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Olbermann has distinguished himself as one of the biggest jokes on TV.

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Olbermann Offers Hannity $1K per Second to Be Waterboarded
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20090424_olbermann_offers_hannity_1k_minute _to_be_waterboarded/
Posted on Apr 24, 2009
So, Sean Hannity told Charles Grodin on Wednesday night that he would agree to be waterboarded “for charity”—and you’d better believe that that sort of talk wasn’t lost on Keith Olbermann. On Thursday’s “Countdown,” Olbermann upped the ante for Hannity’s date with “enhanced interrogation techniques” by offering to open his own pocketbook for the cause.

MSNBC:

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Originally posted by Lockman:
Olbermann has distinguished himself as one of the biggest jokes on TV.

i agree that he is just one of them. Hannity is another.
the sad part is that the joke is on th epeople that take them seriously- Olberman is the flip side of Hannity just as Howard Stern (when he was on regular radio) was the flip side of Limbugger.

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MSNBC has got to have the most pro-gay open agenda ever. Keith and Rachel constantly bring it up and even came down on Ms. California for standing up for what she believes in.


Looks like the ones calling others ignorant are the ignorant ones themselves!

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HANNITY IS A WIMP AND GAS BAG NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS

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Id rather hang out and have a beer with Hannity than jeannene garafalo.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Id rather hang out and have a beer with Hannity than jeannene garafalo.

good lord...

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Hannity is an ***hole
Olberman is a dickweed
and the sight of Garafalo gives me the urge to vomit

Not any of them provide anything even remotely informative or useful...

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I say waterboard the whole lot of them!!!!! Can anyone in the media think for themselves or do they all have to have an agenda in line with their respective networks in order to stay employed????? I am absolutely sick of the BS going on in the media! I'd rather see Olberman and Hannity both locked in a pen together with a rabid pit bull that's been fed nothing but gun powder for a month.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Id rather hang out and have a beer with Hannity than jeannene garafalo.

i'd love to have Hannity over to my house for a beer or 24 [Big Grin] .

i rarely use my fists, i don't like to cut my knuckles but in his case? i'd make an exception [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by retiredat49:
Hannity is an ***hole
Olberman is a dickweed
and the sight of Garafalo gives me the urge to vomit

Not any of them provide anything even remotely informative or useful...

exactly

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Eight days of silence since Hannity volunteered to be waterboarded: Is he chickening out?
Over a week ago -- on Thurs., April 22 -- Fox News' torture enthusiast Sean Hannity agreed to be waterboarded for charity to prove that it is not torture. Though he dismissed waterboarding as simply taking someone's head and "dunk[ing] it in water," he has remained notably silent on his promise ever since, perhaps regretting that he volunteered to subject himself to the intensely terrifying suffocation experience. MSNBC's Keith Olbermann offered last week to donate $1,000 to military families for every second Hannity is waterboarded. In the face of Hannity's silence, Olbermann repeated the offer this week:

OLBERMANN: Sean, my offer still stands, 1,000 dollars a second. This is not a stunt nor game. Prove to those families you are a man of your word. In fact, prove you are a man.

Hannity, we await your reply.

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here's the facts about waterboarding the US laws established it was torture long ago:

The United States knows quite a bit about waterboarding. The U.S. government - whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community - has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt. Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: "I was given several types of torture…. I was given what they call the water cure." He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. "Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning," he replied, "just gasping between life and death."

Nielsen's experience was not unique. Nor was the prosecution of his captors. After Japan surrendered, the United States organized and participated in the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, generally called the Tokyo War Crimes Trials. Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged, among their many other crimes, with torturing Allied military personnel and civilians. The principal proof upon which their torture convictions were based was conduct that we would now call waterboarding.

In this case from the tribunal's records, the victim was a prisoner in the Japanese-occupied Dutch East Indies:

A towel was fixed under the chin and down over the face. Then many buckets of water were poured into the towel so that the water gradually reached the mouth and rising further eventually also the nostrils, which resulted in his becoming unconscious and collapsing like a person drowned. This procedure was sometimes repeated 5-6 times in succession.


that's the facts.

the Doolittle raid was one of most glorified sorties in any war effort ever. we spit on those US heroes who were TORTURED by doing it to our own captives IMO

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in 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian. The subject was strapped on a stretcher that was tilted so that his feet were in the air and head near the floor, and small amounts of water were poured over his face, leaving him gasping for air until he agreed to talk.

"Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor,


Vietnam War

Waterboarding was designated as illegal by U.S. generals in the Vietnam War.[76] On January 21, 1968, The Washington Post published a controversial photograph of two U.S soldiers and one South Vietnamese soldier participating in the waterboarding of a North Vietnamese POW near Da Nang.[77] The article described the practice as "fairly common".[77] The photograph led to the soldier being court-martialled by a U.S. military court within one month of its publication, and he was discharged from the army.[76][78] Another waterboarding photograph of the same scene is also exhibited in the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City.[79]

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In 1983 Texas sheriff James Parker and three of his deputies were convicted for conspiring to force confessions. The complaint said they "subject prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning".[71] The sheriff was sentenced to ten years in prison, and the deputies to four years.[71][78]

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it ruins a hero to do something wrong even tho they beleive in the outcome.

it takes a real hero to do something wrong because they beleive in it AND then take the punishment provided by a jury of his or her peers.
it really is that simple.

trial by jury might vindicate, it also might lead to a presidential pardon(i would be OK with that even from Bush) but it is not OK to pretend it's OK.

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When will MSNBC stop acting like brats and lay off Ms. California? Sheesh.

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Hannity’s Two-Week Silence: Is He Ready To Admit Waterboarding Is Torture?
On April 22, Fox News’ Sean Hannity volunteered to be waterboarded after ardently defending the practice and excoriating President Obama for ending the technique. “Clearly this president has not done his homework, and it is putting each and every American at risk,” Hannity said about ending torture. Declaring he is “for enhanced interrogation,” Hannity said he would happily consent to being waterboarded as a fundraiser “for the troops’ families.”

However, two weeks later, Hannity has yet to mention the promise again — despite the offer from MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann to help Hannity raise funds by donating $1,000 for every second Hannity is waterboarded.

As Olbermann has explained, the point would not be to watch Hannity suffer. Rather, it would be to prove to him — and perhaps his viewers — that waterboarding is in fact “cruel, inhuman” torture — that it is what an adviser on terrorism to the departments of Homeland Security, Special Operations, and Intelligence called “slow-motion suffocation.”

Indeed, the 2005 torture memo written by Steven Bradbury required the CIA to have a tracheotomy kit on hand to revive a detainee who had effectively drowned:

[A] detainee could suffer spasms of the larynx that would prevent him from breathing even when the application of water is stopped and the detainee is returned to an upright position. In the event of such spasms, a qualified physician would immediately intervene to address the problem, and, if necessary, the intervening physician would perform a tracheotomy. …we are informed that the necessary emergency medical equipment is always present - although not visible to the detainee — during any application of the waterboard.

A footnote to the memo warns, “for reasons of physical fatigue or psychological resignation, the subject may simply give up, allowing excessive filling of the airways,” and “aggressive medical intervention” may be required to restore breathing. And yet Hannity continues to insist, “It’s not drowning.”

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quote:
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MSNBC has got to have the most pro-gay open agenda ever.

And that is wrong why? If they were being anti-gay you wouldn't be b*tching right now. Kind of makes you a hyprocrite of sorts.
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Looks like the ones calling others ignorant are the ignorant ones themselves!
Look in the mirror when you say that. Stop Mooing...

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
When will MSNBC stop acting like brats and lay off Ms. California? Sheesh.

When you stop being a brat on this board and lay off the Dems/Obama... fair enough trade off no? Could you do that? [Big Grin] [Razz]

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Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura volunteers to waterboard Cheney.By Satyam Khanna on May 12th, 2009 at 3:13 pm Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura volunteers to waterboard Cheney.
One of the most repeated lines from conservatives in the debate over interrogations is that waterboarding is not torture because it is performed on U.S. troops as part of training. Yesterday on CNN’s Larry King Live, former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura — a former Navy SEAL who has been waterboarded — poured cold water on this talking point, saying that waterboarding is in fact “drowning.” Ventura said he could waterboard Vice President Cheney and get him to admit to anything:

KING: You were a Navy SEAL.

VENTURA: That’s right. I was water boarded, so I know — at SERE School, Survival Escape Resistance Evasion. It was a required school you had to go to prior to going into the combat zone, which in my era was Vietnam. All of us had to go there. We were all, in essence — every one of us was water boarded. It is torture.

KING: What was it like?

VENTURA: It’s drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you — I’ll put it to you this way, you give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I’ll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.

Now its Cheney's turn in the bucket

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Olbermann Rescinds Charity Offer For Cowardly Hannity, Donates $10K For Mancow’s Waterboarding »
Last month on his Fox News show, torture enthusiast Sean Hannity claimed he would agree to be waterboarded “for charity…for the troops’s families.” MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann immediately took up Hannity’s pledge, offering $1,000 to charity for every second Hannity withstood waterboarding.

Over the next 30 days, Hannity went completely silent on his pledge, opting not to go anywhere near the subject of waterboarding again. Olbermann repeatedly reminded Hannity of his pledge to donate to charity in his name, but to no avail.

Last night on Countdown, Olbermann announced that he was rescinding the offer to Hannity, and instead giving $10,000 to charity following radio host Erich “Mancow” Muller’s waterboarding attempt. Olbermann promised to donate to the charity Veterans of Valor, founded by Sgt. Klay South, who administered the waterboarding to Muller. Olbermann revealed that Mancow’s publicist had contacted Olbermann’s show yesterday to see whether Olbermann would make a similar offer to Mancow as he did for Hannity:

OLBERMANN: Mancow Muller had the guts to put his mouth where his mouth was, and the guts to admit he was dead wrong. As you saw, he not only said it is torture, but that he had nearly drowned as a boy, and it is drowning, and that he would have admitted to anything to make it stop.

So the offer to the coward Hannity — a thousand dollars a second he lasted on the waterboard — is withdrawn.

And to Mr. Muller, whose station’s publicity person contacted us yesterday saying she’d heard I’d offered ten thousand dollars to anybody who would do what he did –

You got it. Ten thousand dollars to the military-families charity of the man who did the waterboarding, Veterans Of Valor. [...]

As to Hannity, you are now unnecessary

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