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This is looking to be a fun night for politics. We got PA, AR, OR, and as of this post, Rand Paul looks to be leading in KY. Turncoat spector might get a reality check too.
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i hope the GOP takes the house, i want to see them own some of this.
i want them to stand up in Congress and 'splain how they plan to cut spending without giving what's left of our country to China.
i'd like to hear them 'splain how they can come up with enough unemployment benefits, or how the FDIC can cover the bank runs that follow.
Or how we "lost money" bailing out he banks and GM... (BTW, we didn't we will get paid well for it)
i'm tired of the talk, put them in the hot seat and make 'em sweat.
I am glad to see Rand Paul (kentuck) up there. I want some honest discussion from him cuz i like alot of his ideas, they aren't as nearly crazy as some people think. And they aren't as crazy as some of the policies in place today.
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Well the republicans need to adjust there parties platform and thats all they did .
How is a republican primary any in any way bring forth a swing in the entire country's position on issues.
The Dems won in Penn. and retained Murtha's seat.That is solid.
And through a slight platform change in the republican party and through Tea party, that has shown the have some influence in the old south. I really see nothing more than that nothing.
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when i was a kid,myparents were staunch GOP's who were very active int heparty. They had alotof real true friends that were Dems and just as active and just as staunch in their support of the opposing party. They respected each other and i played with the kids of our so-called political enemies with no real problems, yeah i did run my mouth and get in trouble at times even then (ok all the itme so what, wanna make a federal case about it? ), but my point is that since Watergate? Our country is splitting apart. I can point to that incident directly and clearly cuz it cost my family alot and my parents were not involved in it. The result was that my Dad became a strict conservative who was bitter, and changed his whole life including his social circles.
This partisanship crapola is just a a bunch of immature people acting like they are just out of kindergarten and were passed only cuz the teacher had no other choice. The country needs some real leadership people to show how to come together on the problems we really have, cuz our way of life is slipping away, and both sides are at fault.
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I agree with you glass it would make a lot of sense if it actually happened that way. But you have to look at the way the republicans have acted in very recent history. They have done nothing but obstruct and they have made a very serious turn to the right that is ultra extreme to the point of almost fascism.
Point being look at this math teacher in Alabama who taught a lesson to his class using the the shooting of our elected President as an example of angles and striaght lines. And he is getting away with it. I was taught by teachers that would never do such a thing in a public class and would not let any student bring up such garbage.
So my point when you give up governing,like the repubs have, and want to make a fight or a shoot out out of our political system watch out you might get what you are asking for.
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i know there's alot of GOP's that are extreme, there's also Dems that are extreme and Obama is not one of them, Hillary? I think she's more extrme than Obama by a long shot...but they get less attention right now. I think the fox liars are major part of the problem.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: Buh bye Arlen Specter...
What is that now? 4 for 4 that Obama has endorsed that have lost their races? Lol
hmmmm... you are making a joke right?
Specter was a 30 year GOP turncoat, and you want to tie Obama around his neck like a stone?
Face it, anybody in power right now is standing in quicksand- GOP or Dems... the economy is why.
the TeaParty which is not a Party at all is going to make some changes happen i hope, let's make those changes to the good, and leave the Palin mentality in Alaska where it belongs.
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Specter was a 30 year GOP turncoat, and you want to tie Obama around his neck like a stone?
I hear you Glass. Specter turned blue for the same reason he turned red 30 years ago...political expediency. But you have to admit...Obama is forming an unfortunate pattern in state elections.
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Obama is forming an unfortunate pattern in state elections.
we are in a depression that is not a depression. nobody is safe.
Beach McConnell Lost his boy in kentucky, to Rand Paul. I'd vote for Rand Paul. I'm a libertarian who recognises that overcrowding means you have to make the smallest compromises possible. When the DOW takes the dive i am pretty sure is coming agian? people are going to blame Obama and health care and the Dems in Congress.
I'm going to point out that i expected this the day Obama was worn in. It's a charting rule, and charts rule.
If you are really a conservative and you beleive in Conservative principles in Govt? You need to start being critical of the people in your own camp to hold them tot he highest standards. that's the only chance Conservativsm has to come back.
This ain't about my party do or die, this about putting the very best people forward to represent your beleifs, and showing the wingnuts th edoor. The wingnuts are running the train right now, and Casey Jones is a true story.
Suppose i got a chnce to vote for Ron Paul and he won? I would have lots of criticism for him too WHEN IT IS DUE>
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balanced the budget? i don't think so, Pawlenty's 2009 unilateral budget cuts, which the Minnesota Supreme Court invalidated last week. :
From Legislature: Tax hikes, budget cuts; From Pawlenty: A likely veto By Jason Hoppin and Bill Salisbury Pioneer Press Updated: 05/11/2010 09:41:38 AM CDT
In an apparent exercise in futility, Democratic legislators on Monday unveiled and quickly passed a bill to increase income taxes on the wealthiest Minnesotans as part of a plan to fill a $3 billion gap in the state budget.
Despite that, they appear headed back to the drawing board with less than a week to go in the 2010 session. The proposal barely survived the Senate, drew tepid support in the House and, more important, faces a promised veto from Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
"The DFL's proposed tax increase is like Jason in 'Friday the 13th' — it's scary, and it keeps coming back," the governor said in a statement.
The proposal adopted many of Pawlenty's 2009 unilateral budget cuts, which the Minnesota Supreme Court invalidated last week. But to close the final gap, DFLers proposed raising $435 million by increasing the income tax rate on Minnesota's top earners by 1.25 percent.
"Will the governor veto it? I'm sure he will," House Majority Leader Tony Sertich, DFL-Chisolm, said on the House floor, admitting the DFL-controlled Legislature and the governor were at loggerheads. "We're at a stalemate, because the governor hasn't moved since day one."
Pawlenty's veto threat didn't surprise anyone at the Capitol. He has said repeatedly that he would veto any tax increase that reaches his desk, and during his 7 1/2 years as governor, he has vetoed three DFL bills that would have boosted taxes.
Under the DFL tax measure, individuals earning more than $113,110
Last week's 4-3 Supreme Court decision has caused much hand-wringing at the Capitol because it has the potential to cause those affected by Pawlenty's unilateral budget cuts last year to ask for their money back. But several of those groups have signaled they won't sue.
Last week, Pawlenty directed state departments to come up with lists of spending priorities if the state begins to run out of cash.
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The Senate and House passed a plan that includes a $435 million tax increase, and there's the rub.
By BAIRD HELGESON, Star Tribune
Last update: May 11, 2010 - 10:45 AM
Despite the promise of a swift gubernatorial veto, the DFL-led Senate and House narrowly passed a budget-balancing package Monday that includes a $435 million income tax increase on higher earners.
The bill adopts most of Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty's proposed cuts, using the tax increase to bridge the gap. DFL leaders crafted the proposal over the weekend to address the state's $3 billion deficit and hustled it through committees Monday morning. They pushed it through both chambers by nightfall over the heated protest of Republicans and with only shaky support of their own members
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this article claims Pawlenty isn't cutting taxes, but raising property taxes:
Thursday, May 20, 2010 | 7 : 15 PM Get Ready for Governor Pawlenty's Property Tax Hike
Homeowner property tax increases resulting from the governor's proposal would be greater among greater Minnesota cities than among greater Minnesota towns and metropolitan communities because greater Minnesota cities are more dependent on Local Government Aid (LGA) and will be hurt more by the governor's proposed cuts to LGA.
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Republican Charles Djou captures House seat in Democratic Hawaii district
Republican Charles Djou was elected to a vacant House seat Saturday in the heavily Democratic Hawaii district where President Obama was born and raised, handing the GOP a symbolic victory in its bid to retake control of Congress.
Although a Democrat has represented the urban Honolulu-based congressional district for nearly 20 years, Djou's win came as no surprise. With no party primaries heading into the winner-takes-all special election, two leading Democratic candidates, state Senate President Colleen Hanabusa and former congressman Ed Case, fought for months and ended up splintering their party's base.
Djou, a Honolulu city councilman, won 39.4 percent of the vote in the 1st Congressional District, while Hanabusa finished second with 30.8 percent and Case was third with 27.6 percent, according to final election results. About 54 percent of the district's 317,000 registered voters cast ballots.
First Republican voted in 20 years in that race! Obamas old stomping ground too!
November can not come soon enough.
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), but my point is that since Watergate? Our country is splitting apart. I can point to that incident directly and clearly cuz it cost my family alot and my parents were not involved in it. The result was that my Dad became a strict conservative who was bitter, and changed his whole life including his social circles. 
