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It looks like htey got a legit argument....they shoulda just told SharpTon

JENA, La. - Thousands of chanting demonstrators filled the streets of this little Louisiana town Thursday in support of six black teenagers initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.


The crowd broke into chants of "Free the Jena Six" as the Rev. Al Sharpton arrived at the local courthouse with family members of the jailed teens.

Martin Luther King III, son of the slain civil rights leader, said the scene was reminiscent of earlier civil rights struggles. He said punishment of some sort may be in order for the six defendants, but "the justice system isn't applied the same to all crimes and all people."

The six teens were charged shortly after the local prosecutor declined to charge three white teens who hung nooses in a tree on their high school grounds. Five of the black teens were initially charged with attempted murder, but that charge was reduced to battery for all but one, who has yet to be arraigned; the sixth was charged as a juvenile.

"This is the most blatant example of disparity in the justice system that we've seen," Sharpton told CBS's "The Early Show" before arriving in Jena. "You can't have two standards of justice."

"We didn't bring race into it," he said. "Those that hung the nooses brought the race into it."

Sharpton, who helped organized the rally, said this could be the beginning of the 21st century's civil rights movement, one that would challenge disparities in the justice system.

The district attorney who is prosecution the teens, Reed Walters, denied on Wednesday that racism was involved in the charges.

He said he didn't charge the white students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged. In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record.

"It is not and never has been about race," Walters said. "It is about finding justice for an innocent victim and holding people accountable for their actions."

The beating victim, Justin Barker, was knocked unconscious, his face badly swollen and bloodied, though he was able to attend a school function later that night.

Bell, 16 at the time of the attack, is the only one of the "Jena Six" to be tried so far. He was convicted on an aggravated second-degree battery count that could have sent him to prison for 15 years, but the conviction was overturned last week when a state appeals court said he should not have been tried as an adult.

Thursday's protest had been planned to coincide with Bell's sentencing, but organizers decided to press ahead even after the conviction was thrown out. Bell remains jailed while prosecutors prepare an appeal. He has been unable to meet the $90,000 bond.

"We all have family members about the age of these guys. We said it could have been one of them. We wanted to try to do something," said Angela Merrick, 36, who drove with three friends from Atlanta to protest the treatment of the teens.

Dennis Courtland Hayes, interim president and CEO of the NAACP, compared the outcry to the controversy that followed racial remarks by radio personality Don Imus.

"People are saying, `That's enough, and we're not taking it any more,'" Hayes said.

The rally was heavily promoted on black Web sites, ****s, radio and publications. State police declined to give crowd estimates, but participants at the park and the courthouse appeared to number in the thousands.

Students came from universities across the region, including historically black colleges like Morehouse College, Spelman College, Clark Atlanta University, Howard University, Hampton University and Southern University.

Tina Cheatham missed the civil rights marches at Selma, Montgomery and Little Rock, but she had no intention of missing another brush with history. The 24-year-old Georgia Southern University graduate drove all night to reach tiny Jena in central Louisiana.

"It was a good chance to be part of something historic since I wasn't around for the civil rights movement. This is kind of the 21st century version of it," she said.

In Jena, with only about 3,500 residents, some people worried about safety. Hotels were booked from as far away as Natchez, Miss., to Alexandria, La.

Red Cross officials manned first aid stations near the local courthouse and had water and snacks on hand. Portable toilets and flashing street signs to aid in traffic direction were in place. At the courthouse troopers chatted amiably with each other and with demonstrators who began showing up well before dawn.

Sharpton met with Bell on Wednesday and said he was heartened by the show of support.

"He doesn't want anything done that would disparage his name — no violence, not even a negative word," Sharpton said.

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quote:
Originally posted by rimasco:
"It is not and never has been about race," Walters said. "It is about finding justice for an innocent victim and holding people accountable for their actions."

that's about the best part of that whole article imo. The boys were suspended for their actions, the "Jena six" were way out of line for their actions and should be charged accordingly. The measure of severity should be the only question.

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that article doesn't even begin to cover what 's happened...
this thing has been percolating for a long time, and it might not be illegal to "hang nooses" in trees, but there's a lot of inconvenient facts to support charging people who do that with federal hate crimes...
that never happened.. as a matter of fact? the local district attorney actually appeared to threaten people uspet about the noose incident...

so if you wanna blame somebody for this thing getting outa hand? you can blame the DA for being an idiot.

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I gotta agree with Glass.

There should have been a hate crime charge for th nooses.

As to the beating? Yeah, those kids were outta line. But if the kid could attend a function latter that night...It's no worse than a backyard tussle IMO. Let em clean up garbage for a few weeks and then get on with life. Those nooses should have been a huge mitigating factor in the sentencing. I'm glad the sentance was thrown out.

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Who knows... maybe the media will incite a riot?They would love a story like that

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i wouldn't rim...

that crap has been on my local news for a year...

for people who don't know southern history? this story might sound flaky, but i COULD find you plenty of newspaper photographs and other well chronicled public events to show you why the noose hanging is hate crime no matter what the DA says.. i won't, cuz the pix are disgusting, and they were mostly taken as if everything going on was "normal"....

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what the the DA seems to be overlooking is that public schools receive federal funding... any institution recieveing fedearl funding is subject to federal oversight, including universities....

that's why Yale lost thier bid to keep military recruiters off their campus, and rightly so IMO...

Yale Profs Lose Military Recruiter Appeal

Posted Sep 18, 2007, 07:38 am CDT
By Debra Cassens Weiss

A federal appeals court has ruled that the federal government may deny funding to Yale Law School for barring military recruiters from campus.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cited a 2006 U.S. Supreme Court ruling upholding the Solomon Amendment, which bars certain federal funding to schools that reject military recruiters. Yale professors had argued the Supreme Court did not consider the issue of whether the statute violated the First Amendment right to academic freedom, the New York Law Journal reports.


http://www.abajournal.com/news/yale_profs_lose_military_recruiter_appeal/

should kids be prosecuted under federal hate laws? NO... but only because i'm willing to concede that they probably don't know real history..

should they be required to go to classes teaching them some real history? yes..
the fact that anybody would think of it as a "prank" should indicate just how far we HAVEN'T come in the last 40 years.

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agree glass. it should have been marked as a hate crime - but it wasn't - it was dealt with in another way ~ not the kids fault how the authorities handled it. The jena six "could" have made a national standing of the event without violence and impressed even myself by handling it in a more professional manner. but they didn't. and for that i was disgusted. the credibility of this rally imo is undermined by the lack of discipline demonstrated.

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Its a catch 22. It might not have recieved media attention unless it escalated

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look at this map.... Jena is well within it..
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there's no place in the rest of the country like the Delta... you just can't imagine how different it is..

the good news is that rising agricultural product values will be making this place very wealthy in the next ten fifteen years...

and there's alot of people making a difference one person and one day at a time...

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I know I'll get alot of flak over this but imo the Noose hanging should fall under the freedom of expression... they didn't hang anyone... I know the history of lynches in the South etc. but imo no crime was committed... We may hate what the noose stands for as much as we hate Neo-Nazi's and their hate speech but we should all defend their freedom to say or express it because the day we don't is the day we say only certain people can say or express something and not others... and if so then why bother saying to the world about our so called "freedoms"...

as for the Jena 6... they did a battery/assault and should be jailed though not long (2 years perhaps?) so they learn their lesson that violence is never tolerated ever except in the event of self defense... as for saying that he only got some bumps/scratches and the Jena 6 deserve community service only... that is kind of stupid to say because it's like advocating violence and they will not learn their lesson... they would thumb their noses at the justice system in the future much like O.J. does... also on another note there have been assault victims in the past who only had scratches/bumps but died later on as a result of the assault because it ruptured something inside that people were not aware of... not that it happened in this case but trying to show why letting the Jena 6 or anyone who commits assault off the hook with only community service is definetly not the way to go...

As a side note I dislike the so called "Rev." Al Sharpton and his opportunistic ways when a case like this gets national media attention... once the story dies out in the press you will not see him defending the Jena 6 and he will move on.... Does the "Rev" contribute to their defense fund (if there is one)? ... nah he contributes to himself with the expensive suits he wears..

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i agree about sharpton and jackson Mach...
they're here now and in the spotlight, but they're gone tomorrow, and the town still has to deal with the problems...

one of the things worth noting is that that school cut down the tree and did make attempts to deal with the situation....

IMO the DA is the one who who let everybody down...


one of the things that's not coming out is how poor the area is... if you look at a demographic map of poverty you'll see a big red splotch covering the whole Delta.....
there's a lot of generalised frustration about lack of opportunity...

as for the nooses? no flack from me, but, i think a noose is a direct threat.. no different from sending someone a dead fish or a bullet...

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or divorce papers? lol

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i am not saying hanging a noose is a good thing, but why would leaving a rope in a tree regardless of what it means be a hate crime punishable by hate crime grids? people get in a lot less trouble for much worse crimes. i bet you could be a wife beater and get less punishment than if you were to leave a noose in a tree.
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it's a long story CCM... sometime when you are on leave take a ride through the Natchez Trace and the Blues trail, check out the real Crossroads..

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some dumb chick from MIT (prolly soon to be expelled) strapped a circuit board to her chest today and went to Logan airport...

nobody is gonna question whether she should be charged....

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That is a little different imo... she had it strapped on herself and could of or did cause panic in a airport...

A noose on a tree did not have a human attached to it and didn't cause any panic or violence then let's say a Neo-Nazi skinhead music CD which expresses their views...

You have to be messed up in the head in the first place to do such things as violence. Music, Nooses, books etc. that are expressions are just excuses for society's ills. Nevertheless they should have the freedom to express themselves even if we do not like it or agree with what they are expressing. That is the foundation of this country. Freedom of thought and to express it via words or images.

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OK you guys asked, i'll answer..

but don't click here if you have a weak stomach...

and this is just a tiny sampling , i can give you hundreds..

http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/african/2000/lynching.htm

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your not showing me anything new in terms of photographs... i've seen those same exact photographs in documentaries and such over the years and im well aware of the lynching history in the South... it's still not a crime to hang a noose on a tree... one that does not have a human attached to it any more then drawing a swatiska somewhere (unless it's vandalism)....

But assaulting another human being till his face is bloodied is a crime regardless of race... and should not get a slap on the wrist... it sends the wrong message... Two wrongs (whites getting off easy in the past and trying to do the same with the Jena 6) do not ever make a right... when that happens it is then injustice and makes you no different then the whites of the past...

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it's not a crime to wear a printed circuit board on your shirt either...

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in a airport where it looks like a bomb and you do not convey to security that it isn't one then you deserve anything you get.... though I would say reduced charges of disorderly conduct or something...

but a Noose on a tree is not a hate crime by any definition of the word because no violent act was committed with THOSE particular nooses... the day you convict others for their messages that you do not agree with is the day this country will fall into the hypothetics of 1984, Farenheit 451 and similar novels.

I hate the messages of the KKK, Neo-Nazi's etc. but I will defend their right to say it as well as anyone else's expressions and thoughts i disagree with including Begeesus, Bush Jr., etc.

Why hasn't Sharpton and his opportunists cited any LA or Federal Law defining a noose on a tree as a hate crime? Because it's not and their is no such passage imo. It's no more a hate crime then burning the American flag to protest something. What the Jena 6 did do is a hate crime. It was a violent act committed on a different race due to their hatred of said race. That is a hate crime. The Noose hangers should just get suspended or expel and not anything more.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
it's not a crime to wear a printed circuit board on your shirt either...

it is now with the patriot act! i bet the patriot act was designed to be so large that it would be almost impossible to actually go through each and every page within a reasonable amount of time. im sure that was done on purpose to hide highly questionable practices and measures.
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Mach, i'm not defending the guys that beat the kid up.

but i know for a fact that hanging a noose in a tree in public school yard is a threat..
the threat is plain: sit here and we'll kill you..


as the situation stands right now, the kids bail was REMAND. that's going to be found uncostitutional if this goes federal...
he isn't even under charges right now and a writ of habeus corpus will be filed....

if this doesn't go federal we are looking at a pretty big mess....


hey CCM! glad to hear from you... glad you're OK.

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anything can be construed as a threat... i can give someone the middle finger and shout racial slurs but until i commit the violent act it is not a crime... you cannot arrest and convict someone for possible future crimes without definite proof... and a noose on a tree is not definite proof they intended to hang someone or worst...

You should watch the movie ,if you haven't already, Minority Report starring Tom Cruise and directed by Steven Spielberg that tackles the morality of jailing people before they committ a violent crime.

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i actually read the short story 30 years ago....

are you familiar with all of the details of this case?
there was alot more going on than a few nooses hanging in a tree...

i don't know how it can be construed as anything else...

as for your understanding of what assault is?
maybe this will help:

MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972
As Amended

SEC. 97-3-7. Simple assault; aggravated assault; domestic violence.

(1) A person is guilty of simple assault if he (a) attempts to cause or purposely, knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another; or (b) negligently causes bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon or other means likely to produce death or serious bodily harm; or (c) attempts by physical menace to put another in fear of imminent serious bodily harm;


yes, that's correct, (c) attempts by physical menace to put another in fear of imminent serious bodily harm;

simple assualt does NOT require anybody to be hurt...

OJ will probably be convicted of simple assault in the recent Las Vegas case based ont he tape recordings..


the town/school cut down the tree cuz they KNEW what it all represents...

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C. is very outdated... putting fear into someone is not assault... assault is physical not mental... or else we all would be criminals sometime in our life of it lol ...

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thats' the law of the land dude...

it's not outdated at all..

if you threaten somebody and make them reasonably beleive they are in danger from you? you have committed simple assault..

even pointing an unloaded gun at somebody is simple assault (at minimum)...

Definition of Assault - Texas Penal Code

§ 22.01. ASSAULT.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person:

(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;

(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or

(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.




from Blackstone:

Assault and Battery

Assault and battery. Any unlawful touching of another which is without justification or excuse. It is both a tort, Trogun v. Fruchtman, 58 Wis.2d 569, 207 N.W.2d 297, as well as a crime, Scruggs v. State, Ind.App., 317 N.E.2d 807, 809. The two crimes differ from each other in that battery requires physical contact of some sort (bodily injury or offensive touching), whereas assault is committed without physical contact. In most jurisdictions, statutes have created aggravated assaults and batteries, punishable as felonies, and worded in various ways. See Battery.

SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition


aggravated assault or assault and battery is when someone actually does hurt someone...

simple (usually misdemeanor)asault is threatening someone...

under federal guidelines? simple assault includes black eyes and injuries requiring less than two days hospital stay.. so nothing more than simple assault has occurred in this case so far, unfortunatley? the whole situation MAY be spinning out of control....

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say what you want but the Noose's were expression and not assault.. not even simple assault... was more like vandalism...

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Nooses were a threat.
You don't hang a noose in a tree in the delta without knowing EXACTLY what it means.
That threat could... and obviously DID lead those six and definitely more to believe that serious harm was on it's way.
Those six are guilty of assault... but so is the bruised chap.
He's lucky to have escaped with his life much more being only mildly damaged.

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it gets better Mach, like said earlir? i've followed this for along time..
the DA was actually asked to come to town to talk to the students as awhole, and he threatened them...

the African American student felt that the threats were directed at them...

A few of the black athletes, the stars of the football team, took the lead in resisting. The day after the nooses were hung, they reportedly organized a silent protest under the tree.

The school called an assembly and summoned the police and the district attorney. Black students sat on one side, whites on the other. District Attorney Reed Walters warned the students he could be their friend or their worst enemy. He lifted his fountain pen and said, "With one stroke of my pen, I can make your life disappear."

That evening, black students told their parents that the DA was looking right at them. Walters denies that. Billy Fowler, a member of the school board, doesn't believe it, either.


you think the DA was there to help? the whites were jubilant...

this is a long story and i'm not gonna write it all out now, but it involves guns and fires in the school buildings.. charges of theft when somebody disarmed somebody else with a shotgun... (every pickup down here has at least one gun in it) it's about as convoluted as a Grisham novel...

how the DA decided to charge the kids with attempted murder is gonna end up like the Duke LaCrosee thing... it won't stand up under scrutiny..
the kid got a black eye and "maybe" a concussion. but he walked right out of the hospital and went out that same night...

sure something happened, but it happened because the LEADERS didn't LEAD when the time came to stand up and lead...

i said before and i'll say it again, i don't want to see the kids charged with hate crimes, but for the DA to say he couldn't find a crime to charge the noose hangers with is total BULLCHIT..

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Breaking News- Another Noose Incident Near Jena
by Nathan Stubbs (excerpt)

Breaking News- Another Noose Incident Near JenaINDEPENDENT WEEKLY

The national spotlight was on the small town of Jena yesterday, where thousands of demonstrators rallied in support of six African-American teens charged with aggravated battery for beating up a white student after a series of racially-charged confrontations that started after white students hung nooses from a tree near the school. While the rally was a peaceful affair, and many locals went on national TV defending their small town and stating that the Jena 6 case was being blown out of proportion, an incident not far away in Alexandria is further inflaming racial tensions.

CNN reports that not far from Jena, police arrested two teenagers driving a red truck with nooses tied to the back who drove by a group of Jena 6 demonstrators in Alexandria. Alexandria city officials say the two teens were from the Jena area. According to CNN:

Police say the 18-year-old driver of the truck was charged with driving while intoxicated and inciting to riot and also may be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor -- the 16-year-old passenger. As police were questioning the driver, he said he had an unloaded rifle in the back, which police found. They also found a set of brass knuckles in the cup holder on the dashboard, according to the police report.

The passenger told police he and his family are in the Ku Klux Klan, the police report said. He also said he had tied the nooses and that the brass knuckles belonged to him, the report said. At least one of the nooses was made out of an extension cord, according to the police report


http://www.lanewslink.com/

like i said? this thing is beginning to spiral out of control...

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the attempts of sharpton and the naacp to circumvent the locals and persuade law enforcement through their demonstrations to back down on their duty imo should not be tolerated. I would assume it won't be long before a grand jury is asked to intervene. I would hope that the case is heard and found that the locals are in line and doing the right thing.

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they'll make it worse boo, the locals will be harsher to show they can't be bullied...

is cross burning a hate crime? cuz the cross was burned first, as a warning that the noose was next...

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"The public at large basically thinks that these cases are aberrations, and that's one reason why so much attention is paid to them," says Professor Nunn. "It's the idea that it's the redneck sheriff doing this and not the way we sort of stack the odds against black criminal defendants. We can point to a few bad apples, say, 'See, it's them,' and the rest of us feel great because we're demonstrating how we disagree with racism."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070921/ts_csm/ajena_1

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