Pen Inc.
under a special operating agreement.
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Just to further clarify...
The company mentioned in the SEC filing, actually called VKB, holds the US Patent to this technology. IBIZ holds the exclusive licence to sell the VKB worldwide. Synosphere, a subsidiary of IBIZ is securing patents for the Bluedock technology. Bo

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