Hillary is the leading candidate when it comes to accepting defense lobbyist money...
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton offered an unusual defense (video link courtesy Breitbart.tv) of a hated Washington insider caste -- lobbyists -- before an audience of political outsiders in Chicago Saturday, drawing boos from the audience at the YearlyKos Convention and offering an opening to her rivals.
“A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans,” the New York senator said in defense of her decision to accept campaign contributions from lobbyists. “They represent nurses, they represent social workers, yes, they represent corporations that employ a lot of people.”
“I don’t think, based on my 35 years of fighting for what I believe in, I don’t think anybody seriously believes I’m going to be influenced by a lobbyist,” Clinton
good article bdgee. are you a democrat? you might be a democrat if you like to have "relations" with your interns?
maybe you are beginning to understand that i am not trying to campaign for anybody?
whoever is in front? who ever wins? i'll be there pointing out what i don't agree with. it's that simple. i would love to be able to say vote for a woman, let's make history and for the better. but Hillary isn't the one i would choose.
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"maybe you are beginning to understand that i am not trying to campaign for anybody?"
Wonder why it is you go out of your way to point out blunders or positions that Clinton has made, declaring them to be such that she is unworthy of even being a candidate, when, with consideration of the exact same positions or errors, you manage to skip any mention of Guliani and Romney doing quite the same.
Now, don't get me wrong. I am not a supporter of Clinton (or at this time, anyone), but I do see that you are playing a different game when considering democrats and republicans.
Take, for example, the situation of being on or having stated differing positions on whether illegal aliens should be allowed to have a driver's license. Guliani and Romney have each insisted that they must and they must not. Where is your outrage?
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Sorry, but it only looks to be part of the republican campaign of hatred that has been going on since Kennedy beat Nixon.
You spend your time and energy passing trash that isn't true about any democrat that looks electable....swift boating, in other words. You trash Clinton but you ignore it if Guliani does exactly the same thing, which he has in spades, by the way.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Sorry, but it only looks to be part of the republican campaign of hatred that has been going on since Kennedy beat Nixon.
You spend your time and energy passing trash that isn't true about any democrat that looks electable....swift boating, in other words. You trash Clinton but you ignore it if Guliani does exactly the same thing, which he has in spades, by the way.
Giuliani? OK, he hired a bunch of Neo-Cons. he's off my list of acceptable candidates now too.
but i seriously don't think a GOP could win if the election was tomorrow, so ain't really worried about it..
i already said Hillary can do a better job than Bush... whadya want me to do gush over her or something?
at least Biden has a world-view that is actually rational... Hillary and Bush share very similar diplomatic attitudes. i've watched them both for awhile now.
as for spewing trash? you are the biggest trash talker here bdgee.
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Yed, I agree she has that problem, but not more than any of the others and only about i/10th as much as your favorite Guliani.
Whenever he's asked about anything he replies "9/11". That's how he answered the question of why he at one time speaks glowingly of driver's licnses for Illegals, then another time claims it is un-American to give them licenses. I'm still looking for some sort of similar outrage when he does the same stuff.
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i just toldja i been following Giulianni and he's hired several people that i don't like... as far as i'm concerned? the Dems get to choos e the next president as thing stand right now, and they are screwing up IMO...
Edwards easily beats beats any GOP candidate in national polls right now.
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the chads were an opportunity Tex. which BTW was the fault of a Dem run voting district.
if Bill hadn't disgraced the dems? then Gore vs Bush isn't a draw.
i couldn't beleive the GOP put dubya up there.
i actually watched the primary debates...
dubya didn't even know where China was on the map...
dubya just isn't very bright, which becomes painfully obvious every time he goes off the TV prompter/script.. he can't construct a proper sentence on his own.
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"i didn't vote for him, so i'm not saying that out of anything other than logic."
He did win in 00. The election in Florida was stolen by fraud in the count, then fraud by the republican party court.
There is absolutely no doubt that, were it legal, Bill Clinton could win again and could have in 00, so that assinine argument that he caused the republican crooks is absurd.
The 00 election was crooked and so was the one in 04.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: "i didn't vote for him, so i'm not saying that out of anything other than logic."
He did win in 00. The election in Florida was stolen by fraud in the count, then fraud by the republican party court.
There is absolutely no doubt that, were it legal, Bill Clinton could win again and could have in 00, so that assinine argument that he caused the republican crooks is absurd.
The 00 election was crooked and so was the one in 04.
yeah, i agree bdgee.. aand i am so paranoid that i think the "fix' is in for Hillary this time since they gotta switch parties once inawhile to make ti look good...
and? if the voting isn't + or - 1% they can't do much to massage the vote count.
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munch, i voted for Bush in '00. i voted for daddy Bush twice i voted for Dole i voted for Reagan.
and?
i know the '00 election was a blot upon democracy.
teh '04 election had too many anomolies or my taste too... it's not just ohio.. there were many statistical anomolies in FLA too... dozens of FLA counties had Bush the winner by almost the exact percentages of democrats to republicans... only thing is? the values were inverted.
i'll tell you something else, i was watching when Gore decided not to capitulate in the middle of the night, and i called my broker first thing the next morning and told them to liquidate my portfolio cuz of it.
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I would really like to see Gore/Obama. Just like the two and have no doubt they would win. Obama and Gore just strike as being more honest than Hillary. Even though I still think she is sexy.
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quote:Originally posted by HILANDER: I would really like to see Gore/Obama. Just like the two and have no doubt they would win. Obama and Gore just strike as being more honest than Hillary. Even though I still think she is sexy.
not as sexy as Martha Stewart tho..
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"I like 'em both, wouldn't know which one to choose if it ever came down to it."
Sounds like you are choosing.....choosing not to enjoy the delights of orgy.
Pat R. will be pleased and that is granting him victory he isn't worthy of (yeah, yeah, I know...shoulda been "of which he isn't worthy"....but it works). That creep is despicable.
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Pat endorsing rudy was kindof odd huh bdg? it caught me by surprise, i'd already decided that rudy was hiring too many neo-cons.
at some point soon? it should become apparent to even the hard-core GOP's that following Bush's diplomatic policies are steering US into a fifty year terror war.
Rudy is also gonna have a hard time with the Kerrick issues developing rapidly...
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