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How about you answer the actual question this time. If Romney wins.....then what?

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What do you mean then what? We will still have politics being played, but I bet the economy will do much better. The markets are going to react very positively too.

Obama is just not good for the economy. Why cant you see that?


ANOTHER high risk "green" company going under. These stories of risky ventures failing over and over are getting old. Tax payer money too. Remember how you were sold on all these companies that were going to bring tons of jobs before the stimulus bill was signed? I didnt buy the snake oil.

A geothermal energy company with a $98.5 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration for an alternative energy project in Nevada — which received hearty endorsements from Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid — faces financial problems, and the company’s auditors have questioned whether it can stay in business.

Much like Solyndra LLC, a California solar-panel manufacturer with a $535 million federal loan guarantee that went bankrupt, Nevada Geothermal Power (NGP) has incurred $98 million in net losses over the past several years, has substantial debts and does not generate enough cash from its current operations after debt-service costs, an internal audit said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/4/lights-go-dim-on-another-energy-p roject/

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Glass....you say it's the rich but look who is getting their pockets greased....our senators and our representatives by big corps. It's not joe blow down the street who makes $1,000,000 a year because he has grown a business. This is not Democrat or republican issue. It's an American issue. Our govt. is Screwing us and as it grows the screwing will get harder and harder.

Look I am not pro Romney at all and I don't think he stands a chance to win...AT ALL.

I may be a conservative on some levels but I believe in pro choice and of course weed should be legalized. However, our govt is growing at too fast a pace our GDP will collapse at a certain % of govt employees. Not if but when.


Email I received that I thought applied here.

Today is July 4, 2012.


It has been 236 years since the drafting and signing by America’s founders of our national birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence.

That’s why some of us – too few, really – call the holiday we commemorate today “Independence Day.” That is, indeed, the actual name of the holiday.

It’s not just “the Fourth of July.” It’s not just the day we shoot off Chinese-made fireworks. It’s not just the day we barbecue burgers. It’s not just the day we go to the beach. It’s Independence Day – so named because on or about this date in 1776, a group of courageous men risked their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor for a dream of freedom and sweet autonomy from an imperial power.

By the way, it wasn’t just the birthdate of American freedom. It was the birthdate of freedom around the world. That’s why the French called George Washington not just the founding father of the American Revolution, but “the father of freedom.” He was truly the inspiration for freedom fighters everywhere.

We ought to mark this occasion with some real reflection – even some solemnity and sobriety.

Unfortunately, too few Americans today put much value in independence. Most no longer celebrate, cherish or appreciate independence. Independence is not considered an ideal.

Our political and cultural elite don’t want to see a nation full of independent-minded, self-governing citizens who will hold their leaders accountable to their will and the laws of the land. They would prefer sheep. So they have conspired to bring in to America millions and millions more sheep – illegally.

You will hear the elite preach about the value of living in an “interdependent” world. Have you heard that? “Interdependence” – this is considered a good thing. Keep in mind every time you hear that word “interdependence” glorified and revered that interdependence is simply a synonym for “dependence.”

It has nothing to do with “independence” – that thing for which our founders risked their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

The sad truth is the American dream of independence has been betrayed. Americans are worse off today, in terms of individual freedom, than they were before the War of Independence. In fact, take a look at the dictionary definition of “colony” and see if it doesn’t apply to us today.

colony: 1) a group of people who settle in a distant land but remain under the political jurisdiction of their native land 2) a territory distant from the state having jurisdiction or control over it

Aren’t Americans, in a sense, all colonists of the great imperial throne in the District of Columbia? We all pay tribute to this faraway empire. We are, in reality, little more than serfs doing the bidding of those in the federal corridors of power in Washington. We’re taxed without real representation. We’re forced to support a growing standing army of federal police in our communities. And we face a growing threat of disarmament – one of the great fears of the colonists who touched off the American Revolution at Lexington and Concord.

What do you think?

Are we better off today than our forefathers were in 1776?

Are we living freer lives today than were the founders?

If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could return today to see America – the tax rates, the overreaching central government, the subservience of states to Washington, the non-limitations on the federal government – would they consider us free? Would they consider us independent?

Is American sovereignty and independence still worth a fight?

What are you willing to risk? What are you willing to sacrifice today in the name of freedom and independence?

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Surfer, its too bad more people dont think like you.

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quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Glass....you say it's the rich but look who is getting their pockets greased....our senators and our representatives by big corps. It's not joe blow down the street who makes $1,000,000 a year because he has grown a business. This is not Democrat or republican issue. It's an American issue. Our govt. is Screwing us and as it grows the screwing will get harder and harder.

Look I am not pro Romney at all and I don't think he stands a chance to win...AT ALL.

I may be a conservative on some levels but I believe in pro choice and of course weed should be legalized. However, our govt is growing at too fast a pace our GDP will collapse at a certain % of govt employees. Not if but when.

i didn't think you did support him. i am just concerned that we are not addressing any of the real issues that have destroyed our economy. it is alck of integrity at almost every level..

look at eh drug comapnies- they are admitting to malfeasance and paying fines every day as matter of business.. gues what? just like the oil spills, we consumers pay for all of that while they are screwing us, it's like going to a whore and paying to be whipped. and then going to the doctor and getting your wounds treated with salt

and i cannot beleive nobody else is pissed off. maybe they are but hey arn't teh guys on TV building and running the politcal landscape..

as cash is saying that he thinks the economy will do better under romney i don't have frigin clue why he would think that. the economy ran aground under th elast batch of people calling themsleves conservative. Romney's business background is to dismantle and sell off corporations that are supposedly not running well...

facts are facts and the history is that Romney has done the dismantlingg for the some of the quickest profits ever available on the planet, good for him, but it has nothing to do with long term planning... govt is long term planning. period.

i will say again that i am not against private equtiy-vulture capitalism whne it is in the place it belongs in our system.

calling unions vultures doesn't mean anything.

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Well said and hell yea I am upset.

This lack of integrity is being woven into our country like a disease. We have become thought of as lazy because we are.

This is my whole point of the topic. Giving begets laziness.

Enabling at its finest.

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Who cares what other countries call us.

Over the years they have probably called us just about everything.

That's what gets us into wars worrying about what other countries think and say and oil.

What we need to do is worry more about what will help this country get through the hard times of today and not what these other countries might do or say.

If people don't have enough money to makes ends meet then they need to get it somewhere and many of these jobs today don't even come close.

How is someone suppose to get motivated to get a job when you can't even pay your living by working.

So tighten up your doors if we do not find some better solutions to our problems, because it ain't getting any better by politicians just talking.

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i leave my doors unlocked, but that's just to lure them into the jaws of no-no-bad-dog who can lick a six foot tall person in the face while they are standing up... of course nobody knows that he would do just that- especially if he barks.....

seriously? i have become less and less optimistic that we really did avoid a depression... we have struggled thru the last three years, but i see several more years of this as of right now...

romney? i don't really beleive anything he says, that's cuz i can find any number of positions he has made on almost any subject...

i thnk if he wins? he will stimulate certain sectors of the economy for couple years and then they crash hard.

obama? i thnk he would do some odd things if re-elected, but mostly i think he'll get nothing done at all if re-elected cuz the congress won't send him a darn thing to sign. maybe that's really the best thing...

and yes, i agree that we are in for some rough times either way..

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It's to bad we have to put our hopes in politicians, some might have had good ideas when they came into office but those ideas are mostly crushed by the parties.

The parties are more interested in the parties than they are this nation, this makes it very hard to move forward for the best of the majority.

We never know whether they are lying or telling the truth, either way it seems to come out the same way.

The thing that bothers me more and more is that lying has become a acceptable way of life these
days, whether it be business or in our own daily life.

We have to correct this so future generations don't believe this is okay.

We are forced to lie at jobs and in many everyday situations just to stay above water.

It's easy to look at this food program and criticize it, but think about our daily life and how many times we lie to process something or sell something etc.

I have people calling on the phone constantly selling something and it is a constant lie what they are saying, when you call them out on their lies they get offended.

Probably most don't even realize what they are saying or even care, until their kids lie to them.

Most have to do what they are told or lose their job, or find one that they don't have to lie all the time... tough task.


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