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You could never get him to admit anything Glass...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
OK, so you admit that not all leftists are pantywaists? [Big Grin]

Of course not all leftists are pantywaists, Glass.

Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Chavez, Castro.

They were all tough.

Insane. But tough.

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Hitler was not a leftist.

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So right Hitler was a Fascist thats when the corporations become the state.

There was not a bigger anti communist than Hitler.

As a matter of fact it was the anti communist mind set that was the common ground for the Chamberlin Hitler pact that got the British and French in trouble.

Hitler promised to go east and wipe out the Russians as long as Britian and France could be counted on for material support and a peaceful co existance.

Guess what he lied.

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A politician lie? nahhh lol

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Hitler was not a leftist.

Point conceded.

Exchange his name for Chariman Mao.

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good choice;
Mao killed 10's of millions.

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Don't forget the U.S. Glass (article i PM'd you).. responsible for just as much deaths directly or indirectly regardless of whose Prez...

Anyways here's some food for thought "Seeking Freedom" (sorry just reading that name makes me laugh lol):

New York should never have a death penalty
BY DAVID KACZYNSKI | David Kaczynski is executive director of New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty.
July 10, 2008


A judge this month is expected to close the books on the case of Martin Tankleff, who served 17 years in prison for the 1988 murder of his parents. While lawyers working for Attorney General Andrew Cuomo stopped short of saying that Tankleff was innocent of the crime, it is clear that his conviction on shaky, contradictory evidence - including an apparently coerced confession - is not an aberration in our state.

As Tankleff said in an interview with the news channel New York 1: "I wouldn't be here if New York had a death penalty in 1988."

You have to wonder why anyone would support the death penalty knowing that innocent people could be convicted and put to death. But that is exactly what the State Senate, now led by Sen. Dean Skelos (R-Rockville Centre), insists on trying to do.

Last month, senators voted again to reimpose the death penalty, knowing full well the measure had no chance of passing the Assembly or being signed into law by Gov. David Paterson.


And what the senators did before voting to restore capital punishment demonstrates just what an empty gesture they were making: They voted down an amendment that would have created a commission to study the kinds of commonsense reforms to the criminal justice system that would minimize the plague of wrongful convictions.

A report released late last year by the Innocence Project found that New York leads the nation in murder convictions overturned by DNA evidence since 2000. Since then, seven New Yorkers have walked free after doing hard time for murders that were committed by other people.

One of those cases freed Jeffrey Deskovic, who served 16 years in prison for a Peekskill murder he did not commit. Deskovic was convicted after he gave a false confession to police investigators who had pressed him for hours without a lawyer present - even though DNA evidence presented at trial pointed to another perpetrator, who eventually confessed to the murder after Deskovic's release.

DNA evidence is present in less than 15 percent of homicides, according the Innocence Project. One of the proposed reforms that the Senate rejected would have required the videotaping of custodial interrogations, which would have allowed juries to pass judgment after seeing the precise conditions under which defendants like Deskovic and Tankleff were questioned.

Wrongful convictions result from a variety of causes, including eyewitness mistakes and inadequate defense. Jose Garcia, for example, spent 15 years in prison after being convicted of a Bronx homicide based on an eyewitness identification, even though the murder was committed a day after he had been arrested in the Dominican Republic - a seemingly ironclad alibi that his lawyer did not check out.

Thanks to DNA, we know that the criminal justice system is fallible. Although the proposed reforms would help, even the best reforms cannot create a foolproof system as long as human beings are in charge. Unlike the death penalty, a sentence of life imprisonment without parole - which is favored by a majority of New Yorkers - can always be corrected once a mistake has been uncovered.

Capital punishment is a system that buries its worst mistakes. That's why Skelos and his colleagues should turn their attention to the kind of reforms that would reduce the number wrongful convictions.

And as a first step toward reform, they should let the death penalty rest in peace.

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Parole Officer Recommended Release of Vermont Girl's Sex Offender Uncle

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380541,00.html

Previous conviction for kidnapping\rape.

4 years in prison.

8 years probation.

Now a 12 year old is raped (repeatedly for many years according to one report) and dead.

Good thing the prison system works and our kids are safe.

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It don;'t work but all we do is watch them and keep control.

Its up to the whole criminal justice system to make it work.

And the ctizens of this country vote,vote,vote

I will be the first one to ask for funds for rehab and expansion got to work on over crowding first the the rest will follow.

If you are going to get tough don't btch when when we run out of room and when we run out of room don't btch when criminals get put back out on the street.

The only time when nations got rid of anti social types and did it effectivly is when they established out of the way colonies for them it worked most of the time.

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quote:
Originally posted by SeekingFreedom:

Good thing the prison system works and our kids are safe.

Like I said in previous posts they should get a MINIMUM of 25 years without parole and not this short prison sentences. All violent crimes such as rape, murder, child molestation, bank robberies etc. I do not agree with sentencing guidelines in this country excluding the Death Penalty.

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