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today's race had a great finish. Hope tomorrow is even better.
Tony Stewart wins driving Hendrick eqpt. I expect another Hendrick car to win tomorrow. Hope it's Mark Martin [Big Grin]

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Kyle Busch has to be pissed...Jr. was not even on the lead lap when he clipped Vickers...
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yeah that race was disappointing all around...

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the attendance at Nascar was breaking all reocrds until this year:

Notes: Good weather can't save Atlanta attendance
By The Associated Press
Observers estimated the stands were no more than two-thirds filled for the NASCAR event, and total capacity is about 125,000. The listed attendance was 94,400.


http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/03/09/post.race.atlanta.notes.ap/i ndex.html

tix are still available for Bristol


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So are you going?
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no i have a big show two days day before and i have to take one of the brats to a Karate tournament (in the opposite direction) that saturday..

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Me either, I'll always love the Bristol race, but NASCAR has lost me with all the changes they've made.
I have been twice, a pretty good while back. Sat in some Kodak seats. I was so close I could see Earnhardt Sr.'s mustache as he drove around the track.
By the end of the race I was covered up in burnt rubber and beer. That was so awesome.
I even got in the Pits before the race. It was cool seeing Richard Petty so close up.

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it's amazing that no fans were killed today.

Nascar proves again that they have their heads up their azzes.

last year? the guy that passed below the yellow line to win was avoiding causing this exact same type of wreck. they took the win away from him for being safer. this is what Nascar gets fro being jerkoffs.

last year, some drivers were under the impression that the yellow line rule was suspended on the last lap for this very reason.

somebody dying in the stands today would likely end auto racing at this type of track, and maybe they should have ended it at this type years ago for this reason.

i don't like th randomness of 'dega and Daytona anyway. they surely should not be points races.

i saw parts go into the crowd despite what the announcers said.

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boring sport.. only time it is exciting is when there is a crash or someone gets hurt...

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this'll prolly be all over the news


http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2009/04/26/cup.tal.high.final.nascar/index.html? MostPopular

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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
boring sport.. only time it is exciting is when there is a crash or someone gets hurt...

LOL... 40 man teams? one man makes a mistake? you lose..

one against 42 others?

it's only boring to people who don't understand it, and it takes years to understand it.

alot of car racing is boring with little passing (formula one? half a dozen passes per race, yawn), but NASCAR has the top dozen attended events (of any kind) every year... so somebody finds it interesting.

i liked it better when there were fewer fans.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
boring sport.. only time it is exciting is when there is a crash or someone gets hurt...

LOL... 40 man teams? one man makes a mistake? you lose..

one against 42 others?

it's only boring to people who don't understand it, and it takes years to understand it.

alot of car racing is boring with little passing (formula one? half a dozen passes per race, yawn), but NASCAR has the top dozen attended events (of any kind) every year... so somebody finds it interesting.

i liked it better when there were fewer fans.

I understand it, i just find it boring watching cars go around a track 200 times unless there is a crash or death. Much like Hockey. I find it boring unless there is a fight between players. Americans or humans by nature are voyeuristic. We like to see accidents on the side of the road.

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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
boring sport.. only time it is exciting is when there is a crash or someone gets hurt...

LOL... 40 man teams? one man makes a mistake? you lose..

one against 42 others?

it's only boring to people who don't understand it, and it takes years to understand it.

alot of car racing is boring with little passing (formula one? half a dozen passes per race, yawn), but NASCAR has the top dozen attended events (of any kind) every year... so somebody finds it interesting.

i liked it better when there were fewer fans.

I understand it, i just find it boring watching cars go around a track 200 times unless there is a crash or death. Much like Hockey. I find it boring unless there is a fight between players. Americans or humans by nature are voyeuristic. We like to see accidents on the side of the road.
Well, just to screw with you Mach. This quote from your post: "I understand it, i just find it boring watching cars go around a track 200 times unless there is a crash or death."

After all that crap you espoused about the poor civvie who got offed at the radar station, but your fine with the death of a NASCAR driver? Guess that's just entertainment right? [BadOne]

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Did i say a driver? Quote me if i did. [Wink] But there is a difference. A "radar operator" who clocks cars speeds hardly thinks he will be murdered unlike a race car driver going around a track 200 miles per hour. Which one thinks he is most likely to die and accepts the risks and thinks what he does is entertainment regardless? [Big Grin]

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A "radar operator" who clocks cars speeds hardly thinks he will be murdered unlike a race car driver going around a track 200 miles per hour. Which one thinks he is most likely to die and accepts the risks and thinks what he does is entertainment regardless?

glad to know you agree with ME [Smile] that's exacl;ty MY point about the difference between a cop doing law enforcement and a contractor doing law enforcemnt. (accepts the risks)

i want a cop doing it, and i have good reasons for that even if you refuse to acknowledge them.

saying you undersatnad how to adjust a car to handle at 200Mph is a bit of BS unless you are apro. i understand the principles but only because actually raced in the dirt tacks for several years, and dirt cars setups are complelety different than pavement cAR setups so i don't even claim to know what they do, and other teams don't even know what other teams do that's how they find out who's the best. [Wink]

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quote:
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glad to know you agree with ME [Smile] that's exacl;ty MY point about the difference between a cop doing law enforcement and a contractor doing law enforcemnt. (accepts the risks)

i want a cop doing it, and i have good reasons for that even if you refuse to acknowledge them.

What did i agree to exactly? I pretty much said both cop and private know the risks of the job they do. Just one is paid less then the other. Both are trained equally imo. Your only conflict really with this topic is you do not want the cops losing their jobs to outsourcing. [Razz] and not because one is more trained then the other etc.

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saying you undersatnad how to adjust a car to handle at 200Mph is a bit of BS unless you are apro. i understand the principles but only because actually raced in the dirt tacks for several years, and dirt cars setups are complelety different than pavement cAR setups so i don't even claim to know what they do, and other teams don't even know what other teams do that's how they find out who's the best. [Wink]
I'm no expert but I would say the teams being next to each other on a track they are aware what each other do.

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I'm no expert but I would say the teams being next to each other on a track they are aware what each other do.

dude, you came off to me as flip about the sport being boring.

what if i told you that a deviation of 1/2 of an inch on the end of one spring coil on one car in one race out of 34 cost a guy a championship?

what if itold you his team just buys the springs from a manufacturer and puts them on the car?

that means every single part of every car is inspected by a specialist who knows the rules?

if we spent the kind of energy and passion in everyday business that these people put into their work? it would be pretty unreal what we could do.

these guys sit next to each other but they do not know what the others are doing.

back in the very early 90's? Bill Elliot went on a big string of wins before they caught on to what he did and changed the rules.

it was real simple, and real hard to detect. they bent the rear axle housing to make his car turn faster. it's against the rules now.

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so, the followup is that 7 spectators were hurt.

next year they'll let 'em pass below the yellow line on the final lap i bet, and the guy who did it last last year is a loser for having more common sense than owners of the races.

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they just asked some of the drivers which concerts were their favorites.(this weekend is the rock-n-roll 400)

Mark Martin cuts a big ole grin and says AC/DC [Big Grin]

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speaking of too big to fail? another sign of the times?


Finally, NASCAR's merger mania comes to an end

By David Caraviello, NASCAR.COM
September 30, 2009
10:24 AM EDT

HOMESTEAD, Fla., Nov. 22, 2015 -- Fireworks pierced the South Florida night sky as the new champion stood on the makeshift stage, hugging his silver trophy. It had been a long journey for Joey Logano, from all those teen-aged expectations to those trying first few years on NASCAR's premier circuit to this, the manifestation of greatness that so many had thought possible. Flashbulbs popped and confetti floated and giant champagne bottles were uncorked as the young driver held the Sprint Cup victoriously over his head.

At last, he stepped to the microphone. "I'd like to thank my teammates," the new champion said. "All 34 of them."

Indeed, it was a watershed day in more ways than one. The evening marked not only the first championship for Logano, but also the first for NASCAR's new megateam, the result of all the sponsorship shortages and declining manufacturer support that forced one merger after another. The 35-car behemoth -- officially called Hendrick-Earnhardt-Roush-Stewart-Childress-Haas-Penske-Petty-Gibbs-Toyota Motorsports with Felix Sabates, but known as HERSCH for short -- came to Homestead-Miami Speedway with the title virtually secured. Logano needed only an 18th-place finish to claim the championship, and despite his poor qualifying effort, he got it after each of his teammates dutifully moved out of the way.

The new organization has been controversial, to say the least. Detractors say having so many cars under one roof naturally has an adverse effect on competition, while the co-team owners involved claim it was the only way for them to remain competitive. The result has been starting fields featuring a few single-car holdouts like Robby Gordon, a handful of start-and-parkers, and 35 vehicles competing under the HERSCH banner. Carl Kiekhaefer's record of 16 consecutive victories by a single organization -- a mark set in 1956 and thought unbreakable -- went down in race No. 17. (Continued)



http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/opinion/09/30/inside.line.dcaraviello.merger.man ia/index.html

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