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i'm listening to this and it is all very interesting. i dont like how he again denied a face to face discussion with Irans leader at the un nations meeting. i fear this is only going to increase tension
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i cant help to think what if our government DOESNT want to find bin laden...the most notorious man out there cant be found? give me a break. with him still being unfound, it allows the us to continue its "war"
i say this because say we DO capture bin laden..."terror threat" in theory should drop...but i dont believe it will
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dumya doesn't want to capture Ben laden. The republican bigwigs don't want him captured.
They have read Orwell and undertand that in order to have a perpetual dictatorship, a mysteriousand ever uncaptured enemy with no specific location must be about.
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in defense of the GOP? bdgee? i think Bush has pretty much split the party...
he gave this press conference to threaten the GOP Senators for not doing what he wants with respect to article three of the Geneva convention...
and it was a serious threat...
he bascially says if they don't give him the exact wording he wants? the terrorists will go undeterred, because the profession intel community will stop interrogating prisoners...
it doesn't seem to make sense...
this press conference was very "spirited"... Bush was "irritated" to say the least...
The Rant Bush on the Constitution: "Just a goddamned piece of paper" By DOUG THOMPSON Dec 9, 2005, 06:39
.......GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."
"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
I've heard from two White House sources who claim they heard from others present in the meeting that the President of the United States called the Constitution "a goddamned piece of paper."...
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Q: Mr. President, you have said throughout the war in Iraq and building up to the war in Iraq that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Zarqawi and al-Qaida. A Senate Intelligence Committee report a few weeks ago said there was no link, no relationship, and that the CIA knew this and issued a report last fall. And yet a month ago you were still saying there was a relationship.
Why did you keep saying that? Why do you continue to say that? And do you still believe that?
BUSH: The point I was making to Ken Herman's question was that Saddam Hussein was a state sponsor of terror and that Mr. Zarqawi was in Iraq.
[[[[So hes still accusing hussein of being linked to alqueda (he cleverly describes it a a sponser of terror. yet the only terrorist organization we know of (biggest) is aLQUEDA. so he is directly linking terrorism to alqueda to hussein because sarqawi is in iraq..what a bunch of bs that was...bush is simply using semantics to still get his factless point across.]]]]
He had been wounded in Afghanistan, had come to Iraq for treatment. He had ordered the killing of a U.S. citizen in Jordan.
I never said there was an operational relationship. I was making the point that Saddam Hussein had been declared a state sponsor of terror for a reason, and therefore he was dangerous.
[[[[OT:i still believe there is government sponsered terrorism here in the USA.
so hes STILL accusing hussein of sponsering terrorism " Senate Intelligence Committee report a few weeks ago said there was no link, no relationship, and that the CIA knew this and issued a report last fall. And yet a month ago you were still saying there was a relationship."
this guy is unbelievable! wtf is going on in bushs head ?]]]]
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He doesn't feel any responsibility to the "commoners". Hell, he was born to virtually "Nazi royalty"
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trade4, Bush's top political advisor Karl Rove has a policy of dealing with weakness by addressing weakness directly with confusing statements...
Bush never said sadam ordered 911... yet? he and cheney "encouraged" that belief for well over a year...
in '02 to'04? 70% of Americans polled beleived sadam had been directly involved, and Bush never tried to correct the belief
interesting note:
Fox "news" is spending airtime trying to portray the "jocularity" of the president with the reporters...
they are showing a series of real 2-3 second clips that SERIOUSLY misrepresent the true tone of press conference..
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Fox News is filtered for presentation to the mentally defficient and indoctrinated.
It's just a house organ for what has taken to representing itself as the Republican Party. True and honorable republicans are sickened by it.
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bush is nuts for trying to change how foreign terror suspects are treated. by doing (subjective) INTERNATIONAL INTERPRETATION.
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Isn't it strange that we have gotten along fine with the Geneva Convention wordings as they were originally drafted for over 60 years and the first people to say they have any difficulty interpreting it are exactly the first people the Suppreme court said were violating it.
And since when is an international treaty, that was passed on Constitutionally and therefore is law, subject to revision by Congress?
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That has been a cry to rally the republican faithful since Nixon's years.....
But once we had newsmen with backbone and pride.
Now we have a bunch that wants to assure they get an invite to the next shin-dig at the White house.
Even halfway awake to the damage their failure to question has brought, this bunch is still going eaasy on the Administration.
They all want to be thought of as the next Crinkite, but none has the guts.
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OK... the text is now posted for the press conference...
this is the end of it:
Last question. Allen.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. It was reported earlier this week that in a meeting with conservative journalists, you said you'd seen changes in the culture, you referred to it as a Third Awakening. I wonder if you could tell us about what you meant by that, what led you to that conclusion? And do you see any contradictory evidence in the culture?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I said -- Mike, thanks. I was just speculating that the culture might be changing, and I was talking about when you're involved with making decisions of historic nature, you won't be around to see the effects of your decisions. And I said that when I work the ropelines, a lot of people come and say, Mr. President, I'm praying for you -- a lot. As a matter of fact, it seems like a lot more now than when I was working ropelines in 1994. And I asked them -- I was asking their opinion about whether or not there was a Third Awakening, I called it.
I'd just read a book on Abraham Lincoln, and his presidency was right around the time of what they called the Second Awakening, and I was curious to know whether or not these smart people felt like there was any historical parallels. I also said that I had run for office the first time to change a culture -- Herman and Hutch remember me saying, you know, the culture that said, if it feels good, do it, and, if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to helping to work change a culture in which each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in life. In other words, ushering in a responsibility era. And I reminded people that responsibility means if you're a father, love your child; if you're corporate America, be honest with the taxpayers; if you're a citizen of this country, love your neighbor.
And so I was wondering out loud with them. It seems like to me that something is happening in the religious life of America. But I'm not a very good focus group, either. I'm encapsulated here. But I'm able to see a lot of people, and from my perspective, people are coming to say, I'm praying for you. And it's an uplifting part of being the President; it inspires me. And I'm grateful that a fellow citizen would say a prayer for me and Laura.
Anyway, thank you all very much.
Third Awakening? Abraham Lincoln?
i find it interesting that Dubya seems to be equating himself with "Honest Abe"...
amazing...
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This is a guy that was tossed out of every school or other organization, that he ever was in and that wasn't bought and paid for, for failure to perform, and he has the gall to say he can teach people how to think and live?
Actually neither dimwit nor egomaniac is anywhere close to the real depths that lives.
Why, can you explain, supposedly mentally capable parents with mucho dinero raise their offspring to be such self centered ass-holes?
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An awkening? Well I guess when you have came off the bottle and have dryed out and are looking at the world without your normal alcohal haze you may think there has been an awakening.
I look at the world and feel it is terrible where this facsist is taking us
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In other words, ushering in a responsibility era.
yep the responsiblity era:
"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
hah!
other quotes from Bush: George W. Bush:
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.
We must all hear the universal call to like your neighbor just like you like to be liked yourself.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: OK... the text is now posted for the press conference...
this is the end of it:
Last question. Allen.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. It was reported earlier this week that in a meeting with conservative journalists, you said you'd seen changes in the culture, you referred to it as a Third Awakening. I wonder if you could tell us about what you meant by that, what led you to that conclusion? And do you see any contradictory evidence in the culture?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I said -- Mike, thanks. I was just speculating that the culture might be changing, and I was talking about when you're involved with making decisions of historic nature, you won't be around to see the effects of your decisions. And I said that when I work the ropelines, a lot of people come and say, Mr. President, I'm praying for you -- a lot. As a matter of fact, it seems like a lot more now than when I was working ropelines in 1994. And I asked them -- I was asking their opinion about whether or not there was a Third Awakening, I called it.
I'd just read a book on Abraham Lincoln, and his presidency was right around the time of what they called the Second Awakening, and I was curious to know whether or not these smart people felt like there was any historical parallels. I also said that I had run for office the first time to change a culture -- Herman and Hutch remember me saying, you know, the culture that said, if it feels good, do it, and, if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to helping to work change a culture in which each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in life. In other words, ushering in a responsibility era. And I reminded people that responsibility means if you're a father, love your child; if you're corporate America, be honest with the taxpayers; if you're a citizen of this country, love your neighbor.
And so I was wondering out loud with them. It seems like to me that something is happening in the religious life of America. But I'm not a very good focus group, either. I'm encapsulated here. But I'm able to see a lot of people, and from my perspective, people are coming to say, I'm praying for you. And it's an uplifting part of being the President; it inspires me. And I'm grateful that a fellow citizen would say a prayer for me and Laura.
Anyway, thank you all very much.
Third Awakening? Abraham Lincoln?
i find it interesting that Dubya seems to be equating himself with "Honest Abe"...
amazing...
Glass, you are completely missing what the man is saying.. He's not saying he is Abe.. Just referencing the fact that there is an abrupt change coming. I actually think he's wrong about there being a third awakening of the kind he described. I don't think we are seeing the morality revolution... Quite the opposite. But he is right, his decisions will be felt long after he is gone.
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I'd just read a book on Abraham Lincoln, and his presidency was right around the time of what they called the Second Awakening, and I was curious to know whether or not these smart people felt like there was any historical parallels. I also said that
right here he says it: I had run for office the first time to change a culture -- Herman and Hutch remember me saying, you know,
the culture that said, if it feels good, do it, and, if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to helping to work change a culture in which each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in life.
he IS saying he ran as an agent of change, and he DOES think he's chosen for this....
dubya was the ultimate frat boy.. if it feels good do it? LOL...
he also never said sadam was behind 911 too right?
he's trying to say clinton was amoral and he isn't
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: He thinks he is a god given savior of the world, when in fact, he is an idiot.
A very arrogant and dangerous idiot.
The same could be said of you, my dear bdgee.
Thanks for voicing your always self centered and arrogant opinion so we would not have to guess that you love you.
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