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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Americans and Canadians seem to forget that we are the rejects of the established world civilizations...

before you get all hettup? think abut it...

we've all left established civilizations to come here...

and? we seem to "reinvent" ourselves every 20 years or so...

this deserves to be repeated

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quote:
Originally posted by retiredat49:
I'm a reject?

LOL ,yup, but not alone... [Big Grin]

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You are right Glass...just looked at my papers, and there it is in black & white...REJECT

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Personally, I'm quite proud to be a reject, in that sense.

But I'm absolutely ashamed of being part of a culture that can and wiil change every generation or so in order to make a better world, yet can't be generous enough or have enough respect to let other cultures evolve unhindered.

And it is impractical.

What we force on them becomes temporaary and becomes anathema, because it isn't their's.

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Anathema (in Greek Ανάθεμα) meaning originally something lifted up as an offering to the gods; later, with evolving meanings, it came to mean:

to be formally set apart,
banished, exiled, excommunicated or
denounced, sometimes accursed.

[Wink]

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Good word...im gonna use it on my neighbor shes off the boat from Italy and pretends to understand me....

"Looks like your squash has a case of ANATHEMA next to the brocoli-rabe patch"

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Be kind, rim, help the gal learn, not confuse her with vocabulary.....
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i saw the video a while back... horrible..

here it is *if* you want to see it..
i dont think i have to warn you that someone gets stoned to death in this video.. beware

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1177931030/Girl_Gets_Stoned_to_Death_for_Datin g_a_Man_of_Another_Religion

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

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Im kidden......shes alot older. has been here for many years and never really grasped the whole English thing...

But she doesnt seem to have a problem grasping a whole bunch of my bananna peppers without asking....

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Italian? Bananna peppers, huh?

Mix a couple of jalapenos in with a dozen or so of those and take them to her.

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LOL....They will eat anything....I take a head count on my koi pond every day. She was inquiring about my catfish one day. I was joking with her daughter telling her "she made me a little nervous"

Her daughter respondend by licking her fingers saying "ooohhhhh my god, my mutha cooks a MEAN catfish"

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Americans and Canadians seem to forget that we are the rejects of the established world civilizations...

before you get all hettup? think abut it...

we've all left established civilizations to come here...

and? we seem to "reinvent" ourselves every 20 years or so...

the "cultures" we are railing against were old before we declared independence..

ya...and is high time the reject/mutants "quarantine" the original geography.

Notice, am not saying "wipe out" or "turn sand into glass," ETC...

quarantine

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quote:
Originally posted by rimasco:
LOL....They will eat anything....I take a head count on my koi pond every day. She was inquiring about my catfish one day. I was joking with her daughter telling her "she made me a little nervous"

Her daughter respondend by licking her fingers saying "ooohhhhh my god, my mutha cooks a MEAN catfish"

send her down here to MS then Rim, i'm getting tired of corn-fed catfish, breaded in corn meal, and deep fried in corn oil...

it don't even taste like fish anymore... [Big Grin]


PS: it was the same way in NE with the released trout..

and we used corn as bait too.. [Roll Eyes]

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They were still practicing stoning in Saudi Arabia as well in the early 90's. A good friend of mine was deployed there and actually got to see 'em do it. Of course it was a bit different. The girls father walked up and cast the first ceremonial stone, if you will, then they backed up the dump truck and it was over. He also saw 'em toss a young lady off of a tower.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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send her down here to MS then Rim, i'm getting tired of corn-fed catfish, breaded in corn meal, and deep fried in corn oil...

it don't even taste like fish anymore... [Big Grin]


PS: it was the same way in NE with the released trout..

and we used corn as bait too.. [Roll Eyes] [/QB][/QUOTE]

Most of us round these part use olive-oil for all cooking....I guess its a grease-ball thang. Expensive but, once you taste it you know where the money went. Extra virgin even beter.

Im not too savy when it comes to fishing but, my neighbor was all happy that her son went out to jersey and caught a "drum fish". He said "Itza rare you catcha deesa fish ina deesa parts" He said the texture was like no other fish he had and he is teporarily in a'more.

Sorry im off topic....what can I say we drifted out to sea. I follow up with a diatribe.

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quote:
Originally posted by HILANDER:
They were still practicing stoning in Saudi Arabia as well in the early 90's. A good friend of mine was deployed there and actually got to see 'em do it. Of course it was a bit different. The girls father walked up and cast the first ceremonial stone, if you will, then they backed up the dump truck and it was over. He also saw 'em toss a young lady off of a tower.

Ummmmmm Yeah.... we should just leave them folks and their cro magnon man government alone.

When you got the father or brother out there casting the first stone....

Ill stop there....I dont want to throw stones....OOPS [Eek!]

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drum is the "carp" of the sea... i don't eat 'em...
they have catfish farms dayown hyar,
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olive oil is for sauteeing... try deepfrying in it? and you'll have a house full of smoke...

i use three times as much olive oil here at home as anything else..
the next is peanut oil..now that you can get hot, and it tastes good... cotton oil can get even hotter, but i don't use it, and never have..

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Like I was saying they'll eat anything.

"olive oil is for sauteeing... try deepfrying in it? and you'll have a house full of smoke..."

I dont use a deepfryer but when I do fry I dont let it get smokin hot

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quote:
Originally posted by turbokid:
i saw the video a while back... horrible..

here it is *if* you want to see it..
i dont think i have to warn you that someone gets stoned to death in this video.. beware

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1177931030/Girl_Gets_Stoned_to_Death_for_Datin g_a_Man_of_Another_Religion

Just watched the first half of the video....ummmmmm we dont belong there.... we dont belong anywhere near there....this seems to be their version of freedom and they dont want it any other way.

There were alot of people present... to think that her family was there as well...poor fcuking girl...

"God, If you exist? Could you please make sure this lynch-mob rots in HELL!" "A Hellfire missle will be suffice"...

Maybe he is talking to Dubya..... [Eek!]

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Seriously anyone on this board who condones this act because it is the kurds/muslims culture and that we shouldn't interfere with their culture should be stoned themselves...

Muslims/kurds and other faiths in the middle east are nothing but savages and are not civilized humans... they deserve no mercy like they gave no mercy to that girl... say what you want about christianity, jewish and other religions around the world but they do not still live in the dark ages...

I like the idea that someone said that we should give women in danger of so called "honor killing" asylum in our embassies in these countries...

I hate to say it but if we didn't have christians (and it's various forms of methodists, baptists, etc.) governing this country and let Muslims be the majority, our own women would be in danger...

I don't know what version everyone saw of this video (i won't look at it again.. unlike others I watched the whole thing so it sunk in) but this is the one I saw that was posted in another forum (metal music that i frequent):

http://www.whitelinefirm.nl/node/116718

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"Seriously anyone on this board who condones this act because it is the kurds/muslims culture and that we shouldn't interfere with their culture should be stoned themselves... "

Mach,

You seem to not be able to gather in and hold on to the idea that way of thinking is exactly the way they think of things we do normally and casually and that responding to us with that sort of violence is exactly their justification for to how to deal with things their culture condemns.

I know it isn't easy to accept that things we think nothing of, not good and not bad, are things they believe to be fundamental and naturally evil and against God's laws.

You are asking me to act in the same way as they do.

I cannot and will not be goaded into that sort of reaction, not by your exclaimation of hatred and disgust and not by your condemnation of me for not being just like you and not by any of any number of people, and not because of any kind of denunciation or threat whatever.

I will not!

"say what you want about christianity, jewish and other religions around the world but they do not still live in the dark ages... "

If you believe we are so advanced and so far above those people, then you've never watched little black children in rural Mississippi, scared and shaking in fear, drop their brand new Christmas toys and hide in a ditch because some strange white guy was driving by.

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:


"say what you want about christianity, jewish and other religions around the world but they do not still live in the dark ages... "

If you believe we are so advanced and so far above those people, then you've never watched little black children in rural Mississippi, scared and shaking in fear, drop their brand new Christmas toys and hide in a ditch because some strange white guy was driving by.

What does racism have to do with religion, culture or honor killing? ....

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hahahahaha

You just proved you have little understanding of the dregs of what too often calles itself "southern culture", where violently demonstrating hatred to becomes a requirement of "brotherhood".

Too, you posited that we (that's all of us) are not so backward as to be so intollerant of others. I provided a counter example.

(It may be racial to you, to those little black kids, it is a chance to avoid possibly becoming the victim of an honor killing and having the chance to grow up).

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Bdgee I have to agree with you on this one. The world is full of different cultures who behave in ways we don't and that's their right. We can't be the world monitor of behaviors or the judge. I'm also not too thrilled with someone spouting the goodness of Christianity and how its saving the U.S. That's a bunch of crap and I resent the implications of that too. Personally I think that whole religious righteousness is debilating. Just look how dubya is devastating the country and using his religious beliefs as justification.

However, I wouldn't easily compare the racism of some folks to the cultural norms of another.

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Most folks in Mississippi are kind and gentle.

But a tiny percentage bent on selfish evil (often in the name of some religion) can keep the masses in turmoil and fear and pack instinct can sweep up even the most generous and gentle into a vulgar display of physical violence.

There are more good things about Mississippi than bad things.

(The last several great race riots in this country (actually almost all of them, since it has only been since well into the 20th century that anyplace in the South had enough population to achieve rioting) happened in California, New York and Chicago. And don't forget it was racial rioting in New York that killed dosens of young black men who they said were resisting being drafted into the Union army during the civil war.)

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I wouldn't call the world of G.W., quite,,, Christianity... would you?
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No, not me either ....

I think he's more like an agent of the devil...a fascist devil.

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"a fascist devil"

Yikeedity yike! Is there any other kind?

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Any other kind of which, fascist or devils?

Hunanity isn't confined by political parties, Tex......

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it's been less than a hundred years since lynchings were too frequent in the south...

there are ways to end the senseless violence of honor killings and other things like that..


but Rosa Parks and Martin L. King didn't do it with a gun...

Ghandi didn't do it with a gun..

Nelson Mandella didn't do it with a gun...

i like my guns, but i know when to use them, and when to put them away...

Dubya had a real chance to make a significant difference in the mideast using the world mandate to "take" Afghanistan, and he blew it...

instead he has manged to do about as much as humanly possible to help al-queda recruit new members...
note the date on this..

Can al-Qaeda�s Lebanese Expansion Be Stopped?
By Emily Hunt
February 6, 2006

As Israelis assess the implications of Hamas�s victory in January elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council, a new threat may be developing in Lebanon. Al-Qaeda�linked terrorists have been present in Lebanon for a decade, but recent statements by Ayman al-Zawahiri and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi suggest that the dual objectives of destabilizing Arab regimes and targeting Israel proper are becoming top al-Qaeda priorities. Al-Zarqawi�linked terrorists in Lebanon have already engaged in low-level targeting of Israeli and Lebanese interests, yet several obstacles may hinder their ability to launch significant attacks in or from Lebanon.


http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2440

it's gotten worse there since then not better...

and that was before last summers "war"....

note also that al-queda was in Lebanon, but not in Iraq... where did Bush go again? ....

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Any other kind of which, fascist or devils?

Hunanity isn't confined by political parties, Tex......

not asking about humanity...am asking about da devil...lol, could be NAZI, I guess, but that's a pretty close slice on the deli-saw...

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quote:
Dubya had a real chance to make a significant difference in the mideast using the world mandate to "take" Afghanistan, and he blew it...
amen

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Bush has to be the number one man in history to lose so much support so fast, and still be alive to experience it...

the whole world (other than, literally, a handful of countries) was behind him after 9-11..

now?

his best bet is to resign so people can (finally)start to feel sorry for him... [Big Grin] NOT....

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"the whole world (other than, literally, a handful of countries) was behind him after 9-11" to go into Afganistan"

"now?"

After invading Iraq and neglecting Afganistan, the whole world (other than, literally, a handful of countries) was and is against him absolutely.

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