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PGHI is simply a great stock story.

It could be a winner. The best this stock can obtain is a trading price of $.20 this year. So don't go into debt if you have a few shares.

There is a guy now called Mr. T, Tommyla, and Tommyisanasshole on raging bull. What a piece of work he is. The poor guy has done more harm than good. Fortunately the stock has held up, given all of his hype he employs in his posting as to having inside information. It is apparent that he never heard of Enron,..........,...........

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This is a great fantasy stock finaced by off balance sheet debt convertible into convertible debentures convertible into shares that get sold to the foolish public. Our financial freedoms has deteriorated into a media circus of crap posting paid for by the company operators. Humans are unable to resist material corruption, everyone has a price beyond which their morality fails. A company spokesman said it right when he said, "it doesn't matter how much money we take from the fool investors, it does not matter that the people believe our fake news, it's what actually occurs that matters. We are moving investors money into our personal accounts. And we thank them for it." -- Once you know how the game is playd, there is money to be made for those in the know. The game is simply to take money from many and distribute it to a few via the so called democratic process. The truth is the people in the banking and wall street oligarchy are bubbling our society into complete fiat paper bankruptcy while they cheaply transfer their fiat into precious metals. Read patriot act I,II,III. We are now doing what Hitler did, create inflation in order to devalue the burden of outstanding debt. This company's debt is growing by leaps and bounds via an ever growing amount of debentures and shares the public holds. All this debt creation is nothing more then a front to scam the public so a few can buy real constitutional money. This company already has over 2 billion shares outstanding. It has long lost control of its float. What they are doing is widespread among penny land. It does have a good story. The story has to be good to run a scam like this. A bad story would not be a good scam.
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PGHI: Time to buy NOW!!!!! READ THIS.

January 31, 2004,
New Entry In Online Vid Race

By JILL KIPNIS

There's a new kid on the block in the online video rental world.

Gameznflix.com, owned by Franklin, Ky.-based holding company Point Group Holdings Inc. (PGHI), is launching next month with an offering of DVDs and videogames.

The service's business model is similar to that of Netflix, the leading online rental company based in Los Gatos, Calif. Users will pay a monthly subscription fee that enables them to receive DVDs or games through the mail. After a subscriber returns a title in an envelope with prepaid postage provided by gameznflix.com, another title from the rental selection list they have created is sent.

"This is a long-term project that will offer an alternative to Netflix," says John Fleming, CEO/president of PGHI. "We will crawl, then we will walk and then we will see about running into the future."

Netflix ended 2003 with about 1.5 million subscribers, a 74% increase over 2002.

Fleming says that the availability of videogames will differentiate gameznflix.com from such competitors as Netflix and walmart.com, which only offer DVDs.

A Netflix representative could not be reached for comment by press time.

PGHI has already established an online videogame rental service through its 18-month-old Web site veegeez.com, which will be incorporated into gameznflix.com next month. Fleming would not disclose how many subscribers use veegeez.com.

It currently distributes veegeez.com orders through centers in San Diego and Franklin. Fleming says two more distribution centers will open soon.

At launch, gameznflix.com will offer about 50 top DVDs and a full stock of videogames. According to Fleming, 99% of published videogames, including such older titles as "Pong," will be available for rent.

"It costs $50 to buy a game. The gamer beats the game or likes it or dislikes it and is over it in about two weeks and three days," Fleming says. "Now, they can rent it for $20 a month."

Fleming would not disclose what the monthly subscription fee for gameznflix.com will be, though its veegeez.com offers plans that range from $19.95 to $39.95. For example, the $19.95 plan allows users to have two titles rented at a time, while a $29.95 plan allows four rentals at a time.

PGHI has signed a joint venture deal with Ann Arbor, Mich.-based Legend Mobile to develop a marketing campaign for gameznflix.com's launch. Legend Mobile spearheads campaigns involving celebrities, such as the recent Visa debit card promotion with Hilary Duff (Billboard Bulletin, Oct. 25, 2003).

Rental data from online services are not reflected in Billboard's rental charts.


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New Entry in Online Vid Race http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040124/film_nm/film_online_dc_1
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Got a Penny....

What do you base this .20 in a year as the best PGHI can do.

Post some facts....most everyone else has. If your going to say this stock can do no better then .20 or if you say its going to hit a dollar...back it up with something

I wait patiently for your answer...

Please don't say its because they have 2 billion outstanding shares!

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Originally posted by Got a Penny:
PGHI is simply a great stock story.

It could be a winner. The best this stock can obtain is a trading price of $.20 this year. So don't go into debt if you have a few shares.

There is a guy now called Mr. T, Tommyla, and Tommyisanasshole on raging bull. What a piece of work he is. The poor guy has done more harm than good. Fortunately the stock has held up, given all of his hype he employs in his posting as to having inside information. It is apparent that he never heard of Enron,..........,...........


[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 25, 2004).]


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what you've described is what the federal reserve system and fractional banking systems have been doing for almost 100 years in this country. if you think you can start a crusade against it fine, but this board is about finding opportunities,either long term or short term, to make some money. most people are going to lose their money. get over it. it's called "risk"
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quote:
Originally posted by duke:
what you've described is what the federal reserve system and fractional banking systems have been doing for almost 100 years in this country. if you think you can start a crusade against it fine, but this board is about finding opportunities,either long term or short term, to make some money. most people are going to lose their money. get over it. it's called "risk"

This board should be about finding opportunities to win not lose. The Federal Reserve is the "State" of the United States. Under the doctrine of Parens Patriael, Government as parent, all assets of the American people, their person, and of our country itself are held by the Depository Trust Corporation, secured by UCC Commercial Liens, which are monetized as "debt money" by the privately owned Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve has a Situation Z-1 report. There is some really good information here on off balance sheet debt creation and the % of ownership the FED owns in the stock market in short position. Under Greenspan the FED is, has been buying into the stock market at an ever increasing rate. They now own the largest short position ever recorded. So what is the FED doing? Is it increasing their short position to move the stock market up, or is it getting situated to bring about a crash or is it doing it to have the ability to control. The off balance sheet debt backed by promissory notes that are convertible into convertible debentures are accouted for as derivative trades. It is these derivative trades that create reportable earnings for shareholders and at the same time are really used as debt creation.


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Quite the oxymoron for a person named Jesus
to be promoting taking advantage of others.

In time, you will be able to discuss all of
this, and your life, with Jesus.

Too bad, so sad, yes?

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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Got a Penny....

What do you base this .20 in a year as the best PGHI can do.

Post some facts....most everyone else has. If your going to say this stock can do no better then .20 or if you say its going to hit a dollar...back it up with something

I wait patiently for your answer...

Please don't say its because they have 2 billion outstanding shares!

[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 25, 2004).]


BetNitAll

The $.20 cents scenario is an astute extrapolation that I have developed and has been support by pass pro forma price extrapolations that I have predicted on various other penny stocks.

The formula is based on an analysis of competitors financial trending and a comparative projection of the stock in question.

Given Netflix financial trending, I have employed their churn factor to develope a correlation to the current churn for PGHI.
This is the one primary factor that was used to extrapolate the projected share price.

The key to this whole scenario is the gross margin level that can be sustained by PGHI.
If we can roll with Netflix at the same level, then the stock should carry a higher future valuation.

But, my model takes into account the overall mean which is 29%.

Hope this helps.

GAP

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quote:
Originally posted by Got a Penny:
PGHI is simply a great stock story.

It could be a winner. The best this stock can obtain is a trading price of $.20 this year. So don't go into debt if you have a few shares.

There is a guy now called Mr. T, Tommyla, and Tommyisanasshole on raging bull. What a piece of work he is. The poor guy has done more harm than good. Fortunately the stock has held up, given all of his hype he employs in his posting as to having inside information. It is apparent that he never heard of Enron,..........,...........


Mr. T, it must be great to be able to pat "yourself" on the back. You do it so well and so often.

If this stock was so great do you think the price would still be at these levels.

Oh, then you say it is undiscovered. Give me a break.

Water seeks it's own level. This stock as best is a quarter.

Yes I own it and will sell in the .15 to .20 share range.
Be truthful with yourself. The market knows more then you and would have greater insight then you. If you can not agree with that statement, you are more bull headed then I thought.

Please prove me wrong quickly so I can buy more shares.
Yes this stock may run up this coming week, the hypers have gotten it into the public's eyes. The post per day has increased significantly and that alone warrants caution and tells most investors to take a position and be careful not to get greedy.

Wake up, Mr. T, there are smarter investors then you and me out there; with more sophisticated financial tools, trust me.

But, even I know that anything can happen in this arena.
This stock with the right momentum could hit $20.00 a share, the market makers are capable of anything. After all this is America, the sky is the limit.

But after this one, there will be another one. Just read the message boards on stocks. It is very easy to find a plethora member stock forums, where investors will swear that they have the next " Microsoft, Netflix, G.E."

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quote:
Originally posted by chrisNdee:
This board should be about finding opportunities to win not lose. The Federal Reserve is the "State" of the United States. Under the doctrine of Parens Patriael, Government as parent, all assets of the American people, their person, and of our country itself are held by the Depository Trust Corporation, secured by UCC Commercial Liens, which are monetized as "debt money" by the privately owned Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve has a Situation Z-1 report. There is some really good information here on off balance sheet debt creation and the % of ownership the FED owns in the stock market in short position. Under Greenspan the FED is, has been buying into the stock market at an ever increasing rate. They now own the largest short position ever recorded. So what is the FED doing? Is it increasing their short position to move the stock market up, or is it getting situated to bring about a crash or is it doing it to have the ability to control. The off balance sheet debt backed by promissory notes that are convertible into convertible debentures are accouted for as derivative trades. It is these derivative trades that create reportable earnings for shareholders and at the same time are really used as debt creation.

i'm sure all you say is true. i think you like to use 10 words when 3 would suffice. all you need to say is the fed makes money out of thin air.i do not and could not pretend to be as articulate as you. most of my knowledge of the fed is a book i read "the creature from jekyll island" by g. edward griffin. i'm sure there are differing opinions.


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quote:
Originally posted by Got a Penny:
PGHI is simply a great stock story.

It could be a winner. The best this stock can obtain is a trading price of $.20 this year. So don't go into debt if you have a few shares.

There is a guy now called Mr. T, Tommyla, and Tommyisanasshole on raging bull. What a piece of work he is. The poor guy has done more harm than good. Fortunately the stock has held up, given all of his hype he employs in his posting as to having inside information. It is apparent that he never heard of Enron,..........,...........


WOW..

I NEED TO VISIT THE BIGS MORE OFTEN. I DID NOT REALIZE THIS THREAD WAS UP HERE RE: PGHI. I JUST LAMBLASTED THE WHOLE PGHI BOARD. I LOST IT. MY PROFESSIONAL MANNER DEFINITLY LACKING. ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES JUST STARTED AND I MISSED THE 1ST AND 2ND MEETINGS. LOL MY SON DID SOME REASEARCH ON THE PRIVATE E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT TO ME ON REQUEST REGARDING THE STOCK. I SENT ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE SEC COMPLAINT DEPT. 3 PEOPLE HAD 4,5 AND 6 POSTING NAMES.

I OWN THIS STOCK. I AQUIRED 70,000 FREE SHARES BY BUYING AND SELLING. I HOPE IT DOES WELL. BUT I ALSO WILL NOT TOLERATE FRAUD. I AM GLAD THERE ARE OTHERS WHO AGREE.

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Diana... You were great! .. You Know.... Hell hath no fury.... well... you know the rest.. LOL I know how you were feeling, i almost sold my position today. Glad i didnt. Things will look up now. Take care.. Ken
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I think mach and some of his buds accountable for alot of the hype.
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Diana, I missed your original unedited version of the post, but I saw the later version late last night. I think the message still comes through! LOL. I know you (and JenLennon) said what a lot of people were thinking.

I also own shares in PGHI (which unfortunately are not in a free share position) and want to see the company grow of its own accord. I've done a ton of DD on my own and I think it has great potential. Time will tell.

Your mention that some people have 4, 5, or 6 posting names on Allstocks? That needs to be brought to the attention of the webmaster here. That is totally unacceptable.

PSU

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
WOW..

I NEED TO VISIT THE BIGS MORE OFTEN. I DID NOT REALIZE THIS THREAD WAS UP HERE RE: PGHI. I JUST LAMBLASTED THE WHOLE PGHI BOARD. I LOST IT. MY PROFESSIONAL MANNER DEFINITLY LACKING. ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES JUST STARTED AND I MISSED THE 1ST AND 2ND MEETINGS. LOL MY SON DID SOME REASEARCH ON THE PRIVATE E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT TO ME ON REQUEST REGARDING THE STOCK. I SENT ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE SEC COMPLAINT DEPT. 3 PEOPLE HAD 4,5 AND 6 POSTING NAMES.

I OWN THIS STOCK. I AQUIRED 70,000 FREE SHARES BY BUYING AND SELLING. I HOPE IT DOES WELL. BUT I ALSO WILL NOT TOLERATE FRAUD. I AM GLAD THERE ARE OTHERS WHO AGREE.



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There are folks who may have 2 or more posting names if they have 2 or more email address. We would be interested in catching anyone with multiple names who is posting. We can see the ip of posters which would tell us in most cases. If you think someone has multiple names contact the webmaster with the time , names of users and threads they are posting to.

Thank you for using Allstocks.com.


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This seems to be an appropriate place to point out one fundamental rule of the markets that I picked up from a very astute TECHNICAL TRADER of great wisdom--
The market will always do the most damage to the most people possible. PERIOD
what does this mean to the the retail buyers like me?
1)Don't fall in lust with a stock --TRADE and get get out.Momentum is your friend.
2)INVESTMENTS need to be CONTRARIAN. if you love a stock buy it and nurture it when no-one will--it will love you back.


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quote:
Originally posted by millek:
Diana... You were great! .. You Know.... Hell hath no fury.... well... you know the rest.. LOL I know how you were feeling, i almost sold my position today. Glad i didnt. Things will look up now. Take care.. Ken

I am glad you did not sell your position. Certainly not on my ramblings (as purl so affectionatly calls my outbreaks) Others have called it borderline personality disorder!!! I call it a good dose of REALITY.

Those who have several names will be reported accordingly. I BELIEVE WE WILL SEE SOME POSTERS DISAPPEAR IN SHORT ORDER AFTER READING MY POST.

I also see potential in PGHI. I am a trend and day trader--longs in pennies is not my specialty. My short term expectations of PGHI is and has always been .10 cents. IMHO this short term expectation should have been met by this time. We had a little set back but I am willing to extend my usual 30 day trading period to 45 days.

THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE MATTER. GOOD LUCK TRADING TO ALL.

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