quote:Originally posted by andrew: Isreal is propably warming the jet engines as we speak.
Just going to get worse. I predict Isreal air strike within 2 weeks.
Let's hope not! Our ships and sailors in the Gulf will take the brunt of Iran's response. How about something new? Like no new dead US servicemen/women for oil? I know it's a radical idea....but how about we give it a go?
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quote:Originally posted by andrew: Isreal is propably warming the jet engines as we speak.
Just going to get worse. I predict Isreal air strike within 2 weeks.
If we let the Israelis do the job (and they usually do a better job then us) we can save our soldiers lives and $12 Billion a month... btw if this happens stock up on oil stocks and related stocks...
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quote:Originally posted by andrew: Isreal is propably warming the jet engines as we speak.
Just going to get worse. I predict Isreal air strike within 2 weeks.
If we let the Israelis do the job (and they usually do a better job then us) we can save our soldiers lives and $12 Billion a month... btw if this happens stock up on oil stocks and related stocks...
Israel cannot strike Iran without our help. Would cause a global disaster. The whole world will suffer if Iran is attacked. It cannot happen! If it does then maybe we are not as smart as I thought. (Israel will not strike Iran without our approval) Altho maybe Bush wants to go out with a bang!
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Israel doesn't need our approval... they didn't then and they certainly don't now... if you haven't noticed Israel does whatever the f*ck they want throughout their history lol they just take our advice under advisement... Iran is more a threat to them then to anyone else...
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quote:Let's hope not! Our ships and sailors in the Gulf will take the brunt of Iran's response. How about something new? Like no new dead US servicemen/women for oil? I know it's a radical idea....but how about we give it a go?
That's just silly. Blood for oil? Give me a break. Israel MUST act if they want to exist - it's as simple as that. All the appeasement in the world isn't going to stop Iran from destroying Israel if nothing is done.
quote:The whole world will suffer if Iran is attacked. It cannot happen! If it does then maybe we are not as smart as I thought.
The whole attack will be over in a very short period of time - I'm betting one day. It will have no effect on the whole world, except an oil shock that lasts a week or two. Iran will do nothing and certainly can't cut off oil to the world (unless they want their economy to collapse).
quote:either way? Iran will blame US if they have any govt left
Not to worry. There won't be a single Iranian government official harmed. It's not considered nice to kill government officials. No-one killed Hitler and no one will kill President Nut-Job from Iran.
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quote:The whole world will suffer if Iran is attacked. It cannot happen! If it does then maybe we are not as smart as I thought.
The whole attack will be over in a very short period of time - I'm betting one day. It will have no effect on the whole world, except an oil shock that lasts a week or two. Iran will do nothing and certainly can't cut off oil to the world (unless they want their economy to collapse).
THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SUFFER!!!!!!!! MOSTLY THE POOR!! WITH A GAS SPIKE FOOD WILL GO THREW THE ROOF! STARTING A WAR ON FUTURE EVENTS IS IRRESPONSIBLE. Never mind I forgot just like Iraq had weapons of mass destruction! I dont believe Iran is as close as Israel is claiming. Just want to take care of this while Bush is still in office.
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quote:STARTING A WAR ON FUTURE EVENTS IS IRRESPONSIBLE.
That's good thinking - let's wait until a nuke wipes Israel off the map as Ahmadinejad is promising! Or do you pacifists want to wait until a nuke goes off in NYC, so that you can complain that we didn't connect the dots?
quote:Never mind I forgot just like Iraq had weapons of mass destruction!
Of course they did. They used chemical weapons on their own people. And let's not forget the 550 metric tons of yellowcake that the US finally removed from Iraq this week. What do you suppose that yellowcake was intended for?
quote:I dont believe Iran is as close as Israel is claiming. Just want to take care of this while Bush is still in office.
They MUST take care of this while Bush is in office. Israel can't take the chance that we have President Barack Hussein Obama who won't support them!!!
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What do you suppose that yellowcake was intended for?
glow in the dark motzah?
They MUST take care of this while Bush is in office. Israel can't take the chance that we have President Barack Hussein Obama who won't support them!!!
that's too much!
Bush has been wagging his tongue at them for 8 years already... and they just kept going...
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You clearly don't understand what is going to happen. There is not going to be a war - not even a skirmish. The Israelis will drop a bunch of bombs and the Iranians will not put up much (if any) fight. They can't or they will be destroyed.
We MUST stop that Iranian nut-job before he gets nukes! This is just like the period before WW2. We have the chance to stop the next "hitler", the question is "WILL WE"? The last time when the world didn't act, 6 million Jews died as did millions of others. Will the appeasers win out again forcing another world war?
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He's not the next Hitler. He's not even the one in charge. The missiles he launched were not what they claimed them to be. They are putting on a show to protect against an attack which has been telegraphed for years. Funny that we would feel the need to attack Iran for threats they made, when it is us not only making threats but actually acting on them. If you can't see that the US is on some world conquering mission then I fear you can't see your nose in front of you.
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Hitler invaded half of Europe before we finally acted in WW2. Iran crosses its borders and yeah, we'll help push em back, but until then you give Amanutjob WAY too much credit.
I do agree with you in one sense...there would be no need for a ground war to take out nuclear capabilities.
BUT...Iran is a leader in the Shiite world. One of only three or four countries where Shiites make up the majority population. While the most Iran may be able to do in immediate response is a few missiles, what about Hezbollah in Lebanon? Jihad declared in Bahrain? It could spark the Shiite population in Iraq undoing all progress over the past years in a heartbeat. An overthrow of the Washington friendly Sunni leaders in Saudi Arabia?
You MUST understand that over in the Middle East religious affiliation is an identifier much stronger than nationalism.
Here it might be...I am an (1)American, (2)Christian, (3)Ohioan..
Over there it is I am a (1)Sunni, (2)Muslim, (3)Pakistani.
More over, they have been persecuting each other based on religious affiliation for centuries and now the Muslim faith believes the USA is persecuting them as well, especially the Shiite population.
By supporting the Shiite we alienate the Sunni and by supporting the Sunni we alienate the Shiite. Though the Shiite is the more militant group, historically they are also the mostly minority population that has been persecuted against the most. (Except the Kurds but that's a different story.)
Bush didn't care about any of these nuances and put us in the middle and now we ALL have to understand them if we want to get ourselves out of this mess without sparking a conflagration across the width and breadth of the Middle East.
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I know what we can do lets send Powell back to the U.N. with his third grade illistrations again and let him flip the pages and say here is the proof.
Lets go get the Bums boomb,bomb,and boomb.
Now we need troops on the ground who's up National Guardsman how about another 5 tours for you boy, up to it.
PS: Don't you dare hurt an oil well and remember we have to kill loads of them in order to save them.
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Hitler was in charge of a country before WW II that had the biggest and best equiped military machine in the world A-1 troops motivated and the best officer class in the world. That revolutionized warfare.
Iran is a third world pos with press gang soldiers and a corrupt officer class. They are completely armed with garbage compared to us. There missile's pose no real threat to us.
The only reason to attack them is to steal there natural resources and to dominate that region of the world.
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i wonder what Iran is planning to do if it drops again tomorrow? they are already walking a very fine line right now:
Iranian national oil company: Total to remain committed to Iran projects www.chinaview.cn 2008-07-15 18:29:33
TEHRAN, July 15 (Xinhua) -- National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC)on Tuesday rejected reports about French energy giant Total's withdrawal from the nation's South Pars gas deal, saying it has officially announced that it would carry out its commitments in Iran's oil industry.
"Total had been previously active in Iran's oil industry and promised to participate in the development of Phase 11 of the South Pars gas field," an NIOC official was quoted as saying by the English-language satellite channel Press TV.
Total reportedly announced last week the company's withdrawal from a multi-billion dollar deal to develop Phase 11 of Iran's South Pars gas field, saying it found further investments in Iran too risky.
Later on Saturday, the group said Iran is one of the most important countries for the world's energy market and expressed Total's interest in participating in future projects pertaining to the development the South Pars gas field.
The South Pars field has around 14 trillion cubic meters of gas, which accounts for about 8 percent of the world gas reserves.
“Total’s Leaving Iran Result of West’s Satanic Games” - NIOC 15.07.08 17:32
Azerbaijan, Baku, 15 July /Trend Capital/ “Managing Director of National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC) Seifollah Jashnsaz said the reports that France’s Total had left Iran’s oil industry are false,” Iran’s IRINN news agency reported.
“Total’s President sent an official letter in which he stated that he would remain committed to his obligations for Iran’s oil industry,” Jashnsaz said at Iran & Russia: Step to Prosperity of Oil Industry round table at IRINN on 15 July.
Jashnsaz said the reports that French Total had left Iran’s oil industry are the satanic games of the West.
On 9 July, Total’s President Christophe de Margerie said to Financial Times that his company would not invest in development of Iran’s South Pars gas field any more due to a dangerous political situation in the region. Amount of Total’s investments in the field was not divulged.
Total has been developing NIOC-operated South Pars since 1997. South Pars was discovered in 1990. Its development consists of 25 stages. Field’s mineable reserves are assessed at 13-15trln cu m.
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oil still going down? wow, maybe this is why?
Taming the hawk
Washington's decision to talk to Iran is a significant shift in US foreign policy # #
* Simon Tisdall * guardian.co.uk, * Thursday July 17, 2008 * Article history
It may be too early to proclaim an end to the "Cheney era", but Washington's decision to participate in Saturday's nuclear talks with Iran and send diplomats back to Tehran is a very significant shift. It marks a nadir for the gun-toting neoconservatives who dominated the first Bush term and for their unofficial champion, vice-president Dick Cheney, the stealthy advice-giver also known as "whispering grass".
Noisy sabre-rattling and a crescendo of shouted threats exchanged by Iran and Israel in recent weeks convinced many observers that the Middle East was on the brink of a new conflagration. They feared a "second Iraq" was in the making, again triggered by worries about real or imagined weapons of mass destruction.
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