Sounds to me like he intends to invade a few more sovereign nations.
Wonder where he plans to get the money for the troops and equipment?
Oh yes, I see. By selling all that off shore oil he plans to get with all that drilling! Now why didn't I think of that? Why didn't dubya or Bill?
Oh, I don't see, you say. Ain't that much oil there? Oh, yes, I see what you say....he borrows it from the Chinese, just like dubya did to invade Iraq. Cleaver, these republicans....
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not to mention also dig us into a bigger budget deficit then we already are in... one thing about Republicans I have to love... is how they always advocate cutting taxes here and there but when they do they go on a spending spree that gets us in a world of sh*t deficit.... then when the Left HAS to raise taxes to balance the budget the Left are the bad guys in that regards...
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quote:Oh yes, I see. By selling all that off shore oil he plans to get with all that drilling! Now why didn't I think of that? Why didn't dubya or Bill?
You're absolutely right Bdgee. We absolutely should start drilling EVERYWHERE in the United States that there is commercially viable oil. In addition, we should fully exploit nuclear, wind, shale, natural gas, and everything else that will allow us to keep that $700 billion per year that we're currently sending to our enemies!!!
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I never uggested we "should start drilling EVERYWHERE in the United States that there is commercially viable oil."
Indeed, we need to stop MOST of the drilling we do now for oil (not necessarily gas) in the US and require that the majority of the monies that would have been invested to drill for oil go into alternative forms of energy production, with most of it spent to facilitate the use of hydrogen for transportation and we need to have legislation that requires the oil companies to spend their moneyHERE instead of in other parts of the world. We gain little or nothing from continuing drilling dwindling petroleum reserve that is proven to be relatively minuscule compared to the needs of the Nation. (Anyway, the value of petroleum for making plastics is too great to burn it up to take little Johnny to his soccer game six blocks from the house and he needs to walk there and burn off the flab he has from being a pampered couch potato......so does mama...)
Money spent here on research and development of alternative energy will create jobs and economic stability for the nation,. Then, in the long run, the products and knowledge gained through that research will become major products we can sell to the world (assuming that we do it now rather than wait for China and the Scandinavian countries, who have a big head start, to do it instead of us).
In the mean time, about any way (other than fostering the absurd and fallacious notions that drilling for oil will help our economy or that nuclear power is a viable and acceptable alternative to using petroleum in the same old ways we have for over a century) is something we need to do.
Probably, we need to put forth some method of teaching (that is spend some funds to inform the ill-prepared and undereducated that) in energy production, the United states cannot advance beyond drill and burn idiocy. (You should be among the first required to matriculate.)
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quote:Indeed, we need to stop MOST of the drilling we do now for oil (not necessarily gas) in the US and require that the majority of the monies that would have been invested to drill for oil go into alternative forms of energy production, with most of it spent to facilitate the use of hydrogen for transportation and we need to have legislation that requires the oil companies to spend their money HERE instead of in other parts of the world.
You're showing your socialist stripes again Bdgee. Here's a little refresher in capitalism: it is NOT the purpose of the government to tell business where they must spend their money - such as the oil business. The oil companies should be free to spend their money WHEREVER they want. The purpose of business is to make money, not advance some wacko agenda.
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You are showing your failure (or unwillingness maybe) to learn or to understand.
You have no idea what socialism is, let alone what a socialist is.
SOCIALISM IS NOT whatever the repulican party isn't.
Socialism is your city or your county or state or the federal government building and maintaining airports an highways.
It's public water supply and the effort to assure it is dinkble and safe.
It's spending the money to enact and enforce legislation lowering the speed limit in school zones.
It's making the March of Dimes tax free organization.
It's everything and anything any of our governments does to make your life safe and easier.
It's the fundamental thing that makes it possible for social leach such as you to make a living as you do, for without that attention to the "general welfare" (read the Constitution, for God's sake!!!), you would have no infrastructure to work within or depend on and the whole technique and philosophy of your line of work would collapse.
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quote:Indeed, we need to stop MOST of the drilling we do now for oil (not necessarily gas) in the US and require that the majority of the monies that would have been invested to drill for oil go into alternative forms of energy production, with most of it spent to facilitate the use of hydrogen for transportation and we need to have legislation that requires the oil companies to spend their money HERE instead of in other parts of the world.
You're showing your socialist stripes again Bdgee. Here's a little refresher in capitalism: it is NOT the purpose of the government to tell business where they must spend their money - such as the oil business. The oil companies should be free to spend their money WHEREVER they want. The purpose of business is to make money, not advance some wacko agenda.
I have to agree 100% with you on this one PM. Word for word!
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quote:Indeed, we need to stop MOST of the drilling we do now for oil (not necessarily gas) in the US and require that the majority of the monies that would have been invested to drill for oil go into alternative forms of energy production, with most of it spent to facilitate the use of hydrogen for transportation and we need to have legislation that requires the oil companies to spend their money HERE instead of in other parts of the world.
You're showing your socialist stripes again Bdgee. Here's a little refresher in capitalism: it is NOT the purpose of the government to tell business where they must spend their money - such as the oil business. The oil companies should be free to spend their money WHEREVER they want. The purpose of business is to make money, not advance some wacko agenda.
I have to agree 100% with you on this one PM. Word for word!
Now let's get right down to the nitty-gritty.
You seem to think that there is some provision in the Constitution that recognizes capitalism and makes it or the recognition of it the law of the land. I'm sorry, but that is hogwash.
Moreover, there is NOTHING in the Constitution stating that there should even be a "business", let alone any provision claiming the government can't or shouldn't regulate any that are there, whatever philosophy you profess or choose.
According to the Constitution it is a function of the Government to assure that anything functioning within this Nation does so with the welfare of the people primarily in sight. There is no part of the Constitution granting any citizenship right or privilege to any business and particularly not those you are assigning.
The Constitution does not recognize any right to make money, not to the oil industry and not to you or me or anyone or anything else. You profess an agenda the Constitution does not recognize.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Note that there is nothing therein that even suggest that among the purposes is to allow anything like a profit to anyone or recognizes the the existence of a business. What you profess is not American, it is a simple minded abuse of the Constitution.
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Why don't we just send our paycheck to the government and let them send back what they think we need. Were all just a bunch of dum schmucks and shouldn't have the opportunity to prosper in this society. And if we do we should be beaten down for trying.
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