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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.
The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under by the Presidential Records Act.
The Bush administration's legal position "heightens the court's concern" that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.
A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Cheney and the Executive Office of the President in an effort to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.
In a 22-page opinion, the judge revealed that in recent days, lawyers for the Bush administration balked at a proposed agreement between the two sides on how to proceed with the case.
Cheney and the other defendants in the case "were only willing to agree to a preservation order that tracked their narrowed interpretation" of the Presidential Records Act, wrote Kollar-Kotelly.
The administration, said the judge, wanted any court order on what records are at issue in the suit to cover only the office of the vice president, not Cheney or the other defendants in the lawsuit. The other defendants include the National Archives and the archivist of the United States.
In response to the ruling, Cheney spokesman James R. Hennigan said that "we will not have any comment on pending litigation."
The lawsuit stems from Cheney's position that his office is not part of the executive branch of government.
This summer, Cheney chief of staff David Addington told Congress the vice president belongs to neither the executive nor legislative branch of government, but rather is attached by the Constitution to Congress. The vice president presides over the Senate.
The lawsuit alleges that the Bush administration's actions over the past 7 1/2 years raise questions over whether the White House will turn over records created by Cheney and his staff to the National Archives in January.
In 2003, Cheney asserted that the office of the vice president is not an entity within the executive branch.
Two historians and three groups of historians and archivists joined CREW in filing the suit two weeks ago.
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Those crooks don't respect the law, so what good will it do.
They will burn or alter whatever is there in order to hide the facts, because they have routinely violated the Constitution and legislation and still thumb their noses at them. In their minds, once they are out of office and control, they stand the chance of prison (as they should), so why leave any potential evidence.
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You might as well learn to live with the fact that chenny and the whole bunch will live a long life living in luxury.
And if they call them on anything Bush will pardon them.
Why do you think pelosi and all the turn coats did not impeech. I tell you why a president that is under active impeechnment does not have the right to pardon.
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quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: So Bond006...are you saying that you believe the Dems are just as crooked as the Reps?
You can't resist misquoting anyone on anything to make the republican crooks look better, can ya?
Just because you don't actually utter the words of the lie you imply doesn't excuse you for telling the lie.
I wasn't looking for your input fudge...I already know how closed your simple mind is...thanks.
Of course you weren't looking for my input.
All you are interested in is promoting the lies you parrot from the RNC. Your's is a hopeless and pitiful excuse for any thing to compare with an open mind, since neither your honesty or integrity attains a level sufficient for measurability. You enthusiastically pass on any lie that you imagine will cause some ignorant or illiterate to vote republican and you prefer those that are pure and intentional character assignation.
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quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: So Bond006...are you saying that you believe the Dems are just as crooked as the Reps?
You can't resist misquoting anyone on anything to make the republican crooks look better, can ya?
Just because you don't actually utter the words of the lie you imply doesn't excuse you for telling the lie.
I wasn't looking for your input fudge...I already know how closed your simple mind is...thanks.
Of course you weren't looking for my input.
All you are interested in is promoting the lies you parrot from the RNC. Your's is a hopeless and pitiful excuse for any thing to compare with an open mind, since neither your honesty or integrity attains a level sufficient for measurability. You enthusiastically pass on any lie that you imagine will cause some ignorant or illiterate to vote republican and you prefer those that are pure and intentional character assignation.
And you are a piss poor listener...I am NOT voting for either candidate, and I could care less who anyone else votes for...the results will be the same...
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: So Bond006...are you saying that you believe the Dems are just as crooked as the Reps?
You can't resist misquoting anyone on anything to make the republican crooks look better, can ya?
Just because you don't actually utter the words of the lie you imply doesn't excuse you for telling the lie.
I wasn't looking for your input fudge...I already know how closed your simple mind is...thanks.
Of course you weren't looking for my input.
All you are interested in is promoting the lies you parrot from the RNC. Your's is a hopeless and pitiful excuse for any thing to compare with an open mind, since neither your honesty or integrity attains a level sufficient for measurability. You enthusiastically pass on any lie that you imagine will cause some ignorant or illiterate to vote republican and you prefer those that are pure and intentional character assignation.
And you are a piss poor listener...I am NOT voting for either candidate, and I could care less who anyone else votes for...the results will be the same...
Not trying to get involved in your guy's argument, but I have a question per your last post.
How does you're abstaining from voting make an impact? What's the point of that? The "do nothing" attitude is sickening in my view. If ya don't like McCain or Obama, vote for one of the other myriad party's running. Just to sit there and do nothing is idiotic in my opinion. And as I said, just my opinion.
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Not trying to get involved in your guy's argument, but I have a question per your last post.
How does you're abstaining from voting make an impact? What's the point of that? The "do nothing" attitude is sickening in my view. If ya don't like McCain or Obama, vote for one of the other myriad party's running. Just to sit there and do nothing is idiotic in my opinion. And as I said, just my opinion.
Exactlly... I wonder how many "do nothings" caused Bush to be put into office the 2nd time... and if it would of had affected the outcome of the election had they "done something"... what ticks me off is when the "do nothings" whine and complain about the state of affairs in this country way after the elections when they did nothing to begin with and make their vote count... to me they do not deserve to say anything...
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