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"For the first time, more than 200 of the world's leading climate scientists, losing their patience, urged government leaders to take radical action to slow global warming because "there is no time to lose."

A petition from at least 215 climate scientists calls for the world to cut in half greenhouse gas emissions by 2050."

"It's a grave crisis, and we need to do something real fast," said petition signer Jeff Severinghaus, a geosciences professor at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif. "I think the stakes are way way too high to be playing around."

The unprecedented petition includes scientists from more than 25 countries and shows that "the climate science community is essentially fed up," said signer Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in Canada. It includes many co-authors of the intergovernmental climate change panel reports, directors of major American and European climate science research institutions, a Nobel winner for atmospheric chemistry and a winner of a MacArthur "genius" award.

"A lot of us scientists think the problem needs a lot more serious attention than it's getting and the remedies have to be a lot more radical," said Richard Seager, a scientist at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_on_sc/climate_scientists_1

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_on_sc/bali_animals_in_flux_5
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oh no! We're all gonna die!

still up to no good bdgee?

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you know what's sad Urn? even Bush finally figured it out...

what do you need? for him to tell you that global warming is a real problem?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7408504973132978571

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quote:
Originally posted by urnso77:
oh no! We're all gonna die!

still up to no good bdgee?

Sorry to upset you uni, No harm intended.

You'll have to excuse us on this, because there just isn't any way to talk about global warming without at least a few 3 and 4 syllable words. If I knew of a way to make it simple minded so you guys could participate I'd sure do it. The topic requires thought beyond simple minded.

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Global warming is a scam!

See, bdgee, you can sum the whole thing up and never use a 3 or 4 syllable word.

Mike

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Global warming is a scam!

See, bdgee, you can sum the whole thing up and never use a 3 or 4 syllable word.

Mike

Yeah, but what you say is what you are required to put out by the RNC.

Those who are free to and can think know that is a political lie.

You need to learn to handle things that aren't given to you to regurgitate by pols that are dedicated to confusing the simplest minded into voting for lies......that is, if you aren't one of the simple minded that can't think well enough, due to genetic or educational limitations.

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bdgee bdgee bdgee,

[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Global warming is a scam!

See, bdgee, you can sum the whole thing up and never use a 3 or 4 syllable word.

Mike

LMAO!

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How preventive do we want to be as we spend more and more reacting to the preventable?

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quote:
Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY:
bdgee bdgee bdgee,

[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

you can roll your eyes all you want...but the fact remains .. the budge is correct! [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
How preventive do we want to be as we spend more and more reacting to the preventable?

this is the part that makes me angry.

there are so many opportunities to creat NEW wealth here. things that could equal Microsoft and Google, but they might change the direction of cash flow..
they surely won't stop cash flow...

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The far right is so intent on stopping any appropriate concern about global warming that they are blinded to the bluntly obvious opportunities to control the economy and the future development of the entire world through perfecting the necessary technology to do away with fossil fuel energy production before others do and leave us in the past and on the outside.
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"there are so many opportunities to creat NEW wealth here. things that could equal Microsoft and Google, but they might change the direction of cash flow..
they surely won't stop cash flow..."

We certainly don't want to create wealth. That's not the socialist way. Those evil corporations can't be allowed to make another cent (unless the government takes all the profit to give away to the lazy in more entitlements). Socialized medicine anyone?

Mike

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I would say you are blinded by the superabundance and redundance of the stilted platitudes you pass on forever and ever as if they were either rational or new.

Except they are not yours and they are old.

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bdgee,

I would suggest that you pursue your GED. Maybe you could learn to write something that makes sense.

Good Luck,

Mike

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Ha ha ha

In an infinity of time and with a constant maximum effort devoted thereto, it would be assinine to expect to be successful in "write(ing) something that makes sense" to those that can't or won't read or consider anything they haven't first and repeatedly heard as some right-wing political pomposity.

(Unless, of course, if one were willing to regurgitate some of that same narrow ultra-conservative bigoted sanctimonious tripe as if it were rational fact.)

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I think you made my point!

Mike

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Point?

That you are possibly deficient in the benifits education....or at least the exercise of its friuts and benifits?

Ha Ha Ha

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quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
How preventive do we want to be as we spend more and more reacting to the preventable?

You mean like how much we have spent in the last 5 years on homeland security and 60% of tests still get through screening?

I work in the field and can tell you firsthand that more than half the measures that homeland security and states have taken to assure our safety are worthless to a determined and pre-planned assault.

Even Britain with all their cameras is unlikely to stop an attack though they might be able to retrieve enough evidence after the fact to at least make sure the right people are punished.

Glass is right, there is enormous potential for wealth in the field.

My uncle has introduced me to a guy who has a small company up here...he pays his bills by going to area buildings and making them more energy efficient. The most interesting part is how he has the companies pay him. The amount for the work is figured like any construction job and they can pay outright if they want. The other option he gives them (for a small amount of interest added) is to pay the bill in monthly installments out of the money they are saving by being energy conscious. He averages out their heating/cooling/energy costs over two years to come up with a number and then they pay him that amount minus their monthly energy charges.

It's amazing how much some of these buildings were able to cut out of their overhead with just some common sense work from a guy who knows what he's doing.

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Factoring in the value of dollars in the 1940s and in the 1950s, 60, and 70s, the amounts om money spent on NASA through the last manned moon trip was a pittance compared to the cost of the Manhattan Project and, in both cases, it was all, 100%, pure government funds from out of OUR treasury in both cases. Socialism!

And the return to our society, thus, the people that supplied the money, on those investments (the money wasn't thought of as a financial investment, in either case) has been in the hundreds (maybe thousands) of trillions of dollars in each case already, and is still coming in, and will for many years to come.

I have no doubt that, even in the value of dollars today, for just a pittance compared to the cost of maintaining U.S. troops for any month in Iraq, a huge purely government funded and directed research and development project aimed at ending the use of fossil fuel for energy production would, like the manned space Program and the Manhatten Project, return the monetary investment at least a thousand fold within 40 to 50 years, while providing the human race a chance to survive.

Done now rather than waiting, the U.S. could come to dominate the world in non-polluting non-global-warming energy, thus saving it economically from the disaster that is otherwise inevitable due to a quickly industrializing Asia and regaining respect for us among the nations of the world.

Insist on staying with fossil fuel energy production and transportation and we will live in a second class society within the lifetime of many now alive.

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