I know one of you shared one not too long ago, there have been a few others recently. What is messed up about this beating is that the guy who was beat up (older man with dementia) was accused of assaulting an officer!
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interesting I posted that awhile back but thats ok needs to be posted more.
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: interesting I posted that awhile back but thats ok needs to be posted more.
Well I wasnt sure if it was THAT exact one or another beating, there are quite a few going around it seems these days.
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there's another one out today of a big (white male)training cop beating a(small white) woman who got out of her car too fast for his taste (in LA) the LA cops have a real chitstorm now cuz they get investigated immediately and the tape of it was found at the taco bell across the street.
The captains now have to show this tape at all roll calls, the captain of the beater got demoted and the cop prolly faces criminal charges.
i live in vry small town, jr is now old enough to "get acquainted" with the cops on his own. he went to karate with cops as teachers and i sent him on purpose so he would understand where they are coming form, but he got into trouble with 'em anyway. He told his friend that he didn't have to answer the cops questions at a traffic stop. jr was passenger. jr got cuffed immediately. i was called to scene, had to raise my hands and show my palms when i got outa the car they were so paranoid. The cops were ranting to me about how they could arrest jr for interfering with an investigation. None of this is new to me, but jr got schooled. After i determined jr was OK, i had to show him how to yes sir and no ma'am even a rude cop who is just plain wrong. he got it, and i got to take him straight home instead of bailing him out of jail. cops have a tough job, right or wrong isn't really in their job description. I had to 'splain to jr that he is correct, he don't have to keep his mouth shut, and he dcan tell his frined antyhing he wants within reason. The problem with doing that is that you then have to go to a Judge and pay alwayer to prove the cop is wrong, and it's expensive, and in th eend, the cops will still do it again to the next punk who is too smart for his oewn good.
on the other hand? these beatings? they are not acceptable.
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you should see all the federal forms at OSC, OIG and the FOIA, you prepare a statemtn close 100 pages long, and they wn't tak it. they have you fill out all these dozens of Q&A's and then they contact you so you can file your statement and then? they tell you that someone will get to you unless it's newsworthy and then they're interested right away... amazing.. and yet i understand why, and that si cuz too many people whine and then don;t follow thru, so they want to make sure you aren't wasting their time... so they screen you up front... it does make sense, cuz i know of couple of false complaints being filed as threats. they were not followed through on. and htose false statemnts are gonna hurt bad whn i finally put the screws down, but it will take a long while to get that done, just gotta be patient...
as to the video? go to the State Attorney's office, not the police. they do thier jobs, but they are slow...
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"I live in vry small town, jr is now old enough to "get acquainted" with the cops on his own. he went to karate with cops as teachers and i sent him on purpose so he would understand where they are coming form, but he got into trouble with 'em anyway. He told his friend that he didn't have to answer the cops questions at a traffic stop. jr was passenger. jr got cuffed immediately. i was called to scene, had to raise my hands and show my palms when i got outa the car they were so paranoid. The cops were ranting to me about how they could arrest jr for interfering with an investigation. None of this is new to me, but jr got schooled. After i determined jr was OK, i had to show him how to yes sir and no ma'am even a rude cop who is just plain wrong. he got it, and i got to take him straight home instead of bailing him out of jail. cops have a tough job, right or wrong isn't really in their job description. I had to 'splain to jr that he is correct, he don't have to keep his mouth shut, and he dcan tell his frined antyhing he wants within reason. The problem with doing that is that you then have to go to a Judge and pay alwayer to prove the cop is wrong, and it's expensive, and in th eend, the cops will still do it again to the next punk who is too smart for his oewn good."
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Tough job or not still isn't acceptable.
Wrong people in the wrong jobs.
Just a bully with a badge.
The police that act like this need to be sent on there way, no ifs, ands or buts.
It's the power that's the problem and we see it more and more through out the police departments.
Needs to be cleaned up before the plague takes over.
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i'm not defending them anymore than i want to defend Obama. I'm just trying to wlk in their shoes.
i agreet that laying hands on people is wrong. how many people are they forced to lay hands on before they lose it tho?
i had all the training to be a cop. shooting come natural to me, wrestilng -judo -drivin' fast,etc, but when i was about 11 my parents were campaigning for the county commissioner and the cnadidates 24 yr old son 9county cop) was shot in the chest dead at domestic dispute. Needless to say i was never encouraged to pursue that line of work by my parents. They knew the kid well. I could not give people tickets for dunbchit anyway. Esp laws i don't agree with. i don't share the notion that the law is the law no matter what.
I see it something like chronic PTSD. I still beleive everyone is accountable, but i am saying that we ask alot form them. Not too much, but alot.
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i watched alot of stuff go down in Californai (Riverside /San bernadino) that was bad cops being real bad. even video'ed some at one point. The time i video'ed it? the cops actually handled a crackhead hulk perfectly... and they didn't know i was videoing... the guy was bad news, and they took him down on domsetic and noone got hurt not even the guy fighting back.. three cops wer there but the two who took him down were a man and a woman. This guy was big enough that i would not have wanted to "close" with him. I would have taken it out doors if he wanted a fight, and i would never let him get a grip on me....Yet they have no choice but close on him and get a grip on him... I would take his knees out with short downward kicks if it was me... The cops in that case did it right. We rarely eve see those on the news tho... none of us are perfect, but noone has th right to beat up people cuz they feel like it either
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when i lived in Cali i noted the power is held differently there from other places i have lived. The State is more powerful in many ways than even in MD where i grew up. MD is an odd place anyway, but in Califronia the state *took* more power in some ways due to teh way it came to be. The gold rush was insanity and the state sort of sprung up overnite in response to demand for sanity.
for instance, many of my guns that i own were illegal there for arbitrary reasons that make no sense. A bayonnet lug is not a dangerous object unless it has a bayonnet on it. In any case, i'd rather face guy with a baynnoet than a forty five, which is legal there.... keep in mind that i am only a target shooter, not really a big hunter not a militia type.. paper cutting is my hobby.
what i truly miss about CA is th epure energy and drive of the place. It's hard to define properly, but it was palpable to me. I dunno if it's the peopel or the fault lines creating pressure on eahc other, or the air, but i felt it, and it was good. That may be gone now due to the recesion/depression, or it may not have had anything to do with people at all. i dunno. i just know i felt alive there esp. when i was out in the desert and in the hills around the Cajone Pass.... the faultlines would explain that energy for me, not hte people.
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May be the weather, were able to do so many things the year round which keeps us going.
Even if its just getting outside.
I know from living in Wash for quite a few years, that as i got older i missed that good weather, even thogh i still complain when we get a weeks worth of rain here.
The good weather really seems to motivate to do other things and like you say maybe those faults ring our brains, who knows.
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if i had moved form cali directly to MS? i would have lost it. the energy here is reverse..... maybe the MS river? being on the east bank is like getting your clock unwound
seriously tho, if i hadn't been in Nebrasky for a few years i would have gone nuts going from the high energy levels in cali to the laidbackness of this place..
each place is what it is, i accept that. Hawaii? great energy, great weahter, great people as long as you stay out of the wrong places. some of the wrong places in HI are pretty friggin scary too just as some of the wrong places in LA are.
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DUI checkpoints: Constitutional or unconstitutional?
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: DUI checkpoints: Constitutional or unconstitutional?
Get with the program Cowpie, those are "Safety Checkpoints". But, everyone knows what they really are. And, personally, I don't think they are constitutional. Stopping and harrassing people without cause doesn't seem right to me.
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the "right to drive a car" is the key right they try to use as not God-Given. That is changing tho because they rrecognise that without a car, you can't really survive in this world..
we are granted the right to move between the states without being stopped, No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one state, be obliged to enter, clear or pay duties in another. so why not inside the states? cuz they are powerhungry.
cash, i have on for YA, gay marriage is legal in at least one state now:
read this adn tell me how it affects everyone in other states:
U.S. Constitution Article IV
Section 1.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof. Section 2.
The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.
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I think that gay marriage is fine. If they find a church that will do it since marriage is a covenant between the couple and God. Now, if they want to have a civil union for the atheists then they should have that option too where they get the same legalities as marriage.
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I actually lean to the right on this a bit. I know, I know.....Cowpie is prolly messing himself right now reading this. But....I think Civil Unions should be allowed bewteen gays, et al. But I am against any religious affiliations with gay "marriage". That is just my off the cuff opinion.
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i think anyone can marry anyone u dam well please...honestly. I don't care who or what ...get married ...and then live with em for the rest of your life. or not. Your problem, not mine.
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So Jordan you would support me if I wanted to marry three women at once?
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gee cash, you've never been married before have you? three would be unadvisable, you need at least five if you are going to go with more than one.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: So Jordan you would support me if I wanted to marry three women at once?
of course...why not? ur biz.....doesnt affect me and has zero to do with anyone.. except them and you. who or what someone marries doesn't matter to me one iota. I DONT CARE
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: So Jordan you would support me if I wanted to marry three women at once?
I would support u if u wanted to marry 3 azzholes at once. ..And I mean that literally ....just marry the holes. or a tree..or ur daughter, brother, sister, cousin., your favorite frog...ur mom for gods sake. Why is this thing so important to you? On the list of things that really matter, this is a concern of yours? really? and u can say all u want that it is against gods will or plan or whatever...but that is only a copout., it just bothers u personally and u use the god excuse to alleviate any personal responsibility.
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