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In 2010, influenced by the Tea Party and its focus on fiscal issues, 17 states elected Republican governors. And, according to an Examiner.com analysis, every one of those states saw a drop in their unemployment rates since January of 2011. Furthermore, the average drop in the unemployment rate in these states was 1.35%, compared to the national decline of .9%, which means, according to the analysis, that the job market in these Republican states is improving 50% faster than the national rate.
Since January of 2011, here is how much the unemployment rate declined in each of the 17 states that elected Republican governors in 2010, according to the Examiner:
Kansas - 6.9% to 6.1% = a decline of 0.8% Maine - 8.0% to 7.4% = a decline of 0.6% Michigan - 10.9% to 8.5% = a decline of 2.4% New Mexico - 7.7% to 6.7% = a decline of 1.0% Oklahoma - 6.2% to 4.8% = a decline of 1.4% Pennsylvania - 8.0% to 7.4% = a decline of 0.6% Tennessee - 9.5% to 7.9% = a decline of 1.6% Wisconsin - 7.7% to 6.8% = a decline of 0.9% Wyoming - 6.3% to 5.2% = a decline of 1.1% Alabama - 9.3% to 7.4% = a decline of 1.9% Georgia - 10.1% to 8.9% = a decline of 1.2% South Carolina - 10.6% to 9.1% = a decline of 1.5% South Dakota - 5.0% to 4.3% = a decline of 0.7% Florida - 10.9% to 8.6% = a decline of 2.3% Nevada - 13.8% to 11.6% = a decline of 2.2% Iowa - 6.1% to 5.1% = a decline of 1.0% Ohio - 9.0% to 7.3% = a decline of 1.7%
On the other hand, the unemployment rate in states that elected Democrats in 2010 dropped, on average, as much as the national rate decline and, in some states such as New York, the unemployment rate has risen since January of 2011. This is yet another example of how the so-called “blue state” model is not working.
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You are such and idiot. Thanks for posting that Obama pump. After all your *****ing about the Obama stimulus. Most or all of these states accepted it and used it. Quietly of course, all whilst *****ing at the President. Where do think those jobs came from stupid? A good chunk was from the stimulus.
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Try looking at what the energy sector has done for these states. It is so abundant in North Dakota they even voted on eliminating the property tax. It was shot down, which is fine with me as a precaution but just goes to show.
Ohio, Wyoming, North Dakota, Kansas, and similar states are having oil and natural gas booms that are saving ghost towns and bringing in a ton of money to local communities and states while the big green stimulus projects keep dropping like dominoes. I am not saying we shouldnt try to develop cleaner fuels but a lot of this stuff is such a sham. Unproven technologies.
All these stimulus jobs seem temporary to me. Ok so you gave a bunch of money to states or companies to build a bridge or roads...good. Then what? Its like a massive temporary job bill for a few years then what?
Did you forget about the jobs report that came out last week? It was horrible, especially after Obama and Biden swore it would be hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. No accountability there though, right? I mean, you inherit a superpower and plan B is to blame Bush for what you inherited.
You keep drinking the kool aid though. I will go off the numbers that came out last week and then revert to the promises made years ago about what the stimulus would do if we just passed it....all the imaginary jobs and glory. Sure, it might have stimulated some jobs here and there...but cmon this is pretty weak.
The real stimulus going on in America is the oil boom and the thousands of jobs and extremely high wages it brings.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Try looking at what the energy sector has done for these states. It is so abundant in North Dakota they even voted on eliminating the property tax. It was shot down, which is fine with me as a precaution but just goes to show.
Ohio, Wyoming, North Dakota, Kansas, and similar states are having oil and natural gas booms that are saving ghost towns and bringing in a ton of money to local communities and states while the big green stimulus projects keep dropping like dominoes. I am not saying we shouldnt try to develop cleaner fuels but a lot of this stuff is such a sham. Unproven technologies.
All these stimulus jobs seem temporary to me. Ok so you gave a bunch of money to states or companies to build a bridge or roads...good. Then what? Its like a massive temporary job bill for a few years then what?
Did you forget about the jobs report that came out last week? It was horrible, especially after Obama and Biden swore it would be hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. No accountability there though, right? I mean, you inherit a superpower and plan B is to blame Bush for what you inherited.
You keep drinking the kool aid though. I will go off the numbers that came out last week and then revert to the promises made years ago about what the stimulus would do if we just passed it....all the imaginary jobs and glory. Sure, it might have stimulated some jobs here and there...but cmon this is pretty weak.
The real stimulus going on in America is the oil boom and the thousands of jobs and extremely high wages it brings.
Again you change the subject when you are proven to be an idiot. YOU ARE what the GOP loves. Uninformed idiots.
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Just GOP BS ment to give to a very under educated public. It is the same type with no knowledge of our historical background as a nation, They just respond to brain clutter under the heading of nationalism and other slogans.
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: Just GOP BS ment to give to a very under educated public. It is the same type with no knowledge of our historical background as a nation, They just respond to brain clutter under the heading of nationalism and other slogans.
You've seen my backyard? Dam google map global zoomers!!
Sustainable growth cant be started with stimulus imo. It has to be grown. We are so in debt right now it's just amazing. Let's see some margin calls already. Can a state really file for BK? Crazy.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Try looking at what the energy sector has done for these states. It is so abundant in North Dakota they even voted on eliminating the property tax. It was shot down, which is fine with me as a precaution but just goes to show.
Ohio, Wyoming, North Dakota, Kansas, and similar states are having oil and natural gas booms that are saving ghost towns and bringing in a ton of money to local communities and states while the big green stimulus projects keep dropping like dominoes. I am not saying we shouldnt try to develop cleaner fuels but a lot of this stuff is such a sham. Unproven technologies.
All these stimulus jobs seem temporary to me. Ok so you gave a bunch of money to states or companies to build a bridge or roads...good. Then what? Its like a massive temporary job bill for a few years then what?
Did you forget about the jobs report that came out last week? It was horrible, especially after Obama and Biden swore it would be hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. No accountability there though, right? I mean, you inherit a superpower and plan B is to blame Bush for what you inherited.
You keep drinking the kool aid though. I will go off the numbers that came out last week and then revert to the promises made years ago about what the stimulus would do if we just passed it....all the imaginary jobs and glory. Sure, it might have stimulated some jobs here and there...but cmon this is pretty weak.
The real stimulus going on in America is the oil boom and the thousands of jobs and extremely high wages it brings.
Again you change the subject when you are proven to be an idiot. YOU ARE what the GOP loves. Uninformed idiots.
you are such an angry lib. Get off the Keith Olberman, Al Sharpton, and Ed Schultz bandwagon already.
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where does anybody gt teh notion that sustainable growth is even possible?
what is sustainable growth?
define it since you bozos keep talking about it..
i used to fix IBM typewriters. i'm highly trained and qualified to do it. as amatter of act? i used to knock out 20 service calls per day.
show me one to fix and wher to get the parts now...
the weaponssytem i trained and and worke on the navy?? obsolete now.
telephone linemen almost gone, TV repair man? LOL joke
LOL... this is all stupid. there is no such thing as a permanent job,
farmers? they used to hire hundreds to plant and hargvest adn deliver grain.. now? they hire a dozne temps.
IF people needed work to be done? there would be jobs. that's the real problem.
Jobs have gone to thos e states that have NATGAS to drill for.
guess what? they don't NEED to drill for natgas anymore cuz we are already glutted with it.
those are and were Temporay jobs.
show me a permanant job.... its fiction. and this whole argument is about as dumb as it gets.
collectign garbage is permant job about as permantn as it gets unitl th erobotic trucks which are basically all invented already become cost-feasible to buy..
teh stimulus package teverybody gets on Obama about? it was just about half tax cuts.
but nobody remembers that.... the census? cosntitutional requirement, not a policy scheme...
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The stimulus cannot create sustainable growth and was never meant to. It created one-time infrastructure opportunities that would provide jobs for a short period while the private sector regained its footing and improve the states roads and systems at the same time.
And...contrary to many reports, it worked. There are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama took office. A full 4.3 Million private sector jobs have been added to the economy since job creation return 13 months into the Obama presidency.
What's kinda funny is that it is public sector jobs which guys like CCM don't like that is doing more at keeping jobless rates up. Public sector jobs are down nearly 3% since Obama took office. If that were different and the public sector had grown during Obama's first term at the same rate it had under Bush then there would a full percentage shaved off the unemployment rate.
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quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: The stimulus cannot create sustainable growth and was never meant to. It created one-time infrastructure opportunities that would provide jobs for a short period while the private sector regained its footing and improve the states roads and systems at the same time.
And...contrary to many reports, it worked. There are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama took office. A full 4.3 Million private sector jobs have been added to the economy since job creation return 13 months into the Obama presidency.
What's kinda funny is that it is public sector jobs which guys like CCM don't like that is doing more at keeping jobless rates up. Public sector jobs are down nearly 3% since Obama took office. If that were different and the public sector had grown during Obama's first term at the same rate it had under Bush then there would a full percentage shaved off the unemployment rate.
Why dont I like public sector jobs?
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Public sector jobs equal paid for by the gov.
You get that right?
You always rail on government spending and government employment.
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OH and also? the states that got Obama stimulus money frequently used it to keep from having to fire workers, or in TX case dip into their "rainy day fund" - Texas is a state with lots of energy industry jobs too.
no more stimulus for the states? jobs get cut.... moslty these are people who have mortgages who will end up losing their houses too.. Texas wasn't on that list? wazzupwitdat?
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry likes to tell Washington to stop meddling in state affairs. He vocally opposed the Obama administration's 2009 stimulus program to spur the economy and assist cash-strapped states.
Perry also likes to trumpet that his state balanced its budget in 2009, while keeping billions in its rainy day fund. But he couldn't have done that without a lot of help from ... guess where? Washington.
Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Even budget deficits are bigger in Texas
Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.
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what is really funny, and i don't have teh time or inclination to dig into it, but what i kept hearing from Faux News when the natioanl unemployment rate was dropping was that people were just giving up and not being takne off the roles..
but when it's time to make this about GOP's it reflects success.... 0.45% better... LOL... it take real twisted mind to try to make this unemployment situation a good thing...
even when Romney insist they not talk about it all...
it bad all round, even peopl WITH good jobs are now immobilised by the lack of jobs and people who should be retiring are not, which means those of us that should be advancing itno higher leadership positions cannot because we have to wait for these people upsidedown in thier homes to retire.... but hey can't cuz they can't sell their house and they can't afford to retire in it...
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BTW? i cut from the list all states above the natiaonl average,of 8.1% and all of them that cut it less than the natioal average cut of .9% and this is what is left:
New Mexico - 7.7% to 6.7% = a decline of 1.0% Oklahoma - 6.2% to 4.8% = a decline of 1.4% Tennessee - 9.5% to 7.9% = a decline of 1.6% Wyoming - 6.3% to 5.2% = a decline of 1.1% Alabama - 9.3% to 7.4% = a decline of 1.9% Iowa - 6.1% to 5.1% = a decline of 1.0% Ohio - 9.0% to 7.3% = a decline of 1.7% \Alabama struck me as odd in this so i looked to see what they did:
July 10, 2012 10:50 AM
Number of Alabamians on food stamps growing again
MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Nearly one in five Alabama residents is getting food stamps, and the number is growing again after declining for a few months.
Experts say it's too early to tell if the one-month increase is merely a bump on the road to economic recovery or a trend.
The number of Alabamians on food stamps peaked at 916,345 in December and then began declining slightly each month until reaching 902,277 in April. Then in May, the number rose to 906,884 — or 19 percent of Alabama's residents. They received $115.4 million in assistance with their groceries.
Alabama's food stamp rate is down 1 percentage point from its peak, while the unemployment rate is down 2.6 percentage points from its peak.
Keivan Deravi, an economist at Auburn University Montgomery, said that the unemployment rate and the food stamp rate are connected in the long term, but that the unemployment rate changes much faster than the food stamp rate. One reason is that an unemployed person can get a job and come off the unemployment rolls. But if that job is low paying, the person's paycheck may be low enough to qualify for some food stamps.
Deravi said another reason the food stamp rate hasn't dropped as fast as the unemployment rate is that much of Alabama's decline in unemployment is due to unemployed people giving up on hunting for a job. If they aren't searching, they are no longer counted in the unemployment rate, but they still can get food stamps, he said. The increase in Alabama's food stamp rate comes as Congress debates the future of the program, officially known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The benefits are paid entirely by the federal government. States administer the program, with the state and federal governments splitting the administrative costs. The costs have risen dramatically with the slowdown in the economy. Alabama, for instance, has twice as money people receiving food stamps now as it did in 2007, when unemployment was low.
so, Alabama has a "food stamp" governor heh...
how's that saying go about lies and statistics?
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Are not the food stamps a federal program and not state? How does that make AL a food stamp governor?
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LOS ANGELES — The Obama administration has approved a new natural gas drilling project in Utah that is designed to support more than 4,000 jobs and boost the production of energy while protecting the environment — all political issues in the current presidential election year.
U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced the approval on Tuesday during an appearance outside Salt Lake City. Texas-based Anadarko Petroleum Corp. will be allowed to develop up to 3,675 natural gas wells in the next decade in Uintah County, about 170 miles southeast of Salt Lake City near the Colorado border.
The announcement comes as Republicans have pressed the Obama administration on energy policy and on job-creation efforts at a time when the national unemployment rate is 8.1 percent. As part of its attack on how the Democrats are dealing with the economy, the GOP has called for more production and more drilling.
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It is about time, and the funny thing is Salazar is a big bully to oil and gas companies.
So glass, how do you have a bunch of people applying for federal assistance, and call the Governor of Alabama the food stamp Governor?
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: It is about time, and the funny thing is Salazar is a big bully to oil and gas companies.
So glass, how do you have a bunch of people applying for federal assistance, and call the Governor of Alabama the food stamp Governor?
the same way they Faux News people call Obam the food stamp president cash.
as to natgas? i don't use it right now in my glassblowing biz primarily cuz it requirres a significant infrastructure investment to which i am then tied down.
i have used propane for ten years now and when we finally get out of MS and set down in civilization, i will take advantage ot he cheap natgas prices we are going to have.
you know, people beach about Obama and fracking issues, but Obama has only been trying to make sure that the oil co's do it right.
peopel beached when Obama din't send int ehNavy to the Horizon blowout, then they beached when he issued a Standown Order to eh deepest drillers until they figured out why the well belw and then the safetys failed.
fact is? even with all those fires out west the Air Force stood down the C130 water drop planes last week when one crashed in South dakota. Because that is what is smart. safety First. It's way cheaper to prevent accidents than to clean them up and pay for them.
The deep drillers could not offer an excuse for the Horizon event. I am not even sure they ever really did. But Obma gets blamed. What i am really hearing form the complainers is that they don't want to take responsibility for their actions they only want the money.
I am concerned that Romney would get in therre and take away all accountability from oil gas and most all businesses int he name of making more money and when people get hurt or ther livelihoods destroyed by otheres actions Romney and the New GOPs attitude will be suck it up and quit whining you losers.
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quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: Public sector jobs equal paid for by the gov.
You get that right?
You always rail on government spending and government employment.
I rail on government spending because of the waste. That is what I do not get about this board. Everyone is always defending the government, defending government expansion, and higher taxes. There is so much faith in the government here to take more wealth from the private citizen, and then place it into the coffers of the government fat cats. At the same time, Republican politicians get slammed over and over, yet the dialogue is also "they are all the same" and Democrats seem to get a blind eye.
So pardon me if I have a problem with all the loopholes and the lack of sincerity to reign in on government waste. This whole health care debacle is a nightmare, and yet so many here embrace it. Sure there are good things in the bill, but most people dont realize that soon if they dont buy something, they face a penalty/tax of $2,500 and possibly jail time. The massive expansion of IRS agents, over 17,000 new ones. You like that? You like the bloating of the IRS? Have you ever been to a DMV that was just a nightmare? This new health care law is the DMV times a thousand.
Why not provide healthcare for the 30,000,000 without it instead of flipping the whole system upside down, creating a whole bunch of new government agencies, and launching numerous back door taxes.
That is my problem. Not the government employee themselves. The amount of waste in government spending is so massive it is nearly impossible to account for.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I rail on government spending because of the waste. That is what I do not get about this board. Everyone is always defending the government, defending government expansion, and higher taxes. There is so much faith in the government here to take more wealth from the private citizen, and then place it into the coffers of the government fat cats. At the same time, Republican politicians get slammed over and over, yet the dialogue is also "they are all the same" and Democrats seem to get a blind eye.
cash, you posted a link to an article about eh EPA using drones.
they never did that.
until the Democrats took back over? it was most defintiley the GOP that were doing what they NOW say they want to fix, in fact? they are all just plain lying.
you are not skeptical of the GOP's like you should be. others are not skeptical of their own party like they should be either hencce the parties just screw us all.
the problem is that Bush had full control of both houses of Congress when he set us up for this collpase.
i am beginning to wonder if we didn't really lose our economy on 9-11 and it took them a few years to create a plausible scenario wher they could lay the facts on US wihtout 'splaining exactly why and how, but that is just speckelashun..
fact? the GOP is jsut as guilty as the Dems and you can't seem to accept that. instead you want to spout what the Faux News people keep telling you, which is all partisan crap.
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seriously cash? you are theo nly person who is left that used to defend Bush.
there were actually alot of people here 5 yrs ago who rabidly defended everything he did... until the collpase came. then they had enough sense to realise just how badly he & cheney effed US. you don't seem to get that. Bush and dick had alot fo help from Congress.... and Congress is both parties, but Bush had a GOP run congress for 6 whole years, and Cheney did wahtever the hell he wanted and told everybody who disagreed to go eff themselves.
you know why Obama got elected? cuz he actaully voted against eh war in Iraq. even Hillary voted fo rthat..
Obama is not perfect, none of US are, but he hasn't really screwed anything up unless you want to see real Justice served on all the white collar criminals who robed our nation blind. he is guilty of not serving up their heads on pikes and i personally want to see that. I'm fed up witht he lyig and cheating and stealing that everybody seems to think is just good business today
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