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CashCowMoo
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Common sense immigration law that we can not seem to understand in this country.


Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.

(Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.”

(Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned.

(Article 116)
Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment.

(Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished.

(Article 117)
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (

Article 118)
Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

“A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.”

(Article 123)
Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned.

(Article 125)
Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported.

(Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison.

(Article 127)
Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined.

(Article 132)
All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American
immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model.


http://www.humanevents.com/2006/05/08/mexicos-immigration-law-lets-try-it-here-a t-home/

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Why do we have an immigration problem cash? Why don't you tell me. Be careful I have lived with illegal immigration most of my life. I have seen the state of AZ. tackle illegal immigration and get it right only to drop there program and never bring it up again.

And don't blame Obama for the border problems he has deported more people than any other president in the history of this country.

Mexico is a third world country who in there right mind would want to sneak in there. Mexico means high unemployment ,starvation wages, and bad health care. Isn't posting a topic about immigration laws about a country like Mexico ridiculous.

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No, ray, it is not ridiculous. It shows how ridiculous we are when it comes to responisbilities at our borders.

If a plane can vanish and nobody knows anything, dont you think they can sneak something pretty bad across the border in that sense? We already have human trafficking and drug problem spilling over. Not to mention cartel violence.

I get it. People want to be here, but you know what...there are really good people who are trying to use the LEGAL way to immigrate and its such a nightmare. I have more sympathy for them.

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your post is ridiculous, cash, to state immigration laws and punishments that represents a country so corrupt and depressed that people fleeing from it. And then you infer its there plain sense laws that stop illegal immigration to Mexico.

Now I will ask you again what causes illegal immigration to the U.S. from Mexico. As I have said before More people have been deported under Obama than in the entire history of the U.S. And the border patrol is bigger than its ever been.

To say they just like it here is not an answer. What would you do?? A wall does not work. Since this is a big point of interest of yours you must have a solution or are you dumb founded and have no answer can you do something besides point the finger.

Saying people want to immigrate to Mexico but the Mexican laws are just to plain so it keeps them away and stops illegal immigration is about as smart as saying people wanted to immigrate to Nazi Germany in 1939.

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a wall does not work? they seem to work pretty well when we actually use them. might as well say that prisons don't work, so why do we have them?

it is in fact illegal to employ "illegal aliens" in this country. yet people do it everyday not because they are nice or trying to help the "poor Mexicans" that are oppressed by their mean old rulers. they do it because it is profitable. take their ill-gotten profits, jail them for breaking th elaw and the mexicans will stop coming

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Who would want to go to Mexico?

Somebody who--for whatever reason--doesn't want to be entangled in US bureaucracy, most probably some sort of outlaw, although not necessarily criminal. Ideally, this person would have some liquid assets, available discretely online or through a law office. More important, the person would know the culture (and geography, etc) and be able to move around without attracting attention, thereby allowing keeping some ready cash available. That is to say, in many ways, it would be easier to "disappear into Mexico" than it would be into Canada.

Point taken, though--who moves to Mexico, openly, "looking for opportunity," except maybe a journalist, novelist, etc?

No, GEB, "walls don't work," unless you're willing to man them with guards and heroic measures, is, every few feet along the wall, heavily controlled gates, etc, aka "Berlin." In this country, they talk about fences/walls...then they leave miles unguarded, making it relatively easy to cross...or dig tunnels.

That being said, we agree about employers: focus the punishment on the employer. To me, anybody willing to work should be able to find a place.

Think about it this way: When you hear about horrible conditions, say, Ethiopa? Somalia? and so on, have you never thought, "Why don't they just leave?"

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The only thing a wall does is give the border crossers a little bit of shade before they start their trek.

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Glass and Tex you are 100% right it is the employers that you have to focus on. It works.

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the wall analogy was only intended as a parable.
prisons also require heroic efforts from many people to make them work, but there's alot of peopel we put in prison that do not belong there.(racism rears it ugly head gain in that too)

just like locks only keep out honest people walls and bars only keep out (or in) those beings who simply accept them for what they appear to be.

when we "takein" the mexicans who aspire to our lifestyle/ they have even less incentive to stay home and make their country into something for themselves.

this immigration issue is all lose for the Mexicans.

i have kicked around in alot of bad places in mexico. I like Mexican people. Mexico will never get better unless the mexicans make it bettr. we arn't helping Mexico or it's people with the policy we now have. Mexico has some great places to live too, but they have a serious a problem in that the middle class is too small.we are going to look alot like Mexioc if we keep alowoing our middle class to sink like we have been.

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quote:
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Glass and Tex you are 100% right it is the employers that you have to focus on. It works.

that's always been the real problem....

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guns are illegal in Mexico right? i've seen more private owend full autos in mexico than i have in the states.. the law in Mexico is very "pliable"....

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